--------- really fun. All right, let's get started. All right, let's get started everybody. Let's uh keep the cross talk to a minimum. Uh first on the agenda is public comment. Uh would somebody anybody in the audience have anything they want to discuss as public comment?
I state your name for the record, please. It's Mary E. Marsh. Thank you, Mary. It's in regards to the sludge landfill, the current sludge
landfill. This afternoon at 4:45, I went to St. John's Cemetery. I had been at Notraam all afternoon. I did not smell the terrible odor of the sledge at Notraam, but when I got to St. John's,
it was really overpowering. I attempted to call Violia to report it and kept getting phone busy uh call back on my phone until up until
6:00. So the reporting of foul odors is not easy. Thank you. before the end of the meeting or at the end of the meeting if you just give me the number that you will call and I'll just cross reference it. Thank
you. Anybody else? Alan Russo Spring Road. Um I visited the landfill site on on Saturday um after the um after the storm activity happened
particularly on Saturday. hours. I did send uh the Conservation Commission an email with some photographs that I took. I don't have all the email address. I apologize for that. I know there's been a lot of changes, but I'll I'll get caught up with that eventually. I'm sure
Justin will uh get things around. Um but on the photographs, the um I started with upfall pipe 2, which has been that upfall pipe has been discharging through the wetland area. Uh considerable amount of water in there. There was a a
siltation barrier set up and it was, you know, at least half to 3/4 filled with liquid. I'm using the word liquid because I'm really not sure what's in there. I don't want to overuse the word water. We know that the rainfall is is causing that mixing with it. But anyhow,
uh that was built. It was eroding, not eroding, but seeping underneath some of the sedimentation barrier, that smaller one. uh and the whole rest of the area I was out there with, you know, regular muck boots and I I was in a foot to at
least a foot, maybe 15 inches of water trying to observe what was going on. Um again, without sampling equipment, what I saw was was water that was murky even though it was fresh rainfall. Uh could indicate sediment. I don't know. But
that whole expanded sedimentation basin there is all full of water. I mean, it's functioning like a detention basin, but it's not really a detention basin because it's it's releasing. And then when you go beyond that, you can still see buckling further south into the wetland. Now, going one of the other
pictures I showed was the was when you're uh on the um fence line and you're looking up into that area upstream from Mount Fall 2. Uh you can see where they've put some material there to try to stabilize the slope. Well, around the the west side of that
area, I can see channels that indicate erosion. Now, by the time I got out there, there wasn't water flowing there, but it's obvious it's flowing there. The check dam is there at the bottom. It's a huge check dam. But my concern with that whole thing, as you look further up in
the saltfish, is that that liquid that is flowing off from the containment area where the sludge is. So, that brings me to the second thing that I sent you, which is a DMI report. These are done. I think these are federally required because it discharges
to a um outside to a wetland area. So it's discharge monitoring report. It's showing three areas where there were exceedences out of the four. So I'm not sure why isn't trying to explain this but I got this from the project manager
Joe. Uh the other thing is uh PAS and I sent you the report most recent quarterly PAS report. Uh the PAS is tested in sludge now. It's been so since the middle of 2023. Uh so I requested through public
records request it's in there. Uh again my concern I know I'm running up on the time here. So in wrapping up main concern is not just runoff and erosion sediment. I'm worried about hazardous chemicals. They're in the sludge. We know they're in the sludge def. We know
that one core dioxide is uh is in there and that has come off site. So uh I'm I'm kind of surprised I don't I don't see the DPW department here tonight, the owner of the landfill, nor do I see the operator of the landfill, the only that was
discussed at the last conservation commission meeting. Don't know why they're not here, but this issue has got to be addressed. It's not going away on its own. If an Elijah rainfall event happens, it's just going to get more. So that's really I have for you tonight. If you have any questions on
what I've sent, you can always reply to me and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Thank you, Al. Thank you. Anybody else for public comment? All right. Next is the meeting minutes from We're still getting caught up. The meeting minutes back from
Monday, January 27th, 2025. I'll make a proposal. We make uh we both have remaining. Someone like to make a make a second that. All in favor? I I thank you. Does this
approve? Uh nothing. Sir, uh request for certificate compliance on the enforcement order on the sludge landfill. Um we just heard from Mr. Russo. You could follow up on that email and check
in. I know we have not heard from DP uh DP and I thought we did talk about having um them come back. Could you follow up in writing um on that request? And I also I got to hold on. I also put a note on here. Could you get the reports from the last few
significant rainfalls per their own maintenance records too? But I did. No, I was just clarifying. I thought we requested them to come to this meeting. Was that not We We did. Oh, we did. We didn't. We did. You did. So, I'm just
clarifying. They blew it off. It Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead. When do we start talking about more serious um response? Um soon. Yeah. I think it's
it's it's prudent to get going on it because it it's been months. Um they had not attended all the other meetings. There's a standing enforcement order. In my mind, they should be here until it's closed. Um there's no there's no communication. We have others on here in enforcement orders. We're getting constant
communication from them. I understand the D has not responded. We've reached out. Um but that doesn't mean we don't carry on with the people that work for the city employees as well and we're asking for them to provide more information. They did send out some some communication. Um but it really didn't
qualify anything further than what we're looking for. Go ahead, David. I was just going to um I maybe just double down on the fact that we asked them for a formal presentation of what they're actually doing beyond what they just said verbally including these latest rain events and whether that current
structure that exists down there is actually functioning properly anymore. It looks clearly like it is not. No, it's failing. So especially in alpha 2. I mean and then site remediation still is an open question. So I' I'd like to hear from the contractor. Yeah, what we
asked and what we asked the last time, well, they report to me, but they they weren't. We've asked again. So, we'll say for record, we would like uh Viola and the DPW director or and or the assistant director to attend our meeting and give us an update where they where
they stand in their process. I don't want to accept that D hasn't responded as as as something that's just going to make it go away. It still should be some remediation um and some repairs beyond what they've done. So far it's not rectifying the
issue. It's it's a slight patch and with the recent rains I'm going to again ask for the record all the reports they've had for the last two to three weeks with all the significant rainfall what what's been done and then next meeting we'll make this to the next
we take it to the next step. Go ahead. One final thing in the testing of whatever happened out there and we should probably test again with the new all this new stuff coming out and that in the communication.
Yep. So again, just put it in writing, copy the commission, and maybe we need to start copying the mayor. I don't know. That's how we should. I'm sure they're not blowing it off. They're trying but I've not seen the mayor.
Y just in case too those ones for that those were just sent at the end of the day. Oh, okay. You might have I got Okay. Nicholas, did you get them?
I did not check. Yeah, I mean that we're all like I just sent them again. I sent them over to you. Make sure you get them. I think they'll come in with your email. I didn't receive them prior. It's probably going to take a few
minutes because of the All right. Well, going to keep that open. And if you have any questions on the correspondence or request from the commission, Jeff. Okay. And then, um, Nicole Terrace. Um, hand
delivery. Don't email it. Hand delivery. Do both. Oh, yeah. Do both. I like that idea. So, in the 36 Nicole Terrace, we did get some email an email from Maryanne and
she does talk about some of the work that's been done so far. Everybody has that communication in the package. Yeah, she's not going to be here tonight. She's asking for a continuence, right? I believe that she'll have a lot of she we
asked for her to first meeting in June. Yeah. So, we gave her some time to get all this done. Okay. And she is doing it. It's just uh we asked for some more communication and some updates. And in the meantime, I'm constructing the addendums for both of
those enforcement orders as well kind of thing to include that vegetation monitoring period that was discussed. Um, so this is for 36 Nicole Terrace. Anything on 282 Brookside? Uh, no. But I did receive an email on Friday or
Thursday, Friday saying that she'd be going over there to further evaluate the situation over there. Okay. So, someone like to make a motion to continue 36 Nicole Terrace to the ninth. I make a motion to continue to the
ninth. So, I second that. I'll second it. All in favor? I. And then the same thing on the um 282 Brookside Drive. There's someone that can make a motion to continue to the 9th of June. I make a motion to continue to 9th of
June. Thank you. Second. Second. All in favor? Thank you. Next is a notice of intent for zero Betty Spring Road. The Gardener Conservation Commission will hold a joint public hearing under MDL chapter 131 section 40 in the Wildlands Protection Act and City of Gardener
Wetland Protection Ordinance and notice followed by Gartner Consulting LLC on behalf of Wine Crest Properties for the proposed construction of a single family home driveway and associate utilities. This project is located off Betty Spring
Road in Gardener. It's map R27-25-24 and a portion of the work uh is set to occur within the buffer zone of a boring vegetative wetland. It's D160-0675. State your name for the record. Good evening. For the record,
Justin County Engineering. Also with me is Andrew Tball of GD Consultant. So last time we were in front of the commission, we ironed out the majority of the details. The last two open items was soil testing for the rain garden as
well as relocating the under drain for said rain garden. So just to remind the commission there's a pocket of weapon down here. You have your 30ft no 60 build the 100 buffer comes up here in the driveway up into the slope. single
family home retained walls, some off grain, a piece of diaphragm here that comes down to set rain garden. So, first thing I'll talk about is the under drain. Originally, we had the under drain here in the center of the rain garden and poking directly straight out
into the 30 mil. Based on elevations, we that was the only spot we could put it after talking with DPW and engineering. They are allowing us to connect said under drain into the catch basin located here
next to the water system. So this catch basin takes in runoff from the road goes under bay spring road and discharges down the slope and then into the pond. So all we're proposing to do is come out from the rain garden, come into the
shoulder of the road, down the shoulder of the road between the edge pavement as well as the existing utility pole and tie into the back of the catch basin. So that was one item. Second item was soil testing. So I did go out on site
uh say engineer did come out witness the testing. I did add the test pit data to the plan. We found groundwater to be at 3 ft. So our rain garden is approximately 1 ft above groundwater. Because I'm not accounting for
infiltration in the rain garden, we don't have to meet the minimum twoft offset as part of the stormware standards. So with that, those were the two major open items. If the commission has any additional questions, happy to answer them. Yeah, go ahead, Brian. Just
clarification. So um I guess you forgot about the pipe. So So the water's coming through. Is that is that a pipe? The blue might pipe. So it's not not flowing into the lap at all. No. So there is a existing spill. There is a spillway here. So if anything naturally stages
up, it'll overflow in the rain garden. In the rain garden. But the pipe because of the depth of rain water and the way that these rain gardens are designed and built, you put the end of drain in them to make sure that they do fully draw
down because in the event of back back to back heavy storms, especially here, and even though we do have an agreement with DPW that we can do a little bit of grading in the shoulder, if the under drain isn't here, back to back heavy rain events.
