e e e e e e okay folks welcome to the um the meeting of the planning board for Wednesday February 26th um and I'll just go right
into it uh if I ask I can ask you to either silence your cell phones or uh turn them off that would be greatly appreciated um pursuant to the open public meetings floor this is the state for the record that adequate notice of this meeting has been by publication in the Union County
Hawk on January 2 uh 2nd 2025 um this meeting has been provided to the public by publication of the Union County Hawk on January 22nd 2025 posting on the B website and by posting filing of said notice in the office of
cler this is a regular scheduled meeting of the board um with that I just want to make that General announcement that we were we were originally supposed to have the fourth round affordable housing um introduction um by m um Michael Mada um
that's going to be postponed until the uh March 12th meeting so um for anyone who's here specifically for that I just want to let you know up front that that's not going to happen tonight um with that uh let's have a pag salute and
a moment of silence please thank you roll call please mayor blumenstock Miss light here councilman Carney here chair greet here
miss vagio Mr nearad Barkin uh miss biano here miss hay and M buers here okay if everyone has have an opportunity to read the minutes of the January 8th meeting um do I hear a
motion to accept minutes I'll make that motion I'll second it all those in favor I oppos hearing none motion carries okay um we have some discussion items tonight um so we're not going to have any legal
representation here um but we will have an in-depth discussion on the uh proposed land use changes that uh Kathy um vasio has done an extraordinary amount of work um Bill and Bill meat and
Steve ban um and then we will'll have the development assistant package presented by Gabe from harbard Consultants so with that um I'm going to turn with Kathy because she's got uh she has the the
floor thank you chair um we looked at the uh use that had like in the zones different zones basically
for the general business district the CD Zone the central business district and mix mix use District business
district and um we noticed that the uses haven't changed since basically 1994 and the what we want to do is open it up our businesses you know
open um like our business districts more uh more more more more more more uh types of businesses because like we have the same
types of businesses right through our Districts The General business district and our Central business district so what this does is open it up and I think it will help the um the
downtown both on on Center Street South Avenue um and North Avenue um so that's what we did um I
I think we did a good job um M said I I think we did yeah well sorry but you know we did look at all the services um and we just felt that we
were being restrictive we're being too restrict restrictive and it will help the business um businesses downtown so if anybody has any any any uh
questions concerns how what I did is I the zoning map that would help you um I also attached to different types of services that would be allowed
and we are not like allowing C businesses um which are SP out does anybody have any questions concern there there's so many okay uh with that I'll open it up
to the board um for discussion um I know that Steve ban has uh St have to ask you to turn on your mic speak yeah you can take us through it okay um on the on the um Central
Business districts the the major change was in in a major group 72 personal services we only listed four or five
businesses that were allow and under under Services there's like 90 90 different types of services that um we are excluding certain certain
certain businesses like Services organizations um they and um so those would be excluded everything else would be included
there um what we are also adding another type of business under major group 73 that Medical Rental
um would be something that would be a possibility Wheelchairs and stuff like that some not saying somebody's going to come in we don't know but there when this was originally done it
like like I said it was in 1974 and there's a there's so many there different different business yes like
took What's called the and you know went through and going through it now we realize that they have added so many uses to that that didn't exist back then um we excluded items that I mean one of
the things I looked at seemed like kind of obvious hopefully this is what you know it's written up say but like it's it's fireworks okay fireworks are not permitted right makes sense but then you look up what they find as fireworks with
sparklers and um to get other you know little things like that it's like well no um and that which in the current code is very restrictive and I'm not usually the one who's broadcasting or highlighting or you know putting out
there to make it easier okay but this time I am because our current code is simply too restricted for past two reasons as tathy was saying you know we become kind of limited what we have in our down downtown area because we don't
permit a lot we be going elsewhere and now that we have ramela now that we have the point we have people in town who can indeed shop um and you know we have a base now go
mass that we to provide for that and I think we're very unfortunate needed to open it up we needed to update what we permit and as I said there were uses two things uses that didn't exist standard now added and
and uses that were there you know uh we didn't permit and so I think also what's important is if you if you know how are written what's being crossed out is actually being permitted I think that's something you have to Grapple
with because Kathy and I went through it wait a second what are we doing because the current code lists them as not being permitted and we want them permitted so um if if you look at I'm sorry one second let's go to ret retail
okay minut got thank you okay so um if you look at the retail usage okay it looks like um uh 5931 it's crossed out it's being excluded or you go down further
