all right everybody let's get started if we got a busy agenda tonight so if we could keep all the cross talk down to a minimum um thank you all for coming and we'll do the best we can to move through everything pretty quickly uh first on the agenda our meeting actually first on the agenda I'd like to talk about
something as a new member Nicholas summer Hayes welcome aboard thank you uh Nicholas um has been in the city for a while and he reached out and has some experience that he'd like to help us and support us with so um welcome Nick to the commission and he said he'd do all
walkthroughs take all of our notes and everything for he said he talking cies too so welcome AB board we're going to ro right into the meeting minutes we're still getting caught up um we have meeting minutes for
December 23rd believe everybody here can vote on that would someone like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes of December 23rd motion I'm like to second that motion all in favor um next is uh the meeting minutes of the
January 13 2025 just want to make sure everybody's on here is present someone like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes of January 13 someone like to second that motion all in favor thank
you uh currently there no request for certificate of compliance on enforcement orders we have three of them that are still open the first one is sludge landfill um anybody on the commission have any new business to discuss on the sludge landfill anybody in the audience have any new business to discuss about the
Sledge landfill it's got to be new business no thank you please go ahead Paul State your your name and and and you got two minutes okay thank you yeah Paul De president um what I would like to bring up tonight
is what was what was sent to the concom about the photos um that were taken by satellite over the years showing the pond that was created at the top of the
soled landfill including an earn Dam which failed back in the fall discharging water into the adjoining
Wetlands thank you okay thank you anybody else we're going to keep that enforcement order open there's no other new business at this time that we wish discuss we're still working on that uh the next is enforcement for 36 Nicole terce anybody here to represent 36
Nicole terce nobody got anybody nobody she back yeah I think she's back right no it's one more week why we continue yeah someone like to make a motion to continue yeah she was supposed to be back on vacation I think coming up let's
make a motion to continue to the 10th or was it the 24th uh 20 no I know the next meeting but I thought was it she's let's push it to the 24th for now okay someone like can make a motion to move it to the 20 March
make that motion second all in favor so moved is approved to the 24th waiting for the engineer to get back to vcation next on the enforcement order is 282 Brookside Drive is somebody here to represent 282 Brookside Drive yes come on up and state your
name okay you stand up yet my name is a okay own 282 Brookside Drive yes correct so what happened on that other property next to yours is not the property I just cut some trees and I did
I'm so sorry about that I wasn't know the LA and I wasn't know like this is a big problem so is it on your property or is it off your property where the trees were cut it's a it's I think it's for it's from my my land you don't know where your property boundaries are there
is no sign that say that but you need to know where your property boundaries are do you understand what I mean yeah you need to know where all your boundaries are you just don't can't keep cutting if you if you don't know then it's probably not yours no it's in my land you think I
I'm not sure exactly where it this but it's not is nobody in from that side right but that doesn't mean you own it where's the what's the plot look like do you have that I do have so is this this your house right
here yes and you see those these red lines right there that's your property lines right okay right I never knows that well do how many acres do you own on your taxes what does it say I think
it's like a 6 6 I think I'm not sure right so do you think 6 is this much and all this too I didn't cut all this in this circle see the circle you didn't you recognize that at all it could be okay I'm not sure
exactly what well I think you should definitely understand where your property boundaries are how many trees do you think you cut down that you weren't aware of about maybe around 12 or 15 something like and how big were they like uh some smaller and some like
that big why did you cut them some of them like I have some to the house I didn't cut it yet and I'm not going to until to see but some Branch from the tree fell down from the house yeah and
also I was have one tree was next side the house two years ago half of it broke down in the house and when it's windy and make too much uh nois and and my kids I have two kids they get in worry about it all the time but L my wife yeah
and I was cutting this try to fixing like to put like the fruit tree or something plus also like there is a lot of animal comes in that area uh a lot of animals like uh deers and my son saw
beer last year deer or bear bear bear and deer too okay I good thing that's what that's what happens it's good and I saw foxes too okay and also there is like animal I don't know what the name I ask him about it he told him in the morning it's like a small animal he cuts
