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He worked at Bristol. He went to the worked at Bristol. >> Morning. How are you? How are you? See that? >> Did you see that? >> I'm going to be going like this and my coffee.

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>> No, I didn't see it until you pointed out. >> Okay. Uh before we start, I just want to make sure everybody has their microphones. When they speak, they they're facing top the mic. might correct for angle. >> Thank you.

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Okay, call the meeting to order. Has everyone read the minutes online? Michael sent us. >> Yes, sir. Oh, we're not going to announce >> I'm not getting any. >> So, go ahead and read that. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. Before we uh start the meeting, I'm going to do announcement. Any person may take a video or audio recording of an open session of a meeting or any trans may transmit the meeting through any medium subject to reasonable requirements of the chair until the

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placement of operation equipment used to and not interfere with the conduct of the meeting. Any person intending to make such recording shall notify the chair for with all documents reference be used during the meeting are to be submitted in duplicate to the chair

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pursuant to the open meeting public records law. All documents shall become part of the official recording of the minutes. Anybody recording? Just us. Okay. Okay. I go back and call the order and anybody read the minutes.

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>> Can I have a motion to accept the minutes? Motion. >> Second. Okay. All in favor? >> Any discussions? All in favor? >> Okay. Nobody opposed. We're all set.

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>> Okay. Thank you. >> Just a quick comment on microphones. If you start hearing the feedback that's squelching, please shut your mic off and only turn on when you're speaking. >> Okay, next thing on our list is the treasury report. >> Okay, you have your financials for the

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month of May as of May 31. Mike had as sent you copies or you received copies today. Okay, we're down to the final month. Keep going. You're good. Keep going. >> We're down to the final

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month. This is the May 31 report. And uh as of today, June 1st, we will be working on our final monies. And Mike will be preparing final reports and final end of the year. and he will do be

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doing his best to balance the accounts, move money around and uh move me some money in to buy a car. I know no he he will uh as always do his best so that we come out on the bottom line

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the way the city council wants us to. Okay. On page one of your financials on page one at the top as always is the general fund, the money we get from the city. Are there any questions up there? Remember, this is as of 5:31. We have

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one more month to go and I think Mike has us in a good spot that we'll make it. No questions on that one. Then down to the gift fund. >> I'll pipe in um just to do a few clarifications. Um we always try to give

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you the projected balance at the end of the year whether it's first surplus or deficit. There are some deficits in salary accounts that's going to be uh taken care of through additional appropriation because of adjustments made over the course of the year. That happens uh pretty much every

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year. So I would say for the department head salary deficit um I gave you a projected amount for the next four weeks. um where we are on that will probably be about $3,700 that's going to be taken care of with additional supplemental appropriation we've asked

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for and I know the mayor has communicated to the city council in some way shape form or fashion some additional appropriation to cover the expenses um that have gone into deficit for repairs and maintenance and energy and

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utilities in anticipation of uh having to make some adjustments. We really look through our expenses for repairs and maintenance just to see whether or not we had any wiggle room, whether we could classify some of our

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repair and maintenance expenses as uh part of program expenses, which is sometimes a very long stretch. but we're able to stretch out about $2700 that we pulled from the repair and maintenance account and reappropriated

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to the grant account because they were program related expenses. Um, but we're still going to be right now we would say we're about $12,000 in uh in a rears because primarily of

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those two accounts, energy and utilities. Our energy costs, just so you know, in FY26 are about 24% higher than they were in FY25. Um, that's strictly cost basis. So, you know, right across the board with

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exception of uh the solar and the solar was about an 8% increase, but everything else was, you know, about 24% which is pretty high. Uh, that is the only clarifications I wanted to make, Terry. Thank you. >> Thank you. There's a question, Paul.

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I just need some clarification on uh first of all the the appropriation the supplemental appropriation hasn't decided hasn't been decided where you're going to those funds from. Is that correct? >> So the supplemental appropriation comes from the city budget and it's usually um

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it's the you know kind of leftover money but I'll let the mayor speak to that since he's here and at the very bottom that stem you. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. back from my old days with the music program at the silent use these microphones even I hope watching now start speaking um so I'll talk a little bit more about me being here

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later on but yes the way this has worked we anticipated that there was going to be a change in the salary ordinance we did a lot of changes to all of the non-un employees on the last year when we gave them a grid scale where they can actually path moving forward rather than the old ordinance that was there that just said this position title this much

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that's it we now have a uh actual salary grid that you can actually see where you're growth would be if you're with the city for over a certain number of years. Um, so anticipating that since every single non-unit employee did get some type of raise as a result of that, we had a reserve account set aside. So money is being transferred out of that

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into that account. So we're working on putting all that together. >> So and just to follow up with that, um, a couple things on this on now that we don't have a a maintenance person, can that possibly be the appropriations that

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we're talking about? That can be yes anything salary can go to cover salaries anything expenses can go to cover expenses you just can't cross the two without a vote of the city council that makes sense what about what about and the other thing I the second part I had was what does this termination leave >> that's if someone is a current city

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employee they have paid time off they've got vacation time that they earn they've got sick time that they earn they've got personal incentive days the city pays everything out but sick time so that's your payout so that's you take out how much vacation time personal time and senator time where we give people half a

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day if they don't call it safe by law. Correct. >> By law. >> Yeah. No, that makes sense. I thought >> how we budget for that one for the city as a whole is I in my budget have a bottom line that's a couple hund,000 and then if someone leaves from a specific

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department, I move money out of my budget into their department and swap it in at the end. So that as as it's needed, it's given out. But because we don't know who's going to leave from where, it's all in my really. Thank you. >> And and remember we recently uh one of

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our employees here at the at the senior center has left us. So that is the reason for that. >> Well, that's what I was saying because >> our fiscal our fiscal year ends really plus he gone. >> So >> you know since he's not here there's money there.

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>> No. >> Okay. I just wonder another question. >> Can I ask it? >> Yes. >> Thank you. I don't need a mic. Yeah, my my voice is annoying enough that on its own. Um, thanks for coming to me, Sam. Of

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>> course. >> Yeah. Um, my my agency, we're in about 20 other different senior centers across Massachusetts, right? >> Um, do we know where the department heads, obviously it's the guy next to me, where does salary lines up amongst

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like like state averages? Do we have an idea of that? Um, so >> we had a composition study that was done 2 3 years ago. >> Okay. >> Um, and that plus some other work that the city council was used to make the new grid that was there last year.

