All right. Good morning, everybody. Uh, today is Friday, April 18th, 2025. Uh, 8:30 a.m. Uh, we're in the Hubard Conference Room, uh, room 203, the second floor of the MA annex, uh, building here at Gardner City Hall, 115
Pleasant Street, Gardner, Massachusetts. Um, and this is, uh, the community development block grant, uh, steering committee public hearing, uh, that we're holding today. um like to kick off the meeting by um welcoming everybody and thank you for joining today. Um I know
we have a little bit of a new setup uh from the what the committee was before. So um thank you again uh for your attendance today. Um there'll be no voting procedures today and anything. I'm just kind of going over projects um status. Um I'll let you all know talk a
little bit about the FY25 and kind of where we sit with that. Um and yeah, today we'll be basically kind of just giving updates regarding to community development block grant uh projects. So um anybody have any questions or anything uh before we get going? Before
I begin? Okay, good. So I'll begin uh with the uh FY25 application. Um so that was just submitted um last week. Um, I finished that up. Um, in the documentation I provided you this one
here that's kind of like on the side um is the budget for the FY25. So, I'll just go through it quickly. The projects uh construction design for downtown phase 5. Um, the design of School Street School uh parking lot uh with an
accessible walking path to the Jackson Park and skate park. uh installation of fire electrical system at Waterford Street Community Center. Uh then going to the social service providers uh that were awarded this year. Uh Voices of Truths, Voices of Truth, excuse me,
domestic violence prevention, uh Gardner Community Action Committee uh food program, Gardner Athletic Program user fee program, Montichus Veterans Outreach Center Program, uh and the Gardener Emergency Housing Mission. Uh the total
that we submitted for is $850,000 of uh community development block grant funds. Um with a total of all the funds put together with other um funds committed for some of these projects, it would be 890,000 total. Um
so again, that's been submitted. Um the next steps is just to wait from the executive office of houses housing and livable communities uh the state to just give their opinion on um the projects meet the national objectives and just what else we might need going forward
with that. So um this is my first time submitting this. I know it takes some time from what I've heard a couple months. So um yeah that's kind of the next step is just to wait to hear from the state for that. But so they so this gets submitted to HLC. They let us know
if it checks out and say it does and add it to full then they let us know how to retrieve the funds and then the funds go to these organizations. Correct. Yeah. The step after that will be um they'll send a it's called special conditions um assessment. So it'll be like a list of
like 10 or so depending on you know the application and kind of where we stand with um the organiza with the OLC. He'll sometimes have different things that we have to meet before we officially get the funds released. So there'll be, you know, a little bit of a process with
that. And then for the school or the um the school um sorry design for downtown phase 5, we'll also need to do an environmental review for that I believe. So that will take a couple months depending uh you
know on how fast that goes. I have to work with Mass Historical Commission to get that um you know approval and everything. So once those are all checked and we get the official release of funds, then we can start officially giving like the checks and everything. Okay. And just um for the public
watching too, the nonCBG CDBG funding, I know it's you know we have 20,000 for the CAC, 10,000 for the Gardner athletic program user fees and then 10,000 for MBO. Can you just clarify where that would come from or
where that comes from? Yeah, so I I apologize. I don't have like the specific breakdown but each of these um uh service providers when they sent their application um they highlighted these amounts from the specific foundations and again I can I can provide that next to me. I just don't
have it in front of me but it's all specific like other organizations or foundations that they work with. So they just have to highlight like for the full program to get finished like this is the amount of funds we have to add to the CBDG portion for it. So, um, like I said, I
can get those specifics for next meeting. Great. That's helpful. And, um, just also for the benefit of the public watching too, you mentioned the, uh, environmental impact study for the downtown phase 5. Now, per the CDBG regulations, that's for projects that
are over $250,000, right? Correct. So, it's that's that's what triggers that is the dollar amount on the CDBG. Correct. Yeah. And it could be as simple as because there's not really any like demolition or anything happen on that. So, it might be as simple as them looking at the project and just giving it the approval usually for the
extensive environmental reviews I've done. Um, you know, you have to get Mass Historics involved and if it's a considered a historic property and then there's other hoops you have to go through. So, for this one, I don't see that being an issue since it's really just resurfacing and repaving of the sidewalks. Um, but I just wanted to say
