Welcome everybody. Uh seems like somewhat of a light agenda tonight. So we will open up for public comment. Uh does anybody have any public comment for new information that's uh not for public uh vote? Mr. Chairman, I did uh for ease of
review I made some comments. So I'll just read this. earlier uh Avenue 211 Spring Road. Uh also I am on a bud to the sludge landfill with my property at 500.
First uh I want to thank you for keeping the garden sludge landfill enforcement order open and for continuing to monitor the situation. Bullet number two. I am concerned about DPW Director Dan Arnold's comments at the June 9th meeting two weeks ago
relative to the sludge landfill enforcement order. He did not have complete answers to your questions, including the new sludge landfill inspection reports that he provided to the commission. He did not present water or soils test
samples from al pipe 2 in the wetland south of this al pipe since the March 6th, 2025 incident. The landfill operator Viola was not present at the meeting as repeatedly requested by the commission. Viola has
not attended any of the meetings on the sledgeland for enforcement order. And lastly here, he is not prepared with a formal written plan and report to remedy the erosion and discharge problems at the sludge landfill. Bullet
number three, I continue to have concerns about the release of hazardous contaminants including PAS and 14 dioxide to my wetlands and ponds. Is the landfill leech collection system functioning properly to contain storm
water within the landfill liner? Does the commission have the requested leech daily flow data specifically from the sludge landfill? And I would add not the combination of solid waste landfill and sludge landfill. That particular
landfill I saw some something around 400 gallons a day for both but most of it from the other landfill. There should be substantial leeching when you get substantial rain or something not functioning. And lastly, if the commission has not yet heard from Mass D, I recommend that the commission
formally request in writing that Mass D review and provide a report on design, functionality, and operations and maintenance of the garden sled. Thanks. Thank you.
Anybody else? Any other public comment? Thank you. on the agenda the meeting minutes for June 9th. Would someone like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes of June 9th?
I'll make that motion to add something to that. Amendments. Um it's kind of important. Um the um for the 360 terrace um we did decide to have them leave the logs and brush behind and not So, you want to just amend the meeting minutes and vote on them again next
week? Yeah, I can do that. Next meeting. Okay. So, we're going to table the meeting. Someone would like to make a motion to continue the meeting minute [Music] to um July 14th. Someone second. Second. All in favor? I thank you.
Uh no request for compliance. um the enforcement order um the sledge landfill. We did receive additional reports from Dana Arnold um from 3:31 through 6:23 and um haven't had a time to review
those. I got those today around 1:00. Uh did flip through them earlier uh right before the meeting. They're pretty uh similar to what we've been seeing with a little bit more um handwritten notes on them and some some more comments.
Um which is nice and it talks about some rain on the 14th here on the six on the June 16th meeting. Um but uh Justin, do you have anything further to add on this? Um no, I also haven't had a lot of time to review it because it was just
sent to us today kind of thing. Go ahead, Dave. Were there um additional fails on there? There are still instances where it says pass and fail at the same time. Yeah. But some fails. Yeah. Well, I and I think what what I'm
thinking happens is somebody goes out there and says top ponding and they check cuz it's failing and then they go back and pass. I think that's cuz a corrective action occurred. But we're waiting for clarification on if that's what's happening. And I alluded that to Dane. Okay. Um because it it could be
that oh it's the stock piles failed they went out and fixed it and then someone else writes past but the explanation needs to be there as well. So we're waiting for clarification on that. Sounds like it needs attention. Yeah, it needs attention as opposed to Yeah, I think the discussion reports need to be
a lot better than what they are most closer to a swift type. Uh, but the notes on there seem to be getting better and better on the I don't know if you can see them, but there's a lot more dialogue that we used to get, but we're still waiting for
I got to read through these all again, but but it does say like on this one, Austin cleaned up the fence, the rain, the noraster on 522. Um, this one doesn't have any fails, but it looks like there's a little bit more on
this one. says Saturday again rain, but I haven't had a chance to read every single one of them. So, we'll uh get get back on that next next meeting on the 7th on the uh 14th and also
um we need to Yeah. Yep. And also um Justin, did you reach out to D again? Um it's called twice within the time but and left messages both times but did not get a response from the representative that I
okay I mean go ahead I I think we need a different approach we need some answer for them even if it's I'm busy getting nothing not appropriate we do registered mail I'm
saying registered mail something I mean if they're not going to answer us. I I truly don't understand it. I don't know if they'll accept registered mail, but um why don't we send them an email? Why don't you and I we can draft it up this week and get it out to them and we'll copy the commission. I just don't think