um uh we standard industrial code is written up with certain large major groups and certain large classifications and um just to pick one 7221 photographic Studios portraits so
we don't permit it today and Kathy and I looked at each other and said why not um and there are other items in here shoe repair shops well why why aren't they permitted not that they're coming back but it's like why aren't they permitted um
so it's it's strange but what's crossed out is actually being permitted um use merchandise stores I mean you know my sister my sister lives in use merchandise stores you know going to
antique stores going to uh um places Cranford must have craford I guess has two of them I know in Playfield we must have had you know eight of them um but those are in demand and so we should permit them so I think that's important to to understand that the key thing here
is that these regulations what's being proposed is actually allowing more uses in our uh commercial shopping areas that's a great way to explain it I thought thank you Bill so good over
overview um and that all these changes were sent out to the entire board uh for review um several times so uh hopefully um we had an opportunity to review them to look them over and uh we're going to
go through and see if there's any commentary that has to be changed added deleted whatever um but with that I know that Steve Baran has has something uh that he was going to ask have uh included that's the second one okay
that's that's not this one that's not this one has already done it the third it's not and so you're luy major group 59 this retail and then you've got major group
53 general merchandise St could find more I don't know if I'm trying to figure out what's the difference between the differ maybe there's a reason for the distinction the difference is that the way the SIC is written up that you have
a major code classification and then within that major code you have subcodes so like within the 59 for instance I think the one the one you picked um in some of those areas we permitted the entire category I mean everything that's in
there but then there are other categories where I'm making these numbers up that we didn't want 50 921 but we agreed with 5931 and those are subcategories within the major group um and you're absolutely right
Steve what you're saying and I wish I could print out I mean I could I could pull up on the screen if you want I I can pull up 59 as an example okay and and I can I can go through it if you want so you can see um but the SIC code was on there a thousand Pages or
something like that and it really is amazing in terms of listing everything you can think of is in there and and a Victor um uses it a lot with um his zoning I'm sorry yeah his zoning reviews and I don't know if he likes it or he doesn't like it but uh he has to come
screaming on my door to uh to change it so I assume that it works um but you're right not many other towns uh do it and I could be wrong and and I'm not trying to put somebody out there but I I I think it might have been Bob rard or
another attorney at the time who said well you know use the standard industrial classification because everything is there and you can choose what you want what you don't want um but if you want I mean I could pull one up on on screen and go through
it but it does seem like it does make sense but major group 59 is everything and then 5931 is a subcategory of that that that's how it works so does anybody else have I was just so is that a public domain website
that can be access that no I'll see see if I get it right now because it'd be interesting yes it is it is I I Googled it and the first hit was scc.gov but it's a list of there's standard um industrial code
standard industrial codes there's there's thousands of these things you're right yes but it's the codes yeah yeah and I see what uh what bill is saying where everything starting with 59 is a particular
like class okay does anybody have any other question any other commentary on regarding this because if there's not um we will submit Steve I thought you mentioned that you had some minor changes on something else okay so um with that then
uh what we'll do is we'll accept this I I'll have yeah we'll have a recommendation to accept this um as is and uh and go forward with it so at this time being as everyone has had an opportunity to take a look at it um do I
hear a motion to accept uh this document as is I I'll make that motion second okay roll call please mayor bloock abstain yeah Miss lysac I councilman Carney
abstain chair greed yes Miss vagio yes Mr nstead yes Mr Barkin yes miss biano I miss hay yes and Mr buers yes okay very good motion
carries thank you Kathy again um you know your your committee um has really done a a tremendous job on getting this together and you in particular for putting it all together thank you um it's just that um Dave um Dave um we're
amending chapter 106 I mean uh 106 um 106 um whatever the subsections were um that's that's that's the same Co that's
the same article that that we're doing also with this one except we're just doing the use part yeah you did the other part so somehow we have to I don't know if Council mayor um would you want two separate documents or you want one
document or I don't know how you're how you going to work that I have sent over them separately to our community development chair already um so he knows I haven't obviously the the use business uses I haven't sent over I can if you
want to send me a clean copy and then or Adele wants to send a clean copy and then I can get it over to our chair and he can run it to his committee okay then I'll do that tomorrow morning okay and then we can ask our attorney if he is able to put them all together rather
than it's a Word document so it should be all right sorry okay with that I'm going to turn it over to Gabe from Harvard consultant and uh we'll move on to the development system package um with Mr chairman this is actually U the same