there's a potential for this rain garden to flood over onto Betty Spring and I don't know if some of the commissioners have gone down that road especially and again below our site so it's not the issue of our site you do get some
potential flooding so with the under drain especially for where this is is needed to not exasperate that condition I got a question for you I'll at the at the U entrance to that. Um, Cul is that CO
functioning properly? It is. I did go I know last time we were out there the road was flooded. Yes. And that was one of the heavy intense rain events. When I went out there as part of the soil testing, it
was I think a day after we had rain. So the road wasn't flooded. You could see that the water was being conveyed to the catch basin and you could hear in the catch basin see that water was getting in and going out. So I think when we went it was
probably a maintenance issue for DPW to go in and clean that catch basin. But yes, it does function in a capacity. You didn't Yeah. How big is the pipe?
Anybody look, Jack? I believe it's a 12in pipe from what I can see. Again, it's not the cleanest looking catch basin, so it's hard to fully gauge, but your standard pipe in a catch basin like this would be a 12 in. From what I could
see, it was adequate to a 12-in pipe. And again, the end of drain here isn't adding an extreme amount flow. It's just to wick the bottom of the rain garden. So the under drain is not going to blow
out the sides of that pipe. The majority of the flow, if any, from the rain garden is directed to come through the woods and the grass to the wetland naturally. Go ahead. I had a question. Um I like how big is that rain garden? And I just
I have no idea if it needs to be a particular size or not. It's a fairly steep slope. It comes down through that diaphragm or whatever. So So the actual size forget the planting seemed fine, but I'm just curious. Yeah. So it looks small. It does. So the reason it's small
is we did not size it to handle to fully handle the peak runoff. What we did was we sized it to the one in water quality volume. So based on area and depth is how we get that and
the way I would say this is it's sized I maximize the size to reduce the impact to maintain the water quality. So if I do anything bigger yes I do detain more water but I'm eating
into the slope more. I'm further impacting buffer zones. So I'm trying to balance how big to make it and this thing is also sized so that it doesn't over top in any of the rain events. So
and that's the concern. We don't want to make something so small that no matter what it Justin so what what happens if this rain guard isn't maintained or doesn't or five years from now it dies off what
is the plan? So typically with these we do provide an operation maintenance plan with that we have the inspection schedule how it's to be maintained we have been being asked by commissions to take that O andM and have it attached to
the order conditions which is then recorded the registry of deeds. So that and M is tied to the deed and to the property. Yeah that hasn't been working too well for us and you probably heard it here. Yeah. Is there any other way you can recommend that that that is attached to the property and they're
aware of it, the owners? Can we put a letter in there that they have to acknowledge and get it, you know, um notorized and sent back to the commission? They understand that responsibility because what's happening is we finding all these, you know, if you you can tell we have these two or three year on enforcement orders, but
they didn't know that it was even there. What do you else do you see really? It's more on the plan side. So with the plan side we have to file it's typically a special permit for Sar
permit in our municipalities and with that special permit comes set conditions which is one of the conditions is soar BMPs are to be adequately maintained in accordance with the operation maintenance plan provided and
again no one is attached to the department of registry deeds is recorded it's now a recorded document on the registry. It's a legal binding document. I just don't think the average homeowner, maybe the first person that lives there for 15 years, but the next
one, they don't even know what it is. So, it would So, it would come up at the sale. It hasn't. Well, I have had it come up at the sale because as part of your title search, any permits and anything
attached to said permits would come up. So an operation maintenance plan attached to a special permit attached to an order of condition would come up in a title search and that's why the municipalities have been doing it that way to make sure
it gets caught at the transfer. Yeah. But what recourse do we have once say that that doesn't take and it's 2 years down the road? So an instance like this where the rain garden is adjacent to a
wetland resource area. If there's any potential issue with the rain garden, you could potentially see let's say it's not kept. Let's say there's a super amount of sedimentation in the rain garden. Well, at some point that sedimentation is going to end up
going into the wetland and at that point enforcement board can be acted by the conservation commission. Yeah. But it's a matter of us maintaining that. And we have some of the other properties we're doing the same for. So I guess I don't I'm just trying to pick No, no. And I I get where you're trying to go and it's
really other than tying it to the deed. So it is a record document in a registry and having the power for the enforcement order. It really is like anything that's hard to get people to. It's impossible. Yeah. I can show you
three right in town. one is is is on private property but the big one is on state property and they haven't maintained it at all. So I completely understand but that's at the behest of the owners. So we have to
be reactive rather than proactive in a way. Yeah. And again, it's in the our municipalities, part of their conditions is to submit annual the annual annual reports for the SOMR on M
that in that department. In our on M, we have a checklist and it's a little table that lists every BMP on site, what's to be inspected, what's to be done, and there's a spot to uh sign who did it and
what date and other municipalities have been requiring that to be annual. Typically, you have month depending on the BMP, it's monthly, quarterly, annually sending annually. So that could be something that O and plan
to be submitted to the conservation commission on an annual basis. Do you have the on plan? Not on me, but I can for PDF of it off that can be attached to the conditions.
We can either do that or even be duplicative with having a letter that also explains it. That's what I mean. I mean something they have to finding that comes back somewhat. so that they can say yeah I am aware of this rather than just having it be a part of some document or
that again the new ordinances are coming into municipalities a lot of them are in but some are still being fine-tuned and it is a getting homeowners to go by the operation maintenance plan has been a
struggle so we should go into this assuming that this is not maintained correct Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. And so and it's in no it's in the no build zone. It's we I've been to quite a few closing in time, right? And
you know when you get Hey, listen. You sign it. Nobody reads them. Nobody. So just to make a point, the rain guard is not in the no service. It's right outside of it. The only thing
within the 30 no no no is yes right but yeah and it's a rain garden is a fancier detention basin so it's just grading it's a whole with plantings in it when would construction start and
finish at least the site work that that's in our jurisdiction to get start he's been calling me so okay perfect so the client to get started he's been calling the you asking when an approval is coming. So the expectation would be as soon as you know if they feel very
fast that it's recorded. I believe it would be as soon as able to start roughly. Anybody on the commission have any questions or comments? Is there a question about the um where the where the driveway is the road? Yeah. So is that is there zoning or you
couldn't go far northwest or I question? Yeah. So the issue is we do have where we are on the corner. We're trying to get away from the corner as not to hinder sight distances for the driveway and then based on grading and
the existing topography. If we slip this driveway any further up, we would either end up offgrading off our property or we need a retaining wall at the top. And when I originally did look at trying to shut
the driveway up, I ended up at almost a 10ft retain at one point, which isn't feasible on the construction and especially putting a retain right up against someone else's property. So, so that's how we got to
where the driveway is now. trying to balance as much reducing the impact within the buffer zones as much as possible but still being able to grade this and keep some cost in mind cuz again we do have a table it's up here so
there is I'm going to ask him that question again the size of it right back what's the size what's the dimensions of the ring gap 30 by Yeah. 20 21 probably
uh three 20 by 10. That's pretty good. It looks small. I know. But it's a large size that the scale is Yeah. scale to how would you determine the size of it? So again, we base that off of the 1 in
water quality volume. So what we do is we take the 1 in of the impervious on site that would be going to the stormwater BMP we multiply so if it's 2,000 ft multiply that by 1 in divide that by 12 you get cubic feet and then
we just do area times depth to get the volume that would meet that required water volume. So so I mean so do you take into consideration of of rainfall? Yeah, as
part of our storm model, we take the most recent rainfall data from this area and incorporate that into our model. So on top of size for the 1 in water quality volume, this did run into our it's called hydrocad. So it ran into our
hydrocad model where we had uh two 10, 25, 50, and 100 year storm events. We route that rainfall intensity through this rain garden to see what our pre-post numbers are. So again, this is
size not only for the water quality volume but also during those rain events, it does not over top and flood in any direction. It other than whatever discharges through the spillway. So that's how we and that's your typical
design for tiny rain gardens to giant storm water detention bases. So So if we assume it's not maintained in the future um any foot away from water couldn't make any more deeper you
could go deeper because at some point when you get deep enough you're at groundwater you lose that volume because your ground water is going to seep into it. So realistically, if they ever decide to change this, it would only be allowed to
get bigger this way. So these grapes would get pulled tighter and come bigger this way. If we were to make it say wider instead of deeper, is that actually accomplish it, right? Not really because the way that's also
you're going to pull these grades, you're going to end up taking more too. So you get bigger but you're going to direct more to it. So you're not getting that trade-off that you're looking for. Anybody have anything else?
