Good. We like >> we like men. >> So, you're good. >> I was at a um I was at an event. Oh, by the way, >> we need a date for the redevelopment entity. >> We could do the 13th of July. >> I've got something you want you to read.
>> Yeah. Huh? >> Yeah. >> Ready to go. Basically, this is what I'm gonna say. >> Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. Good evening. This regular meeting of the township council is being held in accordance with the schedule of the meetings of the township council established and adopted by township
council which schedule designated the time and day and place of this meeting. Adequate public notice of this meeting has been provided pursuant to the provisions of the open public meetings act. We are using electronic amplifying and recording device in order to obtain a clear and audible record and request all those wishing to speak be recognized
and state your name address directly into the microphone. The recording device will be solely utilized by the township clerk's office for the preparation of minutes and shall be the official record of the township council meetings. Madam clerk, may the roll call, please. >> Mr. Mone, >> he has a work commitment. >> Mrs. Aubrey Troxel
>> here. >> Mrs. Grace Love. >> Mr. Nash >> here. >> Mrs. Walters >> here. Mr. Castro >> here. >> Mr. Marcato >> present. >> Mr. Hutcherson >> present. >> Mr. Cartis >> here. >> Deputy Chief Stoulstein. >> Mr. Miguel >> here.
>> Miss Weiss. >> We'll now go to our first public comment. This is public participation for any agenda items only. Anyone addressing council may speak one time. There's 15 minutes allocated to this first public comment portion. Uh any
speaker is entitled to three minutes. Is there anyone like to speak on any agenda items? Seeing none, we'll close the first public portion. Ordinance adoption, second reading. Ordinance 0-26-10.
Ordinance amending Ordinance 0-25-23 entitled Ordinance Fixing the Compensation of Officers and Employees of the Township of Gloucester in the county of Camden. This adds a part-time position collection systems license
operator and provides a range. We'll now open up the public hearing on this. Anyone like to speak on this matter? >> Okay. >> I'm sorry. >> Seeing none, we'll close public hearing. May I have a motion to adopt? >> I'll move it.
>> Second. >> On the question, roll call, please. >> Mr. Minion or I'm sorry, Mrs. Aubrey Troxel? >> Yes. >> Mr. Nash? >> Yes. >> Mrs. Walters? Yes, >> Mr. Castro. >> Yes, >> Mr. Marcato. >> Yes. Next is ordinance first reading in
introduction. There will be a hearing at its second reading. Ordinance 0-26-11. Ordinance amending chapter 81 section 31 entitled speed limits of the code of the township of Gloucester to establish speed limit reduction from Clifton
Avenue to Pine Avenue in the township of Gloucester, Camden County, state of New Jersey. May I have a motion, please? motion. >> A second >> on the question. Roll call, please. >> Mrs. Albury Troxel, >> yes. >> Mr. Nash, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walters,
>> yes. >> Mr. Castra, >> yes. >> Mr. Marcato, >> yes. >> Next is old business resolution 2603-100. May I have a motion, please? >> I'll move it. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> On the question,
>> roll call, please. >> Mrs. Alrexel? >> Yes. >> Mr. Nash? Yes. >> Mrs. Walters. >> Yes. >> Mr. Castro. >> Yes. >> Mr. Marcato. >> Yes. >> Next is our consent agenda. Any council member like to have any item removed from the consent agenda? Please speak up.
>> I entertain a motion to accept the consent agenda as presented. >> Motion. >> Second >> on the question. Roll call, please. >> Mrs. Albert, >> yes. >> Mr. Nash, >> yes. >> Mrs. Walters? >> Yes. >> Mr. Castro? >> Yes.
>> Mr. Marcato? Yes. Next is our GTE gov access. Uh we received one GT citizens access question from Terry Fritz at 85 Cherry Circle.