they'll take a registered mail. Yeah, I'm trying to think of somebody. I'd like that. It sounds good, but I don't think they'll sign it. But I feel like this is beyond just kind of like, oh yeah, they're busy. I This is unacceptable with zero. It's ghosting. Well, it is. How about this? We email
and we take the email. We registered mail and I think um something similar for the next one couple of them down the list here but um because we never even got any comments from about the event itself. Nothing. It's odd. You heard Dane. He doesn't understand. No, I get
it. I'm not even blaming him for that. Yeah. No, I'm just saying it's like we're all in the same boat. We're all waiting for some type of dialogue how we're going to handle the situation. Right. It's the same situation I had with the golf course where DP is not replying. Yeah. Yeah. So you'd like to make a motion to
continue to 7:14. I'll make that motion. So like to second that motion. I'll second it. All in favor? I opposed though. Uh 36 Nicole Terrace. Um we're expecting to hear back from them on 7:14, right? With an update. Yep. All
right. Some like to make a motion to continue that to 7:14. I'll make that motion. Somebody second that motion. Second. All in favor? I. Same thing with 282 Brookside Drive. Um they're working through it and wish to get another update on the 14th. Someone like to make
the motion to continue to sub4. Make that motion. Uh second [Music] you wasn't Wasn't she supposed to get back to you when she was going to replant?
Well Well, so that was what was commented on last time. um because commission felt that the size of the trees was insufficient given the given the amount of disturbance. Um in light
of the comments from last meeting um they ended up going out and buying seven more trees more so towards the caliber that was desired between four and 10 ft. So So yeah,
that's fine. Okay. Someone like to make the motion to continue. Sorry. 282 Brookside Drive. I'll make that motion. Some like a second. Second. I'll second it. All in favor? I uh 170 Mil Street. Um kind of take the same stance as we did before on the
enforcement order. Um we'll write another email. I did reach out for another response. Have not received one yet, but um we'll type up another email. Maybe we'll print it out the long list of the email chain and certify mail that to them as well.
Maybe wait a couple meetings maybe. I mean, or does that have to be the next meeting to continue it? It seems silly between each meeting. Well, I mean I continue for a month.
I don't It's up to you guys. So, we were writing a letter to the landowner tomorrow. No, to ask safety. Oh, okay. Right. Yeah, we I've actually kept the same email log dating back to when we first had this issue. So, it would show the transgression of Okay, you want to I
would like to do it every every two weeks because makes sense. Yeah. I don't want to get away with something that Paul didn't hear from me for like All right. So, make a motion to the 14th. I'll make that motion. Someone to
second. I'll second that. All in favor? Hi. All right. All right. New business nature trail update. How's it looking out there? Um, it's looking a little bit better. Um, I'm going to be going out with Kyle Bond and
Emma Partlo, the contractor on Thursday for a final sitewalk and to also take a look at the punch list items that they are going to be wrapping up this week. They will include the signage
that um, we've been waiting them to do and they're also going to be finishing up plantings and, you know, fixing minor blemishes to the trail as well kind of thing. Um, and then we'll do a final initial assessment of, you know, where
the site currently is. And I think after that it'll be the season of monitoring and then seeing where it lands from there. Um, I I just I just had a comment. The guy said to me, he says, "Hey," he says, "I knew I didn't know it was a road that went down too big." I
said, "That's not a road. It's it's the bike path." Oh. Oh, boy. Why are they planting the new trees? Um, they should be that should be done by the time that I walk on there. They should be almost wrapped up by the time I walk on site on Thursday morning. All
right. What's the watering plant once they do plant those? Who's responsible to water and maintain them? So, they till they take I will double check. I feel like it should be partially the consultant and the contractor for a period of time and then the city will take over eventually. That's That's my
I'm good. Yeah. Find out and let us know. Thank you. Good job. Yeah. Um could you check the um notweed Oh, yeah. issue. That can get out of hand quick. One of them. It's popped through. There were Yeah, there were a number of things
that popped through and around the edges of the covering that they have there. Yeah, that's one thing that really Yeah. um the specialist that they had hired to take care of that was supposed to tend
to that at some point. So yeah, find out what the update is. We'll get an update on that as well. Yeah. Okay. Anything else on the nature trail? Nature trail. Um no, do you happen to have a sign what they look like or a picture of? Um
I think they send to Jeff. That's I think slightly different than the ones that are cross thing. I think these ones are bright red, you know, that also say public water supply and then activities that are, you know, prohibited. Yeah.
