uh this is in accordance with the open public meeting Act of the state of New Jersey adequate notice of this meeting of the Franklin Township environmental commission was made by posting on the Bolton board in the municipal building posting on the township website and electronically transmitted to the
officially decimated newspapers including that indicating that this meeting would be take take place in person at 7:00 p.m. at the municipal building on March 3rd second third third Y what the third okay that's
good then we're going to do roll call which I have over here I should get a new piece first yes first I did that on purpose um Walter Andrews Chase yeah easy yeah uh St yeah
here here Maria is not here no she just got here she behind me okay me I'm here T's here Ed pnik is not here yeah he called me at 6:30 and he said he wasn't
coming we got everybody accept that okay um report from the environment I don't have a lot to say but I did want to bring everybody up to date on one one item uh there's going to be a planning I wrote notice that the
planning board is going to hold a public meeting on March 19th 7:30 at the Board of Education building on Route 27th the meeting is prefer to considered the proposal by Onyx to construct a warehouse spot on Old new Bruni Road and
New brunick Road Project has aroused the suet run Community to oppose the warehouse which is across new brunwick road from the re entrance there were this is the one there were two Buckeye pipelines carrying Diesel and gasoline
through the site the applicant has moved uh the build in is re resubmission they've moved the building from 20 ft close to the pipeline to 48 ft but the requirement is 100 ft Buckeye in the past has indicated displeasure with the
proposal and what I heard Mark is that um this new osal requires 3 ft of top soil on top of where they are that means if the pipeline has to get repair they got to dig down an extra 3
fet which means under all the all the RS they have to put Shoring and walls inside the the trenches they don't want to do that besides that I looked at it and I mentioned to the uh Council when I made a statement that if one of those pipeline should leak we'd have a real
environmental disaster yes so can I bring you up to date on something that happened to our neighbors right across the river in Bucks County sure friend of mine is president of the fire company there they have a pipeline at Sun Oil Company Enterprise risk Energy Transfer
Partners is the um pipeline they have had a major leak of aviation fuel ah they are buying up people's homes right now in Upper Makefield Township by and my friend Bart who is at every
meeting at Town Hall he said they're terrible Partners they're not working well with the community so it's made me very very uncomfortable about in general families with small children they're well and aviation fuel is even worse
it's really very high octane yeah so very flammable yeah bu ey also said said Energy Transfer Partners yeah jet fuel or prople or fuel no it's jet fuel on its way to New York airport
it should not have high flammability well it's high [Music] diesel yeah yeah really yeah the Mark told me that there were pipelines running all through Franklin
Township I said yeah but everybody in Franklin knows about or remembers Edison when the pipeline exploded and building caught fire and um that a little ago but I remember it and um so I I had called
Washington and I called Atlanta and that's when I realized that my map only showed one pipeline but because they cut the resolution at a certain level when I got to Georgia he said oh I can go four more levels down there were two pipelines there he opened up the the the
the trace got you know showed two two pip Lins but um that application is also um in trouble because there's no way to get a truck in there explicit comment from some of the planning board on that yeah the the road
um old New Brunswick Road part of it is a private road and you need an easement to bring an 18wheeler on that and they don't have an easement at least they didn't at that time and the Brunswick Road I think has a weight limit on it does so there's no way to bring bring a
tractor trailer in there and 6 months ago Paul yes um and I wish I had taken a picture of this a truck came up from Elizabeth Avenue with the shopping little shopping center on the right hand side and I was going to shop right and I
I'm going in the opposite dire direction of the truck he pulled in but he couldn't make the turn and he was there on his phone whatever he was doing but he just couldn't make the turn into there and I'm I'm really annoyed with myself that I didn't take
I've heard that line during the hearings yeah what what Mark said in the TRC Mark said this one of the worst application he'd ever seen there's nothing you can really do with that that plot of land it's a small property small property but the residents of um of
Somerset run expect to gather like Canal Walk did for the B9 their up arms and so so I just want to bring that to everybody's attention that's my that's my remk I think a denial of this one
will stick the B9 they'll probably win in cour that's that's what I'm going to discuss on the 14th and Canal Walk I spoke to Howard Cohen who's our attorney he's he's the attorney that's the
HOA sew has her own attorney but uh Howard's been telling us from the beginning that um it's time of application is one of the major factors there also and so see the still the judge has
not decided yet last I heard so that that one's been the court and they're waiting but um so um that's that completes my report we expanded I'm glad really it bordens the whole thing gets
more more things going so the next one would be approval of the minutes from last meeting I move for approval February 24th minut second second okay any discussions one word I have on the last
page one two third fourth paragraph where s for us oh yeah right the last word is Treno you got an extra I in there oh got it all [Music]
right probably said it done okay so my comment refers to the discussion the last paragraph uh when I was uh suggesting that we um bring up a list of
landscaping businesses that use electri Le blowers I made specific reference to list on uh sustainable Princeton okay I didn't uh disclose specific website but by saying it's sustainable Princeton I meant very
specific placed on that website I send it today to Tara and Ted so I mean can show it but it is it is brand agnostic it's just focused on you know
whoever uh complies uh can uh be posted be posted yeah so so and then I'm seeing here and we did have a conversation that there is a um New Jersey registry of sustainable businesses and the website
is down well sustainable Princeton website is not down so just think that we should really uh do something to have have it listed at least on our
website environmental commission website but but specifically for uh the comment uh to the minutes I did make specific relation to to
Su so I think that it should be a okay got it why you mention that minute you mentioned about the uh the the kids with tourist with they haven't gotten a lot of progress they've been talking to Deb and Deb doesn't seem to that's I don't think you think the problems with the
insurance agency not them oh I might be both I don't know yeah cuz I did talk to the insurance agent about 10 days ago and she said working on but let me go back to her and see where the real is because we we we do have people lined up ready to start and uh if they get the approval for they need the insurance
anyway of course they do you know um what that's going to do is raise their the cost Factor right but it it needs to be done it's it's for that protection now I wasn't at the last me meeting so I'm not going to vote but I noticed in the email from between Arie and Tara you
talked about getting information on Exxon that had had to do with a resolution oh yes we got it yeah what resolution was that I don't it was um oh my gosh the climate the New Jersey climate super fund y did that get
forward yes yep so it hasn't passed yet no not yet but it's been updated for forwarded okay so we're waiting for the council yes that's hoping that's what it was that's what I commented said I didn't remember really going through that and it was yeah okay thank you good
okay so I think that completes the review of the minutes with the corrections all in favor now accepting all right okay pass okay um public comment motion to open the floor to
public comment so move second second so move okay anybody want to make a comment yeah can you just repeat when the planning board meeting is going to be um should be the 19th March 19th 7:30 at
the Board of Education building over on Route 27 okay um and is there a way is there a way we can find the site plans online for that they're on the Franklin Township website if you go under committees and commissions and then you
go to planning board right under the planning board drop down there's a page called application materials and that'll have all the pending applications for the planning board if you're looking for zoning board same thing go to zoning board application materials this what is
NYX Onyx okay o okay that's all thank you anybody else yes um I'm suas and I wanted to just bring up I brought it up last year but I brought it up a little
bit too late with the uh save the mo until Earth Day the idea of having signs on The Lawns is I really feel like it's a little nerve-wracking to let your lawn grow when you have to answer to your neighborhood so I really wanted do it we did it um and I think more people will
do it if they have signs um I did a little research on it and I would be willing to take the lead on it if you were into it I um kind of did an estimate for about 50 or 60 signs okay to see and it would cost about I I looked at Vista Print there are a lot of
places that will do this but I just looked at this one5 to $6 a sign um I know I know that there are budget restraints or whatever I had a couple of IDE like maybe getting a local sponsor um I think that somebody might do that
also thought that um Jen has mentioned that the uh high school has an environmental Club they would like to do a fundraiser or get involved somehow on that I also think if there's no way to pay for it I think residents would pay5 to $6 doar a
sign I would think so too it's the payment getting those do we have to go through our contractor we have to go through our our um printing bid but the price is probably very similar to it's probably a little less than that or similar but we do have printers we can
use the budget the um budget meeting date is the first one I believe is March 18th I want to say be for April like two months from now right so our budget's not in place that's the problem but how much do we have in our current budget that we haven't
