[Music] yeah well I guess we can call the meeting to order first thing is uh stand the say Pledge of Allegiance and remain standing for a moment in silence I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible
thanks everybody okay approval of the agenda any additions Corrections I'll have a few extra things under miscellaneous approve some of a second second all in favor say iose motion carried okay do we have to
close this one and open the truth and Taxation or we just jump into the truth and Taxation I think you need to open and close I think so don't I think you're right so some you want to close the regular council meeting suspended I think or do we suspend it for I think you might 15 minutes I so somebody want to make a motion so move I'm on a second second all in favor say I I carried okay I'd like to open up the truth taxation hearing meeting floor is open
to residents for comments and concerns anybody got comments on their tax my bank um a 37% increase in the city portion of property ta holy cow up 500 41
here and that is a big concern of mine it's yeah can we back up a second I think I was gone in the month of October I know I was gone is that when you guys submitted something to the county at like 2% 3% what did we submit increase it not at all Zero Zero from the beginning corre okay yes so see that's what I can't understand either here's my house taxes last year they were
$2,938 a half now they went up to $3,089 and the city went up nothing Tom you were down there and you nobody can figure out how that is and my my house went up 2.37 the county yeah but I'm talking about the city just the city alone the city the city should not go up if we don't go
up should it how can they do that when we've as a council propose zero increase but yet it still goes up on our taxes and another thing I don't understand is I'm I'm just here regarding commercial property yeah um it it's all across the board here I mean I I've got Lear I've got all the commercial properties in town here and um the highest Believe It or Not went up
um 38% how can that be because my main shop went up for the city it went from 36 or 3567 to 4294 and then it went up 1577 700 bucks that's a and we raised zero and that's a 20% increase for you from last year
15.77% of buildings well that includes everything though isn't that including the yeah that 1577 is the percentage for Blue Earth County and the school and everything but your city portion if you figure that out is a 20% increase just on your city portion see and then a question these levies that are approved for the school well that's pretty much a referendum right right to build the building MH and
the operating Levy is to this obviously this other levies is an operating Levy that was carried over through well that's already set that dollar amount is set so why does that keep going up each year too if you go out and bonded for that that just say that school $60 million and you schedule that out over the next 20 years that should never change should it it can pardon it can oh
I know it can but it shouldn't yeah it shouldn't well all depends on valuation and what drops in and what drops out you they can put there was something like if this was approved there wasn't not anything set in stone that they couldn't come back the next year and say oh well I guess we need more there wasn't anything that said they couldn't do that so I'm sure that's what they're doing but how about that other Levy that obviously was an operating Levy or an old Levy how can that that should be set
in stone but it keeps going up each year yeah I mean it's kind of like the business is going up so high here apparently there's something changed in the I mean we're the city did not ask for any more money y so that's locked so how that money was paid changed you know somebody somebody's property went way down in tax mine didn't mine went up a little bit but it was just a little bit
but I mean somebody's went way down you know what I'm saying so they're not commercial or residential or both or both any you know because it's all one pot they all divide it up you know what I mean so everybody everybody's got to pay toward the pot and so apparently someone's there's got to be property in town that really decreased or dropped off completely you know what value did they put on your bank down there did they raise that oh yeah um that went up 20%
it went from 104 to 1252 which is a 212 increase which is 20% um you should make the appeal with the accouny you oh I trust me okay because I've always wanted to I've never had the guts to but like my property always increases a lot too um but you know with good Thunder we don't have any or many amenities there's no reason why our property tax should keep I feel like
should keep going up comparable to Manos or you know anywhere else so I've always wanted to appeal it with the county but I never have so you have you have you know I've been down that road with the county and it's it's like up against a brick Tom went down there years ago and tried to get that formula explained to him yeah somebody could just and you come back confused and still confused but again the city's portion I don't see how that can be when we go up zero we
are watching out for the citizens of good tund are going up0 percentage and we go we spend more money or we got to pay more money that's what I'm saying something changed funny too is like I pulled up the school yeah and the value of the school actually went down $5,500 in value yeah which is a 2% um decrease but their city taxes went up by 12% went up $434 from last
year which I'm surprised yeah I mean I'm sure Mike is I'm glad his taxes went down because that's and that's a big deal over there but um you know like I'm really surprised Grant Lind aren't here but like dick slacker um went up by 36% for a small business like that you guys that's that's bad Thunder restaurant
35% um protein sources 21% you already said yours rob it Street Machines went up 20% oh okay baral gas only went up by 16 they were the lowest they don't have nothing on them H there's nothing there Brett winners went up by 16% so you know without my business even being in there I'm hoping to open up next again but I tell
you that's a lot through the county we we did zero we submitted zero we're staying at zero tonight because we can't raise it tonight we could have lowered it say we put in 5% and a bunch of people come and made noise because their taxes went up so we put in zero stayed at zero and your taxes still went up for the city good and I talked to Blue Earth County about that and they're like take it up with the city of good Thunder that's their baby you know and yeah and nobody you know
and and I'm not I'm not upset with you you guys at all about this it's just the you know nobody can blame the council because we went up exactly and I just if somebody could just get to the bottom of how this this happens because um I'm I'm still trying to get a business to come in to rent my space over there and that's right and the other thing is you know if the taxes keep going up like this um I have to raise my rents for my
renters um it's going to be harder to find know renters that are going to want to come out here it's going to cause once the school gets done over there you know that's going to be affordable housing if his taxes keep going up he's gonna have to raise his rent and it's not going to be affordable for long well they they appealed last year I remember yeah because um it was an astronomical it was like 36,000 took a money and we don't know if he ever paid that much yeah I know I
know he was appealing he he had gotten some big tax attorneys but he won man I don't think there's anybody up here can explain all this all works is there anything that we can give her in writing that she could take with the pony that said that we submitted zero or anything like that yeah right here this proposal tonight is says right here zero increase proposed how much of the increase do you think is because of your um the value of your property you said the value of your property went up too yes yep and that
city tax is based on the increase in value because that's the part that you should call and say you can appeal because I know people that have appealed that and they'll have someone come out and they'll relook at your property or whatever and I know people that have gotten it to go down because the appraisers have come out and they're like oh it is crappier than we thought you know they've just done some automated evaluations they've never actually taken the time to like look per place or whatever so I know some people
that it has worked out for like I said I've never had the cuts to do it but yeah because I'm noticing you know it's there's a percentage based on the increase um like one here went up 5% it's was 20 20% increase um in the value I got my envelope and there wasn't letter in there your red Iron went up um at a 2% increase in value and went up by 177% I didn't even look look at that one yeah because I'd be curious to see what
they're comparing these businesses to to make the value exactly but I have been on the phone I can't to tell you how many count countless times and nobody will give me a straight answer on anything and it's just you know if they can explain it to me so I can understand the reason why I'm you know now have to go back and raise my rents again you know it's just uh it's frustrated it is and $541