the tree too I don't know he told yes okay that's nature and that's what happens in the woods I don't know how many years have you lived there since end of 200 to A1 and you you understand in your deed there's a statement about the water and
the wetlands behind your house right I really I didn't read it and nobody you didn't read it so I think you should go back and read your deed so you understand what you bought and where your property lines are and that there's you know Riverfront area in the back of your property right where your grass
ends I know your property and I've been out there a couple times over the years for previous ownership um and I you probably want to have it surveyed and then put some markers in the ground so you understand your your plot your footprint of what you own those red lines you want to put
something in the ground drive them in and spray paint them orange whatever you need to do so you know that you're not on your property cuz somebody else owns that property next to you and they're not happy that you cut their trees down I am really sorry I really I don't know yeah I I understand
but I don't know I asked go ahead D it's on how many trees did you say it couldn't it could be like a 15 or 15 I'm not sure exactly it look like there some big use a chainsaw in there a chainsaw yes you use a chainsaw
yeah the problem is that it's a you know vegetated Wetland border now the shade's gone and um so that's why we have these regulations in place is to help protect the habitat that's there and even though you didn't know it at the time it's still against uh the
regulations that exist and so we have to try to figure out a way to help Rectify that situation get his right take a while well huh I think that we should probably do a site visit out
there take a look and see um yeah well on the property so get a hold of property owners we obviously know who they are yeah and um see if we can just kind of walk out there so in the meantime we're going to vote to move this to March
24th and give you some time to figure out your property boundary lines how I can do that call a surveyor you could call Justin and he can help you out a little bit okay okay and if you have somebody you need to help interpret that would be great
too hold on one second um and then find out where your property lines are so you know for the future find your deed and read your deed so you understand what you bought and what's behind you because there's all kinds of um restrictions on the back of your property you know how your grass
line kind of butts up to some trees and brush there's there's a there's a boundary there that's the bordering vegetated wetlands and Riverfront there's all kinds of stuff going on back there and you need to know what what you have out there okay I know you said you saw bears and wolves and all that other
fun stuff that's the forest and that's what we're protecting that Wetlands back there you understand what that means it's like it's like ground it's not a pond it's not a it's not a lake it's water and that water is access filtration so when it rains that water
gets filtered and gets down into the ground and comes back into our our drinking water and our on our environment I really I didn't even know that it was in back until I cut it I didn't even see water I have like a big hole next to the house andain about it
for the city last year yeah because there is a lot of a snake also comes from this area yeah well that's all because of that Wetlands back there and you sit outside at night in the summer and you hear those crickets and frogs that's what we're here for to protect all that so when you cut that down you have this big tree with this big canopy
and the sun's hitting it it's protecting the wetlands and drying up you cut that tree down now the sun can come right through and dry up that Wetland area we don't we don't want that we're here to protect that I'm sorry but yeah it's it's not a sorry we just got to figure out your land and how to fix it because
now we got to get trees back in there okay all right go ahead David uh usually when you buy a house you get a map of your property yeah true um now I don't know if you have all that paperwork from when you bought the house but there's usually
a plot plan in there uh when you sign get all the paper so as you look through that you see that's done by a s I don't know how old they are but it's there now Justin would it be possible for you and
this gentleman to get together and explain to him lot of the stuff he doesn't understand I really feel bad for him because he doesn't understand and maybe he should have looked into it more but I think somebody needs to coach him a little bit as what's going on yeah
yeah that's why we're going to continue it so he can get a hold of and look at his paperwork yeah we you know the lot right okay so we're going to we're going to have you come back and by the 24th of March give us an update of your property
your deed make sure you understand it and then we'll talk about how we're going to fix it okay okay would someone like and make sure you keep thank you would someone like to make a motion to continue the enforcement order on we might we might
have another party here oh that has a state the situation oh okay somebody here on the other side of 282 the property owner y um Emily Marino uh director of land programs for North County Land Trust um so we own that land
that abots your property and also um Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation holds a conservation restriction on that property so there are um some other regulations that prevent tree cutting over the property line so the ab buding property also has