Brian good. Yeah. Well, I don't know what else we can do up with that in that driveway dira. I just get worried that rain guard is not going to make it cuz I mean the first couple feet of your guard gets abolished with salt. It's true. None of
them are maintained. I I you know none of them have been you know there's trees growing up throwing everything like that. So with this one, so the um can you sort of like just with your finger draw say the water shed? So this this is all
ract. Yeah, this is lower. Yeah. Or this is higher. So this all comes this way. But you do have woods and grass in here. This driveway is designed to get directed towards this piece diaphragm which again we were very conservative in
our model. There will be natural infiltration in the pome diaphragm all the way through to the main garden. So it even though it gets into the piso diaphragm, there's a volume in here. There is some infiltration. So you do have volume here and you have volume
here that takes in all that water and it'll infiltrate as it comes down the piece diaphragm. Eventually whatever's left over and doesn't get infiltrated gets dumped into the rain where it's detained. My model did not again account for infiltration due to groundwater and
being conservative but realistically there is a little bit of infiltration that just naturally occur. So that's really how we do it. We take the proposed grades. We look at okay where's everything going? It's mean it's directed towards spring road. We
take what we can. So these all come down this way. then gets down to the bottom of the driveway and there's a point to direct it back to the rad. Josh, you have any comments on this? Anybody else have any other comments?
Anything? So, I guess I'm just kind of thinking about bringing it up to a vote, but I'm still stuck on Leonin and how we can figure out a way to get that to be maintained long term.
I agree with that, Mr. Chair. Yes, I know what you're saying. So I think conditioning the annual reporting of the on andm is how you do that because at that
point pick a date whatever April 15th May 15th whatever the commission should be receiving either the actual copy of the on and m filled out or a letter or something that states when it was inspected what work was done if any or
was it found to be in fair condition. The commission should get that set date passes. The agent can reach out to the owner and say, "Where's my report?" And either, "Oh, yep. We'll get it right to you." Or if you no response,
then you have the Browns enforcement over. But I think having that type of condition where it it's really our Ms are two pages. The first one is the very the owner is the one operating maintenance of it. We kind of
list what the what they are, what they should be doing. And the second page is a table again that just initial date submit. So it's not an excessive document that needs to get filled out. It's one page. That's better what we currently have. We
can build an annual reminder and if we don't get it, we'll move on. Okay. It's a little better. it and it's just it's a reminder and check. Okay, here's all our M&M's in the city, right? Just have it, don't have it, have it, don't have it, and you send a notification for the ones
that you don't have. The problem is we have hundreds of these things that we don't have the ability to maintain with one person in that group already overwhelmed already. So the existing ones you don't have anything for and it's trying to we have like neighborhoods that have somewhat similar
information and they're not doing it. So it's not picking you up. No, no, no. And I get it and I I can't speak for the ones that have been previously approved, but to offer the commission something that's more concrete going forward that the commission could implement in as
part of the commission special conditions as our newer newer conditions. Yeah. that it's just trying to understand that yes, you do have a existent problem that's hard to fix, but at least you could prevent future
issues implementing something of that nature. Do we put a perpetual change in there or something where somebody holds for the first 5 years or something? I don't know. To do you ever done anything like that before, Brian?
No. I mean, I think we should talk to town council to see about uh what we have. I can't think of where we esc and and again, yeah, it's not this project. It's it's now this one is minimal, but there are others. Yeah. And and so it's just something we should
think figure out how to do and do going forward forever. This gets us more than we currently have. Yeah. So, it's a step. All right. Uh no other questions. I think the board just had a question on the screen. So like to make a motion to
close the hearing. I'll make that motion. I'll second it. All in favor? I mean I I I'm I'm fine with the the project overall um with the on andm manual and
um right before the be I think that we've done this before. I'm still not sold on it, but this is a small matter for this particular project. This one we can actually see from the road. Sometimes we have to say it's
allowing us access as part of that that deed. Yeah. All right. Would someone like to make a motion to approve the project on zero Benny Spring Road with a standard order of conditions with the onm um and the registry of deeds? um just to kind of
mark that responsibility as an annual as an annual review. Y I'll make that motion. Like second. All in favor? I thank you. Thank you guys. We'll get that over to out to you and
signed and yeah and I'll get him the PDF as well. Yeah. Going to keep moving forward. New England Air New England Power A1 B2 transmission line is ask for continuence to June 9th and someone can make a motion to approve the request for continuous. I'll make that motion.
Someone to second that motion. Second. All in favor? I 170 Mil Street. You said there back up again out there. Justin, you went off too. Why? Um obviously we have had a lot of rain
the last week, week and a half. Um so there is a lot of water still circulating for our water bodies. Um there's a pretty strong flow going through both. It needs to be it's it's it's the boards are in but everything
that's come down there is making it like a dam again. Shouldn't the dam should be taken apart taking them out. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna again reach out to damn safety and ask for another update. Yeah. I can't more times and it's at this point where
so I'd like to motion make a motion to continue 170 Mil Street to June 9th. I'll make that motion. So it's a second. A second. All in favor? I. Next on do business is 549 West Broadway. the fire and subsequent runoff towards areas of
jurisdiction. You have an update on that? Uh yeah, small one. Uh so I did get in contact with both DP and retained LSP for um for the situation at 549 West Broadway.
Um, after talking with DP, it seems as though the majority of the work that was necessary around our jurisdiction was already done and very least impactful because they took the vacuum truck and sucked out the majority of everything.
as to what remains there both on the incident site and jurisdiction. There's no motion to go to an emergency certification at this time. Um, I did notify both the EP and the LSP
that in the event that it is found that there is some sort of permitting or emergency action needed for any of the remediation work that the commission and the agent do stand by ready to exchange correspondence and follow
best practices in order to make sure that that happens. Um, but at this time that there's no further action required of the commission. I kind of feel like we haven't heard anything from anybody on this other than this small communication that we haven't got any type of documents, right? No
report of the clean up and how many gowns and what it was and the testing they've done. Can is that wasn't part of your pack. Yeah, I know. But I guess I guess I just wanted a synopsis of unless that's something you have that that's it. There's nothing further to do. Uh not this time. So
what's the next step? Nothing. Um I'm just they're going to be submitting a report before the D deadline. Um they'll be forwarding us a copy of the report once it's completed. When's it due? Um
should be within I think I think it's 60 days from the original accident. Okay. Yeah. So I'll I'll loop back around. Um All right. Thanks. Um, thank you. Just keep us posted on
that. Next is the nature trail update. I did I did get out there and send some pictures to you. There's some damage on the fence and there's some tire tracks that I think need to be resolved. The trash needs to be picked up. Um, kind of see like see what
vehicles like Yeah. So, if you could just kind of address that. And then the silk fence needs to be maintained till the grass catches. Right. And I know we've asked that the last meeting and nothing's happened. If anything, it's getting worse. And there's a lot of kind of ponding where it's kind of coming
across. So that needs to be I I did I did send the list of punch list items including um the silk fence repairs um to the engineers to communicate to the contractor to implement um I'm hoping
that they'll do it soon, but I will circle back um tomorrow to encourage them to do it with pace. Okay. And I was talking to Justin. Um wasn't there signage on it? Didn't you
ask for signage every 50 ft and he agreed to it? Yeah, it's the standard sign that's already next to the cemetery close to there where it says that it's a protected water. Yeah, it's it's the exact same sign. Well, we talked about
it before. Um, somebody said that was easy to do. We have chain link fence. Yeah, it's black. Yeah, it looks good. There's one spot that like I said that's damaged that needs to be rectified, but was it only supposed to be a chain link fence or wasn't there supposed to be
webbing on it? No chain link fence. Black is is there in the is just off the ground. So, a little Yeah, it needs that. Yeah. Yeah. And then, um I'd like a payment update
and um I'd like the commission or any one of the commission members um um sign off on final retaining release cuz I want to make sure that we're all happy with it before. We don't want another issue where it's paid out and we have nothing to put all back on.
We talked nice and people drive it down the road all the road railroad. Yeah, I know. We need a rock to put it in something they can be move out and put it in and out. But the bikers are the pedal bikers are going down there
too. Oh, that's fine. But you don't want people driving off of, you know, coming from pulling up to the power station taking a left. Is that what you're saying? No. I'm saying they're coming off the road
that goes to the middle municipal golf course. They're driving down the old railroad bed. Really? Yeah. Where again? Where is this? At the top. I'm sorry.
No. Where the railroad bat is still is being used by the white trail, right? Yeah. over by the they're driving in there. Can you show Justin where that is it? Is it where the intersection is on Park Street? Is that Yeah. Okay. No, the
other the other end of it. Yeah. Okay. Can you just look into that? Yeah. Thank you. Okay. You know, I know you don't want to put permanent blow it up. Yep. Good idea. I mean, I think you mentioned, but some of those like socks, whatever like buried.
Yeah. Yeah, I know. That's the one. Some of them cement cover. I mean, it's like you can't even see. Yeah, I saw that. I think that's one of the pictures I sent you last week. Yeah. A week before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like almost gone. Yeah. That's I sent him some sand cuz
it's What's happening is it's the way it's really soft, too. So, it's just kind of Yeah, that's Yeah. and the way the water the the water was running down that it was kind of cascading over that way. So, it wasn't really going through the pipe. So, they did fix that when
they put the B the top wood over. So, they kind of correct it sometime, too. But, there's still one area it's got a little bit of an issue. So, just follow up. And if you could kind of give us email us that punch list that you sent over to u time bond or who is it? Yeah.
