The time is 10:09. I will call the development review committee meeting to order. Um, first on the agenda, we have under new business conceptual site plan review for
827 Green Street applicant under Gamma. um the actual uh engineering team behind that, Marty Engineering for a proposed 74T by 100 foot structure for offices, meeting rooms, and barn area for residents to work with support animals.
I'll pass it on to the applicant to kind of introduce the um proposed development a little bit more in depth. Um go over and you know, provide some comments. So I think a lot of you know me or at least
seen me but Justin from Engineering. So again I think everyone's familiar where we're talking about but you have Green Street 140 and then the old farm where again
currently operate out of. So just uh let's just skip right to the site plan. So, forgive me. It's a little bit light here, but we have the driveway coming in from 140. Here's the edge of the racetrack here. Here's the existing
house. The barn. The barn. All we're looking to do is construct a new barn here. So, you guys can see 74 by 100. And we're proposing to pave the driveway
here. This is currently built as part of the cell tower development that's going on behind the cell towers back over here. So 7,400 ft² building 12 12 parking spaces,
13 parking spaces, two additional handicap spaces for a total of 15 spaces. We are proposing snow storage here along the edge of the pavement as well as an atgrade storm management area. And then along
the edge of the building here we are proposing a piece of diaphragm jerk edge. Just something that when the rain hits the roof it'll come off the roof. It'll hit into the stone and provide a little bit of storm water treatment.
This part will be on excuse me septic and well the septic has been designed I believe it's been submitted to board health for review we're just go back and forth on that but well we are currently
working with a third party consultant on size location things of that nature depend on the criteria that this building falls under will determine the size and the radius of the Well, so that is forthcoming. We did submit this plan
to plan board obviously for site review as well as conservation for a notice of intent. I know the agent's not here, but just to give you guys a little bit of a run through stormware basins within 100t buffer which is here. Then we have 60
foot no build and then the 30 no alteration. So we're doing grading in here for stomar BMP. We do have the building and part of the driveway parking within the 100 foot here, but the building is located outside the 60
structure. So that was submitted to stay. We're waiting for the P number. We'll go through that process with them. Stormware wise, like I said, we have Pstone diaphragm drip edge on the building to treat the rooftop runoff. We
are providing the storm water basin here to give some treatment to the driveway. This is mapped as an AD soil. So I know Wes spoke to Rob regarding storm water back and forth on how to present it. We are designing this to the maximum extent
practicable for the site. mitigating the peak pre-post as much as we can, but also providing some more treatment for the rooftop and driveway as well.
I think that is pretty much it. Um, I do have one second here. So, just so everyone can see, this is the architectural rendering for the barn. Pretty straightforward.
inside. Zoom in here. This is the contents of the building. So, we have an open area in the left hand side of the building that will be for the animals to get them in and out, help train them as well. And then we just have some storage, a workshop,
meeting area, group room area, and then just offices and bathrooms. So the whole intent of this barn is just to support the ongoing operations of GAMA at the site. There's nothing new that's being done here. It's just to give them
an additional space so they can grow their operation. With that, if anyone's got any questions, happy to answer. Are you adding any additional people on the property um on a daily basis?
Yeah, we would. So, so currently we have three clinicians who work there and the program serves young people ages 12 to 24 outpatient animal care therapy. Okay. Uh the idea here is we want to onboard more clinicians so we can serve more young people and the indoor space solves our biggest
problem. So right now all this work happens outside. So it's therapy with animals which really limits us when kids are going to school. It starts by 4:30 in the winter. Uh if they have sports they can't come at all. Um inclement weather we often have to cancel sessions. This gives us an opportunity to keep the the space, you
know, climate controlled and really create more opportunities for more people to take part because right now there's a wait list a mile long this program. You ask a young person, do you want to go therapy at your local clinic or do you want to do it on the farm? And the answer is the same every time. They all want to come to the farm.