some legal reasons why treats can't be cut there on top of the wetlands regulations so when we figure out how to fix that we also need to take those regulations and the conservation restriction into account yeah so we just wanted to understand what happened in his lot and obviously when I said I need
know who owns it we were going to come and ask if we can get on there and take a look AB we did have some pictures but we'd like to try to get somebody else here to look at it yep and then we'll work with you and get them in charge in touch with somebody we can't tell him we will go out and find obviously but we can make some recommendations and who he
can work with to get those trees replanted and come up with a plan and hopefully satisfy all your requests in the states as well thanks would someone like to make a motion to continue the 24th of March motion made second second all in
favor so move is approved to move to or continue to the 24th thank you give give Justin a call okay okay thank you very much em we'll get a hold of your to our Vis thank you just we're hold ratification time to ratify
anything um next on the hearings is a request of determination of applicability the gardener Conservation Commission will a joint public hearing under mgl chapter 131 section 40 Wildland protection act and City Gardener wance protection ordinance and the request for termination applicability followed by James pleas
the project is located at 125 snake Pond Road Gardener map 82-54 for the proposed tree removal and it's just set to occur within the buffer of reing vated wetland anybody here to represent 125 snake Pond
Road there's nobody here so you U any other update on that no anything on and all have you driven by can you take a road Ride Ride by El has been done I have taken it I took a Dr by um about a week and a
half ago there's no sign of any cutting or anything can you reach out to them and just uh see if they can come before us on the March 10th meeting yep some to make a motion to approve the continuance of 125 snake pwn road to March 10 I'll
make that motion I'll all in favor so approved to March 10th the next is the no vent The Garden of Conservation Commission will hold a joint public hearing under mgl chapter 131 section 40 Wetlands protection act
Gardener Wetlands protection ordinance not 10 followed by G Consulting LLC on behalf of windrest Properties LLC for the proposed construction of single family home driveway and Associate utilities this project is located off Betty Spring Road Garder it's map R 2725
24 and a portion of the work is set to occur within the offer zone of the board of educated Wetland is somebody here to represent hi everyone my name is andreo I'm a wetland scientist with G Consulting I'm also here with our engineer Justin Clair with Mardi just for the commission to be
aware there's no D number yet so we can't really vote we're just this is for informational purposes only yep absolutely there's no DP number yet I checked I'm actually on the way here so the goal is to introduce the part to you guys tonight take any questions you may have and then Contin to the next meeting so I will start start by giving just a
run through of the property and then um just be here anything water design related you just mentioned it's currently known as zero Betty Spring Road it's about a 2 and A4 acre lot it's a lot immediately to the south of 55 Betty Spring Road it's currently
forested and undeveloped my company G took a look at the property and flaged the wetlands back in August of 2023 and that's what you see here shown in blue um the wetlands are primarily off site they continue a ways off the site plan here um what it is is the property is a steep hill it pitches up off the road
and so the drainage is heading down the property and groundwater breakouts form um ordering vated Wetlands off to the side here and the wetlands tend to channelize and run towards Betty Spring Road what we see right here is the sort of bottom of the site where this little
IM stream comes down forms a little pocket of BBW before it hits the drainage and and goes under Betty Spring Road so we flagged everything that would put a buffer zone onto the property and now come forward with intent to construct a single family house uh both the house you see here and the garage
are laid out fully outside of the H buffer zone the regulatory jurisdiction here the 30ft no disturb zone is shown here in pink the no build Zone the 60t is shown in yellow and then the full 100 foot cler zone is shown in green right here and so what we're looking at is
it's a portion of the driveway access and then the storm water management is located within the 100t buffer zone um the housing garage been left out the driveway itself is actually outside of the 60t as well um it's that line that we see here comes just
outside as of the driveway there's about 4250 ft total in the lot only about 2,685 is within the buffer zone so the goal is to orient both the access of the site and then as much of the structures as possible fully outside of the buffer zone so we're looking at a driveway um
just outside of 60 ft there's a pstone diaphragm that runs within portions of the 100 pors of the 60 for stor water management and then a rain Garden that we see here right on the edge of the 60 the most important thing to up with this project is you would have seen in the noce intent that there was a slight um