In regards to resolution 266-238, I see that they need an additional $198,200 for this project. Can you can you supply an answer or information on the use of these batting cages for the children of Gloucester Township? Will the teams from
Gloucester Township Middle Schools and both teams Highland High School and Timber Creek players be permitted to use them as well? Or is this project solely for a group of certain children? I'm assuming that taxpayer dollars would continue to pay for the maintenance of this project. As a taxpayer, I would
hope that all children involved in group sports in Glossera Township be granted access. I'm asking because there have been several conflicting stories circulating on this topic. Can you please supply the exact information on the use? Your factual information is
greatly appreciated. Uh thank you, Miss Fretz, for your email. would try to clear up the conflicting stories and uh so our response to it well our recreation supervisor Bill Fagan had forward this information to the business
administrator and members of council and myself. Uh first they would like to emphasize that the glouster township athletic fields and recreation and uh center are intended to serve the entire community. The facilities are utilized by a wide variety of groups including but not limited to township youth
athletic organizations, elementary schools, middle schools, high school, colleges, and adult recreation programs. Uh we actively encourage the use of all recreational facilities and take great pride in providing opportunities for residents of all ages to participate in sports, recreation, community
activities. The batting cages will be made available through our community pass registration system where groups and individuals will be able to request request dates and times for use. Loster Township youth baseball and softball organizations which collectively serve
hundreds of Gloucester Township children will have the opportunity to request schedule uses through community pass. Gloucester Township middle school and high school baseball and softball teams will also be permitted to request use of the facility. In addition, dedicated time blocks will be established for open
public use. These open use sessions will also be managed through the community pass to ensure fair and organized access. Residents willing to utilize the batting cages during these designated periods will be required to register for an available time slot. As with other
recreational facilities, the goal is to provide fair and equitable access to the batting cages while maximizing the benefit to the Gloucester Township community. Uh the facility is intended to serve a broad range of users including youth athletic organizations, school teams, and individual residents.
So thank you for email. Thank you Mr. Fagan for providing that to us. He's our one of our recreation supervisors. We'll now go to our second public portion where the public can address any item that they choose to wish to address the
council. Each speaker may speak five minutes and there's a total of 30 minutes for this public portion and the speaker may speak one time. At the end of any comments that are made or questions, council will respond to those comments or questions. Would anyone like to speak during this portion?
>> Yes, Miss Schmidt. So, we'll go one, two, three, and Mr. Burns will be four. Okay. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. >> Good evening. >> So, I did write you another letter today. >> And >> can we just have your name again and address for the record? I'm sorry.
>> I I know we know who you are, but we just need it. >> 17 Oakland Drive, Magnolia, New Jersey. >> Good evening, Mich 3858926. Okay. >> Good evening. So, um I do have letters and I just want to say I noticed that um
the they were out your guys were out again, your employees met and they marked my street and our houses in green and the center of the street trying to indicate that the uh connection in the street matched the connection at the
curb. And so, uh, Brian, uh, you know, my next door, um, my next door neighbor, Brian, he, um, put his line in like three or four years ago and noticed that it is off on an angle. So,
I have enclosed a drawing of what I believe is a problem. And then, right a half hour ago, an hour ago, I realized I I don't know about my own house. So, I went downstairs. I measured my the my uh
north side to the sewer line which is 17 and so many feet. Then I went outside and measured and it's different out there than inside. So since I did a haphazard kind of a measurement, I am
going to have somebody measure it up for but so initially I do believe that the uh Saudi Dominico my neighbor many years ago when I moved in told me that the lines were done incorrectly but I thought he meant in the street but
I think it's the connection from the street to the house that is off because it's angled and this way the path of least resistance is into our homes. So I want I will give you these. So Brian, do
you want to uh say >> is that okay? >> Yes, we have come up. >> Well, Miss Schmidt >> Miss Schmidt, do you want to you want to you have additional time? Do you want to finish or >> Yes. Okay. >> No, no, I'm done. >> You're done. Okay. >> I'm going to hand you these. >> All right. Very good. And then we'll bring our next speaker.