just City increase right on that property that just has two apartments in a salon in it you know God I'm afraid to open my business because then they'll probably really raise it again but um try reaching out to Kevin Pat maybe to see if he can point you in the right direct right direction yeah he's the county commissioner for good thunder so what would have happened if we had have put in 10 or 12% increase
here you know I mean we put in in zero and it goes up right you know to get the money they need from their city and and sooner or later you're probably going to have to do that you know things are going to happen we're going to need new new stuff it's going to happen but I'm just afraid we're gonna you know it's going to be hard to bring people out here to live right in in such a small town that really doesn't H that much to
offer so I mean no it's very frustrating when the city or a council works on this to go up zero% and it goes up that kind of money yeah that's just totally wrong and I don't want to hold you guys up anymore but I'm just really surprised I'm the only one here um I'll call Kevin Pat to just out of curiosity but if you find something out will you let me know too because it'd be good to know but we have answers if anybody else does come in and ask why we put in zero but it and I know
the thing that they're going to throw at me now is you missed the December 3rd meeting BL Worth County a couple years back I I had an issue and you could have came to the you know now you can't do anything for another year and they don't budge on that well I'm sure very didn't they used to put percentage a change right on this line too and they don't do that and we're just down here at the bottom and that one at the bottom is for everything combined yep yep but it used to have the
percentages per school for County for good Thunder y they you read that on the top it says proposed though yeah they're just they probably these were probably generated before they actually had that our letter them that too Scott um and the the last G that I talked to said this is pretty much what they're going off with yeah
didn't have on the proposed was the assessments on these statements that they sent did not include assessments um that'll probably change is when the real ones come out that we have to pay we'll have the any assessments on them additional so did the council vote last year 0% as well yep yep that's what's
so you know hard to understand so apparently you know we asked for what our already 39178 391 278 pleas so in order to gain that 3912 78 great like their taxes her taxes went up
30% yeah for us quite a bit your taxes went up 15% or whatever it was I don't remember how can it change that much so I mean property there's got to be properties in town that the tax R know what I'm saying not everybody is paying as much or at all so since we asked for the same
as last year that has to be made up from everybody else you know but that's just for the city's portion I mean that's just the city's portion but Bluth County still is collecting their portion yeah do you remember when the land north of town they had they they wanted that to be lowered Y and how did go you there was a guy from the county said what if that
was lowered the county would make it in so good Thunder wouldn't lose any money coming in so they rob peter they Paul and you keep it all even stepen yeah I don't think that was true what they said either yeah helin want put that new building up that said that should really increase I know well even the gas station should be you know an increase the only thing I can see business-wise that would have
probably gone down in value is the old Dakota Mark the what the Dakota Mark yeah that that would be the only thing I could that can't be 500 700 12200 no I agree I agree red yeah I just what value M have on building on R what value do they put yeah um 120 wasn't it
yeah something 124 thought um 125 two 125 it went um up from 104 to 125 1252 and on my shop my main shop they took that value from 230,000 to 24,500 it was $10,500 in value that that went up but that only went up 15.6 77% so I mean b but your city portion
went up 20% yeah if you take that there yeah yep went from 356 to 4294 which is $727 increase yep which is 20% up 10 five on your value further that's where they're coming up with the sexor funds yeah because your property value went up yeah the thing is the city of good thunder
only asked for so much money and the p is still the same price right so if yours and yours went up somebody's had to go down it is and I don't you know because the total that everybody pays is that 391 278 that's just the way it is you know you know that I was thinking that that guy that's building those buildings up out the shop you know he wants to have three of them but stuff
like this will that deter him to build more because there's going to be quite a great value on them I don't know you know so we got an individual that's going to come and build three nice commercial grade buildings to rent out but will that deter him to build anything else yeah and I mean can BL County answer that question for him I don't know how to fix that though I mean I guess maybe that'd be a question to ask
them what what's decreased in value in town to offset as much as the increases you're talking about when I looked at mine I thought well it went up 12 bucks and I thought well that's okay you know I I expect built my garage that g to be worse I mean really you know it could be if other property values decrease mhm you know MH did you Happ to do the elevator I did
yep um the elevator is at okay their value went up by 34,600 which is a five just a 5% increase on value um and their City portion went up by 21% went up $2,352 overall um 14.78% yeah increase for
them wow I don't I don't know how to explain that either other than as I've said two years ago I I saw the dollar amount was sign they've gone up this significant amount I mean my house that's very reasonable I a that that's my house that's very reasonable well yeah see but that that
there were 160 bucks I think I figured 150 whatever yeah 50 60 bus to me though I'm surprised that that went up that much there too but that's probably percent wise just like mine might went up 12 bucks but your valuation is so much higher you know than mine so well it went down talking down to 310 yeah that's still L higher than mine yeah the rate applied to your valuation
is my address it was like half folded paper with my name and address and but somewhere properties that really went down INX so did you ever meet with the county once already then and they're pretty Stern on this s um this year I've just been on the phone but probably know four or five years ago I went down there and
it was just it was we were just a stending iing now nobody could answer yeah the question really had nobody can answer it problem it just fls me how they can do that so how about uh any other area towns did you do any similar at all I didn't you know you I suppose maybe be Vernon Amboy
Amoy maon I really you know I they're not comparable so I mean I probably could look into that St Clair would be good I know that but I was just wondering you know if their residential and their commercial had such big swings like ours do it's frustrating when you are Frugal with your money and you
don't go up on a tax increase but yet people's taxes for the city of proportion is going up you know when a small City like this and when we're trying so hard to improve and to try to get businesses to come out here this is the kind of stuff a business person looks at is do you know who the main tax person is down there now at Blu county level Mike um stalberg I can talk to him personally Michel he was out here guy transfer to different
people when was he for elections voting yeah yep he was explaining the election process he's the property and environmental manager I did I sleep through that that was a long time ago wasn't it sleep through that oh that was a yeah when they told us it' cost us 20 grand to get back into in-house voting right yeah yeah I don't remember that either it last
year oh I won't hold you up but I just wanted that have been two years ago I would try Kevin Pap because he's he he's County Commissioner for good Thunder buron I don't know where else um see if he can point you in the right direction and then let us know because that that's that's a question I'd like to find out an answer to myself yeah I want to find out the city portion like how they explain how we you know did the zero but they still I mean as far as taxes going up you know same run around I mean it's
the same with mortgages When people's taxes go up if they're living paycheck to paycheck and all of a sudden that goes up a couple hundred bucks a month now all of a sudden we have people selling their houses because they can't afford the mortgages losing them yeah or losing them yeah so I get the taxes part but I'm just curious about the city part about it going up and I I know what Tom's saying with it being one big pot but could they explain like what H like who's like whose values went down that would make it everybody else's share have to go up so much I mean did Farmland value go down did Farmland tax
