standing for a moment silence I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the for which it stands one nation God [Music] indivisible thanks everybody okay approval of the agenda I was wondering since Joe is here
could we maybe just move him up like right after C so he could is Brian gonna be here I said not till 7:30 oh okay any where he want sir well I mean a Joe could get this done I mean you think there's anything that you and Brian would have to talk between you it might be good if it overlapped a little bit but right really what I'm gonna go through is where we're at with the projects and and the P es that are
on the agenda so that that one require Brian's attention well we'll leave it where it is then sound good somebody make a motion to approve the agenda I'll make a motion to approve the agenda somebody Mo uh somebody second all in favor say I iOS motion carried approval of the minutes from last month any additions Corrections for those minutes some if not somebody make a motion to approve approve them move a second second all in
favor all in favor say I motion car um approval of the bill checks 18236 to 18277 and electronics is uh 570 567 32 to 567 52 and payroll of 5119 to 50013 any
questions on that if not may make a motion to approve to approve someone second second all in favor I post anybody in community comment yeah just real quick um I want to bring situation um you guys that I'm having in regards to um my rental
inspection um I got the application information from see back in May and then on June 19th I had my rental inspection through with Jud and I still haven't received anything back from them and calls have been placed messages left and I know I'm not the only landlord in town that hasn't received anything back yet um I don't know what else to do I
mean I've left messages and and and the reason why this is kind of an issue for me is I have a situation with one of my tenants that I want my inspection to help deal with a problem that I'm having and I have nothing to be able to show him that Jud he is not around or does not respond I actually talked to him over over the phone and uh he said oh um I thought we did those did we forget
about you guys and that was back [Music] on that was well over a month ago when I talked to him well over a month probably two months ago he hasn't I don't think they've been out and done anything have they I haven't heard anything evidently I'm supposed to get a copy of the inspections but I haven't heard they did my um two properties the bank and the Sherman Street and they did all the apartments over here and they haven't
received theirs either really I I don't know what you guys would recommend I I do from here send a letter or I mean I don't know it's going to do any good well I think the city should send a letter and I can reach out on Wednesday I can call up there and see and I won't I know last time I had a hard time getting a hold of him I just called whoever answered the phone and I said this is my situation and then I got somebody so um I will give them a call on Wednesday
yeah it's all yeah all right thank you take care that thank you um Sheriff's Department 60 hours assist other law enforcement paper sta civil disturbance suspicious person and direct Patrol any questions on that fire department had eight calls medical uh pancake breakfast is October 27th from 9: till
noon any questions on that uh we're down to street department and race oh well we they're working on getting the fence wired up and ready to go or the new gate right up um down the ponds and then I talked to Pat Chambers yeah I think it was the end of last week it must have been just trying to get an idea of what extension of the me um to the South and he said pretty much whenever we're we have everything
lined up and ready to go that they can they don't have any projects left in the year that are going to get in the way of it so they can get down here as soon as we're we're almost as soon as we're ready so and we have all the uh easements and everything then right we've got them to the the resents or the tenants of the property the property owners think Donovan companies last week and I
had to do they wanted something changed in that easement so I sent it back had it changed and they said it's they would sign it and get it back to me okay so I'll reach out again tomorrow on Wednesday I know where that's at because they just wanted the word they wanted to change from I think Donovan companies to feral gas I guess I don't know probably there was something in there that we have to change so and does uh Chambers know we want that outlet for the locker plugged at that new main yeah because otherwise you
just got a leech out there that could there's actually two spots Mr May or the one that you just identified and then uh also I forget the name of the need to get well yeah so it'll be two spots where they're digging up kind of the blanket they put down yeah okay just make sure we got that done that's critical otherwise yeah like you said all that Old Clay pipe still still be taking water on M yep have you noticed since that project course it's awful dry
that the water I we've been trying to get a hold of coret quality flow because the flow meter we're pumping like 35,000 gallons a day from the wellhouse it's doubled that out at the pond and I keep seeing the indication that there's a reverse flow so whether there a bad check valve and the water gets keeps getting pumped and pumped and pumped and the total's off so I can't give you up for at least October and the last part of September an accurate number for what's coming out to the pond and I don't know Cory got a hold of you