So, are you serving more than 25 people per day? No, not a farm. Not far. This would likely expand as a whole. Okay. So, I'm going to look into the PWS. Yes. Public water supply. Yep. Thank you. I'm coming in this late. No, no. And that's why I said we do have
a third party consultant regarding that. So that's kind of where they'll come in and excuse me kind of give us that guidance on if it is a PWS then what do we need for the appropriate radius. The intent is that if I go back to the site
plan here that we do show this proposed water service connect well by others that be a third party consultant but the well would be set far enough away that it won't impact the radius of the operations.
Okay. In terms of concom, I'll speak to both kind of the planning side and the concom given that the agent isn't here. Um, you know, just when you hear back from D in terms of some of those slopes near near the wetlands area, it looks like they do
exceed um like 10% slope um in some portions. just verifying stabilization erosion control measures um from D once you hear back from them whether they're check dams waddles whatever yeah so typically we just store our basins excuse me you're allowed to have
a 3 to1 slope so that's okay so that's what they're for um but the back side of that basin would be seated Yep control down gradient would be your typical straw waddle sil fence yep
um for the operation management plan included in the storm water uh storm water management drains report um says I believe that you Daniel will be the responsible party for semiannual inspections uh following that um we'll
probably want to have those submissions sent over to DPW for at least the first two years um you know following completion of the construction but I'll leave that up to Rob's discretion in terms of the timeline of how long those submissions should be over DPW. Yeah, I think two years is a good starting point.
Yeah, depending on what they, you know, if there's issues, we keep looking at them, but um I think that's fine. And one other thing in terms of environmental um this is more of the planning side but
um you know even though this is a rural context so it's limited treatment I still think that um the part of zoning that deals with uh screening for parking areas will still be applied here. Um, so
some kind of native shrubs or trees along the edge of the new parking. Um, I would still recommend uh that for for screening that area. Is that included already? So, we did not show any on the layout
but and can't see the whole propert so I can't tell you how far but layman's terms how about house and the barn? So the parking so the existing bar being maintained y and the parking's shown here behind it.
So so it will be screened far enough off the road where it won't be right in your face. Fair enough. Okay, that's everything I have on the barn. What's the flooring on the
the large area and then the small room areas types of flooring? So, I don't know if you guys have discussed that with J. We're looking into base materials for the animal area. There's a couple options. There's there's natural materials. There's synthetic uh materials. We're talking
different it won't be as big as a typical indoor equestrian arena, but we're talking to a couple of companies that that build arenas to figure out what the most functional substance would be to put down there. And then the office area concrete. Yep.
Jeez. Yeah. A lot of mud in there and now carpets would be a bad idea. Vital mounts at every door. Would they be epoxy sealed? I don't know. Just like a Home Depot. When you walk in Home Depot, they just polish them, clean
them. Yeah. I'll just say, you know, you're at 7,400 square f feet, so you're approaching the Yep. sprinkler requirement. So, just, you know, be cautious of that. Um, and maybe the building commissioner can correct me if I'm wrong here, but
it's the exterior finish dimension of the building that the 7500 square ft, not foundation, and stuff like that. So, just be cautious. Yep. when you're approaching that and um no hazardous materials nothing
like that to be stored in there. So that criteria right isn't being there. I know that's another big one even if it's smaller depending on material storage. So all right I don't think there's any other comments. I I do have a just a
simple question. Um, do you have the need for a dumpster for this building? There's already a dumpster on site. Oh, yes. Okay. So, you just truck it over, whatever. Okay. We'll probably just add another tip for the day for the weekly. Gotcha. Y, are you adding any other manure storage
locations or are you using the same location? Not same. Now, so we have uh one compost bin and then anything excess we truck out. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. How many cubic feet is it? The storage. Yeah, the whole everything. Do you know
the building? No, I don't know. Cubic. Yeah, I wouldn't off the top of my head. No, we definitely get that answer. You got a roof height right here. Your eyes are here.
