I just engineer. like to call the glass zoning board of adjustments regular business meeting for May 15, 2025 to order. Terry, can you please read the opening statement? All rise for salute to the flag.
I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands nationy and justice for all. Roll call, please. Here can you swear on our professionals,
please? Mr. Yes, I do. Yes, Mr. Chair. All right. Everybody has a copy of the minutes. Do I have a motion to approve the minutes? All in favor? Opposed? So be it. All right, we have
the bills. Do I have a motion to pay all bills? Have a second. All in favor? Opposed? So be it. All right. We have any incoming or outgoing correspondents? Good. All right. Anybody from the public
that has any non-aggenda items they want to speak on? Nope. Okay. Our application is ZB25-01 Elizabethwam EMK Properties 109 Silver A. We're looking
block and lot number four each zone is R2 looking for the bulk variance to allow over a thousand square foot driveway and additional driveway. Okay, good evening ladies and gentlemen. Uh my name is Kevin Duk. I'm the owner principal attorney of Katy Law
in Hannenfield, New Jersey. For purposes of your record, my last name is spelled D I D U C and pronounced to Duke, but please just call me Kevin. It's the easiest thing. It is my privilege this evening to present an application on behalf of my client Elizabethwa for the property at 109 Silver Avenue here in
the burrow Glboro. The applicant is seeking approval of two bulk variances specifically first from your section 107-42.1G where uh regarding the number of driveways she's proposing two driveways on this property whereas one is permitted as well as section
107-96.D2 D2 the maximum driveway coverage the two driveways there's two driveways at issue one is 480 square feet and the other is a th00and square feet so the cumulative 1480 square ft for both driveways is in
excess of your standard which is 1,000 square feet I do have um tonight to present is Mr. Gregory Simons. He's a certified and civil engineer. Uh he's going to be walking the board through some of the points of our application. I also have the applicant here herself,
Miss Elizabeth Quaam. Um Mr. Alice, if I could have our professional brought up and sworn in. Sure. Um anyone who's going to testify? Well, let's do it all at once. That's fine, too. So would each of you raise your right
hand and do each of you about to give tonight? That's two yeses. So please take a look. Okay. Um should we qualify the expert Mr. Alice or are you comfortable? Okay. Mr. Wonderful.
Okay. Excellent. Greg, if you could walk the board through the plan. We have an exhibit here. This is a um our plot plan. We'll mark that as A1 for purposes of your record. As you all probably know, um the address
of the property is Silver Avenue block. The property was recently approved for an addition to the existing building and a 20 foot by 50 foot drive located in the blue line here. What we're asking
for tonight is a variance to allow a second driveway to receive driveway space. A 10T by 48 driveway is proposed as indicated in yellow.
Driveways are about 16 to 18 feet apart and it be used for off street parking be safer parking it's not on the street off the street less crowd parking on street driveway is about 48 ft
long cars long cars three cars in the driveway The other driveway is 20 by 50. went through the fire engineers letter to comply with all his comments in there. Provide a
signature engineer provide a certified seal condition survey. provide some testimony on having off street parking be a safer situation. Okay. Maximum number of parking spaces
are expected on the building square footage and total number of bedrooms and total number of bedrooms to the owner. current status of construction. I believe my office just did an survey of
the property construction has been completed. We agree to provide walkway between driveways depicts the remite. We remove that note and we would provide all the construction details.
that are requested concrete construction details curve curve driveway sidewalk and fence that is the basically the extent of the engine
okay we are submitting this request under essentially as a C2 variance um we do believe that one obviously identifies a specific piece of property and that as a result of the parking and the facilitation of parking off the
street, it does provide for uh a promotion of that general health, safety, and welfare, which would be under section A of the municipal land use law. Um the building itself and the driveways actually help facilitate
um the housing situation which Miss umwam will speak to but in essence were promoting the establishment of appropriate population densities and concentrations uh by facilitating further facilitating that housing. So I would ask MissWam to
step forward and just provide the board with some of the testimony requested by Mr. Kasabun's letter um with respect to how the property is being utilized um including the number of bedrooms and number of bathrooms if that's okay. So Miss if I could have you step forward that's
yellow wide by We actually have a rendering of what it will look like. Um, you drove by. So, so why don't we do this so we're all literally on the same page. Help yourself and put it up there on the
stand. Okay. And then have your market have your market. A2 and then you'll describe it for us and then tell us anything you want about it. Yep. And I also made copies of the two pictures I have for everybody if you want me to
pass them out as well. Well, one thing at a time. Yeah, that's So, I want to do kind of want to start with this A3 first, but this was taken today. This is what it looks like. Okay. So, so forgive
me, but you put up A2. So, I want you to tell me what it is. Yeah, put it up there. What is it? Um, so A2 is a picture we took earlier and we photoshopped what it would look like if
that second driveway was put in. So this is the this is the current driveway that's in there right now that was approved. Um, this is the current sidewalk going to the front door. And then this is what was photoshopped in to give you kind of a feel for what it
would look like. All right. Now put up A3 and tell us what A3 is and then you start wherever you want to start. Okay. So A3 I took a picture today so everyone could have an idea of what it looks like
right now in case you didn't get a chance to drive by um without the driveway so that you could kind of see where it would go. And then obviously with the Photoshop it helps a little bit more.
