It should be. >> All right. Um, let's get started on the meeting. The first on the agenda is public comments on any agenda items. Is somebody in the uh the public like to comment on anything on the agenda? No.
>> All right. Next, um, meetings. Someone like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes of 91825. >> I'll make that motion. >> Someone like to second that motion. >> Second. >> 98. >> 9825. Yep. >> Second. All in favor? All right.
>> Thank you. >> Enforcement orders. Each one of them will go through all with the involvement continued to the 27th of October. Under hearings, the request for determination of applicability. The Gardener Conservation Commission will hold a joint public hearing under MDL chapter
131 section 40 in the wetlands protection act and city of Gardner wetlands protection ordinance on the request for termination of applicability filed by Francis McFall for the proposed addition and distribution of a sandy field next to a single family drawing to take place at 71 Kendall Pond East
Gardener. It's map 817-14-9. The proposed work will be set to occur within the buffer zone of a bank bordering on land underwater. Somebody here to represent 71 Kendall >> here.
What's your name, please? >> Can I just go over the project with us? You can just >> you can come up here. >> Sure. >> We won't give you any homework. >> Yes. So, what our intent is there at that location, yeah, >> is just to re refreshing the beach, the
existing beach that's there, >> adding another additional inch and a half to 2 in of sand on top of a 15 by 25 area. >> The shrubs are along the water for a buffer, but I will put on a waddle along that border. And like I said, we'll just
be spreading in a 25 by 15 area, approximately 2 in depth. >> Where you getting the soil from with the sand? I was going to get it from Powell. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. If you could um before you dump that, could you just email Justin the S report? They should be able to give you
something. >> I believe I gave him one material partial distribution for >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But then um >> unless there's another facility, you'd prefer I get the fill from you know the
sand. If there is, then I don't have a problem with that. >> No, I So this one this the I >> So this just tells what the soil is. It doesn't sell say if it's been any contamination to it. I know the pit. So I know where
>> there is a certification, >> right? Well, because it has to meet um so it's listed as C3 masonry and in order for it to meet that standard, they typically >> do have to go through washing of the
majority of impurities, if not all. >> No, I know this this pretty pretty good. So, but I do normally we got remember last time we got a full report, but >> Well, I'm sure POW doesn't >> No, I know. Yeah, I remember seeing that.
>> And you're going to put a wooden framework, too, right? Something like that. All right. >> You're going to put a border >> a border around >> if you request one. >> Oh, >> I was just going to lay it over the existing sand. >> Okay. >> Yeah. How many feet you're going to put
some waddles across the front? Right. So, >> 50 ft across the front. It's only 25 ft. Works out. >> You're going to stake that with those waddles in. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> Anybody have any questions? >> I got a couple questions. So those so the waddles won't are only going to be there during the are they going to be there permanently or
>> I'll leave them there through the winter. >> Good winter. Okay. And when's the last time I'm sorry. >> I'll remove them in the spring. Thank you. And when was the last time uh sandals replenished there? >> 30ish 35 40 >> somewhere in there. I don't know.
>> Long time. It's been a family camp for a long time. >> Cool. So >> anybody else have any questions? >> Anybody in the audience have any questions? So, was this this is adjacent to the Lithuanian club, right? >> Across the lake. >> Across the lake. Okay. And yeah, where does that project stand?
>> Uh, I haven't heard anything from them since. >> Yeah, I've driven by. >> Yeah, I've driven by that. >> It's two different, >> right? Yeah. No, we did talk about it. >> All right. >> The biggest thing is just making sure we know where the sand came from, right? >> Cuz so you're not like, "Yeah, I got off some guy's truck." >> No, I didn't know.
>> You know what I mean? Yeah. >> Okay. >> I didn't want to put anything with any clay. >> Yeah. Second. >> All right. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Someone like to make a motion to close the hearing. >> I'll make that motion. Second that. >> Second.
>> All in favor? >> So, I mean, obviously this is pretty basic. I do we get soils up here in sand. So, I do know the pit. Um, I think obviously you had mentioned the same thing three, right? Just make sure
the BMPs are in place. Um, and making sure that they call Yeah. Yeah. before they start and when they finish. And he's going to put the waddles up. >> Who do you want us to call? >> Okay. >> Would someone like to make a motion to
approve a negative three determination for 71 Kendall Pond East? Uh, with the stipulations that um, erosion controls are in place. the uh the owner of the property calls Justin before and when they finish >> and the waddles go up along the uh the
water >> until the spring break. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'll make that motion. >> Someone to second that. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I said we'll sign that. We'll sign it. >> Yeah. Um so I'll be in contact with you
guys. I will probably be getting this done the first half of tomorrow. So I'll let you guys know when it's done. All right. Thank you. >> Have a good day. >> You too. >> Thanks for coming. >> We're going to keep moving on notice of intent. I'm not going to read them both,
but um Don State Park has requested a continuence to October 27th. Would someone like to make that motion? Someone like to second the motion? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> 42 Linus A. Again, I'm not going to read it, but they've asked for a continuence
to October 27th for someone like to make that motion. >> I'll make that motion. >> Someone to second it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Under old business, 170 Mil Street, that's been continued uh to October 27th, Nature Trail of Pearly Brook.
