okay we are all right first s is stand for pledge of allegiance and moment of silence I pledge aliance to the flag United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible
and justice for all right thanks everybody sorry for the 10 minute delay we're back on ready to rip uh approval of the agenda any additions uh to the agenda I got something down under on finish business little detail that we
might have have to follow through on if not somebody make a motion to approve I'll make a motion to approve the agenda to second I'll second it John made it Scott seconded all in favor say I motion carried approval of the minutes directions for the last meeting
there's no changes [Music] or Corrections uh so may make a motion to approve those approve from the previous meeting got made a motion some to second second Jim second it all in favor say I I oppose motion carried approval of bills we got checks 18378 28404 EFT 56
796 to 56 6811 uh that would be payroll and another payroll from 5151 to 5157 any questions on that or the bills no if not sobody make a motion to approve I'll make um a motion to approve the bills as presented John made it someone a second I'll second it Jim second all in
favor say I iOS Carri uh Community comment anybody wish to address the council I guess we could move on to Sheriff's Department we have 59 hours direct Patrol ambulance assist animal complaint welfare check suspicious person and a paper service any questions on that if not we can move on
to Fire Department chief clammer 5 calls five Medicals anything to add to that it all gotot the fire department nothing to add okay uh update truck sander we have a couple estimates here and got this morning from uh Chris field I didn't realize
they're this High you know conrete um so is this for the the old International Truck no this is for the the red one oh okay that you know we could put like a Red Rock in it to do the hills or we could put sand in it you know like a light snow like this have one unit doing both because otherwise right now you might have to run around with the you know the little truck and then go with the big one to sand it the nice feature of that one was you pull
one p you can swing that back the spreader to the side you could dump the sand salt mixture on the ground then you could close it up and then put Red Rock and use that when you're done go back to the pile open it up drop the Red Rock if you wanted to use S the next time it's just a nice feature as all just prices yeah I did not realize they're this High you know I we talked about it that maybe you know I thought maybe they could be about 8500
bucks I mean is it it isn't anything maybe we have to act on this year we got basically what five weeks of winter left could be tough five weeks there could be an easy five weeks do we just put this in the planning stage there is one thing that he mentioned when I talked to him this morning is that there's something called a 763 contract it's something with the state of Minnesota for municipalities and things when they buy things that actually ended January 31st for the the pricing for this whatever
the 763 contract is um if we were to act on one he would backdate the paperwork to January 31st um otherwise the price goes up um that's why there's two quotes there um one of them is he was going to send me two quotes and one is if we wanted to grab one now and the second price is if we weigh it oh okay that's right okay $500 difference yeah 10% I don't think
that price is crazy I don't think this price is crazy it isn't in this day and age but I was it surprised me I mean but never bought one I mean again we can get it now or get it next fall you know um you you never know in the next 30 days we could have some bad ice storms true you know this is one in and out right yeah it's
really nice pretty lightweight in and out is it can come out with a tractor with the forks on it right yeah yeah so I mean it's no problem lifting it in and out you know so we have have it um as far as storage you know we got a few pieces of equipment that could be stored down by the Lagoon you know it's not going to get hurt or wrecked but there is a motor on it though Brian right it has a to self-contained motor right has a controller
inside the cab yeah could maybe put that in the corner of the Lagoon someplace you know at least it was locked in to deter any Dage isn't there enough room on the cold side it would but like Brian says it fills up pretty fast when you start putting you know but that box uh greater that could leave uh there's a few things that could uh could leave uh one thing that could
set this cost is we have a PTO driven generator three phase that ran the lagoons yeah I have no idea what's worth we could sell that use that pay for some of this you know is this something they have in stock where add one I think so yeah so it' be just a matter of any wiring that needs to be done to it I would assume for probably all
remote a't it yeah yeah like tomorrow morning now is it still snowing out or yeah it's a little bit D you know tomorrow morning now it would be kind of Handy it really would be kind of handy so not for me it's for the next guy I you know it's not that I'm asking for it but I agree it' be super handy got any comments on it no I can see where it
would be a you know a good ition to we'd be able to use it pretty much to do the whole town right yeah yeah yeah CU that Senter on the big truck I know it's been well like it's owner weight is kind of cobbled together um you could like he says you can dump it quick and go to Red Rock if you wanted to do the hills because you don't really want sand on them with chloride because it madees a gravel mushy so you could you know you
could really switch out product pretty fast uh we did have the other truck over there getting fixed too and the piece that was broken was replaced but now they found out that it's a controller uh when Brian and I picked it up they didn't know if we wanted to spend more money to get it operation said well we already spent on one end we might as well get it operational right we'll have it operational here as soon as they get that so currently we don't have a means of sanding at all yeah oh
that's challenging well we could manually try and do it we could get it sanded yeah yeah so it was just an idea I don't know if we want to act as a council tonight to do it there's no reason to wait but I mean again this is kind of spare of the- moment deal do we put it under planning and save money for we have money for it so the 14 for it I just get it why
don't you do that then go ahead with the idea of if we're not going to use that generator I mean if the the usage is so already been applied to a different Resource as well 14-day forecast so after tonight um chance of snow both Friday and Saturday both as I'm now 410 of an inch snow both days so been a very dry
winter again you know and that's lack of change between now and then with the weather but yeah and you know could this go up $1,200 by next year it very well could yeah you know hold on it's nice as it goes in and out affect the usage of the 450 for other usages yeah and that Pi up had one in it because the Ford got a little bit of hole where it wore so it
had one in it most of the life if if they have one on hand then it' be just a matter of driving to Lake Crystal they would load it probably I suppose they' drop it in then strap it down strap yeah however it's secured into the box I didn't ask him about that I didn't know you know how much to it was really quick getting quotes this morning I was happy I got them back by noon but uh um yeah if they had one I wouldn't imagine me too much to get it put
in yeah I don't know how they Wi-Fi or whatever from the cab to the thing nowadays or if there's a wire or how that goes I'd bet it's almost Wi-Fi is it I would think Wireless yeah or could to be an actual remote that there's it's that's got a motor we don't want to leave it just sitting outside espe it's remote clean some clean some stuff out of that cold storage that could sit outside you could cover the motor with a heavy duty garbage bag or two or three of them
you know take care of it outside whatever but we should be able to find room for it move some other things around any anybody opposed to the idea I guess that's a better idea I guess if the other truck is not operational yet we could have a need for it this weekend I don't think that price is
bad so I'm not opposed to it okay would somebody like to make a motion then to purchase I can make the motion to purchase it add to the street equipment SLE for the town they can get us at $500 disc well I'll second it Jim made it Amy second it all in favor say I I iOS motion carry call in the morning any yeah
anything else and Brian under uh you're part time Department right now no it's uh what I've been up to um I had the company come on and look at the ceiling and you guys can you have a copy like well for that you look at that this morning at 7:30 that or what but this is to get the off the ceiling in the shop I can do the walls with a prettyy tall extension ladder I got one the north side's done
just about and I'm just working my way around the ceiling's a different cat but these guys claim that they can come in and get it done real fast and it look nice when they're done well I stopped up there the other day and it is it's in good shape the whole shop it's good job Brian yeah thanks so you guys can talk that over if you want to have those guys do that he's very meticulous we've got corners and crevices cleaned out that hasn't been for many years he's awesome very
good at organizing uh it's going to be nice when we get somebody to take over it'll give it a nice hand off to the next guy and then it'll the expectation is there that that's how it looked and we'll maintain it going forward and the uh roof and I think sidewalls have been washed a little bit but the roof has never the ceiling has never been and it's kind of difficult so you know if you got some people that could do that maybe be
the time to get that done also I think that we should do that would you like to make that motion then you accept the bid from Midwest spray softw I'll make a motion to accept the bid from motion softwash get that down ASAP he you made a motion someone to second I'll second it Jim second it on in favor say iose you know and basically this is as a maintenance this is taking care of the interior of the yeah
it only makes sense if you already halfway through and get the sidewalls done it might as well be done and yes yeah you can see out the windows now too yeah it must feel good for even you to be in idea what else Brian um do you have a list of some equipment because I I told I I stopped in almost every morning but we had a floor jack been one and when you go to put the
big snow plow on that would be a very peny piece to have I just told him to make a list things that we need to be able to run that shop with a one guy you know um I read meters this morning so that that's done I've been trying to do it every Monday except last week we did it on Friday because she was the end of the month for her meter eatings no surprises just the two that are frozen and not working I did Reach Out to
the One customer on that end of town uh again asking if they had gotten a plumber yet or any progress towards that and I got no reply at all I copied Sue in on that text just so that there was two of us then I let the recipient know that I was copying Sue in too so neither one of those got to reply contact the landlord tomorrow and it's leaking before the meter so it doesn't cost them but it cost the city we're pumping water and it's going on the FL well then we can't read the meter yeah we can't even
read that met tell we can't read at this point yeah the meter needs to be replaced who was frozen and BR yeah that one broken Frozen we're not sure what the other issue is they claim the waters off at that property um but how do you know we we have no proof of that so there's they're getting a water bill um kind of an average of what they've been using I mean this has been it's been what
a month or so at at least that one on Chapel that we've had problems with it's over November I think wasn't it yeah actually I think the last time it actually read was no was it December 12 maybe is the one on Willard brother some yet because there was a plumber there uh Saturday on Willard OH the one that fro that one broke too right no or the meter was okay okay but it wasn't get to
the point it was freezing up he's froze okay yeah but yeah his yeah his meter's fine and I told when they got it unpl that he should wrap it with insulation and make sure that he Trac has turned on yeah but yeah we we caught that through the software that his meter was frozen and not working that that software is amazing I I can't say enough good things about it because um we found one two weeks ago I found one two weeks ago I did read the meters and there was a house that their usage went up to 2,000
