Good evening everybody. Uh it is Monday, May 19th, 2025, 6 p.m. and I'll call to order the free time board of soccer meeting. Uh this tonight's meeting will be on Zoom. Um it will be recorded and it will be available on the town's
YouTube page. Um tonight we will be going into executive session and then coming back into open session. We'll be going into executive session for the following reason. Mass General Law Chapter 3A section 21A3 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining with the Freetown Police
Association because the open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining position of the public body and the chair. So declares and I do. So with that I will entertain a motion to go into executive session. Motion made. I second. All in favor? I I
select Loss. Yes. Select Zer. Yes. Selectman Matthews. Yes. All right. We are now in executive session. All right, we are now back in open session from executive session. I'm going to move on to agenda item two. This is discussion and vote whether approve open session minutes from 4:14
2025. Uh I'll motion to approve those open session minutes. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I I Yes. Matthews. Yes. Jet item two, presentation of the hazard mitigation plan from town planner. Nancy, hello. Hi. How are you?
Excellent. How are you? Yeah, I'm well, thank you. Thank you for having me tonight. I wouldn't know is is Craig Pereira on Zoom as well. Okay, great. Um, as you know, the town has recently committed and completed their has a mitigation plan. Um it was went through
the process of a very rigorous community outreach program and the building of it and Craig Pereira who is from Horses win was a big portion of this planning process as well as as as Deb and Victoria your previous land use planner
and also I'd like to give a shout out to Harry Ashley, Paul Ashley Carbazaro, Chuck Mhamumber and Scott Rose for assisting with this process because you know it takes a team to put these plans together. Um, so I don't know if if
Craig can speak to it or if he wishes for me to continue. Hi, thanks Nancy. Um, hi everybody. Um, so yeah, this is really just a formality. Um, the town has received a letter from FEMA that the hazard mitigation plan draft that was submitted
back at the end of 2024 has been approved pending adoption. So now the only remaining step is that the town uh that the select board formally adopt the um hazard mitigation plan as presented back in August to this same group of of
folks um and just sign the resolution. Nancy will provide me with a copy of the resolution. I will insert that back into the draft plan. I will submit that plan with the assigned resolution to MIMA. MIMA will then
forward that plan to FEMA for their records and then the town will receive a letter from FEMA stating that the hazard mitigation plan is now compliant and in place and good for the next five years. Awesome. Thank you, Craig. Sure. Thank
you. Any questions or concerns on this? No. Now we So we already did the presentation back in August, right? So I don't think we need to go through that again. Is that fair? No. and and like I said, a lot of the department heads were involved as Nancy um stated. So, a lot
of the information came from people that are working in it. So, um excited to get it done. Yeah, I appreciate everyone's hard work on this. Yeah, it it opens you up to opportunities that you otherwise wouldn't be available to Yeah. If a disaster should occur um and they
declare um a presidential declaration, then Massachusetts would get funds and you would be available to do mitigation projects, things that you recognize during the event that would need to be corrected. And it also opens up the door for hazard mitigation projects as well. Things that you know are already
problematic that you want to fix in advance. Yep. I'm sure we have quite a few uh opportunities. We'll call them there. So, yeah. All right. All right. So with that, so um I'll enter intend a motion to adopt the hazard mitigation plan as stated in the packet. Motion
made second. All in favor? I I Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you. So moving on to agenda item. That was four, right? Yeah. So to
agenda item five, um discussion of vote whether to approve and sign the letter of support for the uh limited what is it? Uh the Lula which is limited act limited I I I wanted to remember this
and I forgot it. limited use limited application elevator um at the uh left at the council of aging grant application for municipal ADA improvement program proposal. Um,
so this obviously is uh something we need to get, right? And so why don't we speak to a little bit more about this and kind of where we Yeah, I'll be I'll be happy to to touch on this. The the town um has uh
completed their self-evaluation plan in 2023. This builds on the work that you have already been doing to address any accessibility in your municipal buildings. Um the COA as you know runs a host of various programs are very active
as well as many meetings uh take place there. So it's multifaceted facility and it will allow the opportunity for people to access not only the first floor but for those who who would need it to access access the second floor. I know
Rebecca, the COA director, has provided countless programs and she can provide unfortunately too many stories of how someone may not have been able to just immediately just been able to go up to the second floor but has to go through that extra effort to get back into their
car to drive around. This will help avoid that. So, this will great. Yeah, I'm very excited. I think this good addition. Any elevators in any of our No. Where? No. First one. Well, this is this is not an elevator. Yeah, it's a
Sorry. So, yeah, this will be the first one. So, that'll be it'll be good to have. And I I recently had a meeting with the board at the COA and they they are seeing more and more of the need for this. So, they are 100% on board. Um, and the town has funded the engineering
plan and that's been paid for already out of funds. So, we are committed to trying to get this uh lift over to the COA to to for their community and and anybody that might need um that extra access ability. All right. Awesome.
Okay. So, with that, I wanted a motion to approve and sign a letter of support for the LUA Lift at Council on Aging Grant application for municipal ADA improvement program proposal. Motion made second. All in favor? I I Matthews, yes. the first one to use
it. Passed it up. All right, moving on to agenda item six. Discussion of vote whether to approve the license between the town of Freetown and the Freetown um regional food pantry to utilize the former police station effective 68 2025 through 6:30
2027. Wow. So that means that we has it already been operating for three years now. We did two years. Two years. Okay. So yeah, sorry. Two years. I meant you did two and two. Not great at math. They've already been four years. Four years. Two. Yeah, twice. I was going to say I was going to say it feels it's
wild. Okay. So, any I looked at the contract, nothing jumped out at me. It's It's the same. It's the same. Any questions or concerns on that? Absolutely. Yeah. Um I know we did run into a little issue with the the heat,
but at one point just paying for it and kind of Well, we build them, they pay us. I think that I mean, yeah, utilities are difficult for them because they're not really raising funds. Yeah. They're they're literally a nonprofit in in its truest form where they're actually putting all the money they get back into
the what they do, which is feed people. Mhm. They use it a lot for the gas for the trucks to um to run their vehicles to get the food. Yeah. They're driving a lot of different places now. So, picking up stuff. Be surprised at how many like Amazon facilities and different places
they're going to pick up. Oh, yeah. So, it's not just Stop and Shop bringing them stuff, which we appreciate because I obviously they're the biggest supporter. And it's Yeah, it's great that Stop Shop is actually going to be stuck sticking around now. You know, we had a little scare there for a moment, but then I know they're a huge contributor to our food pantry. So, that's that's that's great for for the
folks in town. Okay. So, we could vote on this? Yep. All right. All right. So without entertain a motion to approve the license between the town of Freetown and the Freetown Regional Food Pantry to utilize a former police station effective 68 2025 through 6:30 2027. Motion made. Second. All in
favor? I. I. Flew Lopes. Yes. Dagger. Yes. Black Matthews. Yes. Okay. Moving on. Agenda item seven. discussion to vote whether to approve yoga at Hathway Park every Wednesday from August 13th to September
24th from 6:30 to uh 6:30 to 5:30 to 6:30 p.m. Rain dates on the Thursday of the same week. Yeah. So, it's just going to be the same group as the last time. Open Doors Yoga Studio. Um I already had people ask me
on Zoom and like when's yoga happen again? Is it going to happen this year? Um so, yes, it will. I already talked to them and they're totally on board. Um, I'm really excited. Last year we had a really good group of people. This year we have a great group of people at Zumba. Actually, I was just telling
Nancy, Rebecca and I went last week and we're dancing. So, it was a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to yoga again hopefully. Great. Good stuff. Yeah, keep it coming. Yeah. Yeah. I need to do some yoga. I've You need to do this, too. I need to That's what I'm thinking. I really got
to make it this year. I'm obsessed. Let's go over to the Zumba. Yeah, I'll be honest. I have no business doing that. All right. Uh Okay. So, with that, um I'll entertain a motion to approve Yoga Hathway Park every Wednesday from August
13th through August uh through September 24th from 5:30 to 6:30 p.m. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. I. Sleman Lopes. Yes. Sman Zer. Yes. Matthews, yes. All right, moving on. Agenda item eight.
This is discussion to vote whether approve the summer concert series parking map. We're looking at now. So this is Sona Ban. So all the parking is everything in red. Uh no parking. No, that's no parking. Sorry.
Yeah. So parking at like town hall. Mhm. The church, Catholic park. It's crazy we have such a parking like school parking like for a town with so much space we have no parking. It's crazy. Uh I think this makes sense because it's
keeping people off of the the road areas that Yeah. Yeah. I believe you work with the police chief on this to I did and Sergeant Ashley as well kind of things. Where is School Street? I've been in that church I don't know how many times. I've never seen a road
back there. And the church has given you approval for this? Yes. Oh, that's nice. So, that's huge. That was really nice of them. Oh my gosh, they're fantastic. School. Such kind people. Yeah. Yeah. Um, that makes sense, right? Is it any
different than last year? Really? Uh, with the exception of the grandpa's parking lot. Oh, van parking. Got it. Yeah. that because I kind of get overzealous. We'll say that. Makes sense. And I put to like um right
in front of the like band like designated handicap parking because that got a little tricky. Um I had Chuck bring like those signs, but even then like especially if people are trying to pull in and they don't have the handicap placard, then they have to back out in a
very busy street. rather people know right off the ribated parking that makes sense. All right, looks good to me. I think it's the best we can do under given the circumstances. Mhm. Right. Yep. Okay. So, with that, I'll entertain a motion
to approve the summer concert series parking map. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. I. Select Lopes. Yes. Select Zer. Yes. Selectman Matthews. Yes. All right. And then agenda item nine. This is um
for the children's music program, which I also need to put this in my calendar because I will be going to that. Uh okay. So this agenda item nine, discussion of vote whether to approve use of the band stand on August 13th,
2025 from 1:30 to 4 p.m. for a children's music program facilitated by the library. That sounds awesome. Mhm. There's no rain date. They didn't provide one. We should we put one in there for them so we don't they don't
have to come back for approval. I don't know. Wouldn't know when the vendor is available or Yeah. Okay. So, I always won't worry about it. But it's not going to rain. It's not rain. I like that. Okay. Any questions or concerns? Anyone have an issue with children's
music festivals? I'll see you there programs. Okay. So, with that, I'll intend a motion to approve the use of the band stand on August 13th, 2025 from 1:30 to 4 p.m. for a children's music program facilitated by a library. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. I. Sleman
Lopes. Yes. Slickman Zagar. Yes. Sleman Matthews. 27. If you want to jump to that. Okay. Seven. Are you here for 27 as well? Yes. Okay. Well, we're going to do you a solid here. This is a free agenda. All right.
