e e e for the city of Gardner on March 11th 2025 announcement to open a meeting we recording any person make a may make a
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meeting must be submitted in duplicate to the director of community planning at Community Development and planning person to the open meeting law and public records law all documents shall be become part of the official record of
the meeting is there anyone here recording audio video no guess not so [Applause] okay have can I have a motion to approve
the February 11th meeting minutes make a motion we approve the minutes as forwarded to us for the February 11th uh meeting I second second any further discussion no
discussion all in favor I oppose no opposition minut it's approved we can move on to potentially the old business first okay and then move on to the new I a lot of the people
in here okay Christine going to cover the the old business on So Christine isn't here uh but we're just going to have the technical Amendment for what I put forward uh and worked along with Christine for
uh the restrictive covenant and uh consultation provision so this is just having to do with the kind of guidelines um um there's two copies that I've kind of distributed amongst everyone if there's
anyone else that's interested in looking along with us I have extra copies over here um one of them uh showcases the uh actual changes from the boiler plate restrictive covenant um and one of them just is you can see the changes
highlighted um or slightly grayer color apologies not in full color here and uh underlined um so this was the The Covenant put forward uh for the subdivision um
covering the creation of the um you know the roadway the um needing of any uh final elements um as well as a um consultation
provision so the board having the ability to uh recommend a um engineering firm to go in and actually uh inspect the construction um periodically uh as well
as the um the owner having the ability to amend that and uh go to the mayor if there is a alternative uh option that they would like to move forward with as an alternative engineering firm um
as that so this is um for the most part pretty boiler plate and then has a few waivers included um that's included further down so one of them uh section uh a having to do with Section 7.3.2 has
to do with the use of hdp pipe rather than reinforced concrete which we've already addressed uh B has to do with the 3in or 3ft sumps also addressed at the previous meeting and approved
um uh c section 8.1 has to do with uh the appeal for the applicants regarding the board's choice of inspection consultant I just covered that as well and d section 6.6 a um is waved in part so the applicant May build upon lots and
phases that are reasonable to ensure adequate resources available to the applicant to reach final completion of the subdivision applicant May obtain any necessary permits for site work on the Lots excluding a permit to erect a building at any time the board shall release its restrictive covenant barring
the issuance of a building permit as as to any individual Lots um when the work on the ground necessary to service set Lots is substantially completed final elements such as sidewalks asphalt paving of the way and Landscaping shall not be considered work on the ground
necessary to serve a lot for the purpose of releasing the restrictive covenant for said lot the board May request that a certificate of completion and certificate of occupancy for no more than one lot may be withheld until the applicant has completed all described work by the definitive plan certificate of approval um these conditions and
other decision documents the board shall also issue a full and complete release of the restrictive covenant upon completion of all work or otherwise under the terms of the restrictive covenant um I'm pretty happy with the work that Christine and and has has done with
putting forward this and I think everyone here there a lot of um abutters I think that that have uh um you know have said their mind in relation to the last meeting and this really is uh I've
even spoken to some of them this really is insurance that we're doing our due process and due diligence to make sure that this construction is done in a way that um is both safe and you know really is an
insurance for ourselves as the city that that proper you know um Milestones are met before you know the Full Construction of all the building Lots say for example that you know main uh throughways such as the road um and
lighting and storm water and all those things are all completed you know as per needed um so I'm I'm quite satisfied with uh like I said satisfied with the work work done uh here so I don't know if anyone else had any any comments uh
related to the restrictive covenant the only question I have on the retive Covenant separate as far as permitting from the state as far as access coming off the highway and so forth is that separate to the Covenant that would be an attachment to it y am I correct yes also when we were to go into
this would we have to vote separately as far as hiring an engineering firm to represent the city if you would doing this or yeah so we we would also make a motion to then um recommend an engineering firm we would I'd present
