planning board for the December 11th 2025 meeting an announcement to make uh any person may make a video or audio recording of the no concession of a
meeting and may trans or may transmit the meeting through any medium subject to reasonable requirements of the chair as the number uh placement and and
operation of equipment used uh so as not to interfere with the conduct of the meeting any person intending to make such a recording shall notify the chair forth withth all
documents referenced and used during this meeting must be submitted in duplicate to the director of community planning and planning person pursuant to the open meeting at public records law all documents shall be become part of
the official record of the meeting is there anyone here other than the city of Garda making a recording of this meeting I see you hear no indication so that's
fine we'll start off with a with a presentations Trevor y are you going to use the the uh video or just yeah I mean I can put it up uh I think probably we're going to start by going through the comments or I can sure
give uh you know a brief overview of where we were at last time we spoke uh a remote here Sor presenter is Trevis Trevor Fletcher of Graz is that right Graz gr engineer
yep make sure that pops up so I think uh last time we uh we met I kind of gave a brief uh overview of the whole plan uh it's a it's a subdivision that we're proposing right on the Town Line Between Templeton and
Gardner and uh I think the uh review engineer was here last time we went over some of her concerns and uh kind of addressed a couple and since that time I've taken the plans I've revised them uh to her satisfaction um I think we heard back from her around 3:30 there
was four outstanding items and I just quickly uh resolved those um thought she was going to be here tonight to to address those but I I do not see her um in attendance but um I know uh I also revised plans according to the city
Engineers uh concerns and we went through all those and uh we satisfied all those uh requirements um so I I guess uh if anybody needs a refresh I can go through the project again uh please okay so we
have a uh a 16 lot I think it's 16 off top my head 16 lot uh subdivision uh on which we're planning on constructing duplexes uh right here is the the entrance the Town Line actually kind of comes diagonal which is kind of a unique
feature because the RightWay line kind of continues here so in this area this is the RightWay line and the Town Line so the entrance is actually in Templeton um but the only portion that we're actually subdividing is within uh Gardener and uh we are tying into sewer
right up here and the water m is going to go cross country right up here and tie in at the location uh above because that is where the water in Gardener across the street is and so we wanted to be on Garder to city water and uh so that's what we had to do for that in the
front we have a drainage basin the front half of the site all drains through Street drainage and uh eventually flows into here one of the things we added uh was another cat Basin right at the base they didn't want uh water flow going up onto Patriots road so we captured all
that and brought it back into the lot um so it's staying out of the right away so um that'll satisfy Mass Do's concerns um as as far as we're we're concerned uh we will be going through Mass doot permitting uh after we uh kind of settle
things here and if any changes warrant us coming back we will be back uh just to show those changes uh that are happening in the right way up front here we have a common mailbox we're proposing two spaces right here um and uh that's
just for people to pull over pick up their mail and on to their house think that's all of notes there and we'll continue on back that's just uh more of the development uh the high point of the
road is right in the center here uh in this general city right here so this is where the flow switches from going forward to that first infiltration Basin to flowing back here to the infiltration Basin back and this is the uh end of the
development we have a CAC um and all the drainage right here collects comes down into a drain man hole here and then disperses into the uh infiltration Basin there um so yeah I think uh the only waivers that we are uh requesting for
the um the subdivision everything else it's a bght sub subdivision and we're meeting all the requirements of the subdivision rules and rs and everything like that uh minus two items uh which we discussed with a city engineer uh might just be a little outdated regulations the first one is to
use a plastic uh polyethylene pipe instead of reinforced concrete uh seems to be kind of an older regulation uh the city engineer seems to indicate that the city uses uh the HTTP pipes all the time so that shouldn't be an issue when the city takes over the road um and the
second waiver is uh the drain manholes for some reason the um the subdivision rules and rs require a 3-ft sump in the drain manholes it's very common to have a 4-ft sump and it a lot of cases is required in catch basins where the water actually flows into the structures but
those U Middle structures that connect catch Basin to catch Basin they don't typically require sumps in those so we're requesting that waiver and uh city engineer and DPW seem to be fine with that as well anything else um not really uh we had a traffic study done um we had it
done for the the project that we were proposing before and they had revised it uh for the uh the new development for the 16 duplex slots and uh I believe uh he is here if anybody has questions pertaining to the the traffic study and
um so we can address those tonight um in more detail just a question of something that you tricked in my mind about the water main mhm um that's coming off of Route 2 a or is that coming off the
