[Music] All right, let's uh let's get started for tonight's meeting. Um, first on the agenda, public comment on any agenda items. Does anybody in the audience have anything they want to bring up for the two-minute public uh discussion? No.
All right, moving on. Meeting minutes. Let's just make sure. >> All right. Would someone like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes of August 12th, 2024 as we're still getting getting caught? >> I'll make that motion.
>> Some like to second that motion. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Someone is approved. You do the next one, right? Does someone like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes of July 28th, 2025? >> I make the motion. >> Thank you. Would someone like to second
that motion? I got all in favor. >> I Thank you. You have one more Justin on the notes on outstanding. >> Yeah. Uh so we only have two sets of minutes left in the outstanding catalog. One of them's already partially done.
So, I should hopefully have us all caught up by their next meeting or the meeting after. >> Good. Thank you. Way to go. >> Uh the next one's uh the enforcement order on the sludge landfill. It has been continued to 20 uh a um August
25th, 2025. Uh same as uh 36. You have any other update on sludge or you want to we can't really discuss too deep because it's >> Yeah, we can next time. Okay. Uh the next one is uh is the 36 Nicole
Terrace which has also been continued oh shoot uh to October 27 2025 and basically we extended that because we're waiting for the growth season to come through and see what trees take. Uh same thing on 282 Brooks drive which is
continued to October 27th. Again waiting for all the plantings to make sure they they hold. Uh first on the agenda for hearings is the request for determination applicability. The Gardener Conservation Commission will hold a joint public hearing under MGL chapter 131, section
40, the wetlands protection act in the city of Gardener wetlands protection ordinance on a request for termination of applicability followed by Keith Banoff of Gardner for the proposed installation of a patio next to a single family dwelling set to take place at 90
Kendall Farm West Gardner which is mapped H17-9-9. The work will occur within the buffer zone of a bank bordering on a on land
underwater. Some be here to represent. >> Yes. >> Come on up. >> How you doing? >> All right. >> Believe I talked to you on the phone. >> Greg. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, you're just basically you're putting the patio in, >> correct? >> No major construction or anything.
>> Um Justin, do you have any other input on this one? >> Um No major input other than you know because of its proximity to the resource area to be monitor through an RDA.
>> It's far as I know the applicant is poised to you know set it back 30 ft from the water which would put it um off our no disturb zone. So patios aren't
considered a structure under bylaw. Um so they are able to be put within they are able to be put in the nail build zone. Okay. So, I did speak to the applicant as well and he's understands how the
process works and how it had to kind of play through and I know it can be monotonous at times, but it's the right thing to do and I appreciate you coming forward to do the right thing. Um, I I don't have an issue with it. I was going to propose um
proceeding with, you know, just some comments and concerns and then just make sure that You know, Justin's in involved in the process as much as he can be with starting the work and stuff, but um go ahead. >> The only thing I have is on your
Saturday, how long is it going to take him? >> Uh I'd have to talk to the guy, but I'm pretty sure he was only going to take a few days. >> Yeah, it's quick. >> Few days tops. >> Yeah. Okay. Uh would someone like to make a motion to close the hearing for 90 Kendall Pond West?
>> I'll make that motion. Someone second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I thank you. >> All second. Yeah. Um I was going to say negative3 determination. I did talk to Justin about it. I think that's probably
most consistent with the project. I mean other people have done stuff without any coming before us. The gentleman hung through. >> He and I talked. He's talked to Justin. He's come through on everything. I think we're good to go. So, but someone like to make a motion to approve um the -3
for 90 km. >> I'll make that motion. >> Someone like to second that motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I thank you. Sign documents and then um >> Okay. Not too quick.
>> That's all right. We're just he's finishing up the paperwork in a couple days and we'll get back to you. >> No, I just wanted to make sure you knew that we were kind of getting all the paperwork completed. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. Appcate.