spent uh that I don't know at the top of my head I'll have to look talking about spending this money now yes they didn't exhaust it no I think there's still some money I do to yeah yeah I'll have to look and see exactly I'll check with Mark hey yeah let see how much is left and can we because it's not part of the
budget cycle can we buy from somebody else with those funds that have already been approved uh no no we have to use our printing cont and how much lead time do they need uh usually a fair amount of lead time to be honest usually all right
so if instead we raise the money we don't have to go through the was red through that red tape right um I'm trying to think so if we were to raise the money and the money was to come to the township say for example we would have to go through the red tape if the
if it was just like the signs themselves were donated like not funds but the actual like materials I think that's a different story I think all right so you don't have to be procured completely independent independently you guys want to put the work in to do
that be happy to make a small donation myself to help offset some of the cost I take the lead on that okay I suggested that it could be a two-way sign on one side would be uh save the mo right and on the other one would be leave the
leaves so that you can it twice a year yeah that's a good idea and see that was a great idea maybe we could put the Franklin environmental Commission logo in the bottom left-and corner or something yeah I know we'd have to move quickly on this yeah for the environmental Comm website on one side
and the logo on the other okay if you guys are willing to take the lead on this I I'll make a motion that we give you our blessing to do that including our name and logo and that we do what we can individually to help you and
encourage you to find the funds to offset but I'll talk to you later I'll make a pledge okay toward that and maybe other people could step up and do the same how many would we order I wasn't sure what number to start how many people participated last year do
you remember they'll be good for years to come right yeah 40 I I estimated 50 to 60 um and I think like more people will do this this year than did yes I do too why don't we see
how much money we end up with for the next year we can make official purchase so maybe 50 would be enough for now yeah okay and I'll do the doublesided I think that's great I send you I'll send you the highest image of our logo
okay excellent well so I think I better make that motion yeah because we're going to endorse it with punting the logo on we need to have a motion I move that we support Jenny and I'm sorry I forget s um them taking the lead on Save the moil Earth a signage um up to 50
units using our logo and our name to be distributed in the community to people who are actually part of the program um with our gratitude second [Music] favor thank you thank
you that's where the community working with us that's exactly the example we're looking for we have two volunteers now it can be done yes okay um so then we make a motion to close the public comment
unless Bill he I I feel I KN the no the no was coming okay any the no was second okay all in favor I okay um is there any correspondence from anybody
I don't have any correspond no okay s PL so the only site plan review we have for tonight is um Devon developers this is their third resubmission I put the email up on the screen if you need to reference it uh
I'm going to put the property up here just so you know so this is a property we're talking about it's on Route 27 something's up with the internet here tonight is anyone else having a pro you are I cannot like the uh this is what I keep getting for the subdivision plans
but okay well if you want to talk about it Paul I've been reading this this the third time but um it is they planning Eight houses uh the ninth lot would be for the storm water basin and the 10 lot
would be empty and uh the first and second times we looked at this one I knew that they were taking down 26 trees but I couldn't find that they were putting any in they are I found now this is now the second revision they're
planting 140 trees which is what they need and it's on page six of one of the things it has the list of all the all the trees got it um I think they're all trees but you know more of that Latin than I do yeah but there's I recognize Magnolia and Oak
and a couple some Maples red red red maple 140 trees that's that's the requirement based on the 26 that they're removing based on the sizes there's a a chart that gives the sizes and then they come you know that they need 140 trees
and just what happens they're planting exactly 140 trees which is the deficit because they're they're you know taking down 26 trees but some are bigger and such and when we had said last time is that they should put some around that
vacant lot and some on the border with the other properties and it look like address again it's on Route 27 uh Bunker Hill Road is this Bunker Hill Hill yeah 11 exactly yeah that's the the lot vacant
law yeah that's it should remain vacant it's going to look like the one next door kind Circle and you know that kind I just want to see your last review just to oxis not a place where people 10324 this is your I just want to look
at your most recent review prior to this yeah originally yeah we had basically said that more of the 97 required trees be planted on site instead of the monetary contribution specifically around along the northern and western
property me to they actually listen to us was there well long I never found it native and pollinator plants yeah for storm water runoff so you're saying Paul in your review they've addressed these two comments well they did the one about the number of trees and okay yeah the map shows now there's a map that shows
where all the tree placements are got it the only thing I would left I think to recommend we don't have enforcement but if they're building nice luxury homes why not have them with solar on the roof there would the the people might
like that and saves a little bit and enhances the value of the house yeah and it's easy to do when the house is just being built and they get supp from the state plus it it makes them really think about whether they missed something in the design of the roof well most of
these are planted some things here and there but when when you have to put Sol then you you yeah right yeah and you want to make sure it orients you get it correct direction trees are going to be small enough for the first few years that they're not going to overshadow the
houses yeah give them 10 years then I'll I won't be here then right so so speaking of that the trees that they're proposing um do they do they grow tall I don't know
well red Maples they because when you want to tell them to put solar the trees that are they shouldn't be growing magnas don't grow real high yeah so and Oaks do but
you know but some of them a good number over on the on that vacant plot because I said there's 10 plots Eight houses the Basin and then a vacon area and it looks like they have a couple rows in the vacant area which they I didn't remember
seeing that in the last one so they also did a great deal of improvement I think to the storm War the management part because that goes on for three sets over 100 pages and I don't remember that being there before she good for St or
maybe it wasn't extensive but I think the TRC did a very detailed review good and um maybe now they'll get it you know perfect well since you were mentioning trees yes um we had a discussion about at the
shade tree committee committee meeting last Thursday as you know we got the price of a tree raised from $30 to $300 and it says in the ordinance that's supposed to be reviewed every year from what we can tell last time it was
reviewed was in 2023 um and so we're putting it you know maybe it was done in 2024 even if it was it still needs to be done in 2025 um so we are um I believe there's been a um communication sent to the
appropriate people in the Township to make sure that the engineering uh department is appropriately reviewing the cost of trees so if they need to change the ordinance or not we we might see a a little up uptick in in the quest could be up could be down you never know
now we do know that the trees on Hamilton Street cost about $1,000 but I don't think they're going to go for $1,000 yeah more mature they were bigger well even if they just put in across the living rise it's still going to be 20 20
$25 more 20 bucks more you know labor goes up labor goes up so with all this tree planting there's not going to be any any of the trees roots are not going to interfere with any that's why so many on
this vacant area I think some you know like each house has a tree and that kind of thing but seem or anything away from the houses so so that's that's all I had was
thought about was adding solar and the other suggestion if you're going to do fancy houses is put each garage have an EV charger wouldn't be so terrible be Char be charger ready put be charger ready yeah that's yeah good just
put the fat plug yeah yeah the dryer plug it's a lot easier to do when you're building a house from scratch than it is to retrofit that we ensure the can handle it the whole the whole business is done this is the time to do
it I've been saying this over and over again I know I know but you know maybe a Time Has Come you know and maybe we build that into our green questionnaire yeah yeah yeah well there was stuff about solar and the EV was only on the
commercial side but on the res you didn't have too many applications related to Res no it this is multi-unit dwelling then they have rules but this was individual house eight eight houses eight individual put the put the thing
back up there the picture show you what it looks like see the one here with the cuac and the houses around it same thing over there you can it's going to be on the on on the houses there houses will be up off the screen of this picture up
up by the dirt road both sides of well you can see the existing house there at the lower left M so taking down something they're taking there was a a house in a garage up to taking down it's not all on both sides
of that what do you call dirt road yeah I think so south and north right so for there for here right yeah I wish I could open the subdivision plans but there's something happening in the with the internet here like making it very wait wait wait wait here right here this is
the application application not the plan division to do 10 10 lots of which eight will be single failing homes and then one is the storm water basin and one an open space c a second that's got a lot of