that it would be something that, you know, has to come up. You know, the potential cost for that is included in that estimate. Yep. Yeah. So, we got the um quotes from Ty Bond uh before for this downtown phase 5. Um actually the downtown phase 5 and the design of school street um we got direct quotes
from time and bond um for for that these exact amounts that I put on here. Um and yeah, everything else is was submitted directly from the social service providers. And if and if you're going to get into this further in the agenda, I don't want
to get ahead of it too much, but just um for our benefit and the benefit of the public, um for the specific projects, can we just go through and maybe give a sentence or two on what specifically it's going towards? You know, if we have just a little more information so like
the gardener athletic program user fees, does it cover all students user fees for every sport all year? Like just, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah, just a little kind of sentence summary or something. Yeah, absolutely. So, I can start with the Voices of Truth domestic violence prevention program. So, I know they've been a social service provider,
partner with the city for many years. Um, they do great work. Bernice Richards over there, she's fantastic. Um, very nice, sweet, very, you know, um, a joy to talk to. Um, but I know they do a lot of work in the city in preventing um, and helping
um, people who have gone through domestic violence situations here in Gardner, offering them resources, you know, um, pro like different classes, you know, that they can take to kind of learn um, different resources and ways to get out of different situations. Um,
a lot of different um, events that they provide. So, this is for their general mission. Exactly. Yep. Um and then all the Garner Community Action Committee uh food program. So specifically they're asking for funding
um to pay for a community outreach um position there. Um the fun the 30,000 and the 20,000 will make up the whole salary for this position which is $50,000. um they'll work directly at the action committee food bank um to they'll
work to give food directly to residents as well as reaching out to different partners uh food banks and programs around the gardener area to partner with them. So um and again all these programs align directly with the a national objective of the CDBG program which is
to we have to the city has to meet a specific LMI resident served um number you know to meet that national objective. Um so all of them all these programs as well too will provide the reporting um you know the impact that each of these programs have and the
specific metrics that they're meeting with that that we sent to the state as well too. So, I just thought I'd mention that. Um, Garner athletic program user fee. Um, it is a program that's really cool. I think it's really cool here in Gardenner. All Garner public school um,
athletics get paid for um, for all students. Um, I think it's a $100 user fee or maybe it's gone up over the years. It's for all sports but hockey, it's a $100 per sport per season. Hockeyy's $500 a season. Um, so for this
would be the sixth year, the fifth year that we've made it so that none of our students have to pay any user any of those user fees and the remaining 10,000 was approved by the Rockwell Committee. Yes. Yep. Thank you. Yeah. So again, that's kind of an upset that's really cool program. I think um Montuset
Veterans Outreach Center. Um I know that's a program here in Gardner um that works a lot with the um uh veterans population that we have here in town, which I know we have a high high amount of veterans uh here in town. also working to help them get resources.
Um housing, you know, help. Um I know they do provide direct housing to a lot of veterans. Um I think they do food programs and food banks as well too. So a lot of good um direct help. Um they are specifically asking for funding this year for their food bank help. Um so
that's where that 20,000 um and 10,000 will go. 30,000 total for the Montusa Veterans Outreach Center. And then the last one I'll mention is that The last one on the list is the Gardener Emergency Housing Mission uh which is a fantastic organization here in the city
that works directly with families um here in town that are experiencing homelessness. Um I know providing direct rental assistance is kind of their main um attack at that. But I think also you know classes and um offering resources
as well to to residents but um haven't been discussed any of those further but and um just again as a reminder so downtown phase 5 that's sidewalk and the infrastructure improvements on Willow Street and Rum Square. Yep. Correct. Yeah. The corner there on Main Street that will be kind of right in front of
the demolition there of the old road building. So just that little part of Main Street as well. Thank you. The other two I think are pretty self-explanatory. Yep. Thank you. No problem. Any other questions? Uh I can
move on to um next on the agenda. Cool. So on the agenda, I'll just go in order just so it makes sense. I'm sorry I had 22 23 next, but I'll go with 24 next just cuz it's quicker and just so we can go in order. Um so the city has