other housing project so it's uh it's coming off of Route 2 a so there's actually U there's two different scenarios um so one right where it comes right through here it can go across the street and tie into the dead end of the
the water M along 2A right there if the state doesn't want us to cross the pavement because the state owns that whole R that's part of the par process there is uh a way we could go cross country within the RightWay and uh hook up to where Deer Hill um comes off and
that way we won't be cutting through two way we'd be cutting into part of deer Hill okay so we're just got to deal with the state and see which direction they want us to go and uh but the sewage goes right out to Route 2 a correct yet there's a sewer sewer M that comes right down here and then right at the base of
the Hill it goes across and then out back towards the sewer treatment plant out uh down Plant Road I think I think um the city sewage plant takes care of pot of Templeton correct that that's why yep
wow what a memory um okay you any further any questions from your guys no here yeah I got a question um and forgive me if this was addressed in a prior hearing but um the drainage outfall from that infiltration Basin next to 2A yep that
the rip wrap uh does that go into that drainage CT when it flows over there or would that just flow into the street no that's going to be going into the cul right there yeah it's a it's kind of a low low spot is a guard rail and then kind of a drop off on 2A right there where that cul is so all that uh flow is
going north and the drainage analysis point was the Culvert so we made sure that the free and the post uh it is less water going through that pipe in every single storm okay and then I just had a question about the peer review letter I didn't see the whole storm water report but I saw that uh it said standard two
and three were just met partially is that was that just looking for additional information on those or is not I'll get the exact two and three or three and four I think actually for required charge volume and water
quality yes so I believe stand standard three was the uh yeah said partially met um we want a clarification of what uh method we did for infiltration testing and uh I had the the G uh it's basically a big long
rod and you pour water and it's kind of a glorified percolation test for for a SE it's just a little bit more mathematically precise I guess and so I did those tests we did three in each Basin and then you take the the lowest of all those um so that's what they want
a clarification on for that they uh they required rechargeable Vol is met then by the Yeah so the required recharge volume we use the epa's B&P performance curves which uh they kind of newly came out with ever since they started requiring
90% TSS removal and 60% total phosphorus removal and uh they found in their studies depending on what the recharge rate is um you need in our case it was 27 roughly uh inches uh of runoff over
the impervious area the area that needs to be treated and we're providing. 28 and I kind of went she still kind of wanted me to uh re-evaluate on that so I did so we're providing 0 28 in our calculations um the infiltration rate
the actual infiltration rate is um a lot better than the chart gives so that would even mean there's uh more treatment uh for the for the basins themselves and uh on top of that uh because Gardener requires you to
also reduce the peak all the volume in the each infiltrate or each uh analysis Point uh we had to kind of oversize the basins they're very very large basins and so uh in the infiltration Basin one we have over four times the required
recharge volume in that calculation and the one in the back we have just under six times so they're very large Basin there could be a lot treaten so it should function very very very well so do you want to go over your report now is that what you want to do I don't know if uh you want to go over City
comments or um if I may I can just offer to the board I have reviewed the revised plans as well as um Mr Fletcher's written responses to my comments I'm satisfied with the revision so um everything that was in there has been adequately addressed um as far as I'm
concerned um if the board wants to go through them individually that's up to you um but I'm satisfied at this point no I'm satisfied is I'll save you that time if you say it's good it's good I know it is and as for the the peer review um I mean she had I can go over
the four items that she had after um uh today so the first one let's see most of them were addressed uh the first one she had was she recommended that we add the uh under the construction sequencing uh
add an item for site clearing I basically just had setting ER roia controls and then installing the um installing the sediment basins uh directly after that she wanted an item right in the middle of that saying uh that that's when the site clearing is going to occur so I added that in and that's in the the plants that I submitted today at
4:30 um one of the ones was um the the question of uh in the 100-year storm the emergency Spillway is designed to to be utilized and she was uh questioning whether or not that was was uh acceptable in the massachusett storm
water standards um so I've gotten this comment in the past and I've looked into it and if you look at the the Massachusetts storm water handbook right in their diagram for an infiltration Basin it shows the where the water level is in the two twoe 10 year and in the 100 year just as a general concept the
100 year is above the emergency Spillway so as far as we're concerned I believe Massachusetts uh is is okay with that uh that being used 100-year storm is kind of an emergency if if you think about it it's a very rare uh very rare