temporary disturbance that we included within the 30ft Nob Zone the purpose for that is as I said the drainage of this Wetland runs down and it hits that that um catch Basin in Betty Spring Road and so what we wanted to do was make sure that we could manage storm water on site
not in a way that we're not going to pitch any sort of drainage into that road anything that's going on over there I so just not to go more into detail on this but what we're doing is we're installing an underd drain to outlet the rain Garden to keep the water pitching towards the wetlands as it does now um and he was able to design it in a way
where that's temporary only you can install that whole thing by hand and once it's done we're seeding it with the new the Wetland plants conservation seed mix over that um and then finishing up in the area so there's no permanent impacts at all on the 30 foot and we've kept all structures outside the 60t but
you're you're in the 30 and the 60 right we are in so we're in the 30 we're in the 30 only for that temporary rain garden and once we're done weing it and nothing what's what's our ordinance for the 60 60 is no no build zone so no structures nothing that requires no build right the no disturb is 30 the no
build is 60 under your ordinance driveways and store management it's not part of the build want yeah go ah so you're putting a rain Garden up there right yep yeah so that's down here so there's a so that's within the the 60 so there's no structures Associated just
gring it down planing with Native species for water uptake so it's trying to handle Green Storm Water Management without you know throwing down structure down there so exactly okay go ahead really we're not deliberating or anything we're just informational yeah
informational question um I really like the idea of the storm storm drain and Rain Garden but do you have any wiggle room on on that like I don't like that thing in the 30 so I'll over so the only
thing sorry I'll love to see take turn so as Andrew said the only thing located within the 30 no disturb is the under
drain for the rain Garden the reason being is based on the grades your bottom of basin is 501 where the lowest point on the site where the water goes is down at 499 498
maybe 500s the top of it so realistically to get this rainard into drain we've done two things I did submit this to the city engineer for him to review his two recommendations were to
propose some modify grading here in the right way which DPW and engineer would allow us to do to provide positive drainage in the event that this a never overflowed instead of going straight across Bay Spring Road we provide a
Swale that would direct it back towards that existing catch Basin the second thing that he recommended was to put an under drain in the rain garden and where we're proposing it is ideally where it would daylight so it's just based on
grades ideally if we could move it up we would but the problem is the more we move it up the less that we're capturing on site so this maximizes our runoff prepost allows us to capture the majority of the runoff and again it's
only a maybe a 4 in underr that for these rain Gardens as much as they're being proposed shown designed I don't want to say en forced but just recommended as much any way you do them
at some point even if you do make maintain and we do have an on plan for the rain Gardens these things don't drain as well as your typical infiltration Bas that you have so a lot of SES are starting to find that out that they're having flooding issues with
these rain Gardens so now they're really saying we need the under drains at least to just Wick out the Basin so that we don't have a potential back to back rain event where this thing does flat and in where it is not only is it going to
flood into the W here it's it is going to flood this way but again we are grading within the right away to make sure it does not go across the street so like Andrew said it's a it can be dug hand trench it's
only as wise need to be for the under drain it's temporary it'll be buried like said you have a wetland seed mix as your replication per se within that but but that really is the only
spot that we can show the under drain as again this is your low Point anything this way you're starting to come upgrade so it'll never take like okay I'm just curious um could you put a basin in there then instead of a
rain Garden that wouldn't require into the 30 no the reason saying this is the only option yes the reason being is under the local somar regulations which all the municipalities are starting to go over they require 90%
PSS removal as well as 60% phosphorus removal your infiltration basins even with pre-treatment don't provide that the only thing that provides that again in our design guidelines is a rain garden with the required pre-treatment
which in this case this the pone diaphragm here you see in the lighter gray so this is a stone trench that has Mori fiber wrapped in it that discharges down to the Rain Garden which allows us
to achieve the 96% required is this lock unbuildable unless you do this design no it is still buildable lot loaded question I'm sorry yeah no no it is a loaded question that's why I I know is perone it's a buildable Lot C
right it is a buildable lot again I originally did not have the Ender drain in it knowing what the city's regulations and the commission's preference with the 30 is after submit to city engineer the
recommendation was that the under drain is pertinent to the design and again based on where the grades are it doesn't matter if it's here or here or over here you're still daylighting just within that 30 and
