she they got [Music] her and just but I actually I think [Music] thank you leave your speaker again you
got your speaker right [Music] affiliate oh okay and then her husband Wasing [Music] Grand yeah the other one iook dinner for
everybody yesterday everything was in school she's a brave girl she's [Music] this last one is just like such a so hopefully [Music]
oh yeah so you like that better [Music] [Music] not the other love the look sign okay give back to
you [Music] [Music] good evening please rise for the the Pledge of Allegiance Pledge alance to the flag the United States of America and to the repic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liy and [Music] Justice good evening this regular meeting of the township council is being held in accordance with the schedule of the meetings of the township Council established and adopted by the township Council which schedule designate the
time and date and place of this meeting adequate public notice of this meeting has been provided pursu to the provisions of the open public meetings act we are using electronic amplifying and recording device in order to obtain a clear and audible record and we request all those that wishing to speak be recognized and state your name
address directly to the microphone the recording advice will be still utilized by the township clerk's office for the preparation M and shall be the official record of the township council meeting Madam clerk May the roll call please Mr he is ill Mrs Al Troxel here Mrs Grace
love here Mr Nash he is running late but he will be here Mrs Walters here Mrs wers here Mr marato pres Mr kir here Mr ctis here Chief arkins here Mr Mel here good evening
everyone this evening we celebrate women's History Month by identifying and celebrating 10 women who make a difference in gler town uh there's a proclamation I'd like to start off with and then we'll go to our first honor whereas the township of Gloucester
takes pride in recognizing March 2025 as women's History Month celebrating women of every race class and ethnic background and their historic contributions to the growth and strength of our nation is countless recorded and recorded in unrecorded ways and whereas National Women's history week was first
introduced to the nation in a message from President Carter designating March 2nd through the 8th of 19 1980 as such and asking Americans to recognize this week with appropriate activities and whereas by 1986 14 States had declared March as women's history month and their
state-by-state action was used as a rationale to Lobby Congress to declare the entire month of March 1987 as National Women's history month and in 1987 Congress declared the month of March as National Women's History Month in perpetuity and whereas we recognize
this year's theme of moving forward together women educating and inspiring Generations as declared by a national women's history Alliance which spearheaded the movement from March being declared National Women's history month and whereas this year's theme celebrates the Collective Strength and
influence of women who have dedicated their lives to Education mentorship and Leadership and through their efforts have served as an inspiration for all generations past and present and whereas the process of information sharing has been a powerful Catalyst for change
where an open example examination of new insights can create a framework for collaboration in which turn promotes the well-being of groups businesses communities and society as a whole whereas women Educators and leaders have
played a pivotal role in nurturing minds and inspiring transformative action from classrooms to boardrooms from grassroot movements to Global initiatives and whereas in 2025 we honor the women who have made contributions to the American educational system the free Marketplace
of ideas is and the Very fabric of our democracy democracy therefore being resolve that David mayor mayor of T glosser and irand Marcato president of council Township of Gloucester to hereby proclaim the month of March 25th as women's 2025 as women's history month
and encourage our community to celebrate the various contributions of women who have dedicated their lives to education mentorship leadership shaping the minds and futures of all generations sted March 24th 2025 we will now have our first
honoring councilwoman Grace good good evening everyone um the first Honore is Kelly McKenzie she could not be here today but she's represented here by her daughter and
husband whoever would like to come up um Miss Mckenzie was nominated by Aubrey arms um roer I believe okay great I'm going to read a little bit of what Mrs Brewster um had written about your
mom and wife um and she reports that we here at Timber Creek Regional High School they are very lucky enough to call Mrs McKenzie their principal and leader some of us are lucky to also call
her friend um Miss McKenzie truly cares about the student staff and the community for where she's in she's she starts each day with a feel-good music a positive um morning announcements and is
always smiling and laughing you can hear her laughter a mile away she has this amazing ability to connect with students on all educational levels in ethnic diversities and is an inspiration to
many as a strong black woman in a positive position of power we feed off her positive positivity and look forward to her creative ideas and constant plans and goals to make the the creek even a
better uh place for everyone she attends almost every sporting event and banquet most of our plays and shows and expresses her Charter Pride off hours as well most of her wardrobe consists of navy
blue and silver uh all the way down to her sparkling shoes silver shoes she lives in town and she has four children but I only see three okay um um for kids of her own
that will each one day be a charger it's always because of that that she really is fully invested in making the school the best it can be everyone knows who she is and what she stands for and most
importantly know that the children are in good hands with her leader with her leading the way Miss McKenzie exemplifies what it means to be an exceptional leader and goes Way Beyond the responsibilities of an educator by
truly and genuinely supporting and full of fulfilling the needs of everyone around her she is always available answers every phone call even off hours her door is always open she drops
whatever she she is doing at any moment it makes everyone um she around her feels that they have her full attention she is every student and staff's biggest cheerleader and and will do whatever it
takes to ensure all of our successes individually and as one large charger family she is the most deserving of a great honor she is a phenomenal woman I would like I was going to read that P
for on behalf of David mayor in Council we' like to recognize her by giving her this plaque it says women who make a difference presented to Kelly McKenzie in recognition of her exemplary leadership outstanding service and dedication to the people and Township
Gloucester give that to you also have a few citations to give one from the freeholders cam County Board of Commissioners this is for your I'll give this one to you I like to kind of one to
you and then we have we might have two more three more we also have one from the US House of Representative um recognizing her for a woman who makes a difference and I'll hold the other one and this one is from the state of New Jersey and the Senate and generally
assemble Citation for for Mom Mom for making for um accommodation and praise of her U extended to her for being a great woman that make a [Applause] difference um Mr mck you're gonna say a few words you guys since it's women
history's month I'm have my two daughters hello everybody um um as you can see I'm not my mom she's um she's in Disney World right now chaperoning a field trip and um I'm Macy and I'm from
Wen and my sister's over here she's from um she's from Timber Creek and my mom left this morning and to present and um me and my sister are here
to accept this award on her behalf [Music] um oh she laid out my clothes and planned for and planned um and plann for help with dinner and
not only and told us not to argue with each other with our dad in public but we love her very much and we are happy that other people noticed her contribution my mom wrote an acceptance speech and I'd like to introduce my
sister to read it these are my mom's words and I'm honored to narrate them my story of Womanhood is adventurous and amazing I grew up in brisan with my mom my dad and my sister my mom was a teacher and my dad was an electrician who served on the
board of education through their personal actions and investment my sister and I learned early on that giving back to your community was a responsibility and a privilege I was raised with Grandmom's
aunts and cousins who were remarkable loud and very supportive in college as a member of Delta siga sorority Incorporated I learned about Sisterhood and service
these experiences collectively birthed my drive introduced me to leadership and gave me girl power being a woman meant offering support not just lending a helping hand but offering a high five this season was called growth so I have
four kids a husband and a dog you met Marley and Macy and my oh and Miley and Marcus are students at James W Lily elementary school together Darnell and I created a legacy of Love chaos but we call it love we teach them to be
confident exercise their voice and eat vegetables we teach them to be confident oh my bad they are involved in Timber Creek Athletics GT lacrosse Ariel Little leag
GT field hockey Timber Creek Junior wrestling and Girl Scouts our whole lives are within a five mile radius and within this radius we have built a life of communal responsibility engagement and friendship
while it is true I spent hours and hours in charger County I am to the Secretary of the homman School Association at Anna Mullen middle school and I volunteer with Miley's Girl Scout truth in GT being able to raise Three Little Women and Inspire their path to
Greatness is immense and inspiring and incredible but this season is called tired mama most recently being a woman took me to an imperfect place my cancer risk became increasingly High over the last two years and I made a very important
decision to prevent something that felt inevitable and I underwent a profilic bilateral myectomy in December the recovery was hard but there was but here's some perspective I truly believe
there is a reason God gifted me with this for s and now I'm going to spend the rest of my life letting him guide my steps while I become who I am supposed to be this year I am grateful to be cancer free and I hope my Act of prevention can help
someone or someone or people be brave enough to make bold decisions themselves this season is called freedom I cannot say this enough I love my job I love my students and I love my staff it's not a job it's a calling I wake up every day
destined to make a difference the networks I've created with the mayor's office the GT Police Department local businesses and neighboring schools are vast and our Partnerships are power when I grow when I grew up I always thought it was a headache to live
where you worked my mom couldn't go to Wawa without someone saying hi to Mrs hands and I thought and I thought who would want oh my bad and who thought that the one thing that was so bother could give me so much joy supporting the
people I live with and work with is my Jesus job and to receive acknowledgement for my efforts in the community is pretty fantastic because I love what I do and I love living here this season is called contentment and through all seasons
having a squad is important and I'd like to recognize my Village it goes a lot it takes a lot of Jesus coffee and car pools to make my world go around my family and my friends meant a lot to me and I'm thankful for all of them I
especially want to acknowledge my husband and my kids for Lending half of for Lending half of me to the other place I call home in charger County I don't achieve great things alone and I'd like to thank my Timber Creek and Black Horse Pike Regional School District family for supporting my vision
embracing my leadership and believing in one person's ability to change the life of a child I am humbled and honored to be selected in the same place I most often nominate others women's history month is a celebration of strength
sacrifice service and swag being a woman is complicated and courageous and super cool it is a superpower Audrey Lord affirms when we dare to be powerful to use our strength
in our in our service of vision then it becomes less and less important whether you are afraid thank you for making a place thank you for making a Space to honor us through every season here's to strong women may we be them know them and may