So, um agenda, we're going to skip down agenda item 27. So, this discussion of vote uh proposed changes to the MBTA Communities Act zoning amendment. Look at me when I agend. Um so, basically, we had brought this before the board
earlier. Um, I Nancy worked really diligently on it because we were short on time and created this MBTA Communities Act zoning that we are required by the state to try to meet uh
the density of 16 units per acre uh to get 750 additional units. But after reviewing it and going to the planning board meeting and realizing um obviously we have a mixeduse zone that allows commercial business in the zone which is a great area for it that it was
all by right no oversight whatsoever. Um we discussed and felt it was prudent to put in this uh the businesses have by special permit. still have to come before the planning board and just run it by them and and go through, you know,
the special permit process for a business. The housing is by right because it needs to be by right to meet the housing comm community, the communities act. Um, so you'll see Nancy prepared this and highlighted what changed. It's just saying that you have to go undergo a a special permit for
businesses in that peeud zone because you know that that's really important because you know that there are going to be businesses that are uh maybe have issues getting to some communities are going to immediately take advantage of this. if there's if they they think they
can bi bypass every single planning board and everything else, they're going to target us and we'll have a bunch of businesses that we do not want in our town, right? So, that's I think that's really great. Not not that this is I mean I know it was an uphill battle to
for this to pass anyways, right? But um unfortunately we have some headwinds there. There is some headwinds. My concern was if it didn't have that in there and it did get passed because we don't know. I mean, we're all assuming that it's not going to pass, but maybe
it will. I mean, I don't know. I'm I'm have, you know, I'll I'll have more information. Okay. I don't think we've actually felt the effects of what this is going to look like to the town as far as they taking our grant monies away. We know that it's going to take our regularly received grants away, which
will run around $100,000 a year. That is not going to be our biggest impact. You just heard Nancy ask, you know, she's putting in a grant from the Lulu Lift. That's what are we asking for? It's 1705,000. I mean, that's one of the things that we may not get. Yeah. Where
where I think it's really going to impact us. And I've I don't know if I've done a great job of articulating this yet, but it is all those kind of design grants that you need in order to get the actual real money grant in order to to do some kind of project. Oh, the right.
So, so we won't even be able to get off the ground with some important, you know, like the COA library stuff like we've gotten a lot of grants just to get the design together. So, then we can go and try to get a federal grant or state what you know. So, it just it kind of chops us off at the knees there, right?
Where we can't even get started on stuff. And we have a lot of grant applications in the works, right? So, we've we the library grant is we we're in the middle of that one, but the construction piece of that which is a big one. NY's working on this is the ADA grant. We're working on um doing some
road improvements over by Granny Road and um that that's a big one too that we're asking for, right? Yeah. I don't have a dollar figure for that one as of yet, but that one will also get impacted. Uh the four corners the four corners area as well. and and so many of
the things that you know you need in order to make some of these improvements, it helps to have those extra dollars that you wouldn't have to the towns and you know people themselves wouldn't have to shoulder the burden um because they may need to be fixed. Yeah. Right. But those aren't guaranteed.
That's one thing we have to let people know. It's what I hear a lot out there is people are throwing the grant conversation in there. Yes. It's part of the conversation. It's not the full conversation. Can we deny it be denied? Yes. but we could also get them as well, right? So, we don't know that. And there's also a mechanism now that you
can go back to the state and say, "Hey, we we got the United Grant. Can we reapply? Can we have a I not sure the process yet, but there's a way to go back to the state and ask them to rec reconsider the denial." So, that's also part of the conversation.
Yeah. I don't know how that's going to be. I know that they've been pretty specific about they're going to take this grant money away and they're they're actually talking about getting tougher and they actually um they're actually setting up new grants for people who have passed the MBTA Communities Act. So, they're going
to get a lot more money and so but I I mean it's we don't know for sure. Yeah, I could see the car like I understand the carrot. I I don't I don't really I don't like the stick that they're using, right, where taking away what we already have, right? But I understand giving
incentive grants to other towns that do it. That makes sense to me. I can understand that. But yeah, regardless, we're not going to solve that problem right now. But um I think it is important to have this language in here to protect ourselves from uh you know, if and when this does go through. It was
a great catch that it was caught and it was added. So, thank you guys. I think it's it was just one of those it you know, we we had limited time to get this where it is at. Um, but at least I figure if it passes, we're some protection for the town. Okay. So, yeah.
So, I want you ready to vote on those changes? Yeah, sure. Okay. So, with that, I'll entertain a motion to um to approve the proposed changes to the MTA Communities Act zoning amendment. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I I loses. Yes. Zagger. Yes. Blackman Matthews.
Yes. No, just thank you. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. So, now I'm going to jump back up to agenda item 10. Uh, this is discussion of vote whether to accept a donation from the Tuesday club towards Boston Science Museum and Boston Children's Museum
discount passes for the museum pass program at the sum of $300. That's awesome. Any questions or concerns on this? No. Okay. So, with that, I'll enter a motion to accept the donations. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I I select. Yes. Selectman Zar. Yes. Sman
Matthews. Yes. Okay. Then item 11, discussion of vote whether to approve the application for event at Patches Hill Farm on 621 through 622 2025. So you're here for this uh one?
Absolutely. Brought some awesome RC cars. Brought brought a few examples. Uh so we're we're asking permission this year to once again uh at the farm host uh an event uh gathering of scale truck builders and enthusiasts to come out and
it's basically a a micro car show. Think of it that way. So there's all kinds of different builds. Um we have construction equipment. Um we have trucks that go on the trails. Um we have different size trucks. These are 110s and these are 124ths. But, uh, we've got
some trails set up throughout the property that that people are able to drive the trucks on. Um, we've got a few food vendors that are set up, uh, to come. We have Annie's Ice Cream scheduled to to show up this year again. And, um, looking to, you know, just have
another fun day at the farm. Awesome. And this is this How many years is this now? So, this is actually the third year that we've done it. Yeah. Yep. Awesome. Um, well, I'm excited. Any any questions or concerns? Can I bring my own car? Absolutely. Fantastic.
This you got to get Did you take care of permitting with um board of health? So, I believe all the necessary paperwork was in uh best of my knowledge. We had the board of health signature. I haven't seen the paperwork since it's gone around the town. So, okay. Hoping to
maybe find out tonight. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. But beyond that, that sounds great to me. I only asked because it was signed off on and it says food permits required. So I just didn't know if the permits were issued or not. So that's that's why I asked just to get out ahead of it. So
you didn't Our food vendors have an understanding that they have to get their uh town permit uh through the health department themselves. So I believe that we have the acceptance of the health department with those conditions that the individual food vendors still need to make sure that they've got all their uh necessary
permits in place. Perfect. Yeah. Thank you. So, all the other paperwork's in good. All right. Awesome. So, with that, I'll entertain a motion to um Sorry, let me get to my right spot
here. Uh I a motion to approve the application for an event patch on 621 through 622 2025. Motion made second. All in favor? I I Sleman Lopes, yes. Sleman Zager, yes. Sleman Matthews, yes. All set. Thank you. Good luck. I hope it
works out well for you. All right. Agenda item 12. This is um for the this is vote whether to approve the agreement between town free town and Cape Cod Aggregates
Corp. Uh for fiscal year 2026 for um Highway Sand. I looked at I didn't see a Is there a price in there? I just not see it. $26. You awarded it the last meeting. Okay. This is just the agreement, right? Correct. 26 per ton. I
try to go through these contracts and just find the numbers, you know, it matters, but sometimes. Mhm. This is a big packet. 235 pages. Okay. So, uh, we all go with this. Any questions or concerns? No. Okay. Okay. So with
that entertain a motion to approve the agreement between the town of Freetown and Cape Cod Aggregates Cor for fiscal year 26 for the highway for highway sand. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. Sleman Lobes. Yes. Sleman Zagar. Yes. Sman Matthews. Yes. Next we have ambulance abatements for
April 2025 for for $25,56459. Any questions or concerns with that? No. big number, but we we the chief did that analysis last time and it's all relative.
Okay. So, with that, I'll entertain a motion to approve the April abatements right off. A motion made. Second. All in favor? I I. Slew Lopes. Yes. Slew Zagger. Yes. Slew Matthews. Yes. Item 14. This is to approve the
agreement for the Lulu Lula lift. Um and it's um start this is an extension of the agreement that we had. Um they did the they did the engineering for the Lula lift in
their agreement. They also are going to do the the bidding u but they're the um contracts going to expire. So this is an extension of that. So that um if we don't get the grant um we're still going to move forward I think if the town meeting vote approves
the reallocation of the COA funding um with a little lift and either way it has to go out to bid you know you know so um they'll do that paperwork for it so we need to extend their contract until we know what we're doing. All right, sounds good. All right, so with
that I'll enter a motion to approve the agreement between the town of Freetown Stark Architects Inc. for architectural and engineering services for the LU lift at the consult agent expiring on 6:30 2026. I have a motion made second. All in favor? I I Suckman Lopes. Yes. Suckermanman Zagger. Yes. Suckman Matthews. Yes. All right. Agenda item
15. Discussion to vote whether to approve the agreement to the town of Freetown and Greater New Beford Regional Refuse Refuge Management District for solid waste disposal effective 712025 through 6:30 2026. This is for the dump, right? for the uh Crypo Hill. Yep.
And uh I read the email in that packet there. We're getting a nice a good rate. We are getting a good rate and we're lucky that we can continue to only another year contract, right?