again that's why do they have to daylight in the 30 just cuz the just based on elevations it ideally if I CH the size of the PIP so it doesn't can the pipe drain below and not discharge at the end no because again the elev you're bom a base and we're at 501
you're probably say $4.99 where we're daylighting so even then we're minim iing and trying to Daylight this thing as fast as we can just to minimize that impact I mean ideally if I if I could
daylight it right at the 30 I'd cut it off right at the 30 and say forgot I do what it does but again just it's not just because of how deep this depression is that's the issue all right
well the other problem is well I kind of I mean I know you have an on manual that you're present to the Y you really think the property owner is going to do the maintenance on that so we have we have public buildings and State Properties in the city that
they don't even give us the sign work on onm so and I believe garders is written the same way that these are required to be recorded with the deed I know so it then falls on your agent if they
don't receive the onm they're able to act on it but the agent doesn't sit there and go all right today is the onm manual for this zero bety Spring Road I hope you did it it doesn't you know how that process goes let's just it realistically yes but
legally the steps are in place to legally you're supposed to know your property boundaries and I I'm happen yes and we run into this in every municipality it's the same thing
we all battle it yeah so and and us as the engineers all we can do is say yep here it is yep it's going to be recorded we've even had even though it's redundant we've had commissions say yep special condition you have to record the M we yeah with the registry yeah we've
done that like it's is is the person building the house going to live in this house no so the I was that could help a little bit no but the contract there that is building this He is building it for one of his long time employees who's
moving back here okay so there there is there is some connection yes okay it's not Mr Smith building it for Mr Carson or whatever Jason Justin just all
right what's the elevation of a house so elevation of the house the garage is at 522 what's the elevation at the road oh jeez you're at 501 so this thing is it's tight it's a cliff and
this is again now let me let me ask you another question for for years they had the PTY spring there where is that located so I believe the natural spring I believe it
bust it breaks out right there right busts out over here which then overflows into to the catch Basin right in front of it yeah which is I believe it's a legion catch Basin and then part of it pipes under the road and dumps into dunp yeah MH the actual Spring right there is
basically a mix tree BBW that slowly pitches down the slope channelizes hits there a sharp too break right the Basin right here it shoots over fills up and then overflows into the catch Basin yeah and for reference I believe it's this piece here that is the city's property
yeah there squel right by the Road all right so when you're digging this footing in the foundation what you're going to have so much dewatering I assume right yes how you going to dewat that where you going to pump it to so Foundation drains ideally
dewatering there is a erosion control proposed that you have temporary sentation basins stra Waddles all those yeah and we're also proposing outside
yeah Outside The Bu about the to slope here and our Wick drain in the event that there is seepage from the slope so again all that will be naturally conveyed down to where it all goes now
to the bottom of the hill these are directed everything's directed to come across the slope into the pone diaphrag and then again SW down to the you can't change that driveway to come around and out of that so that rain Garden is not
in the 30 all right did I'm gr off property or I'm putting a giant retaining wall on the opposite side of the property line and trying to find the best of both worlds here because I did look at take even taking this driveway and moving it Seline 10 ft it throws my
grading off property why is the driveway you're proposing so that driveable yeah driveway is 15 ft 4 and 1/2 so I'm 4 and 1/2 12% and then I gradually
lessen up here until about 2% can you taper the driveway down at the end or you can't do that and get the turns back onto so turns are fine typically I don't like it in the 30 I mean no no and I and I know and your driveways what's a typical driveway
usually 12 to 15 ft I think IR is 15t so again we're I would say we could probably cut this back a little bit but even then digging it out I think you're still going to have just
to get in there you might have a little bit of impact we don't want any impact that's to me no and that's why we're proposing the really the replication of try to out and again just trying to put it in
perspective for for pipe at the biggest so you're only digging a tiny trench to and again we would that trench Forest contract are well you off special condition to have
the Wetland scientist on it so when we did go meet with the DPW in the engineering department the contractor was there with me and this was Point contention brought up I knew it would be and I looked at him and said
they don't they're not going to want machine in here at all yeah and not talk about having a shovel in there but like worst case would you dig it by hand he's like we could do it all right I'm not going to open this up for the public because no there's no DP number hold on