we raise them thank you [Music] hello everybody I would like to um call up Terry fretz so when I was reading um over T's nomination um by Maryann Johnson I was like wow she before I even spoke with her I was like she is a guardian angel
um there was Maryann had mentioned and when I was talking to Terry about this she at one point in her community there was a gentleman a mentally disabled man and he was going to about to lose his house um he had no family that had passed on so she ried um her neighbors
friends family and um she set up a good fund me so with that she raised over $75,000 to help support this gentleman um which um he was able to stay um in his home and they were able to make
repairs for that so just right there and then shows how much of a big heart that she has um and he was the person that she needed at the time and she was able to do this she didn't have she didn't know where to start she didn't have any resources right at her fingertips at that time but she found out where to go
what to do and she went for it and she did it um and he's still living there she still helps provide meals for the for the um gentleman um and he appreciates it um she's also a huge advocate for the cat rescue groups again
she wasn't um sure where to start but there were there was a problem in the neighborhood where there was just um cats um so she helped to save them bring them to the shelter so that they would be able to be loved and bring to um
other families to be loved so um what became a nuisance maybe in one neighborhood became a loving family pet so thanks to Terry for doing that and making it in the community um she one point would I say she made over 75 she
saved over 75 cats um at one point so when people people still reach out to her to help for resources to help the situation um and she also on her own has provided own medical um and food for them so that they can be spited and
neutered um and then she helps her find their forever home as well um when she's not helping people and the community or people and Cat and animals she you might find her at the Board of Education meetings um she has grandchildren going through the school
district so she's an advocate for them she'll go answer questions um see what's going on um so not only does she go to the board meetings ask these questions she also volunteers at some of the schools um mostly Lewis um she'll help with some of their Book Fairs and she's
just a part of it um she just loves to be involved with it in the community and with the kids so she's got her hands all different pocket so I give it to you um she's also in all of her grandchildren when I had mentioned I know some of her children and then her grandchildren you could just tell on the
other side of the phone how she was just so proud of them how she just lit up um about them and she she it's very envious to see that um and I know her children that I know um they're great there are wonderful people in the community as well um so kudos for raising such
wonderful children and grandchildren um you can see how Maryann Johnson said how big her heart is and you can see from these just these examples how it is and how she's just a true inspiration to the community and for others um just to see the work that
she does and just to Inspire others and to give back so um from mayor and Council we present you okay sorry and from United State uh congress not
Norcross we me to make a difference and from Candy County legislator for [Music] Dan hudon and Cody Miller and would you like to say anything ter um I would like to say uh
thank you to uh gluster Township for enacting the TNR program for fural cats um I think in all of our different communities throughout ler Township um I've read and I've met people that find the cats to be a nuisance and uh in my
neighborhood we had initially when I started doing this about six years ago we had 25 cats and everybody kept saying you have to somebody has to do something so that's how I got involved with the cats and uh at first wasn't welcomed but
now everybody in my community is happy because while at one time we had 35 of them um now we have two uh so I have found homes for all of those kittens and those cats and uh I've L doing it and it's a first experience I've ever had
with them I'd like to thank my husband for putting up with me doing all these things for cats and for financially taking care of all the bills that I am mased and all the food that they eat uh uh he wasn't a fond of
cats at first but now he's a cat lover too I also want to mention my son who when I told him I was getting a an award he said um for being a crap crazy cat lady and I said yes uh that's why I'm
being honored and um all of my family for supporting me because they' had to listen to five years all kinds of stories about all different cats and the most important thing is I want to thank the township because not all townships have the TNR program and they're overrun
with taxs uh and I also want people to understand this program works so if any of you have any interest at all saving one cat just one cat is actually saving about 27 or 28 because that's how many kittens one cat can have in a year sign
uh so I want to thank Council because they approved the TNR program and I want people to understand it really works thank you just to the beautiful and wonderful cat lady I have cats all over my property
and because of you you I just watch them roam around I love them I have greater respect for them just let them go um I want to welcome up Miss Chelsea Shiloh is she here today I didn't get a chance to talk to
her okay um but I'm gonna read go ahead and read the bio and then um I'll give her a call again um Mrs Chelsea Shiloh was nominated by
Mr Eric Butler is Mr Eric Butler here okay okay well Mr Eric Butler has stated that it is an absolute pre pleasure to recognize CH Chelsea Shiloh for woman history mon her unwavering
leadership exemplary character and integrity contributes greatly to the glosser Township community as an educator she is committed to the success of her students going beyond the classroom to ensure their academic and
personal growth she tirelessly tutor students who need extra support demonstrating her belief that every child deserves an opportunity to succeed Beyond her role as an educator Miss Shiloh embodies the essence of service
and mentorship as the Director of the National Junior Honor Society she Fosters leadership and and scholarships among Young Learners her dedication extends to the greater gler Township community where
she leads The Giving Tree initiative providing gifts and supports to families and need during the holiday season she is also an advocate for young women mentoring them to build self-esteem and
confidence ensuring they see their own value and potential additionally Mrs Shiloh is a devoted literacy Advocate participating in local book clubs that promotes the love of reading among women in the community her
selfless acts of kindness and commitment to education has made a lasting impact not only on her students but also on her peers in the broader Community for those
reasons Mr John I'm sorry Eric has wholeheartedly recommended Miss Shiloh as a model of leadership Integrity self uh selfless character last her contribution enrich the lives and inspir
those around her so let's give a warm um congratulations good evening everybody I'd like to bring up Sheldon Shel Shelton Bartlett Rumer did I say it right was looking for pink I know I know
I know was a wardrobe change last minute um okay so she's been nominated by her sister-in-law Desiree her friend Alex and her mom a uh so I have three different things I had to kind of pull everything together from other than our conversation um so I might jump around a
little bit but that's okay uh so she grew up in Galloway and then she settled into this area about 14 years ago and we know it was dang that's brown when her daughter was born and we talked about how you remember things based on other things you know I said how my mom knew which daughter it was in a picture
because of the furniture you know so not by the child um so she's joined today by her husband husband her two kids um and I'm guessing your mom and your sister um and they're all here tonight to support her we spoke today and I can
tell you that in our discussion you could feel the positivity coming from her and she said you'll know I'm there you know because you can kind of feel me before you even even see me or know that I'm here um and her business is to empower women um fostering Community
connections and drive Economic Development so that's all positive things so so it seems to me I don't really know her that well but it seems like she has picked the right path um her background is in media marketing and brand development and she's dedicated her career to elevate and Empower uh
she's opening a network studio called This is it um and it's going to be at the Forum in Blackwood right down on the Pike um so it'll be Digital streaming platform Focus focused on empowering women by providing a space for diverse
female voices and stories um and she's going to be doing live filming there with live audiences so I said she's going back old school you know having all these people present at the time uh she's an associate professor of digital marketing and branding for Drexel and
Temple and she's wrote a book called scream your dream and it's 66 lessons to build your personal brand and she's dedicated to lift those around her so some of the things um that people have said about her in these letters I'm just going to read a little bit from
different things um so this one is uh from her friend Alex and they said she's someone whose orbit you want to be in at all times her positivity realness humor and genuine love for all is insurmountable she gives the absolute
best hugs and always makes me laugh no matter what mood I'm in she is a true inspiration to me and watching her grow personally and professionally has been such an honor uh this one is from her
sister-in-law uh it's not uncommon for there to be a gap of understanding between families and and about what we do in our professional lives versus our family time however for some reason their PE their work and their professional Mission are so in intr
intrinsically linked that their career becomes an extension of who they are she's the perfect example of this especially in the way she uplifts and supports particularly women uh I remember an early conversation with her where she shared that women whisper their wishes when they should be
screaming their dreams I enjoyed that sense um explains she explained that she wanted us she wanted to use her rich professional experiences to build a business could Empower others through leadership and brand management uh she said she she looks
forward to um Mama Rumor for advice so everybody apparently runs for their advice for her advice um and this one is I'm guessing from her mom because this my last one there's no name at the bottom um so
she's committed to scream your dream Mission her aim is to create a safe place for visitors and Community to network actively as they learn new skills develop beneficial relationships and enhance the Region's Economic Development it is for all to watch
listen interact learn connect so so one will be able to craft his or her message and tell his or her story by making the world a better place um and then this was kind of interesting they sent over um six
different comments from people and it's what different people are saying about her so I thought it was kind of interesting to pull in uh different people's comments it's a little long so I'll just read like one or two um she puts her guest at ease from the moment they walk into her Studio she sets a hum
huge warm smile and chats for a moment to make sure everyone is comfortable and ready for go live she's helped me with not only marketing but more importantly branding anyone can keep their small business aoat but learn how to build is essentially is essential and teaming up
with chelton is a smart business so there's other comments here I'm going to give her this because I don't know if she got to see any of this so you might want to read this um so I want you to see that so I have the same things here so I have the Flack I have something from Donald Norcross and assembly marori
or senator marotti assemblyman thank you so much hello everyone thank you so much for your time I appreciate it this has been a little bit of a journey uh post pandemic and I like to say
BQ before quarantine we were in this space in Philadelphia Pennsylvania so I drove over the bridge every single day to interview one to five people per day for our digital series and ever since and post um quarantine I was committed to making sure that I didn't have to go back over the bridge and trying to find
a space and a home here in South Jersey I grew up in Atlantic County before settling nearby and it was always for those just age myself if you remember channel 40 if you remember SNJ today there was local television within this
