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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: O5xg6nTVp8Y):
- 00:00:13: Meeting Commences: Welcome, Introductions, and Cell Phone Reminder
- 00:11:46: Pledge of Allegiance, Roll Call, and Administrator Swearing-In
- 00:14:38: Approving Minutes, Resolution for Circulation Element Adopted
- 00:16:32: Food Truck Draft Ordinance Discussion: Intent and Process
- 00:20:43: Public Comment 1: Time Duration of the Permit
- 00:23:36: Public Comment 2: Clerk's Office and Proof of Insurance
- 00:25:14: Public Comment 3: What Zones it's Permitted In
- 00:30:36: Public Comment 4: COVID-Style Operations
- 00:33:30: Discussion: Food Trucks and Use of Public Parking Lots
- 00:34:50: Public Comment 5: Food Trucks at Properties
- 00:36:28: Moving the Food Truck Ordinance to Council Review
- 00:37:53: Approving Invoice and Motion to Adjourn
- 00:38:49: Post-Meeting Discussion: Jokes and Early Father's Day


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Yep. I would miss roll for the minutes. >> Terrible. >> Hopefully. >> Evening folks and welcome to the uh to the planning board um for Wednesday, April 22nd. Um this is a uh a meeting of

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our board and um we have no application formal application at this time tonight. Um but we do have uh several ordinance or an ordinance to review and a resolution. Um at this time I'll ask anyone from the public and I don't see anybody here um to turn off their cell

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phones or to put them on silent but I would also appreciate if the board members do that too. Um and we'll open the meeting up. Uh pursuant to the open public meetings law. This is to state for the record that adequate notice of this meeting has been provided to the public by publication in the Westfield

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leader in January 2026 posting on the Barrow website and by posting and filing of said notice in the office of the municipal clerk. This is a regular meeting of the board. At this time, I'm going to ask for a moment of silence and a flag salute, please.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Adele, roll call, please.

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>> Mr. Arthur, >> here. Councilwoman Biano >> here. >> Mr. Greet >> here. >> Miss Velagio >> here. >> Mr. Neareststead. >> Mr. Barkin may be late. Miss Haye >> here. >> Mr. McCarrick >> here.

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>> Mr. Buyers >> here. >> Mr. Mason >> here. >> Mr. Di Maria >> here. >> And Mr. Biano is excused. >> Okay. Uh thank you. And uh at this time we're going to have a swearing in of um our our burough administrator John

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Arthur as our uh our phase two. >> You have the the oath for me or I could probably wing it. >> All right, we'll do this. I I'll wing it to my recollection as best I remember it.

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I'll wing it to my recollection as best I remember the oath and when we get the written oath later, we'll have Mr. Arthur sign it then. Unless you have it there, Adele. >> Um, I don't think so. I'm sorry. >> Okay. >> Oh, I do.

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>> Beautiful. >> I probably would have come close. >> I'm sure you would have, Don. That's our efficient secretary. >> Very much so. Okay. And Mr. Arthur, you're what? A class two member. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes.

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>> All right. So, raise your right hand. Please repeat after me. I state your name. >> I, John Arthur, >> do solemnly swear or affirm >> do solemnly swear >> or affirm. that I will support the Constitution >> That I will support the Constitution >> of the United States >> of the United States

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>> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. >> And I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. >> And I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and to the governments established >> and to the governments established >> in the United States and in this state >> in the United States and in this state

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>> under the authority of the people. So help me God. >> under the authority of the people. So help me God. I do further solemnly swear or affirm >> I do further solemnly swear or affirm >> that I will impartially and justly perform >> that I will impartially and justly perform >> all the duties of the office

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>> all the duties of the office >> of planning board member >> of planning board member >> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Okay, if everyone has had an opportunity to review the minutes of our March 25th

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meeting, do I hear a motion? >> Adele on that. We don't have a term then, right? Because it's just a class two. >> So, it's a year. >> Yeah, this year. Okay, >> I'll make that motion. Chair second. >> All those in favor? >> I opposed.

