All right, everybody. Let's get started. Um, we're going to skip around the agenda a little bit. Try to be efficient for people in the audience. Um, let's go right down to certificate of compliance for 38 minutes of comments. Oh, anybody have any public comments? Thank you. Anybody have any public
comments for any new information? Mr. Chairman, yes. Alusa I just see along this less than two minutes here. Alan Russo 21 spring road. I'm also under a butter for sludge landfill with
my property at 500 road. Following my comments relative to the garden sludge landfill enforcement board since the June 23rd is your last meeting. Uh first of all again I want to thank you for keeping the enforcement order open and
continuing to monitor the situation. Uh mass D uh my question here is mass D provided a report relative to the March 6 erosion incident that resulted in sediment sludge discharge fall pipe to the wetlands
uh to the south pipe. uh if not what is the status of followup email and or letter from the commission of mass DP which I think you guys discussed at last meeting and bullet point number three uh
has DPW director Dan Arnold uh I left out a word there provided agent uh enlight uh with additional sludge inspection reports if so do the reports contain more explanatory notes Has the DPW divided
any report instructions or pass fail evaluation criteria? So the last two bullets are kind of questions for your discussion for later. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. All right. Thank you for the heads up on too many years of going around the other
way. Um request for certificate of compliance uh D160 0261 for 380 Leo Drive, which is lot 93. Justin, can I have an update to give us kind of the rundown on that?
Yep. Uh, so 3 Leo Drive um is part of a number of properties between Leo Drive um and Brookside Drive that are um part of pretty big outstanding orders of conditions. um when these were initially
put through um they put a lot of these larger developments as all-encompassing in single notices of intent. Um I know that you know after a time period we started
to redo the system where it's as per as per lot that would be within jurisdiction um in order to prevent you know people having to come out through the woodworks you know over the years once they finally do sell
their house you know in order to close out the project if the original developer or the HOA forgets to do so. Um, so 380 Leo Drive, as you can see, it's dead center, but it's hundreds of feet
in either direction out of jurisdiction. Um, so I would say that it easily qualifies for, you know, its compliance. I would say that because it's, you know, one of numerous lots, you
know, still undetermined as to how many are left over from the original notice of intent that still need closing out. I would say that if the commission sees it as acceptable to give compliance that we give it a partial compliance
specific to the lot. So compliance to release lot 93 or or 380 as the address is currently. So if we give the partial, does that prevent the homeowner from doing anything that they need to do or is it No, it releases the it releases Yeah, it
releases that specific lot from the orders of conditions and I don't because it's outside of jurisdiction. I don't think that there are any any per like you know ongoing conditions or
permanent conditions that would apply to this lot specifically. So we wouldn't have to we wouldn't have to add any of that either. Okay. Anybody have any questions or comments? No.
I'll make a make a motion to release it or whatever. Yeah. provide the strate compliance partial for 380 Leo Drive, lot 93. Would someone like to second that motion? I do. All in favor? Thank you. How long does it take after
we sign that? Um, so I'll be finishing up the draft and issuing it to either the owner or their representative um tomorrow. Okay. So, good. Thank you.
All right. Um, next is the uh um enforcement order on the sludge landfill. Justin, you have any other update? Um, I received um the current list of reports from the DPW
director. Um, but it was close to the end of the day, so I haven't had time to review them. I did send them to to the commission but understandably it's under under five hours so you know it wouldn't be enough time to review. So I suppose
we could discuss that next few days. I did look through some of them there's more detail on them. Did you see that too? Yes. And in the in the uh margins uh there are names of people and it's
has stuff to do. I'm assuming it's to-do lists and not that those people did whatever it was, right? Yeah, I think that impression. Um, in addition to the regular past fail stuff, there's extra stuff written on the on the extra directives written on the
right hand side that mentioned people's names. So, I'm assuming that's a to-do list. Yeah, some of them did. And if you looked at some of them had initials, I I assume the initials. Did you see that? So, that would mean it's done. That's my god. Okay. Yeah. And then it said a couple of them
said the swelles need to be cut. And then if you look two more down, it says swelles were cut. Yeah, I assume that's but I mean the whole that report just needs to be done over that. Someone did that in a typewriter 20 years ago and it definitely needs some more detail to it. And then we did
get some more testing reports um that we still need to read through. That's it's a big study and it's been around a little while I guess. What was the date on it? I don't remember but we can get into the details in the next upcoming meeting. We I think we have 2023 through 2025 including retesting. Yeah. So,
so we got to just kind of go over that. So, if I could ask everybody in the commission to look over all those reports and then uh we can have a summary discussion and our upcoming meeting. What's the date for the next meeting? Uh next meeting should be one second should be July 28th.