probably a few options for us there's a couple engineering firms that the city keeps um uh on contract so I'd probably reach out to them and and and Ty and Bon and Ty and Bon fuss and O'Neal as a couple examples um and present those as
potential options for the board to uh make a motion of uh which ones they would like to move forward with and then in so case as I said in section uh c um the applicant is allowed to then appeal that decision uh if if they so choose um
if they have an alternative uh um in in uh inspection consol and that they they'd like to move forward with okay so again tonight um we would just
proceed to say yes go ahead and get an engineer at this point and proceed to the next step or are we voting on so it was just it would just be to make this amendment to the existing uh contract yeah so the approval that we already made last week this is just a technical
amendment to it motion to the amendment you have any questions here no questions I'll make a motion to the amendment from last week to attach the New Covenant as presented tonight I second as well as the uh waivers yeah as
well as the waivers any further discussion call for a vote all in favor I I the eyes have the eyes have it so I approve all right again if anyone would like a copy
of the this is going to go in public record I know a lot of people are here for this um but if anyone wants a copy of the restrictive covenant now that it's been approved I have a couple copies right here here again there's the first which is the actual change from the boiler plate
restrictive covenant to the uh amendments made by the attorney um and then they have the um actual uh waiver right here so so you just voted on something that you
guys approved last week it was a technical amendment to it yes so you had a meeting last week about last month was last month you said week oh sorry sorry you all said last week all right thank you yeah of course thank you for coming
down no that's fine okay want a body odor or something everybody leav that's why I wanted to get the old business out first I knew most of the people here from ones that um yeah so
[Music] and for this we have let's see at the bottom is the zoning Amendment we'll get to that sorry in the packets we have the proposal yeah I've included both uh
Rob's review the original application we only do have one copy of the drainage report but then there are a couple spread um site plans for us to to reference uh three copies of the small and then one copy of the large
so a and then I think rob you you also have a copy I got my copy in okay perfect I was worried I was like we have one one not enough that I don't want people sharing we state your name and you who you represent so for the record Justin
lir C engineering just want to make sure new public hearing do you have to open it technically or is it already open read no this is public hearing no no it's not no no this is just an initial review and then we'll we'll
schedule the public hearing NOP I just wanted to make sh thank you yeah so as I stayed just on Clair Mardi engineering here tonight on behalf of the applicant West May storage for the proposed Self Storage facility
on make a drive so I think most of you are familiar with the site I know you're new so I'll give you a little you did perfect so end of makeer Drive is here when you're looking at the end it's off to the right the parcel is approximately 9.7 Acres zoned industrial 2 is
currently undeveloped so we're looking to propose seven self- storage buildings totaling 169 units shown here in Brown the gray is the proposed entrance so we have two we have one here located a
little bit further down right down over here is the dpw's pump station right Rob on the right hand side it's the V it's it's the vill privately owned yeah okay second entrance is located here at the end of
make a drive so we are proposing security fencing the perimeter of the property it's a little bit faint to see here but it runs just along the edge of the pavement all the way around the back ties into the
building maintenance access gate here for this proposed soar management area and then the fence wraps around and then we have Gates proposed at the entrances these aren't electric gates they're manual so they'll be locked at the end of business day and opened up at the beginning of the business
day each unit each building is going to have solar mounted lighting this is very similar to what the applicant has done at his other facilities so it's just to provide lighting around the
buildings typical hours I believe he's 8 to 8 I think so these would be closed at night time and they would be secure so we don't need security lighting in that sense just to flip this over so you guys
can see I know it's very busy while grading so everything is designed to sheet flow to propose catch basins and drain manholes and this is all being conveyed to three stor water basins the first one
is here that you saw on the r sheet the second one is a larger one located here off to the right of the site and then the third one is located at the bottom of the proposed development and this is an underground stor Mar features concrete chambers that
will sorry all good that will take the St water and treat it discharge it appropriately we are proposing Landscaping a one m a drive so in addition to the security fence that's