[Applause] Uh next is a notice of intent. The gardener conservation commission will hold a joint public hearing under MGL chapter 131 section 40 of the wetlands protection act and the city of gardener wetlands protection ordinance on those intent by AECOM on behalf of Massachusetts Department of Conservation
Recreation known as DCR for proposed drainage improvement resurfacing project located at Dun State Park located at 289 Pearl Street Gardener. It's map uh W27-16-2. Portions of the proposed work are set to
occur within the buffer zone of an inland border uh bank bordering land underwater. Is somebody here to represent? >> Yes. Hello Fisher representing Amy. Mr. Thomas Walton represent DC. >> Is it done or don?
>> Thank you. >> It's always a battle. right here, too. >> He's missing it. >> We make him read it on the weekends. >> Thank you. [Music]
[Music] You and K did do a site visit. >> Yes. Yes. Yes, we did. You guys got to run out there and go for a hike or something or >> was he hiking at company time? >> I took a couple pictures forward.
>> Amazing how many people use that park. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that they used in the uh >> Yeah. Thanks for bearing with me to the interesting question. I should I should
I'll see if I can finishing off. >> Don't trust. >> Thank you. It'll be fine. That definitely looks going to do my best here. Apologize. Thank you so much for your time. >> It's okay.
[Music] Thank you. All right. Ready to rock and roll. Uh so again, my name is Heidi Fish. I'm representing AECOM, um consultant for uh Massachusetts Department of Conservation Recreation. um proposed for the um
pavement resurfacing and drainage improvements work at Dun State Park. Uh Dun State Park is owned and operated by CCR uh recreational area welcomes um thousands of visitors per year for various recreational uses as I'm sure you know it very well. Um located across
from Garner Elementary on Pearl Street. Um just kind of give you a geographic notion. Um let's see. I just pull up to the kind of look and see what we're working with. So, uh, proposed work that's going to take place at D State Park, uh, is to overall
improvements on the drainage features that are currently existing, uh, as well as to include some new drainage features to, uh, mitigate the, uh, sheet flow issue that's currently being experienced at the park. Uh, at the moment, uh, the park is experienced a lot of runoff from Pearl Street, as well as, uh, various
pave services within the park itself, uh, the parking lot, the various paved walkways. Um, so there's going to be a number of improvements made throughout the park. Um, in terms of the improvements that are going to be jurisdictional under the weapons protection act and for the gardener uh, excuse me, gardener wetlands protection
ordinance, uh, the two main components that's going to be, uh, part of the project is going to be the improvement of a water quality swale, uh, which currently is located in this part of the park. Uh, there's a covered pavilion that's located here. Um the swale is located west of that um and runs down to
an existing catch base and that's uh right here. Um and the other component is going to be the creation of a bio retention system on the western side of the property. Uh that's going to be right here. Um these two components are currently within the 100t buffer um from
the bank to Dun Pond. Uh so the purposes of these is to again to sort of mitigate that runoff that's currently being uh experienced in the park. Uh the bio retention system is for the purposes of collecting a lot of that runoff that's occurring from Pearl Street, the walkways on the western side of the
property. Um and that's to filtrate and collect uh that runoff before it accumulates down to Dun Pond. Um sort of similarly uh with the water quil quality swale that will also be um for the purposes of of filtrating that that's also coming from paved surfaces within
the park. Um and will be going into that um existing catch basin. So um it will be done within the um water quality swale will be um improvement grading um as well as the um installation of a um corrugated slotted pipe um and that'll
go right to what's already existing for the catch bas or yes for the catch basin. dust button will um be tied into the existing system. Um the creation of the rain garden, the bio retention system on the western side of the property. Uh that will be a uh depression that will be created in the
natural landscape. Um which will then also be um included with that will be a stone wall um on the northern part of the rain garden and then a stone weir on the southern portion to accumulate or to account for any um spillover.
Um and on top of the um depression that will be created will be a top soil for filtration as well as um native plantings. Um similarly with the water quality soil will also be um once the uh pipe has been installed um with protective barrier there will also be um
installation of uh filtrated top soil as well as natural plantings. Um let's see. Uh and additionally um along the uh paved walkway which is also within the 100 foot buffer um that'll just be reclamation and uh repaving. So
no new furious uh surface as part of this project. Um everything will be uh limited to the 100 foot buffalo stone. Nothing will be within many jurisdictional resource areas. >> You have a list of the plantings you're proposing. Uh I believe that that is
going to be um it's all mass DOT standard. Um I believe in the back of plans it might have a caveat for which specific um the specific species are listed but they should all be within those standards. >> We do like to know what's being planted. We have a couple that are heavily involved.