Correct. We wish we could get it longer, but that's all they're willing to to offer. Yes. And there was one thing in there about uh the trucks like a new requirement that the trucks they know what town it's from so that we don't get charged for I just
want to make sure that our I mean I'm sure Forges knows what's going on there. I didn't see that. So it's in the email it says section 10.3 running um labeling vehicles what was added this intent of the provision is to reduce the potent
potential that a hauler delivers waste from outside of the town or the town's account at the landfall and the town gets build for it 10.3 okay I see that makes sense it does make sense I'm sure like it's probably not a problem for us
because like like you know the trucks are labeled Yeah, I will I will make sure that uh Borg just is aware of this and that they they comply with this. Okay. All right. Great. So, that's just
want to make sure we don't get caught off guard with that. Okay. So, with that, I'll um I want to get a motion to approve the agreement to the town of Freetown and uh Green New Beford Refuge. Am I saying that right? Management district for solid waste disposal
effective 7125 through 630 2026. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. Sleman Lopes. Yes. Sleman Zagger. Yes. Matthews. Yes. All right. Agenda item 16. Cooking here now folks. Um this is
discussion of awarding the OPM services for planning and design phase of the combined library COA building. And it's going to be so P3 project planning came in or
they had the the highest rating, right, of the three, right? It was a um quite the rating process. Yes, it is quite the process. The committee voted to bring in four four of the 11 applications based
on really their experience with COAs and libraries in particular the library grant which is a very particular process as well out of they brought in those four they did presentations in front of them one had withdrawn so there were three presentations and then they ranked
them one through three and uh P3 came out ranked the highest and then I negotiated iated with them and as long as I could negotiate a a fair rate for the town um we go into contract. So we don't have to go but it's not necessarily by in this it's not by money
but by money which is one of the this is one of those situations where we can money doesn't even isn't even in their bid. Yeah it's after the fact but their bid came in very low I think in comparison to what other towns are doing. Um, and I think that's surprising cons
considering we have a joint building, right? Other towns are just doing the library. So, the price was $30,000, which I thought was more than fair for the amount of work that's involved here. In fact, I think it's really a really good rate. But, of course, their hope is to get the construction phase of this
project. Yeah, that makes sense. It's this is a loss leader for them. room. So, yeah, this is so this is just to get to know the town probably and the players involved, but um so far so good. Uh they seem to be good and so that's
where we're at. All right, great. So, with that um I'll entertain a motion to award the OPM service for the plan for planning services for planning and design phase of the combined library COA to P3 project planning. Motion made second. All in favor? I I Sleman Lopes.
Yes. Slickman Zagger. Yes. Sleman Matthews, yes. All right. Agenda item 17. Discussion of vote whether to approve the agreement between the town of Freetown and P3 project planning professionals for OPM services and planning and design fees that combine
library COA building as we just talked about. Any questions or concerns? No. No. Okay. So, with that, I want to a motion to approve the agreement between sound free town and P3 U project planning. A motion made. Second. All in favor? I I Lopes. Yes. Blackman Zagger.
Yes. Blackman Matthews. Yes. All right. Agenda item 18. Discussion of vote whether approve the quote and agreement between the town of Freetown and Air Masters for HVAC at the town hall. Air Masters is also the name of a
snowboard company. [Music] Um my packet is very slow here. They're going to put in, I think, two mini splits on the second floor of the town hall. Um, so that we have central
air conditioning. That sounds exciting. Heat. It will also help with heat. So, we've met them out there on site. Said, yeah, I noticed one thing. It said the excluded items or the asbestous testing absence, but is that is that
just kind of common language? I know we've run into issues with that in the past with town hall. Yep. Um that and we're going to have to build the chase and chase for the pipes because they we didn't want all these pipes running all over the outside of the building being it's a historical building. Yeah. So
they're going to run them through the attic and then down down into the basement and out the back. So we need to build a chase. So there are pieces of this that we will have to work on getting done that are outside of the contract. Okay. And then another part of it. So it's like they they're going to
go and facilitate the uh massive rebate. Yes. And so it's like it's 15 grand in the contract. Like that is how does that work? That will go directly to them. As you'd see with the contract price, I put the the amount minus that rebate. So that they can't
get more than what they have to get that rebate for themselves. They have to get it. And is there any recourse if they can't get it for one reason or another? They're not getting paid any more than they out in the um Perfect. Any questions or concerns on that? No, I
like that idea. I guess my question is does it say we're getting four mini slits? Two Mitraishi indoor units and Okay, sorry. There one's the heat and then the outdoor units. So, not they're not the same one. They're four different units going to be outside.
So, phase one, the upstairs. Okay. Eagles will be up in the attic. Okay. that might want to drop them onto the second floor and for the downstairs I come up from the the cellar from the outside into the cellar and then up to the floors. Okay. So, we won't see them if you're driving by and everything else we've
been in the back of the building mostly. You won't see the sides or the front. Okay. Yeah. My concern was the the whole historical piece of the building. We don't want to not that they're ugly because they're they kind of are as far as the units themselves, but at the end of the day,
the comfort of the employees are the most important thing and the visitors of course, which is our town residents. Thank you. All right. So, this looks reasonable. Any questions, concerns? Anything else? No,
I'm good. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So, for agenda item 18. So, um, I'll entertain a motion to approve the quote and agreement between the town of Freetown and Air Masters for HVAC at the town hall. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. I. Selectman Lopes. Yes. Selectman Zagar. Yes. Selectman
Matthews. Yes. All right. Agenda item 19, discussion of vote warning the installation and ongoing support of a fiber optic municipal area network bid. We had two. Is this the one? I saw the bids were like $500,000 off. Mhm. Yeah,
more than that, I think. Yeah. Yeah, more than that. So, we got two different bids. CavCcom LLC was at 1.1 1.3 million and then contract was 460,000. That seems weird. It does.
Same. I mean, is this is like do we have a well-defined kind of uh Yeah, we actually paid for someone to create the whole bid documents. So, it's pretty much in there, but there are a lot of unknowns. And I think that when you get into these projects, I
think the second bidder was just putting a lot of padding in case because they didn't know what they were going to get into or they really didn't want the project for some one reason or another. I I've done that before and I actually got the project unfortunately.
Dealing with repercussions right now. So, um yeah, to be off 900 almost $900,000 is crazy. It's just Yeah. It's good if it means that they we're going to get the One of the things
that I put in there that was that the town like it's all on them. They can't come back to the town for police details. They can't come back to the town for X Y and Z because that's where you really get into trouble, right? It's a big project. And so I think that's why the second company
really wanted to make sure they were okay. You know what I mean? You get prevailing wages. You might have police details all over the place. Some places you might have to go underground. All of it. I wanted them to to take on them so that there because there's no room for the town. It is what it is. We only have
what we have for our budget. Um, so I think that's why when you don't there's there were I think things they were afraid they were going to run into that and they couldn't come back and charge us for Mhm. So just to be clear, so what what are we like are we recommending contract here? The
the white cheap one. Okay. Just want to make sure we're on the same page. Mhm. Okay. Any questions or concerns? No. No. That's a great project. Yeah. I'm excited for it. Okay. So with that, I'll enter intend a motion to award the installation and
ongoing support of a fiber one fiber one fiber optic municipal area network bid to comra total quote detail is $460,654. Motion made second. All in favor? I sle
zer. Yes. Fuckman Matthews. Yes. Okay. Agenda item 20. Discussion of vote whether to approve and sign the quote from door and glass innovations for the ADA front door installation at the town hall here is four grand I want to say
$3,900. Any questions or concerns with this? No, that's a great price. Yeah, I just I just got like triple the price to put a French door in my house. I need to talk to these guys. All right. So, with that, I'll entertain a
motion to approve and sign the quote from uh for from door and glass innovations for the ADA front door installation at town hall. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I I selectman Lopes. Yes. Selectman Zer. Yes. Sman Matthews. Yes. All
right. Item 21. Discussion of whether approve sign the estimate from um Garnet Well and Pump Services. Garnet. Am I saying that right? Uh for Washborne Library well repairs. $4,89. This is for the pump, right? We
had to put a new well in at um the White Library. And this is the pump that I think goes along with that. Seems reasonable. Any questions or concerns? No. This individual, he's a machine. I don't know if you ever had Garnet come to your house. He's a older
gentleman, but he is he moves. So good for I'm glad to see him on the on this estimate. All right. Good guy. All right. So with that, entertain a motion to uh approve and sign the estimate from Garnet Well and Pub Services for the
Washurn Library Repairs. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I. Plman Lopes. Yes. Fleckman Zer. Yes. Fuckman Matthews. Yes. Okay. So I think we're at 7:00. So, we'll stop here. Agenda item 22. We'll do the
hearing and then we'll come back to this. All right. So, we're are we unsure whether I have to read the whole hearing or not? I don't think we got clarity on that. I'm going to I'll saution and read it. Okay. Not sure if I have to actually read the public hearing or not, but I'm going to do it just in case we do.
All right. So, this is a public hearing notice from 4:15 2025. Continued from 3:18 uh 2025 to 55 2025 and then now to 519 2020 25. Verizon New England Inc. and Nstar Electric Company DBA. Eversource
energy um Eversource Energy requests permission to locate poles, wires, cables, and fixtures, including the necessary anchors, guides, and other such standing and protecting fixtures to be owned and used in in common by your petitioner along and across the following public way or ways. Chase Road
installing one J midspan pole on the east side of Chase Road- Jop 52 and a half. The new pole will be installed in line with approximately 30 feet uh in line within approximately 30 ft south of existing
pole JOP 52 and approximately 101 ft north of existing pole JOP 53. The installation is being requested by Eversource to support three new three-phase service to 89 Chase Road and to provide the distribution of intelligence and telecommunications and
the transmission of high and low voltage electric current. Wherefore they pray that after due notice and hearing as provided by law, they be granted joint and identical location for and permission to erect and maintain poles, wires, and cables together with anchors, guys, and other such sustaining and
protective features as they may find necessary. Said pole be erected uh substantially in accordance with the plan filed herewith marked 1 A7WE uh B dated February 10, 2025. Also for permission to lay and maintain
underground laterals, cables and wires in above or intersecting public ways for the public purpose of making connections uh with such poles and buildings as each of said petitioners may desire for distri distributing
purposes. Uh your petitioner agrees that space shall be reserved and maintained for limited purpose of in attaching one-way low voltage wires and police wires owned by the municipality or government governmental entity for public safety purposes only. And a public
hearing will be at a disc uh will public hearing to discuss this request be held on May 5th, 2025 at 7 p.m. Police Station Committee room 310 time. All right. So u with that open the public hearing. Um,
we have continuing with the public hearing. Oh, sorry. Continuing the public hearing spoke there. All right. So, where do we start here? Carl, I know you're here on for this. Good evening. You also have Kate Rugman on the line. I'm not sure whether my
colleague Mike um was the uh representative last time. So, I just want to make sure somebody's here as well as I know he had some scheduling conflicts. here for uh Verizon. Yeah. Thank Okay. Thank you. Yep.