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>> Um, so we can certainly share that setting that was on. >> I would love to see that. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> All right. Any other questions on the general fund? If not, look at the bottom of that page at the gift fund. You can see that uh a small amount of well not

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small $2,250 was received as an anonymous gift and our balance in the gift fund is 101,593.91. Now remember spending that money is to do things that will benefit all you know

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all the seniors. So as we hopefully move to Waterford, you know, there might be some special things that we can't cover that they can come out of that gift fund and as it is some of the painting. So anyway, but that would be something that

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you would all vote on. Okay, any questions on the gift fund? >> Right behind page one, you have the mun uh snapshot. So you'll see that 10159391 is tied to directly to the university.

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>> Okay. Now pro proceeding on to page two of the budget we have the revolving fund and as usual there was a beginning balance there was income income year to date and then

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in the second column. The first column has a couple of purchase orders in it. Sell contracts um in some of the instructors and in McN one instructor and a bill for McN. And the second column are the things that were paid out

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this month. And the total of that is over on page three. Um 1,82875 was spent this month for a total for the year to date 62,78562.

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We have a balance in the revolving account 41,66626. Are there any questions on any of the items that we have spent money on in the revolving account? Any any questions at all about the revolving account?

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>> And just a note about that, by the way, that 41666 is after incumbrances. So that's after POS are applied to the cash balance. And if you go to the next page, you'll see the remover sheet for the revolving fund ties.

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>> Okay. No questions on that. The next >> the next I Paul, you have a question. Oh, no. I didn't mean to cut you off. Oh, no. You're okay. Anybody else have a question on the revolving fund? If not, we'll proceed to the lifeline fund. And

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as always, I turn this over to Mike. It looks as though it's in very good condition, but I always like him to give a live report. Mike, would you uh talk about the Lifeline account? Um, so without getting into the back to the history of it, so far, uh, year to date,

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we've taken in about $12,000 worth of revenue that started on January 1st, partly because that's the program year for the subscribers, and we wanted to migrate them. So from July of last year to December of last year, we were sending out the notices, telling them the billing was going to change, who the

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new management was. We took that over effective January 1st and in 6 months uh really five months of taking about 13,000 at the same time spending about five um there's incumbrances or purchase orders for another 5,600 that pertain to

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our projected costs for the lifeline subscriptions per month. And that really is about $1,400. So that 5600 is over inflated. Really, we expect the the expenses to be more like 2,800, not 56.

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So that balance at the bottom of 2426 by June 30th is probably going to be closer to 5,000. Um, and that is a surplus in the revolving account. Now, don't get excited about that surplus. um we can't buy the car even though I'm

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poking every finding money to do so. Typically what we do with with most of the residual uh funds as Lifeline has operated for the last 30 years is that money is used to buy new equipment and just turn over uh the equipment that we're putting out to the unit. So it's

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updating, improving, upgrading um equipment. So most of those that money will be spent on that and allows us to then be able to offer more uh services to more subscribers. Our growth in the past year has been significant with most

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of it related to the gardener temple areas where when we first took it over the vast majority of subscribers were in the Apple Orange area. So it's um it is definitely a regional approach. Uh but we're we're healthy. We're on the right side of the balance sheet. So that's a

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good thing. Oh, good. How many phone calls? How many phone calls? How many How many points of service? Do you have that number? >> I do. I don't have it with me. Um, but I think we saw just under 900 calls to the

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call center. So 900 fall calls, not not miss, not accidental calls. They classify that separately um over the course of the calendar year FY25. So that's a pretty I mean it's a pretty big number. Um

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there are a lot of there are a lot of really cool stories that we can tell you from the lifeline program. You know it works for the vast majority of subscribers. It's just an insurance policy. But for the for the few that have really needed it in lifethreatening

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kind of cases. This has been the thing that has kept them from either having a permanent hospital stay or nursing home stay or a worst case scenario. So, um, I'm really appreciative of the opportunity to be able to be part of Lifeline North Central.

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>> Does anyone have a question? Paul, you have a question for Mike? >> So, I'm looking at it and the revenues are pretty impressive for me. I mean, when you think about it, it's a little bit more than a little over 25% of date.

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So, we're growing as far as subscriptions. I can only >> Yeah. I think one of the other things you should should know and understand, some people frontload their subscriptions. So if their anniversary date is April 1st, instead of paying monthtomonth, they pay a whole year in advance. So

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you'll see variations in the monthly revenues. Um it's not a static amount because we allow people to do quarterly, we allow them to do half, whatever they want to do. They want to do two months in a minute, they do two months. Um we don't we don't really have a hard line

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on that. So, you'll see that varying, but typically our um subscriptions are close to $2,800 and we pay out 14. Wow. >> So, we're getting we're able to manage that $1,400 for equipment. We can take

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that later. >> Uh and just so you all know, if you look at the tie in, there is a lifeline um unit cover sheet for you all. So you can look at the master inquiry and see that all these numbers pay out

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>> perfectly. >> Mike. >> Yes sir. >> If they do an annual subscription is it have a discounted rate or is it the monthto month just times 12? >> It's just the monthto month times 12. Um interesting by the way lifeline direct

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does offer a small discount if you pay uh ahead. It is a very small discount. The thing we like to tell people is honest to market Troy. If cost is the basis, go through lifeline direct. But what you don't get is when your equipment is down, we go out same day

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manage the equipment. If the equipment needs to be replaced, we give a replacement job on the spot. So they're never left. There's no lag in service time um and coverage for Lifeline through the center. If you go through Lifeline Direct, which is a great product, it just depends on the

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situation. there's a lag time. If your equipment stops working, you have to call get it um you know try to get it troubles shot with somebody over the phone and then if they send you equipment you could be looking at it 3 or 4 days later. So we don't like that

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which is part of why we have an inventory. We have an inventory so we can replace product you know back then. >> Okay. Any other question on the light line? If not we thank you Mike. That was very good. Thank you. Now, uh on page

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page four, nothing to report there. That's the FY25 grant which is all closed out and uh hopefully we'll only see it one more time in the end of the year report and then it will go to bed.

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>> And you have both cover sheets for the um FY24 Council on the Aging Formula Grant. The first one is for the actual uh general expenses. You can see it was a balance of 628357 circled. It's the fourth number down

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under current year total balance 628357. And then if you go to the next page which is the FY24 salary expenses which is the 5101 account you can see that the expenses are 628257 which is 0.