going to surround the perimeter of the property let's see here did provide detail sheet that showed some Landscaping here so you can see the fence runs along just a foot inside the property line and then we have a mix of trees and shrubs that are
native species that'll provide additional screening from make a drive just to put this in perspective the site is going to sit lower than make a drive so that's why we're proposing the treat is just that way you drive in there you don't
just see buildings the this was submit to Conservation Commission we did receive our order of conditions December 9th I believe was the date so conom has seen this they've
approved it this has been an ongoing project at the time the former director had recommended that we go in front of the commission because we had a lot of we had some Riverfront some buffer zone to deal with they wanted us to get the their blessing before we came in front of you guys thanks
guys so I did receive a comment letter from Rob this afternoon I haven't had time to provide formal responses or make any changes to to plans but I would just like to take some time run through it
just have some talking points to it so the first one is the proposed wall on make a drive may require a barrier along the top of wall given the height of the wall just Rob question for you when you say barrier do you mean fall protection okay easy enough we can provide some
sort of we so it is fenced on the property line hey Al so uh this is Al bandra owner of West M storage so we do have Security Fence and proposed along the property line and we
do have Landscaping so ideally shouldn't be any issue there but we need to add a little guardrail or something like that we can yeah you'll typically have to deal with the Building Commissioner on that yeah and if he wants it easy
enough second comments uh pertain to the S mounted lighting as I said these will be on the buildings they'll AC they'll be motion censored so they'll activate when someone does come up to the unit again this isn't a 24-hour service so at
night it will will be locked away so security line isn't a major feature for this Ros a control plan we can provide easily as part of the say star ordinance we can look at moving the
drain man holes just further away what Rob is talking about in his comment is that the drain man holes here and here located against the building are tight so it could cause potential issues with the constructibility of it these are
slab on grade with a little foundation so it's not a full foundation wall but it's easy enough that we can shift the drain man holes away five is pertaining to electrical service as I stated there no electrical
service Sol mounted lighting six is sprinkler service so these are cold storage units so there's no utilities at services and the largest unit is is 6,000 ft which is
under 7500 required for sprinklers hence why we're not proposing any in addition there are two hydrants located in man drive one here right at the start of the culdesac and then a second one that is closer down by
the sewer station so there is water on site in the event that something happens but we haven't received any additional comments from fire department if they come back with any W accordingly number seven is regarding
depth of the pipe right now we do have a pipe coverage of 2 and 1/2 ft from grade to the top of the pipe typically the way that we do it is 3 and 1/2 ft from the rim to the invert of your catch Basin and then you run your pipe slope from there
so Mr ala is Ron in his comment the two one comment and one question I have is this is a private site so it wouldn't be managed by the city and I don't know if I didn't see anything in site plan RS that stay we
had to cover but I believe your subdivision RS require it so I think that's something we can Y no we can we can either change or come to an agreement that's not a big concern okay I just wanted to make make mention of
that eight is regarding the 2 to1 slope obviously to reduce our impact into buffer zon make sure that we're not entering the 30t no alteration at the Conservation Commission requires we did a lot of Two the One grading we do have
an in-house landscape architect that has a typical Hydro seed mix for this type of application we can add that note to the plan that just says it's to be sprayed in multiple directions and there's a certain loading rate that that
seed would be sprayed on nine we're not requiring any dumpsters for this the way that the owner operates these sites is it's just for storage so any trash is required to be taken out by the owner of the storage
so they come in if they have boxes or anything they store put whatever they have in there and they take their trash with them so what you're saying is the rent to brings trash in you got to bring it out yes okay yep snow storage we can show on the plan
there are areas for snow storage and I'll make would you private contract this if needed if you had to remove excess sow I have all my own equipment and yeah if we need to take snow out we take snow out yep you mind mentioning your name Alan
bandra sorry yeah Al bandra owner of West M storage the last few comments are pertain to the storm War drainage that was provided the first one is estimated high groundw was not provided in the soil testing I did speak