but I texted him and he has not I try calling him back tomorrow it's really uncharacteristic of him usually he's really on top of things so maybe he's out of commission or on vacation or something but we'll get on that as soon as we can he said it's double it's not right though because I we're not we're not pumping it at the wellhouse so where would it come from been no rain all right um race uh any questions on
the building perits was to anybody got any questions on the building per minut everything meet the set
back move a second second say I I will since one of them is mine um anything else in race all righty uh Brian and Joe I can give you a couple updates so one
thing that we have going on is a week from Thursday we're going to have an mpca inspection so it's our annual inspection us and P and getting it on the same day they're going to start here at 9 o'clock on Thursday the 24th we'll finish up over in pton after that's done so no surprises I'm not expecting anything um when she reviewed the last couple years data she'll talk about our exceedence for phosphorus ask us if we have a plan in place which we do I'll take her out Shore the new equipment that's running right home so I don't expect anything really
uh unexpected from the audit all my ducks are in a row um let's see I already mentioned that the influent flow meter were trying to get them to come down and take a look at that I've also been trying to get uh calibration records from them uh they're supposed to be doing it every six months and I don't think we've received a copy of that for about a year so well they just forgot right is that right at the lift station down there mhm okay okay
yeah there's a underground flow meter electric flow meter okay ultrasonic and so um I'm trying to get a hold of him for that uh the other project we are transferring water now um we are adding chemical um I think he's going to finish up on Tuesday and um it should be it should be decent by the time they're done I mean I think he's going to make it right he had that PL with him on Friday but he never put it on so yeah apparently he had this skate out of here
but um it's been a process um so when you're treating that now do you wait till the whole Pond is moved over before you check the phosphorus or no I won't know until I do the discharge that's what I was wondering you wait until then and so yeah it'll be interesting the first couple because uh the first discharge if I get a number back that is super low like one or two parts per million I'll say well maybe I can decrease my chemical addition by you
know 5% 10% and then try it again the next time uh or if it if it didn't change much at all then the next discharge I'll have to increase a little bit I really want to know till I get those numbers back but I'm expecting good things um you don't you you don't take and try to test it halfway through your transfer to see where you're at no I don't have the ability to test it I don't have the reagent set for or the I've got the meter that could do it but uh it's better just a you have to take a sample to mvtl and have them tested yeah so
um but yeah that uh that project will be a WRA the gate is done uh Luke wired it um but The Apprentice uh had a incident with the Transformer inside there they're they're have to replace the Transformer inside that unit because he hooked something up wrong and fried fried something in there so they were apologetic and they're going to make it right they'll come back and get that fixed expect like next week so the the par today yeah the gate will be working and everything and that's
going to be that's going to be nice for when we get chemical deliveries and stuff so um what did they give you Brian do you get a remote for that or is a punch code both yeah there'll be a keypad and there'll be remote there's two remotes like garage door openers for vehicles so yeah that'll be nice it'll be nice cuz I forgot my keys when I went to Salt Bend today and I used the keypad to get in uh was going to put the fence back in I think race do a matter wait I
had some additional thoughts as this project has getting near completion um one thing that was a concern to mine that now I don't think is such a big deal anymore is the uh eyewash situation I asked the chemical delivery guy what do you do you know you're transferring chemicals all the time do you expect the people there to have it or whatever and uh some companies yeah they they you have to have an eyewash station there within so many feet of where you're transfering but he said typically little towns like ours don't and he carries a kit in a
cooler in his truck and he's got the squirt bottles that you get from Connie safety you rip the top off and you D your face so I said to Ray why don't we get a cooler and get some of those put them in it and if we're working on the pumps we go to the City Garage get that and bring it with us or uh if uh we're transferring chemical um the chemical guy's in charge of that I I could just stand back you don't have to be 10et away from the guy when he's doing it so I think that's not as big an issue as we
