I'm flying out Florida. Yes. Good evening. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance and please remain standing for the invocation by Deacon Ken Carpinelli. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Music] Good evening. Let us
pray. Heavenly Father, we thank you for this weather, the sunshine in which you have provided us. We thank you for all the gifts that you have given to the people of Gloucester Township. May we
use them well. I ask also, Lord, that you would give us the strength and wisdom to be able to use all the gifts in a positive way, one to care for each other. Watch over the members and leaders of this township.
Grant them strength, wisdom, and an open and and clear heart to be able to hear the needs of the people, to discern what needs to be done, and the strength and courage to fulfill
them. Help us too to be able to do what we need to do, to stand up for each other, to love one another as you love us. And may it always be that we follow the best part of
ourselves by following you. I ask all these things in Christ's name. Amen. I do. Good evening. This regular meeting of the township council is being held in accordance with the schedule of other meetings of the township council
established and adopted by the township council which schedule designated the time and date and place of this meeting. Adequate public notice of this meeting has been provided pursuant to the provisions of the open public meetings act. We're using electronic amplifying recording device in order to obtain a
clear and audible record and we request that all those wishing to speak be recognized and state your name address directly to the microphone. The recording device be solely utilized by the township clerk's office for the preparation of minutes and shall be the official record of the township council meetings. Madam clerk, man the roll
call, please. Mr. here. Mrs. Albright Troxel here. Mrs. Grace Love here. Mr. Nash here. Mrs. Walters here. Mrs. Wyers here. Mr. Marcato present. Mr. Carlamir here. Mr. Cordis here. Chief Harkkins here. Mr. McIll here.
I have a we have a close session item. Um, so I need a resolution to exclude the public from discussion of exempted subject matter at a regular meeting of the township council gloster pursuant to NJSA 104-6 at SEC of the open public meetings
act. This is discuss a legal matter most likely but take about 20 minutes. Can I have a motion please? I'll make that motion. I'll second it. Roll call, please. Mr. Minion, yes. Mrs. Albreight Troxel. Yes. Mrs. Grace Love. Yes. Mr. Nash. Yes, Mrs. Walters. Yes,
Mrs. Wyinners. Yes, Mr. Marcato. Yes. [Music] [Music] So All right. [Music] [Music] question. [Music]
No. Okay. That's my [Music] Chopper six is coming in. Sound like a helicopter. That would be to one of these movie nights. Yeah, they're cool. I went to I bring my kids home. Yeah, I haven't gone
in a while. I try get them to go. They tell me to get a little pizza and sit in the car. They said no. It's over at the park. It's um Oh, it's not the driving one. No, it's the drive. You got to sit. Oh, you get a like um lawn chair.
Okay, there you go. Refrigerator. [Music] so fast. I just had a little light. That's all my [Music]
phone. Well, change. They're different. You have to understand the the old ones were 20 years old was part of our problem. Okay. It's also much more sensitive.
I have to bring it around. But the problem Madam clerk, can I have the roll call again, please? Mr. Minion here. Mrs. Albury Troxel here. Mrs. Grace Love here. Mr. Nash here. Mrs. Walters, here. Mrs. Wyers, here. Mr. Marcato, present.
Mr. Carlamir here. Mr. Cartis here. Chief Harkkins here. Mr. McIll here. That litigation matter is still ongoing and uh it's most likely we'll have to meet in a close session again. Uh so thank you for being patient on that.
We'll now go to our first public comment portion. This is for agenda items only. Anyone wishing to address council, please raise your hand. Each speaker is entitled to three minutes uh on the first public portion. Again, it's for agenda items only. Once you have made any comments or questions, we'll answer
at the end of the public portion. Anyone wish to speak on this first public comment? Seeing none, we'll close first public comment. Ordinance 0-25-11, ordinance amending chapter 67 of the code of the township of
Gloucester entitled peace and good order to establish article number three entitled block party applications. Uh this is to uh amend chapter 67 entitled peace and good order to establish article 3 entitled block party
applications where identifies and describes what a block is a party a street and that a permit is needed in order to have a block party. It indicates the application fee of $20 that a petition has to be assigned by
75% of the residents who reside in the affected area. Uh the approval or disapproval of the application goes through the chief of police department, the chief of police and his department. Uh there has to be a validity of the permit cleanup of the uh block parties
afterwards and that there shall not be any obstacles blocking streets to be movable. Uh we'll now open up the public hearing on this ordinance. Anyone wish to speak on this? Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing. May I have a motion,
please? I'll make that motion. Second on the question. Roll call, please. Mr. Mo, yes. Mrs. Albury Troxel, yes. M. Grace Love, yes. Mr. Nash, yes. Mrs. Walters, yes. Mrs. Wyers, yes. Mr. Marcato, yes. Next is ordinance
0-25-12. Ordinance amending chapter 81 of the code of the township of Gloucester entitled vehicles and traffic section 14 entitled parking prohibited at all times on certain streets of the code of the township of Gloucester. This uh amends section
81-14 designated as parking prohibit all times on certain streets to be hereby amended as follows. Uh, Village Green Lane from the norly corner of Village Green Lane to 0 95 southernly there from Village Green Lane south from the
southernly corner of Village Green Lane to a 18118 ft norly there from Farmfield Lane east from the easterly corner of Farmfield Lane to a 110 ft westly there from and Farmfield Lane south from the
southernly corner of Farmfield Lane to a 30 feet norly there from this will now we'll have a public hearing on this ordinance. Anyone wish to speak on this matter? Seeing none, we'll close the public portion. Public hearing. May I
have a motion, please? So move. Second on the question. Roll call, please. Mr. Mo, yes. Mrs. Albridge Hawk, yes. Mrs. Grace Love, yes. Mr. Nash, yes. Mrs. Walters, yes. Mrs. Wyers, yes. Mr. Marcato, yes. Next is ordinance 0-25-13.
