meeting is um back in session. Recess is adjourned. Um got a chance to review it a little further. Um questions to kick off now that you've had a chance. Uh no questions. I just want to say I really do like the um promote the years of service at minimum year fiveear
service in prior positions to qualify. I think with 10 years max to be uh awarded. Um, I think this really allows for retainment within city hall and to encourage promotion within. Um, so I think that's that's that's a really
positive um aspect to this um because there are we you know we do have people who have like the experience within the department and leave us to go elsewhere because you know they just they take the knowledge they learn here
in in Guama. Um I I have no questions. I I have to I I really like the propos the amendment and um the proposal in the salary schedule that accompanies it. No, I think you spoke to it. It provides flexibility in doing so as well because
it it's not a shall it's it's may it can it can be done um depending on the experience the the skills of the person. Um so I think it's um it's well well done that way. Um
just one item um the one section talking about determination of step for personnel employed on September 1st 2025 section 6 that's obviously current employees um section two um I don't know if we possibly add employees after September whatever the cutoff line ends up being but it's if it's something we
do follow through with um I don't know if that the delineation should be there as well for the other way just to make it clear um the and the other thing which I'm sure you're already well aware of is the the chief's uh and the deputy chief and working
what we know now into the salary because um that that part would need to get um reorganized in some way in order to reflect the current um current pay um that they are receiving. Uh but um
overall um what I've looked at so far is um is a a promising proposal um and alternative um that um should be considered as well. So thank you for that. You're welcome. Thank you. Yeah, a lot went into it
obviously um and I I think these are really good food for thought. That's one of the reasons I went with that is that question was knowing that I would have to be adjusted if that was the case. There's also a couple of positions I thought I couldn't remember if they were council approval, assistant solicitor, assistant vets director. That is the
case. Yeah. Perfect. So, that will have to be changed. And that's the nice thing. Even if you know I can even if if we put this forth, if we decide to recommend this to the full council for our meeting on Tuesday, I can I can bring more amendments to that. Um, so we could fix this language and then we'll still have first printing
as well to kind of fix and catch things. Um, I just want to ask going back to your determination steps of September one because we're really going back to the beginning of the fiscal year. Should it be July one? Borrow your compliment just to refresh my section.
Yeah. Yeah. Um That might be the case. You know, I let me I'll look back at my notes to see why and I'll get you an answer. Yeah, you're right. That's you thinking at the time saying that because we are because it is retro to July 1. Yeah. Yeah.
That that's just my question. Um, no. I will triple check um what I was thinking with that, but there was there was a rational. I'll look back at my notes. My only thought is if you picked it I I that date like that. So obviously what we're passing it so people are employed are subject to a previous
ordinance. I think that's Yes. Oh my gosh. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. So my assumption is we deal with this in September. Yes. Thank you. That's what it was that anyone hired I was looking at that maybe October. No, that makes what it was. It could be October as well. That's I think what I would want to put my notes on.
All right. So yeah, the hope would be this would benefit our current employees and then Yes. One standard for current employees, one standard for Yeah. anyone hired after that date. Yeah. Which we could maybe October 1st may end up being a better day depending on timing and
um how how this proceeds. Yeah. Um, and I guess the other question I've asked um this looks like it's in um at least some kind of Google Excel um Excel spreadsheet. I guess something where you can manipulate the numbers
which um if the opportunity to get that sentence as well to the clerk to get to everyone um that would be um I think that would be helpful. I just I ease of looking at the numbers um for me to make the PDF.