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Hearing none. Motion carries. John Arthur will abstain. Um, okay. We have uh resolution for the circulation element of the master plan that produced by our attorney. >> Yeah, I circulate that, Mr. Chairman, at

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12:36 p.m. today on email, but if anybody needs hard copies, I still am a lite and I have hard copies with me if anybody needs it. Seeing none, I'm going to let everybody know next time I'm not gonna copying and

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bringing 12 or 14 copies unless people really want me to. I'll bring four or five from that from here on out. That's all I had to say about it. Thank you. You pass that down, John.

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Okay. If everyone has had an opportunity to uh to review it and read it, um do I hear a motion to uh to move the resolution? >> I'll make a motion to adopt the resolution. >> I will second. >> Okay. Roll call, please. Adopt. Thanks.

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>> Mayor Blumentock. >> I. Councilwoman Biano >> I >> chair greet >> hi I >> Miss Velagio >> hi. >> Mr. Neareststead. >> Hi. >> Miss Haye, >> Mr. McCarrick, and Mr. Buyers. >> Motion carries. >> Okay, great. Thank you. And um we'll

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move on to discussion of proposed ordinance uh singular. Um we have we're going to uh hold off on the bicycle parking draft ordinance um until the following meeting. um prior to the meeting um we would summize that we'll

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get a an electronic copy sent to us um for discussion during that time. Is that correct? >> That's correct. >> Okay. Thank you. Um okay, we have the food truck draft ordinance and that was uh done by um Miss Valagio.

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>> Miss Velagio and Miss Barkinstead. Miss uh uh Lys uh who is no longer a board member and and we had uh John Arthur

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um has a burrow administrator. He was there and the chief of police. >> Great. So each of us had a hand on drafting this ordinance and and I also submitted

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the uh Westfield uh health department because they have you know a part in this. Um we tried uh with this ordinance we looked at our lane which is zoning

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you know what's allowed the um we didn't look at what the Westfield Health Department does with permits. We didn't look well. We

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looked at what the town does. Um um um um and the burrow has their own process also. Um burrow clerk,

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I think, right? The burrow clerk, the fire department, um um and the police department. uh um have their own. So, we looked at

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those. I didn't say we didn't look, but we like we looked at them and said, "Well, why should we uh reinvent that wheel?" So, we stuck with uh what our job

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was. Um we also um looked at and we have in it uh we didn't want to stop if Bay uh resident

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um in the uh residential zones want to um want to have a food truck for a birthday party. So, we excluded like we

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uh we uh had that in here also that they're allowed um with permits and l you know permits, licenses um that's interchangeable.

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Um so we also set forth the uh minimum uh and uh minimum um what's that word

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um minimum uh frontage you know like away from >> the uh set step back >> I'm sorry I just couldn't Um, so if you look through it, does have anybody have

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any questions? And this ordinance would be part of the uh food um establishment um section of the uh land use code. >> Did anybody have any questions or >> any concerns?

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>> Uh first of all, it's very well written, very thorough. The only question I had was and I did go through it a couple of times. It wasn't clear to me what is the time duration of the permit >> when you it's that's sent forth by the burrow that's one year. >> Well well there's different types.

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There's a temporary type which is a period and then they can have an annual license also or a different fee. >> Okay. Should that be part of the ordinance though or is >> it just to me I'm just like I didn't know if it was then if it's

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>> You want to elaborate on some of that? >> Well, that's part of their process. >> There's basically an event permit which is like a one-time thing and then there's an annual one. The only really reason to do the annual one is if you're going to be doing multiple events because you can't just, as you can see from this order, you can't just park on

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public street and have a fruit truck. Um so I don't I don't know if it has to be further elaborated here or whether we >> it's on the permit application itself >> right um >> permit application itself on

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>> um so we didn't want to double the work I mean we we don't want to >> doing >> one of the things we found during this uh Maryanne was that as Kathy said you know other offices have their own regulations regarding uh food trucks.