Market within this region and though I traveled the country telling stories and I've interviewed countless people attended countless events it was really important for me to bring media and television home so the stories that are happening here is something that we can deliver on a regular basis I grew up on
old school talk shows Don Hugh Sally you know you know you know Don Hugh Sally um Ricky Lake and of course Oprah wirey and the goal is to bring that energy to the Blackwood West District and thanks to Roco galelli and the Innovative catering
Concepts and the Forum Event Center for providing us with a home we'll begin broadcasting live as of the end of next month so if any of you have a story to tell or would like to join me on stage please let me know thank you so much for this honor or appreciate
[Applause] it me again uh so now I have the honor of recognizing Regina [Applause] cisto uh so Regina has been a longtime resident of Gloucester Township she was
nominated by the mayor and her co-workers uh for women who make a difference she had and her close friends um she's had many many countless residents and professional acquaintances during her time here in the township
currently well not currently as of the beginning of the month until the beginning of the month she served as director of Communications in the mayor's office from 2016 until the beginning of this month uh cultivating and and defining the role and settling the high perform high performance standards that they that they've all
been accustomed to uh she originated and developed the active and impressive social media presence for the township of Bluster her Creative Design and impeccable attention to detail provided an Dependable information stream for the township residents for upcoming events activities programs and
services uh the largest event that she's worked on here in Gloucester Township has been the metal ceremony back in October a beautiful and momentous event where veterans across the township were honored for The Bravery sacrifice and dedication she worked countless hours behind the scenes partnered with various
professionals and co-workers to create a smooth and memor memorable event for everyone to enjoy she's also served as the neighborhood president reservation program coordinated leading the drive to revitalize downtown Blackwood uh working on the the facade program the home grant
program and the mural program her leadership through her leadership Harwin Park was reimagined to create an inviting and functional space for Township events and residents and now the permanent home of the Veterans Memorial locate Memorial relocated from the intersection of Black Horse Pike in
Church Street where it was previously uh but you couldn't really see it because of the landscape and it was an obstructed view so she had that moved she was part of the committee to have that moved over to where it can be viewed and enjoyed um she's also served on the
neighborhood preservation program uh working with the um blackbox theater trying to you know bring that to fruition um some of the things that her her co-workers have said about her she's a pleasure to work with she's gone above
and beyond anything that was ever expected of her her work work ethic creativity glowing personality and contagious laughter is unmatched and will be greatly missed here while accomplishing all that it was just shared with you she's enrolled and put
herself through school to obtain the necessary prerequisites to apply for a nursing school and she did it with flying colors so she just completed all her prerequisites and she's starting in two weeks yeah a week um to do the
accelerated nursing program at Drexel um so it's an 11-month program so I went through nursing school I can tell you doing that in 11 months I did it with all the other classes but it'll still be intense but it'll be well worth it um so she did all that she's uh starting the
program and they said her absence will be truly felt here but know that Regina Regina will make a huge impact and difference in the lives of those she will help in her new adventure she's truly a woman who makes a difference and will continue making a difference in the years to come in the lives of all she
will encounter she will be greatly missed and would they wish her nothing but love and support uh so in in talking to Regina I learned that uh so she's on her fourth on two three four fifth degree this this Venture will be her
fifth degree so she has a degree in linguistics business marketing and an MBA so I don't know I'm exhausted just thinking about that and to add nursing to it as a nurse I can tell you it's a rewarding field and
in speaking to you and the way you feel and how excited you are to go into it I think you will enjoy it and nursing will be lucky to have you and I present you with all the awards not going to S everybody through it again
[Applause] just want to thank you everybody for coming out here tonight to celebrate wonderful women here in G the township i' would like to thank the council the mayor and uh obviously my wonderful co-workers for nominating
me I will cherish the memories that I've created working here for so many years and um I'm going to miss my GT family I love you guys [Applause] hello everybody sorry for being late all right um today as we celebrate
women's history month we are proud to recognize an extraordinary woman who is the epitome of of women that make a difference Denise coin please join me just me we spoke a lot
today um Denise currently is an active member of the Pine Hill Rotary Club where her contributions go beyond just attending meetings her involvement in uh also she's greatly involved with local government and it speaks her commitment of creating meaning meaningful change
and always having an eye towards the better betterment of those around her whether advocating for important policies or working behind the scenes Denise's knowledge and expertise in local government have proven invaluable but it's not just her
intellect that stands out it's her determination you may have seen her on many Council meetings and her unyielding Spirit Denise tackles challenges headon and she never backs down for a fight I would want to get between her and anyone
um uh through her charity work she's touched countless lives always giving I'm gonna tell a story about one in a minute always giving without expecting anything in return Denise is a role model for all of us all of us embodying the power of service leadership and
compassion Denise thank you for all you do your hard work is greatly appreciated now uh Denise was was nominated uh from uh Terry fretz who was also an award winner tonight so congratulations but I would like to read some of the stuff that Terry wrote because one of them touched home for me
because she helped somebody that I knew so I would like to nominate Denise coin for women who make a difference Denise has a has been a resident of GT for 47 years she has been a member of the golf sship Pine pin hill rotary club for five years serving as the foundation board secretary and sergeant of
arms Denise has volunteered countless of her time skill and financial help to all the fundra fundraisers they hold you will see your outside shop right collecting food food donations for families in need in GT she also which I just found this out today handles all the pantry boxes at Highland and Triton
high schools and by the senior center on hter Lane so those boxes that are they put food in for the needing well doesn't just magically appear and it goes fast faster than I ever thought it would uh she donates her time to ordering picking up the food and
regularly filling the boxes the food goes fast but she is determined to see that those boxes remain full in addition to her volunteer work she never declines a request from others for help several years ago uh when I first met Denise at a Schoolboard
meeting I asked her to help organize a fundraiser to help a mentally disabled man in my neighborhood my buddy Lamar and um he uh his his parents passed away and and uh he we wanted to keep him in his house and it seemed
impossible until Denise got involved so he still lives there today still has a job he goes to church every Sunday and he's an active you go down Cherry Circle any time the any time of the week you'll see Lamar walking around and it's thanks to
Denise and S thank you very much I'm a horrible public speaker so I wrote something to spare you guys um I wasn't planning on standing up here tonight not because I don't appreciate recognition but um I Dre do
truly appreciate this but I don't think what I do is special or award-worthy I think of it as necessary it's simply part of Being Human we all have choices in life some people choose to look inward on their own families their jobs
and their struggles and that's understandable life is hard I get but then there are others who look up look around and realize the world is bigger than just them people who recognize that their voice their time and their effort however small can
create powerful change because change doesn't just happen we make it happen I spent 47 years in this Township it's my home and when something is your home you don't wait for somebody else to fix it you take respons responsibility and
that's why I show up whether it's to fight for transparency and accountability in government support struggling families help seniors or make sure a man I didn't even know didn't lose his home the world doesn't get better through silence it's gets better
through people who are willing to stand up speak out and take action but more than anything it gets better when we pause pay attention and ask what can I do if you can't do a lot do a little because small acts add up and we're all
in this together Terry fretz my friend who nominated me for this award is responsible for getting me involved she told me about the man who was losing his home and together we saved it and Terry inspired me to become involved if you're
looking for a way to get involved the gler township rotary is accepting new members it's a great way to meet people in your community and our motto is service above self and it's a reminder that what we do for others is what truly matters in the end
we meet weekly usually on Wednesdays for lunch at the library and we'd love to see anybody that would like to stop in you can also attend Board of Education or Council meetings because you can't change what you don't understand and you can't fix what you don't know is broken
if you can't attend Council meetings you can watch Recaps on the cluster count Township Observer website it's an awesome resource for information to those who stand beside me in this work you know who you are I see you I
appreciate you and I thank you you're my friends and you're my strength what we do isn't easy but it's important and none of us do it alone we have each our own talents and together we're awesome we get it done no matter what it is and to my family thank you
for your love support and your patience for understanding the late nights the long meeting meetings the phone calls and all the time I spent away from home I couldn't do it without you I chose a quote that's always stayed with me the most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any
by Alice Walker you do have power it's in your voice your vote and your actions and what you choose to do with it matters thank you good evening again um I would like to C I would like to call up this remarkable young woman whose dedication and
compassion has made a significant positive impact on our community senior population cassid B humble um Cassidy is a resident of glester Township um she is a graduate of St Joe's High School in Hamington and she's pursuing her um career her degree in
health or human services at Rowan University um which which she would graduate in May but this isn't how things were planned for her originally she originally was going to school um to be a librarian and she did get an
associates degree for that but what inspired her was um a neighbor from her grandparents house and she realized that this person needed needed help um so she wanted to make a change and she saw because she saw what this person was going through um the help that they
needed so that one person gave her the inspiration to lead a different path um so with that that's when she changed her degree for Human Services um she became involved um during covid um she
volunteered at the senior center um where she currently works there part-time but during that time um she was like a safe haven for the uh the seniors she was there giving them lunches um provid giving a pivotal role to them to make sure that things continued on a daily basis for them that
their routine was not changed um and continue to maintain smooth operations with everything because we all know it was chaos um so this young lady um as young as she was she helped promote um to promote that