gallons a day and uh so I notified the homeowner and they said yeah their toilet was running and then they had a hose burst outside and um so I talked to her through the weekend I just kept communicating all the time and got her to agree she she turned the spet off for toilet water supply and um Monday I went back and the flow went right down to normal again so she was going to turn it on to use the toilet and turn it off until the plumber could come and fix the uh flapper and stuff inside the toilet so being able
to read the meters and notify the homeowners right away you don't have that 2,000 gallons for two weeks it's literally days now if you read The Meters weekly it's really nice off there thanks for that it was a very large investment you know but it's going to pay for itself it is um I have Hawkins chemical coming Thursday to top off the chlorine in the wellhouse Wednesday I guess that's my last
thing is you'll in your packet in order to do my continuing education for the Wastewater license that I have Minnesota Wastewater operators Association has meetings quarterly throughout the sou we're in the Southeast section I'm a member it's the town is a member of the mwa they provide really cheap training you get six direct Wastewater training hours for this class and the cost is 20 bucks um other than your time and mileage um it's cheap training it's uh certified
by the mpca so that when I go in three years to turn in my 16 waste hour credits um discounts towards that so that's this Wednesday if you guys approve it and you can afford 20 bucks I'll I'll uh I'll go to that and that includes lunch for 20 bucks that's pretty good so you got a good job yeah I know maybe you want to go but uh they always cover some pretty good topics too that's why I put a copy of it in your packet you can read through and see what they're going to
discuss that day and um everything from safety to of it's great you know different different things so right here somebody want to make a motion to approve grind to attend I'll make the motion someone a second I'll second John made it Amy second all in favor I oppos motion carried will be gone Wednesday then to that and then Thursday be normal day and Friday too so will you be able to have the city phone with you hand it off
to I'll bring it you bring it I won't be here Wednesday either so no I'll bring it with is it possible for you to get a $20 check or do you just want to pay it I'll just pay and get reimbursed for the whole thing you don't you don't want me to drive the pickup all the way down there I can drive my car and to council but it makes more sense just to reimburse you for your mileage in the yeah 20 bucks yeah I don't mind I just turned it in yeah anything else inra no I don't think I have anything else it's everything's going pretty
good actually I'm actually really enjoying filling in and doing this job it's really fun so uh I hope uh I hope you guys find the right person and that I can take the knowledge that race nice enough to to give to me and then I'll pass out on to the next guy and we'll have a nice transition so good good with that being said one of my one of my things and I brought
this up before do we want to in time finish off that southide of that shop so we have ample places to work at least if you insulate it and tin it it would stay a lot warmer than what it is right now you know they give you a really a nice second spot to work in like Brian says when you drive the the bigger truck in the the one it really cuts down on the work area so you know is it just something that I think it's something we can
add to to this is on the list second go to the last one on your project list the cold side of City Hall I didn't have enough room to put everything oh okay yeah ins slate try to fix that all right well wouldn't that go hand in weren't we going to talk to contractors about this um yeah this is probably kind of a little winter job for somebody yet maybe you
know um so it's just something to keep in mind you know maybe during the summer here we can get somebody in there and uh you know get some estimates see what the cost would be get it even if it had a ceiling in it insulator would help a lot but sidewalls haven't got no insulation so but nothing else inra no I don't have anything again thank you for the way you have organized and cleaned it was
a well overdue project thank you um about your Wastewater sewer update got anything there no I don't really have anything in the winter time it's nice Nic over and and we're pumping water has really went down right yeah we we're pumping probably 32,000 gallons a day from the wellhouse to on average are you receiving that much yeah same or just lately last yeah yeah yeah it's
been really nice and the lagoons are very low right M well half full each half full half and 2/3 all right okay nothing else in uh unfinished business Kellen is here with archery Park repairs and FMA funds just to give you guys a little bit of an update um we last visited this subject matter um because of the flooding damage that was done to the roadway down to the compost
site the archery range also uh met some of the criteria for FEMA to get some damages repaired or replaced down there well it was quite an adventure dealing with FEMA not ever doing that before it was enlightening Adventure not only for me but for Sue and whatnot anyways uh the results of the time I spent um getting quots getting prices and things that
were damaged and uh that met their uh replacement values anding sing the information to FEMA we wound up with a settlement of $ 6,762 62 what was that again joh 6,762 62
that is targets that is man hours for building new framework for the new targets um man hours for replacing um the shooting line um and a number of other things and in the labor when we gave them the labor for the repairs for all the things were was just more of an estimate and obviously the
material cost for the framework so on so forth that made up that $676 62 C we had we found out as we're doing into this adventure with FEMA um they had a minimum of $4,000 to file a claim so us being us green at this uh FEMA uh application uh we got a little guidance from some of their officers that were in attendance and with their help
we got a little creative on some of the things that we didn't know that we could include so we included as much as we possibly could there's even more that we could have included including our time Sue and I had discussions on the subject matter me bringing paperwork to her so she could follow to F also but because of the bureaucracy and all the everything that was involved with this said forget that fortunately but nonetheless still $676 a lot of money
that we didn't have before um before that we had two donations one from the city of good Thunder for $500 and then we had one from uh the Minnesota deer hunter Association for 500 and then with that said we had $130 70 in expenditures that was for ropes for the existing framework for the existing targets that were there um new bolts and new washers and stuff for the proposed venting that has going to be
good be put up between the composting site and the archery range for security reasons um we had purchased some of that stuff in advance but because of the issues of last year and getting into this FEMA thing we found out that we couldn't do any repairs down there until this was settled so which we did go ahead and do some repairs but that portion of the labor that portion of the cost could not be included into the FEMA plane
so we lost out on some but we had to get it up and running because people wanted to use it so with that said I still think that 6,700 is more than we ever thought about getting into this adventure so this brings me to this new thing the the new aspect of that archery range right now we have three of the old targets that we're going to rejuvenate with the monies for the items that
are going to need to get them back in operation including new frames uh new weather covers rubberized covers for the targets which is also included in the price of this FEMA Grant being covered by the FEMA Grant I should say um but then we also are going to acquire three brand new 4 foot by4 foot targets and two 36x 36 inch targets so we're going to have the total of six 4ot
by four foot targets and two the brand new industry uh targets and with that said there's a lot of money sitting out there just sitting out there 247 on the open ground that literally inated back in and dumping in the back of the truck and Away with a, Target so I've been looking at we tried to file for a mitigation portion of this female Grant which we were eventually denied and that was the purchase
of a container well uh 8T by 8 and 1/2t high by 20 foot long container so we could store our Targets in there when we're not using them anymore we'll set them out at the beginning of the Season we'll go through um hypothetically December sometime and then before the weather turns crappy on us we can take these targets put them inside of that uh storage container storage container I got a quote from uh uh Northland
container out of Coda um and that particular container has two doors access one on each end of it and that's it um and then they will deliver it for $2,600 unfortunately the sum of this of money I can't use for that because we were denied the mitigation for a container however kind of looking at some of the figures here um we still have 800 $69
in our fund that came from the city and came from the Minnesota deun Association and the estimated labor that FEMA is going to pay me to build these frames and to reskin the old targets um is uh about $700 in wages roughly that Fe is gonna I'm going to do it under the city the city is uh how do we
do that yeah City will City will reimburse me out of the FEMA grant for my hours and then I'm going to turn around and donate it back into the archery range so that gives us a balance of uh $1,569 to go towards the container or short $1,030 roughly uh for the remaining balance of the container um if things go all right we we could anticipate
another $500 coming from the Minnesota de Association again for the 2025 season so that lead roughly 50 or 58 some dollars or whatever so the question I have for the city is uh would the city would the city be willing to make up the difference of the purchase of that storage container so how much did you say the container was deliver 1,600 so that's so then it
becomes the cities it's not a rental it all is the cities the targets everything no no I mean no I mean the container we'd be buying it yes okay okay it would go on to the city correct okay and it would just be designated to the archery range just like the Thunder Valley Park and The Hilltop Park so on so forth which just another entity of the city enough room to get it in and out of there yep there's enough room and I'm kind of pushing this um
issue a little sooner than than waiting for spring just because the ground's froze right now we could easily drive the truck straight in there back it up I want to put it on the South fence line that separates the composting area and the archery Park but back it all the way up to the trees that's where I'd like to set it I'm going to secure the inside of the back set of doors so you can't get them open whatsoever except for from the inside so only have
to worry about the one side that faces West that's open to everything do you have any cameras down there or anything the city does not I have cameras yes they're not always down there um so I this past season and the season before I used my cameras and monitored not only the Archer range but I also monitor the composting site between some issues that had been happening down at composting site I we
race and I were able to determine who the people were and address it accordingly what does a trail cam cost a good one that you get a quality picture Sue and I were discussing this Pro this subject um there are cameras that are uh Sher controlled they have there's no wire there's no wiring no electrical needed for them there are solar panels and little batteries inside of them um they say they're a 5year battery battery
really and that is a camera that could be when we go to build this fence the first post in line right on the right hand side of the gate behind those concrete bunkers we put a taller post there then that would be mounted on the top of that post so it wouldn't be accessible and City could have that and uh Sue could actually monitor or the maintenance guy could monitor right from their offices cost camera