released um or has received um the release of funds for this so we can officially begin committing funds um to all the projects here um for um FY24 the main infrastructure project I know is
the demolition of the school street school um which mayor I don't know if you want to say a quick word about the status of that. Um so this is one thing that uh we've been talking my office has been talking to uh the executive office of housing in local communities about um
in the fact that uh we've gotten a lot of interest through outreach we've been doing through the state for people to purchase the building and rehab the building and speaking with the building department. Um we probably got another year before the building's past its usable life. Um, but the reason we're we're in conversations with HLC is
they're the one connecting us with these potential developers, but also approving the funds for the demolition of the site. Um, so it's one of those things that we're in conversations with them on uh, you know, where the money doesn't have to be expended yet for the next couple months. They've advised us to
work with the legal department just to see if there's any title issues with the property, if there's any um, concerns regarding any restrictions with the property, anything like that. The legal department's currently in that review. Um, and once that review is done, we have a formal opinion that'll come to
both this committee and the city council for their notification. The council's already voted to declare the property surplus. Um, which is how one we were either able to sell it or demolish it. And because without that vote, we couldn't do either. Um, now that that's the case, because
um, both of these are coming from the same executive office. Uh once that's done, they'll also receive a copy of that opinion. If they determine based on that opinion, it's better to just go with the demo. Then they'll advise us to just go forward with the demo. If they determine based on that opinion,
uh we think, you know, try a last minute sale almost like a Hail Mary pass. And if you get a new one, try it. If not, just proceed with the demo type thing. If they do advise us, proceed with a sale of the property rather than the demolition. there. Uh, HLC regulations
and HUD regulations allow us to basically resubmit for up to three other projects total with the CDBG year uh that are infrastructure projects. Uh, so that would have to be something that would come back to this committee uh to decide
one move forward with the sale, move forward with the demolition. If we do move forward with the sale, what project should the funds get reassigned to from the demolition? from the demolition. Are we not having it? Yes. Yeah. Uh and that would be the $740,000.
Um if we move forward with the demolition, the council would have to then approve the free cash request for the matching $145,000. Um if we move forward with the uh with the sale, this committee would then have to say these are the projects we'd like to do, and we probably send a courtesy notification and ask for
another resolution of support from the city council and basically almost do a mini application process. It's not required, but I think it's just more transparent that way for everyone who's involved to know what's happening. Um, but where the state's pushing for more housing development, that's where
they've identified certain properties around the Commonwealth, not just here in Gardener, but in other communities as well, saying that these are properties that could be rehabilitated into housing. And it's from those discussions that led to this here. So, our approvals have come from all CDBG requirements to
move forward with anything with the demo, but there they're, you know, asking us basically, can you just take a last look before you demo it to see if it's viable for any housing concerns? Um, the reason we went forward with the demo originally is there were some questions as to uh any title issues or
restrictions with the property before where a portion of it uh around the parcel was uh you know purchased by the city for Jackson playground. Uh the law department's looking to see if because that happened before the property was then converted into a school because
that section's actually underneath the building of the school itself. if that then adversely possesses that restriction and makes it so that the property can be used. Uh which is what we're seeing in other communities do that as well. I think that happened in Westfield most recently. Uh so that's the update on the fact that we're kind
of just waiting on the demolition yet because that process that the secretary's office has requested us to go is just in review right now. Okay. And so if we find someone, what if we find someone who's just like,
"Could this go for the demolition?" Someone's like, "Well, I want the property. I'm going to build on it if you demo it." You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. It could be one of the We could do some type of negotiation to be like, you know what I'm saying? Like I didn't know if that was allowed. And I understand the state's mission for housing. I totally get that. Someone's like, "Sure, I'll put housing on it, but not in that building, but I'll put it on