um her willingness to step up during crisis speaks volume about her character um since then she has she has transitioned to a part-time employee where she continues um not only helping the seniors but now she's hosting these events and making sure things run
smoothly um as she has stepped up into it because she knows the daily routine she knows the um the seniors there that go there so they feel comfortable with her and she just continues to serve them um she also volunteers um for gler
Township uh scholarship committee she gives her time um to help those other uh students in high schools for scholarships as well as the special parents and kids network of gluster Township um after graduation she does
want to um work with seniors that are NE neglected abused and have no family or support um and I can see from her from just talking to her warm heart and compassion she's a perfect person to do that I'm sure they enjoy um when she comes to the senior center and she just
gives it um they they probably look forward to they probably ask for her as when she's not in school or doing her internship so thank you for being a part of it um Debbie Carr had recognized her so thank you Debbie for supporting her and guiding her the way to help her
achieve her goal um we believe Cassie hel EMB bodles the qualities of an outstanding woman who makes a difference and wholeheartedly recommends for the consideration so thank you for all that you do and good luck for [Applause]
everything hi I'm I'm sorry I'm a little nervous um I want to thank um my my boss Debbie car for nominating me I want to thank the council and the mayor for this nomination it is a great
honor I want to thank all the nominees and congratulate them as well as for this award and I want to thank um the town of gla Township including my seniors working with them is a great joy and a great compassion of mind that I
still want to work towards when I graduate um with my grade from from row University um for my Human Services um Bachelors it's been a great time working with Debbie and working with my seniors
it's given me the education to learn from my seniors to help me through everything and to learn more for when I do go out and help more seniors and it's been a great education working with Debbie and being able
to um work with her and getting the education I need to go out into the job force that I'm going to be going to soon um thank you so much for this domination and um for your guys time
than good evening everyone evening it's so nice to see some Smiling Faces tonight with all these beautiful women that we're honoring and and it's such a nice event isn't it glad we can do it I have the pleasure
of honoring Mary May meei m come on down and Mary was submitted by her neighbor Andrea mcperson hi and who's this this is syvia oh this is little Sylvia and I'll
be talking about her too well Mary has two successful adult children she's a grandmother with a granddaughter and a doggy mom to four four four-legged
dogs Mary is the caretaker of of her family as you can tell when her mom got sick nine years ago she renovated her home to accommodate her mother's needs I think that's really important we care about our family we care about our parents and and when they're in need
sometimes it's time for us to take care of them and she did that I think that's wonderful when Co hit of course Mary would be seeing pushing her mother through the neighborhood in a wheelchair because she felt that her mother needed
adequate air and stimulation during this difficult time so this was given by a neighbor who got to see her a lot doing this uh it's nice when we see people helping others in our neighborhood makes us feel safe makes us feel comfortable and it makes us feel
good now when Mary's longtime friend Sylvia passed away she stepped up to become the surrogate of Sylvia's granddaughter who is also named Sylvia and here she is well Mary became an incal part of young
Sylvia's life she's dedicated to filling the immense void of her friend by taking her friend's granddaughter to and from school taking her to appointments taking her to see other children as
friends and wherever she needs to go she takes her that's the way it should be helping each other Mary and young Sylvia can also be playing in the backyard and the front yard and all around the
neighborhood so it's nice to know that Mary's there for her in all ways including acting like a child with a child to have fun that's really important because life is not just serious we need to have fun and
especially when we're little like this right right she's big yeah yeah huh she's six years old wow I'm impressed and you have pretty colors
on too and cool boots like the boots well Mary has a passion as you can tell for rescuing and fostering homeless dogs she volunteers for Angel rescue I don't know if you've ever heard of it but I never did either until I learned
about Mary and Mary transports Bab and opens her home to Foster dogs until they find their forever home well one dog couldn't find his forever home and
uh on she became the forever home for that dog it was a mixed breed that was cast off by a breeder when the dog's reproduction days were're done so now phbe is part of this family
now Mary listens to her phone she listens to the TV she listens to everything in case she can help you know that's the way some people are they just want to help others Mary got an SOS call on Easter weekend last
year 30 dogs were being transported in a transport when there was an accident and what do you do when there's 30 dogs in in a transport and a major accident they get the transport to Blackwood it
still has the dogs in it so what happens and it's pouring rain you got picture this do I sound like that older lady on The Golden Girls well picture this pouring rain 30 dogs in a in a in a van
and Mary comes she gets the SOS and she's there within minutes and she not only stays there but she stays there and even in the rain to help the so that they because they were panicked and she wanted to make sure that they wouldn't be panicked because the more
they Panic worse it gets as we know so she stayed with them she has a way about her she calmed them down she calmed them down until the other transport came so she is a major part of this group that
take care of of dogs she's an EMB to many and what it means to be a woman a woman of service not just a woman sitting back
watching TV or doing something she's a woman of service and she's a p especially those who have dogs I know about the dog Community knows about the
cats and her commitment to acts of assistance is an inspiration to all of us and we should all be thankful to Mary and little Sylvia for coming up you have everything everybody else got okay
okay I want to thank uh Dave mayor and the council for recognizing me with this award for women's History Month also like to spend special thank you to my friend Andre for nominating me for this award it
means the world to me I would also like to thank my family because I really them my husband Charlie my son Michael and his wife Jen my beautiful granddaughter oh they must
have taken her out she's not here Harper my daughter Marissa is not here she's working and of course Sylvia my friend best friend Flo and my other family Sylvia's mom and
dad for coming to support me tonight thank you all again I'll continue to strive to be the best person I can for my family my community and myself Andre and mcferson please come up [Music]
not Mary Mary get a there's a presentation this is the neighbor that nominated her picture I'm sorry we'll get that later okay black
and then here you hold that you hold that put this there to okay let me get this out right okay this you want to stand in the center put theer get theer thanks here you go thank you bye
siia good evening our next recipient is Ashley Richards [Applause] Ashley normally when people are nominated we try not to let them know who nominated them and the mayor's office is so
efficient they told Ashley who nominated her Ashley I nominated Ashley Richards uh and and I'll tell you about why uh she's an outstanding hore this evening but when she was first notified about this
she thought it was a scam so she contacted her detective husband okay and he goes no this is a thing you know they do honor people okay so you can you can call back the township about it uh there are a few adjectives that describe
Ashley uh that came from parents and colleagues spunky patient always there as a teacher a blessing that she provides great
dialogue between students staff and teachers parents a big smile when I was walking in she looked like the greeter when we were going through the yes she was the official greeter of the town okay uh
bubbly uh that that she never gives up on a student she refers to her students as her babies sorry boys yeah you got siblings now yeah so they know they know and dedicated uh Ashley was born and raised
in Gloucester Township she comes from a long line of public servants her father is retired Captain tror her brother is retired lieutenant dver her husband's detective in the police department here all in Gloucester Township she went to Glendora School then landing and
graduated from Triton High School she then attended Canam County College and then moved over to Ron University and graduated with her degree she started as a teacher in the Gloucester Township Public School District a substitute teacher in Middle School 18 years ago and then segwayed over to uh Elementary
School currently she is a first excuse me a kindergarten teacher at er Elementary School uh this past year each year uh there are nominations that are accepted in the gloss Township Public School Districts for Teacher of the Year in
their particular school and Ashley was selected as the teacher year at Euro Elementary School for the 2324 school year however all those we have a we have 11 schools so eight Elementary excuse me eight Elementary three middle schools
and over 600 teachers so of the 11 teachers that were nominated for their respective schools as teachers a year in their own particular building then they are then selected as one teacher of the year in Gloucester Township so over 600
teachers uh are in our school district k through eight and to my left was the teacher of the year for glester Township Public Schools she was named teacher year teacher of the year in May of 2004 so her Reign's about the end because they going to be a new teacher of the year in
May of 2025 oh sh can't let that out okay so uh she is a parishioner at Our Lady of Hope where she is involved with some of the activities that her children do whether it's making paner bone jelly sandwiches for Martin Luther
King Day riding cancer bags uh for cancer patients uh and she is involved in their activities that gets her involved as well uh again the comments that add the adjectives I described at the beginning came from nominees that
were not just her colleagues but parents that deal with her on a day-to-day basis and she shared a story with me as when we spoke last week that she had a teacher that influenced her when they started Hooked on Phonics uh when she was in school she had some difficulties
with it but that teacher took extra time stayed after school and continued to work with her and then I give up on her and that's what inspired Ashley to become a teacher uh and to to be a wonderful and outstanding educator in the glester Township Public School
District so on behalf of Gloucester Township uh mayor and Council you present this to you in recognition of your exemplary leadership outstanding service and dedication to the people of the township of gler [Music] congratulations thank you I feel ill
prepared because people wrote speeches and I did not know got delivery a thank you got another delivery [Music] my thank you yeah I I did not know that I was
supposed to say something um but I'm going to I feel I feel um but yes thank you so much your words mean so much to me I I come from a line of service as he said um my dad in Ste intill a love oh God stop don't look at me stop don't
look at me um my father intill a very deep passion for education at a very young age um my mother um was a homemaker and was there for everything I can remember from preschool all the way up through high school um so I like to
think I got the best of both my parents I got a deep passion for education for my dad and a heart of goal for my mom she's she's my woman Difference Maker because she made me who I am today um and my boys I want to say thank
you to my babies that just came up here I love you so much you make me want to be better every day every day and my husband thank you he's my Conant cheerleader I'm cheerleader for everybody else but he's always my cheer leader um but this means so much so thank you very very much