All right. Where So I think I missed the last hearing we had on this. Yes. Yes. So basically the uh Verizon has um hired a consultant to come in and get a poll put in on Chase Road um 89 Chase
Road. There were uh so this is a hearing for that. I think we have town council on Zoom as well. Um this this hearing is pretty much about that, but of course concerns came up during that meeting at 89 Chase Road. Yeah. So
um the the meeting was continued until some some more information could be brought forth. But one of my concerns is that this is just about the poll. So I think that really you need to talk about the poll. I know there's some issues at 89 Chase Road and both our health agent
and our building commissioner are here to tell you where they stand with um some further followup after getting the complaints about 89 Chase Road. But at the end of the day, the poll, unless you know the board deems that it's not safe to put this pole, which is your
prerogative to determine that, it really is not going to be based on what the use of the electricity being hung on the pole is is is going to be um used for. So, I don't know if you want to discuss the pool and whether you feel that it's safe in the public roadway um and start
there or you want to um allow the um some public to some input and and in and their cons, you know, voice their concerns because they've come here consistently. and let the building inspector or commissioner and health
agent just discuss where they're at because they have been working diligently on these complaints and and following up on them. Um and they they have a little bit, you know, they came tonight, let you know where they're at with that. Yeah.
Yeah. Guess somebody want to fill me in where we stand. Yeah, that'd be great. Thank you. Can you just hit your microphone? We've received We've received complaints about the general area for months now. Probably
goes back a year. We investigate the complaints as they come in. Uh the biggest complaints we had were and again uh this is a poll hearing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, understood. Okay. So, I got
called in uh to just let you know where I stand. I forwarded immediately after that meeting and I'll apologize to the board. Apparently, there was an omission from a date on a inspection form so that there's no confusion. It's an electronic
document. I simply went back in my computer and found the date it was generated. So hopefully that clears up any confusion that might have been caused by the date not being on there. There are other inspections that I've also forwarded to you. Just some of them, not all of them. Additionally,
have I forwarded the meeting minutes where I've brought this issue up to my board of health and asked them to go out and do an inspection and and to look into this and and other things. So, while there might not be a banner waving overt
action that we go around thumping our chest that, hey, look at what we're doing today, rest assured that as they come in, they're taken with the same uh seriousness as any other and they're looked at no matter who it
is. Um, and again, you will see that I brought this to the attention of the board of health multiple times over the last several months. Um, this past Friday, the board of health chairwoman Margaret French went out with myself. Um, as a followup to the your poll
hearing. So, that's where it stands currently with the board of health. Okay. Thanks, Kevin. All right. Uh, so Mr. Melo, I know you're here. This is you're this is on
your property, right? that that this so kind of just talk to us about why you need why the pole needs to be moved and just give us a little background uh so that we don't have to cross someone else's property. I I put up a building
uh on that part of 89 Chase Road and I just need to get power to it. It It's basic and simple. I I I'll answer any questions you got, but I I appreciate it. So So yeah, it's Frank
Berseron. I'm probably the reason why everybody's here. Just a really quick summary. I'm not going to go into big details, but in the past, our neighbor, there was a lot of issues there. And we continued to say maybe the town officials are seeing what we're seeing. Something's going to be
done. But years would go by, months, years, decade goes by, nobody does anything. So then you start to say when is something gonna happen? This is previous to you, Carl. Good point. Yeah. I always think this administration. Exactly. And I'm gonna I like I said,
whatever I say, I'd say to someone's face. I am not I'm not I'm not not saying things, but So I have nothing bad there. But what I'm trying to say is if you just sit by and say, "Well, the town officials will probably do something." Nothing has happened in the past. So we
were called here for this Abutters meeting. I I I understand the poll. The pole is the symbol, but what's the poll for? Because you just said it's been going on for a year. What steps like the smell is ridiculous at times? It's ridiculous.
And everybody there's multiple complaints. You guys know the probably the exact number, but how many neighbors have said enough already when I said is this is this three-phase for recycling? Miss Betty said there's no recycling going on over there. I said something about seashells. It's
like, well, you can have seashells. I don't see why you can't have seashells with meat and decomposing. So, at what point though, John, like do you denigrate the neighborhood where you can't have a picnic? You can't you don't know what the afternoon's going to bring or the day is going to bring because
when you step outside what we're going to have a three-phase tub grinder grinding up all those pallets. So, the question is what is happening? Because if we don't say it now, when do we say it? Just keep letting it happen and say maybe the town
officials will do something. Because I've said to these guys, I'm like, if I do something on my property in the past, if you get a letter from it's like you have 30 days to comply, you have x amount to this or this happens. When you say, oh, a year has gone. I'm like, oh,
they were working on it. I'm like, what are you wor like what are the steps? Nobody else gets that kind of language. Frank, thank you for the input and now we'll address it. Whatever I can do and explain there is Okay, go ahead. Speak.
You speak. You speak. I'm going to speak to the board. And John, I just give you a heads up. I'm I'm going to let you speak, but this is a poll hearing and we're have to This is the only way we can get everybody together. I understand, but I have to have the poll and I'm not I'm not rejecting the topic. Otherwise, we're going off of the If I
could, Mr. Chairman, you brought us here. How many times here if if Mr. Berseron would approach the the board of health who might actually have something to do in this in this instance would have some sort of authority and maybe if
he had asked me the questions I could educate him on what we do and the process right everybody doesn't want the government in their lives until they want the government in their lives and when they do they want it right then and there little thing called process due process that we have to afford everybody no matter who they are no matter what
station in life they have Right. So again, some of the complaints that are being brought up before me, before Carl, before this administration, I can tell you that Carl and I with respect to other uh uh um houses or other lots in
that area, we formed a team with others including fire and police and the dog uh excuse me, animal control officer and we approached those things that way. There are courts, there are things that we have to do by law. we have to afford
uh you know opportunity to reme to to to remedy the situation. Yeah. So at the end of the day there are certain things that we as local officials can do but then there's certain authorities that boards and committees have to do and Mr. Berseron has to understand that we elect
those folks to do a job and so his remedy might not be necessarily with the official that's sitting here right the remedy might be at a greater which would then require counsel and other things to look at. So I've invited the board of health members to go out and get
involved with this. I've invited them to go out and take a look at it. Margaret went out there. If you go back and again look at the minutes this has been brought to people's attention. We have in fact listened to the complaints. I have in fact gone out there and tried to meet with John, other farmers and other
folks in the area to remedy to the point where I've had the folks that have complained come up to me and say, "Thank you. The birds are no longer an issue." Right? And that they haven't noticed the smells. Now, I will I will caveat this before I'm I'm done talking
about this tonight, right? Again, poll hearing. There's a law. There are several laws, but the farmers have rights too. Okay. Under the state sanitary code, any smells, odors, noises, dust, and things like that that are associated with a normal
agricultural uh u operation are exempt from being decided that they're a nuisance. Okay. Under the chapter 111, we have a nuisance of even outside of a right to farm because that right outside of right to farm, if you have an agricultural
use, that's good to know. I didn't know that. B bottom line if you live near a farm and it smells like a farm. Yeah. The state has said and it's laid out and again I would afford anybody who approached me and I would provide that information. You got it Kevin. All right. You got it right. It's below
nuisance but if it's above nuisance like so again Mr. Chairman I'm addressing this to the board right directly. So um at the end of the day I'm not saying there aren't remedies. I'm not saying there aren't room for improvements everywhere across the board. not just with this one location but others that
I've encouraged our town leaders even prior to having a separation of the board of selectment from the board of health to invest in their authority and take action where you can and as necessary. So I will continue to do
that. We're inviting council to come down to one of our board of health meetings to reinvigorate that statement so to speak and maybe educate the board of health members on what their authority is and how they can utilize it. Um, but as we have have we have people here that are clearly upset. I've
also gotten compliments that whatever is happening and it's not just Mr. Excuse me, Melo. I have talked with other farmers in the area to try to help out with what they're doing too because I've noticed that there may be that. So, I will end it on on that that we are
there. We will go out and do our my job, but I can only go so far as an appointed official. Understood. Nice. Yeah, Carl, do you want I mean, let's I I was kind of cut off Mr. Melo there, so I'll let him say and then and then we'll try to
get back to the to the poll. Okay. I I feel for Frank and I would like to address anything that he has. You talk to me, we take care of business. I don't need any board. I I appreciate I value
the board, but in the meantime, I I can get it done. We've talked before, John. Yes. How many years ago? Frank, I said make all you want. At some point, Yeah. I said it to you. But at some point, I have a right to allow
me. Everybody, allow me to make a move or at least let me explain what's going on, the pole use. I've heard every story from a grinder to this and that. It's that building is either to uh a
small little bagging thing like a manual bagging thing. That's why we need electric or hay storage or it's that's only seasonal. You're only going to sell that product uh at two or three months a year. So then the rest of it we can use
to maintain weld uh farm equipment attachments this and that. I want to assure you. I I'm publicly saying this. Everything that I'm doing, I want to try
to improve it. It to me, it's fairly close to Frank's house, which Frank's house was part of the farm at one time, right? Well, in this No, no. I just The point to this, too, when Kevin was here, I lived here way before this farm was
going. No. No. That farm's been going for 200 years. Your lot is a part of it. There. That's what I'm saying. That is correct. And we're going to try to I would like to I'm used I grew up on a dairy farm. We all Let's let Mr. Bell get But you got to give me a chance to talk, Frank. Go ahead. Please.
What I'd like to do, we're enhancing in the back. We were building loading docks, things like that. We're going to move what's by Frank's house. I'm looking to move it out back, further out back. Um, I would like to dress up the front.
I want this town to be very proud of what we're going to build for a farm there. That's my goal. I'm not looking uh to develop the property. If I can't run the farm, well, then we'll develop it. But my goal is not to. I think we've
tried very hard to produce some uh all naturatural healthy beef. Uh we're we're doing it and I think we can uh improve quite a bit to make I consider my friends my neighbor I
want him very comfortable. I think that's a good policy. Right. It's the only way really. Yeah. Um okay. Is that is are are you and if you have any questions about the poll but I did explain the use why we're bringing three
phase. The only reason of moving the pole I mean Frank applied for electric. I applied for electric. We all apply. Yeah. But you have they have to move the pole so that it can go right in. Yeah. And I think it's you know it's all become abundantly clear that the poll is the sticking point is what's brought
this kind of situation to light. I don't think it's about the poll. I think it's about the bigger picture. But, uh, you know, we are where we are now. So, um, I'm going to let Carl go and and speak to any kind of input you have on the situation. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, uh, I think what's important is we have total transparency in anything we do. My
job is to slow it down a little bit, make sure it's transparent. We get all the information we have. So, I have no conclusions about what's going on, but I have some concerns. How many trucks will be generated, how much noise, dust, uh, what kind of materials, how much materials are bringing in. John, Mr.