Yeah, it was time bond. Yeah. You want to be able to maintain that punch list probably I can hog and work. Thanks. Anybody have anything else with the nature trail continue to leave it open though? No. All right. Next is alien ward uh and
FWP realy partnered LLC preliminary permitting discussion proposed substation off of Pearl Street gardener mass. It's map W3214-8, W32-1-14, and W37-21-1. You can state your name for
the record, too, please. My name is Anthony Ward. Also here, thank you for your time tonight, chairman, commissioners. We're here before you try to get some preliminary feedback from this commission. We
have where preliminary stages on a possible subdivision for properties that um here on the right side of the plan we have Pearl Street and up here top left is Matthew Street. There's two existing properties kind of separated by an old
road up in here and then continues here. So we're looking at doing is connecting the properties together and having a residential subdivision going through there. And so what we've highlighted here in this planning similar to the PDF that we had sent in highlighted in green
are the wetland resource areas and then the various blocker zones that you guys have for your bylaws. The red is the non-disturbance zone. The orange is the no build zone and then the purple is the 100t blocker zone. Um, let me just turn
a little bit too slowly here. So, two areas of interest. One, the biggest one, we have a couple wetland crossings that we foresee would need to happen in order to connect these together. Coming in off of Pearl Street. So, in in kind of the dark here is is
what the potential subdivision road would be to bring us from from one side to the other. So, coming in off of off of Pearl Street, there's wetlands in the front there. So, what we're going to doing is trying to come as far away from wetlands as we can up along the side of the property line. Have a little bit of
wetland filling in this corner down in here. And then we get into the high dry part of the property. Some loop roads in there. And then there's another larger wetland system kind of in the center of the potential project. So, this is where
we would have a crossing for the roadway to go through there. and you get back into kind of the high and dry portion of the other part of the project connecting back out onto Matthew Street. And so that's kind of the
general sense. We've we've been to development review uh board of the city. I'll try and facilitate some comments from all department heads. I want to obviously come to meet with you folks to see if if this is something that is entertainable
um from the commission with the with the land crossing crossings. Um this one as you can see a decent decent crossing would probably have to have retaining walls to try and minimize the amount of filling. Absolutely. For that it's
really the roadway that would be the impact. all the the houses and and lots we try and get out of the buffer zone. But those are details that we would end up working out with you once we have a real project before you. But this being a big part of it, we wanted to try and
get some input to see if this is even something that um you could see entertaining as a possible project. There any knee-jerk questions or anything? I have a knee-jerk question. Um I'm just curious. I don't know enough about zoning and roads. You
can't come off of 140. Oh god. This one down lower. The main road. The main road. No. No. That's no access. State road. State roads. Yeah. You
can't I got Yeah. What's the benefit to connecting these two? Yeah. So, um, so basically we have, you know, pling board subdivision requirements. You have a maximum length of dead end roads. So it becomes from a safety standpoint. Um
what is the maximum length of a dead end road? 900. 900 ft. So you know might get us here and and the problem we have on this side is it's probably close to 900 ft just to get to the upland part of the
project. So um for those of that's the the hurdles there. Not to say that like with any regulation that you can't ask for waiverss, you know, from that. So, you know, if that's something the commission would feel really strongly, geez, we really don't don't want to have
a connection through there for what it impacts. That would be a followup discussion, you know, from a planning standpoint. So, just could you could we live with a long culdeac? Um I don't think if I believe there are otherally sorry consider that you have get rid of
all this and have this kind of go like that. Yes we don't know this but it depends on who you ask. So you essentially you can look at a couple different ways like take this for example if you were to cut the road up here and you have kind of a big long
lollipop. Um, you know, some would say, well, this is still a dead end because you only have one access in. We've had, you know, it's a lot of emergency folks that'll say, "What if what if something happens at this entrance here? There's an accident or something blocking the
road and now they can't get in to up here." So, you how are they going to get that access? What does, you know, then it gets back to some of the rural firefighting standards where hydrants need to be 500 feet apart. You know, it's those kinds of things. is that access. So yes, I think so. Sometimes
we'd argue that maybe on this one, like if we started here, that maybe this this might be the dead end length, but someone could very easily say, well, no, this is your your true dead end length because if something happens here, we need to get to that point. That's how far away we
But it's not to say that, you know, various, you know, boards over the years haven't granted uh waiverss on on road road length. I'm not sure how how the pler board would entertain, you know, a length here, but um but that to try and
meet those standards without having to ask for a waiver from the subdivision control law, we looked at looking for a connection through. Also on top of that, um some more design specifics is utilities. There's there's water and sewer available on Pearl Street, but not
on this section of Matthew Street. And so that would be another uh design challenge where more than likely we'd probably try and have water and sewer connect through over to Pearl Street. So in that sense we we'd want to try and
cross the wetlands as well. Now let's say that you absolutely would never ever allow a crossing. I don't know if you have or not um in years past for roadway. Um the discussion would be could we at least have the utilities go
through there as a possible option. But yeah really on Matthew Street where where how how far down Matthew Street with the is is sold from what I recall it's probably close to where Mount Wus Community College is
down there. I also heard like a veterans area up there. I don't know if that's a bit further down the street but that was what DBW had mentioned during the uh Okay. And for water too, um, getting back to kind of the the connection part, ideally, um, most DPWs and water
engineers like to have looped water mains. You don't like to have dead end mains. They become stagnant, dirty, and the water quality could be poor. So, um, even if we had water here, ideally, it'd be nice to tie the water
through as part of the project. Anthony, how come you don't give us colored maps like that? cuz this much easier to follow. It just I mean people do that a lot and then I'm like well it doesn't help us any to help you guys. I mean it's nice for you but when we're trying to research this before the meeting you
can't see anything on there. I know you have some some lines here but with this top hole it's not easy to see. Yeah. Apologize for I know. I mean it's just Yeah. No, it's a great point. We can we can always color platters. I could print these all out in color. Yeah.
Oh match this. Yeah. This is much more dramatic than this. Sure. Much more helpful to Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you could do that for when you come the next time. Yeah. Um and then explain to us in the commission when you cross over a
wetland, what would the plan be? So for for in this section, what was the big one? This is really the biggest one. So to keep the filling down to a minimum, well, I guess you can picture it. The road would need to be above the wetland elevation. Otherwise, the road would fail. So you need to be 3 4 feet or more
above that well elevation that's there. And then if you could go to a 3 to one slope, you start sloping that off. Um you could be 15 to 20 ft out from the edge of the roadway on each side. That's going to take up a much larger area. So
to minimize wetland impacts, it' be more cost of the project. We probably look at retaining walls along. You've probably seen it a lot on on various roads as you as you're crossing culverts and wetlands. You have your roadway, sidewalk, grass, guard rail, retaining
wall down to the wetland. So to minimize that, we try and keep the work tight to the right of way, which is about 50 ft wide. And then to to maintain hydraulic connections, probably have a series of culverts underneath underneath the road
to make sure um you know water can could pass freely back and forth as it as it would now. Then would you replicate anything for the wetlands? Absolutely 100. I mean where would that go on this such a such a tight site? Yeah. I mean, so there were some some areas, you know, there
was some low areas where we just looked at that. Some low areas over in here that we could kind of open this up. It's kind of well suited for that. Just some minor grading to to do that. But but yes, absolutely. We'd have to at a minimum one to one, but you
know, we always like to try and go two to one if we can. Um, you know, it's a like everyone appreciates that or we can create more wetlands than we than we lose. Um, but that would definitely be something we would absolutely have to have to do um to replicate that. Now,
would the city adopt these streets or would they be private? Ideally, I think that the intent would be to be a city-owned street. Have you gone before DPW or anything else on that? Just small communication back and forth. Yeah, mainly just from the uh review board. They spoke up during that as well about
like maintaining um the drainage system and stuff of that nature as well. They expressed the issues with that too. So, And what about storm water on here? How would that be handled? Yep. So I mean it's going to be you have to meet the storm management standards 100%. So there's no redevelopment. So there's no
maximum extent practical. It's 100%. So you're going to have to meet your pre and post rates of runoff, your your recharge, your water quality, and all of that. Um so you're probably going to have a series of um you know open detention basins or retention basins in
the traation you know um series of catch basins the manhole configuration something like that where I would suggest to go and then you got some properties that are literally in the no build zone right so the properties are I mean the the um buildings we have out
but obviously the road because it's a wetland crossing absolutely you We're going to have to go through to get that cross out there. You don't you don't have you have to do that as well. You have these lots now. Yeah. We could make the you could these could be made into
smaller lots and have more open space residential design concept going on. Yeah. Sure. we're seeing how these so these are you know so I don't I don't quite know how many acres but I mean I think it's you know sure this could go through a number of
iterations um you know to to work in in more harmony with some of the other areas but and we could we could spend a lot of time tweaking but if if if this is a is an absolute no no or wasting our time, you know,
filling in some details here. So, that's why we wanted to to to bring and be right up front. We have two two wetland crossings here. Um, you know, because that's something that can be entertained. We have a project in town. Um, it's uh
down on Brookside Drive, right? And there's two of them involved with it and they're wildlife crossings underneath the road. That should be done there. There I there are wildlife crossings that we said just
like a bridge right out there. I mean that would okay I mean I can I can see you know you're crossing in the middle of you know in the middle of the woods right so you could have you could almost treat this um like your stream crossing standards that are
required where you have a required 6ft clear span to allow you know the large wildlife to to go through there. So yeah, so what that does that just brings us up further above the bottom, but um yeah, you can do like a a bottomless cover, bottomless arch cover, something
like that or box cover to get that before. Go ahead. We've talked about those in great detail. Go ahead. Real briefly, what about the more minor or not minor but less intrusive one down here in that
southeastern corner? Yeah. So that one is is is so much of a crossing as you know a little bit of a of a filling. It's the finger kind of comes up and we're so our our property line is right here. Yeah.