>> Okay. Go. Good evening, guys. >> Good evening. Good evening. >> Brian Stabino >> and I live on 15 Oakland Drive. I live right next to Ellen. >> Like Ellen said, a couple years ago during CO, I replaced my main sewer line because I had the Birdsburg, whatever
that piping is, and it collapsed. But I noticed when I replaced mine, like say where the GT is, that's the connection. my from my house is like kind of on an angle like it's sloping this way and then our street comes downhill like this. So I heard the old heads of the town on
our street saying that um they think that when they put the lines in they put it in backwards. That's all they're saying. So >> okay >> that's all I had to say. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Brian. >> No problem. You're welcome. Have a good night. >> Okay.
Good evening. Uh, I'm Bernardet Pleka. I live at 531 Beverly. >> I'm the first house on Beverly at the corner of Oakland and Beverly. My sewer has been backing up since 1973
when we moved in. Recently, I I already submitted a letter. Actually, it was just bullet points and proof of 23 24 25 having Glustester Township
to it's not a it's not the sewer. Well, what's backing up is if I do three loads of wash, all that clear wash water that is from the rinse cycle eventually gets clogged in the street.
And I've been told this by plumbers I had to hire to come in and do rotorooer because in 73 I did not have um a riser at the curb where you could lift the cap off and clear it. Eventually we had it
re the sewer line from the house to the street to the curb replaced by Glendora Plumbing. They were the township representatives or he had a position in charge of the sewers.
It he should have told me then that it wasn't directly lined up with the main in the street because that is what all the plumbers have told me is that the issue is in the street. It is not my line. But I've had my line replaced
twice now. And after Ellen was here on April 27th, uh the township did send people out, they did open the line, but the two gentlemen that were
um inspecting my line literally told me that it didn't come straight up to my house. It went off at a right angle to my driveway. and they dug up a pipe which is it should be maybe used for
water. It's it's like an inch wide. I'm not a plumber, but I know that after having the my whole lawn dug up twice that it is a 4 inch pipe that connects to the sewer, not a little one-inch
pipe. I don't know what that is and they never would have been able to access it. But a few years ago, I had all my cement replaced and that center amount of cement in the driveway. I had them dig it up and I just have stones there now.
But my point is acted like I was didn't know what I was talking about. One of them told me I should fill my tub with hot water once a month and Clorox and that'll keep the line clean. It's ridiculous.
I I don't even I can't use my basement. You can't have people downstairs and not know if the water is going to back up into that utility tub next to the washer. And that's exactly what happens. It's been years like that. I want it
resolved >> and I have never heard back from anybody at the sewer department other than Gabrielle who called me to get Ellen's phone number. No, no follow-up reports, no word from them.
So, I would like that. Investigate it. And frankly, I think you should use an independent contractor. I mean, if somebody from the township is coming in and pointing to me and telling me that a one-inch line is my sewer
pipe, how confident are they? And actually he also told me I pointed out that my sewer pipe was I had a second vent which I do up
directly by the house. So they they opened that and found out that his camera was in my house. It wasn't it wasn't at this right angle degree that he's telling me. So he said he had to redo all of the measurements again. My
problem is this needs to be resolved. I'm retired now. I I'm relying I don't have a a source income and I can't keep doing unnecessary expenses. Like this problem
has existed since I've been there and I would I would like to see it fixed. I like Glustester Township. I I like where I live. My son is a teacher at Pilot, but this is this is too much now. I I
can't be cleaning that up all the time. So, I I would like some cont some report. I was told I'd get a report and and a continued investigation if it's if it's not if they're going to tell me that it's still my my sewer line.
And I guess that's it. Um I did want to ask who's Mr. Nash? Are are you related to Jeffrey? >> No. >> I worked with Jeffrey Conor. >> No. No relation. >> All right. Thank you for your time.
