In accordance with the open public meeting act of the state of New Jersey, adequate notice of this meeting with the Franklin Township Environmental Commission was made by posting on the board in the municipal building posted on the township's website and electronically transmitted to the
officially designated newspapers indicating that this meeting would take place in person at 7:00 p.m. on um August 18th when we are Yep. That's good. Okay. >> Okay. Um we'll do a roll.
>> Robin >> here. >> Stan. >> Yes. President. >> Yes. >> Maria >> here. >> Walter >> here. >> Here. That was easy. I just go around. >> Nice.
>> And somebody else was here. public. Yay. >> Good timing. Okay. Um, we did the roll call. I have a a brief report, but I just want to mention to everybody um I visited Jersey Mike's on
Cedar Grove last week and spoke with the manager about our save the stove program. He said that they do ask on to to go orders whether the customer wants utensils or not but he seems interested and would welcome recognition.
Uh fran fr this is my comment franchise franchises love to show the owners that they are costconscious and being recognized by the community. >> You know that's that's a he's following rules. Um, and so and I mentioned about
the sticker and and a letter and so he's interested and it's somebody that we can get to right away. Um, it's a good start. I bought a turkey sandwich. >> We learned something. They won't recogn
it's when when you're turning from the middle, it's on the right side. Starbucks, right? >> Yeah. Right next to Starbucks. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I figured that's the story. >> And it brings up a good point. When people when stores sign up for it, we
should recognize them on our website. >> Yes. Absolutely. >> Shout out to for participating. >> There are there are 3,000 um Jersey Mike around the country. It's a huge operation. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> That's why they have their name on the
rack, the Rock Athletic Center. that blew me away when I was over there. >> I to have it into Patriot changes. >> It's not a little operation. >> So, also I just want to bring up um some of us were at the planning board meeting uh where the list of 30 conditions were
um approved by the planning board. Uh the applicant didn't like two of them, but we'll see what happens. Uh the third driveway which I wanted hoped for it was down to two and it didn't make any sense for me to get up and say anything
because they weren't going to take any changes anyway. So it so that didn't matter. The lawsuit is still open and waiting for the appeals court to rule or schedule hearing. So both um the um the sewag which is the canal walk against
whatever I forget what the G stands for. Um they're they filed as an intervenor been accepted and they filed an appeal. The township filed an appeal. So we'll see what happens. That's my opening reports. >> All right.
Um approval of the August 4th minutes that Ted worked on right up to the last minute. I know cuz we were doing editing right to the end. >> Second. >> Any any changes? Arnold has
>> Yeah. I just uh two quick things in the um fourth paragraph from the uh bottom uh where at the very end where it says starting uh stating that henceforth we will recommend meeting the impervious
cover limit. Uh not just approach it uh not just approaching it. I think it should say the impervious cover limit for all applications not just approaching it
just to be clear that every application that's the that's what our recommendation is going to be. Can >> you just say one more time? I'm sorry I just found the paragraph. Um recommend we recommend reducing impervious coverage to the ordinance limit on all applications >> for all applications not just
approaching it. We recommend meeting the code. >> Okay, got it. >> Um, and then in the last paragraph, >> shouldn't it say meeting impervious cover, not reducing impervious? >> Yeah, it says meet and >> Tara is up there on the screen says reducing
>> reducing. Yeah, >> that's not what Ted sent out late today, I don't think. Oh, okay. We're Okay, let me get All right. Uh, all right. I'll have to make it I'll Well, Ted will take a note of it
and then we'll make it and then I'll post it. Does that work, Ted? Unless I can find your email real quick. >> Actually, in in Ted that he sent out this afternoon, it's in bold, the word meeting. [Music] >> Thank you. >> What you sent out this afternoon, the minutes.
>> Let's see. This might be the >> I thought I sent it yesterday. >> Might have been yesterday. The la the very last one, but I thought >> the last one. >> The very last one. >> Here it is. Yeah, the last paragraph if you can see on the screen. >> Oh, here it is. Okay, got it. I got it.
Meeting the impervious coverage limit on all applications, not just approaching it. Yes. Okay. Got it. I got it. >> Um, yeah. For for all applications, not just approaching. >> Okay. Is the not approaching it referring to time or referring to the
limit? >> No, it's the limit. >> And while I see that Bethl is two words. There's a space between the H and E. It's Bethl. >> Oh, yes. >> Maybe the wording not just approaching
it should be removed. No, >> it's just >> all right. I'll fix it here. Yeah, >> I think it makes a point there. >> And the second thing that I have is that >> should be too. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Got it. We got it. Go ahead.
>> Second thing that I have is in the last paragraph on the first page. Starting with uh a Schmidt recommended getting the decals from this printer. I guess we don't want to mention what the printer's name is. That's why I use this
uh 215 for 100. but asking the Somerset County Print Shop what they would charge and whether they could laminate them for better wear and that just I mean I don't remember the exact words that I said but it just doesn't ring clear to me that if I'm recommending getting the details
from the printer why would be we'd be asking the county print shop what they would charge I would think it would say but first asking this county print shop what they would charge and whether they could laminate them for better sticking the word first.
>> Pardon me? >> Sticking the word first in there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, so what happened was we already got the quote from the one printer for the decals and the signs. And your recommendation was to ask the print shop if they could print the signs for cheaper cuz they can't printing decals,
the county print shop, but they can print signs. And I actually did get that quote and it was cheaper. So, it's basically printing just the signs from the county print shop. >> Okay. Well, it doesn't say signs in here. Okay. Yeah. So, that's what it is. >> That's why it just didn't make sense to me.
>> For the signs. >> Yeah. But asking the county print shop what they would charge for the signage. Yeah. >> Signage. Got it. Okay. >> I got acceptance of the changes.
I >> Yes, we're completed. Uh that completes the minutes. Uh public comment. >> Oh, motion to open the floor to public comment. >> Second in >> favor. >> I
move to close. >> Second, please. >> All in favor? >> I >> public comment like we did that correspondence. I have two letters. uh one from um Norris Department of
Environmental Protection about the meeting for the pipeline. Uh there's going to be a virtual meeting September 10th, 4 to 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. And members of the public who wish to participate in the
hearing may participate via Microsoft Teams and those planning to offer oral comments at the hearing may pre-register to do so. It is not required to pre-register to speak at the hearing. However, those who do complete the pre-registration will be called first to
speak. Anybody here that want to do it and take part, you won't unfortunately or fortunately I'll be on a plane on the tent. So, I won't be able to do that. But, uh anyone who wants to take part, this is a
nice way to do it. And um you do have to register, but that was the letter if anybody wants to take that out here. Uh the >> I know I know that um the League of Conservation Voters. >> Yeah. >> I would imagine I don't know about
Anjac. I hope Anjac will anybody know of anybody else that's speaking on this subject? >> The compressor station. >> Oh, sorry. Power. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> will probably speak for sure.
>> Yeah, >> we think energy. >> Yes, they probably will too. Patty >> Bronheim. >> Maybe if any of us are talking then we should just double check because it'd be a shame if we all assumed everybody else is talking and here we are Environmental
Commission. Nobody's talking. So >> now are we supposed to >> Well, it's in Franklin >> and Franklin Township has taken a position opposed. >> Yeah. >> On record being record has to formally represent and I think somebody should
maybe that's a question for Horn Locker. >> Yeah, I can ask them. Yeah, I'll ask. >> Let us know. Send us an email. Do you know Ted whether anybody is speaking that for the town? >> I don't know. Well, I should certainly speak. I live about a mile away.
