in accordance with the open public meeting Act of the state of New Jersey adequate notice of this meeting of the Franklin Township environmental commission was made by posting on the bullet board in the municipal building posted on the Township's website and electronically transmitted to the
officially designated newspapers indicating that this meeting would take place in person at 700 p.m. in the municipal building on March so next we do a roll call and um Walter is not
here he may be here yet uh Ted Chase here e St yes Rob Ellen yes is here it is not uh report from the I had actually
wrote it out but I can't find it had to bring it with me two things just an update on the Onyx um application that we've reviewed which had been postponed scheduled for April 2nd evidently planning board didn't did not meet in
March this is the one where they want to build the warehouse um in the area on between New Brunswick and old New Brunswick Road across from the chop right and it's what the pipelines running through the building that are going to be right at the edge of the building and the somerset run has been
fighting that one as Canal Walk for B9 but this one I think has less of a chance of getting approved because um Buckeye owns the pipeline and they're not happy the regulation says the building should be 100 ft from the
pipeline they went they did back it off it was 21 ft now they're at 40 ft but they're also bringing in 3 ft of HP soil which means to the the Buckeye pipeline if they have to repair or go into the pipeline they got to dig deeper and that
means they got to put Shoring on the thing it's a whole big deal and they don't want to have to do that so they're they're not happy there's also no way to get tractor trailer trucks in that you can't make a turn from the Brunswick and old Brunswick part of it
is a private road and you need an easement and I don't think they're going to get an e why would they need to get tractor trailers it's a warehouse they need oh okay I just want you to clarify that warehouse what El would have thing as Mark he said it's one of the
worst ones he's ever seen Walter oh here's Walter good okay the other thing I wanted to do is I wanted to thank Tara for the annual report it really is great and like covered all you I down the minutes thank you so much
I appreciate it I'm sure there's some tweaks to be made but yeah closer yeah so that that was thank you that's it I got easy easy um approve of the minutes of the March 3rd meeting
so move anybody have any comments or changes or suggestions nothing Maria no oh Maria does I could but I won't just um SP of my of the report
that we presented um we mentioned that uh Ellen is working on a presentation on compost for the fall oh okay only thing oh it's not in there okay Ellen's working on uh comp
composting Workshop you said right okay got an outline flushing it out I've got references I'm waiting for final approval from Anthony wo that he's got the insurance locked in once once he's got the insurance locked in we'll start with Canal War we got people ready to go
but he's got to have that insurance certificate that's great paragraphs three line three there is just typle instead of websites this paragraph 3 line three yeah
W thank you Stan that was the one that I was not going to talk I didn't want to be the bad guy okay got it that's okay I found the typo in the in the annual report yes not the only one yes there's always
something thank you shouldn't do well I had a whole list comments I forgot to bring there really minor oh yeah absolutely yeah the biggest thing is why don't you
use periods at the end of sentences you know I don't know because it's a PowerPoint prese it's but it's a report you're right and I kept going I sometimes I put period sometimes I didn't So eventually I took them all out but I think I I guess I should put them back in if sentences with the subject
there should be yeah you're right there are some things that aren't yeah I agree you're right y I'll change it yeah points you allowed not to skip period yeah I wasn't sure yeah well you know
what this power this PowerPoint like acts as a report so yeah so it's I was like I don't know does it look weird with the period I'm not sure so yes but I think that's a good that's true you do a lot of power points with those per it's just yeah it's weird but yes those
are yeah send me those when you have them the comments I can make them well the biggest other one was in save till save the mowing till Earth Day till should have two Ls it
should ah see I want back and on that too one L but if it's just till it's two L's Oh I thought it was short for until so that's why I say apost t no oh okay the spell check was telling me this is
wrong and I was no it's not you can you can till the soil right yes that's why I was like it's short for until you would think it would just be the one L right but I'll fix that too I I've written it that way also we send me in when you're ready
yeah okay all right so we have those two comments we have the yeah there's no other comments I'll accept I'll accept the minutes as these have been so entertaining why stop you
know well let see happens I'll open now for a vote to open the floor to public comment move second any public comments I have a question um so I guess it's been almost two years J Brand 22 Bryant Court um
guess it's been almost two years since you all made the um the rule about the trees and more money into the tree fund and whatnot I'm just wondering the the results of that have you noticed um less buildings cutting down trees or has
there I guess increased the money that you have in your funding for the the trees it's interesting one of the things that we uh reviewed last last week where they were going to have a deficit of 140 trees in the redo I noticed they're
planting 140 trees so either I missed it the first time or they didn't have it in and now put it in because they don't tell us what changes and I didn't go back and look at the old one so that that that was one exactly right but Stan have you heard anything from the from
the have you heard have you heard right doing that everybody stri about the trees sh tree commission about as
Jan ask the question again please I thought you were talking to morning so just I'm wondering you know you made that great you know resolution or whatever you want you know about the tree fund and people having to pay more money into it and I'm just wondering it's been I think probably
almost two years I'm not sure and I'm just wondering if it's you know made a difference with how much money now you have in your fund or with people not taking down as many trees as before I can say that I don't know if it's made a difference in whether people take down
as many trees or not I can say that there is more money in the tree fund a lot more money in the tree fund because of it and I can also say that the shade tree commission just requested that the township again
review how much trees cost to see if that needs to be changed again could go up could go down don't know but the last time they um it was reviewed I believe was in 20223 2023 okay
23 yeah it's supposed to be done annually in the ordinance that it's supposed to be done annually so we had to remind them that they did not do it in 2024 so they're we reminded them just recently from that came up at our last
shade tree meeting a couple weeks ago Stan as I remember it's $300 a tree at this point yeah Stan is it I did that yes yes it was $30 a tree and now it's uh it was 30 and now it's 300
right guess we need to spend money on comment from the public motion to close the public move okay business yes correspondence um I did receive one
email and it is from uh well actually so I really received two emails but this one is from karav Ma and he is a student that is working with um hold on I want to get the right
scroll down I the right name here uh okay he's reaching out to schedule conversation to learn more about our work he's the lead of his school's applied research and photography club and speaking with someone from our commission will provide valuable Insight
um with someone for the commission be available for a brief Zoom or phone call I would greatly appreciate hearing from you and he's from Bridgewater Ron High School class of 2027 yeah where the hell it is he's a what is he he's a sophomore yeah
sophomore sophomore yeah I don't mind speaking with them I just want to put it out there in case somebody else did he's just interested in learning like what do we do as a commission what are our goals what do we work on is he related to Franklin he's from Bridgewater Ron he's
a student send him the annual report that should answer all his questions yeah that's true I could do that I could forward them to to um Bridgewater I can for Bridgewater but I don't mind speaking to him unless someone else wants to
environmental Commission in I believe they do do but um what was his last name his last name is meta I believe hold on let it's m eh h t meta so I can reach back out to it I'll I'll either speak to
him or I will send him the report or I'll forward him to Bridgewater one or the other um and then we also received another similar request I'm just trying to find where it is I started writing the person back um um another student
basically you know what this came to my regular this came to my regular a this one here we go and this is from a student and I'm sure I'm his name is vhan a and he is a student at votek
doing a project regarding the UN sustainable development goals specifically we are researching environmental issues and wanted to get in contact with someone working for Franklin for a possible interview about what the township is doing to work on sustainability so again I'll speak to him but Mar I figured I don't know maybe
you want to speak to him I don't know if you know this person from votek or not I don't know if you know him he's from votek oh he might be a student from the academy yeah okay oh I can speak to him or unless you want me to forward it to him since you're there at votek maybe you can speak to him during this I don't
know me the email for you okay is that person from Franklin does he I don't know that I don't know he goes to vot he goes to vot who runs the the the UN model in the school is a Spanish teacher um Mr Raina so I'm
G to send it to you Maria everybody votch from Frankin if you're from Somerset County you can go to votch he can be anywhere in the county he could be anywhere in the count anywhere in the county right yeah yeah all right so then Maria I'll send