storm um she uh in regards to the two waivers we're asking for they're just going to defer to the board's judgment on those two waivers that was her comment on those um the uh specific detail about mortar
being used in manholes um I think she was looking for the precise composition of the M mortar I kind of indicated that mortar was to be used but I didn't indicate the composition so I added the composition for the the subdivision rules and rs so that's on there
[Music] now one more uh she indicated uh the rip wrap sizing that we have on all the basins uh we typically designed it the 50y year um I explained that in that and she said uh
she she recommends as a condition to uh have the applicants provide provide those calculations prior to the start of construction to to verify the erosion U protection is uh adequate uh but yeah she did recommend a condition on
that then we had the uh the treatment uh amounts and the TSS removal rates that I just went over that was a question so I just kind of went through that [Applause]
and um uh they she recommended that uh it just be a condition um that a swift is provided prior to constru construction which is typical because you got to file a nip permit and that's that's Swip is part of that and uh prior to
construction so that will be provided to the DPW on everybody uh so that she recommended that be [Music] condition um there was one item uh requires a description of construction and waste materials chemical fuels
expect to be stored and used on site um that is all typically right in the Swip uh report that we're going to be uh doing before construction um so uh she they she wanted to uh the board to determine whether or not that
information should be provided prior to uh prior to uh approval or if it's acceptable to be uh included in the Swip um I think it's generally I mean it's residential construction it's nothing crazy it's not a commercial operation so uh we don't expect any crazy hazardous
waste but that's all going to be in Swift anything not using anything exotic exactly yeah uh just general construction stuff and that's all typically in the in the swiat and then the last item uh that they had uh was I
they wanted a 50ft construction entrance I had a 40ft before so I fixed it on the plan but in the erosion control notes it still said 40 so I switched that to you explain that more clearer what that me the uh construction entrance yeah so let me get the Roo control
she right here right in I don't know how to zoom in slideshow mode but right here you can see this area right here okay so they uh to protect the the roadway from getting littered with dirt and everything with construction material coming in and out
they typically require the first 50 ft just to be kind of a stone um entrance in and out and that way you know if it gets really really clogged they can you know fluff the stone clean it out and uh or replace a stone if it's necessary it's just all about you know keeping the
the mud and everything like that off of 2way I learned something tonight I've seen them before but never know why do they do that now I know thank you yeah and then yeah the uh last one was the uh just a fire access uh she was wondering
if the turnaround at the end was adequate for a ladder truck the turn around at the end meets the subdivision rules and uh regulations for a ladder truck I did a little diagram um essentially typical ladder trucks have a turning radius of 21.5 and 35.5 we're
providing 30.4 and 44.4 so it's like nine extra feet of radius that so it should be uh adequate and you'd hope that the division rules and rs uh allows for ladder trucks to make it around KAC so did you put that through the fire department just to check with yeah so I
uh I brought it up to the fire I sent him the plans and we went over hydrant plac and everything like that that was another concern that they had uh and he didn't indicate any issues with the turnaround good y Bob you reviewed those Slaughter I I
have it's okay yep yes okay I guess we can get up to the traffic review now yeah yeah anybody had any questions or if you want to give a little presentation on it please state your name and who you represent my name is Steve Saria I'm
senior project manager with the firm of fuss and O'Neal of Springfield report that we have yes um we uh prepared on on behalf of the uh proponents the project proponents um in accordance with
standard practice a site traffic impact assessment which is which was the report that was prepared in uh I believe December um that report was uh reviewed by the peer-review time Bond there was a
series of uh comments on the report issued primarily dealing with the presentation of the data not with the substance of the report or the accuracy or completeness of our analysis and um did
not uh question any of our conclusions which were that the site access will operate safely and efficiently um this project uh because the access is onto the State Highway uh the access will be
subject to permit review by mass do and so all this same information will be presented to them and reviewed and they will make their own determinations about whether uh they can allow this the site access to
occur okay any questions you guys so Mass do would notify us that they're satisfied with I'm I'm not sure if they will notify the city or not um but U once the permit is issued then uh then we can
certainly provide the city with a copy of of of per please do very good thank you I have a question to you feter Mr pleter had a previous meeting that I
attended I can't remember which one one of there was either a member of the Templeton planning board or a selectman from Templeton that was you y planning board planning board okay could you restate