once thought it might be and the second thing I've been thinking about is the the building so the reason for the building was security the pumps are 4,900 bucks a piece yeah um right now it wouldn't be that hard to steal one but who knows what they are and the City Insurance would covered if they got SED but um just saying uh and the other thing was our worry was what if somebody's out there poking around and shoots an arrow or a a gun and shoots our tank or something dumb like that
because they're always shooting up signs and stuff out in the country our in our sign has been shot before it Still's got to have a building you know whether it's a building or or a fence you know maybe a guy could do a fence on it with bar way on angled things just a couple of options it's up to you guys what you want to do but I don't think it's a concern this fall yet to get that done you can probably wait till spring and probably won't make it anyway exactly it's it's too late fall now you got all winter to think about it but for now there is going to be a lock on the
cabinet the guy's going to come back and redo the they they put a a door on there but the screws are all on the outside so really you can just take a screwdriver unscrew and take the door off now so he's did you see it okay so he's gonna come back and put bolts in it and like I say it's it's been a real process out there they my patients was BN to a a embarrassing minimum on Friday to the point where I was ready to throw the guy in the bond um just saying there's been
some frustration with the project I talked about it with him uh I'll touch on it he knows exactly where I'm coming from and what it's all about well the first doors were just ridiculous they were they were opening up like this so you had to have your head hold the door up while you were programming or whatever you had to doing there it's like they keep coming back and they keep trying but every time it's a miss you know yeah it's in the end we'll have a good product it'll be I'll I'll
guarantee you it's going to be good by the time we're done but uh I think a big part of the problem came from when the Reuben construction uh and this was told to me by this guy uh Ruben construction uh went to get a bid for the pumps and like chemical equipment from vesco sales and vesco's top of the line I mean everybody they've got a great reputation big company this guy out there on Friday told me that they were three times the price and he could do it so much cheaper
and this is what you get a lot of frustration so uh the contractor decided to switch and go with this guy it's my understanding and this guy is not top-notch in quality he's fly by the seat of his pants and doesn't know what a level is for that's I don't need to say anymore yeah some of that workmanship was not not very very good so will the
treatment will there be enough time before the discharge to think to drop the phosphorus do you think or yeah yeah it's pretty much instantaneous when the phosphorus hits the water and the iron it coagulates and drops it out so it's better to have a little bit of time with like yesterday it was really windy so the whole Pond is just moving around and mixing so but our our where we're adding it the pumps are just stirring that water and we're dropping it right in right there so it's really thoroughly next okay great yeah Brian deserves a lot of credit for that he that was his thought child brain child that that been
vetting it with our environmental staff at Bolton and bank it's like the best case scenario for injecting chemical because you just get really good mixing happening right there so rather than being Al onon tune or know we talked about those solar V mixers or some of that this really just uniformly applies it so yeah I think be great you're still going to discharge this fall yet right yes I'm G to wait till after November 1st because then I don't have to test for um cfor bacteria so then usually that's the one that'll get you you know it's so
variable you could have geese on the pond and it'll give you a positive C form yeah and so after November 1st that doesn't apply because people aren't recreating in the water in the river so I'll wait until after November 1 all right did you have something to add yeah y my time you bet Jo okay I was just going to give a quick breakdown of the two projects going on in town as construction's kind of winding down and Winter's approaching so start with the
phosphorous removal improvements out at the ponds there says Brian has said there's there's been some challenges um with maybe some of the craftsmanship and the progress out there I think it's Brian also noted we're we're trending in the right direction right the the system is up and operational um we' just had to maybe do a little bit more um be a little more Hands-On and help people along the way then potentially anticipated um that we anticipated looking back know we we solicited three plls we awarded to
the low bidder and and this is a contractor that we've worked with on past projects successfully um doing wastewater treatment facility Improvement so you know I can't speak exactly why we had some hurdles but we're we're still trending in the right direction and like Brian said at the end of the day it's going to be a successful project had B man because helped me every step of the way whenever I had a complaint they were right on it so it's nothing to do with these guys so we're working together and we're going to get to where we want to go that's the main