Melo to his credit he's offered you know whatever I needed to look on the farm he's given me unfettered access to anywhere I want to look so we have that kind of relationship and I appreciate that from Mr. Again, it's still an investigation. We still need more information about exactly what the end product will be.
What are we getting out of this? Again, how many trucks, how much material, how much material is actually from the farm and not from outside. What are we doing here? Again, slow it down. Let's collect all the information. Let's be totally transparent and let's share that with everybody and we will have some conclusion at the end. Thank you, Carl.
Thank you, Mr. May. If I may. So, this came to the board of health. ah gosh late fall early early um winter this past year 2024. So during this poll conversation neighbors were here the abutters and they discussed and they
told us what to me was a quality of life issue right they own a property they want to be able to go outside and have a barbecue throw the ball around things like that I as I stated I was going to reach out to Mr. Melo Mr. Mel and I have spoken various numerous times on the phone as far as getting out there look
take a look at the property asking him about the poll what the gener use are but ultimately letting him know that this is a quality of life as well he has a right to farm you have a right to live in your property right simple as that he for our conversation we I expressed to
him our concerns for the neighbors for the neighborhood he he thought the same thing he and I want him here so that he can ask and answer questions and get that person feeling back versus just going through us or through the board and and getting a secondhand information. I wanted him here so that
we can get direct information directly from him so we know what's going on and he agrees that you should be able to go outside and barbecue enjoy your property and so on and so forth. So we have to find a way to get there as neighbors, right? As a board of health or a board of selectman, we have we have some we
have authority but then it's also you're neighbors at the end of the day. How do we fix this as neighbors first? So he has said he will do as needed and from other complaints he has mitigated those issues. So I'm going to hold you to that Mr. fellow, right? And to the neighbors, work together as a team, right? And
figure out what we can do to make this not go away in a sense, but you have to live there, right? Unless you're selling your property tomorrow, you have to live there. So, it's a quality of life. And I he's assured me that he's going to work. He's do everything he can. But it starts with probably the neighbors letting him know, hey, this is what I see. This is
what I don't see. Cuz I don't see him riding around the property all day, right? Unless you do, good for you. And I'm going to be out there someday once I get out of this chair, right? right? Cuz he extended that that to me as well so we can go look and see for ourselves. Work together as neighbors as as best as possible. He said he's he stated here
publicly that he's going to do as many things as possible. Make the neighborhood better. I'd rather not to interrupt you, but I would rather be a good neighbor. Yes. To Frank and and I mean that and I appreciate then let's let Right here. Yeah. Let's let's
because this talk is great. Okay. But it's administrative speaking like we're doing lots of things and many things and lots of stuff is going to happen and it's all going to be good when it's all said and done. We're going to do a nice thing. What did we just say? The source of the smell is rotten fruit or that
that's that's an actionable thing. You get rid of it. Get rid of the rotten fruit. We have reduc No, we you must have noticed we've reduced a lot. Well, the thing is you kind of get a little paranoid cuz like I had these meetings and things seem to get a little better once we had these meetings. But my point is like that is why I've
got to this blowing point of like the poll brought me here because I'm like when is somebody going to do something because you know how many town people John say stuff from the mail woman delivering the mail to people come over my house just for one time and be like what's the what the heck's this what the
heck's that it's like it's not it's but people act like it's kind of a secret. I'm like, it's not secret. And so all you have to do is take a walk on the farm and see. They say Wall-E standing in rotten watermelons sometimes up to his knees, right? So there it is. Get your back all get your loader and get
that the hell out of there. We're moving that process away from you. But also actionable stuff. Frank and I have fought to improve the neighborhood. I I acquired the house next to him, which
this town went through an awful lot of trouble. All of us did. We went through the most sorted. Yes. But now this now I own it and I'm also acquiring. So two of his neighbors
I've acquired, which was originally part of the original farm. I I I will go over my plans with Frank. I I want everything much better in a much better way. Please easy as that. I will like
I'm not I didn't come down here. I said it to them. I said I'll I'm not backstabbing. I'm I'll talk to you face to face anybody because I've been held to things. That's all I'm asking is like let's do it. No, I'm and I want to do it
for Frank in the first place. He's my closest neighbor. But um not a problem. None of this is a problem because to me this is small money compared to your operation. So why ruin your whole operation for small money? Allow me to show you a couple of things that's
coming. All right. I think this is good. Thank you. Let's let's So then the last thing Yeah. If there is a problem, who do I call or where do we go? You should first first try calling John. First try calling John. You did come to the office. I did.
And I did call John and that following week we did meet he was on we came back. So there's a process going on. Okay. You know so we we'll do that. Yeah. So the ticket we're holding is certificate of occupancy for those buildings to be occupied in the business or non- business or whatever. That's what we haven't given out yet. Yeah. And to get all the information, all the facts and
we do according to what's prescribed by the billing code and law. That's what we'll do. Not whether you like Mr. Melo, he likes you. We're going to follow the law. False rules. Information. We can have a conclusion and that will be made public at that time. I think this starts a great improvement, especially like you
said, John, I'm not going to be frank. You're all set. You're not leaving town and I'm not leaving tomorrow either. So, I'm not but I'm looking to resolve it before it gets crazy. Yeah. Guaranteed. I'll give my blood to make it better. Thank you. Thank you.
Perfect. So, I think we're going to close the public hearing now. I think this is Yep. Yeah. Is it a Can I do another additional item or uh if it's not related to the poll, can't can't do it. Is that would be public input at the end of the meeting? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I I'll
come back to you at the end of the meeting for sure. Um All right. So, with that, uh I have to make a motion to close the public hearing, don't I? Yeah. Unless you're going to take more information. No. So, I think we're good. So, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing. Motion
made. Second. All in favor? I. I. Flipin Lopes. Yes. Slickman Zagar. Yes. Sleman Matthews. Yes. Do I have a agenda? I'm here to vote on I think it's somewhere else. 30. Is it number 30? Yeah. So with this, so um I'll entertain a motion to
approve the request from Eversource NSTAR to add a poll at 89 Chase Road, East Rettown, Mass. With the with the um updated language for allowing the town to use that, which Lann does have that, but I just want to make sure that gets put in there. It was Trevor at the
last meeting there was some stuff about us being able to use the poll for transmission of uh for any government purposes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I think that I might have rather than just being police made it more broad. Is that what happened? Yes. Okay. Yeah. All right. So that so
I'll entertain a motion to approve the request for every store and start to add a poll 89 Chase Road with the East Retail Mass with the updated language um related to the municipal use of the poll. Motion made. I second the motion. All in favor? I I. Sleman Lopes. Yes.
Sleman Zager. Yes. Sleman Matthews. Yes. All right. Okay. Now, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now, we're going to jump. Mr. Chair, this is Yes. It's Rogers Marage from KP Law. Uh I was here and standing by, but I take it you don't
need me for anything else. Oh, okay. That you you skated right through. Congratulations. That's the be the best way we can contribute is uh by you know providing our our silent support. So um if there's anything you need in followup just let me know. Have a good day. Absolutely.
Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Um so back to agenda item 22. So we have a bunch of transfers. So discussion and vote whether approve the following request for appropriation transfers between or within departments
for a Town prop custodial PFT salary to town prop custodial PFT salary in the sum of $1,36.85. Uh B. Highway Department PFT salary w salary weight wow salary wages to highway additional gross overtime in
the sum of $500. C. Conservation Commission Professional and Tech Consulting to Conservation Agent PPT salary wages in the sum of [Music] $20,000. Library tech salary wages to
additional gross overtime in the sum of $3,500 $35316. E. Police officer salary wages to additional gross overtime in the sum of $70,000. Old Colony Vocational Educational Assessment to Bristol Aggie um
agriculture school assessment the sum of 52 cents. That's the smallest transfer I've ever seen. Seen uh G. Election worker payroll to town clerk uh town clerical OT in the sum of $675.
H firefighter um PPT to uh slash salary wages to fire additional gross overtime and sum of $45,000. And that is all of them. Mhm.
Uh any questions or concerns? It's just that time of year, right? We had to move money around. So those were all interepart like interdep department. That's just one line onto the other. Yeah. Okay. All right. We good? 50 cents.
Right. So, I'll entertain a motion to approve the request listed in A through H on the agenda. Uh motion made. Second. All in favor? I. Sleman Lopes. Yes. Sleen Zager. Yes. Sman Matthews. Yes. All right. Agenda item
23. Acknowledge the following. Reserve fund transfers. This is not voting on just acknowledging. Yeah. fire repairs and maintenance uh vehicles in the sum of 25,000. Moderator salary in the sum of 180
bucks. Uh BC is town properties R&M in the sum of $50,000 which Lan told me what R&M stands for. Roads and maintenance. Roads and maintenance. No, it's repairs and maintenance. That makes more sense. This is that is that that's Carl. That's
that's um that's facilities budget. That's right. Yeah, that's what that's what it looked like. And there was just a bunch of like septic problem like unforeseen a lot of big expenses that popped up. HBAC. Yep.