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And so uh we originally started on and then we had many more pages >> like I think it was eight pages and and then we said you know like at a meeting we go wait a second like it's already said over here you know why do double work

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>> you know high impede what their responsibilities are like the fire department you know they have their own responsibilities and their own code that they have to adhere to the health department has their own code that they have to adhere to. So, putting

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everything in this in it, that's not our job. You know, you know, that's not our job. But, um, that's not our responsibility. >> And trust me, it pained me to make it shorter. Yeah, but um we cross out we

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crossed out we crossed out a lot that we originally had regarding uh coordination with other you know the other offices and we just realized it it wasn't necessary and so yes on the application the time frames are there based upon the type of permit you're requesting.

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>> Okay. Thank you. I would just suggest in um subsection D of 106.100 um might perhaps should say the clerk's office shall require proof of insurance rather than request proof of insurance.

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But I would agree. I thought this was very well written. >> Thank you. >> Yes, I think so too. And I just want to um point out to the board um this really originated because we were having some you know as the food you know after co a lot more food trucks were coming around

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doing things and I actually had a couple of different food trucks talked to me about where they could operate and how they could operate and I actually uh uh Mr. Venega and I talked about it. there was nothing on our books about um the

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zoning uh for these trucks. Uh you know, so he was kind of using his own logic about it once when they would apply for these permits with him. But we wanted it to be consistent across the board. Obviously, you don't want to be giving one food truck rules and then a another

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food truck different rules. So that's where this originated where we said we have to bring this back and finally have a mobile truck, mobile retail food facility ordinance um so that we can just set these and be consistent and have a place for everybody who you know

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owns one to look at. Uh so they know their rules. Um so thank you for doing that. Uh I appreciate everybody involved in this. It was very uh very well done and I think it it works and once it you know if we do approve it and it moves through we'll have to make sure anybody

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that um currently owns a permanent is operating now knows uh you know the consistent rules that are in the ordinance and abides by them. So >> yeah, I'll just I'll just thank thank the uh the committee for for the work

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they've done and and it really does it looks looks very good. So, um, with that, do I hear a go ahead >> question? Um, Gabe, >> like you mentioned something, >> um, >> the only question I have is, um, >> today

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>> this in terms of does it >> clearly say what zones it's permitted in. >> Um, I I when first of all, great ordinance. I when I read through it, I didn't see anything specifically saying what zones it's permitted or not

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permitted in. And maybe I missed it, but for my reading, I didn't see that. Well, >> I think in >> permitted in >> 100.1 um

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>> it goes into where it can be. Uh >> it can only occupy lands that have active principal use. So I don't I guess it doesn't talk about zones, but it talks about >> doesn't >> I mean a a food truck is permitted in every zone.

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>> Okay. >> Yeah. It's not as if it but it it comes down to like if you're in >> an industrial zone and you know you're having some event or something, you know, you can have a food truck for a period of time based upon permit in a in

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a in an industrial zone. a residential zone. Well, you can't store it there overnight, but you know, you have certain restrictions time-wise where you can have it for, as Kathy said, for a birthday party. So, it's not really restricted by zone, it's restricted by

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the regulations embedded within the permit. >> Okay. So, it is so even if it's not a special permit because it it says special permit for food food truck in a residential area. So even if they don't have a special

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permit, a re a food truck would be permitted in a residential area. >> They still need the permit. They still need. >> So yes, >> does that need to be clarified? >> Yes. Also says what kind of peppers and tomatoes and I'm

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>> if it needs to be clarified. No, I I just I just wanted to make sure it was the tent that it be permitted in all zones and I just wanted to clarify that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I mean, I believe that's where we ended up, Kathy, wasn't it? That >> you have different restrictions basic, you know, but they are permitted in

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every zone. There's nothing preventing um, you know, a business in the industrial zone from having a food truck, you know, there for some type of event at lunchtime or what have you. There's nothing preventing a resident from having a food truck there for, you

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know, a birthday party or something dependent upon the type of permit and those number of hours. You can have it in any zone. And from my own perspective, I think I think if you identify by zones, you're kind of limited. Well, you're not limiting, but you're some people may be confused

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because they don't know or don't understand the zoning specifics of of our our town. And do you really need to have that that knowledge if it's if it's spelled out in this pretty much across the board for for someone who's not

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familiar with that uh to be able to just get a truck and have it have it placed in a residential area or in a commercial area? >> I'm not even sure the question. Um because you know place is the word that threw me. It's like, you know, they can

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have it placed there for a limited amount of time, then you got to move it. >> You know, I mean, one of the things Steve Barkin kept bringing up was, you know, the ice cream truck, >> you know, I want to I want to allow the ice cream truck in a residential area.