that's they I think lot is that 40 that's a lot of space 44 that's a full acre M speaking of the recommendation for the EV plug um I think we better be specific
you don't mind I don't mind I would say um 32 amp minimum which requires 40 ERS I mean they may not even have thought of that but it's it's an added feature Builder can normally I would say 40 m but I don't want to stress them out too
much right because if it's if they can do it within the existing design of the panel it yeah yeah and the2 is and and they're going to charge overnight anyway they don't they don't need a fast charger most of the people will charge overnight
overnight it you can just plug in to your existing you still need 220 right for a full electric car it would take several nights my car goes overnight on a on a 220 yeah but you need to charge only to
replenish would you drive yeah so so if you don't drive too much 110 would be enough even if you drive occasionally a lot you know one day you stay at home and can anyway anyway so that's that's
the only only uh building plan we have that's it for tonight yeah so awesome we're up to uh new buses skip the stuff voluntary program talk about yes we talked about this a
little bit at the last meeting um and everyone seemed to be interested in doing it so yeah so I kept it on I I reached out to Montgomery because they were doing this gift stuff and then I said how do you do enforcement well after a lot of back and
forth we decided it's not really a matter of having an ordinance um one of their members who spends a lot of time in California with the daughter they have an ordinance out there but nobody does it it's really a matter of educ so they've just taken it upon themselves
to educate the businesses in town which I think is a good idea they have developed they have a youth member who developed artwork so I ask them if we could maybe use their artwork you know if we could build a little flyer with a symbol that's recognizable and we put it
on our website and we just work on the education side and we don't have to worry about the health department or born lock girl we just work with the chamber and and The Business so um as soon as I get here back from Kathy Lynch at Montgomery about the artwork I'll bring it to the next
meeting and maybe we can go that route something that they will print and they can put it on the front as a some sort of certification yeah and it could be just like even a big logo that you know we've like lead certification so you put
something right and we're working to save the planet you know if you need these please ask well see I I mentioned at the meeting last time uh Jersey Mike's over the new one over not new now they don't offer you but they have a
bowl with the minim if you want one you take one if you don't need it you don't take it and that seems to be and there is a bill in Trenton yeah slowly making its way but started this fall I think it's Bob Smith it's one of his so it might be that at least we get things
going like the plastic bag band you know and municipalities had to do it and then eventually it's they did so I'll share with everybody as soon as I get anything from her I'll just email it out so everybody can have a chance to look at it we just copy exactly what they're doing I'll find out what they telling
their businesses [Music] and sorry when we reach out to these businesses I mean I learned when I was working with an environmental non-for-profit recycling real initial recycling you know paper uh cans and
glasses and plastic it did didn't really take off until there was a market for it so when we're talking to businesses we got to talk to them about their bottom line right they're saving money yeah they're saving money I mean they maybe won't care about saving the planet how
will it Ben benefit their bottom line something action H cost of inaction yes oh there you go that's good that's a good kind of phrase cost of inaction inaction cost stay tuned but well they may be afraid of alien 18 customers because
customers have some expectations and you know you could put in the newspaper that you know Franklin's starting this program look for this sticker in the window of the business that you frequent be a joint press release from the environmental commissioner and the
Chamber to campaign yeah I was at Costco yesterday and they've got these little things when you press a button in the the spoon comes down or the fork they have those on the park on the turnpike also in the in you know in the rest stops so they're not saying they're not
that you know it doesn't go with everybody if you don't want you don't Hampton in also has that set [Music] up scam cleanup arold I have that on there Stan I wasn't
sure if you had anything to share I don't know who's more upset about that me or Stan so um what you didn't discuss him before um so um we have a registration um on ower
right partnership website um and uh I asked Jenny we have also proposed uh um text for um press release um um if you get a chance uh it
is a little bit lengthy and and Jenny proposed the the paragraph number four of a meting which I agreed because we want to be rather brief and um to the point that announcing uh the stream
clean up why is it important so I think that one um I have also QR code MH um which is convenient and uh yeah um I think we can just uh release
it so let's go through the steps of what releasing it is okay and uh I made U sorry one more change um in that article proposed text it said that it is always mile run it's not always mile run uh we
are trying to rotate and uh whichever stream and has to be public area of course but so far we have only two we have CES run and and my run um doesn't mean that we are not open to anything
else uh so so that is the change so how do you say now we can release it we have to talk about where where how is this done so we want Tara to please speak with the township website people to put this on the calendar right yes maybe also put the
article if they can in you know some to read more about stream cleanups click here kind of thing with Jenny's article so make sure Tara has the right version yeah I need the right article the right version I can work on getting an email out with several topics this being one of them so I can do that do you want me
to send it to Bill and to to tap into or you going to do that be careful since I'm I can do it okay you send it to the two papers okay okay tar will take care of the township I'll get it as part of an email once we get a few other topics
though okay okay is there any place else we want to be sending this obviously L ritton will do some they have their own but but we won't to promote it through our channels because this is our yes the Environmental Group in Canal
Walk posted it to the entire Community there's an environmental group there yes and and David out do you want do you want to send it to Rutter's prep I mean they're so close and they're always looking for service hours do we have a contact person at prep in the
well I have teacher I don't I'm sure someone does though sure we anybody here have a contact in the admin at prep well I have contact to a teacher over there who I communicated with few years ago when we were doing topa cleanup okay
perfect maybe I think end it there gone I think but but they have a fresh crop coming yeah yeah maybe we could get some some there how about scouting groups yes I uh already end
notice um if any of you have contacts you can do this give me the name I will it will click uh two and and I sent it to councilman Vella not that he responded
but I sent it to him um I don't think he's involved in the The Scouting as much as he used to but he's still councilman yes no that's good it's good you said yeah uh
farno farno his last name or do do you know the names of those guys which guys from the scouts no I do not no okay fine but I did based on the contacts that I developed previously I send it to I and if they get them and they're no
longer the leaders they can pass them on to whoever took their place hopefully yeah so yeah um and every time we have stream clean up we try to get those contact information and put them into our
mailing list right so when it will be circulated to our mailing list they should be on notice anyway anything else I saw that you said about the parking stand did you get the approval from I I noticed that and I tell you
what um it this text was just copied from previous years you know um they are not too friendly the church um and last time which was 2 years ago I
noticed that they have trucks CU they the tracked trailers in the parking lot that's been there for a couple years and I don't know whether it's even allow what they do but anyway um I will um approach them and I'll put them
into spot ESS that's the same one we've done before then I remember the trucks know those people who run the church are either ukrainians or belarusan I don't remember I don't think that the Ukrainian one is
on there mostly hungarians in that yeah no the St Peters yeah they used to be mostly hungarians they're not anymore Russian maybe not exactly Russian that's why I'm thinking it's more Ukraine well because they have the big church on Davidson and
Eastern Avenue that's the headquarters for nor one that's true yeah and they had a cemetery behind that that's it's called bantine Church Catholic yeah cathol isn't te rights but allegiance to
the pope so the lady her name is Olga so you're going to get the permission from her right okay they don't respond the next one is a climate
mayor's program is that you that is me yes kind of so got an email from mayor Kramer and he said that um many mayors were asked to sign up for this program and that he signed up for it it's called climate Mayors um so I have been kind of like
looking through it to see what it is and it basically looks like you sign up and you can log initiatives that you do it's we're already doing many of these initiatives and then it's it's basically 750 Mayors across the country have
already committed to um kind of lead on issues related to climate change in their communities uh and the purpose is to help build political will for federal and Global Climate action and learn best practices from fellow Mayors um so basically so we're now in
part of this we're part of this now um and so yes so basically by signing on you indicate that you're pursuing actions to achieve an emissions reduction Target through one developing a community
Greenhouse grass inventory two setting near and long-term targets to reduce emissions and three developing a climate action plan aligned with the city's targets so yes so we're part of that now I have to kind of go through and figure out
exactly I tried to log in with what was provided I'm not really able to get in at this point so I have to kind of figure out how this works this would be good to put in our email blast to our list that we're now part of the plan there yes it really gives some more backing it's not just us