Um and then D, town Treasury Department assistant account in the sum of $5,100. All right. Any questions or concerns with that? No. All right. We'll move on. Uh Jenna M24 discussion of vote
whether to approve the fiscal year 2026 omnibus budget. One thing I did notice on this is that I think the first line item the first part page of the budget. I thought I saw a discrepancy between the
finance committee approval and the poor selectman approval. I don't know if finance committee has approved it yet. So that might be last year's number that's on there. That's finance committee hasn't done the omnibus budget yet. Okay, you better give me some cheaters,
too. Could we make it smaller? So, I was just zooming in on it. I'm zooming in. It looks That was the same. Maybe it wasn't the first page. Same. the well
I know they haven't voted on it yet so um so those might be I'm not sure if we made a change they just haven't seen yet and maybe Matt thought they had already voted but they haven't voted on the budget yet anyway I think page two I
thought was different and that's what it was what is this well the yeah the bottom line number does come out department totals is is off so two so There's got to be a difference somewhere. Like, well, what what I immediately thought was that we have a
summing issue in the Excel that's using to power this because I couldn't see anything that looked different. Okay. No, cler, where is it? Town clerk. So, it's line 161 personnel total. It's just a slight delta. It's like we
have 153 242. They have 154 been um some of the budget um yes when I put in when she had her request what she requested and what I was recommending when I when I wrote on her budget sheet was I was trying to
keep her percentage of increase in pay and a certain percentage to fall in line with everything else. Um, but the fincom has not I think they actually approved the her raise as
requested because that's an article. Y So she it has been approved. So this will just have to get changed. But I know the fin hasn't voted on the omnibus as as a whole. So until they vote those those might change. But you're voting on the
uh the the department requested budgets. Okay. All right. I'm good with that. Any any questions or concerns? No. All right. So, with that, I'll entertain a motion to approve the fiscal year 2026
on the bus budget. Motion made. Second. All in favor? I I selectman Lopes. Yes. Sman Zer. Yes. Sman Matthews. Yes. All right. Uh item 25 discussion of vote whether approve raises and stipens for bylaw
employees is approved and on the bus budget fiscal year 226. We already kind of formality. Yeah. This has to be and it has to be subject to funding right because of the town vot. It doesn't really matter whether you give people raises or not. They can't they can't pay them right. No we
can't pay them. So all right. So without entertain a motion to approve uh approve the raises and stipens for bylaw employees as approved in the omnibus budget for fiscal year 2026. Motion made second. All in favor? Subject to funding. Yeah. Subject to funding. Yeah.
Um sorry. I got a second. Yes. All in favor? I. I. Suckman Lopes. Yes. Zagar. Yes. Like Matthews? Yes. All right. Agenda 926. acknowledge a disclosure of of an appearance of conflict of interest from Joshua Simmons. His uncle also
works for the highway department. Um, but they don't Yeah, doesn't seem like an issue to me. We We live in Freetown. That's going to happen a lot. Everyone works in the city. All right. Well, yep, it's good. Appreciate the conflict of interest disclosure. So, without we we
don't have to vote on that. We're just acknowledging it. All right. So, now I will kick it over to personnel. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All right, present board. Item agenda 28, discussion and vote on time clock technology expiring and how to proceed. All right, so this kind of
started not too long ago. Um, one that's expiring, but we also there's different procedures at different places in town, and this is a an attempt to kind of put it all together, all the same usage, people clocking in and out the same. Right. Um right now as it says on our on
our um paperwork you know we have the COA town hall annex um they're using this option which is the employee clock in like the portal that they have. So moving forward how we how do we want to do this? Right. Well the time clock technology is phasing out. So it's no
longer going to be supported I believe at the end of the year. So we can purchase a new time clock for $1,000 at the town hall. um or we can push them all over to logging in on their computer and just logging in and off on their computer.
But one of the other issues is I know it's a um it's it's it's a it's controversial, right? We have department heads that don't want to punch in and out. I have employees that don't want to punch in and out. So, I thought it would be a good opportunity to discuss that because when I first started here, it
was a big deal to get everybody on time clock punching in and out. I worked very hard to do that. It was not an easy lift um because people didn't want to do it. They don't they don't like change. They didn't want to do it. Um so at this
point where we're where the time clock's going to be phased out, I thought it would be a good opportunity to discuss what the board wants to do moving forward. Um, do you want to keep it in place and and and try to make it more equitable so that everybody's punching in and out on their computer or their
phone or do you want to give it up and not have it anymore? I don't know the answer to that, but I thought I would ask the question since I'm getting so much um push back about it. Thank you. Well, I think the the basic conversation we can have is one, they're
town employees. The town requires ABC and that's what the employees need to do. time clock punching in and out is a very basic thing doesn't it's it's it's part of the job. So I think that's a basic thing that we can put out there saying, "Hey, the town requires this. This is what you need to do, right?
They're employees of the town, right? Whether they like change or not, I understand that. But at the end of the day, the town requires things to get done in an appropriate and transparent manner. And time cards are pretty pretty basic. You either worked or you didn't work. You took time off or
you didn't, right? We have to make sure we account for that. So, how do we do that the most basic way possible, but the most efficient way possible as well? So, that's the conversation at hand. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm okay with having a
time clock. I like, you know, transparency of everyone showing when they're in. I like how hard is it to lock like like So, it's funny. It's ironic because I right before this meeting, I got yelled out for not putting my time in for my client like right before this meeting. I'm guilty of this every other week.
Myself is included. So, I get it. Um, but the like buying this thing, this like device, right? Like where you don't need
to do that, right? You can just go like use an app. We have the device now. You come in, you fob in with the you put your fob in, it locks, you know, it clocks you in. when you leave, you Bob out and it clocks you out on your time, you know, creates a time sheet for you. That's the only purpose it's used for.
It's not connected with our payroll system. It's not used that way if even if it is. Um the time clock itself is going to be phased out. Yes, you can log on to your computer and clock in. And some people do that. Some people do clock in on their computer. You just log
in. It's like an app on your computer. You could probably put it on your phone. Would you put it on your phone? You could because it's an internet. They all go on um when you do your payroll, you go on and you print your time sheets. So, you print out your FOBs on that system already. So, they all have credentials. They all use it for that
right now. Okay. And I think except for the highway. Yeah. Highway I wouldn't go there with that. Highway doesn't do that. See, they don't have computers, so I don't really have access. COA does it. Um the highway department, including the transfer station, does not do it. The
annex does. Excuse me. The annex, the town hall employees do. So, I think that's one of the things is that employees feel like it's not consistently applied because the highway department doesn't need to do it. And of course, police and fire are separate. They don't do it either. Um, so that's
where the where the discrepancy comes in. And I don't necessarily need to have an answer tonight, but I figured I'd bring the subject up because um there's been a lot of internal discussions about it. And I don't want to spend the money on a time clock if it's something that
the board's going to ultimately say nobody has to punch in or um you know or and I don't have a problem with them all going to using their computers to punch in and out. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But like it's it's funny that
they're going to try to charge us $1,000 for for a piece of hardware that they're sunsetting, right? Seems a little ridiculous. Why don't just give it to us, right? Well, I guess it's like a new version of the time. The one we have is that
makes it say purchase here, but I I believe like it's in the treasur's budget. Every year we have to pay that $1,000 for the one that we have now. No, we own it. We don't pay that. We pay a a monthly fee for, you know, for hoppers in general. Oh, that must be it. Okay.
All right. I don't know. Do we need a vote? Do we need to make a call tonight? I mean, it doesn't have to be tonight, but we need to we should definitely make it soon. And then think about police and fire as well. Do we have them punch in or even highway? So, we need to be consistent across the board. That's the one thing we've heard about is it's
inconsistent. This is our attempt to make it black and white, right? Mhm. Um how far we go. So something to think about I guess is do we do the entire all employees and not and not skip out any department or or office. Everybody needs
to do it. So in the short term I guess the question would be do we buy another time clock for the town hall or just try to get them to to log in and out of the computers at work? And that's the decision I need sooner than later I
guess. Yeah. because this technology sunsets on June 30th. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I I just don't want to go crazy on buying all sorts of technology, especially if we can do the computer because here's the problem is is like
logging hours for certain people is different than others, right? the the clerk who shows up and works, you know, the normal town hall hours is a lot different than if we started asking you two to punch in and out and clock out.
No, I know, but I mean like I I I'm saying that it's it's a lot more difficult. So, I just think we need a good mechanism, but I think it's important. I think it Yeah, but it provides us data that we wouldn't otherwise have, right? Right. That's another part of like even if it's not directly related like tied to the
payroll system. I think like when I'm trying to do an analysis and I want to figure out okay Lan's working 60 hours a week if we have to replace her like and a few more hours like that's important data point to know right. I I I mean if you're asking me I mean I think not that
you are but if you are I think it's important. I mean there are times when I need that data. You're right. I need the data of see who's doing what. Um, and I I I people are, you know, we have, I mean, I've said this, we have great staff. We have great employees. I don't
know issues with any employee, but I have in the past. Yeah. We have had issues with employees that Absolutely. Yes. We didn't know what when the last time was anybody had seen them, you know. So, what do you do you think that we should buy the the the the thing? I You're guys are in there. me. I think
it's I think it's the easiest way because I I think, you know, I I think right now and where we're at, it's going to be one more thing I've got to change and change the learning curve and it's $1,000. But I think either way it will work. Um
half of them just log in on their computer. I think a lot of them do it already. Yeah, I think a lot of them are logging in on their computer already. Okay. So, that's important to know, right? the third I and I I I mean I think we're as a board we consensus seems to be that we continue people
logging time at least. Yeah. I think the I mean the van drivers at the COA log in on the computer. Yeah. Yeah. I I think being consistent across the board is absolutely the way to go. So if the majority of our employees are logging in online all right kind of gives us clear
direction on which way we going. Yeah, I think that was kind of the way we were meeting, but I like I said, I thought I would take the opportunity to let you know that there's this that we need to have further conversations about the It just makes it easier because it's the same across all departments. To your point, I I think it's a no-brainer. I
get it. People don't like change. We understand that. But the end of the day, the, you know, you you work as a town employee. The basic necessity is making sure that the town is getting everything from you. The basic thing is we need to know your times, right? in and out.
So, that base estimate. Okay. So, we're just going to have a vote to not purchase a new piece of equipment, but to to train everyone on how to log in and out of everyone people that are currently using it to if they're not
logging in and out on the computer for them to log in and out on the computer. Yes, that's the current conversation. But also maybe bring this up again before this expires is the folks that don't log in now. Do we need that data as well? That includes
I think what I think what Debbiey's saying is that we make those folks or we educate those folks on how to okay do that so that everyone's lo so we don't have to buy this. We would have to buy one for every location too. Like it's only you know it's a time clock basically. So, if you going to do it at the highway department, you'd have to put one at the
highway department and and that might be easier for them than logging into a computer cuz they don't have computers, right? Yeah. Yeah. Or is there an app? There looks like an app. There's an app. I think there's an app. Can you use your phone? I believe you can, but I'd have to look into it. Yeah, I think we can. I
thought it was like a separate option. The way I was reading. Yeah. Yeah. On the on the There's like options and then there's a price associated with it. So there's like different ones cuz I'm not sure if the phone will work because when you for example you're at it's geoloccated
so you can't be home and clock in and clock out. You know what I mean? It we tell the system what IP address you're going to use. Gotcha. So clock in and out. Good. Okay. No. Gives gives protects the town a bit more. The other thing about Carlos just you mentioned different departments. I have to go back
and look at their union contracts too because if it's not in there that we can implement a time clock, it's going to have to be impact bargained for, right? But even let's say take the police union, they there must be a way that you know they they're budgeting their
finances, right? They're already punching in and out somehow. So, we're just capturing that data. That's all we're doing. As far as unions, I they they have phone call in the morning and the chief chief's there, you know. I don't know. I'm just saying that's just something I'll have to look into to make sure that we don't sidestep the union
contract. Well, absolutely. We don't want to go against any union things, but I know they're logging in at some point. Yeah. And that could be a way of capturing their time in and out. We'll know they're there or not. Right. You call for police officer, they don't show up. Who's working this shift? Right.