Yeah. Need a young intern to read these things. Font by 16, 118 and change, right? 100 by 74 74 16 foot. That's what
the architect shows for the high peak, right? Yeah. So, Oh, there you go. Yep. So, 16t high, 74 by 100.
Quick map. Power phone. [Music] Do you have any uh fire separation between the different uses? Is that required? I believe we did talk about that going
all the way to the deck. Yes. To separate Yeah. From office to space to And what's the fire rating? Yep. Should be probably two hours, right? Yeah. Standard. Yep. Should be 58. 58. I'm seeing a break room on the upper right corner.
Mhm. Can you tell me if you're planning on putting any cooking appliances in that room? Just checking. Thank you. Are you required to have ADA compliance here? Yeah, the building will be ADA. Building will be ADA. The the site is
flat, so it will be ADA outside for the parking as well. signs as well. Yeah. So, we do have a walkway. 5 foot walkway. 5 foot walkway ramp. So,
I don't It doesn't show them on this one, but yeah, I would Yeah, it's undetailed, but I think it' be up to you guys. The sides could be built and mounted in front of the parking. Yep. And booms. inside inside the rooms.
36 inch doorways like bathrooms. I'm talking about braille. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I'm not sure what else would be triggered here. I'm just saying should look into that. And assuming 521 CMR is also in
compliance and that you might have someone looking into that or creating some sort of report. Yes. So obviously this walk build process as well. So there'll be a full set of plans coming to you. So I see the parking and I want to make
sure that you have what you need for for anything that's compliant before we say yes to any plan review so you don't have to come back. Yep. So, so in regards to parking on the site, as
noted, this use isn't fully defined. There is already existing parking, at least to my knowledge. I know you guys are there daily. You don't have parking issue. So, we are again, we're providing 15
spaces, two of them to be handicapped. Mhm. during this review obviously their input as well should have sufficient pardoning for the operations. Yeah, there's five clinical offices and all care is one to one. So at most
you're talking about five clinicians provide one-on-one care to people who are typically dropped off by parents but there's now room for parents to hang out in their car. So when it's not defined you have to find the closest use and I need to see that. Okay. Yeah. It's per square footage in our
ordinance. Okay. So, for each use, you have to have this is my square footage and this is how many parking space in Yep. We can definitely expand on the parking table as part of the revised set. Oh, yeah. All comments. Okay. Awesome.
All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry. That's all right. Try it. [Music] I don't have any examples out or yeah,
I think Okay. Yeah. I don't need to see it, but [Applause] [Applause] This is the Walmart facility. [Music] [Applause] Second item on our agenda is the conceptual site plan review uh by
Walmart Real Estate Business Trust for by Bowler LLC at 677 Boulevard for proposed self-service fueling station with eight multi product dispensers. We'll pass it on to the applicant kind
of introduce the project. We can move on from there and provide comments. So, good good morning. My name is Connor Andis. I'm a senior design engineer with Bowler. We are the uh engineer and expert consultants for Walmart on on this project here. So, I'll start by
just introducing what's what's out on site today um before moving into what's being proposed. So, the ex existing site, it's 67 Tiffany Boulevard. It's the the Walmart. Um, however, the the subject site is
limited to an existing parking area to the southeast of the site. It's about 38,000 square ft give or take. Uh, and it's all paved parking. Um, surrounding that area, you have the Walmart to the west and then the parking area there,
Tiffany Boulevard to the east, and then wetlands to the north and south of the site. Um, on the site, it it is within the 30ft notice dirt buffer and the 100 foot wetland buffer. Uh, there are two existing curb cuts to
the Walmart property today. There's the main entrance right by the the fuel site and then a entrance further north on Tim Boulevard primarily used for deliveries um delivery vehicles. So what Walmart is looking to propose uh this is one of
their newer initiatives too is just to add add fuel stations to a lot of their their sites. Uh they're probably you've probably all been to to Walmart before. There's they just have a sea of parking. So, they're taking some of the parking areas that are um could be fit out to be
the fuel station similar to like you would see a Sam's Club or a Costco BJ's. Uh I think it's pretty typical um for those big box stores distribution in that aspect. So, just to get in more details on
what's being proposed, um there's what they call a kiosk building, similar to convenience store. It's 1,600 square ft. I forget the exact numbers, 1,618. And then a fuel canopy which is 4,800
foot canopy with eight multi-product dispensers which is about 16 fueling positions uh one on each side of the the NPDS. along with the the fueling um there are two 20,000galon
underground tanks being proposed and one 10,000galon underground tank to to the east to the right of your plan there. Uh on site we have seven parking spaces specific to to
the kiosk. Uh I think that meets the requirement for the one per 250 ft. uh this building is 1,600. So it calculates about to calculates out to just under seven. Uh and then for the overall site because it is one one total property
have that broken down on our on our overall plan just to reach out to you that I know a minimum of 483 parking spaces are required and as a result of this development there are still 511 proposed um within the Walmart property.