thing there so you see a pay estimate was processed via docu sign with Sue there we're still that total we're still uh withholding about 10 grand on that on that project so there's still plenty of withholdings to ensure that um we have money that we need to get get the uh we want it to be in the end the any questions on the phosphorus treatment project would um you know Brian said we could maybe get by without a building but I
mean in reality he brings up a couple good points it could be shot at it you know I my thought we still should have a building around that down there you know because what the pumps almost five grand a piece yeah 4900 bucks plus tax I mean somebody could go in there and just literally wreck stuff if they wanted to absolutely they could I I'll say we had this conversation many times now with
our environmental staff there is a the minimum requirement is a rain shield over the tank um so you know that could be as simple as a four 4x4s with a lean to for something to protect it from snow you could put some I don't know one by sixes kind of like a fence fence I noted there so that is sort of a minimum requirement just to keep snow and rain and in terms of the building uh bonck has been somewhat hands off on that in terms of you're welcome to construct it's not 100%
required um that's the input I'll provide there the best thing about it is we got to treat the discharge yeah and now we got till next spring to you got some time get the building going yes or next summer whatever the left hand fa pump the top fitting is so Tuesday you'll see it it's got a couple little drips or not a lot we ran that one for maybe 15 20 minutes and and turned it off when you're looking at the cabinet yeah left hand pump top fitting sounds good so have you noticed
the level on the tank gone down already yeah down I think it's going to take about 300 300 gallons to do the entire transfer and how many gallons you think in the lagoon I think the oh that's a that's a thing oh Theon yeah how many gallons have I tripped s over what will you transfer from one to the other 6 million gallons 5.7 5.8 okay
but um the tank has a level transmitter on it and it's as good as the original one that those guys had suggested was just kind of a float thing so you can see the float go up and down and you could see what was in the tank and that was getting hard to obtain I guess the guy couldn't get one quick enough and uh so they offered electric electronic uh Wireless uh flow sensor or level sensor but
that's what it is is a level sensor so which is fine it's uh right yesterday today I was reading 0.82% full 082 so a little more than three4 full so you kind of have to calculate in your mind if it's a thousand gallon tank you can back calculate so when I order chemical but my impression was that it was going to read out in gallons and that's not possible with the one that he put on there I read the the book so fine it's good it's as good as what you guys expect in the first place so the nice
thing about a th gallon tank right is it always add a 0 82% 820 gallon 39% it's it's fine and what's in there will not freeze this winter no no really um there was a recommendation from the manufacturer right Brian to that inside holes out of the out of the pump probably have to drain them pumps and that oh yeah no he was talking about the so the pump is a peristaltic pump it's got four wheels that go around a circle
and and it pushes squeezes the water through like a straw you know it spins and the paracytic pump if let's say you did a discharge in September and you weren't going to use it again until April the following year um those wheels will sit there on that same spot for six months and can cause a dent in there so he suggested if it's not too difficult to pop that out over the winter then pop it back in in the spring so take a look at that just to help make it last longer
yeah um but yeah it's like rubber little paddles in there isn't it no it's it's like Wheels oh is it rollers that just go around and around and the the the tubing is squished as as the roller comes through it just it's really those are Cadillac pumps I'm so thumbs up right yeah those are yeah I'm I'm I'm amazed at how good quality they are so LMI is a good brand and the and the model that they got is a it'll last a
lifetime perfect yeah okay I'll hop into the holiday Street backyard sanitary sewer project um construction is complete the pipes in the ground the gring's been done the top s is down you driven by there grass isn't growing yet that's always a challenge on these construction projects getting grass to grow it's it's just um um a challenge in every city across you know that that I work in or that we work in as a company so um so basically where we're at with
that one is we paid the contractor for their work completed today and we've the money that we'll hang on to until grass is 70% established I did tell race today though that one manhole that's in that RightWay like what goes off the street it's exposed you know so much and then farther on the other side um that he should build the dirt up around it you know or put a pole a pole there because over the years the city has pushed snow
back in there and you wouldn't want to hit that in the middle of January okay so but I mean really there's dirt down there where we could build it up ourself you know and I did have them thanks for bringing that up Mr Mayor I did have them leave those sanitary manels up just a little bit because I really didn't want water getting in the castings there but maybe it's a little excessively High I think on the east side of it it's probably about six inches I think okay and you know well I think for this fall for sure mark it with a post and then
