We're all here. >> We have a quorum. >> Yep. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm at 5:28. We will start. And welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming.
I had 92 in the truck when I came in. So, so we're going to um Okay. Anybody did you get all get the minutes in the email? >> Yes. >> Yes, sir.
>> Can I any I need changes? >> Okay. I need a a second or who's first? >> Said something. >> Okay. >> Okay. Uh I will get started right away.
>> Wonderful. Perfect. I will try to keep it short and sweet. Um project number one um on the first page environmental obstruct uh assessment and obstruction analysis. Uh the update uh well really no update since last meeting. We are still waiting for the airport layout
plan to be reviewed through FAA's online system. Um so once that happens, we can finalize and close the project out. Um but it's effectively complete. The bulk of the discussion uh this evening will be on item number two, the
phase one navigation easement acquisitions for runway 18. I know um I provided a pretty lengthy presentation last time about um the runway 36 um issues with the forestry division parcels and the challenges with that and the decision was made at that time that
we'd move forward with a primary approach on runway 18 and acquiring those easements. So since the last meeting um Gail I revised the scope of work um and coordinated with the FAA mass uh DOT aeronautics division to
present um an amended scope of work which you see before you today. It's um it's quite a reduction um you know just because we're only doing the the run one runway end. Um and I apologize for not getting this to everyone with more
notice. We um were waiting for comments and actually just this morning got the green light from uh Mass DOT to move forward that this was acceptable to present to the commission and request approval on. So um I'll go over um the
draft scope of work if that's okay with everybody. I'll try to keep it short and sweet. I know we've gone over um you know other iterations of um easement scopes of work when it was going to be both runland. So, it's very very similar in nature. Um, but I don't want to go
too quickly and have anyone feel like I've missed something. So, just stop me if I'm going too fast. Um, so project description, like we've discussed before, there are six parcels containing obstructions on runway 36. Um, so this
contract is proposing easements over six parcels. Um, there's a discrepancy on the town of Templeton's assessor's database and it's unclear. It appears that one of those parcels is actually
owned by the city of gardener, but we really need to conduct a title search to make sure that that's true. So, what you'll see in this contract is all of the references are to six navigation, which is an airspace air navigation easement. Um, but we have a footnote.
It's actually on page two um that just states due to those discrepancies um we're accounting for six easements as part of the contract. But effectively if um it is discovered through the title search that one of the parcels or more
one or more of the parcels is is um own city owned or you know owned by some other entity. Any type of um situation where an easement wouldn't be necessary. um we would obviously not charge for any of those associated services. So any of the negotiations or anything we just
would not charge you for. So I wanted to put that up front um in the contract just to make sure that everyone um is comfortable uh with that and knows what the intention is. Um so I'll just move on to page two. You can kind of see that
footnote. So um article B1 is acquisitions and negotiations. So these are all the coordination efforts with private property owners um and with the city of Gardner and town of Templeton to um execute easements and memoranda of
agreement to clear trees from uh town and city-owned areas. There are some trees on uh Templeton right of way that we'll have to get a memorandum of agreement and get you know coordinate and do all those things. Um and then the same thing with the city of gardener
parcel. So, you know, again, if it ends up being um city- owned, we'll move forward with negotiating or, you know, coordinating the city to get those trees taken, you know, get permission for the trees taken down. And if it's an easement, then we'll go in the easement direction. So, whichever one of those
things will kind of be an eitheror situation. Um so, meeting with each property owner is um item A. um coordinating with the property owner through the duration of the project to you know answer their questions, get their signatures on things. Um
meeting with the sponsor, all of you um to discuss fair market value and get your approval on those fair market value assessments. um meeting with city finance which we've already done to seek approval and allocation of local funding um which is
going to be uh a lower local share for this project now which is good news. Um that also includes uh Gail will prepare written offers to each um property owner. Um we will revise what's called
the airport's exhibit A property map. So that is the map that shows all the different parcels around the airport and what is um what is airport owned, where there's an easement and things like that and submit that to FAA. Um coordinating with city uh Gardner and Templeton to
discuss the airspace requirements and the need to remove those trees. Um and then items H and I are related to drafting the memorandum of agreement for Templeton. Um and J and K are related to
uh drafting and finalized the memorandum of agreement uh for the city of gardener for the gardener parcel. Any questions? You have okay if I move on? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um appraisal services. So FAA doesn't just or you know the airport isn't just taking the easements. Um they
require a fair market value assessment uh through the form of uh an appraisal in accordance with airport advisory circulars. Um so this is going to be primarily the the appraiser will conduct this work but um we will coordinate with
the the work of the appraiser. We will review those appraisal reports um and just coordinate with all of you um during that time. So you'll see um providing easement plans and written description to the appraiser. The appraiser is going to do six uh separate
parcels of appraisal reports um providing a copy for Gail to review. Um we'll coordinate the work of the appraiser and then we'll the appraiser will make any um corrections to those reports.