So, but I can I can go through sign every 50 ft. Every 50 ft as well. Okay. Yeah. Along the fence only, right? On the whole trail. I think it's only on. Um, and then moving on to Pearly Bull
work failure. So, can you describe Does everybody know where we're talking? Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I forget what date I put on the actual board. He kind of Yeah. Um, so
I've received a call from a concerned resident um because they were experiencing um a bit of flooding in their backyard. Um I mean even after looking at the maps and
seeing that the mass mapper shows that part of the property falls under land subject to flooding and stuff. Um what the director of board of health and I found when we were there it it was a bit excessive so far as flooding. So, we
um were told that there was a culvert collapse nearby and after talking with both the homeowner and with DPW, we found that it was the culvert that's by the upper switch station by 140 that pearly broke crosses
in order to feed into the reservoir. Um it is a what seems to be a partial collapse. Um, and as a result of the high aging, high volumes of water and
just a lack of maintenance over the course of its lifespan, you know, it was it seemed like it was on borrowed time um to begin with. So, um, there is a little bit of backflow as a result of
that. Given we haven't gotten as much rain the last week, we're hoping that it kind of goes down a little bit. But we're working with National Grid to figure out our game plan to figure out how we're going to excavate and replace
and D has also been notified. Um and we're in talks with them on as to which permitting is going to be required as a result of this cuz it the full scope of of removing the material then
um then replacement it's it can't all be fit under an emergency certification. It might have to also be followed up with a notice of intent as well. Talk about the easement too. Um, why don't we keep it in house? Call it maintenance.
Talk about these because national grid owns up past that part of the national is a national easement through that kind of thing. So, we have to kind of work in collaboration. So,
yep. But we we are working on we're just waiting on a little bit more correspondence to occur that we have a game plan. And has National Grid been notified? Yes, National Grid has been notified. The environmental permitting team has also been notified and their
design team as well. Sorry for my own education. So you can't use emergency orders because the the magnitude of the earth removal that has to be done. Uh believe well because you'd be you'd be extracting from an OW
kind of thing or outstanding resource water. So it's one of those things that's got to be backed up by a bit of paperwork. again and and again cuz it's that it's that double-edged sword cuz it's like you you want to do a lot to help the situation because it's the
drinking water but because it's the drinking water you also have to take a lot of extra precautions and a lot of extra steps before implementing the potential remedy. Okay. So, yeah. So, we'll keep us posted. I I will. Yep. You
guys all know where this is, right? I mean, yeah. Um, yeah. And DP toad DPW also blocked off the trail, too. So, to avoid any chance of, you know, people accidentally traversing over there. And,
you know, should probably make sure that that ropes to the the caution tape stays up. Yeah. Is somebody out there looking at it and making sure? I believe so. I'll definitely check with Dane to make sure that, you know, we're doing this periodically enough where that's not
going to be a major concern. All right. The other thing I want to make sure that we're when we do where does this drain into and what's is it being held up on the other end of this somewhere too? Do you mean like like when when this when we fix the issue when all this is
going to seep somewhere? What's going to happen downstream? Like where these See where these trucks are? Doesn't it go around to the left a little bit out in back there? Go. That's upstream, right? It goes Yeah. Yeah. All the the flooded area is upstream. So, it should be all
right. I just That's a lot of water. It's going to go somewhere at some point. Yeah. I believe it'll gradually did dissipate. Can we take a 10-minute recess? [Music] Sorry. Apologize.
We need to laugh. We have to talk. All right. Moving on. National grid notification um vegetation management plan. We all got the letter. Pretty standard for what they give us. You have any comments or questions on it? I don't think so. I don't.