Yeah. So thank you. Um the mayor's got a chance to review it as well. I don't know if you have any comments. Yeah, this is my first time seeing it right now. So I'll, you know, dig a little deeper into it and reach out to over some things. The only thing that I would notice is the um a couple of the titles are the old titles before we
changed them in the previous in the most recent ordinance changed, but again that's in the new laws tab. Um mainly with the COA director was changed from the council on aging director to the senior center director. Just small stuff like that. Um, and also those positions that were omitted in the previous
version of the ordinance proposal that I had put up are I don't believe they're included in this here too. Is that the the sealer and the civil door fence? I think I thought it had been, but maybe I was wrong. But we can review the stuff and I'll
reach out to you again. I thought they were in there somewhere, but I will triple check. Um why not like the youth the director? Yes. So I will note that one too. So I think they're on my list of special employees that I mentioned like library
golf. The reason I I thought the youth director might fall into that category is where it is a pilot program just to see if it survives the year and then maybe go back. I think it will. I'm really excited about it. Um my thought was where it's as a pilot program maybe
pull back upon putting it into uh and then we'll revisit this. So I guess yeah that that current bucket um I'll provide as well. Yeah. Um so what's not what's not there and you are aware that's not there. Yeah. Um would probably be helpful as well. I mean I think
yeah I meant to print that off and maybe I left it on. I thought it was with the page that's why it was but it wasn't. That being said, you know, with those um I think you you you made this point, but I want to reiterate it. You know, there are those employees that are not part of
this um package that you've proposed. Um I I don't want them to think that they're being forgotten. Um that action needs to be taken on those positions as well. Um but um action needs to be taken in general. Um so I think this is um a
good start. um you've talked to some of the reasons why there's some inconsistencies of how the numbers were were put in and there needs to be more clarity. There's separate budgets that are um kind of function a little differently than the whole general um the general fund like the golf course and the the the library. They they need
to spend certain amounts of money to in order to get certain grant funding uh for the library in order to um you know how many hours they're open. Um and the course is um you know another it just things function differently there. they have a um a budget they have to stay
within based on revenue. Um but yeah, I do appreciate it and um I council Mack had anything other questions in regards to this item. Um I don't um I have nothing and but I'm I'm willing to make a motion. Please do.
Okay. I make a motion um to send councelor Hegeland's um amendment to ordinance item 11539 um to amend the city of Gardner um personnel compensate non-union compensation employee schedule to the
full council for consideration and um discuss in possible approval. Second motion made by councelor Max, seconded by councelor Hegling to send councelor Hegling's proposal that he has here before us to the full council for
consideration. Is there any further discussion? I I just want to address um what's in this would supersede what councelor Brooks amendment proposed because it's more detailed in here about the depth scale. So that's why I'm I I'm supporting this
amendment um because this is more clearly defined. Um, so I just wanted to make sure to clear it that if had we had the original proposal that we were going to recommend. Yes. But this proposal actually is is
and obviously councils you have a chance to review it and see if you have further amendments to to add at that point. Um, but thank you any further discussion from that? Nope. But just thank you everyone for the patience hearing this out reviewing it. I appreciate the uh you know positives for it. I'm going to review
some of those things. I figured there'd be some things to look at to bring for Monday as well. So, some further amendments and fixes, few pieces of information and all the fixes will be ready for the the package to go out. Yes. I just Yeah. Yes. Yeah. When we keep amending the packet, it gets Yeah.
No, I want everyone to have exactly what they need so that hopefully Monday or Tuesday. Thank you. Thank you. Any further discussion hearing? None. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed? Motion carries.
Uh item 1165 a me a measure relative to the September 16, 2025 city preliminary election. Mr. Mayor, clerk, anyone to speak on in particular? This is required by the general laws. It's basically approving the warrant for
the um for the election so that the coniples can post it at the various locations around the city so that it can officially be deemed election day. Thank you. Questions? Pretty standard. Yeah, right. Thank you. Yeah. state a motion. Um, I make a motion that item 11625 be
sent to the council for approval. Second. Motion made by councelor M, second by councelor Heglin to send item 11 1625 to the council for approval. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. All opposed. Motion carries. Uh, section 4 in subcommittee item 11482,
discussions regarding the city's health insurance payments and trust fund. Uh, any updates in regards to that, Mr. Yes, our trust fund. That's why I was trying to get my phone working here. Um, because the auditor did text me the information as he had to go to coach his son's hockey game. Um, but the trust
fund balance is currently $2,140,92152. Okay. And remind those here at home what the 2 million. Where's the call? 2 million is the bulbert. That's good to hear. It's good news. Um, I have personally no further questions. There's questions or comments from the councils.
Not for today. Maybe from the app, but not today. Okay. Um, if there's no objection, I'd like to keep continue to keep this item as part of our our committee. I agree. Yes, I agree. Thank you. Okay, this will stay as part of our committee. I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. So moved.
Second by council he second by councelor Mack to adjurnn. All those in favor say I. Those opposed. Meeting stands adjourned. Thank you everyone.