We can go into the second one. I'll be right back. That's all right. We wait for John. No. No. Okay. Meeting to order. First thing is approve the agenda. Additions, corrections to the agenda. If not, somebody may make a motion to
approve. I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. Someone to second. Second. All in favor say I. I. Both motion carried. Approval of the minutes from June 9th council meeting public hearing minutes June 16th special
council meeting additions or corrections to those minutes at all? They look fine. I did not come up with anything that was out of the ordinary. If not, somebody may make a motion to approve those two sets of minutes. I'll make a motion to approve the
minutes for the 9th and or both meetings on the 9th of June. All righty. Someone to second. Second it. All in favor? I oppose. Motion carried. Uh approval of bills checks 18505 to checks 18535
electronic transfers from 556875 to 56892 and 500 180 to 500 187. Any questions on that? If not, somebody may make a motion to approve.
I will make a motion to approve the uh bills. Someone to second. I'll second. All in favor? I oppose. Motion carried. Okay. Community comment. Anything here?
Any questions? Okay. We're into a new meeting. Could you please Oh, I'm sorry. John Lewis, I'm sorry. Uh my questions are about safety inspection of public work projects.
Question number one is what type of pre-work planning is done before city projects are undertook for the safety concerns or hazard identification? I think we have an engineer that comes on board and takes starts
takes for project. Okay. Number two, what process is used for hazard identification inspections once projects have begun? Hazardis in what? What's hazard? Yeah, hazards could be anything. It could be
weather. It could be trees falling on you. It's just hazards. Okay. Well, we're not going to grasp here. Is there's We're going somewhere here. No, I'm just got questions here. Okay. If you have an answer, that's fine. So if you go down and dig a water mane in
and you're supposed to look above and cut the trees off then so it isn't a persisting hazard or what? I just got the question is what process is used for hazard identification inspections once projects have begun? If it's a project run by the city
yes safety inspections of public work. Okay. I mean we have a lot of I think it would be a case by case basis. It depends on the type of project. It is um depends on if it's something the engineers have engineered, if it's something that um our sewer guy and our
city maintenance is doing. It just it's and this shouldn't be really puzzling because this everything on here is mandated by multiple agencies. Correct. I'm just it's really hard for council to answer unless there's a specific right now. I could sit here and grasp here, grasp there, grasp there. I don't
I'm not following you. So I Okay. Well, I got a third question. who conducts the inspections and at what intervals are the inspections completed daily, weekly, monthly or annually. Again, she just stated depending on the severity of the project, is it something
that needs engineering? Is it something as simple as we handle it in house? I don't know. I'm just asking. Well, you're you're really asking us to have a wide variety here to give you an answer. I I'm not following you. I mean that that would consist of if you went
to run the lawnmower down the ballpark and there's a possibility of a branch falling and hitting you possibly. Okay. So, are you going to hire somebody to predict which branch going to fall out of that tree or at what time or mower blade coming off or
you do you do all that at home then too? As a private homeowner, you're not required to do any of this by multiple agencies. The OSHA standards 1910 don't apply unless you have 10 or more employees. So that would be one thing to go home and look up. OSHA standards the 1910s
that's for uh public entities and industry and it doesn't No, there's a separate publicity 10 or more employee public entity thing that covers this. What is it a public ent where where did you get the list of questions? Where did they get the questions? Yeah,
I got them from a concerned citizen. No. Well, is that I take it that concerned citizen might be running an operation like that to provide all the answers for us for this then? I take it that way. I don't know on that. And he could predict if we went to grass
and the branches. Oh, he just gave it to me. I got one more. Sure. What process is used once a hazard identification for reporting and correcting that hazard in a timely manner?
What hazard? Yeah. Again, well, we got to let's go back. Let's roll this back. I know when you're talking about public entities and public utilities and public um pieces of equipment or whatever, common sense has
got to step in here somewhere, too. Yeah. If you see something that looks disarray or something that is leaning over or whatever or if you are you going to walk under it are you going to go hang on it. I mean you I don't know your
array here is pretty wide. I'm just saying common sense has got to step in somewhere. So is it a big project or a small project? Is it a is it a tree? Is it a building? I hope that's you're not following me.
And then I have one more. Oh, when was the last complete work inspection done and whom was it done? And whom was it complete? Let me restart. Yes. When was the last complete work inspection done? And by whom was it
completed? On what project? On what work? Any project. The last one. So, in other words, after we get done mowing the park, we got to have somebody inspect it. Is that what you're saying? No. Well, it was a project. Yeah. Okay. Sweeping the streets. Eli goes out
and sweeps the streets. Does a whole lot required inspections on running equipment. You have to have documented pre-equipment inspections and documented after your parking inspections. Not on a street sweeper.
Uh, yes. It's a I take that class and I forget what it's called. It doesn't have a license plate. A commercial vehicle has to have a pre-rip, a pre-trip and a postrip,
but that street sweeper doesn't. That lawnmower doesn't. That tractor doesn't. I just want an answer to the questions. Well, I guess you know hard to give you an answer when the question is so vague and so vastly wide that I guess if that agency wants to come
forward and then every time we get done mowing the grass, they want to take and come and inspect that and give us the okay, we did all right or there's a hazard, we missed something there in the park or boy, I've never heard of that. Does Rochester have that? I don't know.
Mano have that? I don't know. Somebody must have it because that somebody created a lot of answer questions there. Not really. And these are very basic. Oh, they're very vague. They're not basic. They're vague.
I don't think the city of Good Thunder has ever had anything like that presented to it before. I mean, as far as conclusions, that's not living in the 21st century now. Oh, with all the equipment. Eli now our new city guy. He's doing preventative
maintenance. He's inspecting before, he's inspecting after. You know, it's it's it's a oneperson shop, so there's not levels of maintenance to have uh somebody come in and check one thing and then somebody coming up. Of course, all these inspections are
documented, right? Still here, you would you want somebody to waste a 10 minutes inspecting the lawnmower? Absolutely. What what's going to happen to the lawnmark? I don't know. But Well, obviously you do because you want it inspected.
It's quite obvious, though. I know. You can ask him. I I know he washes it. I know he lifts it. I know he greases it. I mean, cuz you want a paper trail that makes everything. Actually, there is a paper trail. When he did the work on the lawnmower this
spring, he completely disassembled the gear boxes, replaced the seals, replaced the oil in the gear box. That thing in a million pieces. It's all documented by our work order process that we put in place this spring. And that's on the work order process. Yes, it is. Yeah. I've also started on on my own, I
started a spreadsheet where I'm tracking hours of equipment and when maintenance is done and when grease is done. Also, on the PC in the shop, there's that Excel sheet with the tabs at the bottom for each piece of equipment and the maintenance that's been completed. So yeah, I added a sheet to that that actually logs hours in the usage getting
and the the maintenance that's being done as you know. Thank you for that. That's Thank you. And when you're over here at the pump house, is there dangers in there that you're aware of that need to be documented or Yep. I would say it's things that I
would self inspect inspect and control. I'm the I'm a oneman show. Common sense of course. Um, for instance, I'll give you a good example. When we did the water tower inspection, we had uh central tank coatings come up and and do that. We all
met together outside at the trailer before they even started any work and made sure that they had the right equipment and the right um harness and the uh like amp ups and tie offs to harness. We made sure all that was in place before they started. And then
before they left, we had a a meeting at the end and we discussed how things went and then they went on their merry way. But uh safety is a major consideration. Those hazards there would be on th on their employees, not you. You're not in the tower. Right.
Right. Yeah. So, but there's hazards to crossing the street if you don't look both ways. That's right. You know, look out if you're on four corners. Yeah. Could be double the double the trouble.
Yeah. Well, we'll take it under consideration there. If you want to leave that list with Sue there, um, we can do that. All right. Anybody else under uh community comment? I'm happy to see we have a deputy here.