Is that helpful? Would you like me to pass out the pictures of A1 and A2, the smaller pictures or is that unnecessary? This is fine. Yeah, this is fine. Thank you, Elizabeth. I'd like to add one more thing. There was a horseshoe drive on
property and there was two curve cuts existing on the property. I have the picture of that right here in A2. This is the um overview of what it used to look like. You have the horseshoe driveway with a little bit of space up
here and the two curve cuts. So, we would be using the curve cut here and then this curve cut ended up being double wide. So, that's the difference between the curve cut here. So, you have the two curve cuts that was before we purchased
the property with the horseshoe drive. Okay. Uh, if we could, Mr. Alice, turn it to Mr. Kaboom if he'd like to address anything with our engineer, our applicant. Mr. Chair. Mr. Cosbone. Sure. Thank you. Well, Mr. Simon said that he run through the whole letter and agreed
to everything and addressed it. Just so just one follow up on that. Is there going to be parking in the garage? Yes. Okay. Because I don't think that was mentioned during the parking. I think it was just He said three in the driveway. I think he said, "Can you just go over
the other? Do you mind at five?" Yeah, please. So, what's the maximum including including garage? So, when we initially did the plans, as we do with all the houses, we try to do as much parking as possible. So, we always include a garage
in the new build. We have to add two more spaces. So, we have the two spaces in the garage and then and three. So, a total of eight prior to us coming before the board to add this spot.
11 total. Yes, it would hopefully be 11. That was the only question I had. Miss Adamson, do you have our letter
dated April 10th of 2023? No, I do not have your letter. I have it. No, I know you always do. You know what? And and to Terry's credit, um we are second council on this
application. So, we got tagged in and perhaps it was lost in transition. So, For sure. Understood. Complete. Okay. Well, I can go through this. Should all make sense. Did someone give you a copy?
We have a copy. Okay. So, the first comment was just testimony of past approvals, applications. Um, so this was already approved. The building and the one driveway were already approved with the previous application from what I
understand. Number two, there was a comment that the driveway is going to be 10 ft and the ordinance requires 20 and two dwelling. So, you need to ask for relief of
that. That's number two. Number three is uh you're only allowed one driveway for single family dwelling. This is not a single family dwelling. Am I correct in that? single. Okay. So, you need a waiver because you're gonna have two
driveways. The third is about the fencing. So, the fencing, how high is that fencing? So, you're allowed to have 48 in and no higher in the front yards and sideards. How high is the fencing that I believe? Okay. So, it's three
feet and you're going to put that detail on the plan. Number five is the fence can't come closer than to the street right away from the curb line, whichever is greater. Can you move the fencing back?
It looks like it's going right up to the the rightway line. Do you want the fencing right here? Yep. Yeah. Just move that back to five feet from the rightway line. Oh, from the rightway. So, you have the two feet in from the Just so I know the two
feet in the the uh sidewalk and an additional five feet. Well, if you look at the plan, there's the rightway. So, you want to move it five feet from where the rightway is. Okay. Or you can take basically you got the curb line is 10 I think it's 10 feet from the rightway and
then another five feet. So, it' be 15 feet from the curb line. Okay. Or unless it is what what Kevin's Do you have an issue with that or is just subject to What's the reason for it going all
the way up to the property line? Is it to keep people from driving off? It's not Yeah, it's 15 foot the curve. Do you want to scale? Why is the line going all the way up to
the There's no post. Okay. Okay. Can you take the line off? There's a There's basically It's going to be an administrative thing then. Just take the Yep. It makes it looks like it's going the white all the way to the right away but it is not just take that
off so it's actually I don't know because this is this is the this is the actual picture of it plans show a dimension so we'll make sure the plans match 5 foot off the rightway make sure the plans have a dimension that's okay well it's going to be
so there's no trees on the site that are being removed And just a clarification, so the plot plan stated properties LLC is the applicant and the owner, but the application stated the applicant and
owner is Elizabeth. Yes, I'm I'm one of two members of Okay, and that's it. The last two are just, you know, the plans once they get finalized in a electronic copy and the
grand number of parking spots ultimately when it's all factored in is 11 issues. So the board has any other comments or questions for the applicant or its engineer. Uh otherwise we would conclude our testimony and turn it to you.