that space and, you know, give me some help here with this." You know, I just feel like that makes as much sense. Just get some get tax money out of it. Quite honestly, get people housing who need it. Exactly. Okay. Exactly. Thank you. Um, if we do move forward with the demolition too, that will also free up $90,000 in the FY24 application that's
meant to pave the parcel that after it's demo demoed. Um, so that again, that would be the same process as if we move forward here where we have the $750,000. Just trying to see if there's another project to reassign that to. Thank you. Yeah. So, um, we'll be in talks about that update. Um, but
otherwise throw a rent into a project here. Appreciate appreciate the detail update. Thank you very much. I think the transparency is important because that's how a lot of these things work a lot of the time. I think you have a plan, but it's just a plan. You have to pivot. And if it saves the building potentially,
great. And if we find out we have to demo the building and save the parcel in the end, also great. Well, and also the expenditure. Is it going to be to the city? You know, what's it going to be? It's like it stays all within this realm. Great to keep it that way. So for sorry I just wanted to ask a quick
question in regards to um how those funds would then be distributed if they were to be refunded in total like we have 79 700,000 for FY24 which would have to be distributed amongst uh up to three projects and then 90,000 would
have to be a separate program that would total up to 90,000. They can't be like correct distributed between them. I just wanted to make that clear for when we do get those submissions in that we are restricted to like up to 90,000 for one project then up to 700,000 for the other
that the funds can't just be in inter so 90,000 would be connected to FY2 so it be like an individual project and the reasoning for that not to belabor a point here but just to clarify because just as this is a confusing program um so I think for the benefit of
like people here people who are watching too uh the way that the regulations for CDBG work is a the city can pick up to three infrastructure projects a year. That can be three city infrastructure projects or that can be three two from a city and one from a nonprofit
organization or something like that. So for instance, if uh a the community health center wanted to put a ramp on their property, which was an application that we received earlier this year, that would actually be considered an infrastructure project because it's building something, not a social service
program because it's helping a nonprofit. So things like that can tra travel there. That's why for the FY24 application where we only had one infrastructure project and that one infrastructure project was the demolition of School Street School, we can reassign that funding to up to three
different projects because we then wouldn't have an infrastructure project on the docket. For FY25 where we have downtown phase 4 and the Waterford Community Center project, that's already two projects. So that $90,000 could only go to one. that couldn't be then split
up like we could do an FY24's application because we already have two existing infrastructure projects for FY25. Okay, so that's the difference between the two there. Okay, thank you. Any questions regarding um anything I guess before I continue? Oh, that was
totally clear. Great. Um a long way to get there. Yeah. Right. Right. So um and I'll just briefly still on the topic of FY24 I'll just mention the social service uh provide projects a lot of them are the same um as FY25 gardener CAC uh it's going to be
the same thing for that uh same position gardener athletic program it's the same paying for student user fees domestic violence prevention services um same programs that I mentioned before as well and then same thing with the Garner Emergency Housing Mission um and you can
And I'll just read the breakdown for the public. Um the um gardener athletic program is 15,000. Um the homeless prevention services is 5,000. The domestic violence prevention
services is 12,000. And the food pantry position is 16,000. Um, I have currently two of those uh contracts officially filled out for FY24. I'm just waiting for two other partners to come in at their convenience to do that. Um, once that's complete,
I'm going to begin working with the service providers to begin when the program begins or if it's ongoing to start giving the LMI numbers, reporting as well as the invoices um so we can start beginning to cut the checks. Um I did confirm with uh city auditor John
Richard that the accounts are set up uh for all these projects. Um so again just going to continue to work with the provider to get the necessary information we need to report to the state for these projects. So 24 and I know we haven't got to 22 and 23 yet
maybe that's different but 24 22 and 23 all the work that needed to be done to essentially just close those out so funds can go is is where it needs to be at this point. is am I understanding that correctly? So, you're asking like we we're at the point where like funds can be committed to everything in those
two grants. Yes. Right. Like I know you have to basically go back and finish all of those and then submit 25 on time this year. No, I just wanted to be sure like I just wanted to be clear that like that's all been done and it just it's it's signatures and paperwork at this point, but that that's not complicated.