go down that shouldn't affect do a lot of Farmland in city of good Thunder is that commercial would that be affect a commercial or just agricultural right agricultural so that's not based as that's completely separate Comm commercial then it is but it's taxed at a different rate but it's a much higher rate than residential so because we had that ask you know before because that 324 Acres up there is in there and then some along
the north Edge and I can't remember if some on the East edges in there well the Lagoon is that area Y and I can't remember if that other one on the south side of the road is in city I think part of it is anyway I think that's I was Wonder that's a big chunk that maybe changed I don't know I'm just speculating I don't have no compare guy that Tom mentioned might be the number okay I will do that I'll see what I can find out thanks
guys stalberger or stallberg or something like that is last I think his name is signed on this voting thing yes it is I've seen that already theath oh it's one of the our packet what did you say the name was it's on the back of this one for you here just hang on the voting
one Michael St yeah there it is here's the phone number 304 4257 it is an email too it is 4257 okay gra will text it to you that's fine don't worry all right thank you thank you so if you got any ideas how we can please bu pleas people
and the citizens of good Thunder when we go up 0% but their taxes still go up let us know I don't know how you how you can do that yeah I don't know neither but thanks for your input unless there's more to the story it could be more to the story on a county know or state level I I don't know well maybe you'll have to stay on as an adviser no don't you
count okay anybody else with comment then questions concerns of tax zero tax increase for the city of good Thunder if not then somebody want to make the motion to resolution 20 2420 24 2019 and 2420 I make a motion we open up the food
here did I make a motion yeah he did okay I'll second no oh I made a motionally open food make resolution 202 2419 and 24 okay John made a motion some to second I'll second Tom seconded all in favor say I iose carried any to make a motion to end the
truth and Taxation meeting move Mo a second all in favor I oppose uh makes motion to reconvene our regular special C or regular council meeting Noone second second all in favor all right we're back at regular business approval the minutes from November 12th special meeting and November 12th regular meeting additions
directions to them at all I'll make a motion to um approve the minutes from the November 12th meetings as written I just see here one thing John that uh
down here in this ordinance here for Emery management it had me as there but now and some of this other stuff I can't do it I noticed that too yeah I have I have Point somebody okay next meeting yeah or I don't know our ordinances okay John make a motion to approve both meetings someone the second second all in favor say I I
oppose motion carried of the checks 18306 to 18337 and electronic transfers of 56767 to 56781 and then the following payroll there of of uh fire department and Council check
department is uh 776 to 3795 and council is 3796 to 3800 any questions on the bills at all I had one there um on that ballpark there is that the inside ball Bell did anybody notice the cost of that
$581 they give no itemized all they did is put a vol I couldn't get it off the sewer Piper right there I want to break it but they that's all they did though yeah $581 for one ball is it an inch or was it 3/4 or half it was an inch yeah wow that's kind of very high priced Plumbing I've never heard of Babe Plumbing in there pardon I've never
heard of Babe Plumbing I've seen it driving around what was the other one leaking or didn't shut off or what how's uh snow plow now then has you got
everything fixed up on it then we didn't get everything shorted up on it yet but um the cylinder that he replaced it holds now last year was using that stopped it need a new cylinder wouldn't pressure on the one side anymore then he made a little um bracket or kind of a lever of a spinner on the sander shade level how did you do that when you raise a box
there's like a if you get the geometry right the it's just a bar with two holes in it and as it raises up it I don't know it's get the geometry right on it worked when I used it this past uh when I plow it on was it last week sometime it it worked great so did you put the speed sensor on the end of the augur at all so you can slow down the augur uh no but I went into the controller and I able to tune it down yeah but that one piece was broke
there that's on the end of the augur it wasn't I we haven't been able to find that anywhere I probably I brought that to Chris and they couldn't find really yeah the Sanders 30 years old I don't have the part anymore all right anybody else with questions on bills if not somebody make a motion to approve I'll make uh motion to approve the bills someone the second I'll second it all in favor say I I
oppos motion Carri uh Community comment anybody with concerns issues let chance for you to make the community comment I guess we can move on to Sheriff's Department we had 55 hours of uh of direct Patrol juvenile nuisance disturbance
suspicious vehicle welfare check trespassing h r o assis fire department and ambulance fire department had six calls five medical one lift assist fire department received a $4,000 grant for emergency response equipment Santa will be in good Thunder December 14th from 12:30 to 1 one increase in the good Thunder firemen relief annual benefit from 2200 per to 2500 for vested
eligible member we have a list of them right we have any discussion on that or somebody want to make a motion to that is how long does it take to get invest fully invested I think it's 20
years well yeah full full best in is 20s but I mean when a new guy starts when does he start getting five I think it's five I'm not sure but I think it's five then it's percentage and then nobody was with any questions in uh somebody want to make a motion then to approve that from 2200 to
2500 I'll go ahead and make that motion joh made a motion something a second no second all in favor say I I close motion car read update from race I just with the water meters on there I just wanted to kind of get that onto the record because when we when we got the new system system there's a lot of people around town that were kind of confused to why we up upgraded to what we did um
the F the main reason obviously is that our our reader was outdated um but with this new system we were able to gain a lot of um features like the alarm codes that they told us about when they do all their presentations I just wanted to say as a result of that switch we've I mean the codes have worked out great um we've caught I think seven or eight or nine um I leaks inside houses some of them have been leaks we managed to catch two in
the parsonage so no one's been living there so that's those are two things that I mean they happen right at the beginning of a billing cycle and you know no one's going to know that their water heater valve rusted out or that their toilet was running um we just had another toilet um two weeks ago or last whenever the week of Thanksgiving was um the the family is actually down in Florida and when I went went to you know do the route showed up as a lead code and I I can go to a house individually
that has a code and I can pull a log I can see p the last um either 450 days or I can see the last basically quarter hour by hour so with that you can tell if it's if it's a consistent amount you know that it's probably not a water heater or water softer that keeps regening in the night or something like that so you know as a result of that we're able to um save some residents a lot of money on things they might not have either a known we going on or B had any like I said that family is in
Florida they're they're po was using like 5,000 gallons a day it was ex something like that being able to get in there and um get that shut off for them so they don't come back with a how you know however long they've been gone they got 20,000 gallons or 30,000 gallons used on a toilet just started randomly weaking so I just wanted to put that into the record that it's been I think really really beneficial to the people that we've been able to um catch and prevent you know their bills
from getting really high off of this so God forbid the day you miss one I thought the city was watching my water bill that's the other thing on on S too is if people come in here complaining why if their bill is too high like I said I can go back and pull um it's 450 days or it's three months of hour by hour so I can tell you exactly when race went and showed me yeah that you can see the spikes up and down I can literally if you claim you didn't use
water one day I can I can go and tell you you used water that day or you didn't use water that day so yeah it'll be good you can catch that but I hope people don't get dependent on it you know right I mean do you read once a week or what's your what are your once a week right now that it's colder um I'm going to start do it twice a week um you can you can run a temperature report so you can figure out um it'll the temperature report will show you the