There are no updates on at this time on either of those. >> Um, one thing we should talk about is uh do you want to go over your agent report or do you want to go right into professional development and try to get that resolved? Um, so, uh, as far as new
things with the agent report, um, in addition to trying to make a couple improvements and try to my continuous attempts to get the department up to where it should be for, you know, in the
upcoming years, um, I have started to reassess and start revising our SOPs or our standard operating procedures. especially um when it comes to site visits and types of site visits that the agent
makes. Um you know, I believe that having a good foundational system will allow for way better and way more sufficient note takingaking. So that way we're not just relying, you know, on, you know, just the bare bones notes that
I typically take in order to create the agent reports and get the necessary information to you guys. So, I'm just doing my best to make it so that it's that, you know, it's just an all around better process. So, >> great.
>> And then Kra, you want to go over and do what you handed us on your just the options on these gates? Yeah. >> Oh, okay. I can do that. >> You submit one for record? Never mind. on today.
So, I was in Pennsylvania uh last weekend and um uh was walking on a nature trail and so had saw what they do for the end of the trail so that cars don't just go willy-nilly down this because it's a
rail trail so it's wide enough for a car. So, um, in the first photo you see, you know, a bicycle and a a hiker can walk to the right of that little gate. And the gate has a lock on it on the top left. And I think it just is hanging
there. I don't think it's in the ground. I think it mo it can move if it needs to be for an emergency vehicle. >> It's probably sleep in the ground. >> Yeah, >> could be. Could be. Um, but that's one option. And since we've been talking about options with the new nature trail
and how are we going to prevent cars from going on it, I took pictures so that we could see. And then I also took pictures of theformational sign that they have there because that's a nice one, too. It's a county trail. So in Pennsylvania, as long, you know, as well as most other
states outside of New England, they go by county and not by town. Um, so it's a county trail. Um um so I just thought it was um a possibility for us moving forward. >> Jess, is there any way that you can see
if the DPW will give us proposal to have a have one put in? >> I can I can >> ask if they can give us a price and maybe we can talk about taking some of our funds to to pay for it. >> Yeah, we price we got enough of us. So yeah,
>> I could I could >> um Do you have another copy of those? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, the other thing I was going to ask was what if I had somebody that could build these? >> Can we can we if somebody else provides them with the
DPW install it? >> I believe that could potentially be arranged. Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. I've seen these where the where the uh you know part of the post in the ground is basically cemented in 55gallon drum and the whole thing is
done out. >> Yep. >> Pretty beefy. So, two things. Ask if Dane will give us a price to build and install and ask if not ask him if he can give us just a price to install that. >> Well, for that matter
just everything that comes out of ground >> in the middle, right? >> Well, here's the problem. If they ever need to plow that, that's in the way. >> No, no, no. >> Oh, I know exactly what they do. They fall down, but they don't they're still above ground. >> Yeah. All right. >> Oh, I see. It's the axles that are that
>> Yeah, I think I have a picture. Dartmouth College has them all on their their trails. >> Yeah. >> But they don't go all the way down. They have to take them apart to plow. So half the season they're gone. >> Plow those. >> I don't know if they have to get in
there for an incident or something. So those are a little bit more intensive to put in I think too cuz you got to cut the pavement, >> put the block in the >> They said they were doing Oh yeah, just take a peek and see you may have different bumper for design. >> Yeah. Yep.
>> Greg's coming from the >> Go ahead. Behind me. Go ahead, sir. >> Strange man. >> Yeah, strange man. The >> the only issue I look at is that the gap there is huge. It basically goes
from the grave site down to the water. >> So it would need to be more than one ballard or something to block more. >> Yeah. So it's the other could put a
little one more of these over here. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. I I get that. I just want to make sure that we're we don't put in a single baller and say, "Okay, we're good." >> Yeah. >> Everybody goes around it. >> Yep. Thank you.
Anything else? Oh, MAC, did we already we already voted on this? So, we're all set. >> Yep. >> Everybody who's going, >> did they put all their everything into Justin? >> Yes, >> I believe. Yeah. So um yeah, Brian also submitted um this today. So hopefully
that enough to start processing tomorrow. >> Then our next meeting is October 27th. Obviously you can hear it's going to be a busy meeting. So if you cannot make the 27th, we need to know pretty quick and then after that November 10th. Anybody else have any other new business
to discuss? >> 27th meeting. >> Yeah. Columbus Day. Yeah. >> No. Anybody? Uh, and someone like to make a motion to end tonight's hearing. >> Oh, that's kind of quick. I mean, just
sit here. >> All right. If you don't want to, I'll make the motion. >> I'll second Doug's motion. Want me to sit here? >> Someone like to officially second that motion. All in favor?
>> I thank you everybody.