And we should note that those reports that we got today went back to March. Yeah. March, March, April, May, Juneish, middle of Juneish and actually go right up to last this Monday the 14th ones we just got. Oh, okay. Yeah.
All right. Some like to make a motion to continue the enforcement order on the sludge landfill with the um discussion I just mentioned and kind of read through all those for next meeting so we can kind of discuss in a little bit further detail. I'll make that motion. Someone to second
that motion. Second. All in favor? Thank you. Actually, you know what? Uh Justin, maybe we could um just jump on a call today or or one of the days in the afternoon like we normally do. We can just kind of go over them together. All right. Uh next to the
enforcement order is 36 Nicole Terrace. Does anybody here represent Nicole Terrace? No. Any other update yet? I know we're on the docket I think for next week or next meeting, right? The 28th for Yeah. I I think I think the next two actually.
Yeah. as we're monitoring progress, I think it's up to the commission's discretion as to how, you know, how long we want to continue the discussion on that. Um, so between now and the 28th, can you do a driveby of both just drive by? I I did do a quick site visit um this
morning to 36 Terrace. Um, and you know, there are still, you know, still a little bit of debris over there, a little bit in the upland and a little bit closer to the wetlands. Um but things are while a lot of the vegetation is still in growing season and you know
reestablishing itself I don't think it would I I think there should be caution as to whether or not anything gets removed. Obviously, there's a portion of some of the logs that will remain as you know, you know, and kind of be broken down
naturally to avoid some of the to to avoid some of the potential damage. But, um, but yeah, I I'd say for the most part not to touch things until, you know, fall when things are kind of starting to die off. Okay.
So, so we're going to keep it open and we'll talk about it one more time and then we'll push it out until maybe like you said fall. So, we'll continue it to the 28th just make sure nothing else changes and we'll push it out and continue it in the fall. Would someone like to make a motion to
continue 36 Nicole Terrace till 7:28? I'll make that motion. Someone like to second that motion. I will. All in favor? I then 282 Brookside Drive. Anybody here represent 282 Brookside Drive? How are you? You got Did you get a chance to drive by there at all?
Uh, not today. Um, I'll probably ask if I can come by within the next couple weeks to come to see the progress as to, you know, the How's it look? I don't know. The plants are awful small.
Well, yeah. They had trouble getting it, too. Yeah. You know. Yeah. How's it look? Is it growing good over there? They the little ones grow and the bigger one I did like seven. I sent the video to Justin. Yeah. The video last minute. Yeah.
They start to make a new like new branch and new leaves. Yeah. First they get dry the leaves and now start getting back again and they start to make a new branches and better leaves coming up. Okay. So we'll do the same thing. We'll do the 28 take a drive by again then
we'll push it to the fall. Yeah. Uh Aan, do you mind if I call you later this week to see if we can schedule late? No problem, sir. All right. Awesome. I appreciate that. So, I would like to make a motion to make you move to the 28th. Yeah. To the 28th. So, to second that motion? Second.
All in favor? I. Thank you. Thank you. 170 Mil Street. I'm going to reach out like we talked about one more time again and ask for a better update and um then I'm going to kind of receive some counsel on where we go with it from there. Um because it's been on there a
year um like we discussed originally and we continue to get no response or um no update from Mass Dam Safety. So we're going to try to reach out through other avenues just to see where else we can do. Yeah. And then um if not, we're going to
you know request council to kind of step in and get involved. Now I think I think it's over. Oh, I I mean the last response from mass safety is just no update at this time at this uh must be nice. Um so I'd like to make a
continuation uh to approve uh sorry make a motion to approve the continuence to July. Motion to approve the continuence. So to second that motion. Second. All in favor? Hi. Nature trail update. Um, have anybody
been out there to walk it? Yeah. Or drive it? Or drive it? Yeah. So, your concern is at the beginning with because of the grades and they repaved it. Yeah. You could you can just drive on it. I mean, I I drove up to it 50 ft, but you know, you could drive the whole way.