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Okay, then on to uh page five, the FY 25 state grant which started off with $82,90.81. The very first column you'll see to your left are the outstanding purchase orders

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that we have at this time and they amount to 12,3227. Uh in the next column over you can see what was spent in May. The next column over you can see what was spent year to

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date. And at the very bottom you can see the available balance before salaries which are for the instructors um which was um 50 50,86423 and after that the available balance is

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38,54 I mean the salaries and the other outstandings are 38,54126. So in that account, the FY25 grant after all the purchase orders and everything are taken out, there is at the moment or

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was on on Friday 24,29582 balance. Are there any questions at all about the FY25 state grant? I want to reconcile the munis page with you just so you know there are differences in these numbers but the

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reason is uh we did a change order for 27 uh change order we did a request for fund transfers expenditures of 272440 so if you take the balance the available budget of 4126566 you subtract the 272440

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it gives us the 38541 which is what we're reporting as our available balance before salary His salaries are 14,24624. You can see that on the next mun page what our salaries are, which leaves us

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an available balance of 24 295 since uh Friday. I just want to let you know we've already processed about a $12,000 request for fund transfer of expenditures from the revolving funding to the state grant. My hope is to be able to apply enough expenses to the

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FY25 state grant to close that out this year and not carry it into another fiscal year. Um it's kind of a pain in the for duties to try to manage and balance all of these. So we are uh with Terry and Karen our auditor. We're

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trying to uh work to to to manage those expenses to go down. If we do carry over, it'll be a very small one up into FY27. >> And that will be a good thing to get another grant closed down. Any questions

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for Mike about the FY25 state grant? If not, we will move right on to page six, which is the FY26 state grant. And we have not touched that yet. We will probably start very soon. At the moment, there is a balance.

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is what we received from the state $89,136 and that is the balance as of this moment as I said nothing has been spent out of that grant yet but we're ready to roll and I that is my report I Mr.

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chairman. That is my unless there's any questions that is my report. >> Okay. >> All right. We have a motion. >> I'll make a motion we accept the report is read. >> I'll second off the mic, please. >> Thank you.

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>> Second. Until >> Okay. All in favor? >> Thank you. Hopefully discussions from discussing it please. Okay. All in favor also.

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Okay. Thank you. Next thing on our next thing on our list is the uh uh old business and update of new business from the prior meeting and we will be starting off with street. I'm going to defer. Uh folks, for those of you who don't know him, um joining us

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today at our meeting and you spoke earlier, I didn't really get a chance to introduce him, is our mayor, Mike Nicholson. Um Mike, who's been intimately involved with the Walker project, and he and the city council president have asked for an opportunity to come and speak about it. I think today um is probably just uh setting up

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the foundation for more presentation and update. >> Yes. Um so, thank you very much, uh Ron. Thank you very much, Mike, and everyone here. I really appreciate the time to come talk. Um, you'll probably be seeing a little bit more of me uh coming up pretty soon, too, because as you know, the project progresses too, we want to

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make sure everyone's on the same page. So, the city charter actually says that every committee that this mayor appoints, the mayor is actually an ex official member of. So, I actually uh while I haven't been here at most of your meetings, I'm an ex official member of the Council on Aging. So you'll be here so that either myself directly or

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someone from my office can come provide you updates on how the project is moving forward as we kind of get into this you know start to see the light at the end of the tunnel type uh phase of the project that's here. Um so as Mike did mention you know council President George Tyrros and I uh do want to stop

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by uh you know it wouldn't be today just because we want to make sure that we have a full presentation on it. people know what to expect and we get an opportunity to first get some questions from uh you know the members of the council on agency to see you know we can give you updates and we'll give you the updates but is there something else that you look for that we not might be

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thinking of when we put our updates together. So between now and when we have that please do email me your questions so that we can put all of that together into a full presentation because while the council agent doesn't normally meet as your regular meetings over the summertime we can call it special meetings so long as there's 48

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hours advanced notice. Um, so if that means, you know, there's a diff there's a day and time that works, you know, Council President George Harris and I can come in and give the full update. So that's that's the mini update that I've got for you today is that we've got a fuller update with a bigger picture timeline that's coming forward. Um, that

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we'll work on getting a date together. I'll talk to Ron and Mike to get that scheduled on the book so that the two of us can come in and give a full presentation on that. Um, probably not something like we had the last one where it was this full big PowerPoint presentation, we went through everything. this is going to be more of, you know, like these are the concrete

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steps that we've got to take for the next couple steps um to get things going. And to use that phrase as a segue, even though I I didn't plan on doing that, I'm with Mike Ellis, so you always have to have a pun in somewhere. Um I do have a couple of actual updates for you on what's going on at the building. So, one of the things that we

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got a lot of feedback on from people was the the ways that the concrete outside the building, the ramps going into the building needed a lot of repair. The city council voted last week to approve funding that all of the concrete on the outside of the building is getting redone. So that means in the front entrance, that means at the senior

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center entrance, that means on the side of the building that's over by Wilder Field, everything's getting fully redone. If it's concrete outside, you can get it's bet it's going to be ripped up and replaced with brand new concrete. Um, that way we don't have to worry about uh accessibility issues. If

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someone's in a wheelchair or has mobility issues and can't use stairs, uh we don't have to worry about the existing ramp having potholes in it that makes it so that even if it is a ramp, it's harder to use it. Even if it's basically become a step at this point because of the size of the pothole that's there. All of that's going to be redone. Uh we also have money set aside

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to fully repave the parking lot that's there and it's actually being extended a little bit. If you drive by Waterford now, you'll see where the old playground used to be on the twotory wing. That playground equipment's been moved. The rubber mulch has mainly been taken out at this point. But I think there's one more suite we've got to do a bit to get it all out of there. That's going to be

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part of the parking lot now. Uh and we're going to add a couple more spaces a little bit further down that way as well too. Uh just to keep things, you know, uh working once we get the final map and that's going to be one of these things that uh whenever, you know, we get to have this meeting and full presentation and have these regular updates that'll be provided with the

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parking plan will look like the site too. Uh so there's a lot of different things like that that are happening. There's work going on inside the building right now. The inspections are currently being done. Once the inspections are done and we have a you know this is all signed off on this is where things are. We'll give you those at that point too. Um the reason why I

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just don't want to until we get the final report and paper that's signed off saying we're good to go. I don't want to cause anything where we're having you know speculation this maybe it's this maybe it's that and plan A gets confused for plan B and vice versa and everything. So what we're going to do is give you everything the way it is how it

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is at the moment when it's there. That's not to say that if you have another question ask the question. We're here to answer the questions. I we just don't want to put too much out there at first that people get confused on well what's the set and because we have a plan A, plan B, plan C, but the moment we say

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this is plan A, plan B, plan C, people think there's one plan and they pick which one of them that is and it goes around from there. We all know how the game of telephone goes. So we just want to make sure everyone's clear on that. Uh so all of those things are happening. All of those things are being moved forward. Now with the rest of the building too, there's some work that's uh you there's amendment to at least

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before the city council tonight for growing places. That's to add an existing room. So that's the old teachers lounge that's in the back by the uh by the old locker rooms or the old nursing room if you're my age. It's the old girls locker room that was there if you were there as a student before.