Nice. Very nice to see you. Thank you. Thank you for your service. Yep. I'm We Since we've hired the sheriff's department, I don't think we have ever received one complaint, have we? No, I'm aware. Good year. I guess we're very pleased with the
service we're getting from the Blue Sheriff's County Sheriff's and uh just continue to keep up the good work. I'll relate that to Deputy A. He couldn't make it tonight, but he asked me to step into his place. Yeah, I know. Uh Jim, he talked to him multiple times. You know, he's our leazison and Yep. Yep.
Could I get your name? Yeah, Lieutenant Phillips. Lieutenant Phillips. Thank you. All right. If no more community comment, we're down to sheriff's health department. And uh we had 70 hours. Assist civil welfare check, animal bike complaint, assist ambulance, parking,
direct patrol, disturbance, damage to property, driving complaint. Any questions on that? If not, we can go to the fire. Fire department. Chief Clammer said 10 calls, one grass, one lift assist, six medical, two motor vehicle accident. Questions on that? No, I was
just going to u give a question to Lieutenant Phillips. If there's anything that we can do for you to make your guys' job easier here or with dealing with the city to feel free to reach out.
Uh communication is a key to success. Uh the more we see you around here, the better. Yeah, as far as I know, everything's going, you know, very well and your positive feedback, you know, reinforces that. Like you had said, I think there was, did you say 70 hours?
Uh, 100 or no, 70 hours. Y 70 hours of patrol, but you're only being built for the contact. We'll try to make sure that we're north of that number rather than south. Certainly reach out to us if anything
isn't going. And I know Jim has Hagen's number and I told him I've got a couple things and Jim was talking to him right away and uh they were taken care of like very shortly in a short matter. So
no complaints? No, none at all. Uh when the kids go back to be in there when the kids are getting on and off the school bus. Yeah. That's been brought up a lot. Be a priority for people like that. happen every day, but more often than not is what we're shooting for.
I've seen it a lot cuz I take my grandson to the bus and know I've seen it a lot and thank you very much. And I have I've talked with uh Deputy Hagen, you know, but you know, sitting downtown is nice by the fire station or whatever and I talked to him about the
school bus and just to cruise through. I mean, we need both. But if they could see you, I think that it means a lot just to take a I mean, we're not very big. 15minute cruise through town would
be great. Spend a little more time here than that. But no, I just mean something that you said. Our deputies do rotate from days to nights and sometimes overnight shifts. So in absence of your liaison being, you know, working during the time that the bus would do the pick up and drop off,
we still make an effort to have staff down here to be here during that time. So you shouldn't see much of a lapse in in that regardless of whether or not your leazison is actually Okay. No, I do appreciate that. And uh oh, we have it. You I'm sure you got called a few times about motorcycles
riding around and you know, young kids on them and you know, four-wheelers, three-wheelers. They've been a little bit of a problem this spring. You know, I don't know. I think it's calmed down a little bit now maybe, but uh for a while they're they're running pretty wild.
We spent several hours in town. Yep. And y inevitably doesn't seem to happen while we're here. Imagine that. Yeah, Palad is horrible. They're flying all over all the time. I think they kind of shifted that way
because I know we talked to the Lyra Township president and he's just as picked about probably sees it on the roads. Oh yeah, they rip the roads up crazy in and out of the ditches. And I mean there's a place for everything, but not
in town and not ripping up the roads and requirements for those those type of vehicles. It goes back to common sense. You're not the only town that struggles with it. Everyone is dealing with the same things. What you know, you listen to all of our our issues about uh getting cars on on a
pad and currently licensed. I mean, do you see it in a lot of other small towns where there's too much stuff around certain properties or not? Well, I think what you're you've done to work towards is pretty consistent with what the other area towns are doing. Yeah.
To come back. So, I think in absence of those specific like what you want to do, you know, it creates those those may not be somebody's intention. So it doesn't sound like your intention as a council was to make something difficult.
It's just that we stand, you know, the way the town looks. And that's a good word, standard. We have to remember that just creating a standard in good standard, you know, not above, not below, just a standard be just like everybody else.
All right. Well, thank you. Um, fire department uh resolution 202507 donation from the Good Thunder uh fire department. Somebody may want to make a motion. I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2025-07.
Someone to second. I'll second that. All in favor say I. I oppose it. Motion carried. Street update from Eli. Yeah. So, I'll try to follow on the agenda and then uh probably stray after that. Uh South Hulk Street. Uh there's a
pretty uh significant concern there. There's a two patches and due to the crown of the road and the way the traffic's been on it, one hatch is buckling. Um I did have
WW come out and look and also Neielson. They're going to get numbers to us, but that's something that we're going to have to address uh fairly quickly. Um, not a wash out underneath it. It I don't believe in and that's what Eric from WW. I don't believe there's a
wash out underneath it. There was a large patch about four feet wide at one time years back and then recently they did a twoft patch when they redid the curb. And it's that two-foot patch uh kind of getting
pushed up by that existing what's left of that four foot patch. Um so there will be a few options, but when I get numbers, we can we can discuss those. Nobody got back to you about any of that down there the other day. You
I think I got a number from Neielson this afternoon that I haven't looked at and then I would think WWE would be coming. Okay. Soon. Oh, did John, did you look down there? You know, where that rip raft was? We talked about it last meeting. No, I never made it.
Okay. Well, I was down there with them guys and Eli and uh we're proposing to have uh take that rip raff up because everything's washing across the street. All the maple leaf,
butterfly, whatever you call them, they're all in there. Tree seeds. Tree seeds. Yes. and uh who's going to maintain that mess? So, we're going to get that dug out of there. We're going to try to put a catch basin in there and go down below and plum it in down below
to make that a better area because that that rock being there is a mess. Nobody can maintain it. So, we're there's a proposal that Eli will have next time, too. Okay. Yep. That's another number from WWE
that's coming. But it's uh I wasn't around when that happened. It sounded like it was it was an engineered But Bolton and Mink engineered that. Yes, they did. Yes, I think they engineered it with the hope that bonding was approved and we would
have money to do something more permanent. Okay. Yeah, that could be. Yeah, is the best answer I've got for why it ended up the way it is. both hand. I think we can improve upon it with common sense a long ways. Yep.
Yep. Uh there were three spots that WW did uh submit a quote for. Um two of them are in the alley from the
post office to behind the thunder. Um, one is around an existing manhole. And before we kind of go after that, I think we need to get a number. And I tried to get bon to get us a number to replace that manhole structure because it's the old brick type. Yeah.
And there's some deterioration going on in the bricks. Um, it's going to continue to be a problem and we're it's certainly an INI issue. Um, the other spot was uh uh further down the alley there. And then the third spot
that they looked at was the Euing and Chapel intersection. And there's a few there's a manhole and a water box there. And it's just kind of alligator cracking from one side to the other. So those are those three existing
currently in the We're kind of up against uh time again. We're scheduled to have seal coding August 6 was it? Yeah. So that was on my that was on my later but yes August August 6 uh I guess the quote from Pearson was approved last
year. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, but it was too late in the year, so we were put on their schedule for this year. I wasn't aware we were actually on their schedule, but I called them a couple weeks ago and they said, "Yep, we're going to be down there around August 6." He thought maybe they'd be pushed back a little bit. Um, I'm going
to call him because some of these repair issues we want to get done and we want to look at having some crack sealing done before we overlay that with that chip seal so we kind of get the best finished product.
I mean I know we've skipped couple three years at least maybe we're on the fourth year where we haven't sealed coded that one that first one Eli talked about I mean that road is going like this so that really has to and we got a bid
for half of that street for what was 100 100 feet or I mean yeah the options that WW is going to send is uh 24 ft which I think was to the center line of the street and about 103 feet or so um which I don't know the
house numbers but it basically be from uh Christristen cows uh to past the Frank rental where that that's bulging out. So I mean that could be a high price patch. I mean you can take and seal coat the rest of
the town that just won't get done you know. Um, would we ever consider not seal coating this year again because it's time has flyed by or do we taken We have the money for seal coating. It's like 90 something,000 bucks I believe.