to Mr maret he's the one that did the testing I did not do it he forgot to write it down but he there was no modeling witness on site so we can update the soil logs accordingly into comment number 12 we
can show where the soil testing occurred so originally we were trying to not do real structures so we had tested all the way down the hill where the buildings are shown as well as in the proposed two atg grade basins after conversations with
concom zba we had to come back with real structures so we still have testing here here and here as well the comment 13s regarding free board from the top of basin from the 100-year elevation of
storm Mar to the top of basin I can provide that we can provide detail detail for the underground chamber system and then regarding the underground chamber system we can add note that States since this
is in fill we can show that the material underneath the Basin would be equal to the parent material for the infiltration rate or not contain any debris hazardous material since of that in regarding the breakout we can show a impermeable
barrier along the edge of the system that way we prevent any potential Breakout the side of the system so that was it from the city engineer if the board has any questions happy answer yeah
Jim yes please uh there's no office on site no so if I were to go down and try to rent a unit I'd probably have to catch somebody there am I correct during the day to rent something no you'd have to reach out to the main office and their number and they my office is on
Chelsea Street 161 Chelsea okay we have another facility there that's where my office is there is one there or they can fill out an application online okay they can go to my website they get all their
information they need okay and Mr bander just to extend on that he between himself and our people that work for him go around and check in on the facilities so they're not left to their own devices
so there would be someone that would periodically come in and check make sure everything's upk kept and okay going fine so this to be Mr Banger I guess the the time it was said 8 to 8 uh is just automatically locks after
8:00 so nobody can get in with the key well uh that's what we had set up before on the other one I was I'm thinking that we probably need to open up a little earlier in the morning and probably stay open till 8:00 or 9 at night and yes
everything's key coded with the gate when it's locked it's locked that's it they key code stops at a certain time we can program it like building on Chelsea Street you go in you key if you're in this section you get a number for that section and when it's closed your key
don't work they don't like it but it's the way it is now in Chelsea Street you don't have no dumpster there either no okay I have my own dumpsters I keep them in my in my yard in Westminster but no they're not allowed
uh people take your trash with you it's real simple but as us manager if there when I need a dumpster I back one up I open the door and I fill it and I take it away but if you go there during the day and you see trash around you you'd be Pi I have guys that go around and do that like I just sent them to fitzburg
today because I saw a little bit of trash we got kind of a fence at the landscape and when the wind blows it all ends up up against that's correct and that's what I'm kind oftion this morning there was enough snow gone I says bring the leaf blow blow the whole parking lot pick up all the paper Y and no we do it
I like a clean because we don't have stuff blowing on man drive into the playground of the kids and everything else so obviously it's going to be another whole story we got it are you going to have any outside
parking or storage outside of the bins no no so everything that the storage is going to be with inside the bins itself yes so I don't do any outside storage nothing on the roof nothing outside no cars park you pull in you do your business and you leave we enforce it and
we have tow trucks just come and get the stuff get it out of here it's just we don't do it you can get out of hand real fast yes we've been we've done that I read it once but how many units again you said 169 total 169 between
seven buildings now these buildings we buy we they get designed by betco this is our rendering of it and depending on the market they may say Hey you need some 5x5 and 5 by 10s
everything here is 10 x 20s we may split a few up for smaller units or even a little bigger un but it's the same square but it main yeah so the size of the the overall size of the building won't change that's
yeah and it's my my I'm sorry go ahead Jason I wasn't sure do I have to wait for no I'll just go um I'm just curious cuz I know on the other side of Mana Drive is the old English Village have they been kind of consulted about this
potential uh um kind of improvement for for the other side of m a drive just because of I I believe they a but so they're across the street they directly across the street is there any need to we've talked to the maintenance man manager we've talked to the office
manager and they know exactly what's going on and they thought they was going to be all wide open and freefor all and I says no it don't work that way this is what it's going to be and she said oh okay and okay um the other question I had was