[Applause] thank you so much thank you thank you everybody now we have one more last but not least kashana Yara wles come on down [Applause]
did I say it correctly okay good I wasn't sure uh she was nominated by Dr Yanka Brooks Yanka Brooks from Rowan University Dr Brooks has known Yara for
15 years and during that time she has consistently demonstrated yanet a humanitarian Spirit dedicated to her Community that's important she's honest and she constantly pursues the
spirit of education and professionalism in her life her humanitarian spirit is holistic and ex and it extends to her customers she has a business a small business and her commitment to
community her mission is to educate provide and model that a healthy lifestyle is obtainable for all even though we think we can't do it we can we can be healthy and it's also affordable for
everyone she is an exemplary Citizen and a staple in the community despite barriers that you've faced as a small business owner that has not stopped her from attending community events Town Halls school function
and also while she's doing all that she's Ed educating herself and she's educating her community and she educates others on the benefits of Healthy Living Yara also supports other small businesses in her community and helps
them out when they need help I think that's very important too Yara continues to stay informed on educational and current business and customer service practices I wish a lot of businesses did that sometimes you go out to a business and you never know what's going to happen or
what you're going to get but Yara voluntarily signed up for a program at L laa Women's Business Center that's an entrepreneural development training program and while simultaneously
attending that program she was running her business and in addition yar's Capital business it's called juice capital juice Capital let's get a plug in there she voluntarily participated in a year-long
collaboration with Consultants to improve her business practices I think that's really important too if you want to be successful you've got to dedicate yourself to learning more about what you're doing to make sure you're the best that you can be and this is what
she does she believes in education as I do as a longtime homeowner in Gloucester Township it is a mendous benefit to have a business owner who lives in town and continues to give back to the community and I really appreciate her
let's show her we appreciate [Applause] her same thing all right say a few words okay yeah plug your business oh yeah I am okay my name is kashan y wles thank you so much for everyone my mentor
yvanka Brooks and everyone here that you guys beautiful beautiful beautiful beautiful just helping others that is the part of the game you know you live you know Christ gives you life so you give back to other people and that's so important you know just to give back and
just to love others as you love yourself and you love the church and you know but um I just thank you um and I think that's it my name is y wles I'm the juice my my store is juice capital I hope it's it's in blackw New Jersey and
you guys I love lost of Township like I mean for real just to opening up and you they were very receptive welcoming you know helpful you know so I was like yeah this is where I'm this is I live I want to be here you know and stay here I do
the community events um also in the summertime I just did one with u Mystic Ginger you know so I'm definitely in the community but I'm off of Blackwood clemenson Road I know if anyone knows Anthony knows Pizza all right I'm two doors down from anthonino Pizza
I'm downstairs yes so everyone knows anthonino Pizza make sure you come see us and I health is wealth and um we definitely like to strive for you know healthy living through juicing juicing is juicing is life it really is you know
we help with uh people with diabetes high blood pressure you know who wants to take a more holistic natural way instead of medication come on see us we can help have a good night all right [Laughter]
this concludes our program uh unfortunately our mayor could not be here he had a prior commitment he does says his regards to those in attendance and all to honor the all the honores uh I want to thank our committee we had a committee of individuals Andre mcferson as a former recipient and also Renee
Michelle who's a recipient uh during Black History Month for reviewing our nominations it's very difficult to Widow it down to 10 nominees in the township this large I want to thank the people who nominated the individuals um those that took time to
nominate and bring these outstanding individuals uh to the Forefront just a recap we we have a cheerleader a champion of of students at Timber Creek but also a champion of of Gloucester Township in Kelly McKenzie
Terry fredz who cared about her neighbor I see Terry when I'm running in that big red truck she drives all through town I like it when she tells me I look thinner when I've been running so I do appreciate that Miss fret uh Chelsea charotte who was not here today but is
an outstanding educator at CW Lewis school and what we'll do is uh we'll we'll present that to Chelsea at CW Lewis School in front of her colleagues uh cheldon for giving great hugs that you give great hugs and also what you're going to bring to our community
uh and I remember TV 40 I went to undergrad at Stockton so I know that whole area down there in Galloway uh to Regina carista who has a work ethic that is just outstanding and can do a lot of things a lifelong learner uh tenise coin
as a rotarian and also working with Terry fretz to say that individual's home um going back to Terry fretz five years ago she was nominated but what happened five years ago the world shut down so this is five years too late Terry but congratul ations uh Cassidy
hmel working with seniors and you have a great mentor who working with Debbie who's been a lifelong a member of our community uh to miss MC who working with rescue dogs and being the surrogate Grandma you be my surrogate grandma too
so to Ashley Richards as the teacher of the year that that is again there are 600 Educators in GL CH public schools k38 and that is our teacher of the year and what you see here today is what people see at EO elementary school every
day an r wles wles as a small business owner and you have an excellent Mentor um I've known Dr Brooks for about 25 years and I would share a quick story with you uh back in 2000 or 2001 she
opened up a coffee shop in the city of canit on six and Broadway the city of cada did not have a coffee store for close to 50 years a coffee shop think of it think of of as friends it was friends in there and she had internet cafe and
it was a wonderful business plan and they were building Canam County College across the street they were renovating uh the new the new structure there and then Rucker University put Starbucks in yes so but it was a wonderful um
yvanka went through that program through Latin Latin American Economic Development Association Lea and has continued and served as a mentor to many people so thank you Dr for for doing that as well so I want to thank everyone for coming out this evening please and
those the honor please continue to do what you do and because you do make a difference so thank you very much and we have all the honores up here we're going to take a few pictures and we'll have a 10-minute recess thank [Applause] you
really why why find out I would love to have that information [Music] now probably you Jim's coming
[Music] you come us okay okay hey how are you yeah yes you a smile on this picture here over oh I sent a I sent it the picture
all the boys how you doing brother should look at your face [Music] she [Music] [Music] [Laughter]
you go well we're not going until so happy not you did I actually told your hand mind know [Music]
son yeah they're Myla in-laws up [Music] me [Music] do if you know anybody that's
like yeah I'll talk makes it's good [Music] I know I know are you doing this one I said I don't remember say we did yeah mam clerk I have a roll call again
please Mrs Aly Troxel here Mrs Grace love Mr Nash here wter here Mrs wyers here Mr Marcato present kir here Mr ctis
here Chief arkins here Mr Miguel here uh Miss Grace love had to leave for a family emergency Proclamation 220 2025 you drive utex you pay distracted driving Crackdown April 1st through 30th
2025 whereas distracted driver driving is a serious life-threatening practice that is preventable and whereas distracted driving can result in injuries and deaths to all Road users motorists pedestrians and
bicyclists and whereas distracting driving occurs when drivers divert their attention away from the task of driving to focus on another activity instead and whereas from 201 11 to 2020 distracted driving related crashes
resulted in 32,000 deaths on our nation's roads and whereas in New Jersey distracted driving was listed as a contributing circumstance in 50% of all motor vehicle crashes from 2016 to
2020 and whereas the state of New Jersey will participate in the Nationwide distracted driving 2025 Crackdown from April 1st through the 30th 202 25 in an effort to raise awareness and decrease driving distraction through a
combination of enforcement and education and whereas the national slogan for the campaign is you drive you text you pay and whereas a reduction and distracted driving in New Jersey will save lives on our road waste now
therefore be it resolved that David R mayor mayor of the township and Orlando Marcato council president do here for I proclaim the Tang cluster support for the driving distracted 2025 Crackdown both locally and nationally from April
1st 2030 2025 through the 30th and pledge to increase awareness of the dangers of distracted driving We Now open up our first public comment this is for agenda items only
this is for 15 minutes each speaker is entitled to three minutes you may speak one time after the public comment portion is closed Council May respond to any questions or comments at that time period anyone like to speak on the first public comment
period Mr poor good evening Council Ray paloro from the historic village of Ariel good evening I was trying to look at some details of uh the ordinance 2508 a little more uh detail on all of what was transpiring with the Blackwood West
Redevelopment um I know that you're not into the dialogue anymore to be able to explain that before um we go on to that so that I can better prepare a question for it I was looking for details regarding um what type of money is going
what type of additional money is uh is going into that project um you know just judging by the bank alone um and all that's going on there does it have anything to do with all that's moving forward and um or is it just on the
other side or down past the uh the arts section of that so that's basically what I was looking to find out as um I didn't see what I was looking for in the details of the ordinance um and if you'd
like to discuss that before uh you move on to the second reading of that so I can better prepare for uh that second reading discussion thank you thank you is there anyone else Mr leader as Council knows I don't know when I can speak on what
topic um so I'm hoping I'm on score this time r 23-13 may I speak on that topic it's a resol yes it's a agend item sir I did an internet search for the word Corman
sweets and nothing came up so apparently it doesn't exist uh my question is is Corman sweets a private or a government entity is Corman sweets a private or
government entity I repeat my questions because many times I ask questions and I get a nice dialogue back at the end of the meeting but my question was failed to be registered accurately and not answered I'll go into that further in the second
reading the same r253 103 I did an internet search for Teresa place in gler Township uh I did not find that Google did not find that it did find a Teresa's
place um my question is is Teresa's place a private or government entity is Teresa's place a private or government
entity may I speak on 0 25-8 there is a hearing for that if you want to save your comments thank you is there anyone else seeing n Co first public comment period uh Mr paoro 0-25 d08 is allowing
existing business which is a tattoo shop to expand to another uh building there um so there is no additional monies nothing out of Township's pocket there a business owner that wants to expand his business and that's the ordinance that's going to be um we'll have a hearing for
that uh Mr leer in regards to Corman sweets Corman sweets that's Cherrywood okay that's the former name of that whole entire project there that front part um the uh pavement of that Mr Mill U or or Mr Caris we're talking about the
streets there the paving so 103 103 well Corman sweets was the name of Cherrywood um they had those are familiar they had long-term rentals there executive rentals that were there