actual water temperature inside the meter it also tell you the um ambient temperature of like the room around the meter so um really yeah your water temperature might be higher but your ambient temperature might be you know 32 degrees or something that means the furnace is out yeah that ambient temperature is your predictor for what it's going to be if you don't make a change so a frozen line yeah yep so what uh what time do you have invested in that to read that once or twice a week oh
it's to go on down maybe 15 minutes to do the lap and then um the if I pull a day log um it goes pretty quick the day log takes probably a minute or two to read that if I pull a hour log um it's closer to four or five minutes but it's really not that much time I think the old system when we were going through with that was like three hours to to read one so yeah we spent a lot of money to
upgrade it so people should be happy that we can detect a leak in their house but you know is there a way you can set an alarm on this so that it will alarm you if there's something crazy it tells you tells you if you read it when I when I go around and read it no but you have to physically go read it to find it it doesn't alarm you that you need to take a look okay it's only as good as the amount of times that you read so if you're not reading often then well there was that one system that would yeah if
we had the top the collector on the tower it read like I think it read like eight times a day or eight times sends a signal to it went to Sue's desk you know that's no but we didn't do that because it was op cost was higher yeah I just hope that this system here is uh adequate for the next 20 years yeah yeah me too because otherwise if you have to upgrade like we did there every 10 holy cow you'll never get a p you know you'll just you'll be going
backwards we get a main that'll show up let actually um we got our first on the AC because we have that acoustic listening for the that'll listen back to the mains um when we got our training for that you there's a dashboard that shows the meters that are in high noise level it that could just necessarily mean that not necessarily there's a leak but you know the the way it's listening is just based off of the vibrations that it feels through the pipe so obviously
higher vibration something louder so if it's just a high noise level meter I mean you could have a someone could have a fan that's next to it that just is close enough to Rattle that a little bit um on that dashboard also there's a category that it calls meters of interest and what that is it the system uses an algorithm to I guess look at because the other thing is that the material for your service line is going to result in different noises so copper is going to be whatever to plastic which
going to be whatever to Le or Galvanize or anything like that um but this meters of Interest takes whatever information that the camrip is um inputed into it and um it can pretty accurately detect the leak so we actually got our first one of I guess our first hit on that um for a house on South Halliday that we're going to be when I went out there I mean obviously you'll never know until you you dig it up and see if there's actually a leak there but when I went
out there there's one little patch of green grass in their yard and the ground is sinking right at that spot so um I guess tomorrow we'll find out if that how accurate that is um I'll be curious if it if it is I mean that'll be I mean it's a useful asset to have yeah so that's before the meter yep yep and the individual you contacted that was been leaking for a long time right
when it shut off ah when it was shut off that's what I heard you according to your logs yeah I don't know what what would they waiting for why why wouldn't we fix it you know four or five years ago you know why why wait you know now it's going to be winter course ground will be thr out a little bit around it but thinking can good bye until spring but I mean I don't it's hard to say what if I look at the um the
dashboard I mean you can see that going to pull it out you can pull it up and you can see they can see what it looks like but when I look at the this one I don't have it on this one that's on Google you just go to cst's website but that's a city's Bill there yes because there's no water going to the meter that's right yeah that's right y we're losing water there yeah yeah you could see on it shows you on a chart that it shows what the noise level is and the way that they just they trained or when they did our training they said
that kind of a if it's a gradual increase that's probably more indicative of a leak rather than it spiking up a bunch so the increase would be that as the the hole is getting bigger it's making more noise because more water is running out and that works on plastic line too yeah really wow like I said they got a whole it's a whole algorithm and I couldn't tell you what what all they put in it but um I guess tomorrow we'll see um well I
mean if it is like I said if it is then that'll be it's a good resource to have wonder how many gallons Brian's Pump in a day is that down um I have no idea usually about 42 44 5,000 I've never asked him I know with with that um that toilet that was that did the 5,000 gallons day um when I called him and told him about that he did say that he noticed a um an increase
for the last couple days that was that corresponded with um the days that that toilet was running so so what is that going to cost that home owner for the couple days there at 10,000 gallons I have no idea I mean I can figure it out I don't know it's not going to be cheap no it's not no I think because I think I caught it at the like the second and a half day so it was probably closer to 15 or 17,000 wow that's like I said that's
just off those three days that's not including any prior usage before or after well whatever it is is better than two months of it right right or a flooded basement when they I mean you know guess if I was G I would just shut my main water off coming into my house if you're gone for 7 to 10 days you know but anyway um at least we found it with with our high-tech equipment so spending all that money wasn't in vain it helped
that individual have you heard much about monthly billing versus quarterly billing is good idea bad idea I haven't heard anything um there is a letter I think in your packets that I'm going to send out I want to get that out this week and then do you think I should send another one out in January I thought about sending another one out in January um just so that there's enough notice and we'll put it on her Facebook maybe I don't know we put it paper I I don't know how many people
actually get the messenger I don't either um website we'll put it on Facebook I'll send out two notices one this month one next month and then yeah I think we'll go from there that's fine sounds good all right anything else reace uh there's something about um parking signs parking sign parking signs onard gram I just heard about this today
so I'm not familiar yeah that's right up there by my the corner of the shop there there's going to be new people living in that one house and uh it's always been no parking or nobody on the streets but if they start parking Vehicles everywhere kind of tough when we're trying to make a corner to get backed into the shed so was just wondering if for the first maybe uh 70 100 ft or so it could be no parking on each
side do we have to how do we make that motion to put signs up yeah that would be a council Direction anybody got any problem with that or here's a diagram if anybody wants to see it where they're actually going to put them like to put them yes yes who is at that business who wants to put at the business that want no no it's it's
coming down uh Willard Street where my daughter lived they they want the no parking signs there no we do don't putter up the intersection too bad and because there isn't much parking in the driveway but uh even for snowplowing I see the sheriff got the moved yep yep yep that was very nice of them he sent out emails to resident said head trailers yeah Park
on you you guys can F this anyway right back well it was by the more they sell it y oh someone buy it well they're working at it
oh part of it it's half of well no a third of it no yeah third of it is third of it yeah no parking just in this area yeah just from here to there and from there to there yeah so it be 100 feet one place and probably about uh 75 on the other yeah there 10's right over here right no or wait this is Sherman yeah
okay yeah I don't see a problem like with that being said then somebody want to make a motion to approve to put up you could put the sign on one sign that's existing you probably have to put one pole in or the other one somebody want to make a motion then to approve two no parking signs in that strip of Ward Street and it's going to save from you know the sign's going to save no parking here to corner corner
okay yeah so move someone a second I'll second all in favor say I I I will abstain that motion cared then anything else in race oh that's all I have um anybody got a update from Brian at all nothing no not is the is the fence all up down there at the by the gate yeah it is all I didn't
couldn't really see there okay yeah it's kind hard to see is V is the gate working yes good looks nice from the street or from the road now Brian that's when I was talking to Brian asking if he was going to come today um he did want to say thank you for putting that in he's been he's been really happy with it so well that'll keep the deer hunters out there next year which was a problem for two years in a row okay unfinished business we have