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Um that is uh being added to their lease just so it's it's covered under their lease agreement. That's something that they've been using as a you know we've let them say like you know if you need some office space when you use that for a little bit. We're adding it to the lease just to solidify that they're using that space. That's that's something that they've been using for a little bit now that we're trying to just

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make sure it can now that they we know that they can use it. They know that it fits their needs. We're documenting it. That has nothing to do with the twotory wing. That has nothing to do with the space that the garden is utilizing in the building. That has nothing to do with the cafeterium. That's a shared space and nothing to do with the

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gymnasium. That's still a shared space. The other update is uh we've got a new neighbor uh in the building as well to get Gardener Educational Television is going to be moving out of Gardener High School. Uh we're combining Gardener High School and Gardener Academy into one building together in the high schools

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that there's some spaces in Gardener High that we're going to put Gardener Academy in. Uh so if you go to Waterford on the opposite end of the gym on the door that's out by Wilder Field next to the old boiler room, that's where GED is going to be going. So, they're going to

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have their studio space in there. So, all the programming that they do is going to be recorded in that building. Uh, so that's happening over there. Uh, so those are the brief updates that we have. Again, I'm going to work with Mike and work with Ron so that we get a more full update, but you'll also see me at these meetings from here on out. So, that it's not just like, oh, you're

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going to give us an update and then we're going to ask some more questions after we don't know how to ask those. That's why I'm going to try to keep coming to these as often as I can. And if not me, like I said, it will be me unless there's a uh another, you know, this is coming up. this is, you know, you need to be here type situation, in which case I'll send one of my staff

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members back uh here who makes every effort to try to be here to answer those questions for you. Um are there any questions people have now? Yes, >> Mr. Mayor. Um have the ramps and lot repaving has that already gone up to bid? >> Not yet. >> It'll be focus on do you have a timeline

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on? >> Yeah, we're trying to get it as best as we pay the all this stuff has to be done before it's cold again. Now, the issue is it's a little cold outside right now, too. I wasn't expecting snow on Saturday either. Um, but the bid package is being put together right now. Now, we already have a contractor who does paving with

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us. We go out to bid for all paving from the city. >> And that's already down and taken care of. Uh, so it's the concrete work that's done. The thing is, we can't put pavement down. If we're going to rip it off in a month, put the concrete down. Concrete's going to go first. >> Exactly. So, the concrete is going to go first. That bid package is being put

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together. That'll go through purchasing. Once that's done, it's probably about It's probably, and I'm going to say these as estimates. Now, again, these are estimates, the flexibility with it. It's normally a 30-day bid period, >> uh, two week mobilization, and then however long the timeline is, that we'll

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get that timeline from the bid. >> So, maybe by August things might be rolling >> by, >> not holding you to it. Yeah. But, but I'm just trying to in my head visualize one on the calendar. So, >> yeah. You got to remember I work for the government. So I'm going to add three

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months and if something should happen right that's going to delay if all of a sudden there's a bid challenge or something like that. We're not going to be paving in December or January >> or even demo demo what needs to be done. >> Yeah. Okay.

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>> Yeah. Um and when we when we have this meeting where you know the council president we'll show you what that works in a little bit too so you can see it too. >> Thank you. Wow. >> Mr. Mayor, um let's talk about parking for a second. Yeah. >> Cuz you had just mentioned a new tenant

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and of course to me that's like oh more cars in the parking lot. What is the current estimate estimation on how many parking spaces we're going to have >> because as you know that's always been an issue here >> and um

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so take it from there. >> The so at least with the new tent let me address that part first. So that where they're on the opposite end of the building, they'll be on the opposite side of the building. So those three cars that they have cuz there's only three staff members work on TV station can go parked by the old superintendent's office. So the annex

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building down by the field, they can park on that side. There's a little access road up that way. Um so you'll see them on that side more than you you won't see them on your side of the building that's there. The actual number of parking spots I'll have to get from the city engineers office when they're done drawing them out. I know it's going up and I know it's more than what you

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have here. I just got to figure out what the actual number is, >> okay? >> Because I'm thinking, you know, say CAC, us whatever, you know, something's going on in each of these organizations, they need more parking spaces for each group. So, I'm just, you know,

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>> you know, people who would go to maybe uh CIC for the seniors may come may decide to stay and go to some activity that we're out there. So, you know, I just hope that we're not going to do that part complaints again about marketing.

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>> No, I get it. Listen, all of that, believe me, I get them, too. Cuz if you're getting no complaints here, I can promise you. >> Um, but that's that's where all of that's being taken into consideration. >> Correct. >> One of the things that I've noticed going by, we still have

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that big awning thing, whatever. It took a lot of parking space. And I've heard people from here come to the senior center mentioned, where are we going to park when we go? I have to park in water street down by church street and go look for up towards the Baker Street side. That's going to just be a long walk for some of them. So how

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>> there is a there is a permanent solution that's being come up for that one. That structure is a temporary structure that won't be there uh by the end of the year. Um that coming out >> yeah the carport that's there that that isn't a permanent structure that's only temporary for now. The longer term plan

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is going to be there. I will say there you can see when you there's yellow lines in front of it. that was, you know, the traffic lane so you don't get too close to the sidewalk that used to be there. That's still going to be the traffic lane so you don't get too close to people going in and out of those refrigerators either. Uh because we do need to make sure that people are safe when they're going in and out of those

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refrigerators. That's not mean it's going to take away parking area there too. So that that is something that's all being looked at too. Like I said, I don't want to keep saying that that's something that's being looked at, but until we have the finalized details, I don't want to say this is what's happening to then have that change next month and be like, oh well that's it's

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because it's still being worked out. There may be a preliminary idea that's had, but we try not to share the preliminary changes until they finalized. That way you people know what's actually going to happen. So it's not one of those, oh, I think this is going to happen and I think this is going to happen. >> You and I have had this discussion though. I think one thing that would be

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very helpful for us or me is to be able to be in the room to talk about those ideas. Yeah. >> So that rather than something being implemented and then finding out that it has a negative impact on one of the other tenants,

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>> we can address that ahead of time. So money isn't being spent and time isn't being spent effort is being spent on people's reactions are, you know, maybe exaggerated. Um and and I talked to you prior I'll mention in public because I think it's probably the most important