>> Thank you very much. >> Yes, sir. >> Well, I'm Joe Lombard. I live at 18 Oakland Drive. And some of the stuff I'm hearing now is is even new to me. this last occurrence, the water got to me. I live on the even side of the street and
I got water in my basement for the first time while these folks have always been getting it. And when I spoke to the guys in the street, we appreciated the last time we were here uh two work days later, the truck showed up, guys had the cameras and all that. So, that's a good
response. I think a better response would be to maybe a call back because when we talk to those guys in the street, we're hearing them tell us things. this is supposed to be here and it's not and as they were describing it's it's sewing
more doubt uh to all of us out there as to what's going on and I think a close look at least with an explanation can have everybody understand what what we're facing. So that's all I have. >> Okay. Thank you Mr. Ch. >> Thanks
>> Mr. Burns. Good evening, council. Brian Burns, Sawwood Drive. >> Good evening. >> Um, I have two topics um this evening I'd like to go over and one of them uh I have a related handout I'd like to distribute to you folks. >> Okay.
>> Thanks, Mr. Ash. All right. So, I I haven't been here for probably six or seven weeks. I've been enjoying retirement. Um the last time I was here, I made a suggestion with regard to um on the township website
having a link to Green Acres and everyone seemed to support that idea. Um, as of today, to my knowledge, I perused the the website pretty thoroughly and did not see a link. So, I guess my first question is, um, does the
town council still support that link? Um, and if so, when might it be posted so that residents who have properties or are interested in learning about how Green Acres works could potentially apply through that website to the appropriate personnel within the
township. and uh it would create a clear path to how Green Acres works and possible acquisitions of persons properties who perhaps would like to preserve their properties like some have done already in the past. So the question is do you still support that
and when may a link um be up and and functional? That's question one. Question two, are there any current open space green acre acquisitions in the pipeline, so to speak, being worked on?
Um, if so, where what are those locations? I'm sure you don't have block and lot numbers, but, you know, a general location would be nice if that is, you know, something that's currently happening. Uh, and the last subject is
the freeway golf course, which I just gave you a handout on. Um, I'm sure you are all aware that the proposal for 743 residential units is going to come before the zoning board. The property is
currently zoned one house per acre. Now, we have a historic and scenic preservation committee within the township, and I don't know how anyone can say this is not a historic site. is the first
blackowned golf course, not in the county, not in the state, in all of North America. And to me, that is very significant. And I think we'd be doing a big disservice to our community if we don't
recognize the cultural and historic significance of this property as opposed to paving it over with 743 residential units. So other than Mr. Ricardo, who usually speaks for the council, I would really appreciate because this is this
is on tape if each council member would comment as to whether or not we are doing the right thing by not recognizing the historic and cultural significance of this property. To me, it's really important. Think
about what it was like back in 1967, what the country was like. And these four gentlemen, all intelligent, successful business people, got together and opened this up. They had a Sammy Davis Jr. tournament there.
At the time, you know, a lot of black people were not admitted to white golf courses. It was, you know, it wasn't a good time in this country. And yet, these four individuals got together and opened this up. And now there is a proposal to pave this thing over like it
never existed. To me, that's not something Goster Township should be doing. You should not be proud of it. And you know, we are heading up a lot of people who are going to be fighting this at the zoning board. I'm sure you folks
know it. You follow social media. And just like the warehouses, the residents don't want this. You want to put one house per acre, that's what the master plan allows. Not much we can do about it. But to have variances where you're going
to pave this thing over five times the number of homes that the master plan currently permits. Five times. So if anyone council members please don't let Mr. Piccata speak for you. This is an important issue. Speak up for
yourselves. Let the people who are watching this and can go back and watch it know what you think. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Mr. Burns. Is there anyone else that has not spoken or like to speak? We'll close the public
portion. U Thank you, Miss Schmidt, for coming out and uh giving us an update on the markings. Uh we did receive uh a memo from uh the director of the sewer util excuse me sewer uh department uh an
update on that was provided to the business administrator myself and the mayor and I I believe they're going to continue working on that matter. Uh thank you Mr. Bino Brian um for uh providing your comments regarding that
line may possibly be put in backwards. Um Miss Bernardet uh the sewer line and uh with that you've replaced your line twice
uh the Clorox hot water. Um yeah. Okay. Um but and then Mr. Joe, that you've you received water in your basement for the first time. This was recently. This this first time >> same day that happened.