As far as ADA uh compliance goes, the the building will meet all the the latest building codes um mass building code and then so forth. Uh and then we have the one van accessible space and then a pedestrian connection to the the
Walmart sidewalk that then connects back to Tiffany Boulevard. We know there's no sidewalk on Simply Boulevard, but there's a sidewalk connection going there. There's a crosswalk on the other side. Uh all new lighting and landscaping are proposed. Uh that's that's being removed from the parking
area. We're replacing it. Uh and that's been done by an outside vendor that Walmart works with. Um you know, determining the appropriate lighting levels to meet safety and and other local requirements.
Um so mentioned the wetland disturbance uh or the no disturb buffer. So, a portion of the site along the north is within within that 30 foot notice dirt buffer. There is existing pavement within it
today um with with a guide rail. What we're looking to do is kind of maintain the limit of work within that existing guide rail. So, we're not going to close past that out on site. It's it's elevated and then it drops off a stone slope into the wetland detention area.
Um, I think it was designed to be a detention area for the overall Walmart site back in the day and it's just since grown to let area and has been delineated as such. Uh, so I note that because when we're with this proposal, we're looking to just match the
impervious area um under existing whereas some areas we may be encroaching it further but we're reducing it in others. Um and overall as a result of this development 1,00 uh it results in 1,345
ft increase of impervious area that's not within the buffer that's further south on the fuel site. Um where today it's mostly landscaping just encroaching that way just to help with the circulation on site. Uh with that I mentioned just replacing
landscaping. So, we're taking out for the impervious area, but we're replacing the landscaping along the front. Landscaping plan was submitted as part of this. Um, it big effort to match landscaping that's out there today, and it looks pretty pretty nice on both sides as main entrance. So, they're going to be replacing that and try to
match sort of the aesthetic that's out there today. Um, so that's that's proposal from site plan perspective. uh utilities all the utility this will be a electric only building other than
the the fuel stations of course and then all the utility connections will be tying back into the Walmart site to the existing utilities that are already in place. Um the one we have to work with the utility company on is the electric connection.
So, there's a utility utility pole on say I don't know 400 500 ft uh west of this location kind of behind the the Walmart building. Um there is a utility pole on Tiffany Boulevard just on the other side of the wetlands to the south.