I'll move on to the review appraisal. It's it's very very similar. It's it's a review of those appraisal reports to determine if the fair market if they agree with the fair market value and then coordinating to um make sure that any revisions that are made um are made.
And Gail's work is is very similar coordinating getting information to the review appraiser, coordinating the work, reviewing the review appraisals. Um and so after we have those appraisals done is the time that we would come back to the commission as an article B and present that information to you.
um survey services uh on page four. So this is um to perform the survey work to delineate the boundaries of the parcels and the easements. Um we'll provide a summary and descriptions and everything to the surveyor. Um the
surveyor will conduct a boundary review of the parcels and there's also um an easement that is there's a a partial easement in the area um off of runway 18. So they're going to delineate the boundaries of that and give us a sense
of where that's located and then we can determine with the FAA what rights the airport actually has. Um, and then let's see, they'll draft up um the
the legal descriptions. They'll prepare um a plan of the approach surface. They'll provide um a myar stamped plan, survey plan that can be recorded at the registry of deeds. Um and we'll of course throughout that time review all
of that documentation and that will be Gail's role as part of that. questions, comments. Am I going too fast? Um, legal services. Um, these will include um, title abstracts. So, the
what I'm talking about is there's that discrepancy in the assessor's database. Um, and we really need these title abstracts to determine ownership of each of these parcels. So, that will be one of the first things that we do as part of this project. We'll get those title abstracts and then we can figure out okay what who where are we getting
thesements where are we coordinating with the city etc. Um Gail will coordinate with the legal subconsultant through the the pro we're actually actually we should um we're going to actually coordinate with the city solicitor. Um Gail will provide um draft
application easements. Um the attorney will provide subordination consents if necessary. Sometimes they are necessary, sometimes not. Um, coordinating with each property owner regarding, you know, these um the subordination consent.
Sometimes you actually have to reach out to the mortgage lender and get these things executed by previous lenders. Um, and so that's included there. Often times you run into those things. Um, the attorney will review all of the easement
language. Um Gail will prepare written offers. The attorney will review the offers. Um and then the attorney will also assist us um with negotiations with the property owner and the attorney. Um review and revise documentation as
needed. They'll provide a final certificate of title for each property prior to closing. Um Gail will draft purchase and sale agreements. attorney will review those and then the attorney will also record the obligation easement um at the registry of deeds.
Then moving on to article D project administration. So this is all the typical stuff that we see as part of these scopes of work. So you have preparing the preliminary scope of work attending the scoping meeting. These things we've already done finalizing the scope of work which will happen after this evening's meeting I hope. Um,
article D, um, meeting with mayor, finance director, city solicitor, airport manager, and the chairman to discuss the project and answer questions um, the city may have about the easement acquisitions, uh, funding, etc. So, we have, um, we'll invite representatives
from the town of Templeton. Um, and I guess we don't really need hovers, and I apologize that's still a carryover from the last thing. So, I will take that out. um just so that you know the gardener is seeking the easements and Templeton is you know property owners
will be um hopefully selling the easements. Um this also includes soliciting proposals for the appraiser, the review appraiser, the survey um and actually court if there was not a legal. So, I'll take out
that people just because um that will be um we don't need that because we're doing the city solicitor. Um we'll develop a zeroed out spreadsheet which which is um Gail's fee spreadsheet. So, we prepare a blank one.