>> Would be wonderful. >> I would think Mark Hilly might say something >> spoke. It would be good to know. >> I'll follow up with them. Yeah. >> We don't meet again until after that. >> Right. Right. >> I should think the mayor would speak.
>> That would be a good one. >> Let's see what happens. Okay. Um, now we've got one, another letter. Eastern States Environmental Associates, uh, legal notification,
Jefferson Green Light LLC from Maplewood. The property is 37 to Damer Road, block 8201, lot 2204, and block 341, lot 37. They
want a letter of interpretation for wetlands. And uh no regular activities, just establishing where regulated wetlands, if any, are found on the above property. And they did have a map. >> Of course,
>> it should be two. >> Delmer road. >> Delmer road. >> Is it near you? >> Well, it's south off of South Middle Bush. Oh, >> it's between Venice Lane and and
>> so this is north. So here is here. >> Well, see what they come up with. This is this is comrail I guess. No stretch. >> Pull that up.
>> There's a there lots of >> We're going to we're going to pull it up on the screen. Robin, >> we can't There's nothing for us to do right now. >> No, no, nothing to do. Just get be alert that something's coming down the pipe. Okay.
>> E201 you said, right? >> No. >> No. 2011 220. [Music] 847. >> So that's that's going right.
>> It's this Corby though down that road >> giant lot rolling around. >> It's this this and this. Yeah. >> Yeah. 8401. That's a big lot. >> Yeah. So this is Dmer Road for reference. This is Amwell Road. Uh what
else here I can show you? Uh here's Buffa, right? So this is middle bush. Middle bush. Yeah, middle bush. And while I see >> the bottom is L'Oreal R40s, isn't it?
It's all residential. >> 84 on this one. I'm not sure. Uh I don't know if they'll have the zoning on this. I can try. I got the trees. >> Yes. >> And there's a warehouse right on the diagonal corner. It looks like a warehouse in the front. This side of
Dmer there was already a request from L'Oreal to chop it off, right? >> Yeah. Yes. >> This is updated picture. I don't know. See what happens. >> Yeah.
>> It's the last empty water in that section. [Music] No regulated activities. Just establishing where regulated wetlands and are. And >> maybe that's why nobody's built them. >> Yeah. They're not submitting a plan for
anything yet. They're just establishing where the wetlands are. But obviously that's for a reason. >> You only Yeah. You don't >> Greenlight LLC. >> We We've seen that work before that engineering firm. I've seen this >> Jefferson Greenlight. No, this >> Reynolds. They do a lot of work.
>> Oh, Reynolds. I was talking the applicant is Jefferson LLC. I don't know what that is. Yeah. >> No, I don't either. >> That's That's the two um written comments. >> Any site plan applications?
>> No site plans. >> No, not at all. >> Wow. No, >> we did a lot last time. I think that's why. But yeah. [Music] Okay. Okay. Then we're into new business.
Residential energy efficiency. Oh, I know something I wanted to mention. There's also an inject conference coming up in September. >> Oh, yes. It's $115 to register if anybody wants to go. Is the township going to cover the 115? >> I think it's October. October 10th.
>> October. Is it October? >> And it's at New Brunswick Seminary, which is so convenient. >> It's here. Yeah. >> Right on campus there. >> There's a wonderful big parking lot right next to the building. It's right off of College Avenue. I will be in
Austria or I would be there. I'm thrilled to death. I was on the board of the seminary for seven years. their new building. I was chairman of the new building committee. It's a great piece of property. It's a great building. >> So, I I encourage you to go, >> let the township pay the registration fee, go to the congress, and enjoy
visiting the seminary. >> I think I I went to the congress last year down in South Jersey somewhere, >> right? >> I wandered around, went to the booth and that kind and sat in on on a couple of the seminars. So, it's it's worth going to. And Tara, maybe you could check make
sure we got the budget. >> Yeah, I Well, we do. So, I think at the last meeting I asked everybody if anyone's interested in going to let me know because it's going to take time for them to cuz I can't do it like the PO and everything. So, if you're interested, let me know. And I basically have to ask Mark Healey's office to put
the PO in. So, the sooner the better >> each day is it again. It's a Friday, >> right? >> Yeah. She said Thursday up there. No, it says Friday. October 10th is a Friday. >> I was looking what was up on the screen
there. Whatever that was. >> Friday, October 10th, 9:00 a.m. >> That was October 10th. It's a Friday. Yeah. >> Okay. >> And if you do go, ask if you can go see the library. It's the most beautiful building in New
Brunswick. New Brunswick Seminary Library is just it almost takes your breath away and nobody even knows it's there. Mom used to work on College Avenue campus so wow. >> I think I could I could do that with
this co. >> You want to go? >> Yeah. >> All right. I'll because he'll do 1 PO for everybody. So I know Paul. So over the next few days if you can email me that would be great. Let me know if you want to go.
I want to get that in. I remember I knew there was something else I had to do and that was it. >> Yeah. Perfect. >> Farah, was this was this emailed to us? >> Um, I believe >> I got it directly. >> If you're on the If you're on the Anjack list, then you get it.
>> The second one we've already got. >> Yep. Oh, they've been sending it like like left and right. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> I think Deie was the one to send it. Chica. Yeah, >> I think
today was from Sheila. What's her name? >> Yeah, it's been coming out a lot. Yeah. >> Okay. Um, >> oh, I might mention I when Anjek had that gathering at Duke Farm, I talked
with Sheila, I can't remember, >> Rodriguez or something. >> Yeah. She was interested in knowing what we were doing. And I I finally got around to sending her some minutes of our meetings to exemplify that. Try to
pick ones that all had some mention of Skip the Stop as an example of something we're slowly working on. >> Great. Yeah. update on the residential energy
efficiency campaign grant. >> Oh, perfect. Okay, that is this. Okay, >> did you want to talk about it, Maria? >> Tired, too. >> I don't blame you. Oh, yeah. Seriously, you've been a lot. >> So, um
it was difficult to it was challenging to find speakers. Um when I tried to um reschedu it for September, the library um the librarian um or the the programmer of the library not recommended not to do that because uh they have received many calls from
residents interested in attending this. So we left it for the same the day that >> it was already on the program roster essentially. Do >> you have any idea how many people are coming so far? No. >> No registration is required I guess, right? No.
So, >> what's the date of that? >> I'm getting many, many calls afterwards. >> Who's Who's going to do the welcome? Who's going to be the MC? Are you going to be there? >> What date is that? >> 28th. >> Thursday the 28th at 6:00. >> This here? >> Yeah. >> Next week. >> Next week.
>> Next week. >> Yes. It's like dinner. >> And then she said that she didn't have any room for >> I was going to take my grandson out for dinner. He's all alone. Okay. >> What time What time is that? >> It's at 6:00.
>> Two speakers. >> 7:30. >> Can somebody else do it? >> Can somebody else do it? >> I am none. I told Maria I can't. I got a family event. >> That's from uh 6 >> 6 to 7:30.