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thing you know we could do from our side and I know you agree because you have been you know really poking at that to try to get that done but if we could do that I would be appreciated question >> I had a question. >> Yes. Um is there going to be increased

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amount of um handicap spots only because our population is 75 >> and older is now like 50 and up. >> Yeah. All that like excuse me >> really in the meeting that's

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32 in a couple months. Um, no, I I will say yes, all of that is, you know, this distance to walk, not only that, but they need to be closer. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I can tell you I like I said, I don't have the specific numbers, but I can tell you that's all part of the discussions that are being had. >> It's not going to be it's hopeful to be

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one of the 10 that we have here. Five at the end. >> Five. Yeah. >> Mr. In your mind, do you have a timeline on when you want to bring these ideas and thoughts to conclusion and then next to action steps and now we're acting on them? an idea that

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>> I'm very glad you asked that and you know if the camera isn't here because what's the uh you know do I have an idea of when I'd like to see these timelines go into effect so they're operating through how feasible >> does yours line up with what reality is right >> now I'm going to answer this in a couple

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different parts the first governmental thing the first part is when the question was when do I want these to go forward I can promise you that I have been wanting ing this to move forward just as much as everyone in this room. Uh I have been you know hope I I seeing

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this open and the vision take reality and people in the building and the tenants actually utilizing the space >> right has been something that I have been wanting to see happen for a very long time. The uh setbacks that we've had the

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delays that have been come forward all this other stuff are the bane of my existence. I work I want this to move forward just as much and I understand the frustrations that people have had because of that. Uh because I feel them just as much too. Believe me, I'm not feeling it in the way that like, oh, I

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want to use the new site in the new senior center. I got a couple years before then. Um but I want to see it happen too, believe me. Like as someone who's overseeing this project, I want to see this movement happen. That's why I said, you know, aim for a 30-day bid

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period. Aim for a 30-day or so review and mobilization period. Aim for a twomonth construction period. Um, I'd like to see something happening there by the end of the year. I'd like to see something in there earlier than the end of the year, but I say I'd like

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to see something in the end of the year because I've seen a lot of this project happen where we have a timeline and then something comes up and the timeline's no longer what it was before. So that's why I'm saying end of the year. Don't get discouraged by that. I'm because now I'm adding time to what my internal timeline

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is on my end just to be safe. Um, and I think that's going to be a good the excuse me, the majority of the conversation that we have when we have this meeting with the council president and I is what do those timelines logistically >> logistically that line up to reality,

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>> reality and everything look like so that we can line those all up so that everyone's on the same page at that point too. You know, I've asked Mike, and I've said this before in a couple different meetings, uh, to, you know, start working with me on what's a conceptual 90-day plan. So that when we're aligned on that 90-day plan, we bring it here and be like, "Okay, now

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what's the 90 day plan look like for here?" And then we can bring that up to, you know, the city council be like, "Now, this is what the 90-day plan looks like for I'm moving from this building to that building, and how does that work? How does that look?" That's why I think in your minutes it said something about getting the group together to figure out what paint goes with what?

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That's part of the 90 days. we got to paint it. Um, and figure out what phase is in each of those 90 days and things of that. Um, so all of those things are going to be conversations that we have. So that's why like again I understand a lot of what I'm saying today is I I

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don't want to jump the gun on the meeting that you know council president and I are going to have because he is just as much as I am committed to this project and he is just as much as I am wants this to happen and move forward just as much as we all do. Um, so I think having that meeting where we can

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all get together and just be like, "This is where everything currently stands. We have this information now. All this other stuff," I think is needed. Um, and I think will help, uh, keep moving things along forward. Um, not to go off of my soap box on the beginning of that one about, again, I get it cuz I'm just as frustrated that, you know, this isn't

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moving forward as quickly as we would have liked it to at the beginning, but all we could do is move forward from here and get things going the way it's supposed to be going. >> Thank you. No. >> Can I ask a question on the power supply and all that for the building? >> Yeah. >> When you were here with George and the

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big presentation was mentioned that back then that the different people coming in CNC will be going in. They're going to be using electricity and coating and things like that. You got the people from growing places and that we're going to be there also. There was talk about putting another >> added powerage transformer whatever. I

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know it takes a long time to get it looking for the deposit in the bulldo. How long it's taking them to get their stuff and they're just coming in. They get the money in the paper. >> So, how long are we looking for something like that that we don't blow fuses? >> Yeah. So, I can tell you that the power supply that's in the building now as it

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stands for the tenants that we've listed CAC ground places senior center get the power. What we have to take a look at is if we start expanding. Where the senior center is right now is air conditioned. If we added air conditioning to the rest of the

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building, we'd have too much. Where the senior center is right now has extended outlets. If we were to extend those outlets the rest of the building, that's where we have too much. But we have the money that the city council already voted to approve to upgrade the electrical system to double the stat the size of the electrical system that it

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already has. We've begun those conversations with National Grid. That's not going to be something that's done now. we have enough for what we have now. We won't have enough if we expand now before then. So that's probably a phase

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2 conversation of the building. And so that I'm glad that's a good uh point that you ask that long story short, we've already started the conversation with National Grid. Um I'm glad you brought up Bria Coffee downtown as the example. Now, Bria Coffee had a 24ish month wait period before their

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transformer came in and then another 18 months after that before their meters came in because of the supply chain issues that they had with National Grid. That's not a city issue. That's not a Bria issue. That's not a contractor issue. That's not a landlord issue. That's a national grid supply issue. They can't get them organized. So,

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that's why we started those conversations now so we can get the ball rolling and get that timeline started so we can always see something down the line. with power that building is a massive foot that massive foot plan is the ability future future solar panels up on top so that it lowers we switch over to

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minis and it lowers our energy consumption therefore freeing the money in our budget and you're smiling so go ahead >> I'm sorry I think you're reading my notes ahead of time here >> um two years ago um and I'm going to talk about supply chains again two years ago the city council approved putting

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solar on the roof um the company has worked with National Grid. Here's the issue when it comes to supplies in solar panels is that what we were told by National Grid is if we wanted to do a big solar array and we were in Medford,

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they turned it on yesterday because we're out here, everyone's seen the mailers that we've been getting in the mail and the post from National Grid and everything else that they're working on updating what's called their transmission lines. The transmissions lines are the power that's made here that's shipped out to Boston to help

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power Boston. Gardner has enough residents here but more power produced here than what the residents and the businesses use. And that's because the college and the prison are self sustaining with the windmills. When they took those off, naturally we lost their two biggest customers in