is right around about $350 um a hunting one is about $129 when I use for hunting that had down there um but this has its own solar panel everything in it and then there obviously there will be a monthly fee so if the city would donate a th000 bucks it would be enough to pay for the container and the camera the camera system I would say definitely if you're already putting 700 of your own money into it and other people
are donating to it I don't I think that's no brainer and that within light what has happened in the last couple years done we've had some issues down at the composting site will just give the city council eyes on what's actually happening down there would we uh that camera though would that just basically be watching your target area and that where you said it yeah so I mean can you include it to get into the composting p
they do make what they call PTZ pan tilt Zoom a camera that you could actually just like your doorbells at home you can use your solo your phone and you can adjust it you can turn it Zoom it in Zoom it out a little bit more on your monthly fee oh yeah is there a monthly fee with that one then what's that is there a monthly fee with that yes okay just like your cell phone um my cameras that I have cost me $12 a month for those cameras for this one
here um one of the manufacturers for the I have to research a little bit more but the one manufacturer that I looked into um they just said it was a a nominal fee for monthly activation and it's running off uh cellular service so we wouldn't have an issue with that because we have good cell service in this particular area us as a city would we ever have two of them down there one watching the archery and one watching the burn pile
so we can see what's getting delivered of that burn pile do it in real time well are they and you can do it in real time yes and then you know the city just pick up the monthly cost also because we've gotten some stuff that isn't supposed to be burnt there you know and uh if you get some very good ones you'd be able to pinpoint who it was and tell them come get your stuff back I think be nice to have a sign on the way in that's this area is under video surve he yly you know we get a lot of
brush that isn't city right sometimes we get outside country brush you know so I mean it would just be a good deterrent or good roof I say motion activated so if they were at the either at the archery or you know so you're looking at either you got a $1,000 is what you're saying so part of that ,000 is going to go towards the purchase of this container and the remaining balance will go towards the
surveillance issue however that is come into play so before that gets purchas I'll do some research and bring up a number of proposals so you the council can see okay this is how much money we got left over these are our options that way you guys can make your best informed decision then CU like our cement pile that's getting spread all over to you know we've offered an area to put cement you know because that's how the city needs to get it all out get it
recy but bricks in there now pardon somebody dropped off red bricks in there now so yeah I myself that as long as you're going to do it it' be an advantage of the city yeah having a little bit of surveillance on there burn pile also I'll I'll look into that then and then I'll get a hold of the Container company and let them know coordinate that aspect Sue got a hold of the um Auditors auditors and on how
we're going to handle this funding um so yeah the the money came to the city it's already in our account so instead of Kellen purchasing it and getting reimbursed the city will be purchas purchasing These funds with or purchasing be right in the check yes okay so he'll coordinate everything and then it'll go on to the expenses so you guys can see it and you'll have a separate line item yes that'll show Mark it whatever yeah it's already marked the beginning balance yeah yep and I can do a spreadsheet each month
like I gave you so yeah that helps out two different ways if I do it I'm going to get charge sales tax right whereas if the city does it we can bypass that part yeah yeah use of our money like you said sooner than later before spring even so way to secure that container you're not going to pick it up and carry it away well I'm float away in the flood well yeah I mean obviously we're going to have to do something with that aspect I mean some trees I think
you could probably it's not to go too far between the BM and the trees it may float over to the tree line but other than that it's it's going to take a hellacious amount of water to get well let's hope we don't have that problem again for at least 20 years yeah I'm looking more towards just the aspect of securing the stuff for the winter months so it doesn't continue to deteriorate because of the sunlight and to deter anybody from going down well you got some good money to replace stuff and make it better and us as a the city spend a little money and take care of
them yeah yeah I mean you look at the overall budget from where we started Ken and I and a couple other people when we first developed that down there with the city's approval um we've come a long ways in a actually fairly short period of time so I'd like to take advantage of to make that a better place for everybody who people are using it and for the city's investment yeah we appreciate that yeah you've got good start
on it you might as well update it and make it modern we could actually do this in two pieces right now do the get in motion for the container now and then if you bring back information on the cameras we could do those later because you're not going to actually doing any work down there till probably just the container is going to go in for time being yeah and then nothing will be done until spring or whatever yeah okay so yeah if we get more information on the cameras then we can do that one a later time sounds want to
make that motion effect John sure I'll make that a motion okay someone second I'll second Jim second all in favor say I you want to repeat the motion John so we don't have any issues online if there's a discrepancy in what was actually made motion for so this one is a motion for Kellen to purchase a container to store the city or the city but did I the city um to purchase a container to store the archery equipment during the
offseason which is all City equipment yes all belongs to the city all belongs to the city all step one of a two-step process there you go cameras is a step two what about the donation did you want to make that a motion as well uh yeah we better I mean do we need to wait until what coate what Kell's going to donate back mean no for the city donating money to help purchase the container the container
oh yeah that should be a motion too then huh do we need Recreation do we need to wait till we get K's uh the the cameras or can we do something contingence on uh the the container and if we just if we just cover the container right now the rest we can do later time Scott was just saying can't we run part of that out of parks and wreck is there a separate fund for that right than the city budget well you
have money well I mean the donation no like the container buy just buying the container outright you mean well I mean you said donate out of the cities of parks you taken um line came out of the parks yeah you can do that yeah sense of a park park did you get that clear than yeah I'll have to work with the Auditors on that because we're we're
actually covering the cost prior to donations in Kell's portion okay so yes or or the other option is the just donate the container minus would they have to even that's if the city buys actually yeah the city could just buy the container you don't have to donate it yeah you could just buy it yeah out of parks and yeah it would just out of the Parks and Recreation account so there wouldn't have
to be Kell and reimbursing anything probably better Avenue maybe so the city could do that instead of a thousand donation the city could just do that as well yeah by that or whatever building maintenance let me see yeah we can figure it out so should we amend the motion then yeah
City will donate the container with funds coming from the parks department right okay yeah repeat after [Laughter] me the motion on the floor is to for the city to purchase the container for Archer range from Parks and W fund recck fund and then it
will be donated to the archery bran that will hold all the equipment which is owned at the archery amended that to Second it second it again second it car another Insight on that container that also J on equip thought I was going right over um having that container down there
too also gives us the ability to accumulate and acquire material building materials for expansions and things like that too so it gives us a place to store the stock so whether it's not susceptible to thft or anything like that either so no I think uh that and having a camera that we could watch a little bit down there be a good asset to it all anything else no that's all I had for the time being
all right um spring clean up so in your packet I gave you the information I tried contacting ljy again um I did not get a hold of him but what he basically said is we could do it but it might be better to do it on a different not just weekend talked about setting it out on doing a Monday pickup dropping it off on Friday so they have the week to set it out in
the curb or to have it up at the shop for a couple days you know either one of those will work yeah maybe you should call them and ask them you know first Monday second Monday third Monday uh are any of them for or find the least busiest Monday and see if we should do that and would we do it once a month from April until September or would we do it every other month or may to well you were talking rotating doing a curbside one month and then the
drop off the next month you know but if they get if people get trained into having a curb side uhuh I don't think they'll take it up there but well if they want to get rid of their big stuff they're gonna have to because they're not going to take furniture down here at the curve it's kind of they won't take no furniture no it's going to have to be in bags okay all right the furniture and stuff will all have to go to the rolloff okay well the then we'd have to alternate it and if it doesn't work then maybe I mean you can try it a couple months and if it doesn't work then you may be re assess it and go well
you know tried yeah we tried and they're not using the curb the curb side they're putting the wrong stuff out so we're just whatever I I think it would help I really do and like I say maybe we ask them which which Monday yep you know maybe the third Monday is the this the least busiest one or whatever and like I say rotate it so they got a couch it can go up there yeah it'll sit outside the City Maintenance will have to pick it up
and throw it in the dumpster prob you have the open did they have it open one year where you could just walk in uh thought it did yeah I never went down there when is at the Ballpark no that was actually up here between the the swings open and you I thought it was down here that we were able to walk into jump stuff we actually had it up here between the city and the county okay two dumpsters there okay all I remember is about one of them is that we had two dumpsters and we had three three loads yeah
there was so much had a lot of stuff not from the city that's the problem depending on where you put it you know if you could put it somewhere where you could monitor it a little bit too if we put it in the southwest east corner of the city lot we had that camera right on the corner so then we're utilizing what's going on you know and another sign but I think there is a camera on the southwest corner of the building too I think but then that's County property there well no we own
that square there um we'd have to see but we can get it so it's being watched by video and a sign out stating that too yeah we'd have to get a sign that says for City residents only yeah and under surveillance yep and you know what if they just dump it by the dumpster and it cleaned up a yard and it takes City Maintenance 45 minutes or an hour and 15 minutes to put it all in the dumpster it might be worth it just might
be worth it there's that yep you know need a sheep to water but you can't make or drink it so is there a specific I mean if you want to do the curb side like on a Monday do you have any ideas of how you want to do the rollof does it really matter we just set it out there for a couple days well would we would we train them that you know may is side and June is dumpster City shop and every other it just switches I think I think it probably be