dooda Mart the next steps we have a another letter in our packet what our options are I didn't put the letter in your packet I just wrote what your options were where's a where's your chance to talk I don't need a chance to I just
talk direct we did um they did a discovery the next steps are to either wait and see what the other judgments come up with your parents are post judgment
Discovery andest request for disclosures or the city can assign it to a debt collector those are basically your options but the last later they never responded you right no they they responded yeah but now this is the judg to stop we sent a discovery but we didn't send a post judgment one is there is there two
or three people ahead of us on list for as far as the money i' say I want to go with at least three that's what I was thinking at least three yeah however though there is nobody ahead of us on what Lyn cosigned right right my knowledge there's nobody ahead of that one I didn't hear what you said there's no one ahead of us on the document that Lynn co-signed that was between the city city yeah correct but
in order to go after assets I think then you get into that well right but there's a lot of assets right yes we assume there are yes would like whatever the city decides they want to do he would like Motion in the minutes and then um he will do what council suggests I mean does anybody know that the other
lenders how far they are in the process is there does anybody know anything well I think one of the judgments might have been satisfied that was the sale of some property I thought I saw maybe and it still gets back to that that liability of that tank under the ground there you know who Who's Who in
the in the end when this is all settled out who's going to be responsible to get that out of the ground the owner of the property yeah but they can't even pay debt yeah I don't know if that I don't buys the property will have to be the city will not be liable for that to gas I don't think anybody who even you gave it to them will want that property with that tank in the ground and it stays there no can't got to be closed within how long oh it should have been things
should have been happening already it wasn't properly shut down or they could have bought more time if it's empty for what five yeah it's that now long enough for now it's got to be pulled somebody's got to pull it somebody's got to pay for that debt well the was it the EPA could come in and do it and then charge it back to the property owner the super fun cleans up only if it's dirty right Tom if the soil is contaminated don't kicks in I believe
for that but the like uh urban oil shut down his he dug his tanks out of the ground over there um voluntarily I think to be able to sell the property yeah did you ask him what what that no I did not no I totally no about curiosity I'm sure you're going to spend what 15 20 grand to get that out of the ground I would guess yeah y I would
think long as there's no contamination that's right but then the super fund would help clean up that dirt yeah so again we're sitting there with a dead horse because nobody's going to want to try to buy it uh somebody pointed out to that back side of that building's crumbling away oh yeah it's crumbling so I mean well well I guess there's one way to
look at it if we keep pursuing it and we get some money the city could utilize that money to access the property clean it up and then do something with it that's assuming we ever get anything like the money that was owed to the city and Bluth County yeah that's kind of just dissipated right yeah we paid it we paid it yep the city paid for that that's all cleaned up I mean we're the
ones that are on the hook here now yeah and so if we can continue in my opinion whatever the next step is we should do it and uh hopefully we'll get something better than nothing better than nothing but you know 10 grand at least that'll go towards that project maybe you know maybe it'll be viable then you know what I mean if it's not taken care of you know and the inside is not heat is going
to crumble it's the roof is gonna y I'm sure that's happening already when you walk by that the inside of the windows are all um cond condensations built up on them all the way around yeah it's going to be a blight or okay it really is already you know yep so did weet a letter about cleaning up along the outside any correspondents back
no so to move forward we have to do one of the next two options you have one of three options you wait you prepare and serve the post judgment Discovery and request for disclosure or you can assign it to a debt collector I don't think it does us any good to go do a debt collector no absolutely not and there'll just be a dead end yep I think we got to they'll get paid for yeah and we'll get nothing right yeah so number the second
option second one there have you had a deal with any of this Amy in your line of work I've always had people try and sell before they get to this point okay yeah I think the second option is probably the best one because uh wait and see we've been waiting what
already and again when an individual cos signs man that's gold I think it is yeah it should beuming liability yeah should be it should be yeah so do does a city pursue then going to the cosigner versus the owner of the building it goes to both when you do this they did go to both yes it did okay and this will go to both as
well and the cosigner no response either I mean they did the the Judgment this you know but they didn't are they did the discovery but they didn't do the post judgment Discovery my understanding well I think that's what we should do yeah I'll make a motion that we have him have um Chris prepare and serve that post judgment Don made the motion someone to
second I'll second it John second all in favor say I I opposed motion carried want to keep right on going down here this is where you can talk Sue about all this stuff here no I wrote it down oh well this ordinance ad administrative penalties uh input from you guys what do
you think about that we had to do something so the ordinance is yeah I mean the ordin that are in there are just like Kennedy came up with um there's going to have to be more discussion obviously on how you guys want to handle that um you were meeting in had meetings in other towns and they have these a different Law Firm representing them can
they get their properties cleaned up some of them do um some of them don't yeah wonder if you would say if they have a little more success than what we have try well I think if we I think we need to be more assertive with what the council wants from the attorney on Nu properties you're talking
about yes yes because from my understanding is like the way we have it now is somebody goes around and then they just send the letters but my understanding it should be bring it to the council Council decides and then because the letter State under the direction of the council you're getting this letter and then if it's not cleaned up then we can like a on we can have race go in in Moet and then ass charge the resident whatever that fee is and there's a fee in our fee schedule for
that yeah Council are not supposed to go look at that property now correct well once it's reported you decide what you want to do so I think it would be like Amboy I was just talking to um Patty and her and the city Guy They'll drive around check out properties they send a letter if it's a lawn or something if they don't clean it up an next them on a day they can get a fine they can come and plead their case to the council and say Hey you know I need more time they don't have a plan if they have a plan it's
fine as long as they fulfill their Duty and if not then they have it mowed for them I mean the charge the mowing the lawn or whatever that's that's an easy cut and dry thing but but the when it comes when you get property personal property then you're having to do that abatement and going through all of those steps and I know from past experiences here it almost sounds like it gets to that point and then it's just dropped and I don't know if that's
because I don't know yeah if it's the attorney that I I don't know I mean if if you look at some properties and I had live beside that I wouldn't want to live there either it's it's just there's one property that has a bunch of bicycles a down tree that's been down for what two years the next one too it's got kids toys laying all over the front lawn just put them in the
B put the stuff in the back you know I don't know how people live like that um you got other ones that uh you know they got they're parking on their front lawn now you know and uh riding their motorcycles turn up the grass there will be no grass I mean how do you would into some of this when the motorcycles are riding on Sunday afternoon tearing up and down the neighbors don't like the noise well
number one the parents would say well you're tearing up the lawn I don't think they care the front lawn or the back lawn all of it all above oh and that's not very far from town motorcycles shouldn't be allowed in the city well they shouldn't be tearing up the yard it's no whatever that's a nuisance that's not yeah we we got a group of about three