dunan but go ahead sure I guess so go ahead here you know you've been in Ghana right y you know Ghana is a crazy City because there's ledge here and then you drop off and there's no ledge is there
any Ledge in there they going to have to do some blasting so there was I wouldn't say ledge it it was I didn't think so it was Rocky cuz obviously you boarded already so I believe they did a couple
exploratories we did do some augers with I believe the colie Mitch is the original one out there it was Mitch mlan got out there so he was out there he did some exploratory um hand borings just to see again what where the soils were what the
soils looked like it was Rocky which doesn't surprise me considering BF Hill Road is pretty much where I'm standing so that being the top of the hill everything coming down but I didn't see any outcroppings or anything that would
lead me to believe that there's a lot of ledge here okay so we're going to continue this uh we'll do the 10 just to see but I think DP might take more time issuing a number and then we're going to want to see their comments on that yeah
um but great eous numbers yeah so you know try to see what you can do up there yeah any ideas version ABC would be fantastic yep and then the on andn plan y have that finalized yep do you want to do the 10th or do you want to do 24th
you guys pick we do I think we'll have you number by the 10th I say hopefully will they have their comments to us as well by then yeah number is usually a list to com once they that you close they should do that sanly they said they can do the yeah as
as as we get the we don't we'll weon would someone like to make a motion to uh continue um Betty Spring Road zero Betty Spring Road to the 10th of March motion one
second all in favor is approve thank you if you don't hear by the 10 yeah we'll we'll let you know that's not a problem no all slow no come on
awesome sometimes they surprise me that's the thing I mean all right 170 M Street under old business we're going to continue that we're working on a few things nothing to really talk about at this point we s like to make a motion to continue to March 10th yeah I'll make that motion someone like to second that
motion to March 10th second all in favor so move is approved thank you next on the agenda is D 160 0651 is somebody here to represent
the come on how you doing good so good you want to kind of talk about where we stand and so um I got the DP number I believe was two years ago roughly um and I approached just into I want I want to
build a house this coming spring so I knew the timeline was coming to an end soon so I initially approached them to extend it and upon investigating all this I'm guilty I didn't sign I didn't bring the paperwork to wer to have it
registered but at the same token it was found that I guess the D number was never filed with the town with the city or the city never filed it also so I'm here to get everything hopefully squared away so I can bring the number to
wer and the city can file their number or their paperwork whatever and then uh move forward so I've never had that happen before that's what makes me think like all right so what happened to make so nobody has the paperwork and I understand that the engineer doesn't have it either no
he I had the original that was it and I moved in the process I got remarried to the woman I'm living with now next doored the property and in my neglect I somehow lost the big work in the move MOS doesn't have it either no that's
what concerns me cuz Chris is really detailed he is I had the I only I was the only one with the original he didn't keep any of his own drawings no oh drawings we have yeah but any other documents or anything documentation no okay what do you have on this one um so
I ended up calling D just to get advis us to whether a retroactive um recording or compilation of an original order minus the signature page because that was given with the um
with the copy if that could be yeah this that's the majority of it it's just missing the special conditions but um D um suggested that I take a site visit in order to see how compliant the
site actually was up to the modern day um upon going on the site um and I talked to Ron about this so before there was some initial clearing
from back from back then um but other than that um the only things that have to really um change if the commiss work were to uh the only the only things that would also have to happen in addition to
recording are um our replacement um of the existing erosion controls because of the years they have aged and you know kind of been torn up a little bit um and also making sure that the DP file number
is officially posted at the site so people know that there's an active and permitted project that is there um was it posted the DP number I have the I have the posting made I just got to put it I'm going to put it on a
telephone poll which is get to a telephone poll I cannot I would okay so then I just put it on a post on the property that would be visible from the yeah yes
okay well I mean post it posted DP let us try to do a site visit as a group just so we can all just refresh yeah and we'll bring it back up and vote on it in March 10th is that fair to everybody are you okay if we enter the property with you not being there just because it makes it easier yeah and you he he I met
there we walk yeah I mean it's kind of hard to see but at least we get a visual of where it is yeah and then still put all the sil F out was Morman yeah was Morman Chris Morman is my engineer yeah he did all the drawing