that to you which I just did correspondence um side plans I hear we we have a few but they'll be quick we have a few so um I'll do the one that I did which was the bigger one then we have two smaller ones which is simple so
I worked on the lon resubmittal so this was um sent to us a while back um it came in as a zoning board application and then they were able to resolve it so that they no longer need variances they
made some changes at work with the planning board and now um it's a planning board application so uh let me just get my my gldc up here so I'll just give you some background on it so it it
is on Route 27 the exact address is I think it's 133 Route 27 I'll show you the map in one second oh that's the one by Veronica yes is off of Veron by Veronica yep um it's 1677 Acres total uh
they are looking to put two 75,000 ft² warehouses so they're two separate buildings 75,000 ft each um the uh access so I'm sorry let me back up of that 75,000
73350 Square ft would be the warehouse space 1,330 would be office space and 320 ft would be electrical room uh the site will have 275 parking spaces 62 loading birs and four drive up ramps the
access is proposed via a crosssection access from the approved Warehouse development already existing in the block to the north so I this really I'm sorry to the West really to the to yeah it it is it's eventually
there's access out to Veronica you're right the access goes out to Veronica I'm going to put up the bigger map in a second but this here is Bennett's Lane just for your reference this is the site we're talking about right here um and this is the site here that they want to put the access through that's the
different already the the big white Warehouse there already has the access right right uh let me turn this off C short we actually the planning board actually heard this last Wednesday they did hear it okay so Christine told me
that they were not going to hear it until this upcoming one no but you heard it yeah and it's not completely final the main thing is that John house
recommended more than recommended that they have an emergency access from loot 27 so that makes sense and I've actually been to the site and looked at it as to
where and I if you put up the map again next to Subaru dealers you got it on the map hang on that was I was looking at the flood planes there before um well I was going to say you
can see but now you can't if you so so zo that there's a couple of points of you know sort of tails of lots that go out to 27 oh yeah you're
right I think the next to subar small one there's actually a driveway to a house on the lot next to it enters on that and on the left hand side and you
can pretty much see in the picture actually you don't quite there there are there's a line of Arbor trees along the property line I think they're on the lot next to it okay so the point
is that they can have their d way there and it's better there because there's a height differential further to the right further to the north okay behind the
other one because there's actually a great big pile of Earth somewhat grown up with trees at that edge of the property most of which is in what they will be developed okay sensitivity to
the fact that um the line between the bi Zone and the opt Zone uh runs across well where the the Tails stick
out and other like this way like this oh the attorney who is Doug wolson Jack Morris's attorney um call I guess some jack
Norr is very sensitive to not uh raising any zoning questions that might force them back to the board of adjustment right right but the PO the planing board well mainly Mike lini and
lawyer agreed that a emergency access mandated by the town would not constitute development in the opt Zone okay all right it's not really not using
the opt zone for freestanding development just the emergency access so that was really the that was it CU they had a report from us dated January 3rd so it wasn't that long
ago and they so they had our report and then I was asked to review it again and I kept being like I I sent a report not too unless they did a quick resubmission that was insignificant can you remind us location of those two warehouses on the map uh yes
so they're in this section right T am I correct they're down in this section and I'm going to tell you because to the more northwesterly part the left F part of this picture is um it is all
actually uh stream buffer and and they will have a detention Basin above these trees and and then just retain the woods in the upper left corner there well
there's not much Woods there some Woods there and the board was quite insistent that they keep the trees that are along the Zone border with the R40 Zone they will keep
that detention Bas yeah the detention basins are here and keeping these trees the bo was quite insistent on and you can see this
some Woods here uh also we recommended that they Bank some of the parking places they were asking for almost twice as many parking places as required excuse was well maybe
there'll be several uses Each of which have they could also contemplate maybe connection to uh let's see they said that they they couldn't keep the trees along that either side of the building so the two
buildings are next to each other and the paring is the left of building a and the right I'll show you the site plan Trail the he showing and the trees EV to the there
shop by which time the Stop and Shop will have closed they report of January 3rd already from the last I don't think there was anything different cuz I was trying to compare my old report and my new report so that's probably why they didn't need me to review it again so
that makes sense so it looks like we already reviewed this and submitted a report on it and the planning boards are ready and the planning board okay all right so that's okay so we have one uh we have two other ones that are should be relatively simple tah could I ask a
question just hearing about I mean I don't really like warehouses but trying to keep an open mind I think you mentioned the size of the building so many square feet what's the square footage of all the impervious surface the so of all the impervious surface it
is percentage of that is the problem so the impervious coverage right now is around it's it I believe it's well L back up in the bone you're allowed to have 60% impervious coverage um and they're within that because they're not requesting a Ian I believe they're right
below it it's like 58.5 somewhere around there um the total acreage proposed for development on the site is 618 552 now some of that is pervious pavement some of it is a reconstructed Wetland some of it is uh they are doing a lot of green
infrastructure strategies which is great one thing that they are not required to do is do the solar roof um or the Make Ready solar roof because the law says that it's for buildings of 100,000 ft Fe or more and there are two buildings at 75 each but we recommended that in our
report that they should still do it I you know decided not we didn't right I don't think we got anything from them on maybe they'll make it trying to remember when they'll make it solar ready that would be nice this one we got
in here to yeah they not Reed we receed this one here it's Dale Enterprises is that the one on 27 uh hang on one sec so these just came up so I haven't actually had a chance to look at these yet this is at 315
Churchill Avenue no I'll put it on a map in one second uh let me just get what they're propos oh here we go the applicant received original approvals for a d variance and site plan approval to construct a banquet hall from the Zoning Board of adjustment since then the applicant has received numerous did
you review this one okay so sorry no this different one I read this one through it's a it's an existing banquet hall and the regulations say that you're not allowed to have fireworks or loud music in the back of wall they're asking
for a variance so that they can have music when there's a wedding going on to accompany the bride and groom down the aisle outdoor music outdoor music 15 minutes worth of Music That's the whole variance otherwise everything stays the same Banquet Hall they're having the
ceremony inside but they want want to have a variance for yeah what is the exact wording on the on the uh so it says we are hereby requesting partial relief of the original resolution of approval which indicates no fireworks or outside music is allowed the applicant
is requesting approval for outdoor music to be permitted for a maximum duration of 15 minutes in accordance with a ritual procession inv involving the bride and groom during wedding ceremony how many decibels would that be above um very strict ons 15 minutes is
really little little and this is 15 minutes per day or per what no per event per event per event the event can be every half an hour so basically they receive F the they receive variance approvals already
for this banquet hall and everything they need but they want to amend one of the conditions of the approval resolution which basically said you cannot have fireworks or or music or allow to fireworks or outside music they
want so they want to ask for an amendment to the approval resolution just to allow for outside music not fireworks Outside Music where is this property where is this Banquet home uh this is located at 315 Churchill app 315
or 3 close nearest residential hous are I think so I think I think that was in shopping center that they took over if I remember right yeah it might be Beyond
yeah all right there houses in the back yeah okay here we go this is the property we're talking about here oh it's the marold mar oh marold this is uh
Veronica the this is Amwell right 514 Amwell Churchill Road is back here Veronica Clyde Amwell and yes there are some houses here I think they're talking about I me houses it's commercial
commcial offices yeah all the houses on the other side of the they're talking about procession and recession music that's it they're not talking about having like a band it's literally like the here comes the bride and then whatever song you want to come out to it sounds like
that's what it is right now the township ordinance they their approval resolution understand Township ordinance does not use decb to determine if it's a if it's a violation anymore they just use it if it's uh they consider it objectively
whether it's a nuisance or not it's very formal um so I mean if if you know could they could give them the variance and say if they if they don't annoy any of the neighbors
then they're okay but they still might get fined if it's the violation well I'm worried they might be within hearing of Mr Peterson no the other side of Hamilton Street Mr Peterson this