between this and the other facilities there any restrictions on the type of materials that people are allowed to store there my insurance takes care of that they do their inspections and yes you're right you got to be Capital no no flammables yeah no propane tanks I know it's a concrete slab but just in case of
any materials being stored on site that you know just because of the closeness to the the wetlands I'm looking out for Conservation Commission too I don't no and they had that say I believe the same question a littleit but I believe they had the same comment and like Mr band just said the catch basins
typically have gas traps in them gotcha which isolates it from going out which is a good thing good y and and it will all be mounted with that that's that's part of what we're supposed to do okay that's all code yeah and based on the was I don't know how deep you got into
it before you the letter this afternoon but the sorire system was designed to be in compliance with the city Stormare RS and ordinance which actually exceeds the state's requirements so a lot of the municipalities are being told to beef up
there or Implement somew ordinances so we did that and it's really um treatment and so TSS treatment which is your suspended solids in the water and phosphorus so you're required to meet 90% And 60% we do meet that here based
on our design so may any outside lights at all during the evening it's going to be total dark no my what I have in other facilities are solar lights corre and what happens they
stay on at 30% constantly they do yeah and then when you drive up they they all light up you drive up you drive through here and they're all going to go off so people around if the lights go off and the gates are locked is a problem so this 30% light will give the units of
the area some type of light all there's enough to walk around but to say that you can go in and stop doing stuff I don't put lights inside cuz I I try to discourage people people from being there at night they may want to take residents up yeah that's against the law we can't do
that can't that nobody res I have to watch that because that happens it's happened in this area oh yeah yes or you let someone Park a camper on site next thing you know they got a fire going the fire pit and they having themselves a girl time I have a question um on the
entrance yep to the facility um it's going to be a full gate or just like a rod a bar going across that's all it's going to be a full gate on rollers and it rolls across and when you go in you're going to have to go in through a keypad and then on the way out there's a
magnetic we put on the ground when the automobile pulls up on it the gate opens up you go out and has so much time it closes okay so you don't have to hit the keypad on the way out just on the way in so then before 8:00 and after
8:00 those gates are going to be definitely locked they're closed yeah they can't get in you can punch all the keys you want okay it's the keypad uh apparent it's manually it's how how does it operate is
a battery operated is it uh no it's electric it is electric so you're going to have to run power to the gates low voltage yeah oh low voltage yeah it's low voltage and you go in you punch in your fork code and then you hit pound and it it just it they It Go and it's
all tied into my computer over on Chelsea Street so I know who's going in who's going out oh it's kind of a neat setup the way they have it these days things have come a long way sure you know how about and the cameras we're going to do the same thing I was going to say the cameras we're put cameras
solar cameras again things that come a long way you put them up and you can broadcast your signal for Wi-Fi we're going to do it up on the hill over by um Great Wolf W I got an industrial park up there and I got all my containers up there and that's what we've got going on
and it works that's been open for years never had a problem there always one time I can't think of got a question about uh erosion and sedimentation control there in construction I said and now you said you're going to provide a erosion control plan sheet but just
going back to the two to1 slopes yep um in addition to Hydro Seating would you be amenable to throwing down erosion control blankets on that just given the steepness of the slope and how close it is to the Wetland there so we I don't want to say no not not that
we just don't want to do it we tried to go stay away from those we just it's not our preference I don't know if you would be able to erosion control blankets if if need be I know you're probably going to end up doing the
work again it's it's just something else that's hanging around there that's going to get tangled up and it's it's yeah I I would rather see them come in and put Tac the fire in the Hydra seed and that keeps it intact it almost creates kind of a coating on the ground and we found
that works out really good especially on bad spots and you know there are some places it's bad spots so you control the water on the top you don't have a big problem on the sole yeah and that's the note that we have like I said our landscape architect has worked with
other companies that deal with different types of erosion and erosion control things like that and they've recommended to go away from the physical matting and blankets like that and