We provide that to Jim to give to an independent fee estimator. Gail prepares a fee. The independent fee estimator prepares a fee. And then we compare um well you all compare those two fees. Jim will compare those two fees to see if
they're within 10% of each other. And if they're within 10% then that's considered um you know that's considered um acceptable to to FAA um and mass DOT. And if not, then we'll conduct negotiations um and we'll sit down with Jim and the um if independent fee
estimator um and discuss where um you know where any discrepancies are to you know make sure that that's um being negotiated. Um see so we have preparing the draft agreement that's just preparing the contract between us uh Gail Associates
and the airport. uh preparing the final agreement the you know final contract um preparing FAA grant application and mass DOT grant applications um providing general coordination uh not otherwise anticipated in the scope of
work between the sponsor and other involved parties including FAA and mass aeronautics um oftent times there are there information requests additional meetings questions follow-ups things like that that we have to do that are not captured within the scope. So, we'll
add a few hours in there to make sure that um that we're able to, you know, capture th those additional requests that pop up throughout the project, especially with the easement project where there's a lot of moving pieces and, you know, private property owners and cities and towns and, you know, everybody else. Um, let's see what else
we have here. Um, updating the airport commission uh on monthly project status. So, that'll be we're assuming about eight monthly updates. you know, we're I'll come down and, you know, give these updates as I do. Um, then preparing the
final FAA request for reimbursement to get the airport reimbured. Um, as well as the final mass DOT payment voucher form. Um, this also includes disadvantaged business enterprise um,
plan reporting and plan preparation. So there I can discuss a little bit more in detail if you would like, but there have been changes to the federal disadvantaged business enterprise program. We anticipate that by this fall there will be um more solid guidance as
to how to update every airport's um disadvantaged business enterprise plan. That is another one of those compliance things that any airport taking federal funding has to have a disadvantaged business enterprise plan that has to be updated typically every 3 years. So, we're including that and they're
allowing FAA mass are allowing us to include that in the project so that you get the 95 um you know percent or um 90 or 95% um total you know value of of that instead of you know having to pay out of pocket for something like that or
figuring out how to do it on your end. and navigate those regulations. Um, also includes processing invoices of subconultants and then retaining uh records and file system for six years after the submission of the payment request. Um,
any questions? Can I go back on anything? Is there any concerns? Okay. Um, a couple articles on page seven that we're not using. Um, article H, this just goes over the project schedule. So, um
I guess we're kind of pushing everything back a little bit here, but we're hoping to have um this will pro everything will probably be pushed back by about a month on this because we really won't have a signed contract until we finalize the fee, which should happen at the next um
commission meeting. So, I'll just bump all these things by a month, but you can kind of see how it goes. um property owner outreach. And then you have your survey, appraisal, review, appraisal, draft your written offer, final written offer, negotiations, execute purchase
and sale agreements. Um and then we will apply for the grant application once we know that we have those purchase and sale agreements in place. And then we'll conduct the closings after FAA um issues the grant. Um and then you know that way the the city will be able to be
reimbursed right away for um for those easements or or as quickly as possible. Um and then the project to close out. You can see we have deliverables that are um associated with each of the articles. So just showing what uh the airport will receive from Gail
Associates. So as article A you'll get the zeroed out spreadsheet. That's for the independent fee estimate. uh the final scope of work uh FAA um grant application with a draft exhibit A article B you'll get a revised exhibit A
property map um paper and electronic copy of the final exhibit A property map that we talked about um article B appraisal one copy of each appraisal report Article B uh review appraisal copy of each review appraisal certificate um article
oops yeah article uh B4 property boundary map um final legal descriptions recordable myar easement plan and electronic copy of the stamp survey plan and then legal services you'll get title reports for each
easement parcel um and then uh copies of the core navigation easements and then subordination consent from mortgage lenders questions comments concerns anything that I am missing.
>> I don't think we could make it any more complicated in any way. It's just it's just so much to get through and you have to do it one step at >> Yes. That's right. That's right. So it
it is it is a a lengthy can be a lengthy process just because you have to have all of these. You know, ultimately the goal of the the goal of the project is to make sure that the property owner is getting a fair market value for the purchase of the easement. And so
>> we're stepping away from the approach to runway 36. It's only 18. Yeah, that's correct. >> That's the only one that's got enough proton on it right now, too. >> Right. And so I just, and we don't have to go over this because I think we've seen it multiple times, but I just included a copy of the um of the plans.