um and that is for two handicap ramps the concrete sidewalk concrete curb and that area if you're familiar with that Mr lead if you're going down Gloucester Township Road a sidewalk stops on one part then you have people walking on the shoulder of the road heading towards the
diner area or coming back from the diner area so that's what that is for that particular area Teresa place is located off of Church Street uh across from the old 7-Eleven that's Teresa place that is a public Street okay uh ordinance zero now we have our
ordinances second reading there will be a public hearing ordinance 0-25 d08 ordinance of the township of Gloucester County of Canon the state of New Jersey adopting amendments to the Blackwood West re development plan as adopted under ordinance number 0-21 D12 in
accordance with njsa 4012 A-1 ET SEC local read development and housing law this ordinance to amend section 1411b of the ARs district North Redevelopment Redevelopment District of Blackwood West Redevelopment area to permit the use of
a tattoo body piercing with retail sales and services at 12 North Black Horse Pike and 10 North Black Horse Pike when I open up the public here anyone wish to speak on this matter Mr leader you want that
time five Dave leader glendor I see a lot of directions of the compass on this and it it it's not clear to me what the geographic boundaries of Blackwood West
is um I tried to learn that through looking at the internet looking at gler Township website there's no Geographic description of Blackwood West on the glester township website and
further so my question is what are the geographic boundaries of Blackwood West what are the geographic boundaries of Blackwood West the second question in that is regarding the arts district that's
also referred to as part of Blackwood Blackwood West and to tell you the truth I don't know where the arts district begins and ends and whether it's Blackwood West is part of the Arts District or is the arts district part of
Blackwood West so my question is is the arts district different than Blackwood West and I have a I guess it's more of a question a comment uh for planning in the future
for parks and other areas in town where that you put in benches uh I for one need a back rest uh and most of the benches especially the one in the citizens appreciation part Which is closest to me that I can walk
to uh by the time I walk there I'm I'm pretty fatigued and uh like to sit back sit down but I can't lean back so I'm kind of hunched over my lungs that are already fatigued so just for future planning um it would be great if the
council would consider having benches installed that have back rests on them thank you thank you is there anyone else like to speak on this ordinance see not close the ordinance uh miss Corbin if you can help me out with
the geographic boundaries of in the Art District I know there's an overlay there could you please come to the mic Miss Corbin's our Township planner so the the black West um Redevelopment plan area which is actually outlined in the zoning zoning
map which is available online and I believe there's a copy upstairs as well by the planning office um I don't have the specific streets or boundaries of where it is but to answer um L's questions regarding the arts district
it's essentially along blackor Spike um closer to Church Street and blackw Spike intersection um there's no North and South um Arts District so yes it is within the boundary of um Blackwood West Redevelopment
area and Miss Le the benches I great I like the back rest so um I know that the recreation uh Department uh sells benches and most of our benches have the B yeah that over there
assistance appreciation and it just was part of the design I don't know why they did it that way is there another way to take a look at it we probably could yeah yeah yeah okay thank you may have a motion on this ordinance
0-25 on the question roll call please Mrs Al Troxel yes Mr Nash yes Mrs Walters yes Mrs wyers yes Mr marato yes congratulations sir uh uh ordinance 0-25
d09 ordinance amending chapter 24 the township of bler entitled storm water management of the code of the township of bler uh this updates and amends replaces uh storm water management in
the Gloucester Township code book uh there are close to 25 pages in there uh we'll Now open up the public hearing Mr leader Dave leader glendor there's a lot to read in that
um my first reading I read the phrase including green infrastructure my question is has that been recommended slash approved by the Green Team my question is has that been
recommended slash approved by the Green Team thank you is there anyone else like to speak on this ordinance okay we'll close the public hearing on that um the Green Team Mr
leader wouldn't be involved in this particular uh ordinance um they deal with uh sustainability and recycling type matters um but no this wouldn't go through the Green Team U could they take a look at it and view it and and but
this is a a storm water management ordinance to make sure that we're updated and complying with L with minimum minimum standards set by the state of New Jersey um but that's something that they could look at if they needed to I entertain a motion for this
ordinance 0-25 d09 second on the question roll call please Mrs Al chel yes Mr Nash yes Mrs Walters yes Mrs wner yes Mr M yes
ordinance 0-25 d10 ordinance adding chapter 74 of the township of bler entitled privately owned salt storage of the code of the township of bler uh the purpose of the Zord is to prevent stor Sal and other solid deicing
materials from being exposed to storm water We Now open up the public hearing on this matter anyone wish to speak on this Mr leader Dave leader glendor I I I read most of that um
document and uh I see that the public resident IAL is is indicated as having to follow this documents I know I have an ice bucket um in fact we went through two of
them this year um I didn't know that I had to have it on a concrete surface um where water couldn't get to it so I guess I would be uh I don't know called out for not properly
following this ordinance it's kind of alarming that government is overstepping into the residents area uh for throwing salt on their sidewalk thank you is there anyone else would like to speak on this
matter I have a representative from CES can you address this for us who at our slorm water management uh oversees that for the for the township good evening Marie B from Consulting engineer Services um so the ordinances that there
to um protect our Waters in the state of New Jersey um there's quite a few ordinances that get passed through What's called the municipal storm water um permit that the township holds so it's to protect the water of that you drink that you swim in that you so if we
can just be better um at learning what our pollutants are uh salt is a pollutant I mean even the township has responsibilities when they salt the roads that they have to make sure that they pick up chunks that are sitting out there they have to make sure their salt sour is covered um now the state's coming through and trying to make it be
where everyone's doing their part so if we can protect our wooders by you know covering our salt you can still own salt you can still use salt um they just they want to limit it to the exposure from groundwater so if it's raining and um your you know your Salt's open it's only
in certain months that they want to make sure that you know you're allowed to have it there's no stopping you from using it and having it it's just a matter of the protection of the of making sure it's either covered or put away or you can have permanent storage if you have a um sealed container it could be sealed and then you don't have to worry about inspection or anything
like that it's just to be more Vigilant of what you have on your own property to make sure that our water stay clean thank you very much appreciate entertain a motion oh I'm sorry Miss smithman [Music] hello my name is Shaun C smithman I live
in the SDK Milbridge Gardens apartment complex on milbrook Court Apartment 341 back of the apartment faces Kelly driver Road identified as Kelly Driver Lane on the New Jersey Transit bus schedule um ask where is this salt being
stored will I answer questions at the end oh my I apologize when it come to the the ordinances with the second readings I'm I'm used to um back and forth dialogue oh where will the salt be
stored stored uh I ask because as far as fire departments go I live in Gloucester Township of the city but my the city according to the United States Postal Service is clementin there is both a clemon fire
department and a Gloucester Township Fire Department yet I was told by the I think I called the township but I think it's was different for the fire department that choose Landing is actually the fire department that would go to my apartment
I was having trouble with the having the dryer line cleared very fortunately they did clear it finally after much any questions because it was full of paper towels wonder how that happened um so where will this salt be
stored since the township is so vast will it be stored within Gloucester Township or will it be stored in a city within it and I also heard there is something called pet safe salt that they sell
apparently the salt that they use for the roadways is is kind of toxic to some animals and I do notice within this Township that there is a very large amount of um pet owners that walk their
dogs and such within the township and does that take into consideration where these things are being stored somebody might have pets and not realize that salt is toxic I would have never thought that that the salt that they put down to is this is for snow I'm assuming because all it
says is privately owned salt storage it doesn't necessarily say what it's for thank you thank you anyone else like to speak on this ordinance public hearing miss smithman this is this ordinance is for uh private um
businesses or or homeowners as far as privately owned including residences where they store their salt not the township Miss Smith okay I entertain a motion on this ordinance second on the question roll
call please this Al Trel yes Mr as yes Mrs Walters yes wers Mr M yes and now obtain a motion for the consent agenda any council member like to have any of the items removed please speak up hearing none I rain a motion to
accept the consent agenda as presented have a motion I make that motion there a second on the question roll call please Mrs Al Trel yes Mr Nash yes Mrs Walters yes winers yes yes we
did not receive any GTE eup access emails We Now open up our second public comment portion this is for 30 minutes each speaker is entitled to five minutes each speaker may speak one time during this portion at the end of the public comment we will respond I'll ask my
colleagues if they would like to respond to any comments that are made anyone like to speak M yes good evening Council Brian Burns all we drive in Ariel good evening Mr B um two
things I just want to um express my viewpoints on I suppose uh get some clarity on uh two weeks ago when I was here we talked about the four residential I'm sorry commercial buildings that are planned or being
proposed on Hicktown road so we're look looking at four buildings this was a resolution resolution r2502 073 um and I distributed with that uh to
you folks a number of documents and uh miss Corbin the planner responded but not necessarily to my question miss Corbin did say that the information that I provideed Council was accurate was
true she said there will be planning board meetings with regard to these uh these structures but she didn't answer my question my question was why did Council knowing full well certainly
should have known full well that these lots and blocks are a natural heritage site number one and number two are in the reexamination of the master plan and specifically noted as needing or uh
suggesting or requiring whatever word you want to use to be rezoned for something more appropriate so those questions were not answered I'm I'm quite aware that there's many applications and many steps in anything that's being constructed in
Township but why Council drafted that resolution and approved it when it is in direct conflict to master plan reexamination and the fact it's a natural heritage site and on multiple Pages within the
reexamination report identifies it as a environmentally sensitive area so there's three questions there um the other thing I wanted to address and has kind of been bothering me um is this new protocol for public
engagement you know I've been comeing here minimum six years eight years and I will admit that there has been some combative argumentative anybody want to see nasty discussions between Council and
residents and I get that you know and I'm supposing that the purpose of this is to quell that so that doesn't take place but you know this is American folks and I think at best it's