>> Cuz I'm going to read the bios before they speak, but I'm not doing the welcome. It should be someone. >> I can't do something. >> Are you going to be there? You'll be there anyway, right? But you don't want to do the welcome. I'm going to do the just >> don't read their entire bio >> just a little bit before they
>> and then I asked them to moderate the Q&A. >> Got it. >> We want we need a commissioner to start the welcoming and a commissioner to close it so they see us. Nobody >> anybody available from commissioner
>> my um my my daughter's on a cruise. My grandson is on >> take care of the welcoming. Okay. All right. And the closing maybe. >> You can do the closing. >> Okay. >> If I'm there, I'll do I'm most likely
going to be there. >> Okay. >> That would be great. >> Okay. Ted and Ted will be there too, he says. So, if you need someone, Ted also can help out. >> So, we're having someone from >> PSCG, right? and someone from NJLCB and
NJP and they already met. We met last week uh because they wanted to align their presentations and they have a second meeting last Friday without me. >> So they should be pretty well organized. >> Yeah, they I was impressed. They said Maria we have to meet to know what we're
going to say and how the program and >> and then I think you also want to mention that we are pursuing community energy aggregation. that we're hoping to find a successful bid. That was a ballot question that
people approved. So, that's one thing that there hasn't been anything worthwhile yet, but we keep looking for contracts. And there was Oh, and then talk about community solar and send them to the right page on the township website. >> If people are interested in community
solar, that's a way to save money and that's a program already ongoing. But know where to go before you stand up to talk to people. Point them to the right place and maybe even get it up on a screen or
make a sign and leave it up somewhere so people know where they where to go for to sign up for community solar. I don't know if it's fully subscribed. I know the state just released a whole new batch of it. whether anybody's biting in Franklin to do another project which might open subscriptions but it would be
a good idea to be current on the latest on community solar and maybe LCV could tell you what that is so you can speak intelligently on community solar but it does save everybody automatically
a certain percent >> it's passive people and so it's just fully for the information >> but they have to sign up. No, for aggregation. No, >> no, >> but for community solar, that's what I was. That's what I'm talking about.
>> It's it's active. They have >> they have to sign up. >> Aggregation is possible, >> right? I understand that. But make sure they know where to sign up and what the savings is. If you can get Ed Tasnack there, >> it would be great to do
>> and tell him he can come and dance away after seven minutes, it's fine. >> I emailed him. I said that he was he was out of town or something. He has some commitment with family too. >> Well, ask >> and I will I will try again. >> Yeah.
>> And you might ask him about the community solar any any info he could give you on community solar. So you give the right info to the community. >> Ed could give you that. >> He would give on aggregation. >> He's not coming. Maria just said
>> he could give you current information on community aggregation too, but you have to ask him. >> It would be nice if he >> um who has the like tablecloth and the sand. >> You have all that. Okay. But but Paul's not going to go. So,
>> but I can get it to have because when I've got it is in the evening. So, I'll get the free morning. I can get it to whoever needs it. >> You can drop it at the library. Library. You can drop it at your convenience. Not too, you know, far away, but >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I'll be able to do that. >> Okay. So, if you can do that, that would
be great. >> Oh, will drop. And you have the tablecloth. The night lights still or No, >> some night lights. Yeah. >> And you have that standing banner? >> Yep. Grab the banner.
>> It's going to be in the When you walk in the library, it's the room to the right. >> Okay. Shall I print the attendee sheet for people to >> get their email address? >> I can print it for you if you want. I >> think
there I'm not sure 100% yet. >> Well, I print it at home and I can like drive it to you or I can leave it at the library. >> But if you have a printer then you can just print it. You don't have a printer. Okay. Uh okay. We'll figure it out.
>> I'll send you uh the electronic version what I was printing recently. >> Okay. Sure. >> Now, Tara, we have the standup thing for PSNG. We also had one that we bought. >> Yes. >> Where is that one? >> I checked my office and it's not in
there. So, the last time I think it was used was at Franklin Day last year. >> I was not at Franklin Day last year. You paid for this banner that lists all the things an environmental commission does. I have the one that we had there. We have one we had at Dark Sky. That's the one I have.
>> That's the PNG one. >> I think it I'm wondering if it got mixed into someone else's return on uh >> I wasn't there. I have >> Franklin day. Yeah. So, >> we were in the in the township tent. >> Yeah. Well, that's why I'm wondering if it got might have it.
>> I asked her. She doesn't have it. So, >> make sure we get a new one. >> Yeah. I can see where it is. That I'm not sure. But yeah. We have any budget money left? >> Yes. >> Ask the printer to make a new one. >> Okay.
>> Maybe if we put hideous pink tape on it or something, nobody else will take it. >> It's fine. >> Yeah. Okay. So, I'll see if I can ask around and see if anyone has it. Like if it went to it could have went to like the
clerk's office by accident, you know what I mean? >> So I'll do an email blast. >> And if not, can with the printer make us a new one? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's really good looking. >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. >> Okay. So, I'll bring what I have over to
the library that morning >> if you can. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Or even the night before if you're busy in the morning. I'm sure you can bring it the night before. Yeah. >> Okay. And now, so I started going through my emails this morning. So I got through some of them. >> I'll do it in the morning.
>> Okay. Um, you need me to post this, right? Is that the flyer? Okay. So the flyer needs to be posted on social media, on the website, on the scrolling banner >> under events. >> Under events. Yeah. All that stuff. Okay, got it. Okay, I'll do that.
>> Um, okay. Perfect. Okay. Um, Terra, I'll give you I think you already have access to the database of contacts that I was using to send it.
>> Okay. >> Because um and I realized that uh Robin sent it to me. I have that list as well because it it was most recently updated apparently a year ago. But I uh
added some contacts to that one and I'm pretty sure that they probably already are on your master sheet because today >> Yeah. >> Uh but I will share that sheet with you and uh just I guess you want to compare what's not
there, what's is and >> um yeah, I can do that. Yeah, sure. Um, but the email blast, there was an email blast or something too, right? >> No, we didn't do anything but this. This is the only thing that went out.
>> But did it go out? It went out or no? >> Yeah, it went out. >> Oh, Stan, you did it. Okay, got it. And the sheet that I'm sending to you contains record of who uh was it sent to and because it was sent through MGO
which is app that is uh add-on to Gmail it has the tracking capab capabilities just like um constant contact or mailchip. So you have you have a column a first name, last name, email and then
you have uh the the output you have uh sent or opened or clicked. >> Fantastic. >> Or bounced or unsubscribed. >> Okay. All right. >> Because I could I was using free version. I could send only three 30
emails at a time. I have five list, five uh sheets within that um spreadsheet. >> Okay. >> Uh and uh so what you want to do, you want to pull it together back and filter those who unsubscribe
>> and um do not use them again. >> Okay. >> Do we have unsubscribe button in uh the >> Yes, you do. Yeah, in the on the website. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So you will receive two files from >> okay all right
>> which does not come to the email that I sent you before the meeting when we have the old business >> okay all right >> got it okay >> now easy or Maria do one of you guys have a printer because if you're going
to go to the event and you just it's doesn't make a lot of sense for me to drive a piece of paper over here you know what I mean like I do it. I definitely don't mind doing it, but if they're going to if you're going to print it out, like if you're going for sure. Okay. All right, that makes sense. >> Okay.