little guys and well they're probably 16 now that are on nice days Roar around on their motorcycles and there's three-wheelers and whatever they can make run and uh they never get caught at it so I don't know it's frustrating yeah how do you catch it that's I mean like if you call the cops are obviously gone yep but will the cops take pictures or you know video or I don't know I was
always told just to keep calling every time you see them whether they're there when the cop comes or not um and I've actually had a couple conversations with some of these individuals and it seemed to get better this summer at my where I live um but now one night we were coming home when it was dark and we almost hit three of them because there were no lights he turned the corner and they're right there they're not stop so I don't know I don't know how to fix it and if somebody hits them it's going
to be the drivers exactly unemp of driving 55 hours of BL County policing as well keep calling they're going to have to be here to and that's it the more the more paper trail we can give the more times they call the more and more we can call eventually they are because they know where these individuals live yeah and eventually I mean if has a log of when they're doing stuff then the cops can start to see a pattern too like oh if I'm here at this time or right this
place yeah I mean I know there's probably some tolerance that you have to deal with and there's one day I watched three of them RI down the countyy old and the sheriff came right behind him and just did their thing and he just got with our BL County Le on and I met him the other day he actually stopped at my house I was kind of surprised wanted to introduce himself
and we talked quite a bit well I don't know again those nuisance properties the the poor individuals they got to live next to them well so like do we start one by one I mean sometime like if we take on if it seems like if we talk about like 10 properties then we kind of just give up but should we just you know prioritize them and start dealing with them or we have to have a process to deal with them
is where we're at because the process we have right now is not working and somewhere in here I read that Tom was mentioning about maybe having curbside pickup once a month well maybe not during the winter time but during from April to October is that something that would would be beneficial to beneficial to the property owners that hey they know they can set this out and get rid of it I think it would help yeah if nothing else at least then that could be
included in the in the court proceedings when you go a bait you know you that could be part of it saying that the city provides free pickup at your curb site and you don't take advantage of it and that's why we had to go do it you know what I'm saying yeah that would be I mean I think that' be money well spent and it would help everybody too I think everybody in to appreciate it I I do like that idea but not in the winter time no I agree yeah not in the winter time so it's a different entity
though for a licensed vehicle correct compared to personal property right we can we can't go in and take anybody's personal property well if they have a junk car sitting there with expired tabs and that we can report to the Sheriff's office should be able to be towed at their expense if you don't want to pay it you put it on their property taxes they got to pay it if it's on the street it can be towed if it's on their property I don't think they can go in and just city ordinance has something on there that you can't
have because we've got that camper setting out there we can't touch we we can't we can't touch personal property so if it's on you know my house if I have an old know whatever city has no right to come onto anybody's property but doesn't have to be currently licensed I think for the ordinance yeah for the ordinance it has to be a licensed it has to be licensed like that camper we have no options that's the license we can it can be towed but then City's got to pay the
towing and the storage for exponent it's like that abatement process but would the individual ever sign it over to the city I don't know we talked about that last month you got a $100 bill in your bucket well that's right I forgot my wallet that's right we did yes we did I mean I said yeah I got one you got one yeah I mean we just keep running into these roadblocks where we it's like we don't think we're doing our job and uh I talk
to him he said that he's got experience well he was a good Thunder top at one time mapon mapon y he talked about how they've handled stuff over there yeah they've got stuff in storage almost two years I asked and and the same problem house is starting to look what when they cleaned it up they have enjoying you guys want something down here they got to pay that it's different
than getting just a bill you assess it to their property tax they have to pay that in about in about eight years they do you want some $3 a month or $3 a year for the next 30 Years that works that maybe it's a worth of having him come to one of our meetings yeah explain his experience an ordinance meeting or something that would it's got there's crackers there
too so we always we always attempt to try to fix these but we always get stalled out we just we just well the reason we do get stalled out is because there's always that threat of at costing the city money I think we got to get past that you just have to get past that threat you got got to find you got to spend some money the city can be put on their city property taxes still going to get to them at least then you have
eventually a little bit of power maybe to go after yeah if they can't do it on self- Pride I guess hurt them on their property taxes well like pocketbook last month we talked about the stuff around the Dakota Mart you know well there's a lot of stuff in it well if you just pick up what's on the outside and put it in inside Le the outside would look neat but we sent a letter but nothing happen there's well
then environmental aspect part of it aren't the old gas pumps still sitting back there absolutely y that's ridiculous yeah you should not have been able to sit there that long no they should just be hauled five miles to the East and turned in for cash yeah I mean we stall out every time we try and like Tom says yeah we got to get to the point where are is somebody going to sue us for trying to do anything I mean that's that's just still we have to just do
it get get the attorney pay the attorney to send a letter in a legal way however many it takes two three 10 whatever it takes with teeth in it like you said and and uh at drop dead date we go to the back of the Dakota Mar or whatever and blow it up and take it away it's gone that's just the way it is so is that something that we want to have instead of me sending the letters maybe we want to hand some of those over to Kennedy and just let
him take it you know what I'm saying well if that's what it takes I think that's what it's going to take I think so we've already we've already tried that I mean we I mean I've been sending letters and I know yeah I had gotten a letter or two since I've lived here and it's I've heard it's like the joking town when I first moved here the letters because nothing happen right send a letter the year you'll get another letter yeah so I think uh let's get the directive from the
lawyer a little more just make it happen just make it happen not Direction Just let's do this all the time we spent going through the codes and everything before I mean we've all few of us put quite a bit of time trying to read through them trying to make something happen out of it like see that picked up again and I don't who we have to take them to to find out what teeth we can put into that otherwise you're throwing them into the wind and watching them fly away that's yeah if if if if Chris
can develop a letter Ethan to send to these to this person that we're talking about then give us the ordinance example that they that it will work get it passed and then the next time we'll be able to do it and you know rather than we just keep going around and around and back and forth and back and forth lawers you know so you Che we talk about it
each Che it's Shrugged off so can you make a motion to have him draft up those letters because I know when last time I talked to him he'd like some of the stuff in motion for him in motions in the minutes just for documentation purposes I'll make a motion so Tom made that motion someone a second what is the motion for to have Kennedy draft a letter are we talking to specific property right now no I think you should do Citywide well I'm thinking of I'm talking about the ones that we've got
that you've sent letters to already y that are problems there's like three or four I think that we've been dealing with every year those are the ones that have been brought to us verbally in Council meetings many times seems like they do a little bit and then you start the whole process over and I've just noticed that I like well that one looks a little better now that's good and I'm like like hm so yeah well he should put something together that's legal and binding yeah well that's what I'm saying