it's yes so we are in it.org y so I'll will keep you posted as we kind of move through that you think it's mainly in the blue States and not in the red states red States was that could be I
thought it was Global um it said United States Mayors yeah United States mayors 350 member cities across the country upholding the par is your mayor a member okay so there's a search button here you
can search so these are all different places that are signed up one in the state of Wyoming I love it and then in South Dakota or North Dakota Pro there are no cities in the state of bom well there are that's not true I can work on one
when I'm out yeah work on Jackson yeah there's less people in Wyoming than Somerset County and middle City combined More Cows than there are people in Wyoming they they have an there's a coalition along to
Mississippi to well this Jersey New York I just want to see ifne Maro is Branch went School South Orange Village okay Westfield North Brunswick okay Ma East
Brunswick andon Princeton none in Somerset County we would be the first we are the first okay so that's good we can s an example with the largest one in Somerset County okay got lots of green Sports in
is it middle SEO okay looks like Union Fanwood up here you mean West that's all Union this is white [Music] PL yeah like around
78 you did South Orange wests New York City's in there South Orange Township roommates okay Mar who is the county executive
yeah Westfield Elizabeth good for Elizabeth cus hope they do [Music] something so just so you know so we're part of that now so I will kind of keep an eye on it and see how you know how he
implements it but yeah give was another another point of visibility M okay and then the we're at the end of of new business with the usual line of Hot Topics yes Mar where are we I have to
report from the education committee so reports didn't the agenda oh I must take them off sorry I will add them back sure go ahead go ahead okay so we met on Thursday last Thursday and um we
discuss a couple of of topics and we make a couple of decisions it was uh elen uh e and um we are planning to attend the steam family day at Elizabeth School on April 24th also the green Fair on mether at
the high school um the Sustainable New Jersey and PSA grant for schools that we can um that Tara send us an email to communicate with schools we already created a letter and um um we're going to send that letter and they both
approve it and then um the p ps bill that's the next topic is increasing by June 25th and we mentioned that it's a great opportunity to make an education campaign about clean energy
options in cons and and also efficiency practices to reduce consumption so um we are uh working on an article the three of us uh to mention those options for the community and you know you know to send
them to our web page that's specific to that because of our PSC and work right yes we can put it on there once you have it developed and everything but even in your letter send people there cu the page already exists y absolutely so that'd be a good piece of info to
include I'll send you the link Maria so you have it thank you and then uh we want uh from the committee to know um more clarity on the tasks that we need to do for um as an education committee for sustainable JC um because I know we
have their projects but we we want to know which are which are we get the most points and then number six was helping stand with the dissemination of the stream cleanup even he organizes so you have to let us know what you need from us before during and after yeah we're
not mind readers and for for the fall we are planning okay the the article on uh psng we're planning to uh have it done by by April May because the increase starts in June
which is 17% now for the fall uh Ellen is already looking at her notes and um we are organizing a workshop in the fall about compost right it could be compost I was I was thinking you know give people a broad view of what they can do
how can how they can change their habits where they live that will positively impact you know the environment but compost is close to my heart okay so uh and that completes our report smelly we have we have work to do
nothing like the smell of fresh also we weren't here Robin to hear this but Maria at the last meeting who changed from your committee to go over to Communications Stan Stan okay per you're aware okay great and speaking of the stream cleanup uh I will send you the
communication if you can promulgate it to the of Comm right and uh who else are you in touch with the youth center I can again
yeah I will definitely give it to my daughter she's in charge of the green Club environmental Club at high school so then oh Strong Jeans a that's great unic corn didn't fall far
from the tree yeah well wait for this next next week will be a exam for the the chemistry Olympiad and I'm pushing my daughter to do chemistry olymp oh wow but I digress um Good Luck
um are you done yeah you put Chamber of Commerce yes because the last point was um the the workshop that we're planning I was just sharing with you my references and now I'm going to go through and the date you mentioned uh the one right we're going to bring the stuff the
table clo is that April 24th at school or was that early yes April APR 24th May 3rd too may may Saturday is green April 24th is Elizabeth Aven is Thursday that's Elizabeth Avenue on the
24th yes and where's May 3rd uh the high school U we the Ste s SD e family day at elol and we tocim that's the science Stu or steam steam Ste cuz they put Arts
I'll bring you you want the game also and the um with the dice or whatever we have the Night Lights too probably the nightl because it's an hour and a half and maybe the K it's Elementary School it might be engaging yeah you can but if
it's too much it's okay what time is it from 6:00 to 7:30 that's which one is that that's May 3rd no no that's April 24th oh 6 6 to 73 Thursday Thursday mhm April
24th my calendar to March yet but I I do have a whole bunch of those um nightlights so we you can give those out yeah absolutely Y and for your Energy savings topic um I
know we've talked about wanting to do an energy education event in general where we talked about energy aggregation Community he mentioned that I bring that to to them solar and the psse and G savings I think Ed told us that the township was going to go out to bid in
the spring to see what energy prices look like so maybe by the time that has some success that'd be the perfect timing to roll it into an education thing so we can let people know because they all voted on that it was
you know question so it's good to follow still lingering and still of the record um I don't know how many of you are in that app neighbor oh you mention here and I I I read things people post constantly oh my
God yeah but they post something about the increase in energy in their energy bill and I I think I yes it was last week and uh they were commenting how from five and they were trying to figure out if it was the delivery or the infrastructure
or or there was a a problem with their system so just which organization is going to have the webinar on it isn't it actually leak of convers conservation of orders about yes elaborating on what why yes the lcv
is having a t sent that around to us right right and I registered yeah I did too when is it uh the 20th 20th of this month this month 20th 20th yes what the psng
program what is that for or for schools is sustainable Jersey and and and psng they want students uh to Monitor and um become leaders in their school uh measuring Energy Efficiency so we're
sending that to the school in Franklin M wonder how they're going to do that they must have a guide book or instructions yes and they have to go to EMP power.org Wonder Empower something remember okay there any yeah I have a
few Hot Topic things I want to ask I think it was brought up last meeting and I'm sorry I wasn't here for it I am very interested in this Dark Skies thing oh yeah Dark Skies has sample ordinances and we have Lighting in three
different places in the township but we don't have an overall lighting ordinance but what we do have is outdoor lighting we have which is pretty
elaborate we have other two I don't have it right here I'm sorry I didn't print that page um and I think I'm going to take the time to read their model ordinance and compare it to what we already have on
the books and see how different it is um I think it's something that would be good to do some Community Education around so people know when they're choosing outdoor light fixtures for their home as well as whatever the municipality does it all has a very real
effect not only on animals but on our health so I think I'll put a blurb if everybody's okay in the upcoming email blast directing people to the dark sky website which is very interesting maybe even a link to the an webinar which was
really helpful and just start getting people interested this came to my attention two years ago when a friend of mine who's a Franklin resident said why aren't we doing more about Dark Skies so there are people out there not just us nerds who who do care about this and I
think it's worth doing some investigation and see how difficult it would be but um I know some of you watch the anj webinar um and I read your comment about the police and the concerns about but they they have researched this and if you watch the
webinar they talk about the um safety um professionals and yeah what what they see and how this can work so um more to come on that but I'm going to I'm going to do some research on it when it they find increased rates of cancer
with uncontrolled light I mean it's it's not just the birds and the bees so it got my attention if I remember right the outdoor ordering requires all the buildings that we look at to have full cut off fixtures which puts the light
downwards and non upward that's in that's in the ordinance I think right and people in their yards aren't doing that we got light going yeah and even uh Home Depot and those stores they sell flood lights that
are non-c compliant but they are legal so if anybody comes across any other material send it my way and I'll just add it to my research um halogenated gases is something I brought up about a year ago
there was some webinar where record where they mentioned that the two places in the state with the highest amount of uncontrolled halogenated gases were piscata away in Franklin Township m why we have in the state in the state so
I I I emailed which Franklin Township on the map I followed up with this very nice woman who said this is our first year of gathering the data the businesses have to self report we should have the data