Ordinance amending chapter 81 of the code of the township of Gloucester entitled vehicles and traffic section 22 entitled stop intersections of the code of the township of Gloucester. This uh designates uh stop intersections in section 8122 and is hereby amended as
follows. Somedale Road West and Eaten Place. There will be a stop sign on Eaten Place West. Somedale Road, the intersection of Summerdale Road West and Eaten Place. A stop sign on Eaten Place East. the intersection of Somerdale Road West and Sherbrook Boulevard, a stop sign on Sherbrook Boulevard West. And
Summerdale Road West and Sherbrook Boulevard, a stop sign on Sherbrook Boulevard East. We will have a public hearing on this matter. Anyone wish to speak on this ordinance? Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing. May I have a motion, please? Make that motion. Second, on the
question. Roll call, please. Mr. Manon, yes. Mrs. Aubrey Troxel, yes. Mr. Grace Love, yes. Mr. Nash. Yes. Mrs. Walters. Yes. Mrs. Wyers. Mr. Marcato. Yes. Next is ordinance 0-25-14. Ordinance amending chapter 81
of the code of the township of Gloucester entitled vehicles and traffic section 20 entitled one-way streets of the code of the township of Gloucester, Camden County, state of New Jersey. Uh this uh amends chapter 81 section 20 of the code of township in Gloucester
entitled one-way streets to be and amend he to be and is hereby amended that Summerdale Road Westerly between West Summerdale Road and 1124 West Summerdale Road uh that no parking is permitted. May I have a motion? Oh,
excuse me. We'll open up a public hearing on this matter. Seeing none, we'll close public hearing. May I have a motion, please? I'll make that motion. Second on the question. Roll call, please. Mr. Manu, yes. Mrs. Aubrey Troxel, yes. Mrs. Grace Love, yes. Mr.
Nash, yes. Mrs. Walters, yes. Mrs. Wyers, yes. Mr. Marcato, yes. Next is ordinance of first reading, introduction. There'll be a hearing at the second reading. Ordinance 0-25-15, an ordinance of the township council of the township of Gloucester,
County of Cand, New Jersey, amending chapter 63A of the code of the township of Gloucester entitled pawn brokers and dealers and secondhand goods. What this does is it rescends ordinance 0-14-07 entitled warrants to the
township council in the township of Gloucester County of Camden, New Jersey, establishing a procedure for the licensing operation of pawn brokers and dealers of secondhand goods and merchandise in the township of Gloucester and creating chapter 68 63A
entitled pawn brokers and dealers and secondhand goods in its entirety. So, it's rescending that and all subsequent amendments and replace with the ordinance entitled pawn brokers and dealers in secondhand goods. Uh, Chief, do you like to add to
this and what brought this on? So, what brought this on was some updates to uh um programs that we use to work with our uh pawn and secondhand dealers uh needed some updates. the system that we were
using I guess since I probably since 2014 or whatnot when we have had changes in technology in the amount of scanning uh and reporting requirements for the police department. Uh so this was actually brought on by uh the request of my we're we're an improved program that
we're working with the uh business owners. Uh basically it they have it makes them uh gives us authority to have them when they take a pond or secondhand item uh make sure that we get proper uh identification make sure that we
identify it and keep track of it so that if it is stolen property we're able to pick up on that. It's also updating some of the fees that were all involved that needed to be quite frankly updated from uh from several years which will offset the costs uh to the township to the
taxpayers so that uh the uh fees involved with the updated ordinance will offset any cost uh for the operation of the system for the township. Thank you, Chief. May I have a motion, please? I'll make that motion. Second on the question. Roll call, please. Mr. Mo,
yes. Mrs. Aubrey Troxel, yes. Mrs. Grace Love, yes. Mr. Nash, yes. Mrs. Walters, yes. Mrs. Wyers, yes. Mr. Marcato, yes. Next is our consent agenda. Any council member like to have any item removed, please speak up.
I I'm requesting that resolution 141, the application of First Watch for a place transfer of the retail consumption. If we can pull that off uh the agenda at this time most it will come
back but at this time it has to be pulled off. Is there anyone else like to pull anything off? So I entertain a motion to u amend our consent agenda and remove resolution 141. I have a motion please. I'll make a motion. There a second.