Uh we we got to get in contact with utility company and see what they would prefer. We are hoping to keep it on Walmart's property even though it's a much longer run um for utility connection but it would keep us from going. to have to trench into Tiffany
Boulevard and bypass the the wells to the south. I think it would just be a better design to keep them all on the wall property, but we'll we'll talk with them to sort that out. Uh storm water. So, we'll be meeting all
the mass DP requirements for redevelopment um on the site. I mentioned there's an increase of about 1,300 ft of impervious area. We're proposing an underground infiltration basin. We're calling it infiltration. Um we haven't done soil testing out there
yet to confirm that the soils and infiltration rate there. So as such, we modeled it as detention just to make sure that we can match peak rates and runoff on the site. And then best case scenario, there is a a great infiltration rate. Um, we just wanted to make sure that we had a conservative
approach that we could fall back on and make a detention if needed because I know we are very close to the wetlands and usually that results in some more restrictive soils when it comes to infiltration. Uh, so with that should it be infiltration, we'll be able to provide
all the the recharge and water quality as if it were a new development. Um, but they can fall back on the fact that it is a redevelopment of the site. Um I think that's pretty high level of of what's being proposed. I I know
permitting on this site too. So we we submitted for preliminary self review. Um we also work with conservation commission to determine if this will be an RDA or an NOI for the the work within the 30oot member third buffer. Um,
and because the site is within the the comp 2 district, I don't believe motor vehicle filling stations are allowed use with that. So, we need a special building. And then after all those are are taken care of, we file for building permit and then the u
the storage license that's needed as well. Would that be through the fire department directly or? Um, so yeah. Have they done other has Walmart done other projects like this in Massachusetts? Uh, none none constructed. They're all
kind of in the same process. Some are further along than others, but other locations. I know there's one in Leicester, one there. Um, some Connecticut, but yeah, they're around. Yeah. So, I just I don't want to repeat
information that you guys already know, but yes. Massachusetts um requires if you're over 10,000 gallons of flable combustible liquid, you need a license from the city. Um which would be applied
for through the city clerk's office. Um and that would involve um you know appearance probably before the public safety committee of the city council. Um and it has to be approved by the the city council. Um,
you also need permitting from the fire department. So, you need license from the city and then permits for storage from the fire department for the storage of fuel on the site. Uh, is this it's the same piece of property as the Walmart building. It's all one property.
So, when you apply for licensing and permitting, you need the aggregate site total. So what that would include the fuel storage plus we have permits now for the Walmart building the retail area
for combustibles and probably flammables also permits in place. You want to make sure you're covering the total amount of both down the line. You don't want to you don't want to get your license for
30,000 exactly and then have another 3,000 in the store or whatever that number might be. Then then you're exceeding your license for the site total. So that's just something to be aware of. Um and um permitting for the station design
and layout itself also um in addition to being approved by the local um fire department. It also has to go to the the state department of fire services. Their fire protection engineers review and
approve it also. Okay. Um, is that typical of other like just fueling stations in general in Massachusetts? That's Yeah, because personally I haven't worked on many of these, but we have other resources in our office that they they're our fuel team. They really do only that stuff. So, so we have some
resources there as well. Yeah, that's very typical for Massachusetts. That same new filling station is it's going to go through the same the same process. I you know, other states I don't know what they do. So, um um that that's the the big items that
I'd have for that. Um and just um the small package you have here has ba a basic store layout. Um, and just uh in in Massachusetts, I'm looking I'm assuming the the top
part of the page is the front of the convenience store we call it. Correct. With dual doors, right in the middle. And then just to the left of that is that the clerk's the cash register spot. Uh, looking at the left
looking at it to the left. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just just to be aware that one of the things in Massachusetts, the clerk has to have a line of sight of all the fuel. Okay. Fueling positions, okay? Un unimpeded line of sight to all
fueling positions. You will also need to uh apply for a sign permit for all of the signs. So, I know the the building itself has one wall sign. It's the wall kind of first logo. Uh, and then the categories has the wall mark on kind of each each
side. So, I'm it's it's a separate permit for each side or is it everything under one? If they're connected, they can be the same. Okay. I know. And are both sign there are two sign options currently listed as option A and
option B and the site site signage plan. Are both of those being proposed or only one option? Only one option. What we're currently showing on our site plan is is option A. Um I know what's out there now just the P sign. It'll be similar to that. It
just adds prices. And that sign follows sizing. It's less than 60 ft um at 57.68. So or square feet 60 less than 60 square ft, sorry. So there's no issues
at least there in terms of sizing. Um may I noticing that there appears to be some shelving inside of this convenience store. Are they anticipating selling food in this location also? Um likely I don't have that information available. Um I'm assuming it's going to
just be like bag snacks and so if they're going to have um retail food sales, they'll need to do a food establishment plan review also for that particular building. Okay. And a food permit. Um I got to check and see if it falls under it's the same property, right? Yes.