what your question was you guys have minutes or anything like that did well I I just made I was only going on my memory okay yeah disrespectful the chairman of the planing board and I had a couple of
concerns in regard to mostly the actess part to this day I T's never seen anybody um number one you can't what's that saying you can't get there from here you can't get from two way to this project that g sounds like wants to
approve through Temp and I express great concerns for the traffic coming out of that um because we all know it's one thing to stare at a picture or on a piece of paper and I know uh Mr Fletcher you know as well so nothing as personal
but it seems to me the design feature of this whole project the road should have been shifted as far east as possible and not as far west as possible given somebody who's coming around that corner time to break before they hit somebody I know if I remember correctly they said
the numbers were marginal um as far as just making the criteria for the sight line come around the corner so that in itself concerns me you're running the high percentage of the Danger Zone on the Cals that's what it was that's how it came across at the at that meeting I
think it was December um basically if God wants to take the bullevard of horns and approve the whole project and keep the whole project in GA them because I don't see a flying through my board in tlon and if
we don't have a visitor pretty soon we just exercise the appeals period which gets lengthy for anybody so if you don't want to play ball force your hand not personal this is I'm looking for the safety of the of every citizen doesn't have to be just something in Templeton
but G of Templeton you know we're all one big big family one big family one big Community especially when it's we have an accident or a problem and you you basically putting a bad situation coming out on that little stretch in
Templeton I don't like it not when this the possibility to actually save somebody's life by giving an extra 100 ft of breaking power come around that corner and I'll I'll take that to my grave I'm not going to set anybody up if
I have the chance now to save somebody tomorrow and yeah just to speak on that after we had that discussion at the last meeting we did uh seek the opinion of uh Christine tree uh legal and uh she went through all the subdivision uh you know rules of the state of Massachusetts and
uh it's not going to constitute a subdivision in in the town of Templeton just because the the applicant doesn't own any land that is being sub that is part of the subdivision so it it really does not constitute a subdivision in the town of templon so the only uh we're
we're going to do the legal thing then fine do what you're going to do we'll appeal it we'll drag it out for five years in court it makes no sense to to me but if that's how the applicant wants to pursue that's fine I'm not taking it sitting down simple as that so we we'll try the appeals if the
appeals court says we have nothing we can't do this and we won't I know nobody's going to get their answer for a few years that I do know okay thank you sir yeah like I said it's not personal I know several people
in this room and I'm looking up that's why I'm the chairman of the planning board not everybody likes the answers sometimes but I'll be damned if there isn't anybody that can accuse me of not looking out for the general public or my case you know the citizens of Templeton for the most part this happens to be
just on the line it's kind of a you know screwy situation but I don't have to be at this meeting tonight but hopefully I don't have to stop on an accident there somay and pick up a dead child yeah okay thank you very
much can't emphasize any more than that look at your laptop oh I don't want an update that's what I did say in December though just so you know I do remember well I do recall it I guess okay do you were the one yeah I
was the one thank I just wanted clear and open y oh it's up to the owner what they want to do correct thank you what else can we talk about on the
project that's up here for a reason all just restarted the slideshow could you go over that again because I printed it out on my on my printer and it's over this the cover sheet okay he just started restarted the
computer that's on yeah yeah this is just the cover sheet it just provides General general information about the project yeah it's too small for me to read yeah anyone else have any questions you have anything you want to address
no at this point I don't know where you're going I said at this point I don't know where you're going I don't either we covered everything we've done the the U questions that were raised by TI and bond and those were
addressed the uh traffic study was addressed with corrections from tyan Bon or is this a continuation of the public meeting yeah you might want to okay yeah public want is there anyone in the
public that wants to say anything for or against I just have a question for the traffic study name Gary Roberts uh Steven I'm a but when was the study done you redid it
right the data uh that is the basis for the analysis in the current version of the report was collected in August of last this of 24 did they take under uh advisement
that there was a big construction project going on right up the street and there was backed up traffic that people were avoiding that area for several months so to get an accurate traffic study there is impossible because of the
backed up traffic people were avoiding it they weren't going down that area now that it's opened back up again you're getting regular traffic again so I think any study they got at that point was right in the midst of the heavy construction where they stopping traffic
rerouting traffic uh I don't think the accuracy at that time would ever present what really is going on right now well personally I I know you obviously you're you're a temple in res
