All right, good evening everybody. Let's get started. First on the agenda is public comment. Anybody in the audience have any public comment? >> Nope. Moving on. Meeting minutes. Would someone like to make a motion to approve? >> I'll make that motion. Approve minutes of
>> 128. >> 128. >> 128. >> Someone to second that motion. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? I abstain. >> Yep. Someone is approved. uh request for certificate compliance for 30 Foster Court. The first one on
the agenda is D160 0335. Just want to just give us a brief synopsis of that. >> Yep. Uh so 30 foster court um recently went through a property owner change and
while that process was going on um associate parties picked up that there were a couple outstanding orders of conditions from the early 2000s. Um and the first one is um DP
160335 which was the original land preparation. Um it's done under an ANRAD and then um preparing for the actual building of
all the separate lots. Um the second one was DP160 0362 which was the actual building of the house lot for 30 foster court or lot two on the old plans. Um
given that a lot of the businesses and associations that you know brought that development into existence are some of them are disbanded. It was hard for them to come up with all
the documentation that we typically look at. But after observing, comparing the original plan to um the GIS and also conducting a site visit, I was able to confirm that things were built to
>> built an approximate spec. Yeah. >> No, it's a single house. >> Yeah. A single single family dwelling. Yeah. So it um because case 335 is a you know it was a overall
encompassing lot with multiple lots in play. Um we just have to keep track of the other lots that may still be outstanding. >> Can we send them a letter all those other lots or corresponds or something
about it? >> I think once we make a Once we once we look at all the ones that are still outstanding, I think we could generate a letter just to notify current property owners that there is an outstanding order on on their houses. Um
so that way we can get closer to doing an overall um compliance order for all of them. Uh but for right now um I would recommend that it would be a partial certificate of compliance just
>> just because it is one of many. Um as for the one for law 2 itself or 30 foster court if the commission finds it fit I would say that potentially a complete
certificate compliance would be appropriate. And it's kind of similar to what was the other ones, the other road um for by the gun club. Same thing. There's a couple out there that had that same issue. >> Demix properties and all those houses he built.
>> Yeah. >> So the so the other lots have not been built. Correct. >> Um well I mean so the whole sub the whole development was built. It's just that the none of the none of the or compliance orders or the
certificate compliances were sought after after everything was built. So, >> it's so such a shame because they have the process in the building department. Everybody has to sign off. They just go ahead and >> Yeah. I mean I mean it happens >> statewide more more times than people
think. You know, a lot of times things get built and you know, depending on you know, people forget sometimes or or if certain entities dispand before certain steps of the way, it gets lost in translation. Or if [clears throat] you
have two or three homeowners parted from the original homeowner, it, you know, it gets lost in translation till somebody >> who why are we discussing this now? >> Someone's trying to sell their property. some because a property transaction.
>> Yeah. You can't get a >> so >> clear title. >> Yeah. >> All right. Some like to make a motion to approve a partial uh compliance on the land which is the 0335. >> I'll make that motion. >> Some to second that motion. >> I'll second it.
>> All in favor? I mot approve for partial. And then on uh the DP 160 0362 which is law two that's the house from what we understand it is in compliance. Uh so like someone like to make a motion to approve a full certificate of compliance
for >> Yes. I'll make that motion. >> Someone like to second that motion. >> Second. >> Thank you. All in favor? >> I was approved. just up for us to sign later right there.
>> Enforcement order sledge landfill. That's our next meeting on the 26th 35 Nicole Terrace. That's May 11th. Same thing with 282 Brookside Drive. That's continuence to May 11th.
on 31 Travelers Street. Um they've asked for a continuence to 29 to gather more information and to get it surveyed. Would someone like to make a motion to approve a continuence to 29? >> I'll I'll make that motion. >> Someone like to second that motion. >> Second it.
>> Thank you, Brian. All in favor? >> Is approved. The next on the notice of attendance 827 Green Street, the gardener conservation commission will join public hearing under MGL chapter 131 section 40 wildland protection act and city of gardener wland protection ordinance and
notice intent followed by filed by McCarthy and engineering on behalf of gamma for proposed construction of a building associated park utilities at 827 green street. It's map R42-21-1. Portions of the proposed worker set
occur within the wetlands buffer zone of several nearby resource areas. It's D160 0681. This a continuence from um I don't know what's the continuing date. Would you know what that is? >> December 8th. >> The 8th >> December 8th. >> Wow. Huh.