Correct. And we we this year and we've saved that. I think we've went four years without so five years. You know, we originally we got going on seal coing it was going to be every three years just bing bing bing. But we run
into same thing every year. Small towns need little patches here and there. And we're kind of in October before we ever get anything done. And I haven't heard this from Pearson, but I've I've heard it from other guys in black top. And sometimes when you get late in the year with seal coating, they
won't they'll still do it, but they won't guarantee it because they don't know that it's going to be hot enough to bind that seal coating to the otherwise you're just plowing it off into the So, I mean, do we continue on with our seal coating this year and just not
the areas that we have laid out. Yeah, that's fine. I'm fine with that. Might have to come back and do it at the special session if because I I know we did postpone it last year. I think the year before, but beyond that, I don't remember. Yeah, cuz I think we put away $30ome,000
every year. So, we got that in three years to uh do that. And I mean, part of that, I suppose we have uh taken out to do uh some patching cuz there was a year or two there. We did a lot of patching. You know, that alleyway there.
Yep. Behind the post office. I was driving around in the sweet street. Sweet sweeper. Sweeper. Street sweeper. I noticed what I would call micro cracking. I mean, the whole street in some of your newer streets are literally
spiderweb and the moisture is going to get in there and you're going to have a pop pop pop. If you don't seal coat it, it's gonna it's going to get bad. Yeah. But Eli and I just talked about that today down by the school on the the farthest street. That's what I was talking about.
That one has an area that's very big. Yep. And I'm talking about we were talking about getting mascot. Is that how they say? Mastic. Mastic. And try to cover some of them cracks too because some of that that we had done is
very elastic. It does keep that better. So you did you get a number of another guy then? He was going to get you one, wasn't he? Uh the the guys from today or the No, the other uh when we talked to uh WW, he he had a guy that could do that,
didn't Was that Bargain or did he have another No, he had somebody besides him. He never sent me that, you know. Does a lot of that masting because South Ben Township has them do it. That's what I was just going to say. Who does it does it? Yeah, we had them do some past down in South Township.
And again, right there where Brian's talking and where Eli and we all seen that. I mean, you could probably spend what, $10,000 right in that area because, like you say, there's hundreds of these broken up pieces. Well, if we've got the been putting the
money away for three years, four years, whatever it is, we should do it. We should just do it and then let's save the save it from getting any worse. But the problem is, can we get them people to come in and do that before our sue coders get here? That's the problem.
Then that's what you need to do. Ideal world, we would have had this all all the crack sealing and mastic repair planned out for you can see if you can get that from the WW. Yeah. And do we want to give a number to Eli?
10,000 5,000 15,000 to spend on that to do them worst areas. Yeah, give them a number. But I don't know what it is. Oh, I I don't know how much how what that costs per foot or are you talking seal clothing or No, this is a domestic. Yeah,
I remember right. We did a a fairly small piece last year and I think it was fairly expensive, wasn't it? It is. That was from them guys in Mountain Lake. Yeah. But, uh, last year was Neiel, I believe.
Last year they did all the manholes and the water boxes in the street. Yeah. I don't remember. that like fan that's like six inches from all that. That's that mastic repair. Do you think Doug Who did that? Neielson did it because that's why he called because we had they had quoted us
because they quoted by the pound. So, we had approved X amount per pound. We had like $9,000. We were going to test it and see if it held up. Yeah. Uh everything looks good that they did. um with the exception of there's
some spots I think they went a little thicker than maybe they should have and there's printing and stuff but I don't know maybe when we get seal coat over that it'll it'll lock up too but so the seal coating that's a special line item in the budget as far as
repairs and maintenance of roads through you have that at your fingertips no should be in your I know but all your financials your your fingertips are so much faster than my No, they agreed to do the same quote
this year for what they quoted last year. Do you you have that conversation? Well, that would have been last year. What feeling do you get? Do you think they can did they say would they do it before? Possibly, but um
just road repair. He didn't he didn't being the fact that we had him last year and he kind of pre-qued it or pre-approved it. Right. So I think I think what happened is they weren't sure exactly how much it would take. So they this is a story I got from the Neielson
guys. So they uh X amount was approved and then we used about half of that to do basically around all the manholes and the water boxes and make it so we won't catch right here and stuff on there. So 11,000
76,000 that is still maint that's 2024 Robert that's yeah that well that's what you're looking for is last year's right yeah well our balance of what we have that's that's just listed under major
repairs and maintenance doesn't say specifics for street repair yeah it's under highways and streets yeah didn't mean to interrupt I think I would you think if you think you could call him and get some information and if
we can get it rolling right you know I give you Justin Sam's number and so then I work with him and he I saw them all ceiling with that rig. Yep. And Justin helps helps him do it even bargain.
Yeah. Justin straight how to do it and the best way and everything. He's a really good source of knowledge. True. Yeah, he's very willing to help any because it seems to me like we paid like
8 n 10,000 bastic that we did last year, right? I comparable is same amount looking about the same amount of space or a little bit more. So I it's quite an area down there. There's two areas. one at the stop sign across
from the daycare and then one there where the buses made the turn. You know, it that area is it's as big as this room, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah. And some of that I and those
guys will probably give me their honest opinion, but like bargain would probably say some of that needs to be mil or saw cut and redone because when you get that alligator cracking that's kind of that pavement drying out issues underneath
with the base that and I mean then you need to know whether we are going to not seal coat that area you know don't waste throw that money away. Yeah. And if you want to take and wait till fall or whenever we can get
something have it milled out put in a inch lift or whatever who's could come up with a magic number of give him give Eli the authority to up to 20 grand um talk with whether it's WW
or um Bargain whoever he deals with that can get it done in an appropriate amount of time to make sure that you're not ruining your roads. Might not be a bad idea for you guys to just approve boom max of this dollar amount. If it's
going to be over that, then he needs to revisit it with you guys at that point. But the thing of it is Southbend does when it comes to something like this when we know we've we've got to do something with that road because you guys don't want to jeopardize your money you've already
invested in that road. If you can visit that, you can repurpose it or you can replenish what is there. You really want to do that before the seal coating comes around. Yeah, we know that. But the thing of it is to get them in to get that done
before August 6th or 10th or 12th when Marge and Morgan is already coming to town. That's our problem. We know how to do it. We just got to get it so we can get it done in a timely manner. And right, Eli was on board this spring, you know. Yep. And he didn't he didn't look at
streets. Brian did when he swept them. He knows the problems. I look the golf cart. I'm always looking for cracks or breaks or water coming out of the road. That's not a good one. Well, and sometimes, you know, our lack of planning is somebody's emergency and
maybe they could pull a rabbit out of their hat because they know they're going to be coming into seal code and maybe they'd be willing to, you know, pull an extra man in to do it or something. Put that mastic on that big of an area. Is that See, I don't even know if that's the intended use for
That's right. or around manholes and cracks that go straight across the roads. All that spidering. I don't know if that will come and say well no you guys are throwing good money away frost boil in South Bend and that helped
for four or five years. Yeah, that was a pretty bad frost boil for a while. Why don't you see what you can do Eli about get somebody out here? Do we want to give him a dollar amount if they could do it and say two weeks 20 grand so we can get it done?
There's two areas down there that are big. Yeah. And we're talking strict domestic. Yeah. Yeah. So that would not a lot of work that kind of work. Can I interject for a minute? Sure. You know, when you got that spider in like that. Yep. It's nothing to do with the black top. I
mean, if you mil that up and put new black top down, you're going to have the same thing again in five years. The base that's what it is. Well, the black top is dried out. It has no flexibility anymore. The oil is dried out. Black top is made to flex. When it cracks, that means it's dried out.