res you live close by I go to East Templeton frequently at all times of the day I do recall the turmoil that was created when the project started but in December I I personally
don't think it was that busy they did in August oh that was right AUST was busy yeah don't know and they still have to put in the side they were still in the mid they they stopped the winter they still putting in sidewalks and
everything else and haven't paved it all so yeah so something we guys have to think about okay anybody else yes hi I'm Mary Schaffer East Templeton uh I'm in a butter okay quite a number of houses are
along my property line so I am still concerned about some of the water um issues that we have that's been talked about here number of times uh there was a I don't know if you can bring it up on your slide or not I had sheet six of uh
18 in your in the plans and they had um [Music] depole um drillings I assume for the water yes so the uh guess the de's up
here TP and tp4 yep so on tp4 said it had like LOM LOM and Sandy LOM and and it had eswt for 42 in and below that it a standing water 64 in can you explain
that yeah so the es hwt is the estimated seasonal high water table based off of U like modeling so you dig a hole and you can kind of see U as the water fluctuates up and down and gets introduced to oxygen where the rust forms so that eswt is 42 in down from
the the surface so that's where we indicate standing water is when we design the infiltration Basin and then uh the 64 in to standing water is where we found evidence of actual water water water table being so that would be uh whether it's weeping uh from the side of
the hole or you know some in some cases in really really loose soils it fills right up to that level of the of the hole but in this case I believe it was just weeping from the side and I have a question still about um the safety of the road that enters
into the project um I don't know if if you approve this project if there's going to be um signage that's approved by the state to put in ahead of the construction for warning
people and I have concern about parking for the construction which can't park on 2A and the land that's in front of my property close to the 2A if you park
trucks in front of my property there then it's going to be a safety hazard already with either people being distracted by it or sight lines being reduced to get to
that in and out of that construction road that site is still really scary to us that live in East Templeton that g area and parking where is the parking going
to go yeah I vehicles and workers yeah when I uh when I was doing my infiltration testing and everything like that I I pulled right on the side of uh side of the road there and there's plenty enough for it for my car there U so I'm guessing you know in the initial stage stages that's kind of where
they're going to set up um if they do have to impede traffic then um through the mass do permit they're going to recommend um like construction time uh flaggers and everything like that that's going to have to be provided if construction vehicles have to use the you know side of the road or shoulder um
so that's all part of the the master UT permit process that fuss and O'Neal will be going through after approval so um it's kind of part of that and then once uh the area is you know cleared then then they can start parking within the site how about um the debris from the
site say in phase one for instance where's all that going to go so the debris uh meaning you're going to cut all those trees how much is coming out how much is staying how long is it staying yeah that's I mean they're going to cut it and probably store it somewhere on site uh probably export the
logs that they cut on site um we have stipulations that you know no stumps are are to be removed until that specific area is is ready to be worked um so before anything um uh before any clearing or anything like that they're going to put erosion controls on the
entire downhill side of the entire site so any you know silt or anything like that that gets mucked up by the logging crew you know any runoff that you know captures any of that silt will be filtered through that erion control and um yeah they they'll probably just uh
you know designate a landing area for all the uh all the logs and then probably just take them off one truck at a time I there any City Rules for time of operation time that you can start working in the day and ending time and weekends is there any Gardener
regulations on that yes I believe they're are do you know what they are anybody you can't work on Sunday I think it's Monday through Saturday Saturday we'd have to look it up for sure but there are hours that they
stipulated usually around 7 till U 4 or 5:00 or something like that but most construction projects stop around 3 in the afternoon and a question about um did you decide if you're putting a gate at
the end of The Cue saac that's going to um perhaps keep vehicles for going Offroad into that undeveloped area and for safety uh yeah that was actually uh one other item I don't think tyan Bond responded to that but I'm glad you brought that up that was uh one thing
that we said um you know we are considering putting one of those you know just like pipe gates or anything like that if the board feels it necessary then they can certainly condition that to prevent access through that I just didn't know uh you know if there was any reason for emergency vehicles or anything I don't think they
need to go back there but I just didn't know how you guys felt about that but I I did see that in the in the report y yeah we're more than more than happy to abide by that if you guys want to condition that okay thank you thank you anyone else yeah Mike Baba 14 Stevens way I'm