It just kind of shows where uh where the parcels are located, where the trees are located. Um just just for reference, so you know what we're doing here. >> Um >> and there's five, not six parcels that you're concerned about now because uh one of them apparently is
grown by garden. I mean, yeah, >> there there we anticipate there could be up to six if one of there there's just so many discrepancies on the assessor's database that um it was really it's
difficult for me to definitively say like yes, that parcel is is owned by a city. Um so we want to make sure that's that's really all and we wouldn't charge for the services. If we get through the title abstract and it's like, "Yep, this is owned by the city." Great. Now, which
one is question mark owned by the city? >> Well, it's unfortunately there are discrepancies in the ent on all of the parcels under that 18 end. It's basically if you go on to the assessor's database um online and you look up each
parcel when you look at the property card the property card for say parcel 51272 that's associated when you click on that specific parcel is actually the property card for a different parcel and then
when you go to that other parcel in that property card it's a different property card for a different parcel. So, we just need a professional to go through um and really determine which of I believe one of these is city owned, but which one it
is, I I can't be completely sure. I think it's 5-12-72. If the assessor's database is in any way correct, but I I just don't know, unfortunately. Yes, >> I think that piece has been
is probably one of the newer ones that have been assessed. That's the one who sent Isabelle letter warning wood. >> Yeah. >> So, I I just um I mean that'll be the the very first thing we do is run those title abstracts and get that for you to
get those answers of, you know, what what we'll be doing. >> Um so, moving on, page three of the update. Um just the two bullets at the bottom in blue. The commission agreed with phase approach as described above at the June
3rd, 2026 meeting. Get move forward. We're preparing the revised scope which you have today. Um the project will require that independent fee estimate which should be solicited as soon as possible to finalize the fee in time for the August commission meeting. um and the action
requested of the commission. And there's language here um that anyone could use for a motion if you if you so choose. Uh vote to approve the scope of services for the runway 18 easement acquisition project and authorize the chair andor airport manager to solicit an
independent fee estimate. And just as a reminder, fees have been reviewed um or estimated fees have been reviewed with um with the mayor. Um the money is um is set aside. It's allocated
including the funds for the independent fee estimate. And I do have um I can make a recommendation of of someone who is prepared um to to do it and available to do it as well if you would like or you can use whomever you wish.
Okay, I think we just got to keep moving forward and so we're going to need a vote on the is it? >> It's three of four and it's in the red. Um,
>> yep. vote on to approve the scope of services for only 1A easement acquisition project authorized chair andor manager to solicit an independent fee estimate. And so this fee would come from your interactions with some local
>> She's going to give me a >> She's going to make a blank invoice or chart >> fee thing estimate with no dollars on it and give it to this independent few. >> And who's who's the other fee going to
be coming from? So there's so I can make a recommendation there there's um there's a firm um it does have to be a firm that is familiar and does this type of work. So there's um a firm called Tel Vo a woman named Susan Winslow um who
has done these um >> the last one. >> She so she she works with with a lot of a lot of airports. She's um you know >> so that feel will be coming from Gail. Is that right? >> So so what will happen is is But it's kind of the
>> Susan will prepare a fee on her end and give it to Jim. Gail Associates will not see that. Gail Associates will prepare a fee and give it to Jim. Susan will not see that. Then Jim will compare the two. If they're within 10% of one another, they're considered acceptable and you
can move forward with the contract. And if they are not, then that's when a negotiation would take place. So the fee that Jim comes up with is the fee that is uh going to be uh >> well I just >> the airport manager is soliciting independent
>> well it's it's it's >> what the estimator the independent estimator and Gale and we just take a look at them and we can tell whether we'll do the math and make sure they're within 10%. And it's if there is any
discrepancies that way then we get both parties together and negotiating till they get to an agreement. The agreement is then >> so are you obligated to go to go get this independent fee from somebody >> because it gives us an advantage on how
much money we can collect >> to reimburse us for all of it. >> And you have some ideas as to where you're going to go to get this. >> She recommends this woman. I worked with her. I forget what the project was. It was on the runway. I think >> it probably w it probably if it was if
it was with me, it was probably for the environmental assessment. >> Environmental assessment that >> and again this is just someone that I know who who has done these things for multiple airports. She does this type of work. she's experienced. Um, you know, but but again, if there's another person
or firm, it would just, you know, you're welcome to use whoever you like. Just trying to keep things, you know, m make it as easy as possible knowing that, you know, she she is available. She does do them and, you know, she's done them for for many u many airports around u
Massachusetts as well. So, she's used to the type of work and um and usually, you know, we usually are pretty, you know, pretty close to what she um what she estimates. She's pretty she's pretty uh good
>> the and I would probably have at a meeting or executive session or something like that to with you guys to look at. But usually if it's within the 10% the FAA is going to go with their figures
>> and if you want if you wanted to >> it was it was painless process to do it but it would any discrepancies were easily figured out. >> Yeah. And and if you wanted to Jim I mean to not have to, you know, have a quorum and have a meeting. You could
maybe have another representative from the commission on the call if you if you would like to if you would like to do that. if that makes everybody more comfortable with the process. I mean, I'm happy to, you know, just in the, you know, >> Yeah. Okay.