There's no flex left in it. Exactly. and the base. But I know that base down there is very good. It is very good base. It's just the black top is probably 35 plus years old. That's pretty old. Yep. Well, I'll make a motion for Eli to look
into up to 20 grand. The buses. Okay. So, we can get it rolling before cuz we're already half the year's already gone and it's going to be August. So, Don made it. Amy seconded it. All in favor? I oppose. Motion carried.
All righty. Anything else, Eli? Control. Oh, yeah. You a lot. Uh, dust control. We're going to have uh Oh, what? EDC. It's uh the company that did it previously. They put the oil down
and then and then uh capped that. I think they used lime chips in the past. We're going to use rod um or red chips this time around. So, they have a quote in there. Uh it's 16665. Yes. Y and it's all of the existing things
we've done. Uh plus instead of doing fluoride on Hiller and Milky, uh we would do the oil and that's supposed to be a longer term than the chloride. So it' be one application for the year and
it should lock in pretty tight and not wash out as easy as like chloride. That's stickier. That's the stickier stuff. But yeah, hopefully without the with the red rock instead of the lime chips, it doesn't bleed through.
And uh if you were doing that chloride this summer with all the rain, it just washes it out. It don't last long. We need a motion to approve that then, Sue. Um yes,
the Yeah. One question we had on that when we were putting this together is um we're doing most of the main gravel roads except for that limestone chunk of Willard between Euene and Halliday and whether or not we would add that I
believe a citizen had asked uh Sue about that. So that would actually be right where that brick lives too, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So, they they were out of town, so I couldn't get an updated boat on that,
but um I guess that'd be like a block. Hard to pick up speed even. I mean, to kick up dust on that. Yeah. Little of a road, but Well, supposedly there's there is a lot of dust on that road set up that um
brought it to my attention. Yeah. Well, with all the dirt bikes and stuff flying around. Makes sense. Well, yeah, just and yeah, I'd say add it. Yeah, add it on there. Get it done. I'll make a motion to approve the EC
with addition that piece that's been John made motion someone to second. I'll second. All in favor say I. Motion carried. Then cars tree service, they did take
out trees in the rightway on that were of concern. Um, they also took the widow maker out by the ballpark. Um, in addition to that, there are three ash trees at Blue and Green Park. If you
come in to like the south, uh, sorry, I call blue and green park, but the ball field. If you come into that south parking lot and walk towards the playground equipment, um there's one tree that is definitely dying. Uh and then there's two that are in very very
fortunate. Uh so there's an estimate over $2,500 to uh remove those, fall everything off, chip the stumps, and uh back fill with dirty. I mean, when them trees are that far
along, they're uh they're too hard on to treat or anything, right? Yeah. So, yeah. Um they're not none of those three trees are are nice enough trees really to treat, right? And and mine and uh Brian from Cars and
and our opinion. Um so, in addition to that, he also gave me a price and it's per inch. So, I just uh inventoried and measured the half trees around town. Um, and there's a spreadsheet on that that I threw
together uh for treating trees that are um good healthy ash trees yet. Yep. So, we touched on that a year ago or so, wasn't it? Or was it two years ago? And uh yeah, um it needs to be done. And the thing that
is the trees that we're taking out are anybody thinking about that we should be replacing them, you know? Right. I mean, we just can't keep cutting them down without replacing them, right? So, there'd be money in the park to
replace the trees. I mean, if we don't do it now and you wait five years, that's just five years of growth. You know, thing is what trees you put back in. I know. I mean, don't put a soft maple. put some silver maple, hard maple or something, you know. I don't know what
else. Um, can you buy ash trees and put ash trees back? I mean, I can't imagine you can. I wouldn't want think you'd want to with the disease around that there is, right? So, hard maple. Well, yeah. I don't know. Oak trees are slow growing.
Very slow and dirty. I guess we should look at that too, Eli. And you know, I guess in the fall is not a bad time to plant a tree, right? Right. Especially down by the as you call the blue green part. You don't want something that's really really dirty. No.
I mean, you'd like a a decent shade tree that's Yeah, that makes sense. Think we should put it back in. You need something on this. I think we better um treat the car trees we got, right?
As much as we possibly can. Yep. Y this is Yep. You want to make a motion to approve that thing? Yeah, I will make a motion to approve the uh EAB treatment for cars tree service off of this spreadsheet that Eli has uh composed.
All right, someone to second. I'll second. All in favor say I. I. I post. Motion carried. Uh, and then the other thing that we just kind of got to put on our radar is the bell tower, um, structure of the bell tower. And it's something I think a
few of us have looked at, but uh, when that was moved in in what, 98 or 98, I believe, there's good concrete underneath. Um, the concrete's in great shape, but where the timbers from the original bell tower
are sitting on that concrete is in pretty poor shape. Uh so we need to address that in some way. Um there's a few options we've that have been tossed around or talked about, but um really I think I need to get numbers before we make a decision unless
there's discussion on what we would like to see done with that. Um I know there was discussion brought up about how we should make that some type of a uh veterans park. Veterans park. I think that would be a great use for that high vis, you know, the high
visibility of that corner and we can still do that, but the bottom 8 by8s on that belt are all rotted out. I don't have any money to fail. So, Oh, wow. I I wonder if we should actually have a professional engineer to look at that
cuz just to cover our bases and then cuz when I was when I was talking to Eli about it sounds like there's a lot of that wood has rotted and I wouldn't want to go under there and work on it if we used what had to get a crane or
something. you'd have to hoist it up so you could build a new structure underneath. Um, I think it'd be good to have an engineer company come out and just take a look at it and give us some options on what they think cuz maybe maybe it's maybe it's time the whole thing has to
go away unfortunately. But I would hate to see somebody go up in there and get injured trying to repair it. Or we do make some repairs that are that don't last as long as we should and it crumbles down on us anyway. So
it's been there since 18, but originally it was all enclosed, you know, the Yeah, it was in inside the the base that's underneath the that that deck all cottonwood trees. Yeah. So, any options of just lowering it and
making No, because the whole deck attached to it. We already talked about that, but Kellen come up with a good idea that we could put cement blocker on the bottom of it and just put a sill in it, you know, and you can just raise it up a half inch on the inside where the good
cement is and just put that in there. put your your plate in there and you could do it easily. Just one side at a time, you know, and an engineer back when it was time to take that down,
people said it couldn't be taken down. I don't take no for an answer. Myself and Jason and Keith Eington, we were the main three that got that down. And uh uh Matt's up crane was over here and uh
Denny was there and the guy running the crane. We had I beams on it. We picked it up and yeah, it got moved. So it it it looks like it's heavy, but it's not. You know, it could be secured by working under there at one side at a time. An
engineer, you get a young engineer out there and they're going to look at that and go, "Well, it's just got to go away. because they have no idea how to preserve older stuff. They don't know it. You know, they might though.
They might though. Yeah. To be if we're going to try to turn into a veterans park, doesn't it need to be ADA compliant as well? So, we don't want all those stairs because if it needs to, you know, I mean, if you're going to have a veterans park there, you want to have it where
any veteran or whoever can walk into it. And if they got to go upstairs, you got to put a ramp. But if you put it lower, they wouldn't have to. Point out though, too, that ain't up to code anymore. Well, right. I mean, what is the original? Just that part or the whole deck around it?