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gardening. It's why the solar panels at the hospital took 10 years for them to turn on is because they needed the hospital to use up the electricity. Otherwise, we have too much electricity here than what we're using. And they until they're done fixing those wires that bring the power from the gardener out to the Boston area. And it's not

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just gardener, but this region uh out to the Boston area, they they need customers to eat out that electricity that they're producing. So, what we were able to get them to do for us over the course of the last 2 years is we're in a pilot program that National Grid is making special for cities and towns

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that's called a behind the meter program. So right now if you have solar panels out in a field like we have over behind uh the cemeteries that wire those those solar panels send power out into the grid and then we get it back sold to

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us at a discounted price from national grid. So the power is going from the city to national grid from national grid back to the city. What a behind the meter system is is the power that's produced directly from those panels goes directly into the building to power the building before the meter even hits. So

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it never crosses where that meter is. So then in the winter time when we got snow on the roof then we'll pull in power from the grid. In the summertime if we got too much electricity than what we're using, the power will go back out into the grid at that point in time. But that way it's kind of regulating how much is

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in this grid all at once. and the grid meaning power lines that send power to other people in the city so that we're not overloading those power wires until they have the system already set up on their end. >> Thank you. >> Julie, I just had one quick question. Um I know

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you mentioned earlier that if people have specific questions, who should they go to? Is there a project manager? Is it director office? Who is the best person? >> That's a great question. I'm glad you said that, Julie, cuz I should have said that earlier. If you have questions between now and whenever we schedule

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this meeting, contact Ryan Egan in my office. His uh email address is r e g a ng gardener-m.gov. Just like Mike's email address, just like my email address. He's the main

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point person for this building right now. Um so if you have any questions, send them to him. he'll send them to me and you know the council president and I will talk to make sure we get all those addressed. Um but that's the one person you should be sending all your questions to. That way you can get them at least in one spot cuz the thing is if I start sending you can send them to me, you can

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send them to him, you can send them to him. We're going to miss a question inevitably. So having that one point person there makes it so we can at least get them all answered. >> Thank you Brenda. Also, >> no on the egress of the building.

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>> The way the senior center is set up now, we have the big ramp by the doors at the front. There's a hallway that connects to the gym. If there's a situation that happens in

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that hallway that blocks those two entrances off, the rear of the building has a stairwell in it with stairs. If we have somebody with wheelchairs or mobility

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uh chairs, how are they going to get out of there? So, uh, the way that that was being looked at, do I have the specific answer for you? No. I'll come back with that when we have this whole meeting. Um, but all of those questions need to be answered for the occupancy certificate to be given in the end. So, I can tell

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you that all of that does have to be looked at and approved by fire code, building code, even the health code to make sure that everything's there. Uh, so all of that is stuff that's going to be looked at as part of that process. And again, I just don't have that information right here in front of me, but I know someone's already looking at

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that. And I think that also speaks by the way to the com to the question about handicap parking is going through zoning or going through building permit. They allocate you know a requirement for the number of spaces for

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particular spaces being occupied and a percentage of those are handicapped spaces. I would assume that they go up higher for the senior center because it's a higher number of folks that have uh placards. And just a quick comment on that, when we do off-site uh we've seen

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that when we do off-site events, the number of people that ask us to use the handicap parking spaces is 20 times the number of spaces that are available. Um and then when I did the golf course, we put more handicap spaces in there for

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those who don't know because every golfer has a handicap. add a little bit of this very topic there. Um, so I'll just say that this is, you know, this is good feedback to start giving information we could use at the next meeting. I will say like like I

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said, council president and I do want to come and give this full update. Uh, it's something that he and I have talked about on quite a couple of occasions. So, uh, if you have any questions, send them to Ryan at the email address I send you I gave you. Uh, you know, a lot more stuff will be presented here. This was

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very high level stuff. Um, but we'll be able to, you know, have a fuller conversation that's there. J, you can see me in a lot of your meetings coming up as I said. And then also I know uh the one of the city councilors, councelor Liza Pasinskis, who chairs this uh council's economic development committee that is overseeing Waterford

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uh has extended an invitation to once a month. She's asked me to provide an update to them as well too. Uh and those are public meetings that are available to so you can contact you know we'll get the information to Mike on when those updates are occurring. uh so that you can see that and if anyone wants to go to those you're welcome to attend those

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too as well. I would just make one note with the chair and the mayor's um kind of approval or anonymous just from a process thing. It might be easier to have things go through a clearing house rather than you know 12 or 14 numbers that say I'll send their questions

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especially if they're the same question maybe better through the office and we'll compile those and send it along on behalf of the council agent. Yeah. One more question. >> We had talked about it before. >> On the high-rise side of the building,

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there was a pathway that used to come in. The kids use it all the time. Uh about possibly having that paved over so that the residents of the high-rise or West could

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uh access the senior center easily. Uh so that is something that I know we're also looking at particularly while we're paving the area. Um there's just certain things that we have to look at about when we're required to get a gate and when we're not required to get a gate if we do pave it because we don't want vehicles going down. They're not authorized to go down that section

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because then you're getting other side of the building that's not as you know controlled. It's not supposed to be an entrance for vehicles directly at that point. But it is something that we're looking into. >> Well, I'm not talking I'm not talking roadway. I'm talking >> yeah it's if you there's a gate there now

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because they were using a portion that path for vehicles at one point in time. So all long and short we talk about the solar panels now you're talking about stand up panels but on top of the >> on the roof >> it's the condition of the roof.

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>> So part of the project is redoing the roof. So they they're required whenever they do that to give us a lease payment for the roof. And just like if you rent an apartment and you fix your apartment, it's deducted from your rent. We've got an agreement with them for lease over improvement for the roof before they put the panels on.

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>> No, I got it. >> How do we stand about the hallways in the school about the lockers out? I think this have time to think we're going to take then all of a sudden we take time to take them out. >> I think that's going to be more of a conversation when we have this other meeting. Okay. later on.

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I just like I don't have so many details in front of me so I don't want to say something on a guest and I have to take back. >> Well, this has been good. I think um I think you probably have a lot of other questions as do I. So um I'm eager to have the presentation. I think the last

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time was was very um informational, educational. Um and it feels like we're getting closer to the end, which again, as we get closer to that date, it really for me emphasizes the need for more kind of collaboration and coordination among

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all the partners and players, which I know that Ryan is really kind of moving into that role. So with that folks, if you're okay, we'll let the mayor um kind of get on with his busy day and >> Oh, good. Okay. Take four.

