All right, good evening everybody. Let's get started. Uh, first in the agenda is public comment. Anybody here that would wish to discuss any new business? >> Yes. >> State your name for the record, please. >> Alan Russo, 211 Spring Road. Also in a product to the guidance selection and
bill. Uh, following my comments related to the enforcement order on the agenda tonight. I've got some copies of this if you'd like to. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, first on February 17th during a Garden City Council meeting sludge landfill extension update, Mayor
Nicholson said that he directed the city of DPW and engineering departments to discontinue any further pursuing of any further expansion of the existing sludge landfill. He also indicated that we will
only review those alternatives outlined in the reports from the MEPA office and mass D. I fully support this decision by Mayor Nicholson. Back on June 9th of last year, DPW director Dane Nile appeared before the
conservation commission with regard to the sludge landfill enforcement board. During a 22minute discussion, he said, "I'm not committing going to the council on taking rateayers funds to go out there on something that if we do expand
it, it would all be addressed at that point." Well, the Sledge Lamp expansion project has been discontinued. DPW director should now develop and submit to the commission a written plan to address the storm water management
improvements. Considering that the sludge landfill is expected to be in operation for another 4 years, last week I emailed you a copy of the Mccclure Engineering sludge landfill 2025 operations report. The report lacks any
mention of the March 6, 2025 erosion and sludge washout incident or the ongoing enforcement order. Also, the report does not include inspections of the storm water or leech management infrastructure important to the safe operation of the
landfill. I'm concerned that the report has these omissions. I continue to be concerned about the impact of the accumulated snowfall and frozen ground at the site along with the potential of a future large rain event, you know, like the one that happened a year ago
yesterday. So, I respectfully urge you to keep the sludge landfill enforcement order open and to continue your ongoing bonus visit. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> No minutes at this time. No emergency
certifications. No certificate of compliance. the open enforcement orders is the um sludge landfill. Justin, do you have any any news to report on the sludge land? >> Um I myself don't have any major news
about it. Um although I will agree that you know with the upcoming spring season given that that's typically a rainy season it and with the high higher temperatures that we have for this part of the season
with all the melting that's going on. It would be in our best interest to continue to monitor situation. If it's all right with the commission, I'll probably go out tomorrow just to get an initial look with that, especially since tomorrow is going to
potentially be the highest temperature except for the >> Yeah, I'd like to go out there tomorrow and then maybe go out um around the next rainfall after all this melt. >> I think we have some rain. Is it somebody's Did I hear rain coming up um next week? >> Yes. >> Yes,
>> you did. You heard the saying. Okay, maybe you take a ride out there. Actually, this is Wednesday might rain, too. I just want to see how.1, so it's not a ton of rain, but I'd like to get my eyes on it when it is during a typical rainstorm, maybe of a half an
inch or something for a 24-hour period. >> Yep. >> And then could you request updated reports because we haven't seen those in a little while? >> And then, um, would someone like to make a motion to continue the enforcement of the sludge landfill? Let's go to April 13th. that
way. Um just >> actually before we go before we get there, can we um >> Yeah. >> Can we um ask the DPW for um as the as Mr. Russo requested at some point a plan? >> Yep. >> For >> Yep. Yeah. Updated reports and then
proposed plan for repairs. Okay. >> And what the maintenance plan is going to be for the next well four years at least. Good. Good idea. >> Thank you. I don't if we send them I don't know if we if we support set a due date on that
or not. Well, I think put the request in see what you get for a response but I'd like to Duncan to continue with that motion. Let's continue to April 13th and ask date for an update in the 13th and I've written response back on my
request. So to second that motion, can you complete the motion for the 13th of April? Yeah, I'll make that motion for the 13th of April. Someone to second that motion. All in favor? >> I >> Nicole Terrace is continued to May 11th,
same as 282 Brookside Drive and then um one uh 31 Traverse Street. Any update on that at all or anybody here that witnessed this? No. No. So, as I I was kind of going back and forth, I think you should send communication over to 31 Travers and um we have not heard from
him in quite some time. >> Um quite a while. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, it's longer than we think. >> Oh, but he was going to get it surveyed and then all the snow came. >> Yeah. So, why don't we continue him to the 13th and we don't hear anything back either. Yeah. Still getting it surveyed or not. If there's no response by April
13th, we're going to remove it from the agenda. Would someone like to make that motion? Make a motion. >> Someone would like to second that motion. Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> uh notice for Ted, nothing. Old business. We're still 170 Mil Street. Um
Justin, I'd like you to reach out to Masam Safety. Give them the same thing that uh we need an update and not no update. I'd like a written communication describing what their plan is. It's been open for many years now. And um the
open-ended response of no update is not acceptable any anymore. Um if we have to go up the chain and and um of command, we're going to continue to do so. >> Well, I mean it also called a parallel chain because it you know this is a safety issue. So it's more than just a
wellness issue. >> Okay. Yeah. Uh dam safety who who who are they under? So the office of dam safety is under the department of conservation and recreation DCR. >> So yeah
>> in Boston or >> their office well the office of the people that I have discussions with is at um West Boston. >> I'm personally not comfortable with having us be in charge of safety for
dams. >> Well technically not on this one. That's the problem. >> Yeah. >> It's on It's been moved out of ours into theirs and they've done nothing. >> So why is it still on our agenda? >> Because >> that's a good question. >> Well, if we take it off, it's going to be disappearing forever because they're never going to touch us.