Peterson remember oh oh oh oh yes yes yes okay so they've already gotten all the approvals and variances they need for the banquet facility that's already approved they're just looking for this one one Amendment enal no we would think
of noise issue yeah anyone have she's focused on idling noise anyone want to make any comments on that or or umon I think
she's yeah that's that's fine just just my just my two s on it if it's an Indian wedding that is a loud noise my question is uh will that happen after 10 p.m. when I leave there's no noise after 10: stting a wedding overthinking it I
formal yeah I don't think I mean they would still have to comply with the Township's noise ordinance so no nothing after 10 I think is literally just I don't it's not even probably if it's live music I'm assuming it's like a what would it be every everybody getting mared every day yeah it's not to allow
to have the wedding party outside with music it's just the procession the wedding's inside so if the music lasts for 5 minutes and the police get called because of the music being outside by the time they get there the music might
be over but even but even if it's not I mean I think it's like a $100 fine or maybe a $200 fine so maybe it's worth them for the $200 fine I think the reason they're asking for various because they want to avoid the fee understand because there was a specific
condition on the Zoning Board of proof right so they're asking for relief from that specific Condition it's not the general noise or do the noise so am I just responding so normally with something like this we would say you
know we don't have any no environmental yeah no um like can you keep it below 100 DB action levels 90 I know I was giving him a little
leeway action numbers all right so that's that one and then this one I didn't look at um okay let me get the other one is on the zoning board I just got to get that was the 14 houses
no this was just a um well let me not say that cuz when I saw it pop up I was like oh got to review it there because it just popped up oh there's two on here all right let's do this one first okay so we have Sereno tropiano and Susan
quilty and this one looks this is let's see what there we proposed to replace the existing single family home with a new single family home the existing lot is under sized at 7500 square feet and
requires additional considerations as it is in the East Millstone historic historic district the new home would be 13 would be set back 13 ft from the property line to conform with the other homes adjacent to it so they are seeking
a variance so they're under sized already 7500 sare ft you're supposed to have 10,000 sare ft um they want to be 13 ft back for their front yards set back and the Zone requires 25 and they're saying that the other adjacent
properties are 13 ft back um they would like to have 50 ft actual existing lot size and this is 100 fet minimum Frontage is required so they're looking they're supposed to have 100 fet of Frontage they only have 50 um theer the
maximum lot coverage in this zone is 20% they're going to have 21.1 lot coverage and the maximum impervious coverage in this zone is 30% and it looks like they're going to exceed it by 7.87% so I will get this on a map so the
only environmental thing really is the impervious because the you know the setbacks really aren't something within our domain and they say that there is existing structure and they will demolish and put new one yes so what is the percentage
today um hold on because you know we should honor a grandfather principal principal Shindler no that's not right that's their present address
that's not the what is the address wait let me close I know what's one here this is is this okay saying it's Shindler oh Shindler that's what I Shindler Court Shin
Court set okay so it's this not oh come on next right yeah it's giving me a little bit of trouble okay so it's this
property right here uh 619 is Cedar Grove Lane so just for reference so let's let me show you where we're at here so we're talking about this property I'm sorry this property here this is Weston Road this is Cedar Grove Lane and they are saying the houses
around them are 13 ft back from the road and so they just want they look like they're you say that didn't you say that it was in East milstone they said they were in East Millstone and this doesn't look like it's that's the present address right but that's the address for
which they're applying that's what they have here they have set run by the way that address should oh I'm sorry I'm sorry you're right you're right 48 Elm Street I'm sorry it was down further that is East Millstone 48 Elm
Street um oh I I think this the Wi-Fi may be give me a little trouble all right bear with me gota go back in we'll search if I block and lot uh 40 let's try this one again 48
Elm okay saying it's uh no it's saying it I do have signal it's saying that's not an address uh an address in East Millstone not the Somerset yeah let me try that they're put saying
sum okay 48 Ms 48 Elm Street East Millstone oh now it comes up Somerset when you type okay this is the property all right we got it there Elm
Street way back up here so we can see where we're at okay so this is Elm Street this is the property we're talking about this is Wartman street I'm going to back up uh just so you have kind of some kind of idea here Cedar Hill cemeteries over
here Canal Road here's the canal Canal Road and here's the property so they are saying that the houses on either side are only 13 ft back from the road and so they would like the same the same uh
treatment had a lot of room to go back there don't they they do is that want the pool in the back corner yeah I mean this 8 ft but I mean this now the vehicles are parked in between the houses if they push the house deep
they can have driveway in front of the house yeah so let me just read one more time think that's the 13 ft from the street it doesn't seem to me to be a
real environmental concern and that's the one item that they really have a choice about everything else results from the fact that it's a 7500 fo they're already under sized it's the smallest lot on the Block yeah they're already under sized they're supposed to
be the other thing is the impervious coverage so they're allowed to have uh 30 % impervious coverage is that what I said before 30% impious coverage and they're going to end up having 37.87 per. so that's really something we
can look at that's the one thing that again comes under our domain is the because they're adding an addition on the house so they're going to cover whatever the addition they it sounds as if they're going to tear down the
existing propos site plan so that this is the proposed site plan the existing is here so they have a twostory they have additional structure in the back garage garage so a twostory gar a twostory frame dwelling again is going to be here
also it looks like and the entire driveway is considered nonpr improvised that's why it's 37 cuz now it makes sense yeah how about their tree situation are they taking down one trees in the back
there um let's see here I just want to I will look at that in one second they're also going to have a covered porch here in the front here's the driveway yeah uh they're an edge of pavement and then a one-story frame
garage let's see what the tree situation is there is not a garage should be closer to the house that would give them um less requirement for the imperious looks pretty wide is it a two-car garage it's not just the garage
but the pavement the driveway no no but I mean I was looking at leading up to it The Improv is it a two-car garage or one it looks like look and see I'm looking just see I can find the tree the Gage is two car right attached
garage they would have there the garage in the back less impervious surface that's a two-car garage I don't I'm looking for the tree information putting it so much back they're adding lots of unnecessary
impervious no they don't have unless they have a it's also much better when it's attached because then when you want to add charging station you have much shorter wiring right this is not really future
group the garage should be attached in some sense here I know yeah I don't see anything at all about the narrow lot difficult to get into it I mean if you had a side
entrance the garage should be the front maybe sort of go past it and circle around I don't see anything about any trees being taken down at all uh let's see case they wrote here in addition the lack covered varies is the Minimus and
accepted by historic commission recommendation the new home is similar in size to the existing home the addition of the garage puts us over the limit by 1.1% of lot coverage yeah don't have any trees on the I think
the the main thing is the impov surface and I think Stan's idea is a good idea that to to lessen the amount is uh make the driveway shorter and bring the uh garage Closer Closer yeah yeah even if the garage is just closer to the house
then the driveway being shorter I would I would suggest that we just ask that they make an effort to reduce the imperious surface for instance by bringing the the Gage closer
house and thereby reducing the length of driveway considering making the garage attached garage attached yeah I would also make the comment about
wiring for future wiring for for electric charging they may say oh I don't care about electric cars but L the question of running a line too it probably would want anyway it
would be more expensive to do it because now we have to might have to be a slightly heavier line okay so there's just trees along the back property line decent amount of trees look like a little bit of trees here here yeah and a
pool like an above ground pool yeah it is above the garage may be just to the to the part where those trees yeah quite likely right here yeah I think it's right there which is why they not take it it looks like it's just grass in without
trees they they may take the tree down you can ask they're not required to F residen okay anyone else I comments on that one no all right now hang on we do have
one more oh let me close some of these so I know what's what another one new one this one just came in I haven't had a chance to look at it this one looks like it's kind of a bigger oh actually sounds all right eh Somerset LLC where 1860 eav let me look I haven't
even looked at it yeah applicant is seeking approval from the Zoning for adjustment for sign variances related to proposed signage for ever home suites the requested variances include the number of signs and their height so they are seeking