>> Who's going to send it to you? >> Science. >> Yeah. And you have a signed sheet or >> send it to you so I can >> Okay, I'll forward it to you. >> Oh, here it is. You want me to forward it or you're going to forward it to him? >> I'll send it to
I need to access. Okay, that works. >> All right. So, I think we're in good >> shape then. So, I'll I'll get that posted and stuff to like tomorrow, probably tomorrow morning. Um Okay,
great. Perfect. >> Next event is after that is Franklin Day. >> Franklin Day is coming up. Um did we talk about this at the last meeting? I can't remember. We did >> a little bit. Yeah. It's September 13th.
>> September 13th. I don't think anyone >> still in Europe >> because we haven't we didn't do anything. We just talked and >> Right. We didn't do anything. >> So yeah, >> the stuff I drop off to the library I can bring to is ever going to work as Franklin Day. >> Yes. I don't know if you guys have
anything new that you want to do there or bring there. I think Walter you had said we really should have something to give away. these when I say giveaway I mean a trifold or something like that that >> right >> so our big banner we should have the PSG
>> we have that already >> we have all that um I think >> we got more nightlights by then can PS&G get us more of those >> po possibly so they gave them out to all the participants like across the state so they don't have to kind of like you
know not giving out a whole second batch to everyone but if we have enough we can >> yeah they're coming as a speaker. Can we ask her to bring enough for us to give away at Franklin Day? >> There's about 50 maybe 60 less left of the nightlights in that in that case.
>> So tell her we'd like enough for the 28th and the 13th and we have 50. >> 50. >> Maybe another hundred. >> You might say yes. They might say no only because >> Yeah. I mean the last time I spoke to them they only have a certain amount to like distribute to everyone. So I think
they were like trying to figure out that >> Yeah. What if we invite BCNG to actually uh >> attend Franklin >> attend Franklin day have it attend and distribute stuff and >> it's a Saturday. >> Just be prepared. They say they don't
work on Saturday. >> Well, these are office shows and they come and they talk about uh uh the incentives for charging. It's a different division but I think uh they should be able to do it. These are
actually uh contractors that do it for PSENG. It's not PSNG by itself. >> They might have a booth of their own in Franklin. >> I don't know. >> They have historically so there
>> maybe now is Theo >> who could be there. >> Spotlight's on. >> I cannot. >> And you told me how to get it to work in the dark and now I can't find it. Well, I didn't bring this around. >> You don't have to do like the nightlight. You don't have to do
anything. Just plug it in. >> Just plug it in. >> Turn the lights off. >> You turn the lights off. Lights up. >> Well, I didn't know that it had to be >> the center. That center thing is just a sensor. So, it lights up. The ring lights up. >> And it's and it's a nice light. I mean,
it see. And it's only a half a watt. >> Yeah. I did reach out to D um to and the EPA to see if I can get any free materials. I haven't heard back from EPA yet. I did hear back from D that they're not giving out any printed materials.
So, they were like, "It's all on our website. You can print them and download them and all this stuff, but um I also emailed Anjack and I just haven't heard back yet from them." So, hopefully they'll also be able to give us some things. >> I can reach out again to the county and ask, remember the composter? I was able to get that for free. I think they gave
us the twice. I could ask for a third. Um, if you want me to do that. The person I used to work with there retired. So, I don't know if we're able to get We might be able to get one. >> Maybe we could get one of those tabletop games from Anjek. >> That's for Black Day.
>> Black Day. >> Have to go back to those emails. I know what I wrote. I have to >> If you go to Deie, I think she can send me to the right person. I just have to pick it up. >> Yeah. I emailed her about materials, so I just haven't heard back yet. I did. I
think she might be away, but yeah, because she's usually pretty quick, you know, >> probably. >> Yeah. So, hopefully they'll be able. >> So, we got that. Um, I have to find out who's there. When is it going to be?
>> Franklin. >> Oh, Walter was there. >> Walter was probably not the entire at least 2 hours. >> Walter, I could drop the stuff up at your house the week, you know, in the week before the 4th or something like that. >> Well, I can only spend two to three
hours, no more cuz I have other commitments on Saturday. Is >> it 11 to 3? >> Usually 10 to 3. >> 10 to 12 to 5. >> Oh, 12 to 5. >> Yeah. here at the Franklin at our >> center. Yeah. >> So, why don't you guys figure out which
two hours and you just >> It's not going to be at the park. >> No, it's here. >> No, no, it's here. >> Like if one of you opens and the other closes gazebo >> the gazebo lawn here
>> change. Ellen Ellen says she can do cuz I I live just right here to you. >> Oh, probably the back but we have to we have to collect everything again. >> The other thing I can do I don't know if
you want to do this. I can reach out to the county. I'm just trying to see what best cuz at the summer county for fair for example they do have some departments that maybe could give us some materials. So um let me look through all the departments and see what
could work. like for our purposes, you know, >> you um for just materials to hand out. If you email Green amendment, she could send you brochures and things of the amendment and I can get whoever's going that big print out I did of the
ordinance that we passed. >> Yeah, I've got that in the garage, too. >> In support of Yeah, you've got it in support of the green amendment. >> That's something you can put on a tabletop people say, "What is Franklin doing?" >> Yeah. Add that to that. Should go to the library, too, probably. I'm popping it.
Okay. >> All right. So, we have three people at least, right? >> Yeah. >> You have all the stuff. >> Have all the stuff. >> I'll reach out. I got to find out who the new person is that I can talk to about maybe potentially getting the free composter. Again,
>> I'll email Green Amendment and ask if they've got any materials. We historically have shared information from the department of health. They they had something that would be they would hand out as well as us and they they
would share it. So it would be coming from two sources. >> Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Okay. >> She's still there. Sure. >> Heidi Elliot, >> she has a sort of a hyphenated name.
Uh, anyway, >> whom? >> In the health department. >> Health department. >> She used to work at Franklin Township a long time ago before she went there. >> Maris, it sounds about like it. You know, she retired.
>> But she's not there anymore. Uh, >> all right. Well, we can try and figure like get that through them as well. So, okay, that works. >> Um, the stewardship award, we were brainstorming who might be eligible for
that or we had two two candidates. I think one would Jessica and the other one was uh who was the other one? >> The other one was >> We talked about the Yes. The board of ed.
>> Now, do the schools apply individually >> for approval? >> Sometimes schools apply individually. Yes. Yes. >> Cuz my idea was if you can find out from Sustainable Jersey,
how many points each one got and then give the award to whatever school got the most points. >> Yeah, we can do that for sure. We could absolutely do that. So that we could our first thought was giving the board of ed the award because there's quite a few schools that have sustainable jerseys or
or we can do it by the school. >> I imagine you that the schools are the ones that >> Yeah. each school does it. So >> that's why >> I think I think Ted's right. It makes much more sense because then maybe you sort of make it a competition where one
school gets it and another school wants to >> get it all. So >> maybe next time we can get another school >> and and a better chance of it filtering through to the kids that >> they're getting recognized. >> So do we definitely if we definitely
want to do that I can look up to see who got the most or you can just tell me that you know we want to give it to >> I think Franklin High School they have green fair. Yeah, but he's only one of the >> invite us. >> Great. But that's all if you want to go
on the amount of points the green fair is only one section. >> Yes, but it's >> okay. Points is one thing that again the website and there you are. >> So adorable. >> I know. Um
>> that's how we're proud that your picture taken. >> You want to go by the most points. That's points is one thing but uh we want to also stress out the collaboration with uh with other organizations particularly with
commission with us and uh because we attend their green fair >> I'm just looking for >> so I think that they should be on our high high >> they have okay so Franklin High School has 355 points
>> so keep that in There was another school I think when we looked last time that had more um >> slightly >> Pine Grove. Sorry. Now I'm in the Now I'm in the map view. Um Pine Grove, right?