lines with with Cathy there's these are some uh zoning amendments yeah system package and this was this kind of a little back backdrop history this was uh presented in December and there's
there's I provided four documents it's a little confusing but uh I think you should focus on the doc that are in red uh the first one is uh it shows
10620 and what this is these recommendations stem from providing more information to the construction official the zoning official in terms of impervious
coverage and we determine and the board reviewed that if impervious coverage over 400 square feet is being proposed on a residential that a plot plan is required that has to show
where this impervious coverage is uh shows the details and provides the necessary information for for the construction fisherman zoning officer to uh review and provide uh uh review information on it in the same line we
also regarding rating and drainage uh we discuss adding a requirement of 400 impervious increase of 400 square feet of impervious coverage on a residential
property and and this if a a non-residential property that they require site plan approval with this applies to residential uh there has to be grading and drainage review and we have to the applicant has to show the necessary
information to to the planning board engineer um that the grading and drainage is appropriate for the site there will be no substantial impact uh so these were recommendations and this is going to be uh proposed to be updated in the zoning
ordinance in chapter 106 uh in the same line with the the plot plan and the grading plan uh we also added fees for this for PL plan it's uh application fee is 100 for escrow fee is 500 and then for
review of grading and drainage there's an application fee of 200 and escrow fee of $1,000 so that those are uh Pro zon changes related to plot plan and Grading drainage now the other one the other
document uh stems from recommendations from the master plan reexamination um and the recommendations were the first first one was to uh remove the industrial commercial District the I which was within the
zoning ordinance but it was wasn't on the zoning map it didn't apply anywhere so it was it was really even though it was in the zoning ordance it wasn't being used so the recommendation was to delete that zoning or uh that that
zoning district from the zoning ordinance uh the second recommendation was related to two family dwelling units and them being located side by side uh rather than above each other uh so the
the recommendation is that two family dwellings can be located side by side and that would be permitted in the RB Zone and the last recommendation this steming from the master plan reexamination was for professional
offices located in the Central Business District zone to be permitted on above the first floor so they could be permitted on the second floor uh originally the way it was located that offices were not allowed to be located on the upper floors so those were the
recommendations for the master plan uh reexamination uh so there's like I mentioned there's two documents first one is for the master examination the other doc related to
the and land new requirements for over 400 okay thank you um comments from the board we spoke about this at the last meeting we recommended it at the last meeting uh there was just some minor uh
changes the first one was originally written rating and drainage where it's going to be required for ink for when there's th000 Square ft but the board recommended 400t and then also uh the recommendation was for the planning board engineer to review the
grading drainage and the CL PLS so that that was updated and there was some minor verbiage and you so don't we have to recommend again we will yeah we'll do that again us Steve would you have anything
additional okay no um anyone commentary from board I I'm were the fees determined this I reviewed other towns uh this get the comparison where these are actually say lower other
mpali we also want to you know a level where it's not a burden to restal but also that the so my concern here is uh you know if it's over 400 square
Fe cover um plan group uh plan board engineer will determine a necessary information to provide to view the grading and brange necessary ensure proper management of the water so it doesn't go want another property that's basically a 20 by
20 uh you know um what do you call sidewalk in someone's backyard patio she say who's determines what's really necessary to be submitted I mean you
don't want to get an engineer involved just because a 20 X20 patio in your backyard as long as there's reable grating you're not building up and running water off on somewhere else's property like how is that going to beer
well it's it's based on square footage you know yeah but what's required for a drainage design like if you're just like if I'm GNA put in a patio in my backyard I don't think I should have put positive drainage uh you know any kind of
drainage pits or whatnot or something that's just a patio like who's determining what's really going to be required I mean if I didn't it's termination wage bra termination
PL uh you know if it's 500 square fet I mean yeah I wouldn't think that a drainage pit or dry well is required uh but you know the same token you has to provide the necessary information I mean there's major storm water requirements
and that's that's over acre and that doesn't apply to this but the for 400 square feet I think it's a discuss discussion with the planning board engineer and come to a discussion and come to is required and actually I could I would
think just subjective you know yeah and I would I would think pH one sec um I I I think it's not a bad a bad thought to bring um someone else from the planning planning aspect um into something that's
going to be B even if it's even if it's 400 as you mentioned in your first sentence is that yeah that could that could very easily drain off especially with our tight yards I mean we're 55 by 100 so you could easily put a a patio in that would drain off to somebody's property