>> Thank you. >> How you doing? >> Good. How you doing? >> Good. you want to just kind of give us a brief update and summarize what where we stand today? >> Yes. For the record, Wesley Cliff McCarti engineering uh stated we were in front of you in rates. Uh about a week
and a half before then we received the comments from D. We made the revisions to those plans and the drainage analysis at that time knowing that at the last meeting the commission u and also the planning board which we had the meeting the night afterwards wouldn't have enough time to review it. We presented
all the updated uh information to the commission at that meeting knowing that uh you guys needed time to review it but also have all he's a city engineer review the updated calculations and plans. Uh he has since done that. He sent over an email today to Justin was
CCed on an email today saying that he was comfortable with the updated plans and drainage information that was done to take care of his comments but also D's comments. So, we're just here tonight to hopefully >> uh answer any last questions that you may have on it and then uh hopefully we can wrap it up. I know we were in front
of you, I think, starting back in November. So, we've had a few meetings and had a chance to walk the site and um >> yeah, >> had made some small revisions to the plans, but really, you know, biggest items were the calculations just to make sure that we made the revision the calculations that DP was asking for.
>> And I can show you call plans if you need to see the plans again on the TV. I can I can do that. But I don't really have I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't see the email that was sent today. Um who was that from? >> It was just a quick correspondence between um Rob West and myself.
>> So Rob, who's the city engineer? >> Okay. And so he had just had a chance to review everything and just wanted to send an email out to Justin and Jason Stevens who's the planner [snorts] >> because we have the plan to go meeting tomorrow night also. Hopefully that we'll close that up tomorrow night also >> and at least take care of this part of the project. uh we will probably meet
back in front of the commission depending on what happens with the public water supply and so under a separate entity that's getting completed uh the public water supply process will get done and so we will probably be back in front of you at some point with that depending on where that gets cited um
because there is numerous wetlands on that property probably at least to get the line to the building probably be in the buffer zone to get the line to the building I'm not sure where that well is going to get set up until they do their testing um through D's process But uh that is starting to get done. Uh that
process is starting to get going with uh with a different entity. So >> Okay. So planning board's waiting on us I assume. >> So the planning board was just waiting on Rob also for him to have a chance to review it. Like I said we were in front of them the night after we were in front
of you. Right. So the same thing. They didn't have enough time to review everything. >> They were comfortable with the changes. There wasn't a lot of changes to the plans. It was more the calculations, just making sure they made changes the calculations and some of the narrative and then they were just waiting on Rob also to make his uh review of the plans
and stuff like that. So we that's why he sent that email over today cuz he knew we were in front of you guys tonight and in front of the plane board tomorrow night and he wanted to make sure that you guys had that so you can make a decision. Anybody have any questions or comments? when you, you know, gone around and
around and answered everything. Wes has been, you know, supportive of our questions and concerns and [clears throat] anybody in the audience have any questions? >> No. >> Thank you. Someone like to make a motion to close the hearing.
>> I'll make that motion to close the hearing for 827 Green Street. Green Street. >> Want to second that? >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. Hi. >> I I think we're good to go. I don't know if there's any other order conditions or
anything that we should apply to it or >> I think the only asked was the on and I think right that was the only thing that was asked to be added to the the order. I think that was as part of that process. >> Okay. DP's coming. So, >> yeah. Yeah. >> We did talk about it. >> Yes.
>> Yep. You >> good with all that? Yep. >> See much? Anybody else? And you've been out there a bunch. >> It's okay. >> So, I'd like to make a motion to approve order of conditions, standard order of conditions, and um some additional
comments and and verbiage returning to the operations and maintenance of the project once it's it's built. >> I'll make that. >> So, I like to second that. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I was approved. Thank you. Thank you. >> He was um I'll be in contact with you in
the coming days to sort of finalize the >> issue. Awesome. >> 677 Tany Boulevard. They have asked for a continuence as well. Would someone like to make a motion to approve the continuence to 12626?