>> So, we kind of >> see it was filled at one time and we all know who did it, but I'm not going to mention any names, but somebody who is involved with it took the dam out. So, It's a third a third of what it
was. I guess something like that, right? And it's just sitting there. I've had constant communication with Emily Kuso dating back to uh June 25th of 2024 and I keep getting basically no response at all. So maybe we'll have to go to the
mayor and go to the governor. >> Yeah. >> I mean, forget a registered a registered male. So, if you could reach out one more time to Emily Caruso and ask for that the commission's requesting another update and no update is not an answer. I'm done
with that. We don't have an update. >> That's crazy. >> And Emily works for technically, you're right, DCR, which is mass dam safety. She's dam safety engineer office of dam safety, mass department of conservation
and recreation. There was a proposal that Dan that they presented to the owner, right? And they listed all everything he had to do and it was a time frame. He never did a thing.
>> Okay, let's push that out, continue that to April 13th, 2026. And hopefully we get a response by then. Someone like that make that motion. >> I'll make that motion. Someone to second that motion. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? I that's disappointing. Um, new business
agent report. Let's see what we've got. All right. The order conditions for 677 Tying Boulevard was issued on March 5th after going through
the final edits to the order of conditions um and was subsequently submitted to D and to and to um the applicant. Um, as far as
um already touched upon 850 West Broadway um the only things I left are for Maccc debrief and the professional development on mine kind of
a report. Um, but I did happen to print out periodic um, account statuses for commission. Um, if you guys want to, you know, have this to review until later or if you guys
come up with any, you know, questions about the budgets, um, please feel free to let myself and, um, our budget coordinator know. That way we can look into it as appropriate and try. >> Okay. Come back next meeting with some
questions on it. >> Okay. Y Thank you. Appreciate you. It looks like they got it into better format than we used to have, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Rather than just having the the single a single stack, this kind of has a little bit more of a dichotomy to it.
So that way you guys know where things are going and how [clears throat] things are going. I believe that we are we're at a net positive. So that's always good. Um
but yeah um you want to go into MACC? Yeah. >> Okay. Awesome. >> So at the MACC conference I took three courses. Um, I took what is an emergency, further doing a deep dive
into what makes up for an emergency certification or a scope that's worthy of being fulfilled by an emergency certification. Um, then I took making space, scaling up wetland restoration and marsh migration. I went
there for the wetland restoration part, but a lot of the key points were more towards the eastern part of the state. didn't find that out until I sat down. Um, and then the last course of the day was a half-day course on river restoration and permitting design. Um,
it was also an applied workshop because we broke into work groups and worked through a new guide that uh that an association from Franklin County produced and it's basically uh for very
work in rivers especially associated with structures like dams or anything really. Um it there's a long list of per of permits outside of the commission actually issues which is just
the NOI and other permits like that but this goes both local state and federal and it's kind of just a really helpful thing for you know local conservation commissions
um your applicants and your practitioners and even higher up regulators to consider when evaluating projects and reviewing them. So, um I'm hoping that they make a statewide version so that way, you know, it's just
better for us to streamline the process and just kind of get a timeline on how long projects are actually going to be when they come in front of us. So, yeah. Um and I just finished a certificate this weekend um on environmental project
management. It was very agile, managementheavy. Um, but it taught me a lot about about stakeholder outreach as well as what drives a team to success when actually making really large pushes
towards group projects. So, it was actually really fun. And that is all my updates for today. >> Yeah. >> Um, what did you take classes? Um, the one that I like the most and I learned the most from was meadow management for
conservation and it was uh conducted by a guy who's the land steward supervisor at Tower Hill uh and showed how they went from lawn to meadow uh over the course of a number of years and that was that was really interesting. I mean you can let things go and see how they go
but you got some management stuff [clears throat] in there too. Uh I also took protecting wetland resources. Uh that was um based on utility projects. That was interesting too. And um local storm water regulations where
they had examples from different towns that we could [cough] [clears throat] look at and see how they applied to the kinds of things that we're dealing with. So it was really educational [clears throat] as always. >> How was the turnout overall? Pretty
good. >> Pretty good. >> Pretty good. >> One of the biggest. I think they said it was one of the biggest ones they've had. >> Well, it's always it's always bigger at Holy Cross anyway. Um, >> that is true. >> And of course, lots of vendors and lots of people that we know. >> Yeah.