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>> I don't. >> All right. Next thing on our uh list is new business. And we'll have Michael give us a report uh from the senior house. >> I'm the mayor as opposed to my technologist. Um >> he'll just add on to it. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean we're we're coming

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into probably our two slowest months in August. That being said, we still have a full complement of programs and services scheduled in the next two months. Um, typically we have a little bit of a lull in the beginning of July, which allows us to do some major infrastructure work

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here at the center that we may hold off doing. But, um, as you've I think seen, we're able to address one of the biggest issues and concerns, which was the emergency exit. This year done some painting and improvement rust remediation. We placed on some um

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support beams for the ramp this past year. We'll probably look at doing a little bit of that in the other parts of the fire escape that come off of our offices. Um some things coming up that I want to make sure you know about. We have our full reser patriotic and summer

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events including our ukulele concert on July 1st. Hope you join us for that. Our outing is scheduled for July 22nd. We opened up tickets today and I've seen a rush of people get in for that. It's a great event. We get a ton of volunteers

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for that event and have just a wonderful partner in the Templeton Fish and Fun Club. There'll be folk chicken dinner. Um, and we're keeping cost as we have for the last 3 years. So, um, we are not increasing uh that expense. We have our

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shredding and and recycling event on July 11th. Uh, super important. We're looking for volunteers again. AP sends us a ton of people. You can never have too many. Last year we did about 1,000 lbs of electronics. We did 3 12 tons of

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paper. Um, and in the last year we did about 13,000 lbs of textiles. Um, which has been great. Those textile dumpsters out in our parking area have really um been working well. It's a great convenience for the citizens of garden

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and our seniors and it puts a little bit of residual income into our pocket. >> July what? Excuse me. >> July 11. So get your any of your tax documents you've been holding on to, you want to get rid of old utility bills. This is the time to get rid of them. We

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can leave them with our volunteers. We put them in bins until the bin is full and is able to go into the truck. If folks are really interested in ensuring that their documents are shred, that they can say and actually watch the documents go through the shredder. There's a little window. It's kind of

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cool. Um, >> is there a fee for there is a fee for some electronics? And the fees, uh, the fee schedule is available here, but if folks don't want to come here, they can go on the raw materials website to see. We charge what we are charged. So we

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don't up um you know raise the prices up at all for that. Um but we collect it on that Saturday so we can kind of collect bulk stuff and then we bring it all down to them on Monday and pay the proverbial bill. So um again works out really well

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for seniors that are getting their some of their spring and summer cleaning done. I want to get rid of these these old uh things and it's a nice complimentary reminder when you're taking care of your paper to take care of your electronics and other stuff. There a lot of really good programs

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coming up and I'd love to highlight them all but being mindful of people's times. I just want to remind you that this Wednesday we have our caring decisions preparing for the future with back funeral homes um at 1:30. In 2 weeks we have the golden age club which will be their ice cream social. In four weeks we

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have June 24th which is the installation of officers at the AERP annual meeting. So hope that you join us. Um we got a world concert coming up. We have tickets in hand now for Christmas Carol and the

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Boston Pops uh performance in uh for the holidays which by the way is pretty cool because we got those in advance instead of actually going on sale. So we have great seats. It's a good night. It's a little pricey and we're hoping to get that price down or mitigated a little

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bit, but it's still a pricey night. And then the last thing I really want to just talk about is the the new addition to our newsletters. If you haven't been paying attention, we have our senior center trading cards we're putting out now. So, um profiling some of the volunteers. We have literally a year's

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worth of um recommendations for trading cards. But I always welcome and encourage you as board members in your experience and work here at the center. If there's somebody who has really risen to the level of your um you know seeing and and being impacted by what they do,

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if you'd like to recommend somebody for a training card, we would love to hear from you. That's all I have cuz I imagine we'll have a a robust open discussion. Huh. >> Well, I could I guess we will. Anybody have any to bring up for discussion? Is

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this open discussion? Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Um >> want to make sure the light is on call for >> Oh yeah. I have been um as you know I may have mentioned to a few of you about how um we can more people in

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uh and how we can get more people to use our center. Um one of the segments you know isolation and and antoization can create loneliness. they can raise an environment that can kill a lot of

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people. Um, they're deadly killers. Um I'm looking at you know the segment of population that doesn't get probably some focus on and I want to talk to the office of elder affairs

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about appealing to the LGBTQA whatever it is now this week um elderly or senior because we are this generation I have been out since 1972 I never look back. That's me. I'm a

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different person, but it was a different time. I never thought I would see the day where I got married. I did. Um I never thought that I would see the day where samesex couples could have adopt children. Um but many my generation

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were too old to adopt a child. Um and that's my reason why I don't have any kids. I have dogs. Um so right there they don't have any grandchildren or children

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and sometimes we then cities tend to fade into the background they call it fade into the background because we have outlived our usefulness and I refuse to believe that but trying to prove that again you know you we keep saying we're

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at this age where we don't prove that to anybody but we are because we want to show people we're a vital segment of the population. So, what I would like to ask the board is that I'd like to pursue some research on this. How what kind of programs are out there

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with other senior uh centers? Um what kind of models, what kind of uh cohorts that we can look at and say, you know, where where LGBT film festival would be good. I know that Ashraham has a rainbow

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dinner. Um but I wonder how that's doing. you know, I want to make contact with them. But I would like to see if the Elder Affairs Office in Boston has worked on this and who can present us with some models how we can pursue it because I think as you said, the more

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people we get in here, that helps us as far as state grants. >> Um, not necessarily state grants, but it certainly makes the use of our money more efficient, right? More productive. And as you said, it addresses the issue of isolation and loneliness. Let me just mention a couple things to call into

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this group. Uh the rainbow dinner is not sponsored by the senior center. The rainbow dinner is sponsored by the church but is funded by anybody know the monetization task force. Um so we we give them a sizable brand every year so that they

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are able to afford the food for their rainbow dinners. Um, in addition, the Garland Senior Center um sponsors and co co-sponsors a group, an LGBTQI support group for folks that are not only in the community, but for folks who love somebody in the community who are just

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trying to figure out like how can I support somebody in a way that is healthy and meaningful. Um, especially I know you mentioned uh your age and when you came out, but there are a lot of seniors who for the first time in their lives are experiencing a family member,

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a child, a grandchild in the LGBTQI community and have a really hard time relating. Um, I certainly did grow up in the error of pronouns. Um, and and then we we do actually have an LGBTQI group uh as a count on aging cohort. So,

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directors and we're trying to do that. I'm going to encourage you this. I'm going to just say this. I know you say we want to look out and see what else is out there and research it. >> We don't have to. Like, if you have an idea, >> we'll just do it. Yeah. I mean, if it

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makes sense and we can make it happen, we'll make it happen. So, as you look around, maybe we can use a model, but we can also pick outside the box and do something on our own valition. >> Okay, that's a good point. The other point I wanted to make, I didn't get to make that is people my age, I'm I'm

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going to be 73 this week. >> Happy birthday. >> Oh yeah. I'm using that f word between the seven and the three. Um >> at this stage of the game, a lot of us of my generation, we're not used to being in welcoming

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environments. So, they're going to say, "Oh, I'm not going to go to CD Center and be prejudged or um be discriminated against or deal with the backlash that a lot of us have endured in our younger years.