>> I'll make that motion. >> Want to second that motion? >> Second. >> Make all in favor? >> I. Someone is approved. uh 170 Mil Streets continue to the 26th. I'm going to come to uh new business, the park ramp for all of our case
playground updates. We want to talk about the park grant really quick. >> Sure. Yeah. I received this um response from director Stevens last week. Um city received a grant to help replace a lot
of the park equipment. that is at all the case. Um I believe the amount is about a4 million dollars. Um and under the relevant um boards and commissions
um conservation is one of the primary ones that can you know serve as a signatory in order to continue the process in you know acquiring and implementing the funds received through this grant system. So
yeah, and I did did a look at the site for remote and on foot. Um there are no cataloged resource areas on the site or directly on the site. Um and
the blueprint itself isn't changing in any way that would at least in my professional would [clears throat] create a cause for concern of proximal jurisdiction. >> Yeah.
>> So they just this is the site that had the old wooden playground. >> Yeah. [clears throat] And so are they changing the footprint of the cleared area at all or not? >> I believe the blueprint is going to be about the same. It's just
Yeah, I I think the only thing is just replacing the the wooden the old the old the old wooden playground with something that's a little bit more um a little more friendly, a little less, you know, potential for splinters and stuff. >> That's the best playground. >> I take my kids away with math to go to
cuz it was the coolest place ever. I I used to go to a couple room ones myself back in the day, but again over time sometimes these degrade to a point where you know >> but yeah so I believe >> so we need to make a motion to um
approve some signatures on it. >> Yeah. >> Would someone like to make a motion to approve the acceptance of the park grant for Olivia case? >> I'll make that motion. I'll second it. >> Thank you. All in favor >> is approved. You think we can all fit in
fit in there? I I they're four lines, but I know that we can make it work. [laughter] >> I have trouble spanning the lines. >> Yeah, >> the big back ray on [laughter] page three, right side. Yep. >> Yep.
>> Yeah, you're right there. You're right. >> You're right. >> Oh, >> oh. Oh, or >> Yep. Uh, next under new business is the Massachusetts electric mo utility notification. >> Uh, yeah. get [clears throat]
>> um so this one is along >> LC is >> Yeah. And this is the one that's I believe around East Broadway where they're doing a
single they're doing a single replacement of a of utility pipe within the within the right of way. um with with associated you know trimming and maintenance if
there is tree branches or other vegetation that could interfere with services provided um as it is you know a pole project um and is it is considered maintenance
under >> so really just notifying us is nothing to vote or anything but making us aware of further standards. Yeah, this is a Yeah, this is notification. >> Just a maintenance project. Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, it's not a >> Okay, you got to just keep an eye on
that for us. >> Yep. I'll I'll keep an eye on that, too. Um >> Okay. In the next one on the new business, um, everyone probably received a notification um, from city council president Tyrros
regarding the reorganization of the commission. And um basically he's saying that as a result of a re uh recent ordinance change that the city adopted by city council in early 2025, all boards of commissions must hold an organizational meeting every January to
vote for the office positions of their respective boards commissions unless explicably stated otherwise in chapter 7. So, they're saying on here that every board commission is required to have at least a chair and vice chair, but may have other positions based on how the boards and commission have operated in
the past, a requirement set by the ordinance. So, as we're all aware, and Duncan's been on quite some time, we've only ever had a chair. We never had a vice chair. No, >> we never had a We also never had a um >> only we had years ago was the secretary and and the chairman.