>> Pine Grove. >> Only if you're in the map. Pine Grove has 405 points. >> What's the other school that's right near Pine Grove? >> It's a middle school. Franklin Middle School. >> Hillrest. Yeah,
>> they're bronze, right? >> And I think uh Samson also >> Hillrest is bronze, so they definitely don't have as many. I think it was Samson G. Smith. Here we go. Oh, they're bronze, so they don't have it either. >> Between the high school and Prime Group. >> Oh, McAfee is bronze.
>> What about Franklin Park? >> Pine Grove is silver. >> Oh, it was right there. Yeah, >> Franklin Park. They're bronze. So the middle school and Pine Brook school are silver. >> Oh, and Elizabeth AB silver.
>> So let's see. Elizabeth AB has >> 380. >> Okay. 380. Remember that. So so far Pine Grove is the >> is the winner so far. >> That's cool. >> But what was the other one you said it was? Um
>> right there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Let's just say I'm sorry I missed it. >> Franklin Middle School. >> Franklin. Oh, they're bronze. This one. Franklin Middle School. >> Middle class. Yeah. >> 350. So, the one with the highest is Pine Grove in Franklin. >> That's the I think that's the most
challenged part of the town to give them the recognition. >> Even Claremont, like Claremont is bronze. >> Somebody's working hard at Pine Grove and that's worth recognizing. >> Well, Franklin Township public schools. So they are registered. Oh no, that's
that's just like a profile. Okay. They don't get actual yet. So Pinroves the most. >> And if we do this at a council meeting, you know, maybe we'll get some kids and their parents there. That would be really nice to shine a light on them. >> Yeah.
>> Do they have green fair or >> I don't know. >> It's an elementary school. >> I don't think the green fair is not that I don't think it's important. I do think it's important, but I don't think it's the >> community garden. They had the one >> recently.
>> Yeah. >> And what's underneath school, right? >> Elizabeth. Yeah. >> So, they do community engagement. Let's see. Someone made it. Okay. So, they did something about digital learning in their handbook. Digital learning practices, digital citizenship. Let's see. Classroom.
>> Uh digital. >> Yeah. Digital innovative digital technical access. nothing hands on >> breakfast after the bell energy efficiency. So they do the um benchmarking through the energy star
program. >> The partnership looks like >> they do healthy food choices beyond the cafeteria promoting locally grown foods. They have a school garden. Oh yeah, they got they do. Yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Yep. Then they did
>> that goes well way back. >> Yeah. Then they did a family engagement survey. It looks like um focused on culturally and linguistically responsive pedagogy, anti-racism, equity, literacy, school.
>> Uh they also do an I steam collaborative units of study. Oh, look. They look designing solar ovens, evaluating a landscape, um making rockets, all arts disciplines, outdoor classroom.
That's pretty cool. Uh, student participation in the arts, inclusive environments where all can thrive, school culture, student greens. Okay, they like our green team. >> Let's see what their volunteer initiative is. Uh, they work with the
food bank it looks like throughout the year. Um, that's basically the big thing is they work for the food bank. >> Yeah. >> Enrichment programs. They have partnerships. the YMCA. >> Fair. Look, >> there's a green fair.
>> When was it? >> Uh, it must be this, I guess. Let's look on it and see. >> I think that's our winner. >> Pine Grove and Ice. Steam night. Let's see. I hate I hate when it's
>> competition and steam nights. >> What was it called though? >> That was from no that article November 17th, 2023. When was the actual night? Uh oh. Anybody see a date on this? Here's the schedule.
No. All right. Keep scrolling. There's more pictures. April 17th, 2024 talented bio. >> Yeah, looks pretty nice. >> So, >> well, maybe we could start the relationship this way.
>> Then they have look at this education for sustainability and prek. That's important. policies to promote physical activity, staff wellness program, recycling non-mandated materials. So, they do upcycle with terraycle.
Um, oh, here's a collection. Let's just for fun. Drink pouches. They got 25 lbs. It looks like snack pouches 10 lb. Three units of that. Two.
Okay. Sauce packets. any brand of empty sauce package and containers. That's pretty good. So, okay. So, if that if everyone's set on that, I mean, it would be good if we could also pick the person at this one because then I can do the video or the
trophy, figure out when we can get on the agenda. Like, it takes a little bit of logistics, you know. Um, so I'm going to write this down. We can vote on it. Yeah, >> we usually do the awards at the second council meeting in November,
>> right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, somebody should call Dr. Ravali and say, "We want to do this." >> Who's the first key person in Pine Grove, >> right? Absolutely. >> And make sure Ravali knows we're doing this. November. >> November 17th.
No, that's what the sec the council that they meet on Tuesdays. Tuesday. Yeah. It'll >> be the 18th. 18th November, >> second and fourth will be the second and fourth. >> Well, actually, we better check because
between the League of Municipalities and Thanksgiving, it >> the scheduling is different >> cuz the 11th is Veterans Day >> and elections. >> The election, that's the fourth. >> The fourth is election.
>> It's not that. >> All right. November, right? Uh, when am I in September? October. Okay. >> Check. But then Maria >> November. Yeah, that is good. That gives
me time. So, the November meeting, it looks like it's onth the 10th, which is a Monday probably because of >> We don't have a meeting this week. >> The municipalities. Yep. And then we got November 25th. So that's when it would be the November
25th. >> The week of Thanksgiving. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The week of Thanksgiving. >> That would work. >> Yeah. >> So who's going to call Dr. Ravali? >> Well, first so we have to vote on this first if it's definitely in and then
>> who I would assume Paul or unless someone else knows him. >> Dr. Okay. introduce yourself and let me know. >> Um I can reach out to >> so we can do them separately if everyone wants to do a vote on Pine Grove now or
if you want to um talk about Jessica or if anyone else has another uh recommendation. >> What's the story with the warehouse application for >> um sad farm? Yes,
>> we just talked about that last time. It's still there's no work been done. There's still a sign up. Yeah, we talked about that at the last one. >> I'm so hopeful. >> Pine Grove Manor. The other one that came up at last meeting was Jessica Johnson, right? >> Oh, that was the other one. Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, I don't know if anyone has any other like um I I move we approve both of those. Pine Grove and Jessica one. All >> in favor? I This is not to be published.