They need to have something one of those poles. Yeah. Yeah. Like they have down at the pool. No, they have barriers down at the at the entrance to the one right by the pool. Yeah. That you can't that you can't you can't turn on. I don't think it was in the original plan. I don't remember it being
talked about in the original plan, but we do kind of need it and maybe at the other end too because I think you know the way the National Grid substation is, you can just drive right there too. So
I don't I don't think it was original. And then of course we always have the question of whether the signs have been installed. Water they should be along the
Okay. Maybe we didn't ask for any. Well, I mean it's pretty standard, but Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like you can't leave it like that. No, no. I mean, Justin and I did ride along with the with the contractor uh along the
road a month ago, maybe. So, there is on the other end there, it says it's a proposed splitter, island, and detachable warning panel, but it looks like a baller. It's a circle. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Um,
yeah. So, the other the other that's some of the other they do have a little medium kind of thing you can Yeah. This is the other side. Jessica, can you just reach out to uh Brian Bond and ask them why they decided
they didn't need one? And then who when they did the paving down and it or the repaving, who decided what elevations and how it tied in to that? Cuz what I also am concerned about is water, you know, rain runoff. If it's that much of a if there's no lip coming off of the
main road where it dead ends, we're going to have runoff of all that pavement down that run that trail. So in my mind it should be kind of discussed with Ty and Bond and then ask about the uh signs.
Are the signs up or not? The the water supply signs. Yeah, those are up. Those are up along every 50 ft I believe. So I can go out with a tape measure. Yeah. But yeah, they when I walked it last time, they were up on the chain
link fence, which is like closest to the to the water supply. Yep. I don't see him there on the other side. Yeah, I would definitely follow up with Ty and Bond. Make sure that if you have a phone discussion with them, follow up
with an email and that you know there's concern about somebody accidentally driving down the path because I want to make sure that liability is passed to the engineer's record. All right. How are we looking on the pearly brook covert failure? So, I
haven't received any thing back from National Grid. Um, really? That's not like them. I No, I just haven't. It's not known that they were. Um, could you I did go out there to go check to make
sure that it was still blocked off because we don't want the liability of people traversing over the partially collapsed culvert and then you know being the unlucky person to you know you know make it a full collapse and potentially get hurt at the same time as
well as also create you know more of a blockage but early broke into the towards the reservoir. What did we put in there to block that? What's there now? So, originally there was some of those larger cylindrical traffic cones.
Well, yeah, the barrel cones. Um, and then accompanied by a lot of caution tape. But when I went out there last, a lot of the caution tape had been, you know, probably run through and just displaced,
you know, thrown off to the side for people to just keep going through. Um, I did reach out to the DPW to um just to take note of it and see if we can implement anything a little bit more solid. They need to put some some barriers up there um
with some reflective tape cuz I know people use that at night a lot. I went there today and it's it was the same thing. And I I put the tape back. But then coming walking back, I noticed that the last trail turnoff, there was
some caution tape dangling from the side. So maybe they had caution tape across so that people could go off on that last trail. That would be helpful, but it's won't stop people. Yeah, I don't think we're going to stop people. I just think we need to make sure that they know to go around,
especially at night. But can I just reach out to DPW again and make sure then ask for some you know, some barriers across the path so they know to go around it. Something a little bit more substantial than caution tape. You know, caution tape's not even recognized by OSHA, so it doesn't protect us.
Who who owns that? Oh, we talked about that a little bit. So, it's National Grid right away, right? Yeah. New England Power Company. So, subset National Grid kind of thing. So it's but but and who wants to repair national
grid or the city? I think it's on Well, because it's on National Grid's property, they wouldn't have to Well, if they're using it as a rightaway, they maybe if we should be doing the maintenance, too. Yeah. Well, they should have been. So, maybe send an email to National Grid
Copy, you know, the commission and Dane and just kind of ask somebody to give you a call and discuss better barriers and what the plan is. is, you know, we don't want that to sit. So, the ball's getting dropped. Well, what happens too is with all the rain that we've been against these crazy storms. Yeah. You're going to get undermining that you
can't see around that trail and it could potentially someone that's going around it is going to get into a situation as well. There's still water going through the culvert, but the the road is collapsing. Yeah. More than nor more than it was last time.