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Maybe even still, you know, a lot of us are they're not like me. They're not all out of the closet now and don't care. There are a lot of them that are living quiet lives and but they also don't want to, you know, be mistaken for somebody that they know.

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So, I don't know. I think I'd like I can do research. Trust me, my journalism background has has held me well on this, but I would like to pursue that and give you updates along the way. >> Absolutely. I will see you here. >> Okay. Right. Thank you. Um, and just

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again to to remind folks for support groups we do here, we do a men's support group, we do a woman's support group, we do an LGBTQI support group, we do a veteran support group, we do a memory cafe dementia support group, we do weight management support group,

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>> and there's one more there. >> Um, no, but Fittburg State College, I understand, has an event that >> they still do. So yeah, maybe that's a way for us to promote um

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>> that that community and to have a group from Garden Go. By the way, it's I've heard it is an absolute crazy event. I've been invited several years um at different tables. I haven't had a chance, but I'm going to keep saying, "Oh, you're missing a great event." So yes,

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>> thank you. >> You want me You want me to use my paper? >> Oh, because it goes on the line. >> Okay. Do we have a group that is for grandparents who have adopted their grandchildren or who have custody, legal

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custody of their grandchildren or a younger child, grandparents raising grandchildren. So, um yeah, the concept is not new. about I'm going to say four years ago, maybe it was 3 years ago, we started to broach

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that subject of creating one here. Um, many senior centers thought that that was a need, but Central Mass Agency on Aging rather, and this is going to come up, they thought it would be a better um

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approach to do a centralized response to that than kind of the satellite responses. So rather than having rather than supporting us and creating our own grandparents with grandchildren support groups locally, they did out of Worcester. So there's a

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grandparents resource center now out of Central Mass Agency on Aging. Um but I still think that there's a real opportunity for us to do it here. We have the people, we have the skills. Okay, >> nice. Yeah, I think they would. I mean, why not? We've been very successful in

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our small group, so why not have that? >> Yep. Makes sense. Anybody else? Then I'm going to say something. Michael, I want to thank you and Lori for what you did last Wednesday at city hall. It was enjoyable. Come to see a lot of tables from different

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organizations in the city and in the area. Uh just want to make one point. Uh I was sitting at the table next to the secretary, I guess she is, to the attorney general. And so we had a nice talk and she happened to see our brochure of the scene center on the

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table. So she grabbed one and she took a look at it and she was surprised at all the stuff that we have. >> She says I've gone to senior centers other places and she they don't have what you have here. And she looked at it and she says it's a color besides she says I can't believe it. So I just want to say uh I'm glad that we have Michael

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to do the the newsletter like that and all that but it's the word's getting out. I got a friend who lives in Maldo and he gently you know these sorts of people out there and they're all saying how did they find all this time to do all these different things that we do and I said well we have people who had experience in the community whatever

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else so that I just want to say thank you for that. The other thing is now that I talk about the newsletter I know Michael sends out newsletter email I guess digital I like to find out how to get some of the city councilors that come to some of

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our functions. Oh, great. >> They don't they don't really come that often, you know. And I and I understand that they're working and stuff like that, but you would think that they somehow they would try to come at least say hi or whatever. They had a few minutes. Not come for the whole thing. Just come to say hello, whatever, see what we're doing cuz I don't have the

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white ear. So, I I'll I'll answer that briefly. And I can't speak for the 11 of them because I can barely speak for myself at this point. Um, no, that's a joke. But I really can't speak for the 11 of them. Um, the uh I know that the newsletter doesn't email them. I can tell you that because of the heightened

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amount of cyber security that we have to have on the municipal level because of just the everchanging world that we're in, sometimes form emails that come out from either cost of contact or group email and things like that are often filtered out of our inboxes. Now, we can go find it uh you know on the website, we can go find it on the various

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different avenues because it is posted different places. Uh but if there's ever something that you know like oh you know this is something that you know we'd like to you see someone come to you and again I'm not speaking for them because I I don't know the situations or the you know email filters and things of that nature. Um always feel free to email us

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all to text email call if you see us let us know. Um and we'll be able you know and we can share that with each other too. Um and that up to a certain extent as far as the open reading law allows forums emails all that different types of things that are there too. But um you know I I I have never seen any of the

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city councilors shy away from be like, "Oh, that's unless there's a work commitment, a family commitment, or something that they can't go to to be like, oh, if I can come to something, I'd like to go to something." Um that said, I will say that I'm the only elected official in the city where this is my full-time job. Um, there are, you

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know, people work during the day and it's one of those things that if there's something that's a lunch, you know, maybe they can get to you on the lunch hour, well, but it's hard to come to because if they have to then come here, I talk to people and get home and eat and then get back to work. Um, some of

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them have children, some of them have family commitments, some of them it's just it. So, there are things of that nature that I love how often I can come to things here, but I also know that I have meetings come up later, but but this is my full-time job. uh this is it's it's not a a day job for the 11 of

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them. Um even the ones that are retired, we don't have other commitments to. So I again I can't speak for them. I'm just saying that that might be something that's there too. But if there's ever something specific like, you know, this is something we really like, give us a phone call, give us an email, things of that nature. >> Seems like tomorrow they got the ukulele

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picnic be. So it's not a thing that they have to come for the whole thing, but they just came in to say hi, see who's there type of thing and say, "Hey, this is what you guys do at the safety center." that help us out. >> That's going to be cool. We have 70 to 90 ukulele players.

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>> I knew the big group would be in a lot of there's more ukuleles in guard in the garden here than there are in Hawaii. >> Any girls? >> Any girls? >> The recycling thing. They can they can

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come buy stuff people. >> That's on a Saturday. to you. Okay. Anything else? Discussions. Okay. Can I have a motion to adjourn? >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Second.

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>> Okay. All in favor? All right. >> Just a reminder folks, we do not have normally scheduled COA meetings in July and August, but we will probably have a special meeting for the purpose of getting water.

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>> And I want to thank Michael, the mayor, joining us again this afternoon. I know I I say at church. >> Thank you. I do