Oh, just a part. So, the whole deck around it could go away and you could just put it on the ground. Yeah. And then put like a patio or something or walkway around it. Yeah. That you could, you know, but again, then how much are we going to
spend? Well, you know, that's going to be, you know, you'd have to get a crane in here to pick it up again originally that cut it all off and set it on the ground. So, and you got a good idea about that ADA
compliant. I mean, well, look at the locker. They had a thing that's that high and they got it ramped. Yep. Yeah. So, uh, chances are ramping it would be cheaper than lowering it, but then you still got the cost of
keeping the decking in shape. Anything else? Well, that railing ain't up to code anymore either. Pardon? That railing needs to Oh, yeah. redone. There's Well, it's been there since 98 and it hasn't had much done to it. So, I
guess that Can you just get us more numbers? Yeah, I'll try I'll try to throw together numbers. I question kind of in general on the engineer thing. Bolton Mink is engineer for public works
and utilities. What are we everything? Yeah, we Yeah. So, it would have kind of have to be them. Doesn't have to be them. No. Oh, okay. I got that on my list there. You know, we had that other individual here about engineering. Did anybody give that much thought
process? I was thinking we should revisit that some sometime soon too, but that's an option and get their opinion on the bell tower. Yeah, that guy gave a good presentation that
he they're here for smaller towns. Myself and uh Jeff Jeff will probably watch his video, but Bolton and Mink are made for big towns. You know, if these people come in and they're small,
help us out, find us avenues, they are now working with Amboy to fix their water issues. Oh, really? Who did they have prior? Oh, it's three initials, but I don't know what they were. Oh, okay. I I know who that ISG. No, it was it
I think that could There you go. The ones that did our pond way back. Remember what troubles we had? Yes. Yep. So I mean can we uh change uh engineering firms during midyear? Why not?
My understanding is you can you want there is no large project you know if we had a big project then you'd have to revisit that but my understanding is you can pretty much do it whenever you want and he he said he'd give them the notice for us. We wouldn't
correct. Yeah. Replace. It's just it'd be a good Well, because it's this is something really out of the norm for anybody, right? So, it' be a good test for us to see what kind of service and what they come up with, right? And see if there's and they talk about how much funding
they can get and where their avenues and their bulldogs with that. So, let's see what happens. The shot. I mean, I don't have a problem with it. I like the fact that he said we could contact him as many times as we needed and there was no charge per email, per call, per Yeah, I keep getting bills from ultimate
make. It's a little ridiculous. One thing on funding, especially if we make it into a veterans park, uh there's a grant that went out last year. I don't I assume it'll be there again this year if there's a money for it, but about 110,000 throughout the state of
Minnesota for veterans parks. So that's something we could look at applying for. Yeah, we we need to have the conversation with the American Legion yet, too. So, you know, I I brought it up to a few of them. They said they their fundings are little to nothing.
Sure. So, but I think that was like a November December time frame for applying for that grant. And I mean we it probably would be not needs our share of it but well when the hedge disappeared we found
out we have issues right prior to that nobody looked under there or nothing. So you know this is the game plan. This probably won't happen this year anymore. You know it we can put it all in. We can engineer over here. This is be 2026.
Spring of 2026. This is what we plan to do. just like, you know, we should have had a little more foresight with our patching streets last year, but we're still learning. So, I'm already done if that's enough of Is that all?
Yes. Okay, then we got a Brian Severns here with water sewer update. Do you want to get the building? Yeah. And we got that right here, too. And to talk or unless you want to talk first.
That's your floor. Have at her. Don't want to interrupt you. Said a couple of things. Um, one thing in your package, I think Sue included an email that I sent to the the three cities that I work for and explaining the situation with my second
quarter sampling for our water where we test for uh bacteria, caplin bacteria. So the department of health requires us to do a quarterly testing on on uh for backpor
and uh I did our February testing first quarter testing in February second quarter testing I did on March 28th technically not between April
July between April and July 1st two days early. I took the samples two days early, took them to the lab because I combined them with our wastewater influence sampling that I also have to do in March. So to save trips to the lab going to New six different times, um I
did it all on March 28th. So I got a call from the lady at the MPCA and she said, "You haven't done any second quarter sampling for the three cities you worked for." I go, "Yes, I did." "No, I'm not showing any samples." And uh no I did. Did you call the lab? I
called them and they're not showing any either. I said that's weird. I said well look at my fluoride samples I sent them because I sent them the same day I dropped them off at the lab. They looked that up. She go oh I see it now. Yeah you did April 28th but you were two days early. So technically no sampling was
done in second quarter. So nothing becomes of that. I just want to get ahead of it because for the compliance issue, there has to be a public notification. But to satisfy that, they're going to add one sentence in next year's consumer
confidence report that said in second quarter 20 25, no sampling was done. We were out of compliance because it was done early. And you did it on the 28th, which is a Friday.
Yes. So the lab had to get it on the uh 31st. Yeah. Well, they got it on Friday and then they test it and then they Okay. So in reality one and a half business days almost. Exactly. And they couldn't move that in. I said, "Why can't you just put that as paper
first?" Well, we technically can't because a lot of the older people at the Department of Health and the MPCA like me and stuff, we're starting to retire and they've got new people in there and they're really rigid and really, you know, um well, anyway, it's no big deal. There's no public health situation or anything like
hazard. No, but if I don't mention it now, next year when the CCR comes out and that sentence is in there, everybody's going to go, "Oh god, that Brian, you know, he was a go-getter who did it two days early. He was too conservative. He combined it
all in. Yeah. So anyway, it's all just a bunch of nothing. So, two days early is better than two days late. Then I brought this uh information for you guys because I know you like to hear good news, too. Uh so, you know, the big project that you guys did uh replacing
the uh sewer collection uh over here behind Dick's locker and up that way. Um has made a significant improvement on our ini. I just got a couple of numbers I'll rattle off here for you. Um these are years with Junes. These are all
Junes. Uh June 2016, 2019, 2020, and 2025. 2022 and 25. Um all months with similar rainfall, 5 in, 5.22 in, and 4.7 in. And the other one was 2.08 in. But anyway,
regardless, um, in 2025, that June, we averaged this this this one 46,000 gallons a day for a total of 1.37 million gallons in the month of June. Right. Our pond wet weather design is
82,000 gallons. So, we're at half of what our design is, maximum design. So, we're doing really well. Um, in 2022 with only two inches of rain, we averaged 63,000 gallons per day and
almost two million gallons for the month with only two inches of rain. Um, in 2019, we had 5.22 inches of rain. We averaged 124,000 gallons a day or a monthly total of 3.73 million gallons.
And then one more, 2016, we had 4.7 inches of rain. We average 96,000 gallons a day for 2.88 million. So to go from 3.73 million down to 1.3 um that's 2 million gallons uh in a
month's time. So it's making the ponds more manageable and we're holding that water longer. We're making old water like we're supposed to do. And the phosphorus addition has been working perfectly. So for the first discharge that I did this spring, it was less than
one part per million phosphorus. And for the second discharge, it was two and the second sample was 2.5 parts per million. So that's right down there. So we've uh our phosphorus limit is 227 kilograms per year and we're at 57. And I'll be
doing one more discharge probably this fall. Um probably no more unless we have a whole really bad rain, you know, situation. But uh things are really looking good and it's really easy to manage. So between the water meters where he's him and Ray and myself are
detecting leaks right away and solving them and the INI projects that you've already done. So there is there is still INI. If I compared those numbers to what my what I pump out of the ground, we're still a little lopsided, but so are the other two towns I work for. They're both the same situation.
You never get it all. But as long as we keep looking for like the project he's looking for replacing that chimney for that manhole down there, the old brick one. Anytime you got a chance to do something like that, that's a that's a plus. We need to get Eli up to date on the one
out here on the west edge of town where they're I took them down there and field tile probably coming into that where it is and it's definitely something to watch. But um I haven't seen the two even 200,000gallon days when we have that we we had a couple rains where
flooded my driveway this spring and uh we had was almost two inches in a couple of days and I didn't get those big plugs of water coming in. Someday when we have a shorter meeting I'll bring my laptop and I'll hook it up and I'll show you some of the charts.