by November so I contacted her in November she said we've got it but we haven't collated it yet come back to me in March so it's on my list I'm going to go back to her and see what we can learn because I think if I remember right even the mayor and people in town here were
interested okay because maybe is something that they can go to work on that would be a help what do they mean by halogenated gases Refrigeration equipment that's old and that is leaking doesn't have tight seals Does it include
solvents I don't know they halogenated solvents that are volatile and it may be they use the term hogen gases but it may be incorporating that but I have a name I have an email I would like know the
methodology how you can ask her that because if I ask her I will not understand what she says you can um she's a scientist she's not a PR what would make Franklin so bad that's what I'm wondering about comp to exactly piscot well they've got this data on on
the state and this is the results of what they have so it's we've had the have the people people come remember when the residents came and told us about the odors coming out of one of the plants no those those are notor no those were this is this is D so we'll learn
more shortly okay um and then other thing under Hot Topics was solar permitting fast tracking solar permitting ient that to you we looked at that bill at the last meeting um and I think every we made a motion go ahead
and it I pass it's being passed yes and do we know how cumbersome our permitting is here in town um for solar panels I'm not 100% sure from reviewing the bill that you sent it seems like 75% of projected
residential solar panels would move quicker through this process so I'm assuming we're probably in the middle there so I would guess I I don't know how I I don't know how cumbersome it is but I do know that you need to come here in order to to do it so well maybe by pushing that to the
council they can start talking about how difficult it is definitely I have it on my list of that issue since as you know I had panels put on my roof Last Summer the end of the summer um I think the pering process went relatively quickly
but then after everything is done you have to have inspection the inspections you have the have the electrical inspection come out and then you have to have PS psng come out to check it out so it might have been a couple of weeks in between each of those also before you
can actually put it on although some people I know put it on anyway we read the bill we can see if maybe that's Incorporated in it to help put they also have to give you a dual meter because they measure in and
out yes there's a special I have a meter outside electric meter and it's got two tracks and when you get the drills back how much you generated that goes into the grid and how much you took from the grid yeah that's it so yes we we voted
on that last time and it is on my list you know because we met I'm like why do I sell so many things on my list because we just met last week I I have also one it speaking of communication so I mentioned it before but I think we need to address it so the communication that
is sent from environmental commission ATF Franklin nj.gov I'm not receiving it the most recent was give me the date for the for the mar 1 Hillsboro
screening it was the day after our last meeting is sentence that would have been 25th 25 raise your hand if you did not receive it I don't know I was about to ask you we have to
mark that notific no but we should actually on our list we in charge of what goes on no
it so when it can we make that automatically part of it that was Saturday we can ask like every time we have to put please use Niel yes we can I you have to ask for that and then it was not you have to ask for it every time every time you ask for
something to be posted I have like when I want to post the agenda for the environmental commission every time I have to write please post on the main missal calendar and the EC meetings page so yes if you want it on nixel we have to write nixel make that part of the okay yeah everything you want posted on
nixel for the environmental users yeah okay all right things like an email blast with M multiple articles don't need to be but clean up event I want to see if it got posted on the social media yeah the
last thing here what was the DAT February 25th no I didn't know have your device I don't remember now granted I did I'm thinking this I literally oh wait no no it was here while I was sitting here so it was on the 24th and I'm wondering if
it didn't go through because of we were having problems with the internet last time too then you should be able to see what it was yeah I didn't get a bounce back no did not get a bounce back is it I checked that before I'll double check but
no no no no hold on because you know I didn't go to that screening and my excuses that I didn't get reminder you know not that I didn't have to do anything I was still doing lots of
things no I missed it essentially so it I'm going to have to look goes through or yes it looks like it went through but no one got it like yeah you have a problem it's not just me I Ted did you receive receive
what see if it's remember one my 100 emails a day I know that's the other problem surprised if you don't remember because you have the best memory on the table just checking our our social media see if I post here but still the email from our own
environmental commission that jar is sending announcing the this film screening in Hillsboro it was it passed already it was on March 1st right I'm looking to see if it got posted on social how many
of us actually do receive it because it looks like nobody in the room actually I don't remember and it was was it entitled film screening have a don't think IR see she can't even check the email here received
it I don't think anyone received it and I'm looking on social media and it's not on here either yeah but we have to fix it yeah it's not our social media as a communication committee I know we to communicate this is one of our major
communication channels it's not on social media either and I I bet you didn't get on the calendar all right yeah all right let me check with it and see if there's a problem with our email which there is it looks
like yeah well I can but yes I can I can the only thing is you need to when we communicate with it you have to communicate it has to become come from me it has to come directly from me to it are you allowed to but you can CC him on it I can CC you on it what I'm saying is is like they prefer that I just
correspond with them versus everybody else won't follow up but at least he knows you did it yes right thank you yes any we don't bug you yeah that's you don't need any more bug yeah yeah I get it I get Trails committee she gets space that's why I'm like which event is this
for let me see if it made it onto our calendar too I just want to double check um yes because it looks like maybe we have a problem here and you can't even get on your internet and I'm so there's something going on March 1st I haven't been able to get
anything in an hour no okay okay all right let me follow up yeah I don't I don't see it okay I got stuff about the the composting that stuff composting
c yeah all right get that okay and um I guess so what I wanted to [Music] say that's all you wanted can I just add one thing for the dark dark skies maybe
to consider um I don't know if this would fit in but in July the first Saturday I guess it is or Friday night maybe of every July the trails committee does a firefly walk yeah and I'm wondering if that's something maybe that the EC would want to partner with them
on or have a table at because they partner with the astronomy club um and so basically what they do is a they do they uh have the trail walk it starts late you know it doesn't start to late because it's a firefly walk they lead it through John Clyde Memorial native grasslands preserve up to a certain
point and then the astronomy club is there to do observations for people that are interested but if the EC was interested in doing something what time do they start I mean could people see materials or yeah so usually they start when it's still light out like a in like an hour or two before and then they they
have like you know they have people set up their chairs and they talk and they walk and then at the OB yes so if you want I can talk to them about it is that on a weekend it's usually on the first I want to say it's the first sat it's definitely the first Saturday
I'm going to tell you probably when it will be this year just asking at the weekend because it's no not the first Saturday I'm WR I went on it last year with my wife and it it was interesting he would be great for kids it is yeah and you can bring kids you just have to have like you know an adult with them
obviously it it will most likely be to July 12th if they have it which they've had it the last four or five years so July 12th most likely is when will be um so what they try to do is change the date every year if they can the last few
years it's been the first Saturday I think but I remember specifically last year they said they had to change the DAT because there wasn't as many fireflies because it really depends on hum yes so we have to keep an eye on that but it really is beautiful it comes out really nice Duke Farms used to do a
big one that's how and we actually did one in Manville which turned out great so um but yeah kids are definitely welcome it's just they can't be there alone you know Duke Duke FS is now broadcasting the birth of four Eagles yeah I saw that yeah yeah so okay so
then I'll post about trails and um okay I think that'd be a nice partnership there yeah oh we give up the NightLight even maybe like we left by by that's a good idea cool okay so now we're going to go into
Old business old business you want to just run through them sure so the first one sustainable Jersey recertification the first green team meeting um is on March 12th for those of you that are on it yeah so Paul's on it Walter's on it Stan
is on it you my note I saw you can't be there yeah yeah Ted is on it yep so uh that's okay we'll be there don't worry about it so um there's a lot of town Township staff on there so we choose the date Wednesday mornings work well for for the of staff
that have to be in the meeeting so we're going to have it as you know I showed you all the inventory of the uh I showed you all the inventory of all the actions that we've been working on so so far what I've been able to compile with what is done and what there's a few little
things to be done nothing major we have over 600 potential points so we're definitely in good shape but the point of the first e the first green team meeting is going to be to kind of go through and be like yes let's submit this no let's not submit that so that's