>> We should go to executive session then. >> Yeah. And when I do send out the minutes to our >> former members, I'll have to >> make it something slightly
two awardees >> without naming them. >> Yeah. That's okay. Committee reports. We've got that done. Okay. Any committee reports? Uh Maria,
you were on already. You have anything more you want to add? >> I I'll talk about um energy and infrastructure is one of our >> right >> um committees. I think I'm I put in an email to Tara at least that I've been in touch with United about doing a program
on sustainable aviation fuel. And I had a wonderful conversation with this woman um three weeks ago and we were supposed to speak again on Friday and she never called me. So I'm very disappointed. >> Yeah. >> I've sent her an email. I'll send her another one. Um but she was very
interested. She wanted to know, you know, what hats I was wearing in addition to the Franklin. And I told her I had these others because I think if I can get more of a statewide appeal, we might get more out of United. Um, so I will stick with that. I'm can
be politely persistent and see if we And I said to her maybe mid November or late February, early March were the time frames I had in mind. So at this point, I think it would be early March. >> Um, so as long as we stay away from Easter
>> um, and have plenty of time to promote this and do this with the Franklin Aviation Club. >> Yeah, that would be great. who many of you met when she came here to speak to us. So that's still in the works. I um I have inquiry um recently I met a
friend who is Franklin resident um asking me for some tips on proper um composting and uh I realize I'm actually not the best person but we have a person here who is uh knowledgeable
about composting. Do you think that we could have an event, educational event about residential composting? >> No. >> I'll have to dig up all my notes. >> You gave me a package. >> I know that. Okay. Walter's got the >> I know where that is. I saw it the other day.
>> I had that for last year. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I Yeah, I would love that. >> Do you need that back? I'll give it back to you for that. >> No, no, no, no. I I'll go maybe I can go back and look in my scent folder, which my email is full, but uh yeah, I have
it. Yeah, composting is kind of close to my heart. I'm not the maybe the most knowledgeable person, but you know, I I've gleaned a lot over the years. We can get somebody from the county to speak because the countyy's got a whole
I want to go back and look at my notes and see who we contacted back then. >> And Rucker Cooperative Extension, >> Ruters Department of Environment, >> the cooperative extension used to have some >> I know composting. I learned from them.
>> Yeah, they used to have somebody on staff that did presentations like that. And >> so we Yeah, we went to Terray Cycles launch party. We we were over in the Cook uh the Taylor Road building. That was where we had the the not for-p
profofit had the office. But yeah, I want to go back and look at my notes. I always like to think to go to Ruters to find out who knows, you know, about these things >> and the sustainability summit. I went to the presentation put on by Monroe Township and their recycling program. I
was blown away, literally blown away by how much they're doing. and they have someone a full-time employee that does that for Monroe Township. And I think you could call her and introduce yourself as a member of the Franklin Environmental Commission that you heard
from a fellow commissioner about her presentation at sustainable at the sustainability summit and um ask her just to talk with you and see if maybe she could come and speak because when I heard all that they were doing
and the money they're making. >> How are they making money? because they're selling some of what they're getting. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> To the point now that they've, you know, her job started out as this little part-time thing and they're making enough money to support a building and a
salary >> and Monroe is a lot smaller than Franklin >> terms of population. So, she was very approachable, very easy to talk to. I I try looking on their website. If you can't find it, I'll see if I have anything in my notes. So, do they have
residential collection system or how? >> People brought it to her and they do enough that they're actually making money on it. >> Well, yeah. I mean, I do my own little kitchen weight compost thing. The president of my association.
>> I'm right by the woods. Somebody threw a whole watermelon o over near where I feed the birds and I take my compost out. I guess they're getting the idea. and in a matter of days it was gone. >> So, so that's uh what I wanted to
suggest. Um >> okay. Um >> um I don't know whether this is the time but uh uh last time I was reporting that New Jersey electric vehicle association will have meetup in Colonial Park. So uh
Tara if I can ask you to project few images that I sent you about 6:30. Uh yes um Ted was present uh we had um about 70 people present
and uh the part of it was kilow kilowatt cookout. It was the demonstration how energy from electric vehicles can be taken out for uh other for cooking for refrigeration for for charging another vehicle. The person that you have seen
on the previous picture is the vice president of National Electric Vehicle Association, Kate Krook. She came from Skenctity in New York. >> So that we were very very uh happy that she came. Uh this is the alley with uh with electric vehicles um that were
dispensing energy and in this picture her vehicle that Kia the black vehicle is being charged from Lucid. >> Oh wow. >> Uh so um and this was a a cyber truck pizza truck that uh was making pizza
from the energy in the battery. Um on some other pictures you will be able to see a little bit more of it. Look at that. >> You see this is uh uh the rear of the truck, the one truck and another truck. And uh actually no, this is the this is
the S and this is the rear. And it looks like those brands that fold up and and uh uh when I asked why they picked Cybertruck, uh because kind of my pun intended was why didn't he pick something that Elon Musk didn't have an
association with? And he said that Cybertruck has automatic leveling and to make good pizza they need to have perfect >> they need to have leveling. So this is this is the guy who
>> made it the pizza >> and behind >> uh Ashley she's the the girl in on the right side. she was uh our organizer and the lady behind that's Pam Frank. She's
the chair or or CEO of Charc which is the national nonprofit not national New Jersey nonprofit that is advocating for the policy for electric vehicles. >> So yeah, this is another picture of the
Lucid dispensing energy for for Pia. So that's the owner of the vehicle and uh just scroll fast to the um overall picture. I was doing test drive uh when there were all of us kind of line up.
This this guy who was Yeah. >> Go back. >> No, no, no. Just just >> like that car. >> Yeah. So this one this is kind of all of us. Uh um at some point some people already left at that moment, but uh uh Ted, you are uh
here. >> Here he is. >> Right. That's me. Um that's Ashley uh who organized the whole event. This is Kate Crook. Uh Mike Hornsby. He is our instructor for the first responder uh EV awareness
program. Uh we will have actually event tomorrow. he will be doing instruction uh and so and so on. Lots of people. >> Congratulations D. >> Yeah. So >> uh we are uh making trying to make more
impact in our community and >> that's nice. >> It's uh it's becoming more difficult because uh uh the administration is not favoring >> well anything that makes sense for >> on that topic. I saw I got an email
today, yesterday, that the DP is um and maybe through the VPU, they're releasing new um funding. They're taking applications for DC chargers, fast DC chargers, $100,000 per. >> So, and it's for community and corridor
locations. >> Okay, >> the net funding has been released again. So, if we know of anybody, any businesses in Franklin that would be a worthy business or a notfor-profit that would qualify as either a community
location or a corridor location, we should encourage them because the more fast chargers we have in town, the better for all of us. Um >> well I've always said the good place to have one would be right at exit 12 from 287
when they were actually it was when they were before the historic commission the there's a 7-Eleven or something like that there and I told them they ought to have a fast charger there. All right. >> Well, there's there's a bucket of money
for the charger and apparently you go direct to the BPU for work >> or or PSEG. I forget which. But it seems to me the the closest fast charger to me is on route one. Um not too far from we have fast
charging on 27 exit 13 at Target. >> Yeah. But that's not in Franklin. >> No, I'm I'm talking about New Jersey. >> Yes. So wouldn't it be on Franklin? >> Franklin is we're 50 square miles. If anybody can think of a not for profofit
or a business on 27 >> 27 is not the best place for fast chargers. We need to have them on highways. >> 27 is a highway. >> No, it's a small They're most attractive if if they're
adjacent to a an interstate highway. >> Yes. or or or be near Route One. >> Mhm. >> We're in Route One is a very busy place >> and it's the >> But it doesn't run through Franklin. >> No, but it's a mile off of Franklin.