advisable if there's problems with other people using it that are not residents that if we did it on a Monday where they it's not there for all day Sunday all night Sunday night if we did it during the week give again give them the weekend to get their stuff together to dump off and then ljp can come back out the next morning and haul it away before it yeah there's stuff that shouldn't be in there and right or you know other stuff so would we have to get a cost I
mean it we know what it costs to get rid of it at the landfill but uh what the added cost was to be and bring a dumpster out go back to town come back another day later and pick it up do we have to figure this cost in all this before we do it or we just going to say do it it anyway but you can't just leave that one out there for a day because you got to give people time to get their stuff out get it out there and again if we keep it on either corner of the city shop there's C cameras there recording so
and you put on their residence only you know and make it big enough so they can see it and then you got Tommy Jones out in the country that brought in a whole bunch you can say hey man want to potentially staff it on a Saturday not by ljp because they it's part of their issue Yeah question though is in past history when you had an open dumpster without being manned like we did last year Delta Bal Diamond you have too many people bringing those special items that they had to buy tickets for computers TV just free Chuck
it into that have to buy that sticker for that day that's true that was reason why we did it last year down the ball diamond with it being manned so they could do the same thing curbside though if they have a cardboard box and they have a computer monitor in there nobody's going to look they're just going to throw it in there right right yeah if you did a curbside that way then yeah if it didn't have a sticker it gets left yeah if it's in a box en closed well or in a b I mean it there's
you're never going to hear all of that right on the curb stop that will be ljp's problem if they're right if they're going to agree to ad do it and somebody's got it in a box or a big bag if they're not checking that's on ljp not okay I would say I would say start with curb the curb side pickup um yeah maybe if we do a a dumpster day or whatever you want to call it we have it man but we wouldn't be able to do that often we'd have to
be able to do that one time probably you know what I mean like and you could you could do that do a one sat you know and maybe you have you know a City Maintenance or or somebody you know to man it versus having lgp because then it's a cost to have lgp Manet you could set it out there and ask lgp to pick it up at a certain time and have you know well yeah see what see what the cost would be yes probably yeah we can get a cost me for a dumpster
and then what other specific options they would suggest maybe [Music] um because it really would have to have the dumpster up there it should really be on the weekend because Friday Saturday and Sunday yeah you know you can't man it all three days no you won't man it but I mean but if if it's sitting within the or maybe camera that's got to help should deter I mean
you could just do that once too like Amy said just have the dumpster up there one weekend all summer you just get once or you can do it quarterly you can do coule and then have your downst quarterly would it be possible to do well that's what I'm going to do is just put a notice in the in the water bill just put a flyer in there would it be possible to roll one off in that unfinished part of the shed so we can close the door oh
you can St between the hours of this and this would it damaged the floor I mean there should be enough room we cleaned it out where they could put a roll off inside and then say you can drop it off from this time to this time Saturday this time to this time Sunday you know as far as damage to the floor you could easily resolve that with just laying plywood down yeah like some 3/4 inch plywood d off on out um it's a good idea um I don't know how feasible it is but will
they you wouldn't be able to have it to the endgate would be out to the door though you know the endgate would be inside on the wrong end so you know you got to carry a couch in oh let's just leave it outside you can still take that dumster and slide it or have it slid over to that dividing wall between the two areas and you can still drive back in with your pickup throw things out of your pick up into that
you're asking an awful lot Kellen suggestion ask I mean yeah but I like the idea of being Insight because then then you can close it down and that that prevents somebody coming at midnight throwing in their TVs their computers their you know that'll resolve all of that refrigerators air conditioners whatever just something to think we need we need cost for that's just yeah let's get some costs and okay
go from there all right um when we redo this area here you know if we ask uh Carpenter B and Carpenter a to come in and give a quote we have no spec sheet that we want a good fireproof door or we want a good entry door you know I was told by an individual that we have to a spec sheet so when Carpenter
a and Carpenter B come in they're bidding against the same spec ceiling tile is there a $7 sealed tile or an $18 sealed tile all we need a spec sheet so when we have two individuals that have the have a spec to go off of so who would create that well um you could have Kelvin was over here once and wrote up you know kind of an Testament he's from Vernon Lumber Vernon Lumber he can
create a spec sheet and he would ask us do you want to what kind of a-rated door you want you know or whatever I mean I'm no Carpenter either I didn't give that a thought but yes somebody could come in with a lot cheaper tile somebody could come in with $3 lights you know of course I'd be on electrician side but um he told me that we have to
have a spec sheet if you want good competitive pricing and have the same quality at time so thoughts on that just have them come over and write up us do it even if we because we got to have it to give move forward because I'm assuming we'll want to take the garage St out so we're going to have to reside yep just like this portion the the outside y um the new wall would we have crank out windows in that new area too just like the
probably never get open I don't know I don't either be enough light where we don't even need to worry about putting a window in over there oh maybe yeah there's a good idea too you maybe don't need another window in there you know cuz all we're going to do is extend it what is that about eight feet no probably 10 15t in it maybe okay probably roughly yeah 15 so yeah maybe we don't need a window three lights in there to light it up pretty well yeah I mean uh would it look uneven we have
window window window no window it doesn't doesn't matter yeah know it's not open now either though but it's a garage door so uh I don't know like the and then entrance door would have to be new but you want a good quality commercial no door to put in there where the garage door is that little red one oh the one by the pop machine oh would you have it in would you I suppose you yeah you
have to leave the door there yeah for [Music] um yeah yeah I might have to have a window just for aesthetic then you know it would look weird if you didn't have a window you'd have to have something at least it's 15 feet you put one oh we just put it so it matches this yes yeah you know aesthetically I don't know what a window cost couldn't tell you I have no idea L of money framing of it putting it in all added cost but it's dead space now get a starting point oh
yeah he can get us a specs for that yeah okay so do we have to put in a motion to have him come do that or I suppose we could make that a motion to allow K from Center L to come over and create a spec sheet for us so any Carpenters that come have identical stuff to B off of mix lot of sense yes I will I make that I'll make that motion all right Jim made it some in a second I'll second Amy second all
in favor say I iOS motion Carri uh deod Mark have information so to cot Mark the discovery was served there was no response um there should be getting an order um for a disclosure hopefully here in the next week or two they had 30 days um they didn't do anything so now we can compel them we can have the court compel them to um complete the order for Discovery or they
could be held in contempt I cannot believe that the state of Minnesota hasn't been down here about that fuel tank do they know oh yeah they know so but that's all we can do yep uh acting mayor we didn't decide this at the last meeting but uh John that be you I'm I'm I'm okay with that everybody
all right with that yeah do we need a motion to yes some me make a motion to have John as acting mayor I will make that motion someone to second second Scott Jim made it Scott seconded all in favor iose motion carried okay new business conditional offer City Maintenance John and Jim you guys are Personnel you met with an individual John yeah um so we had
three applicants that came in through Cog um two of the applications were incomplete um Victoria gave them opportunity I don't know a day or two to finish completing their packets they didn't so we ended up indiv interviewing one individual resume was very impressive I think well I was I'm sure Jim was too very impressed with your interview and we would like to go forward and put out a um contingent offer to that
individual we just need a motion to from Council before we can take any further just initiate uh uh the hiring process and then on a motion to initiate hiring process well yeah yeah to extend a conditional offer to the applicant to continue the process yeah do you need a dollar from the conso what to offer
yes we probably should include that for what we want as an initial offer um because I think that not the salary request at the salary that was posted the conditional offer will be for the salary that was posted salary yeah we gave a range right it was 20 okay so okay yeah so we could finish the salary conversation once once correct applicant actually was accept okay yes the public knowledge what our last one ended up in oh all of
our wages are public dollar that's fine I'm just okay was it 27 26 I think it was 26 to 30 is what you no I what was our last 26 26 uh he was under $27 yeah 263 something or 60 something yeah I figured 2650 does this individual have some uh some knowledge we on the resume as far as maintenance uh much dies
yeah diesel mechanic um say license whatever say license or whatever got a class A license he's got um a lot of um mechanical skills a good way if it was the applicant that came and talked to me he was asking about the water he also has an interest to to pursue that too yeah because we did talk about that with him didn't he mentioned it that he knew that
Brian was going to maybe pull the plug in three years and I told him all it's like a two threee process yeah I told him all of that everything you told me all figured out as far as documenting and getting him started and uh wouldn't have to be right away he might be a little overwhelmed at first but after a few months we're very fortunate to have Brian M or two out of town that comes in and can train this one to succeed him and the back of my mind what I'm
foreseeing down the road here is if you guys do get the funds from the from the state and go forward with that new wastewater treatment facility you're going to need my help through that process oh yeah I don't plan to go anywhere or abandon anybody but at the same time it would be good to also start working on getting him yes trained in and licensed uh it's just one more reason for them to stay on board for a longer period of time because there's very Prospect to make more money as you go and things
like that so he was very interested in mhm yeah very much so I guess if his credential warranted it I would put him at the top of that pay scale I think we just ever the conent officer offer will just have that base once he comes back and accepts then I don't be negotiated after um the conditional offer is given yeah um so I mean there there is that room for that negotiation yeah so is it okay if I give the motion
since I'm on Personnel committee yeah okay you can make the motion yeah I'll make a motion to put out the uh conditional conditional yeah for the applicant for the city maintenance worker supervisor supervisor John made a made a motion for the maintenance supervisor position someone to second I'll second it Jim second it all in favor say I I I oppose motion Carri so then you'll contact Victoria tomorrow