>> Yeah. I don't know what happened with the secretary. Uh she's still alive. >> [laughter] >> I set myself up for that. >> Oh, she is. She's 92. >> I set [laughter] myself up for that. Okay. >> Are the chairman still alive? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> 10 years, 8 years, whatever it was. >> So, um, in order for us to satisfy this request, would someone like to um nominate anybody for chair that's um present? >> I'll nominate two for chair. I can't
really vote for myself. So, would someone like to um Anybody else interested in being chair? >> It's a real popular. [laughter] >> Um would someone like to uh make a motion to second that nomination? >> I'll make that motion. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
>> You sure? [laughter] >> I'll second the motion. >> I can't I can't vote. So, it's someone like to uh nominate with the vote to nominate myself as chair. I can't vote unless abstain. >> I'll I'll make that motion to continue
the vote. >> All in favor? >> I so move is approved. Thank you. >> Thank you for being chair. >> Thanks for supporting everybody. I appreciate your time. Uh the next is the other one for New
England Power Company. Um utility maintenance notification. I think that's the cover, right? >> Yeah. So this is a notification from National Gridland Power um which goes
over um a potential plan for the replacement of the early brick. Um, thank you. I will take that. Um so in the current timeline it talks
about how they want to clear the debris and all and basically um repair it so it is functioning for a period um in which you know they can perform you know their
larger scale project which is the an A1 B2 and and switch station line. um and then proceed to later down the road come back with a more permanent
solution um for for for a final structure. Um I did um have I did have a quick correspondence with D at one point but I haven't
received further correspondence um just because you know since the original collapse of the culvert it has been it has been quite some time um and
even though and you [clears throat] know under this letter it is proposed as maintenance work um given the fact that it is work within within an LRW um one of my potential
concerns is you know given D's past determinations [clears throat] on how to apply projects that are within those setbacks um you know I'm I'm hesitant to classify it as just
maintenance. Um I you know I might propose asking um a question for both D and for national grid as confirmation as to whether maintenance is considered a valid classification for
this as you know in other circumstances I think that it you know may be considered you know more permittable um action [clears throat] rather than rather than that. Yeah, I mean I'm reading this in conclusion. It says the
work will occur, activities will occur in RFA VVW 100 footbw inland bank 60oot no build 30 foot no build sp and this isn't just some little thing
they're just kind of doing in the middle of the woods here. >> Yeah. And then >> and then doing it hold on then doing like a little bit of maintenance and maybe it'll be fixed later. Why don't we fix it right the first time? It was a safety concern, >> especially since they're going to bring
in heavy traffic to do the poles. >> Yeah. I mean, I think we >> Yeah, you know, but but I mean the CO itself, you know, some little kids riding a bike could really get themselves banged up then. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, it's been a while and they decided to all of a sudden fix it. Yeah. I think we'd proceed with
letting Justin contact D and grid to give a better synopsis of why they consider this maintenance and not a redesign and re-engineer and reconstruct instead of just considering your maintenance. That sounds good. >> But if it's maintenance done, >> excuse me, >> if it's maintenance, right, it'll be it
can be done quicker. >> Yeah. So, but the thing is problem is if it doesn't fit the definition is the only because >> well weller they haven't done anything for how many months >> right right >> but now they and they want to temporarily repair it right
>> yeah it's temporary measures to stabilize and allow for allow for proper access um to the area in question >> you know the big thing is the water
going underneath They call it is our water supply. >> That's Brooks. >> That's where the state bar. >> I don't know what they're going to say. >> You want to draft up some correspondence and send it out to us and then, you know, a couple of us can read it or all of us send it back for, you know,
modifications and >> Yeah, I can. >> Yeah, draft it up and then we can all just respond by email. Hey, I like this. Change that and go. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Do we have to vote on that? Probably not, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. And we have >> It's a question. It's not We're not
>> Yeah, we're not doubting it. We're glad they finally want to fix it, but >> it's a little bit more than just >> Well, a little bit more is the public water supply. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, let us know. >> Yep. >> And then you want to go over your agent
report? >> Um, sure. Let me see if there's anything new. So, let's see. Um, >> as far as approved projects, um,
let's see. Um, the the Chance Beaver Dam um, off of or on Mahoney Brook that's goes behind the bus depot. That's the one that the DPW had requested a emergency certification for in order to prevent
flooding and inundate inundation of sewage infrastructure. Um that one was removed and um from my observations in the field last week, it was done with the most
caution that I've ever seen in people. Um yeah, just because there was no They took a lot of care to not disrupt, you know, the bank. >> Um, >> who did the work? >> Uh, I guys. >> Yeah, I believe it was I believe it was
um the water superintendent, Mike, and andor one of his um their colleagues. No, they did they did a good job on it. >> Nice. >> So, that's the second time they've had to clear that. >> So, it's Well, that section is the first time. So, the
>> the previous one is down. The previous one was and I apologize for not having GIS. So there's multiple weapon systems near the Linus Lane with Chance um