that has because and then it comes from him to the resident it doesn't come from the city it comes to him or from him well it be statutes or counties yeah me cookies are good too what did you say Tom it' be from the city yeah but it would be his action but it's not say by you she go yeah these um are just pass there's only that's the only way you're going to get
it you know because you know you you've taken already and to Chris what we've talked about in those meetings and then he's coming back with more you know let's just let's just end that let's just make a motion that we want to get this cleaned up get a letter made that we'll make that happen if we can't by our ordinances make that happen give us the ordinance that will make it happen then we can go three months from now after we have do the notice and all that
in the paper the get ordinance changed we'll be able to do it come spring and if we can do it now we can get it going now you know it's done yes it's going to cost a couple Grand but that's just the way it is you know yeah sometimes there's a hang up on the city paying money but I think like um the city people are you know there's some stuff that the city people are willing like like yeah our tax that's what we do want our tax doll I think so too I agree with you 100% protect your investment in your
property so along with that if we chose to have herbs side pickups St starting April 1st what once a month once whatever you guys decide yeah whatever once a month I think we need to get pricing from ljp or whoever we're GNA have to do that I have been playing phone tag with Jesse for the past three weeks but so if it's cost effective to do it you know once a month then we can do it once a month you know and probably also depends on how much people put out too I
would every other month too you know yeah or maybe the first two or three months in a row and maybe like the last three a couple on the end of the year at least at least at least schedule a spring one and see what's out and then maybe you won't have to do it the next month maybe you can wait a month or whatever and then do a fall one or something like that you know you can kind of decide as it flies well if we can bring back the curbside for the clean for the spring cleanup which is what I left my message to Jesse about
that we wanted that back that's more successful and then maybe we only need to do it a couple more times they come to you to pick it up they're gonna at least get it to the curb y it to the ball field is for some people well I said I'm not going to do that I'll throw stuff out on the curb I'm not going to drive my stuff down there if I have the ability to drive my stuff down there I have the ability to drive it to so yeah I mean when it was Cur down there without leaving tone exactly when it was Cur pick up I would
throw there's people yeah that don't have the the ability to throw it in a truck and haul it down there I don't have that thing is it's not the cost of it to the community I don't understand why ability you can take a half pick up full down to the land don't cost it's nothing it don't cost anything you know I mean it's just you just got to dump it out it's not so I guess we need to keep calling them people and we need to set that up and just so we can say come spring we will
be returning to curbside pickup it'll make it more viable for you individuals or citizens of good Thunder clean up your properties I think a lot of people would be happy with that and you know I would think we'd want to maybe do it three times I think it would hurt I don't think so either try it yeah you know even if you get some stuff you don't really want big deal at least you got it out of town yeah you know can you back to the letter Tom made
the motion did anybody second it I'll second it John did all in favor say I I oppos motion carried where we at city park agreement no what where we at the City Park Agreement you missed um you go back to to the agenda Robert yeah underneath the Cota Mar you have the employee raises yeah we I haven't left unfinished
yet I was just going down this emergency this one here um for next month when we start new year we can name somebody as the emergency management management director as it does it does default I talked to Patty and Amboy it defaults to the mayor if it has not been appointed you don't I know Kennedy's letter said I can't be it I
know and according to the other cities that I checked it defaults or it's the fire chief or it defaults to the mayor if it has not been appointed see that's the way that's the way it's always been is that defaulted May defaulted to Robert yeah or to the mayor whoever the mayor is yep yep been that way for so 30 years yep okay well then we'll work at that uh cannabis ordinance I put that in an addition
tonight I put it out there and it's just something for you guys to review we can we'll look at it next year but you asked me to get something put together so I had Kennedy draft that I'll get you a copy of it and you can you know I think you the city needs to do something with that that can be all done at the same time as if we have all the ordinances together Y how does that work if the the state is going to allow it can the city is this for selling cannabis products in town sing it growing It
Whatever yep yep so would you have different guidelines in the state or do you just follow State well I mean we can decide whether how far away from a school it has to be oh okay how far away from well we don't have a school school that's that ordinance yeah how far from dayc carees um churches any parks things like that how you can have in your town right um some like I know that ordinance he's got it limited to two but you can limit it to one yeah I I
see man was limited to theirs to what three four something four so personally I can't see this coming to good Thunder not more than one not more than one I mean the only place business-wise would be Marines Bank building you know but but a lot of other questions in here because this is a lot of gobbly for that doesn't say a lot to me anyway um but like what
if we get somebody who wants to do a grow in their house you know I think I think this one we need need to have Kennedy here to that's all state but you I think you can as an individual person you can have some in your house up to a certain up to a certain amount and I don't know but I thought according to the state it was four you could have four in your house plans yeah yeah is that what it is I don't know I don't know either well well thing is you can't say it can't happen look at look at nicholet
with a with a nudie bar yeah you know like probably couldn't happened there but here this big outfit come in there and Y never know that hit a lot of small towns back then and then we put that in our ordinance as adult entertainment we adapted that so yeah something we'll have to work on this too in the New Year yep I think yeah that's I think we need Kennedy is that all right with everybody all right that was just for yeah for um information yep all
right then under under finished business employee raise John and I we met and uh reviewed some stuff John do you want to take it from there um yeah so we are going to do raises for both race and um um so thank you wow day um Su for 2% raised for one and
a half and then do we need motion to do that oh and effective October 1st because that's when we talked about that meeting was right retroactive retroactive October one any discussion on that if that's all right everybody uh some me make a motion to approve moove comeing to second I'll second it all in favor say I I iose motion
carried City Park Agreement or ordinance review update that's what we were already talking about City Park Agreement um yeah we got the signed agreement back from the Catholic church that's all good to go for another 15 years good that's all that is okay uh new business we' got Minnesota waste processing price increase yeah that should be in your
packet that it that's right here what does it come out to be per a total of 3.1 3.1 yeah 356 per ton The Tipping fee is 118 so what would this be for household that we'd have to go up to do we have to raise ours a little bit we already raised ours yeah
we did raise our some we RA are we going to be enough to cover this then we should be because once in a while we were falling short right I think maybe you can wait and see how it falls out we can review it like mid year or something to see where it's at but uh cuz like clean up and all that that's that comes out of that comes out of a different pot general fund general
fund enough discussion on that we can go to updated ESS to include rement yeah that's the yellow the red portion in that just now that it includes funerals anybody else got need questions on it if
not um do we have to have a motion on that too prob yes tell me make a motion to update that BSS I'll make a motion to include the bement leave uh John made motion something a second second Tom second all in favor say I I carried uh letters to monthly we already discussed that we had a copy of it our thing cannabis ordinance we already
talked about that blor County election amendment number one voter account agreement regarding the cost for the elections and I need to have those back by the end of December I have to get those back to Cony there was nothing that really changed on these right these are just different formula they're using yeah and then it