Second on the question. Roll call, please. This is to pull off the 141 off the agenda. Mr. Manu, yes. Mrs. Albury Troxel, yes. To amend. Mrs. Grace Love. Yes. Mr. Nash. Yes. Mrs. Walters? Yes. Mrs. Wy? Yes. Mr. Marcato? Yes. Can I
have a motion to accept the consent agenda as amended? Make that motion. There a second. Second. On the question. Roll call, please. Mr. Minion. Yes. Mrs. Aubrey Troxel? Yes. Mrs. Grace Love? Yes. Mr. Nash? Yes. Mrs. Walters? Yes. Mrs. Wyers? Yes. Mr. Marcato. Yes, we
have two GTE gov access emails. Uh, first is from Leslie Grubs at 514 West Esham Road in Glendor. Question for council. Are sidewalks or sidewalks going to be installed at 514 West Eve
Sham Road, Glendor, New Jersey? 08029. That is a county road. Uh, generally we do not install sidewalks on a county road. Um, so we'll respond back from the scrubs on that. And then our
second one is from Sean Broadick at 154 Tilford Road, Somerdale, New Jersey. My question is in regards to the possible permits now required for having a block party. Our 100 block on Tilford Road has hosted a block party for just our neighbors and friends of the neighbors
for several years. And we just we have just revived it last summer. In the past, we were only required to get the signatures of the affected neighbors and no permits were required. With the new proposal, our neighbors have some preliminary questions. Will there be a charge for the permit and how much will
it cost? When submitting the parking plan, if the block party is taking place in the neighborhood, what will be the requirements? Does the signatures required for the party? Are they for only the street and block that'll be sectioned off like before, or are we required to get neighbor signatures that
are not affected by the closure? If damage or injury occur outside the block party ex, for example, the next street over, is the permit holder responsible? For example, damage to a car home. Thank you. We look forward to hearing from you. The chief responded to Mr. Brick.
The application fee for the ordinance is $20 at the time of the application. The applicant will need to complete all the steps as proposed in section 6711 of the ordinance that just passed. The process will be similar to the previous application process of obtaining all
signatures of those directly impeded with the closure of the roadway and the permit authorization and responsibilities will only affect the area that the permit applies to, not other roadways or streets. And since every permit application will have different circumstances, the Glossera
Township Police Traffic Safety Unit will be available to assist residents with any questions about the application and the process. We'll now go to our second uh public comment. This is for any item that the public will wish to speak. Each speaker
is entitled to five minutes. They may speak at one time. Uh once everyone has addressed council, council will respond to those comments and questions after the public comment has completed. Uh Miss Corin, probably Miss Exin, Mr.
Burns, and Miss Smithman, and then Barry Salvatore. Correct. Got it. All right. So, we got five. All right. So far, and ma'am, you'll be after Mr. Salvatore, so it be six. Good evening. Good evening. Denise Coin,
Choose Landing. Um, I have some ongoing concerns that haven't been uh resolved. Um, I'm going to read because I have five minutes. One, apparent misrepresentation of salary allocations. Council President Orlando Ricardo stated
that employee Primo Cruz's salary is funded 28% from the mayor's office, 39% from the law department, and 33% from the sewer utility. However, the 2024 personal budget reflects allocations only to the mayor's office of 70,000 and
the law department of 100,000 with no sewer utility allocation listed. No documentation verifying the stated allocations has been provided. Two, mis potential misuse of dedicated sewer funds. The sewer utility is a dedicated
fund governed by NJSA4A 4-62 and NJAC 530-5.7. Gabriella Mascara is paid $120,000 from the sewer utility budget. Emails indicate that Miss Moscara is
actively sending administrative communications related to the mayor's office suggesting a role beyond sewer operations. No documentation has been provided to show her work is exclusively related to sewer functions. Three, payment of salary above ordinance range
without council or authorization. Mary Jodentino's salary is reportedly $11,000 higher than the maximum amount authorized by the township salary ordinance. No resolution or ordinance authorizing the higher salary has been
produced. Although a community development block grant was cited as justification, grant funding does not override the legal requirement that salaries conform to the approved ordinance. Four, creation of new divisions and programs without council
approval. Township officials refer reference the creation of a division of veterans affairs under the mayor's office. No ordinance formally establishing this division has been identified. Similarly, a new senior citizens outreach initiative was
launched without a formal council vote or a specific budget appropriation. Possible improper civil service classification for mayoral appointing. Documentation indicates that Mary Joe Dino's civil service title is a
community service aid job specification code 01314, a non-competitive title. Civil service rules require that an employees actual duties match the official job description. The official job
description describes basic public service support duties performed under supervision, not independent advocacy, program management, or official township representation. Township flyers issued by Mrs. Dentino in her in her
introductory level letter identify her as a single citizen senior citizen outreach coordinator advocating for seniors through the mayor's office and promoting a thriving environment for them. These responsibilities appear to be substantially
exceeded by the permitted scope for the community service aid. The public hearing for the municipal budget is approaching and I respectfully request that council address and clarify the issues outlined above before voting on the budget process. The public deserves
full transparency and I respectfully request you conduct an independent review of the township's budget allocations, payroll practices, and use of restricted funds. verify the compliance with the salary ordinance requirements, civil service regulations,
and Faulner Act government structure rules and investigate whether any acts of official misconduct, budgetary misappropriation, or improper governmental operations have occurred. And I have a list of potential violations um according to New Jersey
statutes. If anybody's interested, I'll be happy to send them to you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Xstein. Good evening. Good evening. Ira Xin live in Glenn Oaks. The last council
meeting I spoke about resolution 254110. It was uh had to do with uh the Blackwood Kanas getting lights and I asked how come it wasn't part of the uh capital budget and uh I was told that there was
additional money left over from the capital budget. You explained to me how there'd be money left over because I was under the impression that the capital budget is a total of all the different projects you want to do.