look spring in some dir because I know over the years there's been snow pushed in there I pushed snow in there one year so okay okay that's that's all I have on those two projects when you uh when you ran that service to them houses were we ever able to go up there with Jetter cleaner at somebody and televis if them houses all had uh uh perimeter I don't think I'd have to quiz ly fite the onsite inspector on that how much investigation they did I don't think
they were able to get all the way up to the homes because they were so such long runs to the West there but let me talk to Lyall and see what his thoughts were on that how about the the flow now you know there was always clear water coming from that North is have you looked in there is there I was wondering if rain for you race yeah if there's still water coming in there clear like that or not that'd be a good thing when I if I were in your shoes race and and you had nothing else going on in the world and
it started raining it'd be nice to look kind of right when it starts raining and then again after 15 minutes after 30 minutes after an hour I kind of have a feel for how quickly it starts getting more water in that fight and going to take a lot of water now again yeah now yeah yeah but I think the important thing is we we keep trying if the city's able to successfully do that 200 foot extension to the South and separate those Services I think that could be a big land for for the I Andi reduction too so you know city's trying and and working in the right direction hopefully
we start to see results you know I'm of the opinion it's a bit of a a death by a Thousand Leagues where if you keep chipping away at it you should keep seeing improvements yep all right well thanks Joe do we ever get the um structure out by the pond that was leaking so badly did that get done yep that got done good um like two two three weeks ago they kind of dig around the out side of it yeah they injected I can't remember what they what
it was called but they injected it in there and good that's all scaled up if it gets high enough it'll still come out the lid but it won't come out that hole in the yeah they plug that little remember there little hole up top they plug that too so all right sounds good thanks um since we're on sewer and I was looking at the check register like the chambers one that all comes out of the sewer fund
right then there's a loop electric down here but I don't have any figures we we put it all towards the sewer fund right it'll come out of that fund right because that's what he wired down there obviously and then equipment um M Main home yeah install Pump and Supply that's
I was just wondering you know make sure two knows that this all comes out of sewer fund you know and then on your sewer fund uh you got money left be a little hard on some left yet I don't have those reports you guys all have those but well NE again right we shouldn't be though because we put both of those yeah CDs in
there we should be all right but so we should be all right and then this Ward Brothers Construction they fixed dug up and replaced a water shut off on holiday that comes out of the water that's the water that should be a 601 if you look at the code okay yeah the 601 is water 602 is sewer okay all right now I know there you go I was going to ask you tomorrow ring in the morning so make sure looking
that was the only ones I had just make sure we're getting that all right spot usually if I have a question I'll ask R what they congratulations on your daughter that in there yeah thank you sleepless nights I know it's going home stay away thank you all yeah okay down to unfinish business resolution 24-16 increase utility
R any questions on that at all then or is that all good to go I just looked at this the resolution since say resolution increasing utility rates and not adjusting so I will
correct that I found the 17 one but I can't find the 16 one right next to the 17 I know I fig that but I'm M toward all part there we go thank you um so we're gonna start this January one January one that's on
17 right 16 16 16 20246 is increasing the rates effective January 1st okay yeah but this other one 17 is changing the monthly billing okay Bill February 1 okay all right anybody got any questions if not somebody make a motion to pass resolution 20246 and 17 on the same one just do 16
16 I'll make the motion someone a second second all in favor I I oppose motion carried okay now resolution 24 or 20247 let me make a motion to approve that one is that okay if we started February 1st I know we really never really we we talked about it very briefly we never actually sat down and decided so I'm just throwing it out there well you're the one that's got to get it all programmed right well right and rce and I had talked about you know
maybe doing it in increments you know doing down to two months that's just a lot of extra changing in Bion right um so I just picked February 1 I thought well then you know I don't know we're gonna have to give them extra amount of time to pay their bill you know and right now we're not real good I'm not real good at sending out and charging penalties because I don't know how banion works sometimes that person will get a penalty sometimes that person doesn't so I'm not sure what's not Jing in the system and