that's adjacent having a third a third person to look at that and either make suggestions or or say hey look you know we could do something a little bit with coverage maybe as opposed coverage across the whole board that's something
that you might want to look at yeah I mean it would be nice if there's recommendations from the the board's engineer rather than saying you got to get someone in here to design you know that's okay e
EX e right right yeah as long as it's a productive you know back and forth you know it's our neighbors and we just want to make sure that we're not putting barriers in front of them and it's
understood that you know I mean the law is clear you don't not allowed to drain your property some else property open this just um last year I was having an issue
uh and it was from one block to the next and the resident behind different this would event that would happen to him he had a bunch of run off come into his yard it flooded his we went up getting the on it I'm
Victor the street name Victor would remember what I'm talking about so if this couldent stuff like that without going to the extreme that uh Victor was talking about that some of the towns do I think it's a good splitting of the difference e
y bil that's a comment thank you Mr chairman just I you know I wanted to thank you just let everybody know I can't sit for I have a right now I bet you
are um Victor spoken about the individual types and as a planner I want to give everybody big perspective of what this is um and what this is is that our development in town is basically Al
add that is not properly taken care of our blooding worse um you had what is that man what is it adop the storm
store and um y I took on for of them and um you go out during a storm such as I have it is absolutely amazing the amount of water that coming down off of our individual properties Street and going into a storm
s system that can't handle it um I mean it really is amazing uh now where I am on Hickory the water coming in off the enam park it it literally one of one of the major storms that we had and I know that's not expected but one of the major storms that we had the water was going
over the first set of catch Bas at Hemlock and continuing on into Hazel and I don't think the water was actually stopped and being able to able to go into the system until Hazel or maybe even um a pine after that
so single family Property Owners one and two family property proba that basically got murder all these years because they haven't they haven't been reviewed or their impact on grage now a number
of are driveway Victor add to this um but 50% lot coverage and so therefore you size your pipes accordingly to accept that amount of water and if we all put
in 400 square foot or even less U smaller uh patios in the backyard yeah every one of them does impact our neighbor even if you don't see storm water flowing actually onto your neighbor's property they all Impact us because the amount of water flowing off
of our properties you know it's it's it's not agricultural land it it's Urban Land which means it's compacted the water runs off goes onto the sidewalk goes into the street gets to a catch Bas and you know what catch Basin and that storm sewer pipe at that point is
already full and we have to as municipality start to control that um or else you know we're really going to have more problems with the storm SE system that are much bigger so this is the this is a basic approach so um that's a good
thing and uh where okay yeah my linic question was about why you know me it was just enforcement and requirements that's the line how was going work
so whoever's going to take over your position then you're going to make sure that that's they going going to be their protocol then okay okay yeah yeah they come quick um anyone else from the board with commentary uh
any additions they want to bring up no okay at this point I'm going to open it up to the general public for uh the discussion anybody Bruce come on oh you have to have something here come
on uh yeah hold hold on one one sec just uh okay we still have a couple things go ahead now you bring up yours and then we'll um the Small Business Association
um has asked that we take a look at the code for signs um the council was already going to take a look at that portion uh just to clarify political signs because there's been a lot of questions over the past couple years in
there it says what it says but it's a little bit it's not completely clear in the way it's written to make it easy so we were going to ask um for attorney to sort of just clarify that language but the Small Business Association has asked us to
discuss a few more items under the sign code um and it's just a few but I did meet with their representative uh and they wanted to know if um we do allow portable signs
which are sign it's um a sign that can be single or double fix that not permanent or a fix to a building or structure um but we do not allow them to be lit um and The Business owners wanted
to know if there was a possibility of of uh pursuing that if they could have that l i did discuss with them the uh problematic of plugging in and having a wire and anything like that out for anybody to trip and the right away um
and so they clarified that they wanted LED battery illumination um so they wanted the the planning board to consider that and then the other real thing they wanted to consider was uh feather
Flags um which are those advertising typ yeah um they are not uh permitted but they would like them to be um and so I said I would bring those items in now there's a couple things that we I I
noticed in the um code that prob Overlook at different points when things were being written and Rewritten over the years such as we do allow portable signs but it does say they're prohibited in one section so there is
some cleanup that I'm going to ask our bar attorney to do as well but those are really the the two big items that they wanted to know if we could now come in and just clarification you did mention that um they would not be flashing signs