So, if there's leftover money, does that mean two things come to my mind? One, you put more money than you needed into the capital budget, or two, you took something out of the capital
budget. Which one is it? We'll answer at the end of the public. Thank you. Uh, who was third? I'm sorry, Mr. burns. Good evening, council. Brian Burns, Sawwood Drive. Um, I have some documents
I'd like to distribute to council and review them with council. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Didn't recognize you with the hat on. All right. So, what what you have there,
folks, um is the application for the recently passed sewer resolution on Hickstown Road. I opened the actual application itself and it surprised me when I get when I started to to dig
through it a little bit as to why this was approved in the first place. So the first page is the resolution itself and you can see what's highlighted there. Four commercial buildings each consisting of 10,000 square feet of
commercial space. If you go to page four, you'll see and highlighted the applicant says three buildings with a total of 20,000 square ft. So, the application is not matching the
resolution. You'll see below that it says office buildings and warehouses. The word warehouse was not included in the resolution. I'd kind of like, well, why wasn't that? And why why are these building numbers
and square footages different? It doesn't make sense to me. That that's a big question, right? If we move on, you'll see the plans, the sketches, concept
plans anyway for the four buildings and the square footages that are there. And it, you know, it it bothers me in the sense that now I don't know how many council people actually saw this application. So my questions regarding
this are as follows. Did all council members get a copy of the application and review it? Question number one. Question two, if not, why not? Question three, if so, why would council
members agree not to abide by their own master plan re-examination that says that this these lots and blocks should it become a redevelopment zone? And why was that not taken in
consideration when it's the own your own master plan? Next question was, why would council members agree to allow warehouses on a known n natural heritage site? So the second page on the back of
the handout talks about what a natural heritage site is. So there's like 365 sites throughout the state of New Jersey. It talks about their ecological significance and how important they are. So if it comes down to what is best for residents, four warehouses or protecting
a natural heritage site of which there's only 360ome in the entire state. What do you think residents would say to that? It would be overwhelmingly that that site should be preserved. And council had the
opportunity at that resolution to shut that resolution down, stop those sewers, and now it has to go to the planning board. You guys had the opportunity to stop it in its tracks. And I have a feeling that most council members didn't even see the
application. And why would the application that has discrepancies that don't match the resolution even come up for a vote? It doesn't make any sense. I'm a teacher. I did my homework
here, folks. It doesn't add up. Okay? And I would really like know. And those are the main questions. Did all council members get a copy of this? Did all council members review it? If not, why not? If so, again, why would
council members agree not to abide by the master plan re-examination, which specifically says this should be a redevelopment zone and utilized to the betterment of the residents of the community. My time is
up. I could spend a lot more time on this, but I appreciate you listening. Thank you, Mr. Burns. Miss Smithman. Hi. Good evening, council. Shaughnessy Smithman. I live in
the SDK Milbur Gardens apartment complex in what is considered Clement, New Jersey. Yet, I am told I am to utilize the Gloucester Township, New Jersey Police Department Municipality Services. I live on Milbrook Court in apartment
341. The back of my apartment faces a road called Kelly Kelly Driver Road, identified as Kelly Driver Lane on the New Jersey Transit bus schedule. I had quite a day today. I still have lacerations from
handcuffs while trying to ask the Gloucester Township Police Department for a Gloucester Township, New Jersey police voluntary statement form. Um, I can only assume that they would
think that brutal force would um deter someone, but I'm the youngest child and my dad used to beat me pretty good and I've made it quite clear. I'm not going to stop trying to get my identity back. I was placed under arrest today.