Yeah, it's signatures and paperwork. Yeah. And obviously just the closing out of the current projects that are going on. But yes, like the funds are fully there and committed and like that part is done. It's just like the once everything's like officially wrapped up, you know, doing the official close out,
which is a whole other process. But yes, to answer your original question, it's all committed and ready to go for those. Y um just for the benefit again for the people watching, LMI is the low to moderate income we have. Yeah. It's a um
a statistic used by HUD um and the executive office of hazable and livable communities. Um again a lot of these projects we have to meet a national objective um which um HUD um mandates um and it has to
meet some of them it's slum and blight which is a whole other thing but some of them have to meet the LMI numbers so over 51% I think is the threshold for these programs for the service area. So, um, I worked with the program representatives and all these projects,
um, at the state to make sure that they're meeting those requirements. And me and the state have had, I would say, pretty constant communication over the last, uh, month, months to a year. So, um, I think all those meet that adequately. Again, you know, we'll see when it comes back, but um, that's just
kind of like an overview of the LMI statistic and what goes into that. Um, and and moving forward with these kinds of things. So would we expect that like in the f so once you've closed all these out we're basically a lot of progress was done on that to get them to this point but moving forward like we've
submitted FY25 so there won't be going back in the future to have to do all of this for other years fiscal years right no that's not like typical of this we wouldn't normally get an update of all of this all at once typically things would have been closed out like funds would have been dispensed like this is
just this is just clean up is for lack of a better term Yeah, absolutely. And you know, I know some years some projects, you know, things happen and they go longer than expected or there's unexpected things that come up that delay it. So, you know, I think it it really depends on the year and kind of
what happened in that year, but um yeah, like like you said, like it's it's once these are cleaned up and again, we're we're at a pretty good spot and I'll talk a little bit about 22 and 23, but the progress with those projects and I feel we're at a good space place where they will be closed reasonably soon and
then start that actual like complete closeout process with the state. I just wanted to make it clear like this isn't typical, but it's where we're at is the best place we're going to be for now and then moving forward, we'll try not to be here, but it's possible because like you said, projects just don't work out. You know, things happen and that's fine. But
this seemed like it was just it was just a lot. So, I just wanted to be clear that like that's been cleaned up. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. And that you've done a boatload of work to clean that up. I know. We Well, we had a conversation at another meeting that one of the Echo Dev meetings about we're like, "Wow." You know, and I just wanted that's kind of what I was going off
like, "Wow, this is like No, it can be confusing." I know cuz it's going back in years and like the projects are still currently going on but it's connected to a past year. So I know it can be confusing. So um and again if anybody's listening in the public and wants to call in or has any questions too they're
welcome to anytime you know I'm happy to you know answer any questions. Um I'll move on to FY22 and 23 I guess then if nobody has any more questions on 24. Okay. Um, so I will begin with the
demolition of the Greenwood pool. Um, which I know is a big uh topic here in town. Um, so I'll read off the bidding schedule, but I have it here on the current project list um that I gave everybody. Um, so the um project was posted in the central register
advertisement um portal on April 3rd, 2025. Uh the bid documents were posted officially on uh April 9th, 2025. We had the pre-bid meeting yesterday, um, Thursday, April 17th, 2025 at 10:00 a.m.
at the Greenwood Pool site. It was a good turnout. We had, I would say, I'll have to look at the exact list, but like seven or eight contractors show up, which was good. There's a lot of local um, people that we were familiar with, too. We know, you know, reputable organizations, so obviously go through
the bid process. Um, but yeah, it was a good turnout, so that was hopeful. Um and yeah, so then a next steps will be the bid will open uh next week, April 24th, uh 2025 at 3 p.m. here at city hall in the purchasing department. Um
and that will also be live I believe on the city's YouTube um channel. Um and yeah, the after that once the uh contract is awarded um say it would be maybe a month of like completing the all
the paperwork and everything and making sure that's finalized and then get going on the um abatement process which will have have to happen first and then the actual demolition of the pool itself. um time bond. It knows that the city wants
to get it down as soon as possible and they're, you know, totally on board with that. Um and within mind with the swim season and that beginning um and trying not to interfere with that, you know, if possible, there will be I know a I can't remember exactly the
dimensions, but it's pretty thick, pretty high fence fencing that's going to be around um the pool. And uh to the mayor's request, it's not going to be see-through either. It's going to be the a really that tarp tarp material. Yeah, exactly. So, um and I think it's going
to be an eight or 10 foot high. Yeah, it was really it was really tall. So again, they're going to really try to make the demolition happen before swim season, but if it were to interlap at all, you know, I I think the um parameter which they're setting
will be safe, you know, in terms to still um cuz I think it's still 30 ft or so of fencing where it's going to be from the actual pool itself. So um again, we don't know exactly if that's going to be the case. um but timed on and the contractor will work to try to get that done as quickly as possible not
to interfere with the swim season. But swim season starts on June 18th. Y um and uh they know that it's you know our ideal situation would be that the building is down by then. That doesn't mean the debris is hauled off correct by then. So it's one of those two that they
may they may still be working to remove the debris from the demolition but not demoing the building itself. I would um I'm just I wonder this is great. Um I think uh I would wonder if the green the sign on the side of the Greenwood pool could be kept and we're
going to put that somewhere. Okay. Yeah, the sign will be kept. The copper Koopa. Well, yeah, there's more, but I just that one. I just I didn't so to drive the conversation, but thank you. The front desk, too, when you first walk in, that will also be saved. Uh like the mayor mentioned, two Koopas on top.