>> Um, so that's fun to see, too. >> Yeah. >> What did you guys take for classes? I took the um the fundamentals class on um uh reading plans and site visits. That's always a good one. >> Yeah. Yeah, it was very good. Um I
realized I need to do some do some they have other classes I want to do and we'll be doing them online. Um I went to uh it was called uh effective permit conditions for bridges, culverts and linear roadway projects which is put out by put out by a woman who's in charge of the um in charge of some departments the
mass DP highways. Um they actually have they get bias buys from the a lot of the weapon laws. So it wasn't as focused on the laws as I would have liked. >> Yeah. >> Um but I did learn of a good technical manual that may be helpful for those types of things. Um then I went to the
last one was a mass bio mass statea biodiversity goals for restoration um which is you know not really related to much to what we do uh as far as wetlands laws but getting into land management. great source of um of uh
different funding the state has different grants and things like that. >> Um I also attended attended the plan review and site visit procedures [clears throat] with Brian. Um that was the only one that I attended but it was very informative and I feel like I'm much
better prepared to attend a site visit. Hopefully we do some in the evening sometime so I can make one. >> I can meet you with a couple because we used to remember we used to do them all the time at night. We did. Yeah, we did. >> Yeah. >> But we used to have shorter meetings, too, I think. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, I know we we'd sip out here and
we'd go to do sometimes we do two or three. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's neat. After the meeting, >> sometimes we do start here and just go and other times we meet at night after hours. True. >> Yeah, that would be that would be great. >> It was fun when we all went together. >> Yeah, >> sure.
>> Okay. What else? >> Then Justin can take minutes if we all go together because it would be a quorum, >> right? One of the things that was covered during that course is that's kind of why I look forward to do a site visit. It'd be great to apply some of the things that we learned and great to watch Justin minutes for.
>> Great. So we have that was actually really interesting. I'm glad you mentioned that. >> So if you're if we're out there, we have a quorum. We can discuss it. >> We have to have min minutes. >> Yeah. >> Because it's open. >> Well, we have Justin, so that's great.
>> Okay, that's good to know. speed on. >> So they actually they actually suggest that if you have quarm to send somebody home >> well that's what I always remember we used to always make sure the numbers are good. >> Yeah because it does make it confusing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Right. Right. Like there was something a good like what was it they're saying about like if say this there's four quarum say there's four of us that it's okay if if I go you know walk away over there out of earshot you guys >> that's legally >> but if we discuss it
>> that's where it's tricky. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And that's where the issue kind of arises because you can't prove that we weren't discussing anything either way. So it's much safer to just take minutes for the for the time if we're there enough to create a quorum. It's one of my I'm really frustrated about the you
know the um the compressor laws the the days the test we have to take and the class we have to take it's really simple you don't take anything from anybody period but we have to you know it takes an hour and a half to take that they don't teach anything but open meeting law >> no there's a class you can take online did you take that one
>> no there's an open meeting law class you take online >> from the ethics board >> yep did you get that link >> no I mean you have to Take the the >> Yeah, >> the other one. >> Yeah, there's a whole
Can you follow up with that? >> Yeah, >> please. >> The other thing I got was in I got an invite through Procore from Tai and Bond for a project and I signed in which is very odd and it's the gardener nature
trail. Is this like something new? >> Oh, must be the tree planting. The the the new trees over by the cemetery. Do you recognize the number? >> Oh, um >> or any of the names >> for that mean?
>> I can't really. Well, I can screenshot it, but I just somebody sent me an invite. I'd like to know what it's for. And if if it's for the nature trail, they're probably, you know, like two years too late. [clears throat] [laughter] >> Perhaps [clears throat] follow. Yeah.
There's no drawings or anything, so it must be a new job. Do you recognize any of these people? [clears throat] Only Alex and Aaron. That's those are the two [clears throat] that we always work. Those are the two engineers that we always work with. Um, so yep. So,
there's nothing here. >> Oh, wow. Oh, this is the old nature trail. Why would they send this to me now? It's been >> You get caught up in your >> No, no, no. I I don't know. I'll follow
up. >> Was sent to me on Thursday. >> I can I can follow up on that for you if you want. >> What's going on with that weed out there now that we're still covered under a foot and a half of snow. I think >> I know that. But did you hear any
updates? Nothing. >> I haven't heard any updates since the last letter from uh from Glenn from the third party guy. >> And they sent me all this. Nothing even in any of the folders. So if we paid for
this as a city, it's disappointing, too. >> Okay. >> Follow up. >> Anybody else have any other new business? Someone like to make a motion to end tonight's hearings. >> I'll make a motion. Someone like to second that. >> I'll second it.
>> All in favor? I