>> Okay. Okay. All right. >> Mr. Carter, >> February 18th. >> Okay. February 18th. Mr. Cars is our business administrator and all the directors report to Mr. Cars. Is it And then and and our township
solicitor. Is this something we can continue to monitor, continue to have conversations with um the director, Mascara, uh and also have them come out and take a look at the other properties that are here. Um Mr. Joe's had water in
his basement for the first time uh this year. And then we have Miss Vernon dealing with this since 1973 and Miss Schmidt who has dealt with this. Um >> yes, >> and tell us where we go from here. We're not engineers here. Uh we're not uh but
so we have to rely on our professionals that work for us in the in the sewer department. Uh and Mr. Cars, if you can give us an update, I would appreciate it. >> Sure. Okay. So, could I just say that since I have had not really had any word that it was continuing except seeing the
trucks in the street, I I just wondered why I'm not being informed that Oh, but I but Miss Gabriella told me that this has to go through the legal department also, which I did not know. She said,
"Why didn't I call the legal department?" Well, I didn't know I was to call the legal department. >> So, we can't go back and forth, but I do want to say this. Um, I believe there, Mr. Hutchinson, I think the reason why Miss Mascara stated that to you was,
>> well, apparently a tort claim notice was provided to you, Miss Schmidt, and you had filed that and that's been passed by the legal department to the insurance carrier. I see. So, it would be probably inappropriate for uh the legislative
body to interact on the topic. Just know this that it has been submitted to the insurance carrier and while it's being reviewed, I can tell you that the township is taking whatever steps possible to alleviate your concerns. We
and I don't want to speak for the business administrator >> uh or council president um but you should see a presence there and we will be responsive to your requests. >> Thank you so much. >> Uh Mr. Burns uh came up and and
discussed a link for Green Acres that he suggested uh I mean a few months ago and Mr. Cartis did follow up uh with that. Do you recall Mr. artist >> possibly having a link on our website. >> Spoke with the mayor about it and
>> but you also believe spoke to the state. >> Yeah. The bottom line is that you have direct access to Green Acres. I mean, all you have to do is Google and it's going to come right up. It's they they will handle direct questions from the
public from any member of the public. But I guess what he was indicating that if this was readily available on the township's website that people could reach out and see if they showed any uh interest in selling their property. I thought there was something else. I I'm
probably catching you off guard, but I know we spoke when >> I apologize. I >> You know what? Maybe we'll recall we'll we'll reach out to you, but I know that you and I had a conversation that on the state level there was a concern about doing that. I don't recall. >> We'll check your notes. Okay. All right.
Um, open space in the pipeline. Anything that >> I do want to point out though, you were just recently notified that we received and this is all grant money. uh no no loan uh no paybacks. 1,325,000
for the playground structure and a gazebo out at Gloucester Township Community Park uh located right adjacent to the concession stand by the Highland Youth uh soccer and the and the uh Stallions football turf fields. Uh we
also got an additional 205,000 for 1550 H IDER Lane. So I mean there are things happening with Green Acres. So that's quite a bit of money. 1,325,000. >> Um I know our planner is not here, but anything that open space that uh that
you're aware of? >> No, not right now. I don't know of anything. >> Mr. Hson, >> uh Mr. Burns, I'll provide you with that information either tomorrow or the following day. Is that okay? >> Yeah, sure. Thank you. Okay. And lastly, the golf course. And Mr. Burns expressed his interest. Uh, Mr. Burns, all members
of council can speak. No, no one is is censored in speaking. I, as council president, I lead the meeting and any council member can speak on any topic. Um, personally, I understand the historical significance of of that property. This property was sold. A
private owner purchased it. uh this private owner is moving forward with an application that goes into in front of the zoning board. As council, uh we have to be very care careful about commenting on this because this is going to the zoning board and they're requesting
variances for it. uh we don't want to muddy the waters uh and and make any comments for or against this application, but I do understand this the historical significance of of that property uh and the meaning
the meaningfulness it had uh to the folks that were in that community that participated and were part of that uh project. Anyone else would like to comment on it and uh feel free. Anyone? >> Well said. Okay. All right. Polling of directors.