what we're going to do and then um you know I can basically start assigning people you know hey can you please write up this narrative here's the documents the good news is I saved all of the narratives and all the submissions in one like PDF package for each person so once I know who's working on it I can
send it to them and they can just be like use this exact wording but change this number I try to make it as easy as possible like I don't if it means like that someone won't send it because they have to rewrite it I'll take it in an email I'll take it WR it doesn't matter so so tell me briefly we are sustainable
silver silver that's the highest level right now and how long have we been silver do we know Ted knows 2019 been a while there oh yeah oh yeah it's on that plaque I'll put that in the email too that we're uh 2019 was the
first time so 2010 is when we first got certified as Brun well they didn't silver until about 2019 2016 actually we got certified is silver and then we've been silver ever since also this year I don't know if you want to write this in the newsletter but I'm fairly confident
about this we should qualify for the gold star in health so that'll be good and yeah so we're working on it yeah and we'll say no gold there's no gold level but there are gold stars and we should
qualify for the gold star in Hell okay um yeah I'll pick up their l going D up in there I have it that with ours that says Franklin like Franklin Township so I can email it to you yeah absolutely so we
resubmit the first resubmittal which is just in draft is due May 16th um the final submittal we have until September and then there's like an interim in July that we'll submit for when do they tell us they usually tell us like middle of October end of
October but I think we're in good shape so we have to submit 350 points and Ted and I always submit 450 points because somebody something always gets kicked back so and depending if we feel like addressing it or not that's why we
s well we we will see when if you send out the evidence so to speak what facts of what we we have yes we'll
have a pretty good idea of what we can yes absolutely submit then it's just a question of writing it up absolutely yeah so in the spreadsheet I tried to make it as easy as possible by changing two things I made it a Google doc a Google sheet and I also put a link into
the uh action so the person can look it up and I actually wrote in people's names that I think should be doing it and that already got me a bunch of phone calls as soon as I depend on that I started getting I don't do this I don't do that I'm like okay you're a placeholder until you find the person so
I think we're I think we're in good shape it's just kind of combining everything at this point okay um the community heat monitoring and mitigation I said at the last meeting that the the agency actually emailed me I don't know if you were here for this the email the agency
emailed me and basically it was a sad email and it basically said we're still planning on processing the funds as long as we're here we're going to keep working until as long as we're here was one they hit with dismissal SW yes the so I haven't received now they said they were going to let us know around the
beginning the first week of March if we got the funding the funding is through the inflation reduction act so that so even though Noah is being targeted that funding is still in place but there might not be anybody to administer the grant funding so I haven't heard that we've received it or not received it but
I will keep I was hoping maybe to know something tonight but I don't so um and the curbside composting program Paul you said that the um the tourist people are still working on getting their required insurance so but how many people did you say you had that were interest about 15
20 already that that's without going broadcast so I I emailed the agent and said give give me an update is the hang up on the agent side or right right okay so that's it that's I think that's all I have for old business other old business
I have a few things remember I talked about roundabouts yes and to encourage roundabouts as a way to reduce um emissions as a way to reduce accidents I would love to know where to go next with this I do know that the New Jersey League of conservation voters is putting
it in their policy guide Sho so they're going to start raising awareness about who was that at the chamber that was vly against it that's oh it was Vince dominc Vince so I said Vince I've got all this data on how really effective it is send
it to me so I did and he said thank you and that was being that was it so um you know I mentioned a few intersections it was at the chamber meeting and U people are saying yeah yeah that's a good idea I've mentioned it to Bill grippo I I figured just keep talking it yeah Joe
danielson's interested but so if anybody has any suggestions I'd like to see it be a part of a trigger in other ordinances like if you're improving an intersection you have to instead of replacing existing traffic light make
explore putting in a roundabout like complete streets has a didn't they have a lot of roundabouts years and years ago those were circles what's the difference in round circles are big even like Flemington those are
circles so roundabout is like in South is not the descriptor this is not the differentiator what is the differentiator that round about you always have to he when you approach it you always have to heal the traff that is on it right with traffic circles some
of them you do some of them you don't which is total mess yeah and it's Madness like the Somerset Circle circles do circles have two lanes and does a roundabout only have one no it doesn't matter doesn't matter but they're usually smaller I mean I I think
I've sent everybody all theart in Europe they are big they are small and big there are usually feeders of small ones in into big ones and then small ones again usually the speed limit is 20 M an hour and so that helps cuz right away it slows people down and you always you
know that you always have to slow down so you do not speculate whether you can still do the orange or not run the light so you always slow down but you do not have to stop and wait for light because you just watch the traffic it clears up
you go it would help if all New Jersey drivers were sensitive to people wanting to come in and like alternate you know when you have traffic jam then the zigzag principle follows of course but
uh although no still on around so the B one do a Runabout that's a roundabout well on rosale road just beyond DNR Greenway and also
on Lafayette Road which is I just emailed I want to show you what I had yeah yeah the do the state do is very proud of the one in Clinton and then there's another one down in Burlington County somewhere that they think they're just great stuff so one on the ruter
campus as you go all the way down George Street to the end you into Livingston I think it takes you from in Arizona from Scottdale to Dona they're like every Mile and it's cheaper because you don't
have to have the lights right and if you have any Collision it is at low speed because the amount of there are 32 points of Collision in a standard traffic like intersection there are eight points in a roundabout what's that mean points points of potential
Collision oh if you look back at the articles I sent you you can see the graphs that they this Collision includes the food traffic as well so they they are much safer um they are less expensive to install the problem is in existing intersections where you have to
buy land right that can create a problem but in a lot of places the intersections you know we got three lanes each way by the time you incorporate that you could you could put in a roundabout so when when you have heavy traffic already and you want to convert it to round about I
mean good luck because you have to rout the traffic for the places places are doing it I've seen a few of them go in in Long Island and heavily densely populated Long Island and I was thinking along our Canal Road because if you uh
uh block the traffic due to construction it's not such a big deal it's not so heavy traffic road we long Canal Road Long Canal Road when you have all those little roads coming in cuz some people are speeding through when you have the
traffic circle it will naturally slow them down I'd love to get to the right person at the county I have written to them and encouraged it but I think Mater did youa Matt loer no that's who I would talk to he's the director of planning and Engineering
now was Walter right well Walter was in charge of planning but now Matt's in charge of engineering and planning so yeah speaking of that isn't there um a meeting coming up about Eon Avenue uh I think there is yeah let me
look for the date no Walter's gone Walter gone yeah Deputy Commissioner of something you know he's doing something else he's at the um office of planning advocacy um let me look Franklin
yeser Matthew ler yeah Matthew he's the engineer now he's in charge of planning and Engineering oh I I spoke to him there's an Adam slutsky in he's the the um assistant engineer assistant County engineer okay what are we looking for
Ean na right yep when is the usually they put it right up here on the front there were a bunch of them a while ago I haven't seen anything there's a new one coming up I believe that starts at 5:30 where you can go in and look at the plans and the council chambers then at 6:30 they start with their presentations
eastn Avenue traffic right plans meeting what's the name of it CC what's the name of that plan eastn Avenue uh improve you yeah Improvement can we ask an audience member who might yes do you know
[Music] Bill talking anybody oh do you know what it is no oh do we have problems with the internet yes the internet acting up e project
description oh go she also yes that's what we've been talking it depends on what it is like I can't pull up any site plans about the pro oh here we a project schedule so no dates unless you can click on
those summer no so these have passed already so it looks like right now we are in the selection of preliminary preferred Alternatives right but there's no dates up here want me say hi
the date slide about the study let's see study details no same thing I don't I don't know if there's any upcoming if there is this is on the County's website I don't see it here resources let's
see meetings oh maybe it was a Hamilton meeting number one yeah no I don't 24 there's nothing up here yet I might have been thinking about a Hamilton Street one I think that's I saw that one recently I put in Western Canal Road
Western Canal Road yeah that's that's my project on the map oh you on the county um I uh yeah this is like the specifically East a um thing but I will look for a chamber meetings are the third Thursday or second