variances for okay so for a hotel you're allowed to have one sign one additional sign is permitted at the rear and side entrances provided that each is equal to or less than the maximum permitted size of the front sign they want have
two um one at the front and one at the side both would exceed the maximum permitted use um they also are seeking a variant uh sign maximum vertical Dimension so the maximum vertical you can have is 3T
uh one of their signs would be 4.98 ft and the other would be 6.72 ft and they say why do they say they need this let's see why give any information let's see the
hotel is set back from existing roadway and it attracts many firsttime visitors as such the signs are essential in helping guests easily locate the hotel additional testimony will be presented at the hearing uh that's really all they say about this this is at 1860 East na is
that correct say um it's going to be called let me tell you it's going to be called uh Hotel previously approved see what the name of it is eh Su something
ever what was it called ever home suites there what is there now uh that's that's where there used to be the Travel Lodge yeah it's right up against 287
they theyve already got the what do they have there now sign Just A Sign VAR sign VAR they're exceeding the size of the signs instead of the one they're allowed to have they want to have two they also want to have both signs taller than the three feet that they're allowed to be so
instead of three feet one is going to be 5T almost and one's going to be over 6 feet um this is the site right here those signs facing 287 um no I think they're facing and they're not
illuminated it doesn't say if they're illuminated you know what if if they allow them to this is this is near they allow them to increase the size of their signs then every
other hotel and motel is going to want to do the same thing and they're opening the door for the others to get the same thing and this is it is an environmental thing because it's Aesthetics right so I mean people usually people usually
when they're going to a hotel or a motel they're not just driving around looking for them they do their research before they know they know where they're going so they order got their reservations I would say for the most part maybe you guys disagree with me but for the most part they know where they're going so
the signage isn't the most important thing so for the for them to make it larger again it sets a precedent for all other hotels I also think they're making it larger for visibility from 287 yeah advertising more than anything else it's
far away from we haven't looked yet but again you know most people I think you know maybe you guys do it differently you do your research before and you know where you're going to stay when you come look for the stars and reviews how's the
food um but what I see that um the L is far away from what they want to be seen right and there's no way and that's the only place they can put sign right right so what's everyone's thoughts yes
or my biggest argument even if they have the extra big signage you cannot see from easn because I think quick check is right in front of them right yeah it I don't and you have University orthopedic big building University Orthopedics um
so the thought is large but they're saying the thought is that larger signage isn't going to make a difference because they're already blocked and there's the building next to it of the doctor will to to make the
application all right what does everybody think because for this I just don't know I don't see the visualization I if somebody's telling me that it will be blocked I think that they must have think it through and the reason they're
asking it to be larger because and they will probably raise it high position I don't know I mean some sometimes rnie is right that people will drive F out sometimes you're right sometimes you're right but sometimes you just You
driveing by you see a sign and a couple weeks later you decide you want to go someplace oh there's a Hotel over there or hotel there and then you go look it up but it's it's advertising as well as definite Lo often have you done that
like my feeling is the zoning board has probably heard enough applications sign variances to make up their mind on yeah they they have an idea you can just say aesthetically not pleasing for me is it signed on 287 and
it went to court and we had no recollection of that Ted you is it environmental issue actually is it environmental issue okay but not our jurisdiction
athetics is environmental so just so I know what's put in the report are we saying that we have no comment are we saying that we don't think they should get the larger signage because it's not going to make a difference and that it would cause a precedence or are we just I think it's
really truthfully it's mixed feelings my thing is why why Reon for this it's the number of traffic going by a lot of traffic is there a ground level
view that they're showing of um what it would look like street level view I think it's is this this is considered the front sign is that what it mean that's high enough up to be seen from
two prob real Point yes yeah okay so this is the sign that's going to be almost 7 feet tall it's like a fix to the building how high up is it on the building like on the third floor the fourth FL it's not a freestanding sign
it's on side yeah how many stores does it have stories three oh four the basement yeah four yeah that's that's on the building itself that's not a a freestanding
billboard right right one two proposed signs one channel letter set so yeah it's on the building it's on the building on the building it's on the building but I don't see a big deal all right so no comment no comment no
comment no apparent environmental effect okay that's it for you can't even say the birds would fly into it they' be hit the building sure M that's it for site plans all
right we finished site PL uh new business sustainable Jersey re certification do this year that's the stuff he gave us um yep so I had the green team meeting last week um we went
through and uh Stan was there which was great um and we went through all of the uh spreadsheet that has all of the actions on it and try to figure out which are good to submit which are not so some we won't be submitting like I suspected because it going to require a
lot of work and we have enough buffer points um so what I've been working on now is everyone understands what they're supposed to do by May 8th I'm asking that we have all the narratives submitted back to us so we can put the application in for May 16th that's the
first submittal to sustainable Jersey um so what I've been doing is today everyone got this Google sheet but I've been taking out what are your exact requirements and putting them in an email and basically saying these are the three or four you have to work on please
send them to me you know The Narrative and I also if I have a narrative from our last submission or any documentation I sent it specifically to that person so that they can use it so Stan for example I sent an email to today and it says Stan here's an example of because there
wasn't a narrative previously so I gave an example of what I did last year for for that category um plus there was a list of like three or four that you're supposed to work on and the link to the action so that you can see what it is just try to make it as easy as possible for people so that no one can say oh you
know I can't find it it's like it's here it's in the email it's in a separate document it's in this Google sheet so everyone hopefully will be submitting me everything we need by May 8th and I'll get the first draft in a sustainable Jersey by the 16th um
as they come in Ted is going to be he gives them the review and he gives it a hard review and he's mean about it he's really mean about it so he's like no he goes through with a fine to com and anything he doesn't like he sends back to the person you
them hoping old pass mustard yeah T's the final he the buck stops with him basically so that's what's going to happen and so hopefully people as people start sending stuff in I'm I am really going to send it headed for his review
and then we get it up there then sustainable Jersey we have until June to kind of look at it and give us any feedback and then we have another submitt in July and then after that there's even another submitt and end of September so um I think so far so good I
think we're definitely move in the right direction May 16th y so so far so good so after the what day remember after that earlier if you if
the submit was due the 16th that's only 8 days after yeah you if anybody does require any sub like if they have to find out something new that they haven't already
found yes that's why I submitted it is well I want them to have everything done and and to me by the E so I sent them everything today so I'm hoping that between now and then people will look or at least say to me oh I'm not sure where this is and I can help them but it is
tight but if I make it too early then I get you know then it's like people you know it's harder to get them to actually want to deal it so I'm trying to how many of them will do with seven a lot a lot probably yeah but we'll see I mean
if you if there was information from last year I sent in a Word document so someone could literally do track changes on it so let's hope but I think we're in good shape there is there anything that we have to do as the environmental commission there are going to be some things we have to look at but most of it
I'm I'll be doing with Ted um but there are some things I I will need help on and I'll I'll reach out toone individually on that okay okay yeah uh that meeting was a Township manager and mentioned that they they are
contemplating getting electric front loader uh which is like um 30 ton equipment that has the capability of lifting six Stone um they were more like on the side no because they would need I me obviously
uh incentives uh but I have reached out to the CEO of that company it's called heavy and they're located in in east winster or Westminster I cannot remember which one it is um so uh I I connected them today I they didn't started
communicating yet but uh it's it's if if it if if it goes through I would be very excited yeah be great the budget is a it's a big constraint obviously is this one they could use the existing charging stations or they'd
have to use one special I didn't think it's through yet um they have so it it would be based in uh D DPW and they do have charging station there that is limited to 6