So we're kind of pushing it as far over as we can to try and you know scoop by there. So same thing we can put some put a retaining wall to try and minimize that impact but there's really no way to fit a required road through there without some impact. Now I mean for
rough numbers maybe or five to 700 square ft of wetland filling on this one you know so it's probably less than 1,000 is our expectation you know for that this one you're above 10,000 11 12,000
possibly on on that crossing is that what lads connect under 140 um it's cut off right there I'm not sure if there are culvers there 140 comes through so it's is bisected by one. I'm not sure if there's a hydraulic
connection. There might be. Yeah, there might be. Well, we've done crossings obviously many times. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's not something that's never been done, I guess. No, the new middle school is a good one to drive through. I mean, huge
ones. Yeah. Massive big culverts. Huge wall. People don't get to see it. If you haven't, I drive by there all the time for track, but I haven't. take a ride. I will. That's a nice school, but I think I mean it's doable. And then some of the
standards that we look for there, you could probably kind of entertain on this. I mean, so that's a great comment. You know, wildlife passes. That's a great So now you're looking at this is not just a 24in pipe to make water go through. You're getting into an an arch
or a box, you know, something um with with some pipes and clear streets. Yep. Is there any been any natural heritage studies or anything at all? So, world side um of any you know priority habitat or estimated habitat? Okay. With this amount of filling, it brings in
additional permitting. You know, it's you definitely would have to do a 401 water quality certification through D probably top of my head probably triggers an Army Corps uh of engineers possible permit when you have this much problem coming as well. So it's a lot
more scrutiny that goes into this as as well. Yeah. I I have some serious applause on this, especially with that crossing. Um and you know, especially with with the um you know, they're one and a half acre
lots with three houses when when um there's there sort of again on zoning higher density in a smaller part of this bit. And I think that I I see what you're
saying, but that doesn't get rid of across. Well, good if you didn't develop the northwest that that part, right? If you just didn't if you just did one property, not the other. Yeah. Right. And and and I know this this requires some, you know, I'd be much more willing to accept you have water here. So So,
you know, if you were stick with that part and leave that northwest part undone that I understand water, right? I mean, so it's a it's these are separate properties currently, separate owners. So, we're looking to, you know, kind of tie them
together to make them both buildable in a sense. This one becomes um you could you could do it, but it's just a little more challenging have to have utilities come through there. So, ideally, could you double this up, double lane down at the bottom,
make it a boulevard? Yeah. instead of this crossing. That that's that's something that's a great comment. We've done that in other communities. Um that would be a followup discussion prior to commenting as a as a means to say just okay if we had literally two two lanes.
If one lane was was blocked, you have another lane. Would you be okay in having a long dead end road? So that's that's absolutely something that we could we could inquire. And it's less of an impact. And what's this circle right here? Is that just coincidence? The the
purple. No. Up a little more. You see it? Oh, the culdeac. I maybe I just That's a rental pool. Certified rental. And so that's what we've highlighted here. That's changed. So that's You've got some Yeah. Okay. That's different
than this one right here. That's what you got. You got We blew this one up for that 100 foot disturbance that you guys have. Your bylaws call for 100 foot non-disturbance around pools which protection act does not have. So this is
the 100 foot buffer around what the vernal pool was shown to give you an idea of you should probably call that out on a so yeah boulevard entrance is a great I just think it' be less of an impact here
yeah it's a great that's a great suggestion you have more filling here overall less overall less you know for for Yeah. Um assuming that you know fire department will be fine and planning board the the fallback tool is just going to be the utilities. Let's let's
say all that goes well and and we get some really good feedback for the fire department and planning board and we don't need to have a road here. How would you feel about like a temporary disturbance through the wetland? This wouldn't be a road, but it
would be putting in a water in that force main, you know, through the wetlands and then restore it. It's kind of a followup also the DPW if you're okay with having just buried pipe or they want an access road. I mean, an access road would be not to the
same level of of a road, but that would be the other thing too, but it would stop at the retire for a month. It wouldn't go across the Well, it depends. I mean definitely some municipalities drive over their utilities in case you ever need to to
get out there. I don't want to speak on behalf of what they may or may not acquire. I just want to know potential. And I'm open to hearing some other ideas
and options for us. And then if like I said, if you come before us, highlight all this stuff because it's hard to see on the drawing. Yeah. And maybe, you know, come before us again with with what you can do. meet with some other commissions, see what they have. Maybe
nothing to really say yes or no on, but I'm I mean, we've done crossings before, right? So, it's so it's it is something that you've done before. We don't like it, but we've done it. I don't know. Right. But I So, I think drive through the middle the middle. If I'm hearing correctly, though, it's like you said, if you reluctantly um allowed some
before, but before you would entertain this, you want to make sure that we've kind of vetted out some of the suggest suggestions that were mentioned tonight. I think one of them being trying to get rid of this crossing alto together and see if if other other um departments
would allow maybe two two public stacks with just a connection for utility something like that much more entertainable I'm sure from the commission yeah 900 ft how far how far is 900 ft in this thing as a
matter so on this one um you probably scale You can see it probably right up. Was that that what this is? Yeah. Yeah. So this circle here is 900 ft. So that would get us to here. Yeah. So basically it gets you property then you can't do
anything. Yeah. So you know and take that that same thing here you know a little bit better on that side cuz you know right off of the road you have you have the access to the upland portion but I got to the the struggles over here is is the utilities. Yeah. Well, and so
I don't I don't want the the onus for making this project work not be all upon us and all upon that crossing that big well which is a it's a 300 foot you know that's a big that's a big crossing um so you know yeah so I just want to make
clear that like this is not on us on a variance in the zoning to allow um that and there's the opportunity for denser housing same have maybe some neighbors in their houses and it's a much smaller footprint. Um not because
it's not not connecting those two at all. I think that's that's an ideal. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And and yeah, if you can't build that part, that's you know, you know, I don't want to say so be it, but that's maybe not. And this this has been
discussed a few times over the years. Have you done any research on the other proposals for that same law? No. No, not in my time. Do you remember? Yeah. There was a bankruptcy involved and they were all set to do it and there was a bankruptcy involved. You know, the housing market went to hell and
whatever. Yeah. And then the guy went bankrupt. He left town. Yeah. Did he go to Afo? No. I just I just, you know, wondering what you could learn from if you could find anything on that. Have you Have you walked that? Have you walked? I I have
not gone. No. It's amazing the wetlands out there. Yeah, for real. Yeah. Did you flag recently or you plan? You ever done anything? Just Yep, we did field located those. Okay. I mean, yeah, just looking at the map, you can see it's this is a looks like pretty active development
system even from even from the map. Yeah. And some some good upland areas, you know, it's just unfortunate that the where the wetlands are and try to try to get it all together. But yeah, I think great great input. Appreciate um
that. If you have anything else, feel free. But I think I I've got a general sense that Yep. You've done it. You want them? Nope. Um, but are there other Please vet out every other option possible before we come back and say,
you know, hey, can you can you do something like that? The next time you come back, bring your wetland scientist with you. Okay. Okay. Yeah, you're getting closer and closer. Yeah. When we actually get something, I mean, it'll you'll have more than just this. You'll have a very
large set of plans. Yeah, but before we went any any further, we wanted to to do just this, have this kind of round table discussion and and see I kind of kind of got what I expected. Um, but we wanted to give you the courtesy and kind of show you where we're at and where things
are going. I really appreciate the input. I I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you. I mean, do we want to have I mean, I think it probably makes sense um, you know, after you've had meetings with zoning and DW fire or whatever. Yeah. to
draw, you know, different even sort of sketches and just talk to us. That that makes sense as opposed to get their input and then just implement it and keep kind of sharing with Justin before we before we jump head first design come back follow discussing like hey this is
what we've learned. All right. Thank you very much. Really appreciate your time today. Thank you. Thank you. Next on new business to Lithuanian Outing Association preliminary permitting discussion for proposed beach nourishment projects. This is actually
at 23 Airport Road. Is anybody here from Roinian Club? No. So, um they did come before us. If you guys remember this same one. Yeah. back in
2021. They dumped a lot of sand out there and uh sweeping. No, it was caught bought off of a pit. Yeah, one of them. Yeah. But we did get them tested and all that stuff. So, Justin's done some research on beach nourishment. You can
kind of give us an discussion with the wing club. After a little bit of phone tag with the with the wing club, I scheduled a quick impromptu site visit in order to go out there and kind of observe where
they wanted to um bring in some um sediment fill in order to replenish or nourish their nourish their beach. Um, from what I understand, they want to bring about 3 to six yards worth of
material in to replenish certain areas where there seems to have been a little bit of corrosion. Um and um after conversations with D um because it's adding sediment to a
beach which is even though we're not on the eastern seabboard kind of thing they still exist you know around great ponds and some riverfronts. So um it under their guise it counts as a category 2 activity which is inducive of
um a notice of intent. Um, I understand. Well, from discussions with the winning club, I believe they were supposed to also be here tonight to kind of seek preliminary guidance um for going into
the permitting process. Um, especially because, you know, notices of intent, you know, they are, you know, kind of the commission's bread and butter with, you know, having them under a purview. But we do also understand that, you know, they're not everybody's cup of tea or bread and butter. So, it's good to
kind of help prepare those that might not be used to the process. Um, do you mind if I excuse myself for a minute to see if there's any Yeah, please go for it. So, I guess those of you that are new to the commission, this happened before. They dumped a bunch of soil on layer of sand and somebody on the pond
called us and said, "What's going on over there?" So, we did go out. they couldn't give us a bill laten type type of situation on the soils that were dropped the sands. So we they got it tested. We kind of work with them on it. Um my concern is that they're going to keep doing this every few years. That
was back in 2021. Yeah. Um and now we're, you know, four years later and they're back at it again. I think the problem might be up to that. They need to kind of that's kind of where they do some parking and stuff up there. So I think it's not just throwing some sand on there every so many years and calling
it a day. I think they need to rectify whether it's kind of washing and eroding. I know. So is this where they're parking? So So this is where they park. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't
look the same there, but So yeah, is it is that I mean is it sandy? Yep. Where they park? No, on the top it's kind of grally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the keys they had to show purity
of sand or whatever, right? Yeah. A lot of places do do that. They didn't do it last time. But yeah, they get that in advance. Yeah. Like ensure the purity cuz you can test these sands to make sure it's not like roads, whatever. Don't be a scientist.