Well, again, I we're not currently having any issues with any employees. No. But we have in the past. Yeah. Correct. This is not directly towards anybody. This is just basic housekeeping for the town of Freetown. Well, you don't want to wait till you have a problem to try to fix it. Correct. Okay.
So, we're just going to move forward with them logging in and off. Um the current employees that are on the system continue using their computer to log in and out and then we'll recircle and and talk further about this. You could press it to no vote needed right now. No,
I think I necessarily need a vote. I think I'm good with that decision. Yeah. All right. So, no vote needed on number 28. We'll um table that for now and then go on to number 29. Item agenda 29. Discussion and vote on whether to approve the following appointments. A
through D. A. Ashley Emory as temporary clerical help assessors conserv conservation effective 514 2025 through 6:30 2025. B. Lisa Podellski as animal control agent inspector of animals effective 51 2025 through 6:30 2026. C.
John Dearos D. Maderos as highway department laborer effective 520 2025 and 6:30 2025. Or should it say through 6:30 2025. D. Natasha Natricia sorry Natasha. Natasha butchering your name.
Uh C. Fansa as recording clerk for economic development committee, building committee, finance committee, council of aging library, community building committee, bilaw review committee, commission and disability conservation committee effective 52025 through 6:30
2025. That was a mouthful. All right, any questions, comments, concerns? Is that right? Only to 6:30 2025. Yeah, and it will auto renew on the um yeah list when we do the reappoints. Okay. Yep. Um, all right. I
entertain a motion to approve the appointments listed on agenda item 29 A through D. I'll make that motion. I will second it. All in favor? I Iman Lope. Yes. Suckman Vagger. Yes. Lucky Matthews. Yes. Okay. Now we'll
have uh some public input and uh we have a gentleman here. Want to state your name for the record, please? John Tamoski, 31 Central Lab, Persona. Todd, how are you? Good. And yourself? All right. So, uh, what are you here to talk about? Something happened today that the town
I'm sure is aware of that I think has taken it to the next level. Um, since paving central um, central a and the bay shores, the traffic situation has gotten a little out of control. Um, people are
treating it as a main road. Um, I've seen a lot of close calls myself with children. Um, one just happened yesterday where somebody had to avoid very closely somebody on a bicycle. Um, and it's a motorized
bicycle without a helmet. So, you can't really teach these people how to be safe. I've seen that. I know exactly what you're talking about. And so, that that one got me a little concerned. That was yesterday or the day before. And that's not why I'm here right now. Why I'm here right now is I was mowing my lawn
and a car must have been going 40 45 miles an hour within a few feet of me. Called the police to let them know I have the plate. I'm not going to go down that road because I have data because of where I am on Central A. It's not just that car. There's probably a dozen or
more. Um the data is private obviously because I'm not here to, you know, make people look bad or anything like that. I'm here on behalf of the people in my neighborhood to try to keep everybody safe. Um, especially the actually
everybody. Um, so I did some research um because we've already talked to the police about it at length. Um, there's a sergeant that's pretty much, you know, made a a project out of it, making sure that he's doing everything he can. Um, and there's also a patrolman that I met
with today that's doing a lot as well. They both basically patrol that area as best as they can within their budget. um they have an issue where a lot of the things that I see are at a uh a break where their shifts overlap. Um so
there's essentially no way for them to get to the area between the hours of maybe 4:30 and 5:30, which is when you start seeing the the the people coming home from work between 3 and 6. Um so they're missing all of that and that's no fault of theirs. So, I'm collecting
what I can to tell them what's going on during those times. And that event with the bike happened around 4:30, 5:00 when they're not going to be there. Um, so I'm proposing to the town that, you know, I appreciate the fact that the signs were put in for 25 miles an hour.
It was a good effort, but nothing changed. Yeah. And I was also shocked that that was the lowest we could go. Yeah. So, you know, I love the neighborhood, too. Like I 25's kind of fast for that neighborhood. So, I've got a few things that I'm in a perfect world. A lot of things can get done, but I think the
best thing that the town should do is best effort at this point and then see where it goes. I spoke with a police officer. Um, the first thing we could try to do is to enforce a change from the town level where there's a 30 mph zone on the one that comes into the bay
shores. Mhm. Whereas there's a 25 and a 25 on either side of it. I think we should strike that 30, get rid of it, make it 25 the whole way so that they can enforce 25 the whole stretch. That gets you the issue of entering beay shores. So for whoever's patrolling that
area, they're going to see I don't have to worry about if they're doing if it's five over, I don't know, whatever it is. If they're doing 36, it'd be a lot different if it's 25 mph zone versus a 30 mph zone. So semantics, I don't know. that gets you
into beay shores. The issue then becomes, are they going to be going around to, you know, the the the the shoreline area or are they going to be going through central? From my from what I see, just because of position of my house, I can tell you by the sheer number of cars that go by during rush
hour. Um, most people are using central app. Mhm. And so the theory that I have is you've already got the patrols, you've already got the radar truck showing the data. I've got data myself. It's obviously not official data because I'm not a town employee. I have a a case
study that was done in um actually the state has vertical deflection countermeasures listed as you know one of the things that can help these things at at a town level. the town of Mansfield. I would I'm sure they use this because they're used as a case study on the document where they had the
exact same problem and they went through phases of different types of vertical deflection countermeasures which I talked to the highway department about last year and we talking about speed bumps. Yeah. Yeah. They call Yeah. At state level they call them that. So basically the highway department's
theory on that was it would be difficult because of the plows and I understand that and that's why they have the version that comes out and goes back during the winter and that's what Mansfield did. So what I'm proposing the town does just because no matter what you spend with the police people see the police they're going to slow down. the
police aren't there. The vertical uh deflection devices, speed bumps, they're going to act and they're going to do so I'll read I just like to present this after I've you know read through it a little bit as you guys can have this copy. Um so the town of Mansfield,
there's a paragraph that explains all this. It's pretty short. Speed bumps were initially installed on the most direct route to the train station, which is the where they were having the issue. drivers quickly figured out what streets didn't have speed bumps, albeit less direct, and started using those streets. So, you could see if we started to do
this maybe on Central A, they may just go up on that one that's more close to the shore. Y and they'll have the issue now. So, to avoid that, uh the town quickly responded by installing speed bumps on the less direct routes as well. All streets accessing the parking on the outbound side of the train station all
have speed bumps. The speed bumps eliminated all resident complaints. I don't think it gets more clear than that. Yeah. So, I I know budgeting is a big thing and money just doesn't grow on trees, but these are not expensive. Yeah. I
looked at Uline as a Everybody knows Uline if they've worked in commercial at all. $250 each one of these. Really? Yeah. And then an installation. I mean, so that's because Debbie lives like that's the house down from you. One house down from you. Yeah. So I can say
I I would love to help just because of my background as like an engineer background. I can tell you where I think strategically they should be placed to save the the town the most amount of money and then phase them as okay it worked with two or it's not working with
two now we have to put four. So you don't spend as much money. It saves the the town money, but in my opinion, you can't put money in front of what it's going to cost to to say, "Why didn't we do this if something happens that's fatal?" No, I hear you.
We're very close to that fatal situation in I mean, I I walk my son around the neighborhood every day and I've had many too many close calls. So, he was two feet away today. So, there you go. So, I I I totally understand. Um, I also live in the neighborhood. My, it's my
understanding that this is a town level decision. It's not up to the state and that there could be bylaws that I looked at the bylaws today. I didn't see anything about, you know, everything I saw had to do with highway department and things like that. I already spoke with the highway department of what
their theory was on the the bumps and their only concern, at least in that conversation, was a logical one, which is what do we do when the plowing season starts? Yeah. Take them out. So, one of the other things is we have those um boards, right, that they can put out on
the telephone and talk to them about that as well. So, those those can be maneuvered, right? So, all it takes is brackets and the chief got so many brackets and put them in different areas that they had concerns or whatever. I
wonder if we can talk to the chief about getting some additional brackets because I think we've we've all passed them, right? And we all realize like all of a sudden you're driving and you say, "Oh gez, I got to slow down." Right? So I think that it might give people a little
bit of education to it and that might be a good first step. So I talk to them about that and that's one of the things that's more of that's so like if you look at this in a a phased approach, that's more of the discovery phase. they've done the discovery phase. They have the data. I have the data of being
in the position I am on the drag strip. It's, you know, that it's a problem. So, that's more, in my opinion, that's more of a collection thing where I think it's it's appropriate to gather that long-term data and and definitely get the budget to add those devices because
from what I was told, those devices actually collect data and report that to the town for statistical purposes. And I think that's extremely valuable and should be done regardless of the speed bumps. I think the speed bumps are a more direct approach that doesn't cost the the town a lot of money. Um the
installation, I don't know, but I mean it seems pretty simple of a concept where it's just, you know, you get it into the concrete in a way that it can be removed and then put back and they may shift a little and you have to find out which one works best. That's why you probably just buy one or two to start
and then see how they work. and yeah, and then go from there. But I mean, at this cost, I mean, I think it's it's an obvious choice when it comes to what's more valuable, a child's life or a or a bump. Yeah. I mean, that's one other
thought had, right? Is if like that's so right across the street from your house, the middle of the street that comes down, there was a T-bone accident right there because of it. Oh, and by the way, I I know it's silly, but I found out why my lawn was keeping on getting the sprinklers destroyed. It's because people are
coming so fast that people are speeding out of that Hollywood a driving onto my lawn to avoid that car that's about to hit t-bone them. Well, that kind of reinforces what I was going to say. Like, what if that was a stop sign both ways there? Oh god, that would help.