I didn't see it last time, but you can you can see the cracks. I mean, people should be able to see exactly what it is, but it it would be good to have something better there than just four barrels. Can you can you send that out tomorrow? Yeah. Nice. And just copy the connection. So,
if anybody does call us, we can help out. So, National Grid and EPW. And then uh next on new business is 122 Saunders Street. Activities within the buffer zone of a bordering vegetated wetland. Is somebody here for 122 Saunders? Hi.
Come on up. You have that update. Okay. So, I asked Justin to go out there and take a look. Yes. Um, drove by a few times living out that way and noticed some activities and heard from others
about activities. Can you kind of just discuss what you saw? I know you gave us a feel for what you got too. Yeah. Um so uh so initially you know um was informed
that you know again riding all train vehicles kind of in the buffer zone you know it can get a little dicey depending on how close to the resource area that typically is. Um, but I did call the homeowner right um to see,
you know, because it's it's it's hard when you're just looking on on the side of the road to figure out like, you know, whether or not there is, you know, a major cause for concern or not when you're evaluating these situations. And, you know, Mr. Russian was kind enough to allow me to go visit the property
um to see the extent of potential alteration or disturbance that was around that area. Um so from what I from what I saw a lot of the track you
know is you know touching if not inside you know the inner 30 ft of the of the resource area but since um I think it probably a month or so ago um
a month or so ago you know um you know activities including the riding of those all-terrain vehicles had seized. Um, and when I got in there and looked at it, a lot of the damage to the, you know, to the area
around there seemed very shallow, very superficial kind of thing. Um, and there was only I think just due to one probably miscalculation, you know, on one ride over around that area, there
was maybe one tired treadmark that was on the very edge of the wetland. But given the lack of anything but superficial damage, I have a feeling that if
activities were to probably you know, be either contained or even even cease kind of thing. Then the natural vegetative layer could actually, you know, potentially naturally reclaim itself,
you know, versus, you know, versus an entire restoration plan. Okay. Being informed with this. Um, and, you know, and Mr. Marshand and his family have been pretty cooperative. Um, all things considered, but you know, with
the events, just Mr. Marsh, how you how long have you lived at that property? Uh, since 2016. November of 2016. When you bought it, were you aware of the Wlands right next door? I was not. But as soon as we as soon as our neighbor came over and told us, we
stopped. Okay. All right. Well, uh, was there the machine that they were they were doing, are they allowing it? Uh, one one was the the exhaust broke off it
and they I told them I told them if they're going to ride they at first they started riding in the yard doing donuts in the front yard, tore up all the grass and I said if you're going to ride you got to stop by 7:00 so people can rest and relax. Yeah. So they were they were riding. One
neighbor asked him to stop at 6:00. So they did. And then um my daughter's boyfriend started riding and he was staying out there until like 8 9:00. And I told him he had to stop. Yeah. And then the other neighbor came over.
That's when you guys got called. She's the one that called you and she said, "That's wetland. You can't be riding in there." And nobody's been in thisness. Yeah. And they've only been in there a couple of times that I know of.
Can you explain the colors and what they mean on that? So, especially around the the wings. Yeah. Yeah. You have to then I'll practice it. You always have to take, you know, this with a grain of salt because mapping software depending on when it's been done, you know, it can
change or it can vary in accuracy. But so the traffic light coloration that you see there is the buffer zones designated from the edge of the resource area. Green is the inner 30 which is the no
disturb zone. Uh yellow is the 60 no build and then red is the outer 40 of the 100 ft buffer of the resource area. So it's pretty much you can stay to the left and have your property and that's about it. Yes. Yeah. It doesn't give them a lot of
wiggle room. And what's the dark blue around the back? Uh, so dark blue around the back is what was originally put in as potential riverfront area for a system that Yeah, that's that's all wet back then.