kilow it depends how much uh energy they need because you know they can just keep plugg itting in it doesn't have to charge quickly but it really depends on how much U they probably wouldn't use it every day so
you know what I'm usually have time to a piece of equipment stand that to get from DPW to where it's going that it would be on a flat bed to get there I think so so that's less ener that they
would be using electricity they be using it it's not on Ro vehicle it moves on side it's a construction vehicle um I don't know uh whether you can you know for short distances just you know roll um whether it's legal I
techn technically it's possible but you know it's stress on the road and stuff so I remember Bob vlocker talking about this and he said that they'd been hoping to get a grant from the state to defray
the cost but the state said that the money is not available for off Offroad Vehicles correct correct yeah yeah and the CEO his name is raymon he said that uh there is some different type of
funding and they're familiar with with it and they can help the organization okay good to make the request file and complete the application which is you know this is the important fact you know yeah the program is a
diesel replacement dies vehicle replacement or something diesel sticks okay so okay then um the community heat monitoring and mitigation yes so I heard back from them so we did not get the
grants um they had hundreds of applications apparently gave 10 out so um the one thing they did say is that they are hoping to open up the next round of Grant application for July 15th so for the year 2026 so we can resubmit
the same application or just email them and say hey we're interested in you keeping us on the list for this but there's just so much you know competition basically very lucky with sustainable Jersey so I think they just want to spread the joy and give the money to
someone else as well Noah is the one that got hit by a lot of these layoffs yes very true they also had a bunch of layoffs recently so this grant is through Noah through the national ocean that's the weather little weather thing
so that's okay so they only selected 10 people to get the Grant and we didn't get it but that's all right we can keep applying for it keep our name in there yeah okay um this we've talked about before appointment of a youth member yes I have update on that oh okay so I spoke
so Ed pnik wrote back to me and said you should check with Gary Rosenthal he's the chair of the Human Resources Commission uh and I remembered from presenting at a meeting to them that they do have they call them Junior Commissioners so I actually spoke to him right before this meeting he called and
um he said that the process they use and they've been doing this for years cuz well let me back up I went through the ordinance and I found nothing in the ordinance the human Resources Commission about a junior member a non- voting me nothing I found absolutely nothing that would give you the impression that it's
an appointed position so I spoke to him and he said that what they've been doing for years and years is every I guess they hope they try to get a junior in high school so it's a two-year term they work with the Township's I'm sorry the uh school board and the school's
guidance Department to find a student that's interested and then Gary as I guess the commission reviews this per these people choose as a student and then the because they have no voting power and no standing I guess the chairperson appoints
them they will be so yes that's the process they use I mean I said so you never have to go to the council or anything like that and he said no cuz it's a non voting position and it's basically like having an ex official member and they've never had any problem
apparently they've been doing that for forever they haven't had problems with the fact they have evening meetings and may maybe the youth had something to do no I mean they've never had a problem with this type of appointment process because I went to their ordinance cuz I was like okay we will rewrite our
ordinance to match their ordinance no so then I went to the Board of Health I went to a bunch of other boards and I there's nothing in there about Junior Commissioners or members does it have to be limited to one I don't know I I mean at that point I don't know there I'm sure you can have
as many as you'd like I would assume um if they get if they get two or three people that are interested yeah I mean how would it hurt us to have have them here and it benefits them as well as far as you know getting on their resume for
for school for college applications and meanwhile they're helping us also I I don't think it's a problem when I asked him do they get an extra credit or anything for school for doing this he said no but that do I mean we could work with the environmental uh Club at the high school or we could go through their
guidance department to get a recommendation and they might recommend one or person or two people I think anything beyond two people I mean because you do have to remember they are students so during the meeting they're probably going to have questions and they're probably going to need like some background so it's going to potentially
add on to what we do which is fine the table right Beyond like two I would I you know I think it's probably a little much but but yeah and that's the that's the process that he uses I think whoever is in touch with or in educ cation area
might want to talk to somebody Administration wise or or maybe we get I mean I can reach out to someone if we're interested in doing that I don't is that what you all want to do or well there's been some of the high school kids have come here once in a while we
should we pass the motion for it I would say yes and I would make a motion to do it to to say up to two students actually want to bring student like a year or two years AG ago and he just through you talked about this for
20 years St okay so it's not that it fell through it's that so councilman pnik I thought and I did think that that we were going to have to redo the ordinance and that's what he thought as well but there's nothing in any ordinance so he's basically saying that
the chairperson is able to kind of like appoint like just the way that the chairperson is able to make an ad hoc committee it's kind of like the same thing it's like an ad hoc they can't vote you know we must already moved we just forgot or
something why are we just moving and then so what so we just do it yeah I don't know what you're saying what are you trying to say I'm like trying to understand what is what I'm trying to say is that we must have moved in the past do we have a record that we moved that we want to have a student member well this is the motion specifically to
allow Paul to actually appoint them not the council for Paul to that go through the Town Council that that's what the stays with us we have to go through the Town Council technicality stand yeah or you Arie I forget so I have Arie as making the
motion and making the second with an S or an a right and again just everyone knows this would be to allow basically they would I would reach out to the school ask them for recommendations get we would get their resume and then you know now are we going to say that it's
for are we looking for a one or twoyear term going to ask because if you're looking at you know it could be either one so the way Gary does it is he said if they get a junior it's like until they graduate um from high school they don't like you know say only one year for you and that's it if it's a senior
basically they do it until you graduate okay and if the person has to step on if you want to have two students you could have one Junior appointed each year oh so they would overlap sure yeah but it also that's a great idea but it also
depends on who it is that's volunteering yeah you have to get somebody interested or if there somebody that's that would be the that would be the best case scenario if we get out of something like that nice yeah as the kids get
into there's even more activities that eat up their time and they may not see that is a good point that Maria is saying though is that so we go to Franklin High School right but do we also want to go to we should go to votc
probably because they're a high school here servicing and Ruckers prep you have Central Jersey here you have Thomas well then the answer the other question is if you go to bch or ruter do we have a residency requirement
as we do for the board yes yes that'll cut down the pool to some extent yeah we will well there also Charter Schools do you want to include them yes no I'm just saying I think we should do the public I think we should do the Franklin Township Public
and the V which is a public school once we start doing the private scho I don't problem with it I mean but I don't know that's just my initial more straightforward I don't know maybe that's not right definitely a residency
rule yes yes that's yeah must be resident and I will reach out to get um guidance and environmental have to check to see if they have a green card to make sure that they don't
get the poor oh God I know right doesn't matter sure it doesn't seem to matter if they have a greenard or not okay so we have a first we have a second right okay all in favor awesome so I'll try to get the
I'll try to get a recommendation from for someone Okay Okay cool so now we're up to committee reports so this this appointment is going to be for the next the coming year right in doesn't really make sense yeah as soon
as we can get someone basically but you know student to go by the school year school year September for that start in September start September which means we have to sort of reach out to them now to get applications
okay you might want to interview I don't know have a conversation um okay good okay we got that locked in y any
committee reports Mar okay we um we sent letters to the schools about the sustainable and psag uh project um we made a spreadsheet and I
my work S I haven't heard from the administration I also try um to include the private schools but sustainable Jersey does not um it's it's only for public school because it's from the union from the teachers un nja um so I
have to limit the list also has the the public schools also we started on there's a Google document that they are revising okay about the clean energy article or oh great that's the article
that is going to basically encourage people to come to our website that shows how you can save money um on energy costs in your house because PSG is increasing the their prices in June right so Maria and the committee had the idea to basically say hey here's ways