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He was big on that, >> like which we specifically changed to say ice cream truck. Yeah. >> But that ice cream truck has to have a permit. They have to go through the town >> and have to have a permit. And when one of the items that

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uh the Westfield Board of Health brought up was VIN numbers and license plate numbers that they should be on the permit. Um because

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it's spec each each permit is specifically for that one truck, not the entity. you know, say if you know, some guy owns five trucks, then then and if you know, one of the

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five trucks will be in town, um, each one of them, if they're going to come into Garwood, must have their own specific permit. And and also this will like allow

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some enforcement of of those trucks that may or may not have a permit uh you know because they have to get inspected by the fire department and the health department. So this protects us also. >> How how would this affect the um COVID

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wonder style operations? The what >> wonder do you remember during >> co >> I don't even know if they have those trucks anymore. They don't but um >> I would imagine if they did similarly they have to get the permit and then they're allowed to do what they do as

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long as they have that permit >> but but only for a special event because they can't do it on a public road unless they have the special event permit. >> Right. Now, now John, um, what I was told about the scream machine, you know, the the

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ice cream scream machine that they scream, >> they have permits. >> Yes, >> they do. >> But do they have one for every vehicle? That's a good question. Or do they just have one as a company? >> I don't know. That's >> that we'd have to look at. >> Yeah. Oh, and this ordinance um

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would allow the town to, you know, with uh special events to have uh numerous food trucks. It exempts um nonprofits and any um what did I just say?

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You know that that they can have a food truck festival. So it doesn't stop the entity itself from having a food truck festival because uh St. An's I think has it. Um

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they're a nonprofit. Um Hero has it, but each of each of those food trucks are responsible to get their own permits, >> right? Health permit, as you said, fire permit. The one that had surprised me, and I won't get into it, but was police.

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>> I didn't realize the involvement of the police in a food truck and and they're actually involved in it, too. Um, keep in mind, it's a difficult ordinance to write because we don't generally the board doesn't generally regulate things that move, you know, trying to regulate

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buildings. And so, it's like this is temporary, so how are you regulating it? So, it's >> it's it it's difficult. And uh >> I think we did it. >> Yeah. Well, I we'll find out if we did it because I not that I hope, but I fully expect to get some questions and

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some issues, you know, about what about this, what about that because with this one in particular, I don't think >> I don't think we thought of everything. Something's going to come up. >> So, we thought about a lot and we try to >> to limit the amount of verbiage in order

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to achieve the end result. >> Let me ask you about a situation. Oh, I'm sorry. >> No, no. um that has come up and I do think it addresses it. Let me make sure I'm reading everything correctly too. Um a food truck that wants to park in the

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public lot of Lorenzo's and they say they'll pay the me you know the park mobile but that's burrowowned so they are not allowed to do that because they're not allowed to um occupy burrowowned property. Correct. I

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get a kick out of the public lot of Lorenzo's. That's what we call it. >> I call it the Lorenzo. >> I know. Sorry. >> When it was first made, I remember they called it Lorenzo Lorenzo's parking lot. I remember that. Well, >> um >> cuz that and to me I went, "Oh, yeah, sure. They can do that." But then you

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think if one does it and they see it, you're going to have five trucks in that lot every day or at different points and there goes >> Well, since that's federal property, you're going to have to have that gentleman's signature on it. And I don't think that's forthcoming.

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>> That's where it it's for special events, not for everyday use. Yeah. >> Okay. >> You know, our our attorney brought up a good a good point. Um and that is what about a what about a bicycle that is selling food off the uh off the back of a small >> No, no regulations on bikes.