Yeah, I know that. Yeah. Me and my son used to walk out there and go this way down S Street to one of our other neighbors. Yeah. It got worse over the years, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think there's some beaver activity out there. Oh, yes. Yes. All right. So you understand that we're
we're caught in the middle of it, but when it involves white lands and pretty much your you know 90% of your property is affected by that. Yeah. And then I know you said you didn't understand that it was part of you know that it was white lands there but that should show up on your deed um and your and your plan that you when
you bought your house. Just make sure you're aware of where it is. And a lot of times people go out there and they'll put like signage up or cone so people aware um of what it is. And I know a lot of it does go over to 132 Saunders as well.
Yeah, that's the whole front yard. Yeah. Just stay out of it. Try to find another place to go and ride. Your property is pretty much pretty much just that. Yeah. So, and then we got probably I don't know the size of this office for our front yard
which is all in the buffer technically, right? I mean the red portion. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. So, I guess you're out of luck on that side. But um no, one of my friends told us about a place in New Hampshire that they got the kids are going to take them to go ride.
Okay. And I heard they built some track something in Templeton. Did you hear about that? They've been racing up there and everything too. Did you hear about this? No. Yeah. I don't know if they have like pros coming through now. I don't know if they have like You might want to look it up. It's like Supercross or something,
but I know they've had some pros come through. Proer. Is that what it is? I think so. It's been there. Has it? Yeah, it's getting bigger and bigger around the stand. So, um if it's all right with you, we'll check back in a month just to make sure everything's coming back through and
we'll be good to go. You can go look anytime you want. Yeah, obviously I'll call ahead just to make sure everything's okay, but Yep. You can go anytime you want. Appreciate it. Thank you. Yes. This this commissioning, I appreciate you. Yeah, you're doing the right thing.
Taking the time to come in and talk. Thank you very much. I wanted to make sure this was resolved. That's good. You're all set. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And then the uh last one on the agents report. What did you want to go over that? Uh so that just more of a reference of
your report. So uh yeah, for the most part it's a reference, but um so just wanted to guess I did double check with D on it. Um so um one thing that I definitely touched
upon so um as most of the commission knows so case number 160668 that's the um that's the um project that was
proposed for 128 Wag South Road. Um so that went through the appeals process um late last year. Um D took up the appeal. Um and the super seeding site visit was
held on the 9th. Um and uh Commissioner Burns and I both attended it as part of the you know due process for the the appeals um to hear both of the parties
and and you know see how the department was going to handle their due process. Um, as for right now, um, we're waiting on correspondence from D as a followup or,
you know, to confirm or dismiss certain findings and, you know, see whether or not that they will move forward with issuing a superseding order conditions or or otherwise. Okay. Nothing's changed in the property since last year your your last visit.
Um, that was that's not that was not permitted. Nothing. No, nothing more as so far as any work or activity because I think it got healed. Yeah. Right away pretty pretty quickly. So yeah. Yeah.
Until until the process is gone through, you know, just sit back and wait for correspondence. So I I got to say something. the the gentleman that owns the property, you know, he spent over backwards.
Yep. He's Jesus, the guy, he spent a lot of money down there and he's and he and he every time, you know, something came up that that he he had an address, his engineer did it or what, you know, like
I that was a long meeting and it didn't I I Yeah, I I didn't agree with it at all. He followed the process and now the pro process has to continue and it's out of our hands as would be.
All right. Thanks for attending. Um, anybody else have any other new business? No. All right. Let's get through these meeting minutes and then we'll adjourn. So, the first two Nicholas are from 2024. So, we're going to you can
transpose yourself back in time. Just stand down for now on these first two. So, I would like to make a motion to approve the June 3rd, 2024 meeting minutes. I'll make that motion. Some to second. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. Um, the next one is June
24th, 2024. Would someone like to make a motion to approve those meeting minutes? I'll make that motion. Someone to second. Second. All in favor? I. Great. And then we're going to move to Nicholas. You can vote on these now. I cannot vote on the one for the night.
was not attendance. Yep. The 9th. You're right. Um someone could make a motion to approve the June 9th, 2025 meeting minutes. I'll make that motion. Someone like to second. Second. All in favor? I uh the like to make a motion to approve
the June 23rd, 2025 meeting minutes. I'll make a motion. Someone like to second. I'll second it. All in favor? I just to make him write more. All right. Um there's nothing further. Someone like to make a motion to approve uh to end tonight's hearing. I'll make a motion.
Someone like second. I'll second. All in favor? Thank you everybody. Thank you.