Uh, was today still April 28th, the year 2025? Well, it was so strange. This is the only piece of paper they gave me. one photocopy piece of paper that is three of seven with a court date on it,
the address without my apartment number. Um, and I wasn't fingerprinted. I was not read my Miranda rightites. I asked specifically if I'm under arrest, isn't there something
called a Miranda right? They told me I watched too much TV and they weren't required to tell me what they were. I have to believe them. But I think I've made it clear to this council also that I was severely abused. Um
maybe not as severe as other people, but psychologically and physically to the point I know I'm a less than citizen. Um, I heard uh the chief of police, David Harkkins, earlier speaking about pawn broking. He was doing something to
the effect to upgrade the laws and such. What is embezzlement? If you're supposed to be caring for someone and you don't assist them, there's a term called racketeering where you involve somebody in a scheme against their will. It sounds pretty similar to what is now
known as human trafficking and what might have an archaic term would be considered slavery. You know, to involve someone, use their their body, their reputation, whatever it may be, to make money for yourself without them willingly participating. There's a lot of
extortion. People will bring up things to try to make people subdue and just get go along with whatever the the crime is that they want to commit by simply asking to write a statement down from somebody that is a
lieutenant actually George Boick Bobick. He was telling me that I spoke with Chief Harkkins about the fraud case I asked him to investigate on June the 7th of the year 2023. I've never spoken with Chief Harkkins about that fraud case. I've only spoken
about it publicly and with the Glosser Township Police Department in the watch desk area. One time they brought me to a back room where it was already set up with the case number on the board, but nothing ever came of it. If he's suggesting in some way that
I spoke with him, he's wrong. If he's participating in fraud and stealing my identity because after being abused, I went to work. I was very fortunate I had a child. I wasn't even allowed to drive yet. Um but since the father loves
somebody else, I let him go go there. I I got a job. I tried to get child support, but you can't make somebody do something they just won't do. Um I tried. They were going to put him in jail. I stopped it. What is Chief Harkkins doing if he's
say somebody is not properly identifying the material that they brought? What is he doing? Participating in a in a racketeering scheme, stealing from one of their citizens, standing right here. Explain to them. This is a page three of
seven. It's got a court date on it for the 20th of May at 1 p.m. to be held right here. But I wasn't offered a public defender. What is he doing? Sounds like theft to me. Sounds
like he gets away with it by laundering money, but I can't prove it because I don't have my identity. Thank you, council. Thank you, Miss Smithman. Mr. Salvatore. Good evening, Council Barry Salvator. Hello, Hickstown Road, Cicho. Good evening. I remember at this time um just
a couple of questions please. Um I believe that Gloucester Township does not have a shade tree commission. So what is being done to replenish all these trees that are being cut down where all this developing is being done on March
24th when we were going over uh Mr. Cruz's schedule and the excessive amounts of redaction that was done. I mean, it looked like a CIA document from what I saw. Uh, Mr. Carlamir stated that he had no knowledge of that and it must
have been a special counsel that did it. What is this special counsel? Who who are they to determine it and who's paying this special counsel? [Music] Um, on March 24th, I also asked a
question about an uh entrance exit to the St. Pius properties off of Hickstown Road. I guess it would require an easement through the township property that's there because there's a I believe it's 240 ft worth of township property
prior to it right off of the road. Um, I didn't get an answer to that. Um, the woman from the planning board was here. I don't remember her name, but she had no knowledge of anything from the plans. Kind of found that to be a little bit confusing because if she's from the
planning board, she should know exactly what's on the plans if she's going to be at a township meeting. Um, last week somebody brought up something, and I am not trying to be argumentative with this, but I just have to, you know, voice a concern. Somebody
brought up that council is not here to, and I will, you know, soft air quote it, be beat up. Unfortunately, sometimes that's going to be what's going to happen. You
know, you're assuming that possibility when you run for council and you take a seat on that bench up there because township residents are not always going to be happy. And we're going to vent. we're going to sometimes get argumentative. Um, sometimes we will be
accusatory to certain individuals, but that's the job that's required of council in my opinion when you're getting $325 a night to sit up there. That's something that you sign up for. Um, and just one other thing, we have a
mayor that's drawing a salary of over $70,000 in the fourth largest township in the state of New Jersey. Why is that not a full-time position? He's got an an executive assistant that's making more than twice what he makes. Let's pay the mayor a little more and
have him here. I never see him at these meetings unless somebody's here to get an award and even then we don't see him. And I think that's something that's fair. I think he should be here. If he's home watching this, you should be
here. And that would be it for tonight. Thank you very much for your time. Thank Salvatore. Yes, ma'am. Good evening everyone. My name is Altha Vale and I live just down the street at the Colony Apartments. It's a 55 plus
community right by the Timber Creek uh dog park. And that's one of the things that I want to speak with you about tonight. Um I think it's not about the fenced in area where the dogs are allowed to run off leash. That's
wonderful. It's about the rest of the park, the the wooded trails and the McAdam area where dogs are supposed to be on leash. There are signs that say that. They're not really visible though. Um, but so many people left leave their
dogs off leash. For those of us that walk their dog on leash, it presents some problems. Um, a dog on leash can become very um protective and assertive if a dog off leash approaches it because
a dog that's on leash has nowhere to run if you know there's any aggression involved. So, they get very defensive and it could be it could be um become a very dangerous situation. So, I'm I walk my dog back there in the
trails at least four times a week. And every time I'm there, unleash dogs approach me and my dog. And I I always remind people that it's the law. They need to put their dog on a leash. And some of the replies are pretty funny.