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>> No regulation of bikes. Let's not get carried. >> Okay. Just check it on. I don't know, Keith. Uh >> no mobile retail food establishment list bicycle in the definition. >> Yeah, it does. Yeah, we talked we talked about that as a group. >> I was making >> I was making a chair chairman.

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>> Yeah, I'll be selling hot dogs at the underpass next time >> in the brook. Go ahead. >> Sorry. Mary had a question. >> Question. So, um, Vermela often has food trucks like probably at least every month.

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>> Is that something that they would need to come and get a permit for? Or is it because it's on their property? It's not really >> Doesn't matter. >> Doesn't matter. >> Especially for the health and everything, they still need and they would they need for still. >> Wait, wouldn't it be the truck that

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needs the permit? >> Yes, the truck needs the permit. >> That's what I mean. But they on a regular basis, they'll have all different types of food trucks that are there. >> They have to have license for, >> right? And each one of them is going to have to get a permit for their use >> and because they have to be inspected by

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the health department and the fire department. I was just curious >> and I know they have done that. So >> that's one of those cases where if they're coming back like month after month they should get the yearly. Yeah. So >> exactly even it pays for itself I think at the second use. So if you're coming back twice you the yearly makes more

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sense than the one time. >> Yeah. Like we want to make sure of the setback too. you know, we just don't want a food truck being parked, you know, like on a sidewalk or,

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you know, but people can't see making turn. >> Okay. Any further discussion? >> Okay. With that, um, do I hear her here? Move to >> Mr. Chairman, I'll make I'll make a

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motion that this planning board forward the um ordinance on to council for their review and adoption. >> And with the uh with the inclusion of um item D that uh that Don Frasier had made reference to require >> requiring. >> No. No. >> Yes. >> Yes.

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>> Thank you. Okay. Do I hear a second? >> Second. >> All right. Uh roll call, please. >> Mayor Bloom. Abstain. Mr. Mr. Arthur. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Biano. >> Abstain.

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>> Chair Greet. >> Yes. >> Miss Vagio. >> Hi. >> Mr. Nearest. >> Hi. >> Uh, Miss Haye. >> I. >> Mr. McCarrick. >> Yes. >> Mr. Buyers. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mason. >> Yes. >> And Mr. D. Maria. >> Yes. >> Motion carries.

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>> Okay. Thank you. The motion is now up for the uh for our council. >> Adele, um I'll send you the original. >> Okay. >> I'll make that change and I'll and I'll send it to you. >> Thank you. >> You want a word document or you want to

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>> I think a word document would be Yeah. Okay. >> Thank you everybody for your assistance. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. We have one claim here for uh $1,025 from Prada Frasier and Forester uh for meeting attendance of April 22nd

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tonight. >> Make a motion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Opposed? Hearing? None. Motion carries. We will be paid. Thank you. And uh I'll open it up for um invitation to address the uh the board by anybody from

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the public which I don't see anybody from the public out there. So uh I'll close that portion of the meeting and um I'll ask for an adjournment. >> Um >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I

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>> I oppose. Okay, we're thank you. >> Not bad. starting at 7:36 >> 7:30 you know >> we just wanted to work slowly you know >> I'm sure when there's a big uh application we'll be here for quite a

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while testimony after 10 p.m. Right. Right. >> When you start actually for me out a little bit all that time. >> So like I'm happy. I got I got away with this month.

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>> Beautiful thing. >> Life evens out, right? I'm out of here. Maria, >> always a pleasure, sir. Yes, sir. >> I have played, but I'm going to um Florida tomorrow >> to visit my daughter.

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>> She's taking me for an early father's day present >> tomorrow night. >> Sunrise, Florida, see spring in Florida. >> Really? That's her That's her early father's day present. My me and my >> daughter. Let everyone know. >> Best father's day present. I

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>> got five years of life. >> Father's Day present. >> Oh my god. >> And so there was one item that I wanted from the last time that they knew what I wanted.

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The attorney looked at the applicant and I got it. >> How did I get home? Um, actually a friend from right. That's the way to get it done. >> How's the meeting? around

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