>> So um in plantings their background. So if you could kind of maybe highlight those um at some point that'd be great. >> Okay. Sure. Um I would probably have to reach out to our engineer to get more specific on that but he can get that information. >> Yeah it's more for clarification I guess
DCI has a painting palette that we yeah do um you know pollinating flowers and but we certainly can provide anything. Thank you. So basically, you're trying to just stop all that erosion coming down the hill
and all that sheet from the street. >> Mhm. Yeah. To try to sort of mitigate some of the um anything that's not being treated before enters the pond. kind of help to um help with the overall improvement of the water quality as well down pond sedimentation um kind of
making sure that nothing kind of continues to kind of go downhill as it were to kind of um stay within vegetative areas or to kind of collect in these areas that we're proposing. Do >> you know how many gallons on average a year that flow through and don't aren't treated coming in or is it is there a way to tell I don't know if you studied
that at all? Yeah, it might be in our storm water report which was in the permit application, but um off the top of my head >> that's tough to say because a lot of the uh the water quality swale that I talked about >> there's a lot of ledge and that's kind
of coming to the surface and creating like an irony. >> I see it >> that that water quality swale we're going to try to keep that that breakout underground the perforated pipe as well. So what I is once air gets to it. So we're trying to keep that that breakout underground. So
>> it's really more aesthetic. >> It's no power. It's not like you know it's more like people see it and they're like oh but it's really >> it's only because it oxidized. >> Yeah. >> So we're trying to remove that oxidation by keeping on the ground. >> Right. So the monitor is really strong
which we're trying to you know convey and keep out of the eyes of uh you know keep it from coming actually. So >> okay what else you have anything else in particular you want to highlight on the project?
>> Uh I don't think so. I think just uh reiterate that the um the water poly swale is man-made. Um there was a question about whether or not jurisdictional um but it's it's a man-made swale. Um, as Tom mentioned, there's that groundwater breakout. Um, but it's um not next to any
jurisdictional areas. Um, so it's uh just wanted to kind of reiterate that that's not >> there is a leeching catch basin that we're going to be installing. >> It's going to be let's see >> right down to the right bottom right. Yes, >> there is a there is a catch basin
counter area >> that we're that we're converting into just just to capture more. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's just one other that we're including in the project. >> I mean, I I'm I'm in favor of the
project. I think it's great that we're kind of cleaning that area up and trying to treat anything we can treat before it enters the pond. So, I fish year round. So, I'm This is good. And I have been there and people who do know what they're looking at have said the same thing that that leeching that breakout.
It's no big deal but people are untrained. >> Yeah. >> The question that we just try we we try to just try to eliminate. >> Yeah. I think that's great. Anybody have any comments or anything? >> I do. Go ahead. Um
I've been on this commission. It's a lot that I can I was on it when they had it dredged when it was first done. >> Mhm. Now, downstream from that project, there's a little uh there's Mahoney Pond
and it's all by by a granite granite dam >> dates back to the 1700s. >> Have those people been notified of what this project's going to be? >> Uh so, as part of this project, we did not have the gutters um due to the
nature of how kind of limited this project was going to be. Um, so as as far as I know, I'm not sure if they were notified. Um, >> but I don't know. >> Yeah, they're not they're not touching this car. >> Yeah, but it's downstream.
>> Mhm. >> And it's >> it's across the street too, right? >> Oh, yeah. Across the >> Yeah. Will you say Mahoney? Is it Murdoch or Mahoney? >> Murdoch. >> Is it modern Murdoch? >> Murdoch. >> Okay. Murdoch. Sorry about that. Murdoch.