you can save money because the prices are going up Thursday I went to the Chamber of Commerce U meeting he attended um and they were asking many questions about the Extreme Cleanup um
what the mego did was he um present again the flyer and um basically um that's what we talk about mostly about the Extreme Cleanup and they were um going to reach out to
other businesses that will bring um more participants and I told them they have to register on on the link that you sent and there's a wave where that they have to sign up sign up too awesome okay can I just add on to your committee even
though I wasn't part of it but I think this falls under it so I brought the idea of um Robin had asked about teaming up with the trails committee for their Firefly hike that they do every year for the Dark Skies thing they they like they loved it so they said we can absolutely have a table there it's going to be the
probably second or third Friday night of July or Saturday night of July so as it gets closer I'll let you know but they love that idea and then Jenny has been working with a member of our Trails committee as well his name is PES la and he is a member of the Native Plant
Society so they are working together on potentially putting together native plants uh event so yeah they're working on that so that's a good partnership Trails environmental commission mean anything no any other standard anything from the energy
standpoint uh so um well nothing about energy but uh for this team cleanup we have agreed that uh we'll send the announcement besides thank you sending to the Chamber of Commerce it was sent
to Franklin reporter and Advocate and also to um tap into Malik right I I sent it to the youth center but I didn't get any feedback but they got it thank you thank
you um I'm not sure whether I reported last time that uh we got the parking lot secured in the back of the CH okay okay um that's April what April 12 yeah yeah
um now speaking of um uh save the mole um I have to acknowledge that the K family did pretty good job uh so um do you have the graphics yeah um so just from last meeting when
you guys approved us using your logo we kind of thought that was it and so we actually already made the purchase um and so if there's a problem with the actual uh signs I have the proof here um we can find a way to take your logo off no I'm sure it's fine yeah let's see I'm
leave this over here it's going to be double-sided save them all on one side leave the leaves on the other so except of the prove it will be like that I like it leaves this my mom did all of this by the way can't take any credit your mom did it yeah cool um she also made the
the QR code goes to a website ftve tho.com um which talks about the two committees I can talk about that more during and it's going to be re rectangular um yes the signs yes what size or is it like functioning the
website can I put it okay um I don't know what size yeah my mom I can text her you don't know the size it's I'll text her I'll tell you dur something on it yes this is the website oh this is
really nice lot of exact wording as the article I just found out today this isn't your fault this is mine till Ted told me it's t i l l i don't see any reason for an apostrophe I put the apostrophe there I
thought it was like I guess you're I guess you're abbreviating on that's what I thought I was doing yeah so you have to put on other grammar has changed that's what I told her so when you get a chance I just found that out I have to change it in my report too
yeah we can change that I think it should be let's be simple just put it until no no discussion until we moved last year little B this is a nice website kind I like this Jenny this looks great I did the
writing beautiful I have a compl have this made it I mean the website too this is a European bird I yes oh my goodness I did try to explain it's a European it's a
European Robin I actually I'm perfectly fine with that so thing that that image was free it wasn't copyrighted and we were trying so hard to find native stuff even like don't look too closely at the pl a lot of them are like we we did the
best image we could and then we chose that one because it's a robin we do have an American robin most people don't know the difference oh I think we should leave the European one in there and it will create conversation and see how many people pick up on it use a pigeon
it was intentional all along so Jenny just so I know so it says here if you want to sign to contact us or your mom's email which is great now if they contact us what what are we supposed to do just for them to you or I either that that would be fine it
doesn't matter yeah yeah my my mom is ready to volunteer to do all the sign handing out um we were kind of like going back and forth because I was originally thinking we would give them to you guys but she seems to be willing to drive around and in all honesty if
she is is happy to do that or have people pick up only because I don't I'm not in this building like often unless I'm here meeting so there's really like you know what I mean it would be yeah easier if that work okay I think that we could handle that even if it's easier to
have a place to pick it up or pick up we can work with or they could pick it up here if you if she doesn't want to drive it around we could leave them at like the clerk's office and then people could come to the clerk's office so whatever find out from her yeah I'll tell her about that she seemed pretty willing to drive around but I'll tell her there are
two different they're doing it it's like a complains be different I mean yeah I think they're they're different but they do go to the same one again I like it so the QR code leads to
this just click I think it looks great and this website is great and it's very informative right are those native birds but at some point we should have it it's to Township website I think we can I don't see why not right it's just that
we are slower right who us what kind of logo do we have on our website I have requested the correct logo but I don't let me check and see if it's been done hold on um I do think we should link this to
our website though I think that's a great website I think it's awesome yeah it's kind of big but it's oh they updated it yeah I think we should put the save the M here on the side and it can the
website it should be okay but it should be part of the official website the save the mo one you're saying the township I know they used to but when something was imminent like
within the next week or so they were advertising something on the front p page of the township website the scrolling yeah um that would be something that you would want to have there you know couple of weeks before yeah the start date to make it yes so we
can add that um add to scrolling menu That's the link that shows up but if you do ftsv mod.com it brings you to that website ft and it changes the URL at the top okay ft save
which means that you had to register the domain yes um my mom has business who's paying for that okay this is just like my notes so I will make sure that gets there
ft ftth mo.com I like that a lot thank you Jenny and thank your mom Su thank you that is a really nice website and I think it's nice that it's run by volunteers I really do I think it's
nice and simple try to hit more colors nothing yeah something is there show off your support that must have been added before your first mod take one to three photos of your lawn and send them to the environmental commission there we go oh size are 12 by
18 in perfect 12 that was in the ordinance 18 and and you said it was like5 $6 per piece or um I know that at the end of this purchase it came out to about 450
okay total I think it ended up being around 50 signs because we had to pay for the stand separately 4 450 divided by 50 it's free they're giving it half of free it says yeah that's what our goal is so we're trying to fundrais money for that
we've been talking to some local businesses that haven't nobody's committed yet um but then today we launched this QR uh the venmo thing we're starting to spread around to people if you guys know anybody or know any businesses that are willing to
donate s this l so that's directly to your mom then the the QR code the the the funding that the funding yes it's going directly to her and we're keeping track of how much we get if we end up like going past 450 then we'll buy more
signs now you going to put the um sponsors up here yeah that's the plan and then we also have um we created these brochur I pulled it up too of F and so people's businesses can go on the very back um and then it explains
everything if they want we would print them out for the businesses to have there that's wonderful and like a window sign beautiful very nice you did a lot of work you did lot of
work really cool yeah the other thing we offer to anybody's business who wants it is a window sign that's just like we're supporting these campaigns oh yeah I like you don't need a support this QR code is the base to hold it up be
yeah it's nice cuz on the back it's leave the leaves so it works out great for that too were you asking I'm sorry yeah I was just going can we take a step back for a second we were just talking about students on possibility of students um being a part of this but
weren't we also talking about having non- voting members that would be appointed I don't think were going to be appointed by the council um to expand a number um of people here that would be involved in many of the things I know we were talking about that in the past what
happened to that so those are not appointed members it's like like how we work with Jenny as like a volunteer so basically it's like she has a project that she's interested in helping us with the save the mo so we can like work with her and she can kind of you know write
articles and do what she's been doing and come up with this program so we're allowed to have like these other right offshoot committees I guess with volunteers but not I don't know that we talked about non other non- voting members did we or no I don't feel like
we did did we no just I think just show from the youth standpoint from the youth standpoint yeah but we can work with any volunteers does that make sense or or no it's I think it's harder to get youth volunteers it has been over the
years that's why I thought we had talked about adult you know non- voting volunteers who could get involved yes and they can I mean like the way we work with Jenny and her mom that's how we work but not as a member at the cuz event cuz then it's going to be you know