actually do the heavy duty Hydro seed as you're maintaining your work obviously based on size of disturbance um erosion control measures temporary sentation Bas and straw so fence all that I believe
gardeners stor Mar War requires inspections to be done on top of it so I know with the the rain the snow melt everything the past couple weeks we've dealt with it too that there's been a lot of erosion that as much as
you can prepare and have everything set up knowing it's coming you still still can't maintain it all so as I told the conservation commissioner last night there are devices in place that mitigate any
potential blowouts I I think this site needs a little common sense as well when you that talking about that because that's a headache for everybody not just you folks and the conservat for me because if we you don't go in there in the Heavy Rain season start this thing you know you just you pick your time you
pick your battles and you go in and you get your rough grading in and you build your slopes and you hide your seat them right then and there you don't wait till the end you just get it done and you can avoid a lot of stuff if you just play your cards right at this too long to know to get yourself in
trouble go over the uh the long gray entrance way again where is that the beginning located so right here so this is the beginning so there'll be a gate here and this is just so you can come in Access
the units here that run parallel with Mana and then we tie it into the rest of the site and you have a secondary entrance exit off the called the sack so your that entrance is not in the parking lot of the last house on English
Village just a c a s no this one here here yeah oh that's that one there so the English Village is yeah down here opposite of the C I just want to make sure I understand CU I was down here tonight that's why I was late I
know okay I got to now any other questions anybody I think it's just uh items in in Rob's report three yep 11
12 and 14 I believe we're the only ones so I think if we just continue with this on the agenda those addressed I think that'd be fine yeah and with that I'll provide a Revis side plans I'll provide our typical response to comment letter submit that
and go from there obviously if I know fire didn't respond I don't think police has looked at it I don't expect them to have major comments but obviously if any of the other departments respond yeah
I'll respond back accordingly they've been provided a set of plans already please I believe so so um I can double check with police and fire and I I can also because I sent
you a PDF as well yeah H happy first day here's a it was it it was my first day so if I need to resend it I I will but um we can follow up with them and make sure that they don't have anything you know you know how long this Project's going to take from start to
finish I mean depending on the weather obviously yeah I think what we we've been talking about it and we're thinking like going to start one phase button it right up I don't want to open up the whole site start the first section on the bottom right here yeah we're going to go in we're going to do a section and wrap
it up be done with it we want to one another section again depends on how the rental the rentals are going sure if they're renting fast we'll go a little faster but I really think this size project we need to just focus on the small section we don't need to disturb
everything right up front you know even if it takes a little longer doing it that way I think it's going to be safer so the paving itself is it's paved I suppose that's what you're right it is so you're going to you're going to pave per section I'm going to base code it base code the whole thing or just base
code the sections and then when it comes time we're going to top quote the whole thing yeah so I we'll have a nice nice cover yeah so I'll kind of what I'm seeing for phases tell me if you want to change it but this is probably your first phase the stuff are on Parallel at man build it put the binder down get it
stabilized y as he said depending on how the Market's going probably move this might be a little bit more challeng it but you might do the whole thing you might do half of it but no I'm probably going to do the next two buildings the next two and then probably
the last three so something like that so it all be binder when it's finished for that phase it would all be bindered structures in as needed all that and then once it's all completely built out you come back in and top coat everything
so you you're not dealing with top coat over here degraded by the time you get here right the seems I worry about they come apart right small joint you you know you can put you can try to glue it all you want but it's all better if it's
it's are you going to be in charge of cleaning man drive every night when the construction starts absolutely right there with the power room with the guys that are doing the job okay H will probably be doing the site work sure but you can see you you know start digging everything there going be
a lot of dirt so you're going to yeah no dirt when they come out of the it's going to be Stone PS just that's fine I'm just you know that we're just we're just feeling I'm not going to tolerate it down to the we just want to make sure so my office is a couple hundred yards