>> Mr. Hutcherson, >> nothing. Thank you for coming. >> Mr. Cartis, >> nothing at this time. >> Deputy Chief Stoimer. >> Mr. McIll, >> nothing to add. Thank you. >> Mrs. Albreight Troxel. I hope everybody had a good happy Father's Day. I hope
you got a lot of hugs and kisses from your family that they showed you how much they appreciate all you do for them. Uh, and for the women, I hope you got it last Mother's Day. Thank you all. I appreciate all your comments and uh I speak for myself. Mr.
Orlando does not speak for me and I I just feel that it's really important when we're up here that we speak our minds and what we feel. And as far as I'm concerned, I really appreciate your problem. Uh and it's a shame that it had to go on that long. It is really a shame
that it had to go on that long. and hopefully uh we can get some kind of resolution that everyone will not be swimming in water. Thank you, Mr. Burns. Thank you for your comments. I've played that golf course many a time. Mr. Sil,
>> Mr. Nash, >> thanks for coming out. >> Mrs. Walters, >> uh thank you everybody for coming out and bringing your um issues to us to help us so that we can help you. And thank you, Mr. Burns, for bringing that to our attention. >> Have a good night, >> Mr. Castro.
Thank you for everyone that came out during this uh bad rainstorm. Appreciate you taking the time to your safety to come out here to bring your concerns to us. Um Mr. Burns, I myself have been to the Freeway golf course prior to it closing. Um and
unfortunately seeing how debilitating it became because of lack of membership made it hard. you know, when they closed, it was it was tough. You know, it was a place where a couple of us used to meet up there just to go fellowship and uh I do know the
significance of that freeway golf course. And thank you for just making everyone else aware and taking the time to do the research. With that being said, thank you everyone for the Junth event that we had on Saturday. Uh went off with a success. Thank you for the
help from the police department, um the DPW workers, the other city employees, everyone that had a hand in it. Uh they did an amazing job. Uh Carolyn did an also amazing job. We the performers, it was it was definitely something that I hope
that more town more people from the township come out and take an opportunity to learn and just enjoy and fellowship with each other. That being said, thank you so much and see you next meeting. >> Mr. Makata, >> I want to thank everyone for coming out this evening. Uh, and also thank uh, the
committee uh, the mayor's office that worked on the Junth program. Siri was doing his best Steve Harvey impersonation co-hosting with uh, Councilwoman Grace Love. Uh, and and thank you for uh, the mayor's office and
all those involved for putting that event uh, larger than last year. Uh there are folks that were enjoying their time. There was a beautiful day for it. Uh and thank you for our police department and public works for keeping
us safe and keeping the place clean and u the mayor's office for coordinating that. So I appreciate that. Congratulations to all the graduates uh middle school and high school throughout our I love seeing the graduation p. That's the social media stuff. I enjoy
seeing those things and and seeing kids grow up and then are taller than you and they're going on to go to college or start their career or serve our country. So, I I appreciate uh uh their hard work and commend them and uh just seeing
those things. It's it's a wonderful time during the during the year when you see those pictures posted. Uh every Monday uh or maybe every other Monday, there are concerts in the park here in Veterans Park. Tonight was supposed to be a concert and that was postponed due
to the weather. Uh but next week there will be a concert. Those concerts are free. They start at 7 o'clock and they usually run to around 8:30. So if you have an opportunity, please come out. Uh for those who are watching or those who are here watching from home, uh please attend those concert. Those are are our uh programs that are put on uh
coordinated through Main Stage and uh the administration here in Gloucester Township. So please uh if you can enjoy those concerts and please attend. With that I entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion. >> Is there a second? All those in favor? Hi.
>> Have a great evening everyone.