Okay. Thank you for that. Um, next one is the MACC yearly dues. So, we need a vote to approve the 385 for the conservation u from the conservation account to cover membership which is all the commissioners and its
agent. Um, we have plenty of money in the funds to do that. We all pretty much use MACC and attend the seminars. So, someone like to make that motion to approve the 35 expensure. I'll make that motion. Second. All in favor? All right.
Make sure we update the names cuz Yeah. The other thing you might want to redistribute is um contact information so everybody can log into electronic. Yes. Yep. Yep. I'll make sure that everybody's emails are good and I'll
make sure to email you guys just so I have your preferred phone numbers too because they also ask for sure that. So it's good to get in and log in and get the other data that's available. Yeah, absolutely. Great stuff. And if you guys ever order resources and stuff like that, I think they want your guys' addresses in case you guys want like,
you know, a book on on whatever interests you under the, you know, under what we kind of take care of here as a commission. So, y update on professional development. Um,
so as you guys know, I've been going through a certificate program. um actually multiple uh one of them was for sustainable water management under the non-global STGS or sustainable development goals. Um and this past
weekend I not only completed my second final exam but also the third to complete the over-encompassing certification for sustainable water management. So cool. Yep. Great. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. Anything else coming up
you want to tape or is it all uh there's a long list. It's gonna be it's not going to fit on one piece of paper but um but but yeah um when uh there there's also another workshop under the UNH certificate program that
I'm probably going to be taking in early August. Um this is going to be for I believe it's um soil genesis and soil mapping um which is one of their core courses. The core courses are a lot less likely to be redone in a certain time
span than their electives. So it's best that I kind of jump on it while while the fire is still hot kind of thing. Um, and uh, yeah, I'm just really excited to continue to learn a lot more and get a lot more focused into, you know, the
sciences that we look at. Um, and I do have one other minor minor update um, on the um, rendition of the filing system that been working on. So, um, again,
when I got here, you know, the city gardener or the consecration files, it was sorted in a, you know, in an in an interesting way or a way that was kind of interesting to me, you know, and, you know, a building
department typically does it under street file stuff, but for our perview, that type of system doesn't always work I think for interdep department collaboration it would but for just logistically being able to find things
and handle due process the way that we do whether it be you know fulfilling public records requests or whether it's keeping track of the phases of different projects from beginning to end. Um it
it was like finding a needle in a hay stack for certain things. Um, so what I'm doing right now, I've found most of the folders. We've sorted them out numerically by D case file. Um, so most
of them are already in order and already back in their filing bins, which they call home kind of thing. The next step is creating the new kind of almost like a dichomous key based system where you know there's one master list and then in
order to find each project phase you just go into that one case file number and then you automatically have NOI order conditions and then close out phase of that. Um once I've extracted
all the data from that from all the different folders they're already in and re and just resorted those. Um then we'll start the pretty large digitizing effort for all the missing documents and then
we'll have a complete file setup which will then be followed up by the actual new matrix which you'll be able to refer to through the Excel page that we'll have so you have all the necessary information you have to go find the file
that you need to find. So, yeah, it's going to be a little bit of work, but um so far as creating all the folders, it says I got to case 450. We're at case 590 out of 680 now. So, we're we're
we're close to finishing out phase three out of three out of five. So hopefully we'll have this. Yeah, hopefully we'll have this new system up and running really soon. So, you know, again, and you know, I want to be
here for I I want to I want to work here in the city for as long as I as long as you'll have me kind of thing. But, you know, say one say one day I do have a successor, like you know, five or 10 years down the line kind of thing. you know, I want this to be a system that,
you know, the person will automatically be comfortable with using so they don't have to, you know, potentially go through the same hardships that their predecessor did in order to like make the system work. So, yeah, it's great. Thanks for Yeah, it's really good. Best
happens in the weekends only, right? This part and and and when the hearings are a little bit light, Um, upcoming meetings are the 14th and the 28th. Um, just to kind of pass this out there. If you're not going to make a meeting, let us know as soon as you can so we can make sure we have a quum,
especially coming through these summer months. So, anybody have anything further they like to discuss? No. No. So, make a motion make a motion to end tonight's meeting. I'll make that motion. Somebody second. Second. All in
favor? I. Thank you. Have a great night. Meeting.