No, no, no. Um I'm just concerned that they need to fix the erosion on up in the parking area first and then we can discuss how much soil or sands they want to bring in but it requires an NOI. So my my uh I didn't my point I I think we just said
that they need to follow the NOI process. Um and they shouldn't do anything before but they need to come before us and explain how they propose stopping that erosion up above because it's just cast when I was there. It comes down over the parking and goes to
the beach. So the last time we did it they had to have that soil tested was $4,000. So I think they got well and then now they're trying to do it the right way. Right. And I guess they're concerned about cost and everything. I can't
control what things cost. No. So if you could just kind of You have anything else you want to add? No. No communication. I I understand they lost some communications from them. Um so yeah, I'll I'll just reach out see if they can regroup and Yeah, regroup and
they can come before us, but we need it's going to be an NI process. Thanks. Yep. Uh, professional development. Do you have any updates there? Um, I aced my midterms for my first course for my for uh my certificate in
sustainable water management. Good job. And through that three course program and wish me luck. Great. Um, also going back on new business, um, we're having an issue with
um, Saunders Road. It's 122 Saunders Road. There's uh, ATV activities driving under um, kind of around this property on the front yard and up and down and potentially through the wetlands. I did
ask Justin take a ride by um, and uh, take a look and he pulled this map up. Um, I've been in contact with the people that made their report a couple houses down. I did witness it. I heard it. It's noxious. It's muddy. It's wet. It needs to be addressed. So, what we're going to
do is just send a communication to the property owner. We'll send them this map and explain to them the situation and then we'll notify the police and cease and assist if we need to. Sure. Nip it at the bud. Yeah. It's bad. It's And
where is that? What's What's in Saunders? 122 Saunders. All right. Anybody else have anything else? Anybody uh have any other new business that they want to bring up? No. Some like to make a motion to end tonight's hearing. I'll make a motion. I
want to second that motion. Second. All in favor? I opposed? No. Thank you. Have a good night, everybody. Part: 2
being 6:32 on Monday, May 12th, 2025. I'll hereby call the regular meeting of the Gardener School Committee to order and ask the clerk to please call the role. Right. Uh Mrs. Cormier present. Mrs. Hurst, present. Mr. Lefrenier is not here, absent. Mrs. Ford Leighton,
present. Mrs. Palavin, present. Mr. Schwarz. Mayor Nicholson present. Dr. Pelgro present. Norah Moore student rep is not present. All present. Thank you very much. Miss Hillman, please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for its one nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all very much. First item on the agenda is item B, open time for the
general public. Is there anyone here from the general public who wishes to be heard? Seeing none, move. Oh yes, sorry about that. And uh just Yep. Because to the microphone that way the TV can pick you up and then just state your name and that uh name for the record. Right. My
name is Jennifer Jendro and address is 48 Pearl Street. Um to the members of the school committee and superintendent and mayor, I just wanted to express my gratitude and how proud I am to be part of the district that will listen to
parents in this community that speaks up. I was one of the parents that requested the return of the welcome back event for the students to prepare prepare with returning back to school. the new school year as a chance to meet with teachers in new school environments
while the giving parents a fresh introduction to staff and programs offered in the district. I also I was also one of the parents that requested a crossing guard on Katherine Street for the students crossing for any of our
schools. I was one of the parents that asked for the announcement of the date for your next school committee meeting at the end of each meeting. So, Mayor Nicholson, thank you for stating that at the end of the closing comments. And lastly, I would also I was also one of
the parents that attended the interactive presentation on how to support our students attendance. So, the message I got from that was be present and be be powerful. So, in closing, go Wildcats. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, Miss Gendra. Is there anyone else in the general public who wishes to be heard? Yes, Jennifer. Seeing none this time, we'll move to item C. Recognitions by the superintendent for our special guest we have here this evening, Dr. Piggrino.
Yes. So, so school committee, um this is one of the more fun school community meetings we have where we invite the um the fourth grade student council um to come to come up. And I'm actually gonna actually ask um Miss um
Corello Koviello and Miss Tchinsky, come on up. They love speaking in front of the public. So, so one one of the things that um we like to recognize is excellence here in Gardner. And one of the things we know is our student council does a lot of
work throughout the year. um everything from tutoring other students um to um help um helping um teachers at the at some of the events. Do you want to talk about some of the things that they did this year? Sure. I'll talk about some of that. Let Cy talk to you. Um so at the beginning of the year, they had a food
drive for the gardener CAC. They helped collect the food. They organized the boxes. We brought it over with the help of the police department. We also did the same thing in November except we collected toys for benefit of the CAC. They brought them in. They got them all set up for um families to come and pick
them. And our most recent CAC collaboration was a hygiene drive that we did also with the CAC. So when we have those types of drives, the kids promote it. They help us um with all the box collections. They put the boxes in the teachers room. So that's a big um
part of their community outreach where they're able to understand what the CAC does. Julie man at the CAC gives us a nice tour, explains um the situations that families might be in that they might rely on that type of situation and it really opens the kids' eyes to um how
important services. So those are some of the outside things we did and some of the other things that we did internally in the school are the students helped at the parent teacher conferences in the fall. They were tour guides to help parents take the students around to
their classrooms. They did a grounds cleanup last week. Um they started catalog cat cataloging books in the library. That was new. Um they helped with lost and found. They do the positive pouches for
so for our PBIS program. They fill the little pouches that kids can purchase with their PBIS points. They also um are they go into classrooms younger than them. They're in fourth grade, so they go in anywhere between preK to three,
and they help with anything the teacher needs help with living in the classroom setting. So, they do that once a week. Um, we also have our lunch with the mayor coming up in a few weeks at Park. Yep. So, that's a annual thing that we do and we'll be doing that in a few weeks.
Why I'd like to invite you all here is I think it's really important. You remember Miss Gendron actually just said what our um attendance policy is. Did anybody know? Does anybody know what she said or what what our attendance thing is? Be
present. Be powerful, right? So you all are present and that's important. And that's 80% of life they say is just showing up. And you guys show up, but you do more and that's what starts to show who the
leaders are in our community. And so stepping up and doing a little more, giving back to the community is how you become a leader. So I'm really proud that you're here. I'm really proud that you're giving back. And did I also hear does Miss Mortell? Mhm. And it's her
birthday today. So she's celebrating she's celebrating 10th birthday. She's celebrating her 10th birthday with us. We can't think of anybody else better to be here. So thank you for coming on. With that, what what we'd like to do is
call you um call each of you up and um we're going to give you these um certificates to hold on to and then we'll take a picture right out here for our Facebook page. So, you want to call you
want. Oh, sorry. Maria There we go. Great job. Yeah, there you go. So, something you guys should get used to is when you come up to Actually, we're going to come over here. When you come up to receive a certificate, because you're probably going to be
getting a lot of awards in your life. When you come up to graph, when you come up to take the certificate, you take the certificate and you shake my hand with your right hand. You take the certificate with your left hand. Hold your left hand. You take the certificate with your left hands and you shake my hand with your right hand. All right?
So, get used to this because you're probably going to be doing a lot. Sometimes it'll even be up on stage. You're done. doing Legos. Chase man, Kyle Hansen. Morazzi. He did. Really?
Great. Charlie Mortell. So, the rest of our actors, do you want me to announce her names? Sure. So, we have Sorry, I didn't see you back there. Riley box. Excellent. All right. Uh, Dr. Pelgro,
why don't we take item F out of order so we can do both recesses at once? Perfect. Um, we'll take item F, student advisory board report. Miss Morris, congratulations to our April Wild Cup winners, Robert, and Alyssa
Manar. On April 2nd, we held our annual reality fair for all our juniors. Community members and organizations came together with the students around budgeting and the cost of living in the real world. It was a great experience for all our students. We had our culture
and community festival and also a talent show on April 9th. Both events were well attended and a fun way to build on our positive school culture. On April 11th, we held a panel of community members who worked in various business fields,
shared their experience with groups of our sophomores who are interested in learning about careers in business. Our annual health and wellness fair was held on April 16th. Over 20 community agencies set up information tables for
our students on mental and social and physical health and well-being. Also on April 16th, the annual GPS art exhibit was held to display all the amazing art artwork done by our students of all
grades. The final parent information meeting for our new accepted newly accepted students into the early college program was held on April 29th. Our new groups of students are ready to start with this amazing program for the 20 2025 to 2026 school year. We're
exceeding 100 students in the program. The grand opening and ribbon cutting for our new MVP program happened on April 30th. We're very excited to have 20 juniors and seniors participating in this year's program con joined with
Monty Techch Carpentry and Electrical Shops. Another 10 students are ready to go for next year to replace our graduating seniors. Sadly, the facility is beautiful and the experience is really positive for our student. We held our mandatory prom meeting for all
students who will be attending prom this year. The meeting is very important as we always want our students to have fun but be safe. And we had prom on May 9th. It was really it was really nice and
everything came together amazing and I really enjoyed it. I think a lot of the students also enjoyed it and yeah. Thank you. Are there any questions, comments from the committee before we move on with some stuff? No. Thank you to our fourth grade students who are
here. Uh Massachusetts has a state law that says that we're required to have a student on the school committee. Uh so Miss Morris is a senior at Garden High School who's going to be graduating in a couple of weeks. Um uh so when you get to be at Garden High one day, maybe this
is something you could do uh as a different type of thing. So that's one of the reasons why we wanted to uh make sure you could see uh student uh representatives talk here at a meeting. But Dr. Pellegrino, why don't you take over for Yes. the next part. We were thrilled to have Norah with us on um
this year. Unfortunately, she has to leave us for next year, but we wanted to give you this as a token. One more thing. Excuse me. Excuse me. you get to keep a moment to uh the committee will be in a brief recess and we'll ask all
our fourth graders and Miss Morris to meet us out in the hallway. Thank you. Committee will come back to order at 6:50 p.m. and we'll move on to item D in the agenda, the consent agenda. This is included in your packet for review. Is there a motion on the floor? So moved.