Yes actually I yeah I'll let her know okay Cog uh offering new Council training Victoria will be offering a training in Mano for new Council um just to kind of if there's if there's an interest on the ins and outs of what's involved process of the meetings um that type of thing um just to kind of put it out there that she is offering that there is some information on um the league of Minnesota
City's Also regarding new just something to put out there okay is that usually evenings weekends I'm not sure when she's she said she's in the planning stages of it um so if there is an interest did you ever go can you um see if she could send us something through our emails and okay um honor project update list
here it has seal C seal coding 17,000 yes that's what you guys signed last fall that lock in that price with neelson oh it's a lot more than that that's what you that's I just looked at it today the seal coat the streets that's what I looked at wasn't that the one race presented to us like in November yeah y talked about it whether we wanted to do it now and if you did it you locked it in yeah we locked in the price but that's going to be anywhere from 80 990,000 to 100,000
bucks so then where did this come from then I don't know that's what I just seen that and I was wondering um that something that was locked in and it said seal coding on it yeah I'll look maybe I'm wrong I probably am that's going to be really biting a 100,000 bucks okay because I was trying to find it and I couldn't or was that the so repairing the well that's what I was wondering that might have been that see I don't know because seal cating is anyway I know we
said have to it comes out of the road funds and we have yeah I just was trying to keep this updated obviously I did not do a good job so thank you for pointing that out all right um spring cleanup we kind of talked about that already on the second sheet right those are just notes they were notes oh okay you mean we're going to be done I think we're done oh no we got uh um we got some quotes here for yeah I only one quote because I
only got one okay I don't know anybody else um I can give you some names I mean how much do we want to spend you know on City Hall City shop um parking lot do we do we want to prioritize which Sue has this list here you know which is more important is it more important to get this pushed out and fixed in here and let the cement wait till next next year and work on the city shop or is
it this important out here because you know we got some smt that's don'teven we don't want anybody phone down I would I would think if we're going to redo in here we would want the cement work outside done before we would work in here wouldn't we yeah maintenance issue that has to be done especially when we're talking about a lip from the garage entrance now we're Dr to a all but I don't know what that entails CU I'm not a carpenter I think they just nailed na right on top of the approach that was there and it's probably got
a footing on the approach so it isn't going to move just nailed on a waterproof 2 by or whatever 2 by six and later in there probably yeah but I guess all we can do is get some quotes or more cement people you only had one yeah I don't know anybody else okay all right so I'll help Sue and we round up some people okay anything else s under anybody else is going to be closed on the 17th for president day and you're going
to a meeting on the 21st Brook Center yes that's the mcf confence all right anybody else with anything thank you K and Brian for your added information for us tonight if that's it somebody want to make a motion
to oh I got this one letter here um maybe two and I can fill this out tomorrow here from the Auditors there um I'll just leave it here and we can look at it yeah you can leave it and then I'll I'll plan to come up try to come up Friday afternoon and go over the the all the 25 pages of it that being said somebody you want to make a motion to adjourn I will make
a motion to adjourn on second all in favor iOS motion Carri thanks everybody
pledge aliance United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible thanks everybody okay purpose of this meeting tonight
is to review ordinance review cannabis B schedule nuisance properties everybody had it all in our packets so start as the Cannabis yeah on the
already got comments about e
curious it'll take
the pressure off us if have the county the only thing the county really does is they collect the fee and do I mean that's the only thing because we already do it for tobacco and the alcohol so that's basically the only um I mean we can we can't make this tougher than what the state has it already well right so the the um example ordinance that Kennedy attached was for
us doing all of it if we wanted that's why I tax the ones from the townships those are the ones that give authority to L County because we'd still do the zoning and the approval whatever blue or Tony would the registration accepting the fees checking the standards and then they would
still conduct the the compliance inspections yeah that's the contract with the sheriff's department I think y they're doing that we ran it yep we that's the CP right not the gummies or the gummies the gummies thec okay I think right now it's just the hemp is it yeah that's what I was wonderings clued any of all that
so the bars that have that do they got to go through that covered under the liquor law or the liqu the stuff that the the liquor store has in the red Iron is not the THC stuff that's the stuff this is the stuff that you'd actually have to go to there's one out by Manards I don't know what it's called um like the prescription kind of stuff well then you can buy um the THC infused gummies things like that at those I don't
know what that store's called I've seen it out there that's what my it's what my son does too yeah is right here giggly I got a good hat on today for that is yeah I didn't even know what that was yeah that's his product it's a THC infused drink yes so that's and it's nothing uh yeah and then they also have by uh anytime anything Fitness Planet Fitness where you got the gummies
you got the sleep stuff you got Delta stuff or whatever y Del it's all regulated I mean it's you can't do anything over and above so right and you can't not allow somebody right no if long well I mean there's requirements that they have to meet but yeah I mean if a business came into town if they meet the requirements yeah you know sell it you you'd have control on whether or not you wanted them to be here in town producing it
but as far as selling it this is just the retail produ they wouldn't make it here right well not saying that they possibly couldn't I mean there's a this is not no because they still don't have that in Minnesota where they can do they have it in Minnesota where you can actually make it now do they drummer's got a spot he's got the old Brown Printing building in Wasa and that's what he does oh yeah they refine it and bottle it yes really all right so do
we have to make this cover like for the production of it then we have to it or this is this is more for the retail portion of it not not the production but if they came in and say they bought a little or had a little area to do it and they wanted to product their own and put it on the Shelf it'd be two things in one building so do we have to address that I wonder I would just say we
should probably just focus on the retail because go my my understanding is so like say in my home if I wanted to open a retail business I would not be able to because it's residential it's not yeah it's got to be so far business district so one thing about good Thunder though that's I mean we have limited space and then when you add in the 500 feet from a daycare daycare School sure does have it in here just the part
of it in here as well I don't remember reading it on page three 1.5 the definitions maybe it's just the definitions yeah cultivation oh yeah I do remember reading that yeah and then if you're had a retail business which would be somebody coming in to
do a storefront on Main Street or whatever because it would have to be yeah IT addresses the cultivation business it's 6.1 second last page is shall not so is there anywhere let's see um 500 feet from the church or uh
par or school right yeah that's yeah yep so to say it came in the old happy Dan that wouldn't meet the church requirement or the daycare so in reality is there even a spot in the retail area that you could even have I'm not sure how far 500 feet is but I was thinking about it well from that stop sign there down there should be
300 ft one city block is 300 feet okay so so the 500 feet rule for the daycare if you go straight up H that would eliminate Marin's Bank the old Bank building because that would be within 500 feet then the church and the daycare I think it's just daycare I don't think a church or school school we don't have and then a park right stain Lake Crystal 500 feet of a park yeah
so yes you could we could say that um or you it could being up at this park in the church you're in a cover and then you go 500 feet that's way out to my house so yeah you you covering there's not a lot of there's no real room in this town would actually work no that 500 ft in there come in and want to and then we have have to backpedal because we don't have an ordinance right no well we need to do the ordinance because
um the new building's going up over there we could have yeah because that's business zoned anded potentially absolutely that that would make make the setback yep um but yeah we we need it but I think as far as the downtown area yeah pretty much if you consider Bell Tower Park a park which kids do hang out in that
would be the bus stop so right so none none the downtown area would ever be able to accommodate any of this you never see everything in this town anyway in a small town I'm not because we're not a destination have to purposly go to the thunder it's
not I think it would be great because thunder restaurant brings in it's I they must don't have a it's really the only one that does bring anything but people come here for yes yeah they bring plenty though they do I mean somebody smart they would be open the same time as the Thunder is
would you ever allow anybody to have a a variance say there were 300 say there 400 feet somebody comes in they ask for a variance or is it what this is printed is this this statute State Statute has to be followed um Kennedy's letter that second
short just one sentence the language regarding the minimum buffer zone may be reduced but by Statute cannot be extended so yeah we could do a variance yeah there you go yeah
anybody think this would be a growing business not in good not in good Thunder Minnesota will be yeah
you'll see it St Minnesota you'll see it in Mano you'll see it in Minneapolis you know the bigger you're not going to see in the small tunnels and then the old adage that it's a you know a bad thing is if they do their research they'll find out that THC is a very good natural anti-inflammatory produ if it's used in the right you know right for the right
purposes but but why can't you drive on it driving Under the Influence just like alcohol yeah you can drive on it but I mean it's just like alcohol you don't so much iron red Iron could get a license for it with
a Varan upstairs upstairs no I was even trying to think even if it would say go somehow for some reason the other side of the locker but then you're getting closer toward the Catholic Church you'd stay the same distance there but have to but yeah I I don't see anything where it says it can't be close to a church just do a daycare and park and park but yeah the park is up right next to yeah that's true
um and this is the same consent that all the other townships and whatever following correct I mean that's well the townships are given the Authority or delegating delegated authority to BL worth countyy do all the um registration and all that kind of stuff file
in all the paperwork and stuff like that so on the whole I think this is a pretty good policy except for the Lake Crystal blurb in there yeah well he did Lake crystals yeah that's what that's what you're looking at is the one they did for Lake Crystal um fairly similar to it the Ordinance one
that he drew up yes he already Drew one up the light Crystal yeah I think so because that's if you look at this light crystal is mentioned and the first one he gave me had Lake Crystal on the front under J yeah retail registration so there's one 100 feet away
from the par they got Vari Crystal that one's considered a smoke shop right but they have THC in it yeah depends on the level of THC and that's all yeah regulated by stage outside and you can smell it oh yeah so then if we had adopt these ordinances what procedure