>> What? Go ahead. It's all right. Go ahead. >> Yeah. >> I I kind of live in the area. >> Yeah. >> And Murdoch Pond is above where Dun's Park is and it's I think it's more Mahoney that you're talking about. >> I think it might be. You're talking
about the one you told me that time down the street, right? >> Is in the middle. >> They didn't get notified. It was they ended up in the B. >> They ended up stopping the direction for a month, but they didn't notify people below. Yeah. >> Can you just double check that all the
property abuters have been notified? I mean, this technically wouldn't affect downstream. >> No, I know, but you know, >> you don't want to have what happened before happen now. That's what >> I think. All proper notifications were sent out. >> Yeah. Do you have the card?
>> We definitely >> So, this was um under the exception because it's um over 50 acres for the parcel. Um and so because uh the project area is limited to a small portion of the parcel um these are not required to stand
So I'm just reading this is an applicant who propo who proposes work solely within land under water bodies or waterways or solely within a lot with an area greater than 50 acres is required
to provide notification only to buters whose lots is within 100 ft from the project site. Correct. >> How many total acres are you working under? >> Uh gosh, off the top of my head, um it's
a very small portion of that 50 acre of um I believe the the law size itself is 250 acres. Is that um I know that we did include it in here. Um >> 132 acres. >> Okay.
So within 100 ft of the project area, um there are no cutters. >> I just don't know if I agree with that. I know that they CMR says that, but I I mean they already have some people that live in the area here. I guess the other thing I was going to
say is we don't have any comments back from DPR nor a um DP number yet. >> Correct. So it would be on kind of continuence anyways, but I'm going to see what deer says about that 310 CMR. >> Okay. >> I don't think it's a big deal, but you know, I think this past history in that
area and I think people should be notified. >> Okay. >> But we'll see what uh D has to say on that. But again, I think everybody's >> for the project. Um I have seen it cheating off myself. So, and then when
you know winter conditions, it's pretty bad coming down there in the spring. >> Yes. >> Anybody have any comments or anything? We're not going to continue. >> Oh, just think about being everybody being notified. >> Yeah.
Okay. And so I'd like to make a motion to um I think we make it to the 25th or should we go to the 8th? When do you want to do the job if it goes through? What's what's the timing of it? >> Uh Tom, I'll defer that to you. >> Uh fall depending on operational needs and like I have to coordinate with operations and make sure I'm not
disturbing the actual, you know, operations, but the fall >> September, October. >> So why don't we push it to the 25th and hopefully by then D has their comments and and um the slow. >> Yeah, they've been slow. >> Yes.
>> So, let's uh somebody like to make a motion to continue tonight's hearing to August 25th. >> I'll make that motion. >> Someone like to second that motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> when we do bring it back up, if there are any comments, that will be our time
to kind of talk about it. >> Reason why we don't dive into too much is the same comments concern. [Music] uh uh next under old business is 170 Mil Street.
Nick, you have any update on that you'd like to discuss? >> Yes, I do. Um I contacted State Representative John Slottnik. I asked for assistance for uh getting an update from Mass Dam Safety. He was able to get in touch with Mass Dam Safety and informed me they issued a notice of
failure to comply and with a certificate of non-compliance to the dam owner and that was issued on August 6, 2025. Um that is the most information I have. Uh Justin, I did want to ask when's what's the last we heard from the Dan owner?
>> Uh that was very long time ago. I'd say probably very early this year. What was that communication? >> It was it was just a walk by. I went on site and it was just a hi just to see
what I was doing and then that was pretty much it. >> Okay. Can you find out that date to send out with the commission? >> Yep. >> Thanks. >> Thank you, brother. >> No, that's all I have. >> Appreciate the effort. >> Thank you. Um, so like to make a motion to continue
that um 170 Mil Street to um say let's go to September 8th. >> I'll make that motion. September 8th. Yeah. >> So like to make that uh second that motion to continue to the eth. >> All in favor? Thank you.
>> New business nature trail update. Uh, go to route. So, the rock hasn't been blip is on that. >> They did say they do it, but they put a duration on it, right? >> Yep.