industrial lot. Um, so you got Mahoney Brook, which is channeled and goes right behind most of the properties. And then you have a um and then you have
vegetated pond that's on the other side of one of the other one of the other businesses that's out there. And the brook main channel has a small sister channel
helps fill the pond and then exfiltrates into a couple other bordering vegetated wetlands and then eventually roots back into Mahoney Brook. The first one was at the at the downstream side of the pond. That
one was done last summer. I I believe that's all the other one the other beaver dam by the time I was informed of it was probably less than a month old and that one was in the main channel where all the
>> water converts. So it was it was probably about 3 ft higher than typical water level and they removed it before it >> before it got you know higher. I mean,
at what point do they consider um requesting a trapping situation or be a receiver? And I don't even know if that be receiver work in that application. >> I mean, we'd have to evaluate it. I mean, I think it would work more in the >> river channel than it would on the pond
side kind of thing. But >> what do they do for pawn side on that? What would they do? >> Trap. >> I'm not sure. Yeah, they potentially trap. Um but again the trapping is a >> different situation >> different process. I think mo that
mostly goes through board of health and that goes through well >> we sign off on those too right >> for trapping permits I think that's >> it goes through public health >> it goes through public health >> I remember we signed off on some of that I mean >> we requested it maybe that's what >> yeah it ends up there right yeah
>> yeah um yeah and >> you take those beavers home with you right in your backyard >> yeah that's the reason I don't have any trees in my yard anymore [laughter] >> but uh >> so it's Let's just keep an eye on it. >> I'll keep an eye on them and yeah,
depending on how much activity we see in the coming months. Um, >> they're still pretty active right now. Anybody know? >> I I think I I don't think so. >> They're not active in the winter, are they? >> Yeah, they are. Are they? >> But the thing is, you know, all the air
be the BA eating all the food supply is gone. They come in and they rebuild the dam and then they realize that they have nothing to eat and they >> but it keeps going on. It keeps, you know, that the next generation of kids come, you know, >> the the parents kick them out after
they're 6 months old and they go to find a pond. Well, they find one and they rebuild the dam, which is natural, but the their food supply is gone. So then they move on, you know. >> Yeah. >> Until they find a disruption with flow or they find more flow than what they
[clears throat] >> are considered ecosystem engineers. So, you know, they have an act for it. Um the other um approved project so um DP um 16078 or the Mount um
old duck pond dam project. So they finished installation of the of the stream crossing >> looks pretty good. >> Yep. Uh the only thing that I noted when I was out with the engineer last which
is right before the holidays um was that though the ground is mostly frozen um you because of a lot of the vegetation clearing that had to happen in the preamble to the installation of the stream crossing. Um there is a lot of
bare substrate. Um and the erosion controls are to the plan as they are. Um, but out of an abundance of caution, I did make a suggestion that they do add a couple
additional controls on the lower >> Yeah. >> end of the slope just to make sure that in the case of warmer weather and heavier precipitation events that we don't have any, you know, any extra
sediment going into or back into some of those resource areas. There are protections on the downstream side. It's just don't want it to be >> Is the project done? >> Um, as far as the installation of the stream crossing, it's
>> pretty much is what half half it was. >> It's half the pond is definitely way lower than it was before. Um, yeah, back to where they said it would be. Um the implementation of the plantings and restoration work
>> is going to be this coming start this coming spring. Um >> we have a date or ballpark date. >> Um I don't have a confirmed ballpark date yet, but I can contact the engineer and see if we can um or see when we can
expect more clarification on that. >> Yeah, we want to be notified, you know, maybe like three to four weeks. So you are you satisfied with the work? >> I'm I'm satisfied with the installation of it next to the >> I can drive by and see it. >> You guys drive by and see it. >> Yeah. Looks good. >> Yeah.
I will this photo I know the rocks shouldn't be like that. >> Well, there's there's just so much spare soil there that >> is that going to become a problem downream? [clears throat] >> Oh, so far it's [snorts] >> Well, the rocks are supposed to slow the water down, but you're right. I thought we asked for more. >> Yeah, that just seems kind of funny like
that that they would not. Is that finished? Is that what it looks like right now under underneath? >> That's what it looked like the last time that I went there. >> Yeah, because that's all going to that's just going to wash out if they ever have an effect. >> Okay. >> I'm sure they're doing I'm assuming they know what they're doing than we do. But >> yeah, but I I guess I wouldn't put them
in a sequential like that because that's not going to slow down. It's not going to >> wash. Yeah. ending them down at the >> certainly basically all this I mean I would think these dirt has become a problem downstream which is >> you would think they maybe start off
with some more rocks and slowly but to nothing maybe. >> Sure. >> That would slow the rush down. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It just seems like they put one somebody said put three rows every two feet. >> Exactly. [laughter] >> So >> make it look not as not natural as
possible. >> It's like a water slide. Yeah. >> Okay. So, so more stones, make the pattern less streamlined. Um, just make it a little bit more >> Yeah. Break it up. Give us something that's going to more slow it down. Not a create more of an edi that's going to
speed up. And >> unless it's It did look like it was pitched a little this way as opposed to this. It looked pretty close, but >> Okay. But yeah, I can. >> All right.