>> And >> I just think it's it there's an opportunity out there and I'd love to see somebody take advantage of it. It >> it's odd that there used to be a lot of gas stations along Route One and almost all of them have gone away.
The the one that I know of is at the Quick Check U which is technically North Brunswick. No, it's >> Yeah, I know where it is. >> Right near where Avenue comes out. >> Yeah, that's
>> Yeah, >> but there are many of us who who might need a fast charge that aren't on an interstate. You could still be home and need a fast charge. Mhm. >> No, if you're not at home, you pack it at home. >> Yeah. But what if for one reason or another you can't or you
>> you don't have all charge is not a good solution because it's always more expensive. It doesn't change the equity market. >> I agree. But if you're in a hurry and you need it to have fast charges nearby
people feel comfortable having an EV. Well, I trying to think of what's near exit 10. The canal road exit west. >> Exit 10 would be another option. We have two or three gas stations there. Uh the
new one and the ex zone. >> What is right at the corner of Cedar Grove? >> Yes. >> No, that that that's 12 is Cedar Grove, I think. No, he's 10. >> Maybe it's the other way around then.
>> 12 is Canal Road and 10 is Cro. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's where we really ought to have one. >> And that's real money. And anyway, somebody will get it whether it's in Franklin. >> The motel would there's a motel right
down the corner. Be an ideal spot. >> What's the um place where they have events there? Um uh not Maragold but um >> Imperia. >> Imperia. >> Yeah. >> Place like that.
>> Houston. Yeah. >> Well, just spread the word if you're aware of location. Somebody should have gone >> that section of inter the intersection of Cedar Grove. U that that has the unbottled the liquor store. I think that that that would be uh if if if the
wiring is somewhere near there it would be good sport because they have fast food there >> and every time you have fast charging you want to have refreshments. >> Yes. >> And no there is lots of business there's lots of business associated with
charging. Um uh the competitor uh is is that Target charging as I mentioned it's not in Franklin but from global viewpoint you know this is where people go today and that location is notically known for having not enough stalls they
have three stalls and many times u only one is working or two people are standing in the line. Uh so um if in our town the exit 10 is the only place where I would envision viable meaningful DC
fast charging. Anyway, um we I think >> that completes the committee reports. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any hot hot topics? We've gone through a lot of odds and ends. Well, just um on this subject of NJPAC reel,
which are the proposed regs for storm water management that mostly affect coastline but some inland. I have successfully managed to pull off this to plan this meeting on September 10th where I'm getting three different insurance organizations
and anjek watershed institute and the league of conservation voters for lunch. >> Oh, good. and help the insurance organizations understand what these rags do because all three of them signed on as opposed to the rags
>> um to the DP. Two of the three signed on pardon and then the business and industry association signed on to being opposed to um the legislature and the governor. So, we're hoping we can help at least the insurance industry understand that this is not a bad thing.
It's actually a good thing. So by the time I see you again, we will have had that lunch and pretty good. >> Think a good thought that we make some headway. At least they'll have had a good meal. >> Yeah, it's a stage. So >> Oh, yeah.
>> Great. >> Well, we're up to old and I started with Skip the Stuff. >> Yeah, >> that's the opening remarks. The only update I have on that is I did reach out to the county print shop and so they can do um
I just lost my train of thought. I'm sorry. Give me Oh, yes. They can do the printing of the 100 sheets for My computer's like kind of acting up. Okay. $125. So the other one was 200. So that's a savings for sure.
>> What was 200 for both? That was It was 215 for the decals and I think it was actually 250 for the signs. Yes, because it's exactly half. >> Which sign you're talking about? >> Uh the it's the um basically like the paper that the restaurant will put on
that says like why are we doing this and what it is? Yeah. So, um so I did go ahead and order the signs from the county print shop and the decals from the the other one. So instead of being
250 + 215 is 465, right? Um it's going to be 215 + 125. >> When is the next chamber meeting? We got to start talking to the chamber about this. It's the third Thursday or the second Thursday. Do you remember?
>> I have to and I heard on the radio um related to this McDonald's. It's McDonald's. Yes. They used to give two or three um dips for the chicken nuggets, right?
>> And now they're charging 22 22 cents for an additional one >> as a way to reduce >> the plastic. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Make money. >> You need to reduce the plastic or way more money.
>> Well, there's always this is the United States. >> Capitalism. But yeah, so so I went ahead and did the PO for those. So those are being worked on. >> Send me whatever you have because if I can sneak in, I'm going to tell them we
want to get the word out to the businesses in town. >> Yeah. >> That this is that will stop people have >> and we're going to go all go knocking on doors and encourage businesses to participate >> and give them recognition on the website. >> Absolutely. Yep.
>> Might be a good idea to alert Christa. First, I have to have her set up the website. So, I don't have anything in yet. So, you know, they're being ordered, but in the meantime, we can definitely set up a page on our website and and do that. Yep, absolutely. >> There's um where else takeout right in
um Squash Road in Elizabeth. There's a bunch of food places in there. >> Yeah. Well, we're starting off that we talked about last time. We're starting off, we ordered a hundred, right? So, we probably do want to identify um >> we're 27. >> Yeah. Like where should be the first
round and then if we need to order more, we order more. You know, >> is right in the topic say where Wells Fargo is. >> Any of the fast food places for sure. Yeah. >> And ones that are part of chains are going to do like I said, they will be
they can report back to the owners. Exactly. Exactly. So, that's the latest. >> There's a Subway shop there, too, in the >> in that other shopping center. There's a Subway. There's a uh
>> Habibs, and there's Kettleman's. There's three of those right in that one. >> That'll keep you busy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I've been to all. You notice the ones I've been to? >> Dunkin Donuts. >> Oh, yeah. There's a Dunkin Donut. That place is amazing. >> Well, even where Jersey Mike is, where
you were, there's Starbucks somewhere else in there. >> There's a pizza at the other end. >> There's a >> Some of them may need corporate permission to put anything up. It's corporate material. >> Yeah.
>> Okay, that's that. >> Lights out event. >> So, I know Maria's been working on the other thing and I didn't get to speak to Bob Warler yet because he comes back tomorrow. So when he comes back tomorrow, I will maybe not tomorrow, but the next day. I'll wait till the next
day. Yeah. To talk to him. Yeah. >> You want to ask him about the tree ordinance? >> Yes, I will. I will. >> And if he says no, he's no, it's okay. Just trying. Absolutely. >> And also ask him about the dark sky ordinance.
>> About the dark sky ordinance. >> The lighting. Yes. You might ask him about the the tree maintenance plan. >> Right. Well, I think the Shade Tree Commission reviewed it. Didn't you say at the last meeting o open space meeting you guys reviewed a draft or was that? >> We reviewed one back in I think it was
October and November or something and we sent it back to them and >> and you haven't heard anything back since. >> Yeah. >> Jeez. >> Cuz sometimes I think that this is a process to keep from >> Yes. >> trees from being planted by just
extending this indefinitely. Wasn't that >> government at its best? >> Wasn't that an effort to get them to raise the $300 up a little bit? >> No, the ordinance was the the tree replacement part of it.