>> No, I don't believe they did. So, I'll look into that one. What did Ty and Bon say? Why there was no ballard put in place or anything at all? >> So when I reached out to Ty and Bond to see if a ballard was considered for the
original design for the for the entrance for the project. Um they said that a ballard was not part of the original design. They say why or just fill the need or is it >> Well,
according to the engineer, there are there are studies around that ballards aren't as safe as they were once originally thought. I think it's because if a biker or someone who's utilizing the trail was
to, you know, wipe out or something like that, you know, it would be >> smack into it. is smack into it potentially. Um they're just not considered as safe. So that's I guess that's the reason why it wasn't originally
considered >> and a rock is going to solve that. Is that what you're saying? >> I >> Well, something's going to solve it. >> I could I checked that before we did. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> What is someone confirmed that the opening to the trail is per the spec in
the drawings that that fitting where it fans out and meets the pavement is not wider than it should be. >> Um it's far as I know that the engineer wasn't concerned with it, but I can I can
double check again on that. Yeah. As for a final solution to limiting access to to the trail, I can continue to look into if the Ballard situation will be a appropriate final
thing to implement with. >> But in the meantime, you need a rock. You need something to block it. >> In the meantime, >> whatever you want to do at least until we figure out what >> something to block a car, >> something to block a car and not block a pedestrian or a bicycle. In the
meantime, I'll talk with DPW to see if we can get a more definitive timeline as to when we can get at least a temporary solution out there while we evaluate the final solution. >> Now, what's going on with the knob we
have um through the plastic? Um, the last time I went down there, which was a couple weeks ago, for that portion of the trail, it seemed like at least
part of it was poking through. I believe the consultant that was in charge of that particular spot said that that was due to potential wildlife interference.
um some tearing through and then allowing for photosynthesis to happen in areas where it shouldn't. But >> so what's the plan going forward? >> I >> who who owns maintaining that not least is no longer a grow issue. >> Can you check and find
>> I'll check to see if there's a warranty with that. Um as far as the property probably has a one-year warranty as a whole, but I >> Yeah. >> So it would be on that one year yet? >> I believe it would be. Yes. Um so um in the meantime the department has reached
out to the contractor at least about the vegetation portion of it um being the trees and and the grass because the trees as we noted last meeting were in pretty poor condition. Those are under
the one-year warranty. So >> but they maintain them for the first year. Is that what the agreement was? >> Yep. So contractor has to water and maintain it for the first year before trading it off. Um >> so they
so if they if the trees do fail then then they have to replace it. >> So we have to wait for that and not water them now. >> No. Oh no no no. A correspondence was sent out to the contractor to
to come up and take care of the trees. Otherwise, they'll have to replace them. >> What was the correspondence back? >> Quarantine. I didn't get the correspondence back. >> When was the notification sent? >> Um, week, week and a half ago. >> Follow.
>> Was there any funds held back >> post? Oh, post the grant closing. >> No, before Was there any retains released to the subcontract or the contractor debt perform? We I had asked that a while ago if they've been paid 100% with retains released.
>> I believe they were paid with all the payments that they were allocated. Yeah. >> Well, I mean that what sometimes they split up the retainage. So the last record released and then they usually hold retainage until the engineer of record releases the retainage which is
traditionally five or 10%. I believe it was 10% on this one. And sometimes engineers will hold that for six six months, 10 months, whatever. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Just find out. >> Yeah. >> What's going to make them come back and do it over because of the grant? Cuz a lot of
that money was because of the grant. If the grant closed out and the money wasn't allocated to anything, then the grant money would have evaporated. >> But doesn't the grant is the grant paid direct from the state to the subcontractor or the contractor or we take the grant funds? >> We take the grant funds. So then we
would have taken all those funds and we would have paid through um purchasing right those funds >> I believe >> who who signed off on all their all their requisitions that you or is that >> I don't sign off any of the financials
that's usually department head and >> I've been during transition though can just find out what's left >> if we're at least 100%. Okay. And you have their update on the trail. >> Uh yes. So we did have a visit with both
Tyenbon and National Grid um for the part of the nature trail that's closest to the substation. um you know because um from what information was given to me there
was the potential that certain communications weren't had through the planning process of the nature trail to to national grid. So, we met out to go and talk about, you know, what the
fate of that portion of the nature chair would would potentially be. Um, and what we came up with was because they still have to access those utility lines
for the purposes of their A1B2 project for their tap line and they also have to >> access it for, you know, routine maintenance stuff. So for now they've asked us to um work with them to move or
flush the signs at least until work can you know be completed. >> When do they start in A1 B2? >> I think for that tap they're looking to they want us to coordinate with them to get a lot of the space open for for the
end of November I believe. So, can the signs up until like a week before? >> Um, >> that didn't go. >> I I will I will get clarification on that from Jason, but um but they don't they don't want to remove
the trail. They do want to work with us to matt it and, you know, make sure that it's as well protected as possible um while they're doing their maintenance and other work that they're trying to do out there. So they weren't aware that we did a nature trail.