away so I was going to say DPW is right there it's as part of the inspections for the project that's one of the housekeeping items that's typically maintained so construction entrance make sure that trucks aren't dragging still
halfway down make a drive you get halfway down make a drive he he'll see it so yeah that that'll be upkept during the construction process I I do have a question Mr chair um if this gets phased um there'll be a need for storm water
infrastructure your the base number two the bigger one um everything in those buildings is connected to that so phasing will have to include at least the infrastructure needed to and that's why I was kind of pointing on where we
would do it just because obviously this one's easy yep there is a break let me so pretty much from the fourth building gr catch Bas in here so the first three buildings all
the catch bases lined up here anything behind it goes to the underground goes to the underground so yes the infrastructure for these three buildings would have to be put in as well as the Basin that's why I was kind of pointing at the phas like the right way to do it
knowing that this would have to be put in I think before you start putting buildings in you're going to want to build that base and get that pipe out of it yes all of that yes and then go on and then you can just stop piping up your sections if you haven't already if you don't have a construction sequence
with your erosion control stuff I can add that I can include that yep yeah so that phase two would be however much here you need to build plus we got to do three we'll do three yeah yeah
so we can include that in the even if it's a little separate figure yep nice color one so everyone knows what's going on perfect anything else I guess we're going to have a public hearing for this right so thank
you for the presentation no problem thank you for your comments thank you thank you streamline the process I like it yeah would we like to have the public hearing at the next meeting on April
8th I think it be ready yeah yeah satisfied yeah I comments provided aren't anything major plan changes aren't anything major
so I see that being reasonable okay one one quick question question you AG that the security fence that you're going to put up are you going to try to encase that as part of it or the sections of allowing I'm just wondering if you get
the apartments across the street and the amount of people that are there going to have a security fence all the way around at the end are you going to do that as part of the phasing absolutely y we'll just keep going all the way down we can put a temp section where we're going to
stop to keep them out of well keep them out of the area that's done just security that's all you know we're going to watch and see how this all goes because I'm you know first thing I did when I went over there and walk that P land I was greeted by a local policeman that's stationed there I said holy God
what's going on so kind of gave me a heads up that this could be an interesting situation um they're they're paid by they're paid by English Village oh is that right it's a it's yeah one one one police officer and it's paid by that so
they keep him busy though just that's his just just his presence there makes a difference probably and they and they pay the city for his oh good deal I like that there was we got Security on site there was a lot of
activity down there prior to the police oh lot so we'll make a motion to continue this to the public hearing need be I'll make a motion on the floor that we continue the uh meeting to the next to
our next meeting for public hearing okay second second any further discussion none all in favor I I awesome thank you thank you gentlemen thank you thank you welcome thank you
here next thing on the agenda got to put my cheers on a zoning Amendment historical preservation project we do need a another public hearing this one will be a joint public
hearing with city council okay um oh like with the city council yeah this was this was put forward by I believe uh Judy Mack and councelor tyros yeah and this at this stage all we're doing is proposing to go back to the city council
for a public hearing yeah to host the public hearing yeah they sent it over to us we have to schedule the public hearing then um and then we'll host it with them and then we'll make a motion to I
think they they want input on it um as well as being the ones to host the public hearing so then uh from there we'll uh continue it to um I believe back to the zoning
board for approval for approval yeah for in case it's a special permit or or so it's it's not for deliberation tonight it is just for us to schedule the best time that works for for all of
us so it it would be separate from the regular uh meetings that we have um so I'd recommend it either the the week before on the uh 1st of April um or oh
sorry as a suggestion nothing more uh should we touch base with the city council as to um the scheduling of it have the public care no they'll do it they'll schedule he'll schedule it I thought we no we're
we're scheduling the meeting um so I thought you said it was a joint meeting yeah but it was put forward from city council to us to then schedule and then they they will attend and we be the general council chambers