Second. Motion made by Attorney Pal, second by Mr. Schwarz to approve the consent agenda as presented. Any discussion on the motion? Hearing none, all in favor say I. I. Oppose. Nay. Motion carries. Item E, subcommittee reports. Beginning with the facilities
subcommittee, Mr. Schwarz, the facilities committee met on May 1st and uh there's a sunundry number of projects for the district. There are 10 projects for the high school and the
biggest ones are the electric service upgrades relative to the recent HVAC upgrades that are completed. But the next thing is to provide the power to support the comfortableness of
HVAC. That project will be completed during the summer break. Landry auditorium is in phase three with the sound system and the electric service and excuse me the theatrical lighting replacement.
The estimated cost originally was 3/4 of a mill 3/4 of a million dollars. It's now down to be around $500,000. So if you notice if you've gone to a couple of concerts already in the play that yeah, the sound was the
theater was nice, but the sound is still a little off. So that'll be done during the summer break. and is a spring concept this Thursday evening. By the way, the kitchen hood exhaust is estimated to be around
50,000 and the entire exhaust stack must be replaced as the inspectors found a piece of wood that was stuck in between two sections and so the whole thing's got to come out and be replaced.
That too will be a summer break event. The following projects, a contractor has yet to be awarded a contract for the dishwasher and that also needs to be an exhaust and duck work needs to be done. It's amazing how
as years go by the rules change. cast iron p drain pipe in a nurse's office that continues to flood that has to be replaced. The locker room renovations which we've been discussing for a long
time. Toilet partition replacement, stair tread replacement, the replacement of a standby generator. If you looked at that generator compared to what you see on generators outside our newer schools, you would say, "How
can that even generate?" We got to remember that our new high school, as we refer to it, is over 50 years old and things get very tired and broken and worn
up. a middle school and that's 28 years old. Believe it or not, there were 10 projects on that list. We still have to replace the walk-off grill on the entry rate. That's that'll be done in a summer
summer break. Miscellaneous roof roof repairs on on hose hold because we received an MSBA reward for roof replacement. So that's on the schedule for 2026. A dishwasher replacement ready to
go. Waiting for the factory for the state start of production to make the dishwasher. The following projects require more testing, planning and scheduling, awarding of contracts and generator repairs. The fire sprinkler
system repairs. The nozzles need to be changed after a period of time. um underground fuel storage. The fuel is contaminated. So we need to decide, you know, we pump it out, do we replace the
tank, do we do we not do anything with it? And do we do above ground fuel storage and miscellaneous paving? If you've driven around the school, the driveway and around the school is in sad shape.
Elm Street School first floor installed security cameras. The schedule is to be determined. A boiler room replacement BMS plant controller and plant controller system yet to be determined
in the district. Gentech security and access system upgrades and reader replacement scheduled to be determined. Miscellaneous fence additions and repairs scheduled to be determined. There's a move of foot to
install solar panels on all the school buildings. A feasibility state of study needs to be completed and a contract awarded and are scheduled to be determined. That's all I have, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much, Mr. Schwarz.
Are there any questions on comments, concerns on the facilities subcommittee report? Moving on to the finance subcommittee report which I believe Mr. Schwarz is that also you I wasn't at the meeting so oh I'll do it
got to find it finance committee also met on May 1st um Mr. Clark provided an over overview of the resp expense report and highlighted various line items that continue to be in a negative and the
reasons why they are in a negative. As most of these lines are salaries available funds will be moved at the end of the school year to cover any shortfalls. It was noted that the
elevator at GSS ghs has been experienced several breakdowns. We are still in good shape physically and we approach the end of the fiscal year. Other questions were asked and asked. Again, GHS is over 50
years old. Things get tight. It's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. Any questions, comments, concerns of the committee members? Moving on to the policy subcommittee. Mrs. first. Um, we met on April 16th and tonight for your um, we have 11 for
first read. Do do you want me to like go through them seeing those all finished? Um, sure. We'll do that. Uh, again, congratulations, Miss Mars. Great job on your report. And moving on to item 3698
uh, for first reading. Here we go. Go ahead. You want to do them? Yeah, I can do them. All right, go ahead. We have ADDA background checks, BDDB, school committee officers, BEC, executive sessions, BEDA,
notification of school committee meetings. BEDB agenda, BEDF, voting method. BEDH, public comment in school uh at school committee meetings. BG, school committee
policy development. BGB policy adoption. BGC policy revision and review and BGE policy dissemination. Those were included in your packet of information for vote at our next school committee meeting. Any questions, comments, concerns from any of the committee
members on those items. We have three tonight for second read. Item 3699. This is we have BBAA, school committee member authority. BBB I think I Oh, BB AAA is the focus
one. Uh, school committee member authority. BBBA is school committee member qualifications. BDE subcommittees of the school committee. And so those were in the packet for second read. And uh we
recommend the acceptance of the above policies. And then do you want to include because it's the same item number the removal of BBBC? I wasn't sure if we have to do that separate. Oh, because it's for adoption. All right. So motion made by Mrs. Hurst. Is there a second? Second.
Motion made by Miss Hur, second by Mr. Schwarz to adopt policies BB AAA, BBBA and BDE. Okay. As presented. This is that discussion on that motion. Hearing none. All in favor say I. I post
nay. Motion carries. Mrs. Hurst. Uh then we have policy BBBC, school committee member resignation. And uh we recommend the acceptance of this policy for adoption. Motion made by Mrs. Hers. Is there a second? Second by Miss Ward to remove
policy BBBC as presented. Is there any discussion on excuse me to adopt to excuse me? That was very different. To adopt the uh policy as presented. Any discussion on that motion? Hearing none. All in favor say I. I. I. Oppose. Nay.
Motion carries. The policy is adopted. U. Thank you, Mrs. Har. Item number 37 0 program of studies. Dr. um this is um to to vote on the um update for graduation um in the the the
change as presented at the previous meeting. Yes. Move to accept. I'll second. Motion made by uh attorney second by Miss Hurst to accept the program of studies as presented. Is there any discussion on that motion? Hearing none. All in favor say I. I.
Oppose. Nay. Motion carries. Item 3701, the presentation by the college and career readiness coordinator. So just a couple quick updates. Melissa Payne, who is our college career
readiness coordinator, will be leaving that position at the end of this year. She will be the assistant principal at the high school. So, and we needed to replace Miss Payne. Um, we wanted somebody who was qualified and somebody who's been,
you know, working on this program for a while. And so the new college and career readiness coordinator will be Paula Baltra. So what's it? Oh, that's I mean it's Oh, this Yeah, it'll take a second to come up. Here we go. Um so hi, thank you. So
I just had a few um updates as we wrap up our recruitment season. Um and then I will um come back in June to do all the end of the year reports. Um as we get in final transcripts, I'll have a lot more details on our um credit attainment um you know associate degree percentages um
transferability and co postsecary data which is really the outcome data that we obviously use in um chart for this program. Um but we have had a very busy recruitment season. So we wanted to update you just where we're at with members and designations as we move into the fall semester for next year. Um so at this point we have wrapped up
recruitment and onboarding for both our uh Monty Techch programs, our MVP partnership um and for our early college academy. Um, we do expect some changes as we go through scheduling over the next few months and we do have weight list for both programs. So, um, you know, I'm sure when I come back, I hope
when Miss Bureau comes back to do, um, the fall data, you'll probably see some shifts in data. Um, but overall, it's a really successful um, recruitment uh, for this year. We had 80 applications for the Early College Academy. Um, we are still technically capped at 80 for the program and we are managing to get
away with 104 seats for next year. So, we've worked um diligently with the mount to make sure that we don't have to, you know, turn away any eligible student for this program. And we were really fortunate that we were able to to for the second year in a row go well over our capacity um cap that is set in ourou. Um so, right now we're at 104
students for next year um with the 45 returning current juniors and then our our new cohort coming in. Um for MVP, oh, let me back. I'm sorry. Um so for that group they've actually already onboarded through their mandatory parent information night and in June they'll be
going for their step up day where they will meet their college adviserss who the professors activate their accounts get their class schedules um and do all that. Um for the Monty Tech program we had 22 applications for 10 seats. Unfortunately we were hoping for 15. Desi did not approve our plumbing for
2025 which was supposed to be our third um pathway for that. Um it's not particularly a gardener um denial. They actually denied all 74 additions that came in after a certain date. Um, so we are continuing to work with them. It's a pretty low percentage at this point.