he didn't have any on on it I'm I'm positive he does not I contacted Chris M see if because sometimes you know and again we can talk about this as a change in process sometimes a commission will sign multiple signature Pages just in case one gets lost yeah we used to do
that and um and Chris M and for did not have a copy of the issue order um so originally the the property was abandoned it had a double wide trailer on it and the
gentleman that owned it was a horticulturist and so the place was just covered with burning bushes and not to mention like 40 to 50 humongous trees um and so when I did all this work and had it legally done I I had the property
cleared and then I also demolished the trailer legally um and then I was going to build back then but then Co we were amongst Co and I I just put the brakes on it and I'm like so I waited and now
we're re revisiting I looked back through my stuff and I couldn't find much on it do you have anything on it you guys have anything I remember it I do too but we the meeting we did line right excuse me you're right on the west Min line not right on it close
to it right yeah the West Min Line's probably another four or five houses down yeah yeah okay so we're going to make a motion to continue it to the 10 and commission members you can take a just a drive by and take a look yeah get your sign posted Y and then just talk
when we come back on the 10 talk about how you going do your Sil fence and your wall bottles and all obviously with the snow you can't um right now but hopefully and I'm not going to do anything until spring anyway so yeah kind of talk about your process when you plan on potentially starting yeah the
permit process down street down downstairs I just got the green light from them last week because I was waiting for zoning laws to change to go from 100 ft of Frontage down to 75 yeah cuz all the Watts a 95 Y and they didn't tell me that when I got a demolition
permit and when I I approached him to file notice a file of intent he denied me and says if you've got patience he says wait till February a lot is going to change and you'll be good to go so okay so thank you we're working with you
trying just yeah yeah yeah no it's definitely odd for Chris not to have it and us not to have it I just want to make sure and it could have just be it's pre agents I believe or just starting a new agent yeah so all right would someone like to make a motion to continue the filing for D
16651 to March 10 is that no is that going to be enough time oh for me fine yeah all I've got to do is put the post up at the with the sign okay yeah yeah I'll make that motion to second that motion second all in favor thank you
thank you I'm not going to be on the 10 say think so why not right that's what's the that I live next door at 72 great you'll see a big fifth wheel trailer in the ads that's okay thank you thank you thank
you folks thank you under new business we have professional development we have the MC conference coming up on the 1 which is this coming Saturday um I think uh myself David or and K are going K bring in
coffee oh you don't drive get the check the amount yep y this process good and then um let's just uh so the the people that haven't gone for a while we usually when we get back we talk about the classes we took you know two
or three bullet points just to kind of you know bring the rest of the commission off to speed um we tried to separate what classes everyone's taken for some but it some of them just didn't work we all surpris interest in the same stuff but I thought when I went last time with Doug was good to have us both in the same we
were both in two of the same classes and it made a lot of sense so um not like they care if you change classes they don't really monitor it too much but um thank you for those that are forfeiting their Saturday except for Justin um any
other other new business Justin you want to go over uh so far as um so far professional development anything else uh um I'm going to be pursuing a um um a little bit of professional development over the next couple months I'll be attending
some workshops at University of New Hampshire in order to increase my understanding and Effectiveness with judgment regarding Wetlands by taking um Wetland delation courses um need to complete one primary or one core course
in soils U but then four elective courses in order to earn a professional certificate um but yeah be looking forward to can I the
um h Nicole teras right oh it's on the agenda so we're not going to it's new new like no no I just we already talked about it here what else we continue we contined
until the 24th I I know but she was supposed to she was the the loga was going to come in and check it and she was supposed to call that she had hired him what did she ever get a she um contacted me saying that they ran into a
little bit of a hurdle trying to get a logger um they contacted three parties to see if they could assess the price um the low end on the first one was
$111,000 the the highend one was $115,000 and then there was one uh one logger that didn't want anything to do with that specific project um they're currently exploring alternatives to see if they
can so you yeah that's that's fine yeah got anything else no all right our next coming meeting is obviously March 10th and March 24th that is it for the agenda someone like to make a motion to end
tonight's hearing motion a second second all in favor I thank you have a good night