They either ignore me or they curse at me or they quote Bible verses to me or they tell me that their dog is fine and mine isn't. Okay, so they're breaking the law, but it's also obvious they have
little knowledge of dog behavior. Um, and here are a few of the incidents that I've experienced and seen while walking my dog back there. Once a pack of five to six dogs were walking together with their owners, this big pack coming down
the trail. None of the dogs were on leash. My dog is the little guy. And so he wasn't real happy. I wasn't real happy. And I asked them to please put their dog on leash. And they just totally ignored me when they walked by. Fortunately, because my dog is small, I
could restrain him. Um, another time I was walking my dog and two medium-sized dogs came up to us. Um, my dog got really excited, wrapped his leash around my legs so that I
couldn't move while the other two dogs are jumping up at us and at me trying to get to him. The owners were nowhere in sight. Nowhere. So, for two minutes, I stood there yelling for the owner to come get their dogs. Now, had the dogs
been really aggressive, it could have been ugly for 2 minutes to be there cuz I could not move. The leash was wrapped around my legs. Um, many owner, many times owners let their dogs jump out of the car in the
parking lot off leash. And just last week, two beautiful Great Danes jumped out of a car off leash. Um, and they proceeded to go to a neighboring car and lift their leg on it and did their business on the co, not on the tire, on
the car. And then they stood in the middle of the row and and the car another car could not get down that row. So imagine coming across two great big danes, you know, on the on the trail if you're afraid of dogs. And and that's my
next point. Um be well before I talk about that the unfortunate incident of the woman who fell through the ice with her dogs and that was really awful and fortunately the Glosser Township rescue team was able to get her but think about it
wouldn't even have happened if she had had her dogs on leash. I mean she endangered her dogs and herself by not by not obeying the law. So, there have been um a lot of other incidents, but I'll
I'll close with this that the park is is there for everybody to use. I know it's a county park and I've spoken to uh a gentleman at the parks commission about this asking if if the county was going to patrol and he said no that I have to
that they can patrol but they don't have any um power to sight and that I have to talk to township council and township police about possibly having that happen that that has to be taken care of here.
Um, so I asked if somebody off, you know, police officers could patrol the park and give out citations. It wouldn't take many citations for the word to spread and people would know that they have to keep their dog on leash. Um, and
also, um, I see that my time is out. Just one more comment on that. um is that if it could be done plain clothes because I know that with human behavior. If a dog owner has this dog off leash
and they see someone in in um uniform, they're going to put it on leash. As soon as the uniform disappears, they're going to take the leash off. Anyway, that's what I want to ask. It's it's a potentially very dangerous situation out there in the park. A lot
of people will not use the park because of that and that's a shame. Thank you. Thank you very much. We have time for one more speaker. Anyone wishes to speak? Yes sir. Um my name is Mark Matthews. I thank you for your time because I'm not a Gloucester Township resident. I am a
resident of defort. But I just want to talk about a general uh theme that I'm talking with all communities about. Well, if you don't know me, I write a website called 42fere.com and I cover new things in the communities. I have a pretty good following and every day someone's asked
me to be their advocate. I write 500 stories a year. I can't be South Jerseys advocate. But there's one thing that I've really chosen that I I think influences all the communities, and that's open government. The reason why I am able to make a full-time living out
of writing is because journalism in South Jersey is decimated. So what that means is it means people like yourself have to do awesome things like record meetings and open things up and open up the the dialogue with the community. Excuse me. So why I'm here now what what
triggered this thought is Cherry Hill if I could just use this as sort of a analogy. Cherry Hill is a big development community just like you guys are very sharp planning board members and I'm listening to this meeting of the HMart which is a Asian grocery store and it's on Zoom and I'm listening to it and
like it was the most softball meeting I'd ever heard you know normally they're they're beating you up over the signage they're beating up over the landscaping and there was like not one question from the planning board and for me this is like watching the Super Bowl and turning my wife I say I can't believe what's going on here this is crazy so I'm
telling this because there's this woman Martha Wright. If you go home, Google her, Cherry Hill Martha Wright, you'll see. She goes to these meetings and she speaks. Now, they're ready to just go ahead and approve this. And this resident calls out and she says, "You know what? This supermarket does not
have any trash enclosures. There's no dedicated areas for shopping carts." She says, "Help, can you go, it's it's Zoom. Can you go to slide seven? Look in the top of the building. There's there's fog lights. We don't have an ordinance for fog lights in Cherry Hill." And you know
what happened? An amazing thing happened. The planning board said, "Martha, you know what? You are right." And they interacted with her and they worked with her and they moved through the slides with her. And at the end, they did approve the project, but it had like 25 different like uh extra things
like uh to to address that had Martha not been there and interacted with the officials and the members of the board, I think they wouldn't have been called out. So, that's my point. I just leave that with you guys for something to think about because you do have a little bit of a unique scenario here with the
uh the communication path with your council meeting here and I just want to share that story and that's it. Thank you very much. Thanks guys. Good evening. That will close the second public comment period. Um okay, I'm going to respond. If any council member
would like to jump in on any of these, feel free. Uh, Miss Coin, uh, Miss Coin made a statement that there was a misrepresentation of Mr. Cruz's salary. Miss Coin had sent me an email and I responded to the email