Thursday I have to look into my email is the lady com to one of her okay any other any other uh I email her all the time opportunities but this is from 2015 so that's not it he's planning and Engineering so
maybe if you go to engineering it'll I don't see it be looking who are you looking for Stan well I'm trying to find the face but mat ler is the person you should talk to but I actually I had another person from the
organization and I in mind boino oh Tom bino he's in charge of preserved open space though but he's also in planning both he's in planning but he does you know preserved open space and things like that but you met him I know but I
don't know mat yeah y okay so uh cbide composting oh we talked about that already any other just basically any other what the story with our tree ordinance suggestions uh what's this so the last I
heard was that we're waiting still on Arie what do you know from the shry commission what's up with this manual or whatever is going on with CME have they given anything thought I I think they gave something um but
what it was like a first draft draft that's what I mean we're waiting on that basically and then once they have that will they consider our recommendations CU is plann yeah we at least at least that's what we've been
told right let's keep asking because we put a lot of work into that I can't find okay okay anybody else have any other old business well I have new business that I forgot we
didn't discuss the article on volunteering that Jenny drafted um well she sent four different articles what do we need to do just talk about I want to take one at a time so I wasn't going to talk about four the time I just Franklin times for that one
because we discussed the stream cleanup that's off table right it's up to zappy I got to ask her we have also article on uh save the mole refresh which also is very good and the volunte but the volunteering uh we ask
first time so looks like so I haven't gotten any any information on Franklin times the Franklin times might be a good place to put the volunteering one okay but but do we want to discuss the content I think that I think it's
it's great I think it's a great article also I think it should go to you know the Franklin reporter and uh in my opinion I think Bill can run it that way I I I had a couple of I sent a couple I don't run things just usually
people send them to me so so you know that right yeah well that's what we're talking about not asking you to pick it up now we will send it J will send it to you but I'm saying I reserve the right to edit oh yes oh yeah of course yeah also yes so just so Jenny's articles are
wonderful that's like I want to say that number one um but yes say that as the first um yes so you're going to set if we if they get sent in they would be in the what did you call it in your opinion is that in the in your opinion section to
Bill and then yes he gets to you know he it's his thing so he gets edit he wants and well he's got space requirements also and he has space and yes of course yeah absolutely and if we can do it in Franklin times we find out when yeah I just emailed saffy to ask ask her I
haven't received any like call for articles or anything so maybe that she's going to send it out tomorrow right she'll probably be I think that that those are good places for that one and what are the others we already did the mo yes so so but let's take one
at a time so so uh comments regarding the volunteering article I liked it that's the that's the government machine that's the which one is that yes open it cuzz we have comments from Arie so let me uh save the
all let me just open this and see what's they didn't talk about that one yet but is this the one you were talking about or no not yet not yet okay volunteer one volunteer I'm sorry volunte volunteer soliciting okay all
right great article you have a let good comment there all right I don't think we need to go through all the comments one by one right now right uh I thought that or do you want to go through the comments one by one well we were going to discuss them
one by one I don't know if we want to go through the comments I sent them to Jenny I sent them to you I sent them to St yes so you have these comments J and you guys can do with those comments whatever you want on on three out of the four the the mo thing I didn't say anything that was fine but the other
three um I made a few comments and if you guys want to pick up on them or not that's up to you yeah definitely yeah um I so what's the motion so Arie made
comments Jenny you have the comments so what I think is what Arie saying he's basically like offering some comments so if you have a chance to go through and you want to accept the comments is that basically what you're saying yeah it's not like her and whoever else looks and if like you I guess you and Stan want to
work together and say yes we accept this comment you know they like pretty minor comments right for this one since it's coming from me I can just look through the comments and right in right absolutely I think so yes if you have any questions or comments questions on
my comments you're welcome to contact yeah sure yes the one that's going to now so the volunteerism and the other what was the other one that was going to go to Franklin reporter volunteerism and save the M that one yeah this one's coming for me
everything else you can do ever you want okay so basically so the other two articles we can go through and we can decide are we going to post in Franklin times on our website so I have um comment for this one somewhere on top uh
you are saying uh relatively informed I think the word relatively can be construed as uh weakening the author I would suggest to take it off why relatively you staying ined
is it relative or not yeah I agree with you Stan you can take that word out relatively yeah uh and uh so that's opinion and the second one was factual um I made comment about the mile run where where it is and you said six
mile run which I was like wow we didn't do six mile runs a mile run a 10K [Music] I think it's I think scroll
up um the one this meeting highlighted this meeting I can't use my find function something's happening I see it either where it is where is my talking about I can just make it stream clean
up um well this isn't the screen clean up one there's one there you go you may remember them for the annual six mile run stream yeah just take out six Six Mile R I can do that and and technically uh we call those stream cleanups Joan
Clyde stream cleanup okay John yeah so it should be the annual John Clyde yeah what C for annual or Joan Clyde annual linguistically annual
annual annual Cas John Clyde capitalized okay yeah okay and incidentally I remember that sustainable Jersey wants there to be an educational
component of stream cleanups which is articles like this yes we we have article before then we have the followup article and during the event the beginning we talk about
the importance of it so I think we do have education covered okay so any further comments about this one she's going to look okay next
um and the next one was this uh save the mole I like that it was connected to the previous one and it had new content in it I I like it as
is okay she's fired Sheed before I like she put smt what about having a youth member the council was going to Ed said he was going to ask right have you heard
anything more on that I haven't heard it we talked about it at the latest meeting we talked about at the last meeting with Ed and he said oh yes that's on my to do and he was going to look into it so what these are your comments yeah this is the H this is the PSA the Habs
PSA one oh we have stream clean up I I'm sorry we have saved the M up right now no yeah this save them all save them all oh yeah I was sort of confused where it
says in that second paragraph the beginning of Spring parentheses should spring ends roughly around Earth Day there's something in there I don't know if that's right or what beginning of Spring which ends roughly around
Earth Day the the season of spring yeah technal season is from the Spring Equinox it's late March to the solstice which is late
June of course by late June we're really in summer but I'm just going to say reord is that okay in the comments Jenny like you part in parentheses I was actually debating keeping it in at all because I explain in the following paragraph that
ecologically speaking the beginning of Spring ends around Earth day but that sort of introduces the concept of like save the mo till Earth Day and why it's not no M so I kind of felt like I could take that out one of my friends who looked over it said that I shouldn't
um but that parenthese part maybe take it out I put a comment in there and then you can do what you think is best okay I'm just saving this with so we know what's what
comments okay all righty anything else down there let's see diverse ecosystems when it underlined I guess it's asking for something yeah for first it's that should be space
bar here I think I was sure where it says when I put in two there it says there are only one or few plants so I didn't know if it was one or fewer or if it was one or two so it
should be few or only one there are few are only one right okay all right [Applause] okay because I'll put in the comment Jenny can look at it I'll figure that out and
then the next one there at the end of that paragraph where I have it highlighted in yellow and then blue and I made the comment about the second part of that sentence to me had nothing to do with the first part of the sentence I didn't understand it the problem with
our Lawns is that they support very little biodiversity and at the rate are chopping down forest make neighborhoods and strip malls we can no longer afford to lose this land so basically what I think you're trying to say is that the land that's being used for lawns is
would be better used if it could just remain forest or natural well we are adding complexity here with the forest because the original idea did not include forests of SN we were not discussing
Forest you think it's it's still matching but yeah Forest and strip malls um it just didn't make sense to me with the the problems uh what is it the problem with our Lawns is support bi very little biodiversity and then all of
a sudden you're talking down talking about chopping down forest and adding strip malls and no longer can we afford to lose land I'm going to just say can we reorder separate these sentences for clarity and then again you can look at
it does that make sense yeah I would make maybe not yeah I was trying to avoid using the term natural land because that's IL defined like that that was sort of my idea of like we're getting rid of natural land that supports biodiversity but there's this question of like what is natural land um