It's going to happen for the fall. Um, so the shop is ready. The equipment is in. It is still there. So we're just going to push the roll out for that for the 26 27 school year. Um, but disappointing for the students. Um, especially with 10 kids on the wait list. It would have been nice to get five more in. So um, at that point at
this point we have accepted 10 students into that program. 25 for electrical, five for carpentry, nine from Gardenner um high school, one from Gardner Academy, and um again we have about 10 11 on the wait list right now. So we we may see some movement in that, but that's a pretty set group. Um they are
actually going over there tomorrow for their accepted student day. Um we had their parent information night previously and then tomorrow they'll be on the line tech campus. They will get to tour the shop and they will get to meet their instructors for next year. Um so that'll be very exciting to go over there with them tomorrow. Um and then I
have a t um automotive and school links. Those are two really quick updates. Um automotive we got secured for next year again um through our partnership with Mount Wusa Community College. This was really successful. This will be the fourth fourth year that we're running it. Um this year we had five students do the full program uh both semesters of
this to get the first two classes of their automotive degree. All five of them will be metriculating into the automotive program at Mawusa next year. So those are really the kind of those outcomes that we'd like to see is that they enroll in something and then um you know continue on with that after they leave us. So we are very excited about the success there and we we did just
secure that for next year as well. Um and then as a schoolwide kind of college career update, we are really excited. We're investing next year in a program called School Links. Um this is a really nice program for all of our students. It'll expand our MYAP curriculum, which is something that Dusty is um asking all
of our all of our high schools to implement to really have comprehensive college and career readiness plans for our students. And this will allow students an interactive portal um and really track them and allow them to do their scheduling, their college applications, work-based learning, internships, um everything all in one platform. And it'll integrate their
entire MYAP curriculum that we built through the guidance department. So, we're really hoping this will provide students a really nice comprehensive 8th through 12th grade curriculum for them um and portfolio when they leave. Everything will be in one spot. So, we're really excited about that. We are actually already on boarding our juniors to get them ready for senior year. And
then the next two slides, I attached these in the school committee, but I just want to give you guys kind of a um chance to see where the data is at for our programs. So, for our early college data, um you'll see our incoming cohort. So, this is just that 80 application pool, those who were accepted. Um, we did have about 16 kind of either
withdrawals or weight list students this year. Some of them withdrew because once we started going through, you know, what they were looking for for outcomes, their degree, you know, they they decided that didn't make sense for them. So, we have about 16 kids who did not move forward. We were able to get the rest of them in. Um, so that that first one on the lefth
hand side really just shows the um applicant pool that was accepted and then the projected 2025 cohort. Um, we, you know, what I'm really excited to see is the increase of our ELLL student enrollment for next year. Um, and our, um, low income, you'll see our
low-inccome applicant pool went up this year. So, those were two of the areas that we've been really intentionally targeting with our our staff and our teachers. Um, and we we did see some increases in that. Um, and again, that projected data, you know, you'll probably see some shifts as we finalize our cohort. And then in the next one is
the um incoming class for the Monty Tech program. Um this continues to remain very high for both our IEPs and our um lowinccome data. And again that's one of the goals when we when we set this designation was to asssure the students who were not getting access um we saw
from our data um through initial M techch applications that they still had vocational programming with us. So we're really pleased to see that that we're still able to service those students. This was a This was a pure um lottery, correct? This was a pure lottery. I
collected them in the library and they wrote their own names on their lottery tickets with Bulger and I and they watched us pull it out and they were very uncomfortable and awkward having to stand here through this, but we wanted them to really see like you're putting your names in. They could see what time they got pulled out for their weight
list. So, it was a true lottery and the weight list was done based off of their order of their ticket poll. And what you can see is that it actually um students with disabilities had a 40% acceptance rate. Yes. Because it's a pure lottery.
Yeah. Um and then another another program highlight um in this so just when we talk about kind of these our student populations um the department of education one of the the data points that they're looking for with these programs and and we've talked to them a lot about this year um is that they're
looking for the next round which will be 2027 for us um of our program to have all of our participants be 65% believe it's 65% is the number they're going to settle on um some sort
of underrepresented population. So like you know, you know, any any of your underrepresented populations has to be 65% enrollment in our college and career programming. Um specifically through the early college designation and this has been a a large conversation with the state about how this could affect schools eligible for designation and
whatnot. Um, and it's not up here on the slides, but I did tentibly run that even though it does not apply to us till 2027, just to see like where would we fall so we know we can work on and we're actually at 60% um for next year's projected cohort, which was um much better than some of the other schools
that we're working with. So really um it really is aligning with the state goals of what we're supposed to be doing with these programs and the students who should be accessing it. Um so that was really nice to see that we're we're actually really close to that mark and we have a year before that even comes into play.
And also just to mention, you know, for the broader audience, but as well as the school committee, you know, one of the things I think the MVP program, we went to the grand opening, it was a great event. Um, but I think this really shows that when they want to expand seats for vocational schools, this is a great partnership. The students remain our
students. They play our sports, they stay in their community, and they take vocational programming at Monty Tech, which makes a lot of sense because then they're not duplicating our academic seats. if they were to to expand the program, if they create more vocational schools and have academic seats, well,
now our kids have to leave our our district and we already have seats. We already have the teachers. So, this makes a lot of sense in terms of expanding um uh seats in vocational programming where kids get to stay in gardener with their community. So, it's
a win-win with both schools. Absolutely. It takes away any type of competition. Um so, yeah. And now other schools are starting to come out and look at it. So, it's been nice. We've had a few other schools reach out few I think two different tech schools attended the open house to observe the program and so it's nice to see other schools in the state
um look at you know garden of Pittsburgh and Gansid and see what we're doing and hopefully try to replicate that. Any questions comments? Very good. Thank you. Thank you vice president. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations on points.
Moving on. Item number 3702, English language learners coordinator update. This was included in your packet for for information. Is there any questions, comments, concerns? Seeing none, item 3703, curriculum coordinator update. This is included in your packet information. Any
questions, comments, concerns? Thank you, Dr. Item 3704, grant administrators update. This is including your packet information. Is there any questions, comments, concerns? Item 3705, special education update. This was included in your packet for information. Any questions,
comments, concerns? Seeing none, moving to item H, communications. Dr. Kelly. So, I love nights like tonight. You know, recognizing those four um fourth grades is huge. Recognizing Nora um who's graduating very soon. I can't believe we have a May graduation. And
it's the only time in my 20 something years of working in um public schools that we've had a that I've had a May graduation. So that's that's pretty interesting. Um but things are starting to wind down, but we're actually still collecting a lot of data um you know to
to start planning because we're going to start ramping up our planning for next year. So we're already in that move. U we're already in that mood. um replacing um a few staff um some changes at at the administrative level that I'll be talk not at um the building level um that
I'll be talking about once things are finalized pretty soon. So really excited about the direction things are going and things are so far going on the still going in the right direction. So very happy. Thank you Dr. questions, comments, concerns anyone? If not moving on to item I final
comments of the school committee. Miss Lloyd, thank you so much. Um it is Maycember um which is just the longest month in schools. Um everything happens this month and um last week was teacher appreciation week and so just a big thank you to our gardener teachers for
all that they do. Um and extending that also to the staff members that support them and administration that supports them. Um it's busy rest of the month. I know we got elementary school concerts this week. We got the high school concert this week. Um we had the theme basket extravaganza on Saturday. I didn't get to go, but I heard it was
awesome as it usually is. Um I'm just looking at the there's so much happening. So just keep calm and carry on, folks. Um and that's all that I have. Miss um I I love when we have the
younger kids receiving, you know, recognition for what they're doing. And um you know it makes me feel hopeful that you know they're going to continue that on throughout the the rest of their um school years and in their life. And
um I did want to say thank you to Nora. I really appreciate that you were here for the meetings. I had the pleasure of hanging out with her and uh teaching her how to smoo with legislators. Um you know but um this and to have those young kids understand that
this is important that they to be a part of things and they can be a part of things and make a difference. Um it's also um mental health month. So that's my little plug for that. Check on people, make sure they're okay.
Um and that's about it for me. Thank you, Miss Har. Um it's so nice to see the fourth graders here. Um and all the stuff that they were able to accomplish this year, too. I think each year it feels like there's more and more that they're getting involved with. Um, and I think it's such a great program. And also,
thank you Nora for everything. And University of Michigan is where she's going to be attending. So, I think that's pretty big. She's um excited, right, for the what is the last day of school? Next Friday, the 23rd. 23rd. So, it's coming up quick, but
congratulations and thank you for everything this year. Thank you, Nora. Anything you'd like to say? Um, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone. Thank you to Miss Bulier for choosing me for this position. I'll forever be grateful. It's truly been one of the highlights of my school year. Um I moved
here when I was in the middle of sophomore year and it was a really hard time. I was really like scared and just but one thing I know is that ever since I moved here, it's just been nothing but good things happening to me. a great community and even though I'll be 11
hours away at college, I was have a great community to come back to and fall back on. So, I'm just really grateful is the word, even a little bit of an understatement for everyone here, my principal, my school, and really excited for the future. Thank you. I'm just going to point out that when I was in
that seat, the mayor told me I can always come back and I ended up in this seat. So, to just a couple years. Thank you. Congratulations, Mr. Schwarz. Thank you, Norah, for your service and congratulations. You're at the end of a
level of your education for life. So, thank you for that. I'm looking forward to both attending both graduations. That's all I have to say. Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. Mrs. Cormier, I'm going to echo what everybody else has said. I always enjoy those recognitions for the fourth graders and
seeing the future of what we have coming up the pipeline. Also, thank you to Nora for being here and being present and always willing to chat with all of us. I really appreciate that. You have a few few weeks left. Enjoy it. Slow down, take it in, be safe, but enjoy it. Um, I
was also happy to hear that um, Miss Payne is being moved up to another position. She's done incredible work with that college program and that Mrs. Balter is going to be able to enjoy that program as well. Now, I think that's a great move for the high school. Happy to hear that Mrs. Bter staying in the building. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Uh
just a couple things I'd like to say. Um where we do have our graduations before our next meeting. Um congratulations to all our students who are going to their various celebrations and ceremonies. Our juniors going to conferences and everything.
Um to the uh students from our junior class who are going to the boy state and girl state program over at Stonehill College on June 16th through 20th. Uh we have the Gardener Academy graduation newly this year on Friday, May 30th at 5:30 p.m. in Perry Auditorium here at
City Hall. Uh so that's a change this year. So make sure you uh don't go to Watkins Field. Um because it'll be in the wrong spot. And then again, our Garden High School graduation, our 150th commencement this year for Gardener High on Saturday, May 31st at 10 a.m. at
Watkins Field. Um just really proud of all our students all around and congratulations to everyone who's been on the concerts performing at the theme basket extravaganza, our students on the sports field and everything in between. Um it's been a great year and it's going to continue to be a great year until the end of the uh school year. Uh with that,
our next meeting is going to be on Monday, June 9th at 6:30 p.m. right here in the council chambers at Gartner City Hall. And with that, is there a motion to adjourn? So motion made by Jenny Bl, second by Miss Hurst. All in favor say I. Oppos. Motion carries. Thank you very much.