and the salary breakdown was provided by our director of human resources. Uh, so I was providing the information that was provided by our director of human resources that has a breakdown of Mr. Cruz's salary. Uh in regards to uh a
dedicated misuse of funds, again that is something that is through our human resources and also the business administrator. Um I can't really comment on or give you an answer about this of any misuse of
funds. Uh, in regards to Miss Mascara, I responded to you as well, Miss Coin, via email that you questioned why. She is on administrative emails. Miss Muscara served as the chief of staff since 2010 until 2024 and has institutional
knowledge of this township and the inner workings of the mayor's office. So, I'm repeating what I sent to you in the email earlier uh today. And as far as her responsibilities, she's a director of the sewer utility. I'm not responsible and I don't oversee her
responsibilities as a director of sewer utility. Uh, Miss Dentino, I responded to that that that is grant funded. Uh, that that's that CDBG money is used towards part her part of her salary. uh in
regards to the improper improper civil service and uh title. That's something I'm not versed on. Uh Mr. Carla Mayor, that's something that you could speak on. I I can't ex explain uh civil service titles. Um I don't have that in
my line of work. That's something that's done here in the municipality. I can I can do some Department of Community Affairs civil service titles. Okay. Uh the creation of Division of Veteran Affairs, Mr. Carl Mayor that is that something miss court indicated that did
not come before council uh and no resolution was passed for is that something that is common place that if you're creating a a veteran affairs office or if you have outreach that's done for senior citizens is that
something that you believe has to go in front of council well if it's I don't believe there's a director Tom am I correct it's not a director of veterans affairs director. So that's so they might be using the a title for an individual but it's not a director as
the uh the statute and and the township has a list of directors and meets its maximum number of directors. So I think they might be giving a title director of veterans affairs but not meaning it has director department of public works and there's no directors.
My my understanding is an extension of the mayor's office. So to say director is absolutely not correct. To say division head is also not correct. Okay. So it's an extension of the mayor's office. It's a service of the mayor's
office. Uh and Miss Corner also added to have the council provide a or conduct the independent review. Uh thank you for your comments on that. Uh Mr. Exein uh regarding resolution 24110 from our last meeting when money was left over from the previous year's capital budget. Mr.
cars. Can you explain that in times where we have capital budget that's money that is canceled and is is moved over? You can explain it better than I in this particular instance this money would have been equated with the section of the bond ordinances that deal with
recreation. So we do have uh as we all know we do have situations where we fund playgrounds and then we subsequently uh make application or make application at the same time but it takes a while for green acres to approve those
applications and those applications are supplemented not only with with uh large amounts of green acres funding but also uh Camden County open space funding. So that leaves money left over. One example recently was uh where monies were left
over was the batting cages. Uh we put money in the budget for the batting cages and unfortunately when we when all was said and done we had found a location. We had prepared our specifications uh the bids came in extremely high. Uh I think they were
close to 1.3 million $1.4 million. So that was obvious that that was something we would not pursue. So that left money in that particular line item which is in the same category as as the ball field lighting and overall projects could come
in under the estimated uh bid. So there there are many factors that play into why there would be additional money left over for recreation acquisitions. Thank you Mr. Carter. You're welcome. Uh Mr. Burns uh had questions regarding uh
resolution 252073 with the Hickstown Road uh uh project or the form a application. Uh the question is that all members of council receive the application review
it. I I can't comment on that. We have seven council members here. I received this application is a form a application to see if sewer can be used for that particular site. Mr. Burns, I've answered this on three occasions to you. Okay, Mr. Lees, Mr. Lees, can you
explain to everybody what a form application is? You're an engineer. You work with our sewer utility, but this particular application to see if sewer can be at that particular site. Council did not approve for 10,000 foot warehouses. Mr. Burns, it was an
application to see if sewer can be provided there. Mr. Lee, for feasibility, not a commitment. Thank you very much. I can't be more clear than that, Mr. Burns. Uh, Miss Smithman, thank you for your
comments. Uh, Mr. Salvatore, uh, as far as a tree shade commission, I Mr. Mr. Carl Mayare and Mr. Cars, you've been here longer than I have. Have we ever had anything of a tree shade commission in our township? No, not to my
knowledge. Okay. Um, has there any been talk of replacement of trees that are or I know in certain communities particularly urban communities where there are are shade commissions um and also replacement and replenishment of trees.
Not to my knowledge. No. All right, Mr. Salvatore, I'll dig into that for you. Uh, I owe you a response on the uh St. Pas property and the uh exit and easement. Um, Miss Corbin, I'll speak to you about that our planner and see if you have additional information on that
and I'll get back to you. In regards to Mr. Cruz's redaction on his calendar, you said uh who was or what is the special counsel? Madam clerk, I believe that special counsel for that was Mr. Mars. Yes. Okay. And he is from Archer
Griner, Parker McKay. Parker McKay. I apologize. From Parker McKay. So he said who pays for that? That's the township. it's part of and all of us. So when there's OPER requests or requests for that, there's a cost associated with
those things. Okay. So, uh, in regards to the mayor, the mayor's salary is $52,000 a year. It's not $70,000. It is $52,000. It's considered a part-time position.