and so that's why I replaced it with Force but I try to find undisturbed undisturbed that's a good idea yeah okay I'll that undisturbed spell with the red lines
I don't have suggestion even in Forest there are real differences between land that at some point was used
as fields and Forest that has never been the secondary differences in the soil yeah okay got it excuse me everybody have virgin land that's another one that's never
been disturbed by by human what that's right I can say he's having all PES over he's they're brewing a big batch of we need we need a
glossery of words and and one we can Jenny so Jenny has these articles right just to be clear and so Arie you're good with her just looking through these right or no yeah and then
she can make the final draft and coordinate it or no well whatever we agree on I mean if if we are find that after the addition she just submits yeah I mean yeah I don't see how we can
flat one outlet with four or how many articles we have at the time but uh maybe he will figure it out well the save the mo and the volunteerism maybe can go to start yeah I think the save the mo could even wait another few weeks everybody's grass is still dormant right
now right with the volunteerism one that's a good one to go clean up and the stream clean up clean I also feel like the volunteerism isn't tied to the season or to an ual event nice to get out as soon as possible but it doesn't to get out got it clean up I mean the
the thing is that we want to have the announcement multiple times and um but um we cannot just ask one Outlet to do it multiple times so then the question is what is the best timing for given
outlet to release um we'll leave it up to that outlet but yeah we about stream clean but we haven't finished with this one yeah well well going back and forth um so save the mo and probably
wait to go out for right now like we can hold cuz we're not going to like bombard with all these articles I think there's two more comments on that there yeah sure yeah not comments but on the next paragraph down I think the word it can be removed mhm
Y and then number two below that um this is something we discussed that uh oh is your best bet and we had talked about not putting anything about which lawn to
use right so we want that we wanted to not say just the front lawn I think it should just be designate a section of your lawn that is not used off for activities and that's it you can decide compromised then it's okay uh the
the the reason why I put it in was um see well not only that but you are not using it for activity activity yeah I understand out La is what people want to show off themselves the back lawn is
what they use typically but I think if they can show off a front lawn with flowers routing so much the better yeah but the the thing is if you have uh Wild
flowers and and you have the pollinators you don't want to have it in the backyard because you don't want to step on B right so I can understand why they don't want to do in the backyard because the human activity um and that's why the front
lawn would be but that's why we say leave it to them to decide which some of them might say front lawn and good for that yeah some people might have a much bigger have a very little back yard more Frontage whose battery is
running R mine oh my gosh yes I do I do yes not plug in uh no I can yeah all right got another okay so be it we can
take it off anything else not on this one now were we going to go over anything else today or is that we'll see how what's the tolerance of the crowd here I think
um yeah I I think we can do this between Jenny and and us like with comments I don't know that we need to unless you guys want to I thought that the the commission wants to kind of always talk [Music]
about I mean St Stan made a comment and I made some comments and that's it and it's up to me you know once Jenny you know decides on whether she wants to do it what way and gives it to you guys it's up to you guys to decide okay if we don't need to move on
what much easier yeah so maybe next one or you want to want to pop up the next article sure yeah which one is the next one um last one or uh this one the H that's the only one
I didn't okay in June yeah yeah this is for June yeah so I'll save it it I'll save it yeah okay so we're not going to look at that now uh it's up to you guys but it w't be rush I mean we don't have
to have to look at it I'm G to save it though all right all right and then uh let's see we did say the mohab volun here stream clean up we l that didn't we yeah
we did we all right so that's it then yeah yep that one will go in the name of the envir got it got it okay thank you Jenny this is excellent thank you so much yeah really
good [Music] wri J you got anything more you want to add yeah I do um one of them one of the things I thought of for skip the stuff um a lot of restaurants in town are still just giving straws with your drink
soop we can include straws into the whole discussion with plastic where straw has been already banned I mean banned from distribution without asking doing it I know this is the most violated uh law in because they are not
supposed to give it to you without asking yeah so if they give it to you without asking they V lasted for like that's something that comes down to enforcement and again we talk about this last week that the Somerset County
Health Department inspects restaurants and while they're doing their inspections if they walk around the restaurant and they see this happening see it then they hit them with a violation and that's something that we should bring to the attention to of the Somerset County Health Department no I
agree with you Stan it's you know it's all about enforcement and how much time they have but it's not really a priority of theirs but you know should be everything I feel like there needs to be a way for like citizens to report it like like I'd report places when I go out or something but I guess that's not your jurisdiction well you can report it
to the to the health department and I have done it see it happening and then they can write that right no they have to make their own visit because they have to um inspection yeah yeah but again if they get a call from many people about the same restaurant they
might make another trip besides their regular annual inspection just to check it out our our County you you tell them they do it they don't count how many people are complaining about giving restant they just go I complain about
the Amish farmers market in Kingston because they were giving up plasting bags and so plastic what plastic bags I think though aren't you if you're under a certain square foot you can give out plastic B then you have to be paper no I
don't think so no you can still be plastic fet that's how farmers markets get get by so these inspectors are going out do they have a checklist they do I'm sure am I would like to see the checklist to see if the straws are on there the bags
are on there I'm pretty sure that the the threshold you are talking about above certain square footage they cannot give out any bags for free they have to sell it okay but when it's less they still cannot give out plastic they have to give paper
I don't know if that's true possible something depending on the the size of the store and what kind of store it is I mean because it's really aimed at grocery stores I was working over at Turon Orchards and they were saying that we
were allowed to give them out but they we didn't want to be the ones that were like giving out plastic bags so we waited for people to ask for them but we didn't have to charge for that at least that's what I was told yeah I know that the exceptions are uh in Pharmacy when
they hand out and also what they call the produce bags when you have to bag meat and and that's the meat fish those but it's not by itself a bag it's just
you know thin piece of plastic and uh yeah but particularly when you're getting loose vegetables but I keep the bags those bags and reuse them yes me too a lot yes like gold using the bird seed
bags for my dirty kitty litter screws nails and stuff in a plastic bag they're allowed to do that yeah the only thing the law says is that super markets over 2500 square fet can only they cannot do the plastic bags
but doesn't actually say under 2500 square ft so it basically says if you're 2500 ft or over this applies to you under it doesn't and then you can I mean they still do give out plastic bags at like the smaller stores why does size make a
difference because who knows yeah know size Matters guys but you know sorry big paper bags at Ace Hardware the size of the store because we use the big paper bags to accumulate
junk mail for recycling that's what I did I do the same thing bags I saved up just for that paper bags the one thing that Jenny is saying though to get back to what you're were saying Jenny is that about the straws I
mean you're right they can still give out paper straws so the plastic so that's what you're saying right also you shouldn't be giving out straws plastic or paper with to skip the stuff that should be includ yeah I think that makes sense Donald Trump says they don't work I know
[Applause] recycle Pap because they're contaminated I went need a I went to purchase in McDonald's over the weekend say that's good work very well I the one thing I might be agree with him on you just don't need a was it was a
you know an accident or they really following that I got stainless steel straws from 4 yeah I have some of those somewhere also to clean the you got anything else Jenny or that's the county that I can report it to yes County Health Department um
the other thing was last last week I mentioned having um an event for information about native plants and um I'm I guess I'm just wondering next steps on that I can be a part of the planning or so the yeah the next steps would basically be we have a person on our Trails committee that's on the
native PL Society so I would connect with him first I think that's the next steps our Trails committee now the next one is virtual so if you want you can sign on to that and or I can bring it up at the next meeting okay um could I like reach out to him beforehand see if he'd
be interested in that sort of yeah I don't see why not I think that like ideally that sort of thing would happen in like April or May so I just want to make sure that I'll email you his information I'll email you his name is PES LA and I'll email you his information yeah we connected at the
trail advisor meeting I went to so I'll propose that idea to him cool thank you so much okay thank you any other comments no I'm good okay motion to close the public comments so move second second all in
favor motion toj move [Music]