and we'll be the ones in front of them uh leading the the public hearing and they're there mainly to listen in to the public deliberation while while we host um so it it's it's for us to uh
just schedule um and they'll be notified and we'll have it be at a amicable time where they can they can attend as well you know so is that usually uh before the council meeting or city council meeting isn't that they
want or depending on how big it's going to be it might be separate but they uh when they have a when they have a meeting prior to their regular
schedule meeting it's usually uh 6: or 6:30 or if they don't anticipate a long deal they'll put it at 7 and at 7 well sometimes they've extended their
meetings they've suspended the the public hearing open the city council meeting and then open the public meeting that's that's what that's what I just kind of said that U well they may joint meeting would be uh before the right before the city
council meeting am I correct before before the city council correct that's what I yeah before the city council meeting that's correct so maybe an hour or a half an hour depending on what they want so I guess the other thing we have to find out is when's the next city council
meeting is it the first Monday of the month I I'm not sure I think that is I think it's usually the first and they only watch them on Channel 8 so can I make a suggestion or a motion
that we find out when the next city council meeting is and propose that we have an open meeting for the proposal for uh 6: p.m. prior to the meeting and check of the city council of
council president and see if we're okay I'll offer to the council president and ask if an hour prior to the ne well entally not the next city council but one where let me let me actually find out when the count the city council's
meeting I'm not too sure if it's the first Monday of the month usually so that'd be April 1 no April 7th and then the following would be the 21st so I'd recommend the 21st just so that we have enough time for um I guess we have enough time for
advertising from now do we right you got to do that 14 days after tonight am I correct yeah so then 65 days of the 6 days of receiving it recommend recommend the 21st yeah so recommend the 21st I'll
consult with president tyros and if um it's amicable to the city council as well then we'll schedule it for an hour prior to the City Council on the 21st of April chairman does that work for you the 21st works for me sure sure let's do it that way touch space with the council
president whatever time he needs my thinking is that this is the church on Central Street right y the all s we hot school correct yep they want they want this this for the old building which used to
be the convent for the nuns mhm cuz that is an old old building yeah so they want that so they can do something with that they're they want to expand the
parking and possibly do some sort of expansive renovations to the building I think plus the building needs a lot of help it's old and
neglected that be explained during the public meeting what their intentions so so if we have the the schedule for the public meeting I'll like I said confirm councelor Tyro pres council president tyros and and uh we
can have the public hearing then 21 should be fine yeah that is Patriot Day though is that is plan on a 21st is it what is it Patriot Day no no I don't believe it is the 19th you
said April 21st right yeah the the 19th is not Patriots Day this year oh it's not day after Easter you're right I think it's the 21st do I have it in my calendar now we're all looking at our phones I have Patriots Day in my
calendar so Google thinks it's Patriots Day I don't know if Gardner closes on that we do yeah then it would be held on Tuesday okay so it would be Tuesday the 22nd yeah it's Monday April 1 good catch we host
it EAS Monday and then patriots day is April 21st that Monday nice catch so they would then host it a city council meeting on the following uh following day so on Tuesday the 22nd so second works for me we'll put it for 6:
p.m. on the Tuesday April 22nd for the public hearing okay plan on it subject to change but plan on it okay would you like to put that in uh uh I think I make a motion that we
approach the city C if we can have a joint public meeting for April 22nd at 6: p.m. if that works for them I'm sure you'll get back to us Jason yeah second Bob seconds any further discussion no all in favor I
I timing for the uh timing for the next meeting well the public heing would be at 6:30 so we keep everything at 6:30 then we' move our meeting after that okay so it' be easier to because the next meeting would so we're having a public we're having a
public hearing on our next planning board meeting is that correct so that should be at 6:30 then we'll do our regular meeting following that usually we say 7 o'clock or whatever whatever how you sure that's fine whatever how you want to write it so our next meeting is April 8th
forward 6:00 p.m. yeah we move forward do we 6:30 all the time that way says no so Tuesday April 8th we'll have 6:30 public meeting and 7:00 p.m. regular meeting yeah then regular meetings after that it'll be always at 6:30 it's
exactly what screwed me up uh yeah two months ago last month easy to remember 6:30 and now 6:30 okay okay that's it motion to adour go ahead Mr Cormier motion to I second
a Jour we Jour thank you