do we have to follow to get them into our book so so it has to go to that public hearing that's what I thought and all yeah it has there's that's why we're hopefully we can do like three of them or whatever at a time y um and then we'll just have a work with Kennedy on doing the public hearing and then we'll have a public hearing people can come and voice their opinion yes or no whatever yep okay y and then after that it can become
an ordinance right we adopt it make a resolution probably yeah yeah I don't know how I think it's got to be by resolution that weop that seems like I was reading some about that today also too that's a resolution to adopt an ordinance
virtually I guess this does cover the sale of it too not necessarily just the so we will you can't make a motion in special meeting so we'll have to bring this forward in the regular meeting after if we want to accept this or can we make a motion in yeah we can't make a motion in a workshop but this isn't a workshop this is a special meeting
oh so we can make okay yes you can make a motion in the special meeting and then we can move forward with this or however so then we'd have to plan for that public hearing right okay yep so anybody else any more questions about this here good bad Now's the Time to speak up yeah if not John you want to make a motion to what we've yeah got here ahead
of us I'll make a m motion to approve the proposed ordinance presented by Kennedy with the correction of the Lake Crystal piece I think everything else looks fine and does this this one this follow in suit here with the the townships or is this just an example that's an example from the townships giving the delegating the authority to the Blue Earth County
that's all that was down made a motion someone to Second all in favor say I I oppos motion carried all righty uh fee schedules so that I can update the utility increases going to water the sewer in the garbage do you still have
to go down on election days yet then are you still involved I go to the trainings y but I don't have to be an election judge unless called so we don't have any more election judges period right now right but we don't want to eliminate doesn't mean we you that's right you don't want it to eliminate it because you could get them back and then to someday I think this in-house votings should should come back definitely you have yeah since I moved here it's all
and that was before Co I don't know why we weren't doing it before Co um wait no no I take it back it was Co I have no idea we had a guy here from the county in fact it was this stalberger I think Michael stalberger I think it was here he was here and to get back into it which at the time I thought it was very handy because you don't have to plan on being here calibrated comes in the
mail you mail it back but as we found out I don't think sometimes you can trust that system yeah so it was going to cost the city like 20 or $25,000 to reinitiate it but if it comes mandated back right it would we grant money for it well we wouldn't probably it wouldn't cost us that it would just automatically go back again you would it would cost us something probably a little but it wouldn't cost yeah
or what it's going to be by them yeah you got to buy that machine and then recalibrate it every election and whatever they got to do through it that 10 grand well I don't yeah it was it was up there yeah H so do we want to go through this compensations for uh like uh uh the Fire Department chief assist in Chief but that's set already for this year right right yeah so everything that's on here is what's already set in the
fee schedule we're just moving the fee schedule from the ordinance to its own that way we can just update the fee schedule as needed with a resolution versus changing the ordinances all the time right yeah and so going back to the Cannabis do
we want to do a fee for that registration like we do with liquor I was think so is however yeah that's it or do we collect that or does that just go to the county no we collect it but here on number eight yeah it's in your fee schedule I don't know exactly what that dollar amount is at this time the initial I think it's I think do you know off hand what like
the liquor license is to that like I think it's 50 and 25 for tobacco is renewals renewals Year yes yeah I believe so just $50 to have a liquid license for a year you just said it's renewal so maybe a beginning one maybe there's more to it which would make sense there'll be more work to it to um yeah
have special Insurance have a liqu license well you need to be insured I don't think it's special insurance but I'm sure there's a lot of more considerations a liquor license any I don't know I guess it is only well the intoxicating LIF is 400 a
year that's what I thought one of them was is 400 a year and the off sale is 50 well that cannabis if you you would sure want to have that at Le you know into the hundreds of dollars when you $250 or you know yeah she says 4 I mean if the liquor is 400 I would say you want you would probably want to keep it closer to that
would you even or I don't know I'm throwing it out there people what's the smokes um cigarettes are 100 tobacco is 100 a year was off on both of them yeah we can do we can do cannabis same as intoxic Ian you can set it wherever you want but
I cannabis is also intoxicating so yeah 400's good yeah do they have to have a see a bar has to have drum insurance is it Dr dram shop dram Insurance how about you know if they're selling that do they have to have certain kind of uh Insurance to sell that cannabis also oh I'm sure they do but I mean do we need to make sure
that that that is in our ordinance and being followed you know because that's all part of the license application they have to give me a cop I have to have a copy of the insurance um and all these other documents but who who sets What minimum of insurance they have to carry state assuming because again like you said it's intoxicating it would have the same risk if somebody went and just puffed it down or whatever the heck you do with that all that information K somebody all
that stuff goes to the state and the state verifies it and says okay yes you can states are want to got us into this mess who that so when you're talking about a fee for that you talking about a for a cannabis business or you talking about a fee just so they sell it the LI they have to get licensed and that's ultimately be approved through the state through that scene just wonder if ever in man do they charge him extra to
sell that I would imagine I would assume there's a cultivating license and a cul yes I understand the cultivating part would be something separate I'd have to ask him but check text Jared and find out yeah that' be a good question I would assume so but no that'd be good to check but I mean that could all be added in in at the time of the hearing and before we put it in right and that
would be set the fee would be set by resolution yeah and it would be separate from because this fee schedule all it does is just say that the fees are going to be on its own it's not going to be right in the ordinance and it's going to be set by Council so there is no dollar amounts attached to this ordinance then this is actually well oh yeah it's moving the ordinance to its own it's moving the fee schedule to its own right or not the yeah the Fe majority of the cities have it
I'm not sure why it's in ours so did I how about reconnect the um I know we do it uh you know if they're non-payment and we reconnect there's a fee yeah it isn't under yeah but is it is it listed here uh water permit and reconnect fee in
the front oh looking at what Parton yeah basic charges here but I don't know if we have section where it says rates and charges for municipal in utilities yeah that's where that would be and then if you because it would direct you to the fee schedule and the fee schedule will have a listed May impose a late
fee return check fee interest upon delinquent but it doesn't say reconnect fee right sewer connection fees that's when you do it contingency but if you shut somebody's water off and I think we have a reconnect do but it says not but not limited to these are the fees but it's not limited to just the connection fees I can change it I can have we should probably have that in writing shouldn't we you know I can have them put
it in there because if somebody would look at that you don't have that in your ordinances and you $25 it I'm just saying oh this shut it off 75 put it back on okay this is schedule question has brought up about so we don't have to go through everything even our water yeah this is going to be a shut off if they like your dad doesn't do so he just pays his but we have a couple in town that they get shut off they get that disconnect fee when they come back in they get
a reconnect fee okay now that's something that was never done in the past and when I it was only there was only one person that had it now we've got a couple different ones but now that they want to the monthly thing it'd be probably cheaper to have it shut off it's still their option I mean if they have it shut off they don't have to worry about anything busted in their house while they that's right because we did have one that they were on vacation and race had found there was a whole lot of water usage and he had to get in there with the sheriff because something was running
or broke or something but if they keep their valve working coming into the basement floor they can shut it off right there and you're all done in your house too but most people don't keep that valve operation on so yeah it's just up to the property owner if they want to yeah because we talked about having an ordinance for snowbirds and Council decided just to leave it as it is for disconnect and a reconnect no matter what the disconnect for unless it's something the city has to do to fix something so
yeah you have to figure out then what it is how long are going to be gone what the minimum charge a month is right and weigh it out whether it's cheaper in the long run to do the $150 but you know that's what it's going to be right wrote down there the fee you were talking about
was whether or not they were shut off payment that would have to be a that's in our that's in our ordinances that they can get shut off or not that's separate from this that's in there if you look at our ordinances they are shut off for non payment and I think it does say that there's a fee post on it um how about a fee for uh We've it somewhere but say
a individual wants a bucket load of rock and we sell them a would we put that under this s the fee schedule it's on the fee schedule it's on here okay yeah what because all we're doing is taking this out of the ordinance okay so that we can just change this through resolution when needed instead of having to go through the whole ordinance public hearing the farm water should be on same list too right and yeah then you
can update that just on and that's what I was doing and then I yeah that's how this came out because the water the monthly because right in our in this it's quarterly but we're changing it to monthly so we have to change our ordinances to go along with it involved to right have a fee increase of some type or those was any other questions on the uh be schedule then or I mean anything to be needed to
add or take away I don't did you notice on K Robert that it exps fees that they can set other fees that kind of covers that full blanket oh I just noticed that that that a should actually be M cu it goes J K L A yeah we're just
going backwards a little bit I think I think this was fine I'll make a motion to approve removal of the schedule from our John May motion second second second all in favor say I I post motion Carri okay down to newon property
might be the one that takes the longest I just you know you live by somebody and you take care of your yard and want your place to look nice and you have a neighbor that has junk all
over and they might think it's precious stuff but the other neighbor don't want to really look at it or if you got a house that's got sighting falling off or no sighting on it this this is our job to make sure that we can get something done right and you know people aren't going to like it but the people that are living by don't like it either so I mean we all got to work together to find a happy solution or better solution
taxes to live in the city pay for us to you know take care of the ones that don't basically yep I mean and uh you don't have to look very far and there's like 9 to 12 vehicles on one property that's that's already not allow yeah so like you had said before when had the police force they took care of that and then we've we've lost that ability since we've lost the having our own
police force y we have we've lost that togetherness or that fit that we can make stuff work but we still can get that covered now by just have having to bring that to the attention of BL Earth County right no no they won't do it no they won't even if uh our ordinance requires them to have them license yes so if they are sitting on private property and they're not