There's a like round ball um I don't know exactly what they're called but like structures on the roof too. The historical commission we actually have a whole contract with the historical commission on things they want to try to keep. So um I actually Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I can provide you guys copies of that if you'd like to see it. But it's
just those three things and then like plaques and awards and all that. So that was been taken out years ago. Yeah. Yep. Allan um also went through and I know looked at a lot of stuff. So, I think a lot of the stuff, but there wasn't a ton of things, but what was there, you know,
was salvaged. Um, but, um, yeah, looking forward to that beginning soon. Um, and yeah, that's kind of really it with that. Does anybody have any questions? I guess specifically with that project. Thanks for getting it going. You're welcome. Yeah, no problem. Uh, move on
to the demolition at 205213 Main Street of the Old Room Rome building here in town. Um so there the substantial completion date has been moved back currently to now May 9th. Um so there was
um a couple of things that came up which pushed it back um a week or so but nothing major. Um they were able to get the um uh the groundwater in the basement out and tested and that was um safe for them to disperse up. So they
figured that out which was kind of a they were waiting a lot for the test. So I think that was a big part of it. So um that's been figured out. They will begin the demolition. So the abatement sorry the abatement process of the building is complete. So that's all done in the
basement. Everything all the pipes um and the lines the the sewer lines electrical lines everything is cut gas lines. So the building is ready to begin demolition. And I be believe that it's going to begin next week. The actual like knocking it down. Um they'll start
with the 16 Willow address part of it. So like once you go up Willow Street there, it's still connected to the building, but like the back kind of apartment garage area there, that will go down first and then uh the they'll do the main street part of it after. Um
they will have to I think when they do the Willow Street part, block off Willow Street. Um, and the contractor is in communication with Lieutenant Arsenal with the Gardener Police Department um, for coordinating that, making sure they have an officer on scene to direct
traffic. Um, but like I said, I think that should begin next week. Um, delays like that in an older building are usual for something like this, too. And it was the really the main reason was the standing water in the basement. Uh, that we needed to test to see if it was contaminated with if there was lead
paint in the basement, if there was a specus in the basement. Once the water came out, did it absorb any of those contaminations? In which case, you can't dump it in a storm drain. And if it is comes does come back clean, you can just pump it out with a regular pump. Right. So, since it came back clean, that's what was done. Yeah. But we had to wait
for those results. Otherwise, we didn't want to send anything contaminated to the wrong place. We uh got the results like the mayor said, and we also had to get approval um from Micah Blond Blonde. Blonde Blonde, sorry. director of um public health here in the city and then
also Rob Ola too, city engineer. So, they've both had to give an approval on that as well. Okay. Um but that's really all I have for that building and project if anybody has any specific questions or anything. Um and then I'll just add so the social
services for FY22 and 23 have all been completed um and cashed out except uh for the Boys and Girls Club. Um, I'm still working with um their team to get the necessary documents and invoices I need. Um, I think it's been a really
busy year and time for them. Um, so things communication's just been a little tough, but um, just trying to stay on top of them. They know what they need to send me. It's just a matter of getting it at this point to cut them the check, the account, and everything is set up. Um, and the program has already been completed. It's just more or less
because this is a previous grant year. just getting the information of, you know, the statistics from the program, what happened and the invoices and everything. So, um, we'll give everybody an update on that, but that's the only social service for FY2223 that has not been um, ba out, but
everything else has. And, um, and Evan, for those documents, because we talked about how before the that LMIO moderate income national standard is there, we need that type of information for the social services and they serve too. So it's the demographic information of kids who are in those programs and then it's
a reimburseable grant. So that's why we need those correct receipts and invoices so that we can re reimburse them for the cost. Right. It's the LMI information as along with like a report from the actual um program itself like what what actually happened. Yeah. you know, um
documentation um of people signing up, you know, um sometimes programs provide pictures and things of the actual, you know, if it's a class or something happening. So, um stuff to prove it was actually done. Exactly. Proceeds. Yeah.
Um but that's all I really had for that grant as well and kind of everything today unless anybody had any questions about anything I talked about or like further clarification. Good job. Thank you. Well, thank you. This is really helpful. Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, I'll just make a
motion to adjourn uh today's meeting then. Second. Thank you everybody. Thank you.