yes yes I I am not in favor of flashing signs we don't allow it right now so I assume that the rest we can have that discussion like the planning board wants to change anything with that um but uh that they did the representative did acknowledge that they wouldn't be
flashing I understood those were prohibit how would you like to proceed with this would you like us to make a recommendation or um it's up to you if you want to discuss I know the the feather flagon is definitely something that you might want to discuss so I don't know if you want to discuss it
here first and then we can bring the code let's open it up and see what kind of discussion we have after after uh at the end after we have a meeting we have some more discussion on this um we were um this was discussed not
discussed amongst the board but um individuals were put on a committee sub committing last beginning of last year was it the beginning of last year yeah small business had brought
this up to us last year as well yeah uh just they at the time didn't clearly Define what it was they were looking for okay thank you um so we basically have something you know or had something but like it would like it
didn't go um it were second step it was just you know we want to look at this look at it now this is the second step um so you know
um you know what Vic do you mind grabbing a mic just so B that don't want to hear this from you thank you har election is De with 10 years ago we did have a number of we the reason there was an Omission on the feather Flags is that I think they were
blowing over during heavy windstorms and because they have a small base that had this they were sale it like a sale it were just toppling over everywhere it became a nuisance so that's why we made that on a mission okay and that's why we
said the A-frame is easier to tie a sandbag through something because they were falling over too but they weren't as bad they weren't blowing out onto the street so that was the only issue with that they they're pretty they're pretty attractive I think they they they
attract your eye but they were blowing around well that was the the reasoning was that they um it's it's better advertising for the small businesses it draws the eye more and so obviously every little bit of advertising helps her small business so I think that was
the reasoning behind asking for it and we could try into um into something like that some some structural requirements that they don't I did that you know we would discuss whether they would have the same sort of um regulations as the
portable signs have in the code I assume they would we would want them to we can also look at if there's a specific time limit like uh you know like two months and then take them down or you know I'm just throwing this out
there is really most of the time ret right they put a feather on beer recomendation or maybe you do some sort of setback if if the property has a setback that should beis what happen
that's why blew over they blew over sideway but most of downtown District we let them put up the is there a is there a liability to the burrow in the situation we talking about the sign blows over say it
disrupts traffic it was on property we say you Jen can I can I make a a recommendation maybe um what you want is is push back a little bit on on some of the folks that would like to see these signs and ask them if they could come up with some
some strong guidelines along the lines of that we're talking about they have to be restricted so that they won't encom Encompass some other person's property um and that uh they're going to be safe from a legal standpoint it's going to be you know they could possibly obstruct
someone of view who's driving in a car or whatever so maybe there has to be a little more discussion on their part uh to what what to bring forward as opposed to just feathered flags and um you know the uh the light and sign maybe maybe some specifics that that they might like
to write into have a code set up for and perhaps some sort of a permitting or B A yeah somebody looks at it right and makes a determination and you can just per on private cor a new store
coming they have I know one of the other sign types that was recom that was mentioned in the the one meeting was the the tube man yeah yeah that might that might have been last because I I don't think the way
this is written I think Tube Man wouldn't be allowed no I hope not Tu man would be something like would that I mean that is less likely to fly away because it's yeah yeah that'll be a promotional
thing so I don't have a problem with that what is that it's attached to yeah to bring them has out every day you bring it in at night so
Jen Mr chairman yeah I think we have to tread very carefully about introducing Lighting on the and there I I'm even trying to understand what benefit there is to putting writing
on theer most of them are out during the day yeah I assume just for the nighttime hours if there in a business that's open it could get crazy they could start ining I think lighting I really should
be carefully def in the code so basically if we were going to have a meeting I would consider having were supposed and then can I um try and be the middleman on this and try and get
a meeting together with you Kathy would you like maryan okay well Mr chairman mean other considerations because mean I've I've I wouldn't support this at all I'm G to use your own word it attracts your eye which means you're not looking
at the street I find these things offensive I find them very unsafe and if you ever go down a street as I have where you have them you know can can I always say to people you know can you picture everybody doing that can you picture
everybody on Center Street having it everybody on on North Avenue having that I'm sorry that I don't see that as a benefit to the community at all I really don't grand openings something special fine you know do do all kinds of things on a regular basis I'm sorry Victor you