licensed can we get them involved then seems like we talked about that a couple summers ago because I mean you know if was on the street we can call yeah and then it can be taken care of I think if it's on the property does anybody got the old ordinance if you look under the old old ordinance it's got to be currently licensed to sit on your the ordinance you've got the current ordinances in that packet I sent
you there's so much here to yes there is ordinances against but please but it's all civil penalties and that was where the issue came in before it was all civil penalties yeah that's so the ordinance reads if we want to change it it becomes we can debate it and then we can go that route isn't
that what um so sorry that what we were talking about that was with Kennedy and everything else to try to draw something up get something done and that's yes and that's what he's doing that's why in there that has the two letters um where we send the first one the whole thing is though is coun how pre previously Council would drive around Council can't drive around I mean
they can but it's not Council saying you need to send letters to X Y and Z it's now last week I got phone calls I got a phone call from somebody who had four properties that could see out their out their window that were in disrepair or that there was stuff laying all over whatever can we do it then as a citizen and initiate it yeah so now it's it's that or I think it's I think I can if I see
something or something like that um really kind of forgot both what in here here it says it right here inoperable Motor Vehicles on b or in which is not properly licensed for operation within the state so they have to be licensed sitting on their property and there are several that are not so if they're not licensed would the sheriff get involved in knocking on the door they
aren't going to do that but again so it that's where that's where the rub is so start talking about this it's like yeah we have a lot of nuisance proper uh properties in town and a lot I can think of a couple have a lot of vehicles but if we want to go through the abatement then we have to you know what
what how much time and energy and uh money are we going to spend to try to get a unlicensed vehicle off the property and in the end we may not be able to get it off the property you no and but then we're not adhering to what we've adopted over the years either true true they're not but it's it's like we have we have we're very limited on our enforcement mechanisms and that's because there's well too many lawyers but
anyway that's a whole yeah but a you know it's um we can send fines to be assessed on County at some point I mean that's where the abatement yeah because you s so many warning letters or right and that's where where prior we could send a letter but then it would be civil and we'd have to take it to civil court and that's where the roadblock hit so now we can with this we send the letters we
say you know you're inv violation council meeting they're going to hear it you can come you can either rectify the situation you can come and explain why you can't or when you're going to you know Council will say okay you have X amount of days this is what you agree to and if they don't then we can do start the abatement process and and maybe some of it is they just don't know where start and then we can offer to help them or the
other part is we can do it for you know and then charge them back where and then Store the store the items like Mapleton is doing and the iner on C they wanted to put them all in one area and put a fence around them and sounds like that's permissible there's a fence yep y and you know a nice clean two-sided fence or what it looks better than right
eight different Vehicles sitting there that you see you know one's this way one's this way couple this way I mean they're pretty much in order but again um Building Supplies out in the open um I mean there a lot take those building supplies and build a fence I think it's I think said it it's been on a slow you know decline since we have since we haven't had police force in town and now it's just gotten out
of hand I mean to the point where nobody you know if they're aren't gonna say anything I'll just add another vehicle they're not gonna say anything I'll just add another vehicle once the city sets an example and actually follows through with some of this stuff I I can't help but think it's going to fall into place exactly I mean it's going to be a process and it's not going to be overnight but but like I said when I moved here the joke was they don't do nothing anyway it still is well this has been
brought up for 30 plus years yeah that's right right yep that's right when I was on console that was the big argument you'd get so far and and and that's where but you have to have a lawyer also that will keep pushing and shoving then we just keep pushing and Ching yeah you know we push in sh I mean you addressed that at one of those meetings right didn't you ask that at a meeting and they said that they have an individual that really goes after
this oh yeah yeah yeah one of my Cog meetings yep yep yeah yep so did they have problems pursuing that or no it was did I have problems no those other Town um no once it was turned over to that um that attorney just went and did it and end of story so um so you know that's something that we can look at at some point that's why I I don't understand
like with fines being a leverage nobody likes fines usually people move pretty quickly when they know that there's a fine in but there's no fine at this point it's civil right now yeah right now the way we have it right now it's a civil action right we need to go to the due process part so um so once we change it and we go through the due process because if you read into it talking about the council doing it Council can't because council is the one that's going to sit here and says no this is not correct you need to fix
this or whatever so Council can't go out there and say hey this property needs to be done and I send them a letter so in other words we get a full-time maintenance individual him or her him themselves and you would be the two that would go around and look at properties we pictures test we're not I mean I'm not gonna the thing is with that when you start because we can't do pictures we already know that you don't want to just go and pick on a property if you're going to do it you need why but
then if you have somebody like my phone call last week where somebody said hey you know these properties are in disrepair or whatever I can I can address those specific those specific properties based on a complaint right and I'm not saying that all the residents have to come up here and file a complaint no but you know if you see something draw to your attention without bias right well if you had an an individual that had a complaint like that wouldn't you
have to have a picture to show what it was before we started and to see if any progress was made I mean we can but you're you're all right with the pictures as long as right as long focused on that and it stays here yeah y yes because but we can say yes there is progress this pictures is worth a thousand words yeah it's the only way you're going to see it just can't but you know but you can also say you know you've got a tree in your backyard you've got a couch in your
front yard and you've got a broken down car next to it you know and then if those three things are moved then you can tell there's progress yeah progress well it's progress start the whole thing over steps but then well yeah we could go on cars and that nuisance prop how about
houses that the sightings coming off there's houses with no siding uh there's squirrels running in in a in a building and it says in here if it kind of like brings the value down of the individual next door kind of like you know we got to act as a city to get that in compliance get it cleaned up so it's all going to involve a
lawyer right y yes that will everything is invol y absolutely so you know but first first we need to change our ordinance to go to the due process which Kennedy talks about that's first thing that's first and foremost and from there then we can start progress once we get it in our ordinances then we can start enforcing I mean I'm still going to send letters to the to the residents that you know I heard about
last week but at least we have a at least we have the paper trail then just to be sure that we're doing it properly and somebody comes to us as council members complains about a pro and go look at it yep or or let me know that hey you know so and so you know so there's a property over here and then we'll go from there yeah yeah I don't want to do anything to
overstep our so-called boundaries but yeah right yeah yeah you just can't go and tell me that hey you need to send a letter like we have in the past know Council goes around and then they have a list of people that we send letters to that because it says in our current letters that I've been directed or being directed by Under the direction of the city council or something oh we have to that's why these letters these sample letters are in here because we to change that verbage ver oh yeah because you guys are the ones that tell the meeting the resident comes in and says whatever
or they don't show up and then you can you know I mean when they when they have a fence around their property and they allow the weeds to be two three feet tall because they don't want trim the weeds in the fence I mean that that's against the height ordinance also you know the height ordin is
about 6 inches I think something like that well if you put a fence up and you have thistles growing in it you have to maintain it yeah you have to maintain it and keep that knocked down I mean otherwise it's just it's unsightly well somewhere in there there's talks about noxious weeds y yeah we have sent those letters I've sent some last
summer yeah right away section a declaration of what a nuisance is it's pretty self-explanatory right unsightly decrease the adjoining land owners and occum enjoyment of property in neighborhood adversely affect the property value and there is something in here about
noise also right if you are making too much noise on your property and it goes 50 feet past your property line into somebody else's property and it's causing them problems I mean to me what would you call that that that there is a noise ordinance that being created by a maybe a licensed motorcycle or a dirt bike unlicensed one or unlicensed shouldn't the sheriff have
the right to make that that yeah have went to noise complaints and that can be done through the 911 call yeah like they have told we just have to get residents to call 911 and say it's a non-emergency right exactly they're afraid to call because retaliation right and you don't I mean and they don't can all be anonymous they don't you know they just but but it never is when you call 911 well they have
they have a yeah record of it but the sheriff's not going to go out there and say so you know Miss Jones says that your radio is on too loud at 2 in the morning that's not how it works well I don't know that's not true because of the deer hunting accident incident last fall there on the city of Lagoon the sheriff called George truly while the person was standing there oh yeah so there's no private there and I got called by somebody else pardon was it to prove that there was
no hunting out there no to say has permission oh yeah has per no you don't nobody's ever had permission to hunt on city property city property nobody has ever had that and uh yeah they called me up and he's standing right there oh H whatever so that thing called common sense yep that's been done every year but now we got a gate on there so we should be in good shape yeah so I mean
we if they go down to the other we know all these problems exist but to get them you can't fix stupid to deal with them I don't know how we're gonna yeah that's that's that's the rub I mean we know we have some issues with cars we know we have some issues with properties that have been started to construct and has been there now for two years at least nothing's
happened we have properties that have ran down because of loose boards and uh no we have all of it in here yeah we have it we have everything in here yeah there safety concerns I mean you know if you get a squirrel in eeve of your house it ain't going to belong that house going to be wrecked you know they can do a lot of damage and so wow and this might