on a butter um I have a few questions how many stages are we planning on doing this project in uh stages as in like how many houses at once do all 16 houses at once or you going to do full you
couple and then a couple how long do we plan on it taking I mean I think I mean I don't know if the applicant it kind of depends on what the Market's like and you know what the what the funding looks like um um but essentially once the project is approved it could go go all in one phase
you know clearly there's going to be phases in terms of uh erosion control and everything like that obviously all the basins and stuff have to be put in place uh prior to you know all that and um but yeah it's it's really just kind of up to the funding because once the subdivision is approved I mean uh the
Apple could you know realistic she she has no plans on but she could sell individual lots and have individual Lots be be constructed once all the you know features are in the roadway and all the drainage so it's kind of uh it's not a a phase project in that in that sense but
and it's going to be underground electrical correct as well is the lighting line there yep uh the lighting PL oh there more than that yeah I see so uh these are the lights so uh this has changed since the last time we were in um the city of gardener was
going to take it over they wanted less lighting um so we have one light up top right here for the intersection there's one light right here to light up the common Drive area and then the lights are spaced at 300 ft intervals and then there's one at the end of the
col what's the height of them uh they're going to be um I believe they're mounted on 20 foot pole okay yeah and then they're they're downcast lights as you can see right here and uh so it's it's to prevent dark
SK are they going to be dark sky compliant or I believe so yeah um as far as I'm not the lighting engineer but this is the plan that they uh presented and uh the engineering and and no one uh raised any questions about it and uh
part of the subdivision standard they have to be compliant with a city of gardeners lighting so I believe that's typically what they use okay and there's actually one more sheet so this sheet kind of shows the the spread of light it's kind of hard to
see like this light right here the extense of the Contours for it kind of like right in here what are they talking for four candles like one that's what all those little numbers are right yeah they got a little blurry on this SC
um I yeah it's not really my wheelhouse but yeah so get again over here the intersection is going to be lit up like right in this area here and right over here they did take into consideration the house across the street um and try to limit the lighting over there and then yeah right here this is
kind of the extent of the sprad for these right here thank you yep anyone else one more quick question sure um Roberts but again uh
are school buses going to be once this Project's going is school bus going to be going up that way school buses yeah if if there's any children in the neighborhood yeah I would uh expect them to accommodate so they'll be coming up from Garder turning
into that spot which is the most dangerous you can't see so I don't know any parent that would want their kid on that bus four times a day in and out of that area 20 times a week they're going to take a chance that they when they
turn left into that entrance they're turning blind and that's an awful lot of people to worry about turning in a slow turning bus with a truck coming around the corner that has no idea that that things
turning right across the road should be observing the speed limit doesn't matter you can't see once a bus turns he's not going fast he's turning you got trucks coming around the corner they're coming up over the hill and around the corner it's blind there's no
way you can see the bus has to turn hoping there's nobody coming that's a lot of consideration for the town to take on that if there's a a fatality there or a bus being
hit that's a pretty good uh think to take into consideration not only the cars that come home every night are coming up that route and have to take a left into that corner so you got buses and cars multiple cars turning left into
that spot every day turning blind there's a speed of blinking light go e westbound it's 40 m hour there yeah yeah all the gra I don't recall seeing one going eastbound no there
isn't maybe that's something to thin mot to put in to slow up we can work on that I know it doesn't give you the answer you're looking for no well I just something consider
too Mr chairman I do have a response to the question about the uh the traffic counts during during the construction please on to a um we counted uh almost 5,000 Vehicles a day uh uh passing the
area of the of the site access um when we did our counts in August of 24 um I have a I have count data from Mass do uh that the average daily traffic in
2023 was 4,429 Vehicles a day so I think our our Council represent are pretty pretty typical condition I would say so anybody anything [Music]
no close yeah I have a motion do do I have a motion to close this public meeting me to give a quick update on the hazard mitigation plan I know Trevor introduced that at the last meeting okay um so
close the public meeting I'm sorry you huh you at this time close the public meeting continue I still can close the me okay continue I should uh abstain from voting on this one since I haven't
been present for previous hearings okay great a motion to uh make a motion we continue the public meeting continue this time you want to close it you want to continue it want have more
answers for Bo now would you ask um I'm just wondering what other information uh we're W on yeah than that I guess the state that's the only thing but that one would be notified anyway doesn't affect the