Where? Right. So like like even though it's it's it's it might seem like a it doesn't need to be a stop. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but like I I just what I think it would do is it force people to slow down and then they can't even get up to speed again until they take a right by your house. So my theory
was put a speed bump on either side of that crest and it it makes it a more logical thing because it stop right there. I don't know if it would I mean that's just me thinking out loud. Yeah. No, I and I really haven't considered that until now, but cuz I like I know what you're saying cuz I've seen it too where people one on either side would get on central and then like by your
house and then there's cars coming cuz and and then going both ways. The blind spot is a blind like hill there. Mhm. So I think the my theory was I think it's about 20 ft towards your house the first set could be put and you could put them in the middle so that people can go by
with their baby carriages and not even hit the bump because it's on the side. Yeah. And then on the other side, maybe at the middle of where Hollywood comes out, either at the middle of it or just past Hollywood, put another one. So that gets people that are coming to Hollywood
to slow down before they're near Hollywood. And then again, when they get over Hollywood and whether you're coming or going, you're going to have to hit a speed bump and slow down to at least something. And you start there and you find other spots. And just so you know, we have there's a bit more data. There's
a gentleman that's or a lady that's putting their truck in the road to slow people down so they don't go fast by their house. So, the law is being taken into people's hands at this point because nothing's being done. There's not even any you can't even get
going. It's it's the shortest road. Be surprised on like I will say there's a lot of traffic on Central. Yeah, it's actually picked up in the past few years because literally in the name, right? It's the central most street. So people use it and myself included, right? If I
was to go down there, I feel like I would use Central. I don't have to. I'm right at the beginning of the island, so I don't have to go down there to get anywhere, but I feel like that's anytime I've had to go down there, I go central. I do know there's a lot when I see a
lot. I moved in. So I rent at 31 and I moved in in 2018, I think. It wasn't that bad. Um, obviously the pavement wasn't brand new. Um, I think it was around 2021 or 2022
is when I started noticing that things started picking up for some reason. I don't know what it was. It was before the pavement came in. Yeah. I wonder if it's like cuz Crystal Springs has a has a uh like what used to be Tiny Tots. Yeah. I don't think they're doing anything down there too much. I see cars
out there a lot. So, I walk I walk the dog by there every day. They have I don't know what they're doing there. training I think is what they do for like there's cars down there and and I just my experience is that there's been people I maybe someone on their work break whatever they drive around the
island like when and they and they that's what I see I know I see cars go like sometimes it's the same car going back and forth in front of my house I when I'm out in the air but I don't All right so so let's talk about next steps here right so I I I like this I we do have to get highway department involved
say yeah so we can get like and I know this is going to be frustrating. This is how government works. It's slow. So, just work with me here. I worked with highway department one of my jobs. So, so I I think that like I I understand Chuck's concerns, right, of when there's plows, but if there's a easy way for us
to to get around, you know, to to remove those and but we have to think about like, you know, the big picture here, like, okay, so say we put a couple on the island and then other folks want those too. Like we have to we have to understand the the like you know we can't just be favoritism especially on
this board to the to the board and the town manure both live within uh I get it on pretty much the same street you know I get it uh so but yeah I think that we bring the highway department in if you want to support that data you have to make sure that that deb have that so we can include that in the packet so that
so that's I was going to bring that up so the other thing is kind of two points what you were saying about you know having people on the board that live there I was also going to present if the town didn't necessarily want to pay for it. Give the permission so maybe I could present this to the association. Yeah.
And we could I hate to speak for the association here, but heck, I would pay for the first couple out of my pocket. Yeah. Because it's it's in my front yard. So I'm trying to keep myself here safe. So I hear you. So I think if it's a conflict of interest thing, I think maybe the association should take care
of the first ones or I can take care of the first ones and then we can see what data we get from the maybe either crest either side of that crest of that hill. See what it does. Yeah. Get the raw data and then present it to the town and then you don't have that conflict of interest. Yep. And then get the devices
on the on the poll. I know I spoke to the police. They said that was a budgeting thing. So wait for that to happen. But this in the interim um I think it's it's a path forward. Yeah. Yeah. Those radars are very very expensive. Yeah. Yeah. See, I wasn't looking to put one there permanently. I
was looking because those they're they're movable, right? The ones that are 5,000, right? What's that? The $5,000 ones. Yeah. They're at least that. But it's just a bracket. So they can take that unit and bring it because they have to take them off the poles to even charge them. Right. So you go by a
pole sometimes and they're it's there and then all of a sudden it's not there. So that's why I'm saying they could literally take that device and hang it from a pole and the data collection is great but I think also bringing awareness to people so that when you
drive by not saying you in particular but you drive by and you're like oh gez it's 25 m you know there's these bright signs everywhere saying 25 miles an hour now it allows people to actually realize how fast they're going. Um, yeah. And
and if the Bay Shores City Association was willing to do it, I'll present a budget to them. Yeah. And then I think that I think the important caveat to that beh puts puts it in and then removes them before snowstorms
for so so the highway department has nothing they have to worry about. What's that August now? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean something if if we can work out something like that. I I mean as a association member I'd be willing to kick in some money. I think you've got enough people in this room that might be
part of the association that would pay it. Yeah. So I think we should look into the legality of that, right? Like can the association do that? I think there's Yeah. There's like because it's town it's a town public road. Well, that's why I'm here to ask permission. So when you're the road commissioner, so it would definitely need approvals and of
course obviously you do you want Chuck to be involved. I want Chuck. I was going to say we I don't want to make any decisions. He might not be happy about putting. Yeah. And then and then to look at other options, right? Cuz one of the other things that you we've all driven over them is the like the raised walkway
type ones because I worry about the abruptness of you might not be bothered by it, but someone gets one in front of their house and the trucks are driving over and it's banging. So that so that's another thing. These these kind of account for that. There's different designs. Um
they're rubber um and the town of what was it? I said Mansfield. They tried different models and the ones that they came up with that work for the things exactly what you're talking about was uh I don't know if it was a 2 in high versus 4 in high or something 2.2 in
like they came up with you can read the study. It's a sweet spot. And there was even a model that they said it shifted too much. So they've done all the work for us. Okay. Awesome. And there's more than this case study. There's all across Massachusetts. There's like 10 of them listed. It's not a unique problem, right? Oh, this is a problem in everywhere in the state. And I think
it's like I think now just the Bayore specifically with it it's its proximity to the train station. Yeah. Like there's going to be more people moving in there. I you know I would not be surprised. We we see some accessory dwelling units being built right now on the bay shores.
It's a density issue, right? And the roads are all narrow. Yep. I just really worry about pedestrians because I I saw it walking yesterday or the day before literally and I I actually heard it. I I'm pretty sure it was um cuz I looked out that person was on that bike and then seconds later I
went into the kitchen and I heard like a ruckus like like screeching or whatever and it was right next it was coming from that direction. So they very likely screeched to get around them. Yeah. Cuz they were going too fast. Yeah. And it I don't want this to be a meeting where we talk about somebody that's in the
hospital or works, you know. It could be me because I every day I walk that loop and I don't and I don't selfishly I don't want it to be me either, you know. Yeah. My kids walk out there as well, you know. So, and I mean we're not like this unique thing. There's other places in Freetown that I'm sure I'm I'm sure
are just like this. So maybe this can set that precedent that it's not as expensive as you think it is to make this Yep. happen like let's help each other. All right. So, we we'll do that. We'll get that on agenda and we'll we'll keep this moving forward, right? That's that that's all I can promise you right now. Best we can
do. Okay. I appreciate that. All right, John. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We're going to sign now and then we'll close. That's a big stack. I know my hands already sore before I move. All right. Where am I? Top
one. All three of us. This one. This easy when my name's on it. I know what it's on. I was looking at this going. What am I doing? I had trouble reading this one because like the background is so
Yeah. It's weird. It's almost like fuzzy me. Yeah. All right, I'm creating a backlog now. [Applause] Yeah, try to become the bottleneck. You know, I'm trying to speed up.
My word. Henry Ford can do it. So can we. Assembly line. door. I'm clearly not listening to anything you're saying. I'm talking this morning. I'm sorry.
I don't want to take it personally. Just me. Answer request. It's been a long day. This one's just this one. Nope. Everyone. Everybody. Everybody. request. is there a way for us to have this
already exists, but for like all the cool events that we're doing like the children's musical event, all that stuff. Can I subscribe to that calendar for like the events so that I it'll just pop up in my Google calendar? I have to ask Kyrie how to do that. We
do have the event, you know, the the quarterly event newsletter, but I can ask her if there's a It would be cool, I guess, right? To be part of like a group that they could just push push it out. Yeah. Like to so you could subscribe to the account. It
is a way to do it. Yeah, for sure. I I don't know if we're we're for utilizing that because I think that would be I'm sure she can figure it out. Yeah, just cuz like for me it's like I like to look at my calendar and then Yeah. die without having the calendar and
everything on it. Yeah. I I have seven calendars right now which is crazy. Normally that Yeah, we just got that hurt calendar for the house. It links to all the devices and everything else and there's a big display at home. See, I need that. It It works. It works when you use it.
No, I might need to look. What's it called? Hurtth. Earth. There's also uh there's different kinds, but hearth is pretty interactive. You can any device and it'll just all pop up is you have a screen at home and it's literally just a screen for the calendar. You go by, it recognizes you, pulls up whatever your
agenda is, meal planning, whatever you need. That's wild. I haven't heard of that. It hurt. It's also a skyline, I believe, is another hook up all your different accounts to it. Correct. And you could do it any calendar. So I we both have Apple and then Gmail, Hotmail, uh Town stuff, you name it. It'll just
all link together. Wow. I'm buying one of those like today. That's Yeah, that's I want it to cook dinner for me. Yeah, that's what I want. Well, I just saw a robot that does your laundry, so robot that does laundry. Pulls laundry. Oh,
I've seen that. I want the robot to cook dinner. It's called Uber Eats. What was that? Uh what was the robot from the Jetsons? What was the name for the What was the robot's name in the Jetsons? I don't know. Yeah, at some point she'll
be around. Close. We're close. Windows tied tonight. It's just the notary for the whole time. Thank you. All right. So, with that, I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion made second. All in favor? I I
Yes. Yes. Yes. [Music]