know better and I I don't know this does either Cranford or Westfield permit them on a regular basis every day see I don't see see feathers on agree with you I mean I would not agree with I would not WN I mean I would not agree agree with that permitting
that kids are riding their bicycle on sidewalk those feather frames can get they can blow in your face they rotate with the whip so kids can hit it with the bicy do you even the light to
allow over coun counil counil have to adopt and and there are certainly legal questions with it false on somebody you know all that stuff so I agree 100% with
what you said that this is this is treading lightly treading slowly so so let's let's let's do this let's I just gonna suggest there's a there's a subcommittee of the Small Business board maybe we could put them
in a room with the subcommittee of this I would like to to share whatever representation is going to be from our board if that's okay with you okay good um so that'll be from here and Kathy would you like to be part of that okay
good okay thank you than that was it for me okay very good I will we will get back to them and let them know and try and work out a meeting date perfect Kathy now uh you want to present um yes the
application that we did last year app the the uh the a developers assistant package that we revamped last year
um based upon the conversations with this board on and with uh with uh Steve B uh suggest suggestions to to uh make some
changes um I sent out a new uh flowchart um Adele sent it to everybody um I got one feedback on the flowchart
um from Maryanne um prior to the meeting and it's just it was just something simple um making something that's red into black um if approved like I
had the word um approved in Red so I just need to change that to Black um anything other than that um on the flowchart um I I I
think we did all the steps that that was needed um like on the flowchart um do anybody have any any other comments on the
flowchart I like I try to fit all the wording into it to make it easy I think I did and I think and I think ultimately you can you can be you can overdo it to a point I think what you did is ex fits
to one page it's uh it's cons ice and it flows it have a nice flow to it I don't think that's an issue for my stand um and on page six um Chang um came about
clarify CH you know that I all we can press A Min the we have a few stages to app different
something that's but we're basically saying blow chart and six s you come to us we get an approval it's
going to have condition the conditions are going to be make these changes to the plan that evolved from the discussion at the hearing their reard input you're going to need
additional perits from other agents count to and the state possibly Federal Wetlands permit but I'll just stick to these two and so we say over and over again on the flowchart and we repeat
this you have to me you have to meet these conditions and in the end Victor's the one who's going to ser certify that that's been done and only with that all of that can you go for a construction permit or if it's time for a CO for a
CEO so we're saying the obvious none of this is different it's just being stated and it's in in front of every applicant that's the whole point of what we're doing now and so the changes that um Kathy's referring to is just
organizational really on on page six so that some who's coming in in two stages in other words preliminary and then final there's a two words written final application so they know when they get to that stage what they have to do to get there and then what essentially
happens but it's still one one page and a few lines so with that do I hear any other commentary from our board members yes we added yes okay but they not sentences
well that's that's a corre of the sentence right so what's the rest of the sentence which one what's either one of them neither one of the S uh the first one it says Revis plans conforming maybe I have an old one here but Revis plans conforming three requirements
preliminary Pro it order preliminary final both are so it together that's we it in that's going being fix okay the other one the other one is not a s you're doing the same thing there absolutely what with that so what is it you're
saying that they be they can come back here yes so um with that um I would like to if there are no other commentary here um I would like to make a motion to
advance this um with those minor Corrections um to the barel for for publication so I made a motion somebody want to Second Al okay R
please mayor Bloom hi lysac I Council MCC Carney I chair gree yes missio I miss biano hi Miss hang yes and Mr buers yes okay
great again Kathy thank you very much thank you good job um okay so we're kind of wrapping it up here um I have I have a question if I can ask certainly and
Victor would you have a status on the um on the um forgot the name of the the poy I'm sorry I just went playing Popeyes okay thank you and
um word from D chips okay I mean they the time they should make be made aware um okay uh with that any other comary board anybody having
discussions okay hearing hearing I will open the portion of the meeting to CH public for discussion or commentary all right Bruce good evening we got real old now and gr here
are we two or one couple things any I don't know and also yeah Med okay sorry okay thank you yeah I figet that yeah
okay Rich you had something your hand up there for a sec good evening Rich mccor I think probably got to break my heart that I'm not involved I really want to say that I get
and everyone and while you're doing it if I can open this up but with that said again go back thank you we wish you um yeah
thanks okay um tonight uh some bills and claims but you don't need to so with that Steve I could just make an announcement I want to thank RI McCormick for his planning board um and
I just wanted to also announce that um ulate maryan hay has now is now filling the class for spot so thank you for for that sck right after the meeting not to run
off and leave real quick nobody leave a motion I oppose thank you very much that was good don't leave yet okay we ready
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