I'll just you it might be too much for you, but anyway, uh I've got this all documented on color charts and everything. So, um you can really see the difference as we've gone through the INI projects and the water meter project
and all that kind of stuff. It's just going down. And when I had my audit, Teresa Roth from the MPCA noticed that. She goes, "Wow, you guys really made some big differences out here." So that locker, that area behind the locker helped a lot though. You think? It did. I'm sure that had to have been a
part of it because that's the only really big thing that we've done. Yeah. And there's still a little bit more to that to do here. There is. Yeah, there is. So, thanks for spending the money because it was it was money well spent. Good to hear. What was our phosphorus before you started treating it?
Oh, on the effluent it' be like four or five parts per million, six parts per million. You know, triple what it is was in this last one. in transferring water over this summer. I do it in small batches like I'll run the pump for a day or two and then I'll let it rest for a
few days. I am adding phosphorus everything do that now. So we just got two totes of phos. We had two totes of feric chloride. I don't know what they build this for. 4900. Yeah, it's expensive. It's expensive treatment. So how long did that last? Not very long.
Oh, really? Um, we had the tank filled last fall and then I had two more totes brought this summer and it's down to about there. So, we'll probably need couple two, three more totes. So, it probably be another 5,000 this fall. So, it would cost 10 $12,000 or $1,000 a
month if you figured it that way. Yeah. But, uh, the alternative is perman. Yeah. But you said you were dropping our numbers by third. Yes. rate. So, it's money well spent.
It is. Yeah. So, and then you can get into the building here proposal you got. There'll be a little more money for it, but yeah. Uh I guess it's well worth here last week and sat down with me and
Eli and we kind of went through that and we also met at the ponds about I don't know six weeks ago. I talked about the project of what what made sense to do and investigated that confined space
um the level above the tank that the rope has to be for rescue if you have a would be dumb enough to go in there and um and things like that. of what we came up with, what you have there, and it seems like a pretty pretty decent
design. Is it lined on the inside, too? Those guys on the also Um the venting going to have too. So you'll be able to try that out and then there's going to be a rough vent
to build that out is there will also be stopped venting. So there'll be some intake and airflow exchange in that confinement as well. Um so that's kind of what we came up with after I spoke with the engineer also. They want to do translucent panels, add some additional
light around there, so you guys aren't having to use power down there as much. Um, there's going to be a service door and then a roll left door so you can be able to get in there and rebuild the tank with relative ease. Yeah. What the only question I thought of when after you left that day was if
the service door will be wide enough, we have to measure that tank diameter to make sure that if it did fail in the future that we could slide it out and slide a new one in there. Um, so the the rollup door that we have that that'll be able to that's wide enough to be able to accommodate bringing that tank in and
out with that kind of equipment. That's important just in case. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing lasts forever, but it'll never be heated, right? Thank you. Thank you. There's no point. I
mean, doesn't need to be heated. That face is only occupied for short periods. the five minutes to turn the pumps on and off during the transfer of water throughout the summer and then for uh the big discharges where we run for
seven or eight days straight. Um otherwise it just sits there. The way we had Lander set it up was basically it would enable the electrical panel, the pumps and the tank. Plus we would have a little extra storage for uh like like
storing some of your supplies that you use down there. sampling equipment gloves. Yeah, it would be all cemented out inside once it's built, right? We could do that later. Yeah, I don't think it's that's part of his the
one one concern we had with that was with the electrical panel being in there and if we had to run anything additional in or out of that electrical panel um at the time that was brought up. Yeah, concrete would be nice, but not
have to beat concrete up to wire. You can walk around on gravel. That's what we're doing now. I mean, but you know, you could concrete it in a year a year later or whatever to have it a finished product. The only thing is you'd want to have it so your doors
would be at the right height. Mhm. And everything if you spended it. And this is big enough to the point where you could bring in chemical in bulk rather than in now. Yeah. Say it's cheaper in the long run to bring it bulk than bring it in totes.
Well, what he does, it's called mini bulking. He comes down with his big Hawkins truck and he carries six or eight totes of chemical and then he puts a pump in the tote and pumps it into ours and puts it in the other tote and pumps it into ours. Same thing we did down there. We don't actually physically unload the
tote. Okay. We're required to have some sort of a roof, correct? What? What? Oh, yeah. At a minimum, I think the MPCA said we had to have a minimum of a roof over that tank to prevent rain.
Yeah. How long would it take cons to construct? Um, weather per one to two week, you know. I mean, yeah. I mean, just kind of locating some of the electrical out there, any of the the
plumbing, anything underneath ground. I'm not exactly sure that's ran a kind of, you know, we have to offset or something like that. And then also, so I mean, I'm not sure what the the water table is down there. So, it's either one or two options. either bury the pools or, you
know, we would do concrete, you know, castings and then we would just whip build that above grade just just above touch and then we could secure the pools with brackets above the grade level. So, I'm not 100% sure how you guys would like it. I mean, one way or another,
there's still going to be it'll be structurally down. It's not that large of a building. Um, but those are the two options that we kind of went around. Um, I don't think that right now I have it where we're gonna put those in the ground treated are in the ground. I mean, the only time
you have an issue with bot is that the first set of stitches, you know, kind of where the grid is. Um, as long as you're keeping that clean, get water out of there. It's not really something that you don't have to worry about anytime soon. Drop some brackets. Then we could attach
holes there. So if you for ever to remove that, say someone drives a tractor or a truck trying to dig one out and put it next to it. So either one of those options, we could go with Okay. I just I'm just down here to see if if
anyone has any questions, I can certainly answer that. Would it be better off if we just dug a 4ft frost footing all the way around and set it on spent frost footing? We can certainly do that. Um I mean would it be
since we already have that pad down there now? Um are we going to have conflicting with the freeze and the thaw since it isn't going to be heated? How how would that all worked? I wonder you know the building you would be down to frost
footings too right? Correct. Yes. Now like down there. Yeah. So the building does not um but yeah again it's like I don't know what the water table's like down there you know what the frosting situation
would be but as long as you know that pad's going to move separately. Yeah. So I mean I'm not really worried about anything conflicting in that scenario or be uh cement it out right away. So we're done.
I mean, but you aren't talking about what five yards of cement to cement that out down there. What? I'd have to Well, putting to be more that. So, yeah, it's going to increase the price. Yep. Said they're fine with gravel.
If you wanted to go that that option, I certainly, you know, get some stuff together for you. But, you know, you were just thinking they already got on top of that. But you're not using it enough to right necessarily want to finish.
It's not occupied space. It's just you go in there and turn it on and go back out. As far as them meters that are in there, Brian, you know, you took them up and put them in the city shop, right? No. Or I mean during the winter you did.
I did. Yeah. I found out there's a way around that where you don't have to remove them is there's just a button you push and it retracts the rollers and it doesn't sit there on on the tube and squeeze it. So, okay, they could technically be left out there. So, high humidity, moisture
shouldn't bother them things since it's not going to be a heated building or anything. They're meant for outdoor use. Yeah, they are. Okay. Uh because we spent quite a little money for them already. They're expensive PS. Yes. So, if you come back later and you say,
"Hey, we really wish we would." We can do it later, too. Yeah. Anybody else with thoughts on cementing it out or putting a frost footing in it or using the poles as footing and still fmenting it out or leave it as gravel?
What would the rollup door come down on then? Just gravel. Yes. I mean, would we have uh any rodents trying to dig in underneath there? I could probably put some kind of plate along there, like a steel plate, like kind of like a threshold on a door,
something like that. Way more cost effective than or I mean door to pour a small apron just in front of that tank potentially. One one of those two. But yeah, I mean we could we could get something for it to close down, secure,
but Right. When you're talking U posts, is that a 4x4, 6x6, 8 by8? We talked it all through. They're 6x6. 6x sixes. And then you said the only type is where it's at. The first six inches of
essentially it's all ground pressuret treated lumber. So anything like that's actually buried underneath like grade. As long as it's not exposed to like the elements like that, it's it's not going to deteriorate. 30 30 year minimum.