>> Reach out. Um, and so let's see. Um, as far as um, grant work, last week we did make our submission for the DOT highway community grant. Um, we haven't heard back yet, but
um, but they haven't asked for feedback. So, I think that at this point submission is looking very good. >> Where's that page? >> The cover for the cover where the grants going towards I think. So that's the
um that's the Wilder Brook off Keys Road. So >> Oh, so you're doing also an MVP and that. >> So yeah. So um because it's a um well so it is a we got to take inflation into account. So it's a project that the prices climb
to about a little over 2.02 million dollar. So it's bridge bridge projects or culvert crossing or stream crossing projects in general are typically inexpensive projects to say the least when it comes to planning phase
implementation phase and then post. Um but yeah because this one has to be is at a size where it has to be turned into more of a bridge structure in order to comply with the NAAC stream crossing standards.
Yeah, there's a lot more meat to what's >> it started out with a man three [clears throat] >> and then it went to one, >> you know, the whole thing is is, >> you know, >> if if if it was private property, it would have been done for probably $500,000 and then be done with it
>> or if it was maintenance. [laughter] >> It's just it's >> one of the crazy projects. >> So, I mean, the good news is so like the permit and planning phase is done. Um, >> who's managing the project? >> So,
as far as the um heading the submission process and stuff like that, that's that's me right now. Um so again, we we're one we're one grant submission down. Um and we've got most of the materials ready for the second one that we'll be going for as
well. Um so um that second grant is I believe the due date is April. So, we have some time between now and then until till then, but we've got most of our
submitts already complete for that one. We just got to gather a couple of the small ones that we needed on the public outreach side, but we're we're looking pretty good. Yeah. So, but yeah, so we'll keep our ears and eyes open for,
you know, for the end result for that grant and we'll see what happens. I'll keep the commission informed on the status of it, too. Um because it would be really great if we' be really great if we finally broke through and we got it. >> Yeah. >> That way a lot of work. >> Yeah.
>> It's been going on for what, three, four years now? Um, I believe the original MVP submission was in 2022 and then they submitted couple other ones. We did have to pull out of last year's just because that got put on my plate at >> the near tail end of the
So, so it was kind of is kind of like a oh hey like when December rolls around, you know, hey, by the way, there's this grant and [clears throat] it took a while to >> to figure out where we were specifically on it and then we found out the steps that we needed to. So that's why we
decided to forgo that year's submission because we weren't quite at the steps that we needed to and that's why we came around and did for this one. And there's and the reason we did the community culprit grant was because it was another opportunity that
came along where we already have just about all the data that they needed for that. So it's Yeah. So it was kind of like a good pickme up submission. So we're good. Um, >> and you're upcoming professional development. How are those uh D trainings gone?