silly and at worst it's a form of censorship and you may like those words you know I'm always like my glass is always half empty I try to see both sides but when you have the last word you
basically you create the narrative you know I had to wait two weeks now to come back up to answer the questions that I wanted to answer two weeks ago to me that's silly you know I just um yeah restricting residents from engaging in
open discussion discusss with council is not looked upon as positive transparent environment in my view I was a teacher for 40 years now what would it be like if students in my class said we can't talk about anything okay I'm G to tell you
this and you're going to take it and you you have one chance to tell me your view on something now tonight we honored a bunch of Educators education comes about through open dialogue and discussion not running a narrative not
having the last word and it's just it really it irritates me that you know you get the get the question you give an answer and I can assure you that many residents who come
up here have a followup question well we we we can't do that anymore unless we want to wait two weeks you know and I have a feeling that there are council members that in their heart know that I'm right and would prefer to see this protocol
changed because if I was sitting there there's no way in the world that I would vote for that you know this is America now this is not Trump writing executive orders this is the way it's going to be I don't like what's going on I'm going to write an the executive order I want
to get away with it you this is a community and we should be able to have open dialogue you know and I've had a lot of discussions you know with students and students have called me all kinds of names and I have a real thick skin and I
always took the high road always and sometimes I had you know discussions with parents that I didn't necessarily agree with but we had those discussions and we came to amigable you know resolutions to the
problems so I'm out of time but I did have those three questions and if I if I can add a fourth what was the purpose of the new protocol for for the meetings so three questions thank you Council thank you Mr Burns is there anyone else Mr
leader Dave leader Glendora Council already knows how I feel about your new format that blocks dialogue between you all in the public makes We the People sound kind of
funny doesn't it the people are stifled from having a feedback to your opinions be it rude I don't know I feel it's always rude when I end up in that condition what purpose does it
serve public sessions are shorter no question about that clarification no there's no clarification on either side because of that ruling that started with the protocol for this meeting's
Organization for 2025 council members I'd love to hear your agreement your disagreement your comments regarding the format I have a document I'd like to pass on to
president Mardo sorry as you noticed last time I repeat my questions twice so twice burned whatever that phrase is I've been burned here too many times so have other people of the public
the we the people the people who you serve many of them have complaints about their question not being answered there has been some wonderful dialogue describing the topic that people ask but never any
details that actually answer the question that was asked you know it's happened to me several times I brought it to your at attention last last meeting I asked how can I contact and join the Green Team well I sure learned a lot about the
green team didn't I I had Mr CIS and Mr Mardo explained the Green Team what his responsibilities are how it behaves my question wasn't any of that just the name green team is something I'm interested in I've been interested
in since recycling since my daughter got into high school and said Dad stop not recycling since then I've been an advocate my question is how can I contact and join the Green
Team how can I contact and join the Green Team there's a lot of lot of pages in the documents that clerk put on the agenda I was doing word searches they fail there is no way to word search those
documents it's an awful laborious with 51 Pages it's awful laborious to read through those multiple times looking for a key phrase that you're interested in my question is how can I do a word
search when the glester township agenda document how can I do a word search on the glester township agenda document next question is how can I copy words and phrases on the glester township agenda
document how can I copy words and phrases on the gler township agenda document I would do that so I could prepare my notes to speak to you all so it's not so disjointed and I'm actually
using the actual words that were in the resolution my next question is do cluster Township employees participate with an annual slash other in other words a period to be defined in the answer period periodic performance
review with the person to whom they report I'm not going to repeat those I Mr Mado has a copy of my notes do the Gloucester Township employees have an option to disagree with the reporting manage manager's comments and measurements
do the employees receive a dated and signed copy of the performance review thank you for your attention thank you Mr leader is there anyone else Miss coin uh Barry and then Miss Smith Denise coin choose Landing have a
visual aid um good evening I have reviewed the publicly available Outlook calendars for two highlevel Township employees Gabby moscara director of The Sur utility who earns
$120,000 annually and Primo Cruz assistant solicitor and mayor's Chief of Staff who earns 170,000 annually combined we are paying nearly $300,000 in tax pay payer funded Sal iies to these two
individuals Gabby mosca's calendar is nearly blank with only a handful of entries there is no visible evidence of the daily work expected from someone managing an essential Township utility at the same time she's frequently cced
on internal administrative emails unrelated to the Sewer utility emails about hiring decisions that fall under the mayor's office this raises serious question is she truly functioning as the Director of the sewer utility or is she
operating as an administrative Aid to the mayor with her salary shifted to the Sewer utility budget and if she's serving as the sewer utility what does her day-to-day work consist of the calendar provides no real
clarity as far as Primo Cruz the calendar we received was almost completely redacted he is drawing $170,000 split salary split between the legal department and the mayor's office and yet the taxpayers have no visibility
into the duties he performs each day to justify that amount to demonstrate that concerned I've printed and displayed both calendars for you to look at the public deserves to see what our $300,000 is
producing in terms of documented work and value I also want to bring to the attention to your attention Mary Joe dintino who was hired January 21st 2025 as a senior citizens Outreach coordinator under the Civil Service
title community service Aid she's being paid $1,000 above the stated salary for that position meanwhile Flyers advertising her senior events include her name under the heading of Office of the mayor
suggesting she may may not be operating within the community services department at all this creates confusions around her role and title and where her salary is actually being drawn from it also raises a bigger question if this position had
not been filled in years prior what changed in 2025 that suddenly made this role urgent and necessary especially at a salary exceeding the approved range it's council's role to get answers to ensure that public dollars are being
spent transparently and in line with law and public interest with that in mind I would like Council to answer the following questions one does Gabby muscara work specifically for the sewer department or is she performing it performing administrative duties in the
mayor's office if she's serving as the sewer utility director what are her daily responsibilities what is primo Cruz doing on a daily basis that justifies $170,000 salary split between the legal department and the mayor's office and
why is his calendar so heavily redacted three what is the official job duties of Mary Joe dentina four why is she being paid $111,000 above the salary range for the position she was hired into five why do
the Flyers list her name under Office of the mayor and her salaries being paid from the mayor's budget or from Community Services six why was this position filled now when it was not identified as a need in Prior years and
seven why do we need an assistant solicitor when we never had one in the past thank you thank you Miss smithman oh Barry excuse me Barry good evening Council uh just a couple of
things bar can we have your name oh I'm sorry Barry Salvatore yellow Hicktown Road cville um I guess the first thing I need to do is I kind of need to address something to uh Chief arkins I live on Hicktown road across
from your firing Lan two weeks three accidents that were reported that the police responded to tonight on my way here flatbeds were there pulling another car out of the woods from in front of my neighbor's house it's just a constant constant
thing your officers know me by name when they pull so I've requested in the past and I've called the county i' I've mentioned it here never specifically to you so I'm don't want that to be misconstrued as anything else but is there anything we
can do to slow people down on Hicktown Road as they're coming to that curve there is a level spot in the road there's no Crown there's a level spot when the roads are slightly damp they hit that spot they're out of control two
of these accidents were upside down cars in my front yard I'm spent and none of them ever have insurance I'm spending a fortune filling in my yard and doing things because it's easier than filing civil charges to
get you know to go to court to take these people small claims short they don't have insurance I'll never see a penny anyway but I'm just asking a flashing light with the solar collector on top slow curve ahead
um just anything something would help and and you know and I'm and I bring that up because I'm also concerned because I'm now looking at four 10,000 foot warehouses that are going to be built in my backyard if everything goes through the
way they're looking to get it done what is going to change with the traffic I mean it's going to put a lot more trucks if people are exceeding the speed limit which they do I've offered my front we could clear up the township deficit issuing speeding tickets sit in
my front yard I'm just I'm just trying to look out there's houses with kids somebody's going to get killed and I don't know if that's what it's going to take to make a change happen but it's gonna happen um with that being said I'm just
trying to find out if the development that's being changing the subject I apologize thank you sir um if we're looking at where they're building at St Pas is there a secondary exit to come out of where they're building and developing onto Hicktown Road or is it
still going to remain all on Peter Cheesman by the college I need that would appreciate it if I can get an answer to that um as far as what two fellow uh residents have
brought up I kind of enjoy the open dialogue in here I mean obviously yes there's a lot of conflict that goes on I'm not going to say that I'm I'm happy about it because I'm not but we do deserve to get some answer sometimes and
I think that's very important you know I mean is there a lot of unnecessary bickering that goes on absolutely absolutely but it comes from both sides you know sometimes I feel like things are said that are very
insulting to some of residents um maybe if sometimes we weren't treated like petulant children we could have a better dialogue that would go on throughout the night and I'm speaking from experience when somebody asked me if I knew what a
specific word meant during one of these meetings just because people are sitting out here and not up behind the bench does not mean that we're dumb so and I guess that's it for tonight but thank you very much for your time thank
you hope you feel better thank you Miss smithman [Music] 663 hi good evening Council my name is Shaun C smithman I live in the SDK Milbridge Gardens apartment complex on milbrook
Court Apartment 341 uh I've been trying to think of different ways when it comes to car safety on Kelly driver Road since I am a pedestrian I walk I
notice quite often people will forget to turn their lights on the head the lights for their their vehicle I have a little bit more reason to be concerned I remember on I think it was Blue Bell Road ironically I think his name was Bobby
Bell was one of the passengers in a car uh they blue b road kind of had like a little step up and then a side entrance into forestel development I grew up in Victory lake so it was fairly close to that area people would take that road to