we're going to have a ton of people but we can this gives us the flexibility to work with people on like specific projects that they're interested in so I don't know if it's something we want to advertise so Jenny actually she wrote an article about volunteerism that's going
to get hopefully you know she's going to send it to uh Franklin reporter and tap into and if it gets published it's about how to volunteer with us like in things that you're interested in so it's a whole volunteers which is great so but we're just waiting to post that until
after the uh stream cleanup is posted and save the mo just so that it doesn't get like kind of lost might be something that would go on the Franklin times also times Franklin times yes absolutely just one quick comment so when you have volunteers from the community who are involved in such big projects is is
there a provision that we can get them to the table when they have a meeting rather than just sitting in the audience there I was think point oh that good point that that was your point my point you know she's not sitting out yeah that's what I meant by saying if if they're
instrumental in driving a project part of the group for that meeting you know yes I think that's yeah I think that's enough chairs yeah absolutely that works for me I mean I don't really have a say in it's really you guys but I'm like that's good with
me do we need to move that Jenny just sits here orable yeah perfect she an honor an honor but you can't vote all right awesome well thank you Jenny for your help you've done a ton of work and this looks awesome this looks really great and I
think it's very informative I would add one piece of information for those who are afraid that you know they can get fined uh that uh the township is not going to enforce it until and pamphlet yeah we I don't know that that was ever
said we did it last year but I think we need to uh get the from from loer again oh that we wouldn't oh right okay I'll have to send him another email okay yeah I I think we
want to say by end of April to remember okay we would call it until ST which is 22nd but you know somebody may say oh I'm this I'll do it later or it's not toally I think all right let me get the okay on from the
township manager on that first the township only gets involved if it's over 10 in high yes we don't know what will be the height at that moment I wouldn't want to 22 is Tuesday and people may choose to do it
on the weekend after that it would be 26 and 27 so it's say the end of the month and and end of month is then on when after I mean that's that's an easy yeah that's why I'm saying it's easy to remember end of mon
Rains r exactly exactly all right let me get the okay on that from the township manager and then I'll I'll let you know Jenny and then we have to go sounds good good okay cool if it rains are there any um are there any
hot topics that we haven't covered um can I talk about the na of plant talk yeah absolutely yeah um yeah so I was working with prish from the trails advisory committee and he's work he's on the Native Plant Society and so he's trying to get a speaker um we're
looking to do it like April 28th or April 30th I went over to um the senior center and I talked with Janet tamari um and she was saying that booking the room for that date shouldn't be a problem um she
also thought that it would be fine if I got the booking but kind of on behalf of EC so that way it's still free what day was it I'm sorry April the either the 20th or the 30th or 30th it's going to depend on like if we get a speaker which if we don't then there's no event and
you're looking to do night time or Daytime Nighttime nighttime don't we have something April 29th is that the school thing 24 on the 24th let me check I remember there something everything
um that's fine I think if you do it on or if she needs me to email her to book it I can do that too or just if you just CC me on it okay that's probably the easiest thing if you email her and CC me on it then um she knows that it's from us and then she can you know this way
they know it's through the environmental commission so there's no charge and all that stuff okay okay perfect um and then the other thing I was talking to her about is having tables there so I was hoping the trails advisory committee would have a table and I was hoping the EC would also have a table um there
kind of similar to what we did for common ground um and then I was also planning on asking at some point shade tree for a table there if they're open to it do have table down um something to think about and
then I was thinking about reaching out to the FHS environmental Club about having a table there that would be great yeah just to have some representation I think that the community is extra concerned about the environment right now so I think it
could be good to have um sort of all these groups present I'm sure the trails commit will have one was to CL what do have a presentation um oh it's pres a presentation about why we should be planting native um encouraging people to
do that but also like I was hoping getting into the science of why just a little bit um there people now giving talks on that for a public audience so I kind of thought the Native Plant Society probably already has something locked and loaded speaker who who would be the
speaker uh somebody from the Native Plant Society Jenny can you send me an email about that can bring it to the shade tree yeah I don't I and again I don't I haven't even thought of this but I don't know if Ted's even available but if you need
another person you you're very familiar with native plants you are you're not particular need of birds birds seems to know a lot about native plants to well I've suggested more than
once that when somebody needs a line of of con of Evergreens they use Easter red Cedars which are about as native to specifically to Franklin Township
get yeah y but there there many shapes and sizes of native plants true anywhere from ground cover to tulip trees yeah no you're right all right well yeah if that doesn't work I might know another person
or two CU I'm kind of in that world that might be able give a talk but for sure there a Native Plant Society they ought to have somebody that's what I was thinking yeah getting a date that they can speak harder do they have any
relation to Rod The Cooperative Extension or uh the Native Plant Society yeah I'm not sure about that I don't think so but we could probably get someone from Rucker's Cooperative if you couldn't get cuz the one thing about the Native Plant Society
they may charge for their presentation so that's the that's like the bind right there so if they're going to charge you know I don't know what then then we'll have to find a different speaker but I'm sure we can find a different speaker did the county egg person know anything about this I
would assume so somebody will absolutely be able to help us yeah for sure I what's tricky is that the people who are adamant about planting native are not the same people who are actually putting plants in the ground so going to somebody that's horiculture landscaping or agriculture might not be the help we
want them to be yeah yeah um so that's why I was thinking Native Plant Society cuz well and PES is on the native plant so he'll be he knows of a speaker he's just trying to find like one that is not going to be like a charge basically so
he's working on it okay awesome oh cool and one quick thing too so PES as part of his Native Plant Society and he's a member of our Trails commission he um they had some kind of funding left over with their work with the Master
Gardeners and so uh they are going to go to neg NP the Native Plant Society and Master Gardeners and start labeling and inventorying the native plants there and then at the end we'll get a database of the native plants they found and then they're going to try to label them as
well because it's goes for hours for Master Gardeners but we end up getting benefit from it too and then maybe like down the road you know the trails committee wants to do kind of like a walk and like show the native plants so that it's a good it's a good um
partnership I know a couple years ago there was an initiative to restore the sort of exhibit of native plants there anything
ever come of that yeah so Chuck Martin when he was on the trails committee he worked on it he did get a few of the demonstration plots done DPW has been doing a good job of mowing around them and keeping there's like a trail now that goes through there but every year the biggest problem is it has to be
weeded and it has to be looked at and trimmed whatever is going on so having that maintenance is hard especially since Chuck moved away so yeah we were to have Boy Scout do it last year but you know it's kind of as we move forward the maintenance but they were replanted
so okay section right next to the parking lot yeah right behind the kiosk y m now we'll move into Old business skip the stuff voluntary program I have any updates on that we talked about it
last time but Robin's not here so okay the annual stream clean up that's St yeah yeah Walter right now wter I'm not that okay climate Mayors I don't have
any update on either I'm still learning about this yeah the csite composting Ellen anything new on that I'm I'm doing research uh I'm I'm really surprised at how Terror cycle has changed and grown uh because I mean they
have a lot of programs and uh yeah I mean I'm thinking about my community and I don't think my community would go for it if it comes from me but uh I would love that and people have to be trained on you know what is what is compostable
that's for like finding somebody that would actually collect the compost well I mean we we know about a few companies uh and uh you have to meet their requirements you have to do I mean it's always do what they want yeah there's one group I know goes to the
West Windsor farmers market and I'm totally forgetting their name but I do think they do a curbside program you mean other than Taurus that's probably totally there's yeah there's contract okay I think Taurus had a contract with
W wsor you mention that you want communication from the environmental commission like I just wanted to check I mean I'm very passionate about food waste but we have to people have to be educated you know and it's like for
home composting you don't want to do Meats fats or cheeses because it takes you know longer and it will attract animals if you do just the vegetative the bakery you know floral then you can do that then you can add you know your clippings from you know