Yeah. I mean, you're looking 30 40 years before you're gonna have a problem with those posts. The I was referencing is like, you know, if your delivery guys down there backing up a truck and accidentally dings one of the corners, if we were to break a pole, it's going
to be a lot easier to replace that pole if it's above grade um that if we had that below grade and having to dig that out and then race back into that. Um, so I mean th those two options are kind of where we're at. I mean I think stronger
if you sink the poles down just because you don't have that pivot point above grade. Um, so I mean but it's still again it's not a big enough building to have that a huge factor. I don't 6x6 post would take
quite a beating before it would that's all engineered. I mean like they're strong. Any other questions? Want to go for it? I would say yeah, we should make a motion then to approve. Make a motion to approve Midwest
construction for the building at the times. All right. Some second. I'll second it. All in favor say I. I oppose. Motion carried. All right. Thank you. Yep. Yeah. All the contacts information is
there would like be to look at kind of like a sill kind of plate for the door. Um yeah, like the service door is going to have that, but you know where the the rolling door would come down. That'd be something we revisit. That's not a huge
price factor. But any other questions? You know, feel free to give me a call anytime. I mean, we just live right outside of town. So, all righty. Yeah. Thank you. Anything else, Brian? Uh, no, not at all. I just
Thank you. Good job. All right. 20 unfinished business is a 2026 budget workshop schedule. We usually do that sometime in August, right? Yes. And when would you prefer it, Sue? Anytime. Or
It doesn't matter to me. Saturday, Sunday work. Oh, no. Monday through Friday. Just checking. Monday through Thursday. Our meeting would be 11th of August. Do we want to have it before that meeting or
sometime after our regular meeting the following Monday? Suggestions? Anybody? I'm fine with before. When? I'm fine with before the meeting. Before You mean before the regular meeting? The same day? Yeah. Before? Uh boy, they it kind of gets a little lengthy though, right?
Yeah, that'd be that could become very long. It could be a longer. We don't do it line item like we did originally. I mean, we went through this every one of them line items. We went through
and they had 5,500 and only spent 3,000 or 300. We could lower that. You know, we aren't doing that. No. But the first one's just kind of to get an idea. I mean, you know, what your plans are, what you want to see done next year, and kind of where we're at. How about the 18th then?
That's the following Monday. Monday's a would be a good day, wouldn't it? No, it's fine. Okay. So, you want to make that motion that What time you want to do that like at a 5:00 meeting or that work for people? Yeah. Yeah. Works for me. We could do 5:30 too for
like because I'm sure you come from Mano and George can make five o'clock work. Okay. All right. Five. So, regular meeting you said was on what date? 11th. The 11th. August 11th. This one will be the 18th and the special meeting will be August 18th. Somebody want to make that a motion then
to have that on the 18th at 5 was it? 5 p.m. I'll make that a motion. Someone to second. Second. All in favor? I oppose it. Motion carried. New business resolution 2025-08
setting fee schedules. I think you did. You hate it. No, trees. We could save trees. as well. That's laptops if you want to get into that.
Fine. We want do we want to set these tonight or should we or No, let's we can do that in the budget meeting. That's what I was I'll say. You can't set it in the budget meeting. You can discuss but you can't make the resolution. Resolution has to be done at
a public or at a council meeting. The workshop is just strictly workshop. No businesses. You're right. Right. So, we'd have to discuss it. Otherwise, it'll be way in September before Well, you can talk about it at our budget. You could do it in August.
Could do it at the August council meeting. Yes. If you wanted to and then we wouldn't be sending any There wouldn't be any fines assessed to any of the ordinance violations until that time. Can you send out the violations without
the Yes. Yeah. The first letter is yes. Lots of thoughts on that. Budget meetings after she said September's okay. No, we could do it. We could do it a regular August council
meeting. We could um because yeah, the resolute the what I had in the resolution is setting it for $50 for the first defense and $100 for the second. You guys kind of talked about that at the July meeting which also follows Mapleton's.
So that's all that would be. Or is that part of the fee? Do you have to can you do that part of the fee schedule or do you have resolution everything? Yes. No, you could do it. You can just do it individually. You can do any other resolutions. We got that. So we've talked that till
we're blue in the face. Can we okay that and act on that? Get that far to at least rolling. Yeah. Make it a motion. Make a motion. I'll make it a motion. Let's get this going. Jim, made a motion. I'm a second.
Do you want to read the motion, please? There's no confusion on what motion you're making. Uh to set the fee schedule for uh is there numbers I got to find or what's just the resolution 2025-08? This one right there. Resolution.
Resolution 2025-08. Setting the fee schedule. I will make that resolution. 50 and 100 as stated. Thank you. Jim made that a motion. Someone to second. I'll second it. All in favor say I.
I. I. Oppos. Motion carried. All right. Um Minnesota Valley. Dude, when are you going to get your business in here? Right now. You're doing nine. You're doing a really good job. You're doing mine. So, just
keep going. That's fine. You got to have more than this. That's more. It's fine. Um, elected officials, I suppose that's for really early for next year, right? No, it's for this year. So, we've been working on with our COG meetings that we
have every other month, I believe, I think, or monthly, whatever it is. Um, we've been working on trying to get something put together for new elected officials just to kind of give them so they kind of so you kind of know what to expect, what's going on, how meetings are held. Um, that type of process. Um,
so we finally Victoria finally got that together and that's what that is. It's an invitation as long as we're members of COG. It's free. Oh, okay. Okay. And we'll be going to that as well. So, it'd be nice be great if we had some of our
council. I'll try I'll try to attend. Be curious. You see, is there August 6th? What is that? That's a August 6th. Um I don't know. It's a Wednesday. Wednesday. I will
um we talked about having food, but I don't think there will be. Is it It would say on there. You remind me. I will try to get my So, I will send reminders to Jim and John and Amy. I'm in Rochester that day. Well, I'm sure we could probably get it.
Um, it might be out like on a webinar or something. You could just watch it. Well, you go for it while you're, you know, waiting in your truck or something. I'm getting my injection. There you go. All righty. Um, new,
we're under new business right now. Yes. Um we don't you don't have the um building permits on this agenda. Do we want to put that under? Yeah. Correct. We did this agenda like four times. Let me just give them There's only the one, right?
Well, the one is the removal of the house. We can act. Any questions on either one of those uh building fronts? No. Looks like Eli has signed off on it. Everything good, Eli? Yeah. Yeah. The uh Thomas Abbott one was
basically existing or adding a second side to fences between him and the post office and a little bit of a concrete patio and stuff within the setback. So, um and then the Chris Hanky was obviously just that uh to get the
removal of the house recorded. So, yeah. All right. So, I'm going make a motion to approve these two building permits. Both of these are GT09-25. Those one should be 10, right? The number. Yes. Um Hanks is 10. Hanks is 10.
Yep. Yeah. I'll make a motion to approve building permit GT0925 and 1025. John made a motion. Someone to second. I'll second me. All in favor say I. I. Motion carried.
Okay. Anything from you Sue then at all? Um we do have national coming out August 5th. So if council um last year Amy and I tackled it um we just we did hot dogs.
Amy and I kind of talked a little bit about it. We're kind of planning on doing the same thing as last year. Um if council would Andy Andy came too. Andy was there most of the time. Hagen. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hagen and then the fire department. Yep. Um we can do it on different nights, too. I mean, Mapleton
is doing theirs on a Thursday, but if we want to keep it on, um the 5th, we certainly can. Last year, council um donated $500 towards it, and we were just a little hair over with the bounce house. Did you ever get a hold of her with that?
I didn't. I didn't get a call back yet. Okay. private appointment. Well, somebody want we need to make it 600 or it's whatever council is, you know, wants to do if they wanted, you know, whatever.