Correct. As far as I can recygen is in order in order for someone to get an overnight I don't know is that what you're talking about? Yes. To park overnight. Right. So in order to get a parking permit overnight
your your registration and your driver's license has to have the actual address. And a lot of my tenants do not change that stuff to the actual address. So, most of my tenants don't qualify to get
a permanent overnight parking uh spot. So, um sometimes they'll call the cars in, which they're allowed to, but that's only a couple of times a month. So the drive will will help facilitate that issue and avoid that from being a
concern. But but are you saying that the burrow won't accept a copy of the leash? Correct. Yeah, they won't. That's I mean I don't know if they've changed that, but that's what I've known.
People not changing their driver's license. You get that from the police department. Yeah, because I and and it could have changed since the last time I was aware of that, but from No, no, no. You it it supports in an odd way. It
supports your proposition. It does. Okay. All right. Mr. Chairman, might I jump in with one more question before you open the public? Uh can we hear about um just a little bit more about the total build out of the house, the bedrooms and bathrooms and maybe any other key
features? Yeah, absolutely. So um so this is the original house right here. This is the addition. Um the house was originally a threebedroom, one bath, I believe. We um it is now a 13 bedroom,
uh five full baths and two half baths. Um When we initially went to build it during that process, um actually changed their ordinances where there is an area
close by to here where they allow more parking, but then they also restricted much of the area to now only five bedrooms. So, we were kind of caught on the tail end where we were still approved for our house, but we're not in
that where they now um approve a lot more of the square footage to be parking. Um the uh the tenants are scheduled to be moving in um June 1st. There's a group of rurals. They're
actually my current tenants and another property that are coming over here. And um when I did the leasing process, I did tell them that this would not be guaranteed that this is the parking and they understood that. I do have a personal office down at the
end of the street where I have some wiggle room if they have guests, but certainly if I can get a little extra parking for them here, then they wouldn't have to walk back and forth. It would be on site. Um, and then the last thing I wanted to point out is uh this
is slightly different than a lot of the houses on there because the frontage is a lot longer than a lot of the houses. So, does for um this type of layout without it looking too
compact because the frontage is longer than well when you laid it out I apologize just I heard that there was three bedroom one that was expanded to 13 bedroom five bedroom and how many half the two Yep.
15 total. So there's two rooms that are doubled and then the rest are coming from another bedroom. So they're moving into this. 11.
Um, so that one had an existing drive that allows for 12. Yes, they do. So, luckily they already now in that one they actually have 18 girls living
in that 13. So, they're going to have less girls living Um, and again, I made them very aware that there's a possibility it will only be eight car parking as opposed to 11
and to make plans for that, but it is located so close to campus that hopefully most of them are walking anyway and don't all need cars. A lot of the tenants that I do have that need cars are the ones that are student
teaching that internships, but then you have a mixture of ones that just do stuff on campus and don't really have a need to go off campus. Any other questions? at the top. I don't think they wait back in the
driveway then they're all out in the street each the lease agreements do they have you know sort of rules and regulations associated with them? Well, so so partly with with Silver App because some of the
some of the areas right around campus during the school year, you only have three passes to actually park on the street. So they wouldn't, unless they don't mind getting ticketed, they wouldn't be able to have more than three
cars from this particular house parked on the road. So, what they would have to do is either coordinate, which they're doing that right now at the house they they live in, coordinate. Okay. Well, who needs to use their car the most?
That's the one who goes towards the end. Who has their car, which just uses it on the weekends? So, that's what they've been used to doing where they're at right now because where they're at right now, they actually just had all the street parking taken away from them
entirely. So, this would be a nice change where they have a wiggle room of three cars to be parked off the driveway, whether it's the eight car or 11 car. And hopefully with the 11 car, it just gives them a little bit more
wiggle room because there's three that can move out without having juggle instead of two. And not everybody that lives there is going to have a car. Yes. Correct. Any other questions?