>> So, we've got some options if you want to, but I have to know what they are so that we can >> set it up. Okay. And think about it. I mean, we got few weeks. I have a question I've got to ask
about next meeting, but that's okay, too. >> So, we need a long time >> just yeah and so and so accepting the scope of services and the independent fee estimate you're not committing any funds at this point in time it's just
allowing to continue with the process the only funds you would be committing is to pay that independent fee estimator um and typically their fee is around $4,000 can be up to 5,000 if it's a more complicated project but she would
provide um you know and that's That's all been um also vetted like I said through the mayor um in in discussions with him and he understands that the independent fee estimate is part of it that has to be paid. >> So if we get a independent fee estimate
it's going to cost 4,000 bucks and what is this estimate going to be? An estimate of >> estimating what this project >> how much the project cost >> the easement project is going to cost total >> Gail's contract. So not the easy deals contract.
>> Do we know what uh ballpark this uh this work this effort this contracting cost? >> So yep. So, if you go on page 204, I did provide a little bit of a breakdown and I know it's um this includes so just so you know the 405,000 is not um Gail's
contract that is Gail's contract and the cost of the easements and the cost of the independent fee estimate together. And I will say that I have inflated this number quite a bit just so there are not any surprises. I would expect the number
to be lower, but I didn't want there to be surprises. That's all. Um, >> and AIG stands for airport uh >> airport improvement grant. Yeah. Right. >> So, so the bipartisan infrastructure
law, the airport still has $2554,410 at um of that bipartisan infrastructure um airport improvement grant money. and that money is at 95%. So just trying to make sure that the airport utilizes >> and when all is said and done, who
receives that $255,000? >> Well, that so there's two two grants. So Gail Associates will receive our fee. Um and then >> out of the 255, >> so so there's so here the 255 the total
is on the end. So $45,000 is the estimate for the total project. We're splitting the because there's not enough money left in the airport improvement grant funding. We're going to be splitting the grant into two grants.
>> Yeah. >> So, we'll do 255410 will be, you know, um will be uh applied to the first portion and then we'll also do an airport improvement program grant for the
whatever the remaining balance is. And after we've spent $255,410, what have we received as an airplane? >> So again, I just bring you back to the total is the 405 here. The total for everything and you receive airspace
navigation easements that will allow you to clear trees on private properties um with FAA funding. Without the easement, FAA does not pay for the tree clearing. So if this all goes forward, does the 255 pay for the tree clearing?
>> So again, the two the 255, this is not tree clearing. This is just easements. The total project cost is 405, not 255. Total project cost 405. That is for Gail to pay an appraiser, a review
appraiser, a surveyor, um a title person and for us to coordinate with all these people and pro you know FA Mut property owners and the cost of the actual you have to pay a property owner for the easement itself.
>> But no uh no saw work, no hammer work, no no actually work, no actual work is done. That's just all >> it's you will receive an navigation easement, an airspace easement to clear trees and that will give you perpetual rights to clear the trees. It will also
give you the ability to utilize FAA funding to remove the trees when time comes to do the permitting to remove the trees and everything else. Um without the easements, they will not FAA will not fund um the tree removal. Any
other questions? Now, what's your vote? >> Well, we're in this deep, you know. >> Well, you want, you know, it's we got to move forward. I would say
>> purpose. >> If we're going to have that done, we've already done all this work already. I don't see why we shouldn't proceed, but like Dave said, treat clearing is going to be whatever that cost is going to be after the fact. >> That's right.
>> And that's an added cost. So, I mean, it's a big number. Um, >> but you don't have a number until we get through this process. >> Absolutely. You know, so I I have to say yes, go ahead with this. So, I'll put a yes in because how are we going to know?