>> Um, they've come >> seems [snorts] like you've been pretty active with those. And how many have you attended so far? >> Every single one of them. >> How many is that? >> Uh, when did we start? I think we started around I think we started around late summer kind of thing. So around August,
September kind of thing. Um, it's once a month. Um we I think there was a there was a different organization workshop today around the time that we were supposed to do it. So next one instead
of first second Monday of this month is going to be next Tuesday around >> 10 to 11:30. So, um, >> as soon as you're getting a lot of communication and building some dialogue with the EP and getting some, you know,
some critical knowledge from going on those. >> Yep. Yeah. No, it it's good especially when you have ideas that you want to run, you know, off of them when it comes to, you know, certain interpretations of, you know, the act and, you know, other pieces of legislation that we have to keep in mind with the permitting
procedures and everything. So that way, yeah, it's a little easier than, you know, than, you know, calling them, you know, calling them every day with 50 questions kind of thing. It's an opportunity to kind of disperse it a little bit. >> That's great. >> Yeah, that's great. Definitely. Thank
you for, you know, putting that time in. >> Yeah. Um, as far as other professional development, um, see, uh, I'm still waiting for them to release the new soils courses for, um, the UNH,
um, soil science certificate. There are two more that I'm searching for. Um, I think one of one of them is um, soil morphology and then the other one is um, introduction to soil mapping. Um, and those are the last two that I need to complete that certificate. Um, over
vacation, I completed a um, wetland science and conservation specialization offered by the um, University of Illinois um, college system. Um, and in addition to being a refresher for the delineation methods
that I learned over the summer through UNH, um, I also got to learn a lot about wetlands projects from a more socio environmental perspective where we're looking at, you know, stakeholder collaboration and, you know, getting
people more attuned to ongoing projects and how to go about, you know, proper conduct when we're, you introducing and talking about projects with you know you know everybody involved in the process kind of thing and then also just a lot
of other statistics and science about wetlands in general. Um and currently I'm going for a another professional development specialization um offered by the University of Maryland College Park and it's for environmental
project management. um also has very helpful >> also has to do a lot with >> um with you know stakeholders in every part of processes of environmental projects as well as you know even some
of the team dynamics as well when you're stuff such as like agile project management and you know actually building up to make sure that teams are able to act accordingly and you know, give the most, you know, effort towards
the success of each phase of a project. So, um, really excited about that. Um, about 3/4 of the way done, the first of three courses, so we're on our way. Yeah. So, yep. And I think that's um oh
and last thing I just found out today uh so I got um just got a notification today [clears throat] that our conference um or the MACC spring conference is February 28th. I know that typically
it's in the early half of March, but this year it's >> it's coming quick. Um so um I would um if everybody gets a chance within the next week or so um people are interested
in going because it is the um both conferences are a great time but I find that this conference now >> Holy Cross again >> the the one at Holy Cross is typically a lot you know it's a lot it's a lot bigger than there are a lot more
workshop openings um And there are also um I think given the scope of you know the commission's primary purview um there's a lot more in this conference that is
relatable and a lot more things that can be um implemented in at least the wetlands side of of the way that we serve here. So, um, >> so if we go looking for people to get back to who wants to go, we can vote.
>> Who wants to go? So, we can Yeah. So, we can vote to go. >> Do they do they already have the workshops listed? >> Yeah, the workshops are listed. Um, I think it's I think they have up to eight per eight separate courses per section.
I mean, you and you know, there are two >> the first two slots are double sessions. So some for some for the fundamentals courses if people want to pursue those and some for just really long courses. I think one of the long courses on the
second half of the day is um about aspects of river restoration. Um and that one is from from after lunch to the end of the day kind of thing. like they're up to eight courses. If you're if you're doing the if you're if you're
doing A through D, you've got up to eight choices per >> okay >> per per one. And I think everybody can find something that they are interested in and so >> about warming pools again. >> Yeah. So, as soon as possible and I
think with the member rate, I think we're down to 180 per person kind of thing. And but yeah and um yeah so >> Justin >> y chang this subject a little bit did
did you notify the people at um the project on keys road whatever you want to call it about removing the the the silence >> sense um I can hear that tomorrow
>> I asked you before I I know you've been busy. >> Yep. Uh yeah. So, uh tomorrow I can reach out to Keys Road. >> The other thing I was going to ask is, have you heard anything lately on the bridge over 140 for the bike trail? >> I haven't heard of any active movement
on it. Hasn't come through. >> Yeah, I just >> I know that. I know that. >> Yeah. >> The one who was supposed to get down. >> I I know. Really? >> Oh, I know. Really? >> But remember, they've come before us in the last couple years. You you guys didn't know the test boring out there.
>> And that the markings were already done and everything. So it's curious. It's been around and around. >> Okay. Anybody have any have any new business that we haven't discussed? >> Would we be affected by the price increases for that >> the bike trail over 140? >> Oh,
what are you going to do? You know, >> you want to do business? >> Anything else? Got a lot of paperwork over there. Anything you want to go over? [laughter] >> That's all the stuff. He just broke brings that for >> Oh, no. You know why he brings it? Because sometimes I ask him for it. So,
>> this is this is 335 and 362. [laughter] >> This is all um you know, we never leave [laughter] once once they they once they stake out their their wall, they never leave.
>> Really? So you remember that. >> Someone like to make a motion to end tonight's meeting. >> Do we have to? >> I'll [laughter] make someone like to second that motion. I'll second that. All in favor? All right.