>> I mean, they it has been raised. Um I forget it was the 310 315. >> Oh, it did go up. Well, but when we saw that that's what it went up, the sha tree commission sent the
communication back to the engineer saying, "Well, our research shows that substantially more than that." Um, and I don't believe we've heard back from them after that. >> Okay. What's happening with the youth
member and nothing? I haven't got any, you know, feedback on that. >> How do we define youth? >> High school. >> I think it was >> 75. >> I think it 75. >> I think we were saying high school. >> High school. >> Yeah. >> So to have a college student, we don't
need a change to the ordinance. >> We do. Apparently we do according to >> So youth is not high school. Youth is older. >> Youth is older. But at that point they would just be a member. >> Right. So that's my point to your point. a college student, we don't need to change you. >> No, we
>> No, they would just they would have to have something to appoint a non voting member. >> Yes. Right. >> Whatever they're a volunteer, >> they can be a volunteer if it's not a youth member. But if we're specifically looking for a youth member, Yeah. we need a
>> But if we want a college student to be a volunteer or if we want a college student to be a member of >> Oh, yeah. As long as they're over 18, they >> go through the normal process. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. Because Tara got interned many times, right? And when you
have it labeled as a intern, oh, fine, right? But >> yeah, >> maybe if we have the definition a little bit more inclusive, >> but maybe without voting, you know, >> that would require a change to the ordinance to appoint a non- voting
member. >> But we could try to get if there's a vacancy. >> It doesn't be that hard because the enabling legislation allows for it. >> It does. Yeah. No. And we can absolutely change the ordinance for sure. It's just to get a youth member on, we have to change the ordinance. And that was what
we were talking to the council member. >> Paid intern? Well, I've had an intern. No, they're not paid. >> They get five credits, >> but they're only on. They're not a me. They're not They're working through a class like four here. So, it's it's through the college. So, they're not
really a volunteer or a member. >> Oh, they get credits. They get five credits to do the internship, which is a lot. So that's the benefit to them. Yeah. >> Yep. Five credit. >> Five credits for is that one semester? >> One semester for an internship. Yep.
>> It's pretty good. >> That's really good, right? >> A lot of credits. >> They're paying the school to come here and work for >> Yeah. >> I have one more uh announcement, right? as if I didn't talk about electric
vehicles enough. Uh but this relates to Franklin because uh we had EV show yesterday Sunday in Matachin >> and uh electric vehicle from the Franklin police department participated. >> Oh
>> right. So we have here uh the uh Ford uh Mustang Mac E and we asked whether they could bring vehicle for display because Matachan is contemplating to buy electric uh vehicle for the police fleet. So we wanted to to bring it on
and yeah >> can I can I bring up one more thought on the fast chargers? I I understand that it makes a lot of sense where people are on the highway because a lot of people can plug in at home, but all the people in Franklin or North Brunswick or South
Brunswick that live in condos or apartments don't have a place to charge at home and for them a fast charger makes sense. No no for for them there is a program from uh BPU and from PSNG to
install regular level two charger in their community and this is the best charging because it doesn't stress the grid >> and it is inherently cheaper energy. >> Yes, I agree. >> So this is better and and you charge as you are enjoying yourself. If you go to
fast charging you have to wait. That's not good for uh promoting electric vehicle. Stan, I'm not arguing with you, but if you live in an apartment or you live in a townhouse, you don't control the board. >> Yes, I know. >> I've been trying to get Society Hill in Franklin Park to pay attention to this
and do this. The board keeps voting it down. >> Oh, >> so to me it seems if I were a company that or I had a piece of real estate where a fast charger might make sense, I might make money because that area is surrounded by town homes. I have to be
patient because you know how the EVs are politicized and so we we have enough to electrify our privileged demographic that have single owned uh homes. Uh and then you have
lots of town houses that they may seem like a not privileged but if they have at least driveway you have your designated >> but most of them don't. No, I I was looking into our map. We have most of people they have at least driveway and
they can they can uh uh install low speed uh charging without even um making power. >> If you drive through Society Hill and Franklin Park, they don't they park on the street and they walk into their car. >> Yes. That that that will be the example.
>> And all those people until they have a place to charge are not going to buy an EV. Well, even if you give them that opportunity, many people would not because they do not have the mental capacity to to understand it. >> That's not fair. These are people that
own a condominium in in Franklin Park. >> Yes. I have cousins that live there and they've got mental capacity to understand EVs. Yes, they do. >> Yes. >> Yes. Fine. I'm sorry I misspoke, but uh >> you're helping you're helping me
understand, but I think there's more to it. And in in terms of people's convenience, I think fast charging can get some people to buy an EV that they wouldn't have. I mean, I live I live in a condo. It's, you know, what not homes, but Cal Homes was, I think, the big
developer of single family homes, town homes, and condos. My board has in the past just briefly touched upon, do we want to get Chargers? We have limited parking. Somehow the property manager thinks in my condo community we have two
spaces per unit. We don't. I've counted them several times. She's wrong. It's like where you where are we going to sacrifice a space for a charger or two? And who's not going to just sit there and let it sit overnight and nobody else
gets to use it? That's that's the that's the actual living in a condo. >> Understanding how it works. You want to have charger that is surrounded by several parking spots. Instead of instead of moving cars, you just move the car. >> Well, no. I understand. You don't live
in a condo community. I do. Parking is limited. We do not assign parking spaces. So, if we would do that, it would be a logistical problem. I don't know about town homes. The town homes near me, they don't have driveways, you
know, they have again the parking. Some communities assign parking, others don't. We don't have spaces to spare. >> I hate to say it, we don't even have handicap spaces. >> Again, I I'm I'm what I'm trying to say is that the way how I would propose the
the charging that you do not designate space that now this is only for electric vehicle. You want to have a charger that is servicing >> several. >> Yeah. Because the core is long enough, >> right? So the electric vehicle can park
here, here, here, here. And and you do not want to say that now you have uh this one spot designated only for electric vehicles, but but you need to have a little bit two hands. You don't want to install any charging in in area
where you're electric. >> Important element, the human element. My neighbors, >> they don't want to do They don't want to change. They don't can't even recycle. They can't even source separate. And you're and they're going
to start sharing. I'm sorry. That's going to take a lot of education. >> But that's the thing. If they if if these people are not seeking to buy electric vehicle, these are just not the customers. >> Maybe you know, Shopright, maybe the guy who owns the 30 Shop right shop right
stop and shops in the area. You put one of those in those big parking lots. >> Yeah. >> That's what I was thinking before. to shop right on uh by Elizabeth Avenue >> because if you're in there, you know, half hour, 45 minutes, >> right? Go to the stop and shop on in
Franklin Park on 47. >> Yep. >> The one on Eastern Avenue has one. >> Yes. Yes. >> None of the other fast food Wendy's, Taco Bell. None of those have it, but >> we have mainly level twos. We have one
one set of two fast charges over at the small club clubhouse. The bigger >> What about the diner? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Place like the diner could definitely work. Yeah. I think right infrastructure. >> All right. I'm going to come
to church is where you >> I'm skipping the public comment. So let me do that. You want to chime in? [Music]