>> Certain parties weren't aware of to the extent the nature trail would have bicted that part of the corridor. So >> they weren't but their butter so they were notified that we have the car. So >> yes. Yes. But um but we did make a note
to make sure that communication moving forward to all the necessary parties will be a lot more airtight than what may have been in the past. So um we're working with them on that. Um as well as
um the other thing that was brought up during that was the culvert that is uptrail as well. Um they did say they want to talk with their environmental team a bit more about Brook
>> about the Pearly Brook Culver. Um time bond has also offered to help corral everybody and expedite the conversations that have to happen in order to move forward with this. I do not have a definitive date at this time
as to when that conversation is going to happen, but I will keep the commission posted as to when we'll be able to have a better gauge as to how that project is going to play out. >> Has anybody been out there to see what if anyone's put any more cones out like
we asked? Have you been out front? Have you had time to get out there? >> I I haven't. Um >> I I had I talked with the city city engineer. They're not going to do anymore. They don't want to be involved with it because of the liabilities. >> So they're not going to do any more
cones or anything? >> I I was under that impression. >> Okay. Wonder one more thing. To your knowledge, there was no funds held back for the for the for the maintenance of the trees at the plant. >> He doesn't know, so he's going to
confirm it. >> Yeah, I'll confirm. But the last time we went out there, that knotw weed that was pushing through was more than a foot high. So, I'm sure it's much larger now. And I kind of doubt that animals. >> I was told by the engineer the same
thing. What happens is they can hear it growing underneath the tarp and they think it's worms and they peck away. >> Oh, okay. >> This is right. >> But usually But usually our animals aren't attracted to >> Well, it's birds. >> Yeah. Okay.
[Music] Yep. So, just look into that now in the next meeting or send out some communication between now and the 25th meeting. Yep. >> All right. Next is 71 Kendall Pond East preliminary permit discussion. >> You're going to skip.
>> We just talked about, right? >> Yeah. >> That was the second half of that was >> Yeah. Yeah. to it. >> So, yeah. I was contacted by a um by a resident off of Kendall Pond uh because
um they wanted to incorporate um some beach sand onto their property. Um approximately 4 cubic yards. Um, and um, when I looked at the map of the parcel,
unfortunately I, you know, the HDMI cord might not be working, so I can't necessarily pull it up on on the computer, but um, so within, you know, the bounds of Kendall Pond, you know, you know, again, it's land under
water bodies and waterways. So the bank is the is the defining factor that creates the buffer zone. Um everything or the majority of the property is within the 100 ft of the buffer zone. Um
so adding sand, you know, is the equivocal activity of adding fill. So it would potentially be a, you know, it would need a permit. Um, as for the magnitude of the permit, I'm
still waiting on DP correspondence for the magnitude of the permit because, you know, beach sand is you're adding that type of fill um around that type of water body. It's a little infrequent when we get those types of
projects kind of thing. So, um, if it was a larger scale beach, it would be a category 2 NOI, but for this case, we're not quite sure just yet. So, I do have to wait for feedback from the D sur get a final
opinion on it, but I am going to be working to put together um an information packet on permits and condom for the for the property owner themselves kind of thing.