gives them the ability to change it if they need to okay us as a city would we ever go back to voting here in the council rooms anybody got thought about that to be honest with you I wonder if that could come nationally that's right that could happen that's because uh they really are
uh against this mailin voting and I mean myself I thought it was handy because if you wouldn't have to be there that day you're they're done but there's no you know you can also go to the courthouse and probably have it done yet but myself I think it will come back to be in locally hope does I mean kind of reality after not this past one but the one before that election there there was a lot of stuff going on that should have
never happen so I mean that guy that stalberger whatever you name I thought he said us two years ago Tom that would cost us 20 grand to get back into the into the having our own because you need that reader thing or but I mean if it comes as a mandate from you know the it could be different you know could be funding for it then too I would sure not uh ever count that
out back either I think it would be for security reasons I think it's better off in-house voting I gu so does it mention anything in all this doesn't say anything about any of that right no I read of some of it but yeah that's pain it's painful reading yeah it is
this painful through the classes sometime L we got pass that we got to make a motion or something correct yeah right resolutions yep I'll make a motion there isn't no numbers to them just uh no these are the conies so I don't have numbers okay made a motion some a second I second all in favor say I I oppos car
all right miscellaneous business anybody else under new business anybody uh miscellaneous business is Click mileage which we had in here too anybody questions on that if not somebody make a motion to approve for Sue for the month of October and November and one December so Move Motion someone
second John second all in favor say I I carried um pette Nelson has always been taking care of that down there and we always a little something and then winners uh Jay winners he's always been going they through the cemetery on both
sides there I guess Ron call told me today we've been getting him something for maintaining that you remember that I don't remember that I don't either sure yeah pull up always got her something certificate or something y yep um Jay's Mo that out there ways is that something we should do there um I don't I don't recall we're doing
that that I have no idea which which them we talking about the one out on uh going North by Jay's house he's kind of keeps that down out there I guess there's been no record of it I don't probably not legal if there's been no record of it I don't believe that I don't believe we ever did no it was always what Paul that that's yes we have yeah and is there anybody else that we have else that we should recognize I
don't know because of their individual [Music] helping Tom Bruns and Jen was helping PA it take care of them while we're boxing well yeah there was they had there's a handful handful of people that you know but I think Vicky was helping too Paulette she was the one down there in that corner by that monument that kept that all up in and she purchases them all too she does all the work on getting
the flowers I mean she's reimbursed for it obviously reimbursed yeah she go see all the work so at this time does somebody want to make uh uh what kind of like a $50 to take get at the ca or something whatever yep nice so move where at the ca for who pette pette yeah you said that motion yeah I said all right Tom made a motion something a second second Amy second all in favor say I I oppose most carried all right anything else
stand under unfinished business or miscellaneous business we have one more thing here who me no just get the fart you want the cookies back race you want one pepper those are like my favorite
Christmas cookies you want a cookie are you sure you want Jim sorry not too B that's not a that's not an insult that's a compliment well after 29 or 30 or 28 and a half or whatever years there is uh we got a
little plaque for Tom FR here tonight recognize what he's done this commitment for the city of good Thunder and it's time and next year and the year out you'll still have more time so at this time Tom we'd like to uh thank you very much for all of your commitment and your dedication to the city of G Thunder thank you very
much because uh you are our math wizard which I think we got a good one down there coming on um and you contributed an awful lot to the city for all the years you've served here I appreciate that on behalf of the city and the council thank you much thank you put the put the CL there there okay there you go all right good job thank you very
much yeah you know you know being on counseling on a long time like it's addicting you're almost addicted to it well you know yeah you gotta get it another 10 years okay almost addicted to it because it's uh there's something thrilling about the whole thing you know I mean sometimes it's really a pain but but you mean like the last year and a half well yeah but no otherwise again like I told you you
know I was going to be done too but you kind of said we shouldn't both quit in the same year so you know um well I thought I I'll stay for two mon years and uh and you look forward to it it's something you know you can it is it's a good service you pride yourself on it you know I mean Al and I came into this thing the city only had probably about anywhere from 50 to
$75,000 worth of worth now I see you know we've had a few years we spent a lot of money we had 1.5 right at the time but now we're down to about 1.2 and you know because but we spent a lot of money on Steward a lot of project we have done still in 30 years paid a lot of money yeah yeah and made the town and and did a lot of projects too did a lot of projects too yes
absolutely you have to consider you kept the fire department going and yep you know all the city services do all that you know and we got the sheriff's department it's just like going down the Lagoon putting a generator in there now putting that treatment in there now we're good now for a long time you know um if and we're still continuing on I and I to make make it better you know to be able to handle the
water so over the last 30 years there's been a lot of things that have made improvements except for cleaning up property so again Tom Fric thank you very much for all your you're welcome thank you thank you I'm sure it's a it can be a thank CL job but sometimes yeah it's usually not too bad but you're still going to be welcomed back for special committees and
anytime you spare time on your hands you never know how about Grand writing you were done a very successful job at that when you were on the fire department I mean Andy I know it's a whole lot different now now is it yeah they they talked to me a little bit about that and it's a little quite a lot different than now there really they really dig into the city's finances and stuff like that now they did that before and so and that harms us if we would be broke with no get more Grant you'd get
more Grant y you could it might be yeah the advantage of having money though is that it it gives you the freedom to write a grant because the match you know you have yeah you know you don't have to like that's very true $5,000 is the city going to come up at 25 well of course they can you know in order to get a quarter million yeah 25 Grand it's nothing you know yeah but even having that money on hand when it's time to put a gate on Lagoon
put all that treatment in we probably got what we're going to have uh we're going to have 25 30,000 in that least oh I think we're over that so you know we have that money in the bank that we don't have to oh God we got to go out and bond for this money because we can't put a gate in so you know we've always had a cash Reserve that we've been very frugal in keeping and uh we have no bonds right now to beat we are debt free as of what two years ago already yeah y
think so but I mean you know if they come along and we need to replace it going down holiday no holiday you know that might be have to do to make it right so well when I first got on I I took Kathy Hansen's place and she took put me aside and she says don't you ever let the city get in the position again where they have no money yeah she went through that where they had no money new none so wow I'd
say it was anywhere from 50 to 75,000 is all they had in the positions I mean that was in the reserves oh okay you know they had their operating money but as far as are like our 1.2 or whatever been $75,000 you couldn't you couldn't decide to do anything no I mean you know you couldn't you couldn't do anything be proud of
them so yeah this may be your last meeting Tom unless we want to do some ordinance stuff here well you never know what you'll be here January why I'm here tonight yeah we'll be setting up our two band committees in January you know and uh um there's a Lany in there anything we can approve
upon then you know is that what in there a Litany of things we have to do first so all right well if there's nothing else Tom do you want to make your last motion I'll make that motion to adjourn all right some in the second second joh second all in favor say I motion carried thanks every