get in between the housing developments uh the second tier of the light was not engaged well they actually they didn't say all that they said was that the lights were not on and somebody said the lights were on he rear ended the car decapitated both the driver in
front and Bob Bell he passed away he he struggled he lived for maybe a little bit more than two weeks um but it was it was preventable in certain ways and if not because like I said to engage
the headlamps on the older vehicles if you pulled it Forward once only a part lights come on you have to have your foot on the brake in order for anybody to see you from behind and when he came up the the ramp but they just brushed it off they said that uh there was alcohol in the system I
don't know if he was necessarily drunk the driver um and they said that her lights were on but I've seen these vehicles dropping with just the first tier engaged on the lighting system so I've been thinking about it
for maybe 20 years it's quite possible these lights in these housing developments might be a little too bright when people are exiting their when they're leaving they may not notice that the main lights on their car are not fully lit so maybe if you would consider
dimming those lights a little and the lights along the path because I see people when I'm leaving the shop right as they're driving toward me on Kelly driver Road their lights are not on but if they turn west or eastbound onto County Route 534 there's no lights on that one section and
there's quite a few housing developments over there now you have a reader water ice the WWA reopened those are all things that get people walking especially children from where they live to there and if there's a bunch of them sometimes they're distracted I think I brought this up before there was a boy I
think his name was Adam he was right near Lily Street on Sunset Avenue kids were playing when they're playing they can't hear everything somebody threw his book bag in the street he went to get it he got hit by car and he died that's real time that happened in in my lifetime when I was growing
up um not to be too depressing but I mean I don't know if they had the drinking and driving awareness there was someone I don't think the drink driver was drinking I think there was a designated driver but the passengers in the vehicle were um there were not reality they weren't anything the woman
just got the one girl she got a little sick she rolled her window down she stuck her head off the window to vomit the street sign took her head off because the driver went oh you know like this and those are kids just having a day but they don't they don't talk about stuff like
that you know like the reality of it I hear things on the news my whole life I think one of the most common thing I'd ever heard was when there was that flood in Louisiana New Orleans was it uh there was a flood uh near you had the the square
where it was where people go for marra they flooded it's actually located below sea level so they knew this and they did have some system in place to remove the water but um as they were as the pumps were taking the water out of the
city they had to keep stopping because they kept getting clogged with bodies there were so many bodies that they actually had to shut the pumping system down and years later when I brought it up people were denying that that happened and I saw that they tried to get them to at least
acknowledge the lives that were in those pumps that they just shut down and walked away away from because the city reflooded and they wouldn't turn on certain certain pumps they just refused um my identity still so I would like to know why Chief David Harkins here sent my information out of this
County of Camden I would like to know why he had my information out of the main office and they did not send it to investigate fraud they sent it for therapy to say it's I guess that's the suggestion that it's in my head that
it's a mental illness thank you m you're very rud other people had more time good day is there anyone else would like to speak that not spoken yet close second public comment perod
uh I asked my colleagues on Council as I go through this if anyone wants to respond to it uh Mr Burns had indicated that when he has asked the question and M Corbin talked about um the possible four buildings on Hicktown road that
questions weren't answered he provided us two questions Mr Burns to be frank you I have to take a look back at that resolution and I will personally email you back uh this week um your questions regarding master plan reexamination environmental sensitivity of that area
um rezoning um why why did Council move forward with that uh thank you for your comments on the format um and then you ask for the purpose of the protocol um my responsibility is to manage the the council meetings and conduct the
Township's business um we provide public comment uh in the first public portion for agenda items or ordinances hearings second public comment and also through ovs uh the comment the comments that are made
here are uninterrupted uh the comments are responded back to the to individuals that are there and I believe this format allow our me meetings to move uh forward and allows us an opportunity to go about
other business of government here I know some people may not agree with it again if you take a look at other municipalities throughout the state of New Jersey this format is very similar to what they do in those municipalities uh Mr leader uh you want
to know how to join the Green Team Mr leader I will send you that contact information tomorrow to your email I have your email and I will give you a green team contact person in regards to the questions that you provided me here
uh a lot of these questions are questions that are are the are part of the administration like how to do a word search on the agenda document how to copy words or phrases on the GT agenda document those are things that the clerk uh clerk's office or the business
administrator can help because they're part of the administration as far as GT employees participa in with annual performance review and who do they report to that is an administrative question now I can have Mr Caris respond to that do the employees have an option
to disagree with their comments and measurements on evaluation I would imagine so that any type of HR format you would provide a response back you have to sign your evaluation but you can also disagree with that I would imagine Mr cars that's the same format here I
don't believe we have a formal uh performance evaluation policy we don't have a a form that we work with the employees uh and do that on a regular basis um employees are in the union
they're also Civil Service um they're subject to Progressive disciplinary action um if someone is not doing what they should be doing they would be subject to that that protocol but they have the opportunity to respond to it in writing if always
always maintaining their personnel record okay do employees receive a dated and signed copy of any performance review we do not they do not re they do okay I'm gonna provide this Mr leader I'm gonna give these questions to Mr
Carson take look at them as well thank you okay Miss coin had um brought up a board is this transparency and brought up two of our um employees here in the district
Mr Cruz and miss moscara and also excuse me third and Miss dentino um and there was questions uh that were asked and I believe uh a Oprah request was made of these same
items am I correct Miss cor I'm asking for clarification yes okay is that a time is that time frame is that something a time frame that Mr car May or or Madam clerk M par that we didn't meet
or we're still providing need to provide information we still have we're processing them we have multiple opras right now we're working through them okay was denied don't have to do and I wasn't
asking for specific doc question these are the questions that are asked here Mr Cruz and M Miss moscar serve at the pleasure of the mayor uh also as uh Miss dintino as well uh Miss mcare is
the the sewer director of the sewer utility and Miss Cruz serves as an assist solicitor and also a chief of staff to the mayor um they serve at the pleasure of the mayor um regarding their
calendars uh I know I write things down in the book I don't always put it on my Google Calendar um there are things I don't know what is redactable or not redactable Mr car what can be shown there I know in my line of work you know
if Mr Carl wants to deal with me on FMLA matter that cannot be shared okay so I don't know what can be what's redacted what cannot be redacted um this is out of the purview of council this is administrative questions that are being asked of us and I guess Miss cor say are
we aware of the money that's being uh that's provided to these three individuals uh those are administrative tasks and that's correct that that's correct and the what's redacted uh on uh
Primo Cruz's uh chart uh I did not review but I'm sure he had advice of some counsel special Counsel on those type requests uh and that's probably why they were redacted
okay uh to Mr Barry uh Chief in regarding the Kicks Down Road and the activity there uh the chief said he will look at that for you and I see Mr uh also renck went down there and grabbed your oh there he is okay grabbed your information
uh miss Corbin can you help me on this St Pi uh the across from K County College and I guess the question is is there a second exit for that particular development are you aware of
that okay all right bar we're gonna grab some information on that I that that's the planning board function but we'll try to get that information for you um and I U heard your concerns about the format here as well uh Miss smithman thank you for your
comments with that uh can I have a polling of directors Mr nothing to report Mr ctis nothing at this time chiefin I'll just add for the Hicktown Road complaint that is an active area that we're going to be looking at um in
our capital budget we had more of those uh those radar signs that's a potential again I I can't promise because they solar powered the amount of sh but it is one of our locations that's on our uh that we're going to be exploring since just emailed track
Lieutenant will step up things and I assure take a good look at it that's all I have thank you Mr Miguel nothing to add thank you Mrs Au Troxel just another congratulations to all the women who make a difference I see
there's one or two still here congratulations and thank you all for coming Mr Nash um yeah I'm going to comment on um the new format um I I I still I do believe that the intentions I agree with president marado that the
intentions of the new format were to ensure a more civil and a amicable council meeting because sometimes the meetings were getting a little out of hand um I also do agree that open dialogue is sometimes more productive um so what I ask is this
something that council could potentially brainstorm again now that we had this new procedure in place for three and a half or almost four months or three months then maybe something we can come back and say you know what let maybe maybe there's some ideas that we can do to maybe try to give back a little bit
more of that communication let but without the arguments it may not be possible but I'm just asking is that something we can try to revisit uh we can take a look at it Mrs Walters I want to thank everybody for coming out tonight congratulations to all the women who do make a
difference um your difference inspires somebody else to continue doing the great work and I appreciate all the comments tonight thank you Mrs wyers I want to thank everyone for coming out and congratulate all the nominees for women who make a difference um it's always nice to see those kind of things
uh in our Township and to um honor the women who are making a difference and taking that step forward and not just sitting back um have a great night Mr Mar I want to thank everyone for coming out this evening uh congratulate all the honores uh and thank you for the
committee that reviewed the nomination and for the individuals that nominated uh those 10 outstanding women uh on April 12th the gler township scholarship committee will have their 5K race and walk here at stars at Veterans Park uh
that is a annual fundraise that goes towards providing scholarships to high school seniors to attend college uh this year they give approximately $45 to $50,000 a year towards that uh Endeavor and then on April 14th at our next
council meeting they will be drawing those uh recipients so uh 50 45 to 50 recipients will be selected along with t other recipients that will receive $100 uh Awards as opposed to the $1,000 for the first 4550 recipients so if
you're able to 10 I would appreciate it uh with that I rain a motion to adjourn I'll make that motion there a second all those in favor I have a great evening everyone thank you [Music]