We did have a good turnout. The bouncy house did attract people from, you know, they could see it blocked away. So, I did hear from somebody um that they were they had talked about maybe they would like to contribute or do something on that group. So, I have waiting to hear back if they really want to, if they're really going to or not. We'll find out. And if they do, that's just a
bonus. So, somebody want to put a number on it and make a motion. Do we need to put it $ 650 or six? Probably 600 should do it. 600 should do it. I'll make the motion to
supply $600 for national night out events April 5th. All right. Jim made a motion. Someone in a second. I'll second. All in favor say I. I. Motion carried. And if we could get council to come out, that'd be awesome. Last year we had I
think it was just Amy. I was there. You were out there. Scott was there. I was gone. I wasn't on council. You weren't on council. So you got a free pass this year. I expect you there. All right. Yes. Mom. Take away my birthday. Thank you. We were drinking beer.
All right. Yeah. So, all right. Um, and then I've got three mileage reimbursements. One for Brian, um, one for Pette for the flowers that she contributes that she does for the city, and then for mine. Yeah. Somebody make a motion to approve all those.
I will make a motion to approve those three reimbursements. Someone to second. Second. All in favor say I. I oppose. Motion carried. I had a couple things on our new business here. Uh Mike Drummer called me today. Oh, nice.
And uh he's he wants to go, but when he attained this building, the interest rate was 3%. And right now it's seven and he's talking about a, you know, a couple million dollar renovation here that he would really
um like to get it down to five. He said five is doable. So I called that Yorren Olsen, you know, our representative to see if there was any money that possibly
the state would cheaper interest rate, but he didn't return my phone call. I figured he would. And then I tried uh Mike Odard at Community Bank, you know, because that's quite a loan to see if they could do better. And that one
didn't call me back. So, um, do you know, Sue, is there any place we could go to as a city to get financing like that? I mean, we would almost be the backers if we obtained a loan. Say
we got a loan for 5%. And we loaned it to him. Is that something we'd ever want to get involved in? I'm sure. I knew John would be shaking his head because we are the we are the holders then of that loan. Yep. That's getting us it's no different than what we just did last month. Yeah.
You know, getting the only thing is you got to look at it. It would be because if drummer if something happened and drummer backed out then we're we're Yep. I know that. I Yeah, I gave that thought. drummers dealt with a lot of banks. He knows Oh, yeah. He knows what he can.
He would have more connections, I would think, than we do. But if that yarn Olsson came with something with the state, I mean, is there any way that this as a city we can say, "Yeah, we want this to happen for
our city to get along." I can't see where he's going to have any help either because because Drummer is an outside he's a he's a a civilian company or not uh contractor whatever um
it's to hold up for a lot of a lot of in enough stuff where there shouldn't be an issue with I mean yeah it's a lot of money but he's just holding the reigns back for that 2% he's just a lot playing the game is all he's doing right
now just trying to hold that One biker said, you know, it might go down a percent or a quarter of a percent this year, maybe a half by the end of year, but then they're looking at it going down more next year. Right. Exactly. So, you know, but I hate to see it just sit down there because there's been some
vandalism. There has been kids inside now. I did forgot to tell that guy that was sitting there that they need they were on the roof now and they broke the uh skylight into the library area. serious kids got inside the school so they need to control that
down there and sign up on put cameras. Yeah, they do. Should be responsible for camera cameras down there. Are they live? Don't know why you got if you've got that kind of mean stuff.
He's responsible for his property. So Oh, he can't just like anything else. Can't stand back and see that building go to disarray. If they call you back, Robert, let us know. Yeah. Then
we going to switch then to the mother engineers then or that was on my other list of things that see that's where I was talking about. Let's give them that test run on the um bell tower. Bell Tower. The only reservation that I had about BIC engineering is the whether or not they've ever engineered a project like
the water plant you guys want to put in. They may not have staff with the expertise for that big of a project with that technical knowledge that you need on whether to put in an RO with membrane technology or dual media filters or
whatever. If they're that small of a company, like you said, they probably would have to farm that out. Or who's, you know, maybe if you guys do get that money from the government for that project, maybe then you we can shop for it. Maybe it's not Bolton Bank, but shop
for somebody that has built wasn't the answer for Amboy. They bumbled that up so bad. But another company I'm I'm saying Balig may not even have theertise SE had for Amboy project
maybe not Bolton bank either but there are engineering firms that specialize in water treatment technology so when those funds come available as long as we can shop for who's the right person for that particular project. Yeah. And I wouldn't care if you went
with Bali for your streets and everything else. But did you ever contact them? Because I sent you their contact number. The um president of Bali because I had sent your concern. I talked to him when he was here. No. Oh, I sent you his number for the actually the owner of Bali. Yeah.
Um because when I had I had um emailed your concerns over to Brandon and then he called and he suggested he gave me some numbers and then I forwarded them on to you. I don't know if you ever contacted him. Well, let's still move forward with using them on the bell tower, whatever.
But I would I would agree. I think once once if we get the money um even because I don't know what Bolton and Mink I don't know what kind of experience they have when in designing something like that because if we're going to spend 10 million, we're going to damn sure make sure it's correct.
A product that works when it's done, not the game boys. Yeah, that's the thing. cuz they did uh RO RORO and that hasn't been working at all. Right. People are complaining of brown water. And why is that? Because it's taking that
stuff on the inside of the pipes. Unless you remmineralize it after you take out all the bad minerals if you don't remmineralize it. It's called hungry water. When you put it in cast iron distribution piping, it leeches the rust and iron back into it. It's pulling
it's trying to pull the chemicals back in. And so when you've got infrastructure as old as theirs down there and ours here, um there's a lot of rust pull that iron into the water and anywhere where it sits, any dead ends, any low water areas of town when they
turn their taps on, they'll get rusty water. So it's Yeah, we'll make sure we do it right. Yeah, we got to make sure we do right. Maybe we can The other thing that I wanted to mention now, I'm not taking you off another road
here, but if we don't get that funding, there are some essential things we need to fix over there. Um the long pipe that runs down the hallway from the well to the filter, those two pipes, if you look at the bottom side, they're severely corroded. I'm worried that at some point they're going to spring a leak. Um, we
should probably look at if we don't get the money, maybe this winter, have Javitz Mechanical come and replace those two pipes and the chlorine injection um, fitting. So, because it's it's it's bad. If you don't go in there and take a look at the bottom of those pipes, would we ever replace them with
stainless steel? That's what we did with that one short pipe. Or, you know, I know it's probably triple the cost. Yeah, we could. I mean, yeah, you would. Chlorine one should be, right? No, actually chlorine and stainless don't go together. Yeah. Oh, really? Usually use scheduleul 80 PVC, but um
the way them pipes slap around in there. I think schedule 80 is going to work. You know, it's uh because of the shutdown. Well, of course with that soft start, it shouldn't be too bad. Should little soft start on anything over there. They bought that they bought that soft start back way back years ago for
the high service pump. Yeah. and it never worked because the pump wasn't comp the motor wasn't compatible to run with a soft start. So, it's been running. It worked with that first big giant motor we had in there, but when the next motor came, that wasn't compatible with
the soft start. So, that doesn't that's not what's slapping the pipe. It's the well pump and that comes on and off. Slams off. That's pumping 425 gallons a minute. And there's water hammer and that check valve goes wham and then the pipe goes cuz it's not fastened to anything up in
the up in the filter anymore. I mean I'm saying if we don't get that if we don't get that bonding bill um there's some stuff that has to get fixed. Yeah. Chances are of us getting that is slim. Yeah. At least for the next couple years I would think. Yeah. We can limp it along for a while
more but the filter is working great. The filter itself is working, but piping it's going to need some I guess that bulock, right? That I mean, I don't know what they can't remember what they had in their
brochure, but um again, yeah, we need to make sure that they could handle something like that. But, uh I was kind of impressed with the way they that guy presented himself and their company that night. So, all right.
Well, anybody else got anything else? I'll make a motion to adjurnn. I think boy, you guys are in a hurry. It was made and second say I bam. Everybody say I opposed. Motion carried. Thanks everybody. Thank you.