construction if the state doesn't give the permit then it goes down to shoot anyway make a motion we close the public hearing second okay any further discussion all those in favor I I I
no oppose public meeting is closed thank you I we'll go back on the agenda I have a motion to approve the U minutes of the 10 December 24 make a motion we approve the uh minutes of the last
meeting I have a second yeah I have a second any discussion no discussion all in favor I I Iain on that one too okay that's approved was there anything else at just a minute
me just a minutes uh the hazard mitigation plan I mentioned um so I know it was mentioned at the last meeting of December 10th about the formation of the hazard mitigation plan formation of the committee oh um the committee still has
not yet been formed but I did reach out to WSC which is our contractors for the plan um they relay to me that you know in the interim while we're still forming uh the committee they're still reviewing the uh existing local plans for Gardener
gather data drafting list of assets to be used in the plan as well as crafting a plan for Community engagement um I'll that's all I have uh from them and hopefully we'll have um more updates on the formation of the committee and kind
of moving forward with that um the master plan as well we're still waiting on the formation of the committee but I am in contact with Barrett Planning Group um which is the main contractor for the master plan updates and we'll again hopefully at the next meeting have
further updates once the committee is formed great you got throw my name in on the hazard mitigation plan okay I'll send it over I not that I'm bragging but I did over 25 years from FEA I didn't work in
that area but I somehow always got involved in that yeah so I'll send your your name over to the mayor please do absolutely I uh I had had a coffee with a friend of mine this morning and he
he'd be willing to maybe volunteer for another as another member of the planning board cuz we usually have five right yes that's right I so we need one more so you're you're a blessing
Eric so uh I'll submit his name to you and whatever we have to do with that or whatever he has to do you can let me move forward for the next meeting yeah absolutely okay thank you so hopefully we'll have a full load soon all business
okay that's we just had the ended the public meeting with the compass Road Project do we want to approve with some limitations are you comfortable enough to figure out what what's what's going
on I I understand the project I think just due to the Mullen rule I shouldn't vote on the formal decision since I haven't been here for all the hearings okay um but I did I mean I reviewed the plans for the first time today so I can't offer a ton of insight but um that's fair I don't have
any dire concerns to express at this time the engineering department is happy yeah uh I'm satisfied with the plans as they are um I know there's concerns from the neighbors um with regards to traffic and the location of
the the roadway um I offer that mass do will do their own review um for safety they'll review the traffic report um should they move forward with the project I do know mot's permits um are
very restrictive in terms of parking some some of the things that were brought up tonight um so those permits are usually very very detailed um with what's allowed um a lot of things that were touched upon tonight so um I I
think as well as your review and your approval M doot um for them will be not a hurdle but it's certainly um Mass doot will require a lot of information and and probably work back and forth um to finally issue a permit so I I think you
have um another entity looking at it that will offer their own opinions on traffic and in safety um so that's a good thing that was another one of my questions but I think you addressed it
that mass do will control the things like traffic and parking yes and and all of that so that answers my question yeah typically there's no parking on state highways so they may prohibit that in their permit they do get upset about that yes
they do do you think that they would you know I'm assuming you're aware that there's a in the westbound Lane in that area there's a a speed traffic warning on the west going westbound there was the one needed for
the eastbound you think that they would that's I mean Mass do would have to find a warrant to be able to do that they they can't they won't just put up new signage without um adequate need so they may evaluate that um it can
certainly be asked of them but unless there's an absolute warrant they won't put new signage out what do you mean by warrant um that certain criteria are met to to Warrant the need for okay
yeah so they'll probably take care of that okay and we could bring it to their attention so you could but again unless they can demonstrate to themselves that there's a need um so whatever we say doesn't matter yes I work for a government like
that okay I think I've addressed everything and I have a motion to approve the compass Road Project as presented I make a motion we approved the project as
presented I concur I like the idea of Mass DOT coming in as far as site distancing and safety and whatever else as far as the the concerns of the uh abutters and safety of the citizens and putting it putting it there and uh with
that I second the motion I have a first and a second is there any further discussion of that motion I see or here none call for the vote all in favor I I
I and there's one exstension no no no Nays project is approved thank you very much Mr Fletcher thank you thank you we have nothing
discuss motion second any discussion on the motion to that motion approved I all all thank you Jason maybe uh address the meeting