Uh, I don't know, Mr. Car Mr. Carla Mayor, if that's something by ordinance that makes it a full-time position or part-time position. Uh, it has always been a part-time position, but I always hate saying it's always been done that way, but it's always it's always been,
to my knowledge, I've been here a long time, it's always been designated as a part-time. The mayor is not mandated to attend council meetings. Uh, there's a division between the executive branch and and the legislative branch. Uh so mayors sometimes have attended meetings but most mayors do not attend this form
of government meetings. Um the mayor's responsibilities it's not a full-time position. Uh it can be designated as such. I'm sure there are towns that same type of form of government that have the mayor spending full-time but their salaries are considerably higher.
Thank you. Uh Miss Dale, thank you for your comments on regarding the dog park. Is that something that chief that you know and she didn't I wrote down the county park but you said you reached out to them. So uh chief is there something that Yeah. So ma'am we'll get your
information officer Renick and so while we have authority to issue a citation there we don't typically patrol the county park system. They have county park rangers but that doesn't mean we don't go in there. I'm going to get your
information, connect you, and there is we'll come up with some resolution. I understand it's an issue. Uh there legitimate concerns 100%. Uh but there are things we can do. I will be in touch with a supervisor from the county parks.
It's run by Cammy County Public Safety Security. They have park rangers. Um, I will we will come up with some solution on if we need to assist them uh with enforcement, maybe some signage, maybe a time period. We'll get some solution if you can get with Officer Orenic
afterwards and we'll be back in touch. Thank you, Council President. We'll we'll address it. Thank you very much. And Mr. Matthews, thank you for your comments. I know a lot of people are fan of the work that you do. Uh, that's how I found out that interchange to 295 South opened up when that first happened and I thought maybe he was playing with
me because I was the only car on there. But yeah, so I do appreciate you priding the information that you provide. Um, and thank you for your comments this evening. Uh, with that, uh, polling directors, please. Mr. Carlamir, nothing to report. Mr. Curtis, nothing at this
time. Chief Harkkins, only want to, uh, thank council and and Mr. McIll for those ordinances you passed on parking. It's going to resolve many issues, long-term issues that we've had uh in these areas. The Summerdale Road situation was pro was has been that way.
Um but we uh received the complaint, looked at it and to get it properly to the uh traffic standard and then the village green parking situation has been ongoing. It's a public safety issue. So, I appreciate council uh considering that, passing that and I thank Mr.
McGill for his assistance in uh getting that done uh tonight. Have a good night. Thank you, Mr. McIll. Nothing on it. Thank you, Mr. Manu. Thank you all for coming. I just want to take note that I believe seven uh folks spoke tonight and uh I believe two of them all but two uh
took their five minutes. Thank you. Have a great night. Mrs. Abridge. Yes. Thank you for coming and thank you for the comments. Mrs. Grace Love, thank you for coming and everyone have a good night. Mr. Nash, uh yeah, thanks for coming. Uh what I thank Chief last week uh two
weeks ago, but I just want to thank you again, Chief and the police department. There was an unfortunate event at Paul 6 High School a few weeks back. A um child got in a car accident unfortunately uh passed away and Glosser Township was able to provide some grief dogs to the
school today and it was uh very very appreciative. I think it's a very nice thing we did. Appreciate that, Mrs. Walters. Um thank you for everybody coming out tonight. Um, also officer or chief, I was going to mention the same
thing um that Jim did. It's great to see how we as a community police can um help foster um other schools, children, staff that need help and those dogs are wonderful. So, thank you for bringing them on and everybody have a good week.
Mrs. Wyers, want to thank everybody for coming out and have a great week. Mr. Marcato, I want to thank the mayor's office uh this past uh Sunday uh sponsored and work the arts festival that was in downtown Blackwood in the
parking lot of the library. There's a little windy day out there. Uh but I want to thank them for their work on it. Also thank the historical society for having their event this past uh weekend. Uh this Thursday uh May 1st is National Day of Prayer and we'll commemorate that
by a breakfast that's being held at the senior center here if anyone wants to attend that. There are tickets but it's there's not people aren't rushing to to get in there. So if you don't have a ticket, come on down anyway. Um that's from 7 to 8:30 uh in the senior center.
Uh May 8th is the township's business breakfast will be held at Valleybrook uh country club. I believe the start time is nine o'clock for that. And I want to wish a happy mother's day early. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. I hope you have a great Mother's Day with um one last thing to add. Uh there
were residents that came here to discuss at our last meeting to discuss the uh RVs and campers. Um and I told them that we would have that at a workshop. Um I have changed that. We're going to have a subcommittee uh comprised of uh Mr.
Manion and Mrs. Albbright Troxel and myself. and we'll meet with those individuals as a subcommittee uh and discuss that particular ordinance. So now we'll reach out to those residents uh to discuss that. Uh with that
entertain a motion to journ. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor. Have a great evening everyone. when they introduce, you know, the typical this is