It's like fixing your car. I get an estimate of five grand, but it's only going to cost 2,300. And you're like, "Oh, okay. That wasn't so bad." >> That's right. >> So, I appreciate. Thank you, Al. >> David. >> Yeah. Go ahead, Andy.
>> Yes. >> Jim. >> Yes. >> Very good. So I will forward you that um blank fee spreadsheet tomorrow and provide you with the contact information for Susan Winslow. And then again um you know if
somebody else would like to be part of the negotiation on you know on that call like h happy to happy to include someone else. >> Let me know and I'll make it happen. It's a Zoom meeting isn't or a team.
>> It'll be a team. Yeah. Yeah. So, so as long as there's not a quorum of all commissioners, >> I can only use one other guy. >> Awful, >> huh? >> Teams is awful. >> Seems much easier, but whatever. >> I've had good luck with it. >> Really? Okay.
>> Yeah, I think a lot matters what your route is like and >> all that sort of stuff. But, um, >> okay. So, I will get that over to you and, um, we'll just keep keep moving forward. And you know the only funds that are being committed at this point
in time are to pay that fee estimator right now. Um move forward to the next project. There's really no update, no action. Um vegetation management plan. I know we talked about that at the last um meeting
at length. Effectively, we're still waiting for the uh for Mass DOT to provide their final comments on the scope of work. Um, so once we get those comments, we can review that final scope with the commission. Um, and
>> that'll be GZA on that one, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yep. GCA, Geo Environmental. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And they're they'll do the bulk of that work just grant paperwork and, you know,
>> we'll probably have a drought and see if we can stop the trees from growing. >> Okay. All right. That would be great. >> Yeah. Um, so no action on that project and that's all I have for today. >> Very good. >> Questions? No. Appreciate your time.
>> I will advise Isabelle on next month to have two months worth of information. Uh, on the next meeting, the fifth is actually the w first Wednesday. I'm thinking about either it may happen. I don't know. I'm trying
to finalize a vacation with my granddaughter and up in Maine and I don't know when that's going to happen. Um, but is everybody amendable to maybe delaying it a week if I have
to? They are leaving for Montana on August 8th, I believe. and try to we could be I think we're going to be the week before that type date. So the fifth probably will be okay
but I can't guarantee it right now. >> I'm perfectly okay with you >> moving it around >> moving the meeting around. >> I'll call you and talk to you as far as I'm concerned. >> Huh? >> One is as good as the other. >> Right. Any other >> Okay. The other question is do you want
to move up to city hall >> for what reason? Air conditioning maybe uh at least >> oh 3 months would be heat. >> I was going to say three or four months you could go I don't know June July August and
>> it's going to be raining in August on our next meeting. So >> yeah but it might be 103 I don't know I'm just you want to just wait. I mean I can make a last minute decision. Hey, I'm not suffering. >> If it's the first if it's the first
Wednesday of the month, nobody else has a meeting. They are all scheduled in the second and third weeks. So, it gets a little dicey if we move ahead, but if I move it ahead, but I just thought I'd ask you, find out what you're thinking. >> Road temperature activating. I was in
city hall this morning and it wasn't a whole lot. >> Yeah. >> Colder or cooler than this was. That was the first kind of caucus out there. >> I don't think you're uh finding anybody railing about the meeting location. So uh
>> well I just you know they it makes it a little simpler and then I don't have to pick up a camera and they just put it down and we can have it at the same time and then >> we'll try it. I see how it goes. >> Okay,
everybody agree with that? >> What was the What was the >> Going up to city hall. >> Walk in. It'll either be in the mayor's conference room or in the council chambers is the way I take it. And council
chambers, I think, is the only room that is fully air conditioned. Whereas the mayor's office might not be. mayor's not his office but his meeting room. They're both on one's on the second floor. The council chamber right opposite the elevator on the second
floor and mayor's office is he's at the end of the hall. It's the room on the left. >> We've used that office before. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I just thought I'm throwing that out there just to so that we don't have to if it's
at least it's not tomorrow, Friday, and into Saturday. It's going to be really hot. Um, other than that, you're fair. Is that what you're saying?
I'll make what I'm looking for. How about 6:07? >> Thank you all. >> Speeding right along here. >> Yes, I know. >> Thank you. And >> thank you. I will um I'll talk to you tomorrow then.
>> Yeah. Yeah.