>> Maybe we should get something together to put on the um website about how to do this process at some point. mean it's a project we work on over the winter. >> I I think I think updating them that would be a good thing because we also
get a lot of >> we we do get a lot of questions as to the process and sometimes when you are going through the website too it is a little >> it it's a little wonky and a little Yeah, it's a little it's a little
>> Yeah, it's a little overwhelming to go through it like when you're a first time permit. So >> normally it's done in the winter >> the the >> the sand normally it's done a lot and
puts them out on the ice and it down and it does the thing. >> You can't you can't use soy beans either. >> So where do we stand right now? You're waiting for what? So currently I'm I'm waiting on D for um a final
determination as to um as to you know the magnitude that the permit will have to be. >> All right. So we're going to table 71. >> I believe we speak for a second. >> We did bring that up in the beginning of the meeting that there's two minutes to open discussion on
>> that. Go ahead. We'll let it go this time. That's kind of >> you realize that. >> Yeah, that's fine. Go ahead. What? What do you got? >> They might. They might. >> Well, no. I just wanted to tell you what our intent was >> because they're here to stay in the
water and we have no intention. >> Hold on one second. >> The homeowner. >> Okay. >> Yeah, they're they're relevant to the >> Yeah, that's fine. Go ahead. No, that's all right. So, it's just a little confusing. We're normally we don't get into all this new business. We don't get too much detail because it's not really an open hearing discussion, but Go
ahead. That's fine. No, we were going to do a little area that we sit on. There was no interaction with the water. I was going to use a 50ft water if they were just going to put 2 and 1/2 in base of masonary sand with saying 18 in
perimeter 18 in back from the water and there also is all shrubs and bushes against the water. It was just for the area we set it would be 25 by 15. That's total area >> just so we understand. >> Okay. Thank you. Yeah, we're waiting for
DB to give their kind of directive on it. >> Okay. >> And then we'll take it from there. But go ahead. >> Those those parameters actually help. >> Oh yeah, they do. That's pretty It's a lot better to know what that means. >> Yeah, that >> that's great information. >> I'll output that as well. So I I appreciate that. Thank you. >> No problem. Perfect. Um so we'll keep
you posted on that. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Um >> would you want to continue that? >> It's new business so it's really not a hearing. >> Okay. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Sound here. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yep. The next one is mass mass electric
utility maintenance notification. >> So they're basically doing some maintenance. Uh they consider no maintenance on existing facilities. >> So um do you have any questions on the Nico? I I don't have any question. >> I mean, they come before they always do
the right thing. They notify us. I don't think this is anything out of the ordinary. >> Yeah. >> And have they started that project? >> No, this not not yet. They'll be starting it very soon, I believe. But,
you know, this I believe they sent this to us mid to late last week. So I mean >> they're doing the following the process. They're giving us notification. We just got to keep an eye on it. >> Right. Yeah. And if there are any questions or comments then I can relay
it to the representatives from BC group to see if there's anything that is potentially concerning action itself. >> Okay. And then the next one new business is the agents report. Do you have anything you want to go over on the report? I sorry.
>> A1 B2 hasn't started yet. Huh? The other one hasn't started yet. A1 B2. Yeah, it hasn't started. >> No, I think they're still in a couple other permits that they need because of the scale of the project. Um, so I did
do a couple site visits through uh to go check on a couple of the projects that we did pass recently. um 68 Kia Road uh which I put the picture a little bit lower than I should have but um 68
Kia Road that the house is coming very far along so far construction um while they're made sure that the ocean controls were >> all good maintain they they their health is fine they haven't weathered really at all since their installation back when
they brought us out for the when they brought me up for a prework site check. Um, so everything's working very smoothly with that. Um, as far as the Keys Conservation Area, they did say that the equipment is on site and that
they are in the process of getting ready for work. I will be going out between this week and next week just to see how that's moving along. I do know again just due to the conditions that we gave to them that again there a couple moving
parts to that project. So just want to make sure that's off to a a good start. Um as far as yeah as far as um 71 kendal lease I am hoping to hear the final final word from
the um tomorrow. I'll actually make that my first priority to get back in touch with D tomorrow because I did expect communication back by today, but I'll just send a reminder out. >> I mean, is this this go to the water?