As Yeah. So we need a site plan review on that from the health department. It's online. And then um it would probably fall under the the um primary permit that Walmart already holds for food. Okay. But I would have to sign off on and pre-insspect before they add food into the building.
Would that be taken care of during the the building permit process or is it So it's a health department process. Okay. So it's a little bit separate, but will that happen concurrently with that? Um, so typically the health department does their pre-opening inspection um, after all of the trades have signed off and the building commissioner has signed off
or in concurrence with so that I know everything that I'm signing off to allow the food in that's beyond the scope of my education has been addressed. In terms of conservation, similarly to the last proposed development, um we'll
recommend that the storm water inspections happen annually. Um I think that's already listed in that the I think it's an append I have listed appendix G in the storm water um yeah
review that those will happen annually and that those should also be submitted to begin to DVW for the first two years following um the site's opening and link that to the city engineer
we'll make that to the city engineer conditions. Yeah. Um but yeah, you've already said that the existing drainage discharge to the Northwest um you know warrants conservation commission review. Um so we'll leave it to them in terms of
filing whether it's an RDA or NOI um depending on the proximity and disturbance total disturbance area [Applause] and keeping in storm water. Um a couple questions are you treating the storm water standards as new development and
redevelopment? Um we we're treating it as redevelopment um for the maximum stand practical but we do still meet the new development requirements. Okay. Um that's fine. I mean that's semantics at that point then um I don't know if you're aware we have a storm
water ordinance. Um there's a storm water permit that will probably go through well either plan board or um conservation which I'll be reviewing board. So it probably makes more sense after review planning board. Um, you should take a look at that if you haven't already. Um, we have a a
regulation that goes with it that we adopted. You can get it all through the city website, I think through the engineering page. Um, but there is a requirement for 90% TSS removal and there I think it's a 60% phosphorous removal. Okay. Is that for new developments or redevelopments?
It applies to both. Okay. Um, and in this case, I don't know that the redevelopment argument actually would fly only because you are using the impervious area on the site. Typically, you can't use impervious for redevelopment. Um, but if you're meeting
the standards, now that's great. Um, I just want to touch on that, too. It's so I I mentioned it with the underground system is we're right now we're modeling it as detention calling it infiltration until we can
confirm what the infiltration rate is. Right. So in the infiltration will take care of all the the 60% phosphorus and nitrogen. Yep. TSS um as well with just the isolated rose and that shouldn't actually need to be detention.
Um, I don't know how we get to treat the phosphorus from the site unless you have one of those. I know they make like propri proprietary like water quality units that are specifically made for phosphorus. Yeah, you may have to do that. Yep. Um,
as far as the testing goes, you'll have that when you come in for definitive site approval. Uh, yeah. Okay. We can we can work that out to to be done before. Yeah. I I have I mean, you're close to wetlands. I have no well wetlands which were probably a detention facility but
um assuming you probably have high ground water um that may I don't know if you how you factored it in at this point but again this is preliminary so you put that out um yeah we've had some some borings done on the site that the geotech just mainly
for building foundation so we have some information on on where groundwater is um it's not it's not perfect because it's not in the exact And we looking at um the borings probably don't give you they
don't they're not looking at modeling more features. That's a hard word to say. Um so that's what I'll be looking for. Um you know um
and this is a random question. Are the rooftops metal? only because of if you are infiltration and they're metal, you have to then isolate them and get I believe get them out. You can infiltrate some metal roofs. Okay. Um it's been a long time since I've looked at that in the storm water
standards. Um but it is cuz typically when you're looking at infiltrating rooftop runoff, there's an exception for metal roofs. Uh so yeah, I knew that. Yeah, I knew that roof roof usually doesn't need to be treated. It can be excluded from water
quality. Yes, but the metal roofs and I've never actually had one, but it's in there. So, just be careful on that. I'm going to assume that these roofs aren't metal, but I'll confirm. Yep. That's why I asked. I assume they probably at least the canopy would probably be metal.