get back to maybe making these properties cleaner which is in our regular meeting about uh once a month Pi yeah yep I think you know if we try it this summer and it say you just put that I'm just saying for instance we put that pickup day on the second or the third or whatever Monday have it on a Monday so they have the weekend to carry it out to the curb maybe we can get our town cleaned up a little bit because you
know if you have it on Thursday well I worked until 8:00 on Wednesday night and I didn't have time to get it out but if you have it first thing Mondays have the weekend the yeah we'll just talk about that next meeting but yeah we'll take care of maybe maybe it would help you know sure can't hurt yeah it'll it I think it'll definitely help won't help the vehicle situation but and it won't help houses get sighted right but some of
this the the in The Yards um our big yard art is that against our ordinances there was something in here it talk about I mean you
go through towns and you'll find somebody with an old car or pickup and they have the body sitting there and they'll plant flowers around it you know use Machinery under n under n and under what n letter N accumulations in the open of disuse Machinery
household appliances automobile bodies or other material in a manner conductive harboring of rats mice snakes fermint when does a piece of yard art get
to be offensive to the neighbors well here it says all dangerous if you look at L previous to that it says all dangerous unguarded Machinery in any public place or situated or operated on private property as to attract the public does that fall under that same thing any public place we're situated at private property I don't know
so is it is it a nuisance that it attracts the public so I don't understand what the don't know that wording is yep I mean that's why
I read it if it if somebody drove by and they kind of like gawked at it and ran into a park car is that that what that kind of means or is it something of like an don't if kids climbed on it and fell off or something I mean just like Farm Mach machery is dangerous on a farm you know it could be dangerous sitting in yeah yeah I can ask Kennedy yeah because well but in
that case if somebody some kid is walking by starts playing on something and falls off and hurts themselves then the parent of that child they would have a very well documented lawsuit against that property owner yeah because and that's you know your household insurance would have to pay that mhm because it's your liability sitting out there in your yard right yeah and I mean
the city probably don't take it and deem what is good and bad in the yard yeah because that's too subjective oh Count's over so snow we supposed to get more snow I don't think so right I hope not you say you had a call last week for two or three properties in or yeah I
think there was four of them that were discussed and you will be sending a yes I assured that I I was going to try to do it last week but I thought I'm going to wait until tonight and then um but then yeah I can't send the new letters anyways because we're not to that process yet I can still send the letter so I mean when when properties start
just start accumulating more and more and more and now there's couches and a washer or dryer out in the yard we can't allow that no I mean you you if you took it out of the house and by all means throw it in a pickup and hauled away you know if you're you're intending it hoping the city will have this by April ail mhm well I don't think any neighbor should have to look at a couch or wash machine or dryer out in the yard until April I
imagine a neighbor would complain before then I mean i' I'd be if my neighbor all of a sudden started pulling out couches and like that I'd be complaining immediately and we got it all that's the thing we've got every one of these scenarios in good DIN and I don't know how you get rid of them or I mean how you you start so like say that
a house here this property owner one uh exterior hous holes Breaks Loose rotting boards or Timbers we can we send one of them out now after tonight or do we have to have a an individual complaint well that's one of them um but it's I I don't know I'd have to make sure that it's because here we're quoting code post section 9203 B1 and2 and if that's what our code says now
I can but if it's not it may take all this summer again to get some of
this done yeah and uh like Sue said other towns have had individuals pursue it and made Headway so you once we get past early spring here maybe especially after we offer what we're offering yeah the opportunity is there a little bit of effort on their part would make it go in the right direction fairly easy really you
can't get it to the herb yeah well we got a half hour yet guys we want to end at quarter to 7 and have 15 minute break we what else we got to talk about nuisances well so we need a motion on this one then too correct correct move it to the due process and the way he has this one written I don't see anything that needs to be corrected that
we should change or at least I didn't know you're on the back of this where's his new letter or whatever whatever you see those are the example letters in the back two pages okay that we would send out in lie of what we're doing currently except the last paragraph of that second letter um it's not supposed to be there I'm assuming no I was trying to because he sent me
a PDF of it so I was typing it up what he was saying I put in there so well I'll make a motion to approve under Kennedy's suggestion that we move to a due process instead of the way we have been doing it and to
um adopt the ordinance that he has replac him with the current that was a mouthful second John made this motion am second all in favor say I I poos motion
Carri anything else we have three items there that we had to touch on anything else as far as what we've been reviewing tonight come to mind now this other one Su is this is from Kennedy as well yeah so these so we've gone through a couple of these but not right so he touched on a couple of these and I kind of highlighted the ones that we
were discussing tonight like the administrative um penalties or it says where He suggests um yeah so I don't know how we we talked about the administrative penal because we talked about all of this at that one meeting we had right I sent a lot of this to pened and I think this is kind
of some of it that Kennedy had sent to us um so there will be more ordinances that we either are changing or leaving the same I'll have to go back in and look at my notes on those okay because I think there were how many were there at the last time that we went through we did those do you remember I think it was all these here yeah but I don't think we got through all I know nuisance properties we didn't get through that's why we did yeah um the other
part was the recreational vehicles I know when we were having our ordinance meetings a year or so ago talking about um how we wanted to deal with um like mini trucks and one whe scooters and two wheed scooters and things like that so I don't know if that's something that we need to address there was something in here about the snow bills yeah how about camper sitting on City street for a week at a of time is that something we
should address that I think wasn't just in those we can enforce we can address that those I think were also just covered in this um one we just did oh maybe not I don't remember as you said if it's on the streets the sheriff would take care of that or yes it's the street the city or the sheriff because he has a couple of them he either contacts them he contacts them and has them move
them but where the hell is it talk about the stone bills I know we saw it that right here in 71 it's got orange mark buy it oh yeah see the snowmobiles
are licensed so you can ride them down public highways but years ago you could not come in on the county roads you could not ride it through Main Street but you could come in from the north and you could come in killer drive and up there go down to the bar but you could not go on the county roads you can cross them right on them right um but electric bikes mini bikes and that are not licensed which are
not supposed to be on the public roadway I can't find then that kind of Falls Golf Carts golf carts there's a permit yeah we have a permit for there get so and there it says licensed driver and yes yeah for the for
the which is not being followed and there's L to now that I've noticed I don't have any registration or they have there's no permit on them they just drive them now is that something that we can bring to their attention um we did it for a very short time and I can't remember how it went but then I thought we stopped we were issuing license yeah there's a permit that goes on the back because shortly after I started um wanted one and I didn't have a clue so wasn't Lee Hiller came up here to show me what he had
on his it was a no fee one because right there's no fee for it it's just that it's registered it's registered with the city basically yeah and then they know that they have to follow the rules because when yeah they did that fee thing and got into a pissing match oh yeah there's no Fe for that so then they dro the fee
and was in the actual ordinances on the snowmobiles and it was a question that came up on uh we have that ours of operations should be no no snows between midnight and 7 A.M but then we also had in there um uh that the hours U for operation were between 10 read it 10 p.m.
to 7 a.m. yeah if you went back 50 years ago when snowmobiles were big I mean there was groups of them in time or 30 of them you know I believe the town did talk about it but say you were at somebody's house and you rolled in at midnight you had the right to come into town and go directly to your house right right but it's like very minimal speed yeah yeah now we have four-wheelers that um yeah there four wheelers but they're they're all well I
think they're licensed I guess I don't know yeah they're licensed supposed to be problem too I the other part on the bottom talking about uh regulated such as minibikes which makes sense little unlicensed motorized noisemaker but how do you regulate those that was what we discussed in they're not on I'm just saying then they got electric bikes you gota be careful with that because it's a pedal bike with battery assist yep
there's nothing wrong with that I don't know what other what what electric bike they're talking about there but electric skateboards yeah I know that that's those hoverboards with the handle yeah are those like electric scooters those what they used to call them a bird or something would do in our ordinances getting back to that deer hunting and so would
we ever put that in the ordinance that there is never ever any hunting allowed on city property proper have it in there have it in there it's not in there I I don't I don't believe so you know there's no no huny on any City properties so you have that so when the sheriff is down there well the city have an ordinance no honey on city property yeah just that simple is uh the
water ponds are they are they posted no trespassing to right they are yeah okay that's what I thought but they drove right by that well I'm sure they do I mean you can have a hunt in the city of Mano but it's a special permit special time that's just me again oh maybe we should get that in writing I don't know where we would put that um well Kennedy well I'll talk to Kennedy y I'll ask him yeah I don't because we've dealt with that numerous times I think I think that's good yeah I just don't know where
where would go common sense but I guess it needs to be put you can put in there no hunting or discharging of firearms firearms right Andor riding four-wheelers on city property because there were we went back a few years ago there was Trails down here by the burn pile where people were riding down in through there on city property into the river and you know um but I think that's all ended now but that could also be included in it you could take that four-wheeler and take
a branch down to the burn pile but you can't go right through the woods right right I mean I I don't have a problem if somebody's going camping and they put their camper out on the street for a day or two to pack it you know but if
they just kind of leave it there you know for weeks on end it's kind of about you know wasn't that is it 24 or 48 hours it's 24 for car you know but nobody has ever enforced that you know there's cars that have sat for weeks un end and nobody's ever said that think recreational maybe it's 48 hours that recreational is but either way
yeah well have we touched on enough here so we can have a 15 minute break think so everybody satisfied somebody make a motion to adjourn the special meeting ordinance review I will make a motion to J the special meeting com a second I second got second all in favor say I I oppos motion carried