>> So, that eventually kind of ledges off and it kind of goes for a small dip before turns to water. It's not it's not it's not just a flat. >> Yeah, but we want their roof and asphalt going into the pond. Or should this go into some type of a
leeching drainage well of crushed on and dissipated into the earth? >> Yeah, I you know >> I think that shouldn't be gone right to the pond. >> Yeah, but I mean >> perhaps not. Yeah, that could
potentially be a discussion during that. >> Yeah, I think they should probably just put a crush and crush stone and have it kind of leech into the ground instead of just coming right off their I'm guessing it's asphalt, right? And then going right out into the pond. Just looking up the asphalt shingles here.
>> Yeah, take a look at that. Make sure you're out there, please. >> Yeah. Um then, yeah, I'll try to see what they think about when we come out with the permitting determination. Um yeah, other than that, um we'll be
expecting to get um at least one new RDA next week, um from Pocket 38 Park Street, which is the fishing gun. >> I'm going to continue to review that. >> Are we doing new business? >> Yeah. >> What's the latest on the removing of
renewing the culpits on Princeton Street? >> Princeton Street. the princess that off the top >> going going on to on to pack this what's this that's in this is the
next one out the next one I don't know the name of that road >> keys keys goes in >> oh the the big folder yeah the that one so we are
>> um getting our funding sources in line, you know, to prepare for, you know, prepare for the grant cycle so we can inevitably hopefully meet the match that's required in order to apply for a grant. Um, I'm also working with
Time Bond and our other associate parties to pin down a proper date for a public information panel so we can so we can reach out to the community with more information about the project that we're trying to get underway with it. Um, and
you know, then hopefully, you know, also see if we can engage for other letters of support as well, so we can have a better chance of having a successful grant cycle with that. >> Where's that green partner? >> The the large one that's off of that's off of Keys Road.
>> Yeah. >> That one is the main throughway for Wilderbrook to connect into Parker Pond. Yeah. So in order so turning the culvert into a bridge is the next step because
of the immense size of the culvert which obviously does >> you know that's that's what makes the project you know very very heavy so far is you know budgetary stuff that has to
the city in the past were I think >> has has have they done the engineering for that Yes, it's already like the planets already. >> So, what are they going to do? How they are I going to get how is everybody going to get if they pull the c all the all the con the old culit out they're
going to have to put another road in there with culvets a temporary road they do half the time how wide is the road >> for the for the big >> yeah that I mean that's
>> that's a standard road I I don't know >> but I think I think they've also played with the idea of doing this, you know, sectional cut off of the road like doing that. So, it would be reduced. >> That's what they typically do if they
have no weather outlet. They do half and half. >> Yeah. >> And then pump it around with like trash pumps or sump pumps and >> directly around. >> Yeah. as far as a permit for that major cover for the Wilder Brook. Yeah, that that that was one that has been passed
through the commission. So that still active and >> how many songs are active? >> Um assuming it's it has it has the extension of the leads act. It has the extra two.
>> You confirm it's going that I will you know there. >> All right. So I will yeah I will confirm that it is recorded so that way there are no permitting complications by the time that the project goes underway.
>> All right. Then going back to 538 Park Street Fishing and Gun Club. Do they have a time frame they're trying to meet? >> As soon as possible. Okay. >> Um yeah. I mean >> yeah it's it's as soon as possible. And
since finding out, you know, the project, you know, I've done my best to >> make sure that we get proper permit in place and get them lined up with the most applicable meeting as the submittals have come in. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. So, >> thank you. Any other new business that we haven't discussed? >> Um, I believe that that's that's all it's about it. The only other thing that I have to report is that um I was at the D central office today for a
freshman agent series that they've just implemented. Um this is for agents that had been in the field for a period of 0 to 3 years. So this is probably the closest to hands-on training aside from you know
being you know thrown in while the fire's hot kind of thing. you know that you know a lot of a lot of communities will you know kind of get so far as being you know with the regulators and having the necessary discussions while we better ourselves to you know make
more effective calls and also make it easy for you know make it easier for us and make it easier for the commissions that we also work alongside. >> Okay, great. >> Where's the office? So the central regional office is off New Bond Street
down in Worcester. >> Yeah. And it's a wonderful place to eat. So yeah, that that's all I got. >> Any other new business? No. Someone like to make a motion to close tonight's hearings?
>> I'll make the motion. So I have to second that. I'll second it. All in favor? I