That's all I had at this point. I'm sure I'll have more once we get into cash permit that water permit that's through the play as well. Is that just another application? Honestly, I don't have an application for it at this point. But if you just in your application, if you can just
include a letter that you're requesting to water permit, that that's good enough. I mean, you're supplying everything we need for it anyway. Um, when you get to the So, it's just I include it in my review.
[Applause] I would say in terms of access and circulation, um I believe it was recommended by your third party of VIA in the traffic study that the driveway closest to boulevard should
be clearly marked um on the civil plans with right only sign markings of entrance exit only. Um I don't know whether or not those are sorry. Yeah,
we can we can change that to writing. I think I'm going to just skip that. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's my um and then just the pedestrian accommodations for sidewalks and ADA access uh from I think there is going to
be sidewalk access from the main Walmart um parking lot to the new store um and the sidewalks that are included to the um store the store on site itself the um
I forget what you would called it but um that yeah at the kiosk um that those should be detailed with detectable warnings um signage have warnings shown
um on the site further further west if you look at the overall plan it's not showing one got yeah and then yeah this sidewalk comes back to the main building as Would [Applause]
you have any reason, you think, to connect the parking directly across from it? I know there's no sidewalk over here, but I can almost see people pulling in and crossing. I don't know if it's worth looking at. Yeah, we can we'll bring it back to to Walmart and let them know that it's it's
a concern. I I I hear you. I tend to agree that something could be done. Um my only concern with that, too, is that this is like the the main drive aisle. Yeah. Yeah. So I yeah I wouldn't want to encourage people crossing there but I those parking spaces directly abudding
the new development. I could see like Rob said I could see people parking there and wanting to cross over. Um I I could see also not wanting to put anything there because it h having a crossoff there could encourage it to be aware that we are providing the the
required spaces specifically for the the convenience store kiosk building. Um, but yeah, I yeah, I I said I just don't know if there's a great way to prevent that. With landscaping, you could deter. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a great idea,
too. Let's see what our landscaping plan looks like there. Grass is it? I know. I know. The one across is just the grass. Maybe trees over there. Yeah, we're showing shrubs kind of in
this area right directly south of the building. The sidewalks are right against the curb, so it's not really going to deter. And then on the other side, it's it's mostly grass and trees. I can I think that's a great idea um to
So you're saying just add landscaping? Yeah, some higher and more dense a suggestion. Yeah, I think that's a great suggestion. Maybe if it's just at least if they can shrubs or something like a shrub hedro or if they can they will.
Yeah. Yeah. If you make it harder, they won't. [Applause] I saw in the application that you checked out that there is a race. plan. I'm not locating it. I haven't had a Do you see anything? Where is there going
to be a dumpster on the new section? It's going to be managed through where the current location is on the existing waste. Yeah, I was checked off. I'm just not finding it. Yeah, maybe maybe I was assuming that meant just storm like not
waste water. Waste water. Yeah. Sewers. So, we had our sewer shown. So, that's what it referred to. We do have a uh a trash enclosure on this one. Okay. Um and then that'll be managed by Walmart as well. Okay. And then circulation circulation wise,
everything the deliveries will still come in through this one and drive down and around into the site and come out and then trash will come in a different way. I know the the fuel trucks have to come in counter counterclockwise.