taking care of your trees your shrubs and then you turn it periodically and then reapply it and then you start the cycle where you're doing it and then next year you don't have to buy fertilizer you don't have to buy soil amendments
yeah you're renewable regenerative you got anything else nothing I was looking to see if anony say anything new the last I spoke to Anthony W was a month ago well not quite February 28th he said he appreciate his help and moving I don't know what's
happening I I'll try to get a hold of him again okay uh so we talked about the stream cleanup I think we're we're good we're out of there now yeah out business mayor's comp business has required by
the Commissioners no okay open we we got a sad news but it's at the state level um one of the permits for the wind um energy um was revoked today so oh no what Happ one of the wind energy permits
was was that sounds like on the federal area they have to they have to resubmit again yeah they just postponing we knew it was going to happen um so um I look at a motion now to open the floor again for yes
comments second yes public yes yeah public comments All favor i j Brant 22 Bryant yeah um so the you when you guys were reviewing that Eli
Warehouse yeah so I you know I was wondering cuz I know we have that warehouse resolution in place but it looked like that that warehouse was um that application was signed in 2022 so that's why it's going forward yeah okay so I I was wondering um you
know with the and I think this Thursday evening there's a meeting you know about the traffic study and the township and I don't know if any of you all have attended it but they're going over where depending on the Warehouse size and where it's located you know it should be
a certain amount of distance from the highway and all so I'm just wondering if you're when you're looking over these applications even though that hasn't been instituted yet it's been very interesting how they're doing this new traffic study and Warehouse placement is
anybody familiar with that no I've looked at it um we haven't started implementing that as part of our review because it's not an approved document and yeah so it's not in place but yeah we're I mean once that's approved we'll add that to our Greenland development check list yeah and for anybody who
wants to it's this Thursday where they're discussing again and it's it makes a lot of sense it depends on the warehouse size and um you know how again how close it is to the the highway and how big it should be so um and and it also and one of the reasons why is most
of the intersections in Franklin Township are like you know grade DF as far as trucks and and they're just trying to make that that better so um so that was about that um and then this is more maybe Paul will know this so to
save the most so I live in a community it's an HOA Canal Walk and you know we have um it's a senior community so somebody comes and mows our lawn and all so I don't know if you've ever presented these kind of things because it would save our community money as far as
having them the mow and whatnot we did talk about it last year but not didn't get anywhere yeah now now we have new board members it's possible that we could get somewhere even if we move the the starting mowing down just one week
make a house and would save us a little money right and you know the same thing with the chemicals they're putting in and whatnot so are you going to try that PA with our new yeah good luck with that okay yeah you're exactly right um yeah because everything has to look pristine
it can't you know be too overgrown um and then the compost I know I'm in the environmental Committee in Canal Walk we have an environmental committee and all and they talked about composting and about getting the containers and whatnot and I haven't heard much since so I was
wondering about that I mentioned that when I came in I think uh we're waiting for them tourists to get their insurance policy that's that's the holdup there's few volunteers but if they're coming on with pickup trucks to pick up or cars to pick up 5 gallon
pales they need to be insured so who needs to be insured then doing the pickup kids oh it's insurance so Robin put them in touch with an insurance company and they're working with this lady d and they're fine-tuning what they need okay
but they need liability insurance and they need they have auto insurance because they're driving cars right but it has to cover it also has to name Canal Walk as well as you know the the HOA has to be additionally insured so is this a a volunteer organization that's
doing it no nonprofit it's a nonprofit a group of high school and college kids that have started picking up food compost you get a 5 gallon pale with a a seal top and um um Tom already said we
could put him on the patios so I talked to him about it so I did I had discuss with Tom um and um David has about David's the head of the Environmental Group at Canal Walk he's the one that came here was going to be on the on the commission and then never F followed up
but um so we've been working with him and he's got about 15 20 people that have already said yeah they want to do it we're just waiting for taus to say or D to say here's the insurance policy once we have that we're ready to go okay
um and well I just want to say my opinion that when they created their business model they did not have the insurance in place no and uh you know their Profit Stream is kind of non-existent so I'm just saying that be
prepared that maybe they they should ask for money because they they wanted to have it free at the beginning but I'm not sure that whether they can yeah they can sustain it even now could be some donor will supply them the policy you
know but they what they said was originally that they would do it for 6 months for free if they had two people within a one mile five people with with a one M radius well can I walk that's no problem right but Bru came back to board
and said they have to have insurance like any vendor comes in they can now work but that's added cost yeah so that's what's and Robin who's not here tonight she gave this Anthony woo her card because she has an insurance agency but she put him in touch with it one
that covers this specific stuff and David and I and Ellen went down to Trenton and ordered the bio Trenton biog gas because that's what they do with the food waste take it down to Trenton biogas and they and in Rob he generate a
gas which Powers a general electric generator which feed Public Service they they charge them to tipping fee thought that they would actually give them money for giving them uh food for the bioreactor but it's actually
opposite so it could be in the 3 to four hours of pale every two weeks type maybe they don't that's what they they don't know what the cost will be until they find out well now they didn't know they need an insurance cost so we'll see what
happens thank you yeah no and then my last question you know um the uh the council had distributed um the purple air monitors you know a while back to like all the Senior Communities and to the schools and all and actually the one
for Canal Walk is in my backyard because it was never working when Tom was in charge of it you know so I have in my backyard and it's a really nice you know you could go online and see what the the air quality is I know Robin was measuring for what what is it measuring
for it's measuring the the particulate matter particulate what the trailer trucks are putting on right right oh okay yeah yeah now if you go to like purple air and you put in like our ZIP code and you can see them you know all around and all and
definitely in areas that are more uh you know where traffic is more populated with trucks you might be a little bit higher like back when we had those um fires from Canada you know they're very useful yeah you know it it's it's you
and for a senior community and for schools I remember one time the school up the street the um Magnet School on metler you know where I I was checking it and it was you know really high in that area so you know but anyway I'm just wondering it seems like a really
good tool even though it's not I know Robin sudam said you know there's ones out there that are more You Know instrumental and they're calculated and you know different than these but really these on the most part um calculate this number for us and I'm just wondering if
you all would be interested in you know going to the township Council and asking for more of them I want to say I think they're only well back maybe a year or two ago maybe they were like $100 a piece but it would be nice for them maybe to be in other areas and you you know get a a better accounting but right
now it's at all the schools and it's in the township building I in the count Municipal building and it's are instant read yeah instant read so I mean I'm used to you know putting out monitors when I worked at the safety office at ruter we would get them and then we'd sent them to a lab to have them analyze
but this is instant read this is instant read and the thing is is why it's good for our community is because one time I checked you know how you could go to I think it's air something and it's like the the readings and they're like out in New Brunswick they're not really close to this area but with the proliferation
of all these warehouses and diesel trucks in our area it just seems to make sense to you know why not especially like I don't know if any are out in the Veronica area so the readings are made public you you could just go online and
and look it up you know I could send the the link to you know Tera and um and she their accuracy is good I mean you know it's not a it's not a scientific tool you know like anybody could buy it so I
know I know it has to have some sort of got some stand it has to be standardized yeah Town wouldn't aboard it other way I mean town is who suppli it you know what I'll send you all the information maybe you could you know just think of what you're meeting and um was and and talk
about it and just check out the you know the quality I mean it was really nice when it it happened when you know we were going to the ccil meetings and we're worried about the diesel and there's no measurements of you know what's happening in our community so it's it's just a nice tool to
have thank you yeah away CU that's when we always had to watch at work okay yeah can't do this unless it's this go is no more comments we'll close the
comment period all in favor second second next thing to do is to make a motion for adjournments so move than all in favor supions okay