Yeah. So, so right now we grasp the whole area because the plan is to just have grass. There's some rough landscaping here right against here. Um and then they had asked for um a
walkway sidewalk or walkway in between those. So that would be the plan. So it'll be just a pedestrian walkway. Correct. Yeah. Yep.
Oh, another horseshoe. So um so the way the horseshoe was it was a single lane like this and then had Oh, right here. A single lane like here. And what we wanted to do was to um take
away from some of our living space to have that the driveway to add two more on top of the the garage. And in order to do that, once you start messing around with this, then we would have had to come in front of. So, what we did is
unfortunately we scrapped the nice U drive, even though I liked it. knowing that we would have to go in front of the board and kind of delay and who knows if the board would even approve it. So, we just went forward with scrapping that making this the two-way and conforming
to what currently is um on the guidelines for the build. So then once we heard that they kind of switched around ordinances and started to allow for more off street parking in certain areas, that's when we thought, well,
maybe they, you know, people might have a bigger appetite for more parking because if we were allowed to have more um impervious coverage for parking, we probably would have pushed the house back a little bit more to add a little bit more.
So, we did this to conform and then now I'm here because I'm hoping with kind of the new ordinances and a new field that it's something that people would be a little bit more open to with having a second year to
supplement the parking. I got a question and I it's it just begs to be asked. Yeah. Um if you have all of your people in the in the house. Yeah. How are they going to get out of the
driveway if they're stacked one behind the other? So, typically they because it's so close to campus, most people aren't driving to school. I don't know if I don't know how crazy the community
parking lots are right now, but what started to happen over the years is um the community parking lots start to get very full. So the kids even if they wanted to be lazy and go park, they would be like circling around for parking spots. So more and more of these
kids are no matter what walking to and from class. So, the majority of the kids that are living in these properties are full-time students going to class. So, you're not expecting that they'll all have a car. No, no, no, no. Correct. Yes. Yes. Correct. Um, a lot of the kids
do not have a car. Some that do have a car will have a car so that they can come and go for weekends, but not on a daily basis. And what tends to happen now the uh Amazon and all the delivery type
stuff. Um they spend less and less time actually going out shopping either. So there's a lot more deliveries that come in and a lot less driving. They do juggle certain amount of cars because of like I said a small percentage that do
student teaching or have an internship but for the most part the majority of the kids are going to and from class which is right there. Anything else? Since there's no other questions I need a motion to open for the public. All in
favor? So it is there anybody from the public that would like to speak on this matter? I don't see anybody. Do I have a motion to close? All in favor? Opposed? All right. Prior to making a motion, I just want to go over that we
have to do it in the affirmative. Okay. Everybody understand? Mr. Chair, we forget, you know, we haven't been here. We haven't been here since January. We've had a little vacation. Yeah, we had a hiatus. Just want to remind
everybody and anytime we have a motion to the chairman's point, it is got to be framed in the correct and then a yes supportive no. Yeah. Do I have a motion on this? Yeah,
Mr. Mr. Smith. Mr. Lopez against a workshop committee. Thank you very much. All right. Uh solicitor's report. Um I believe we have a single resolution single resolution and this is
really just toel. All right. First, we have we're going to amend resolution R25-04. There we go. Do we have a motion? You're fine. Have a motion to approve the resolution. Y, please. Sure.
And that's it. That's the only resolution. Mr. All right. We don't have any old business, nothing new, nothing in the pipeline. We do not have anything in the pipeline. Looks like our next meeting is June
19th. I just want to thank everybody for coming out. I know we're all volunteers and sometimes we have other things that need to get done. However, as long as everybody keeps Terry in the
loop and we know what's going on. We should be fine. It's been kind of quiet this year. Last year we didn't have a breather. Um Chick-fil-A's cutting ground soon sometime maybe. Yeah, they've met all
their conditions from a couple years ago when they were before the board and I believe they've gotten voting permits. What happened with the DOT on that one? Uh they issued their approval. Um I believe it's got um the the left turn lane was Their original plan was to have
only one exiting lane on there. Wow. Might want to consider putting the firehouse across the street. You're not kidding. Motion to adjurnn. All in favor?
Absolute disaster. It's so small.