the buildings out on the passenger side this completion that's that's mod 62 so I'm confident that I will be yeah most of the time we do see that the access plan for tractor trailer on at
some plans there I couldn't tell you exactly Thank you. [Applause] I guess I have a couple questions just about the permitting process in general knowing that we'll need ZBA for the the use and special permit um and then
conservation as well and then tack on the the preliminary cycle review. So after preliminary cycle interview would I'm assuming it would be wise to then like continue the final one until we wrap up all the ComicCon and ZBA and
test bids and whatnot. I think that's probably smartest. Uh we can coordinate, you know, via email in terms of scheduling when would be best to have you guys down once to meet the met from
those other commissions before we move forward with with planning board. Okay. When you say move forward plan, would we still move forward with preliminary or should we move? So, we're going to I know we had talked about whether or not we would get this
development in for the 14th meeting. We're going to delay that till November um just to give the rest of the members of the of the board time to review. Um and we'll have I'm not sure we'll have an you'll be absent at that planning
board meeting and and Steve might be as well. So confirm whether or not we'll have a quorum to meet, but um yeah, we'll meet. We could still have this on the agenda um and continue it through planning board um and then
meet on preliminary um just to get that process started in planning board and then wait to move it to definitive site plan review until everything else is wrapped up. Exactly. Yep. So preliminary in November. Yep.
And we can still start those other ones, right? Exactly. Yeah. I don't have any other questions or not. You said you were going to be an all electric building
and you're going to you're going to connect the power from the street or from the large Walmart building. Um yeah, so all electric building we're proposing a padmounted transformer on
the fuel site and then that will connect. Right now, we're showing the connection back to a utility pole on the Walmart property. Um, that's that's where we're assume it's going to be connected to until once you kind of move forward with the new the new service request that you
have to go through with. I'm not sure the providers out here if it's source national grid. Great. Then you'll determine if if that's reasonable or if they want it up there, but we're we're planning for it to be connected on the Walmart.
Okay. Any thought of going solo? No, not that I know of. Okay. Just asking. Curious. That's all. Did Walmart already have sold roof?
No electric vehicle charging stations. None. None planned again. Yeah. Um, I know the building will meet all the latest building code. I know part of that is with the mass stretch building code. It's it's EV readiness. So, we'll
we'll provide conduits for future EV charging stations. I mean, the only other comment I have is would be, and Justin's not here, I don't know if um having, you know, underground fuel storage tanks within the buffer zone of the wetland is an issue or not.
I just um it just kind of yeah whe whether it's going to be an RDA or NOI is kind of up to them to make that determination. So once you're done, they'll do their review and then kind of Justin will reach out to Max D
in terms of getting their weigh in on this as well in terms of potential guidance towards what kind of permit that would be required, what kind of process would be required. Yeah, I think so you mentioned this when
we were on the phone. Um they you've seen this concept maybe like a couple months back in March I think around February. I think that one had the fuel on the other side on like the top of the plan. Yeah. Yeah. We we moved that out the plan. So cuz I think at that point we didn't have
the wetlands delineated. It was pretty pretty Yeah. So they'll be they'll be interested. I know the boards are on here in the drainage report um because I think that was that was a potential worry of the the movement of the groundwater given the proximity even
it's outside of of the wetlands area. Um so I haven't had a chance to look at the the information regarding the borings. Um whether or not yeah I mean I mean the tanks are probably double wall with alarms and all that. I just know the
comments that they're going to make at at the the Com meeting. Um, as far as Com, this must be a content just because of what they're doing and Yeah. Yep. Yep. I would suspect that might come up in licensing also.
The the potential environmental impact. What about encasing the fuel tanks? Well, there's there's very strict there's very strict requirements now for underground fueling tanks. So, I mean it's it's very strict. The mass DP is
overseas it and has very tight control, like you said, double wall and all alarms and everything else. So, um it'll be robust. Yeah, that's a good way to describe it. Much much more so than it was 50 or 60 years ago. So,
Any other comments? Great. I think you found a motion. With that, um, we have no other business. So, I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. So, move second.
I hear a motion here. Second. All in favor to adjourn the meeting say I. I. All post say nay. I hear no oppos. The meeting is journed. If you can your questions.