I've worked with Heidi on that but she also told me that once we go to monthly billing a lot of this will change because we won't have budget billing anymore there will be no budget billing right because you're getting a bill every month the expectation is to pay that bill by the due date yeah from what I've um when I've reached out to other cities a lot of them that are doing it that way they bill out on the 1 they're due on the 20th or the 15th they give them like an extra five days and then they charge that penalty now we're not going to do with that I mean at first it would be nice to
get to that eventually but so the city will do we have the uh ability to pull it out of checking accounts automatically if people want to set it up people can set it up through PSN and that then they can I know we do have some that are autoaid that then that's all through that billing software or through the PSN I don't know if I really I would like to eventually I'd like to be able to have some time to check into a different one because for me if I use my
debit card it charges me a125 now it can use somebody else's debit card and it'll charge him seven bucks I don't know what the difference is there and I don't know why yeah I notice that too card companies but it's well maybe it's because it's a Visa or Master Card or something but I've had people say I'm using my debit card why is it charging me this much but we don't have the ability just to go directly to somebody's checking account they have to go through a billing software they have to go through a payment processing service yeah and so there you know you
have another fee and that's where their fees are which is fine if it's like I said a doll10 I think or a dollar quarter whatever but when it charges up you know and also I think it depends on how much money they owe to but so what would happen if uh just say for instance somebody wants to write a check out for 500 bucks the city holds that NOP City's not holding checks or I mean has it on will deposit $500 into their account and they're going to have a credit yeah until that credit gets eaten that's that's why I wonder yes yep
we can definitely do that okay because myself I don't want to write a check every month you know you know you could also just go online and pay it with your credit card or your debit card Stu a year in advance or or just you know write a check for five grand and we can just put it in there and call it a day there we go hopefully that works for you all right we'll do that then and we also I'm out of the postcards so unless council's
going to really wants to do the postcards I'd rather just go to the regular sheet of paper I did the math and it's really not a big difference but I a lot of people get they get lost and I don't know if it's always been an issue but there's sometimes where I'll have sheet or the postcard with the postcard and I know there's I've had some that they pay religiously all the time and then I'm calling them going or they get a p du notice and they didn't get that either and it's like I know they're paying their bills so yeah my last I got this this most recent one
pretty quick but the one I got before was I didn't get that to like five days before it was due obviously I mean I knew would to pay it already but the water bill yeah the postcard didn't show up until like yeah five days before yeah some of them show up right away I'm fine with Pap so and I don't think we need to make a motion because I don't think that was ever into any motion or ordinance that you guys are doing it through the postcards I still have past two postcards so I'll send those out that way just because I have almost two boxes of
them oh I agree I think they should be an envelope and then it's bigger yep yeah yeah I mean it's more professional yeah it looks better yeah yeah and we're not like I said I did the math we're not saving yeah we're saving a couple hundred bucks 200 bucks not not that big a deal yeah so I will say one thing about the post card was laying on my table and my grandson from Mapleton was over and he picked it up and he looks at
it wow that's about one month for me my quarter my quarter was about one month for me in Maple in Mapleton a family of four yeah well so I mean you know with the water treatment plant you know and trying to get money from state do we have to progressively yeah go up maybe next spring the first quarter and
this this here that we just did will help with that much maybe maybe at the end of next year end of next year okay that's I was wondering if we had it again okay if it had to be the half or three qus okay it really all depends on how that all works out up there you know we just kind of took a a grab here out of the sky and well it's going to cost us this much a year you amateurz that out over five years you
know we just came out and did that is our contingency fees higher or lower than Mapleton oh I don't know I don't know I don't know how they're put together it was they pay monthly they pay monthly I think they pay quarterly oh really think I think I'm not sure about that um do we have any pass doing yet or is that I've got everybody paid up because we sent out disconnects and race had to disconnect
one and that and then that one was paid and now we are completely cut up wow I wonder if people will will be able to keep up better now monthly well and the whole idea is that hope yeah they'll be able to keep up better and then we won't have these $1,500 we don't have water bills yeah we 810,000 sitting in the office that we can't collect right yeah y hopefully that will help that a lot yeah in 30 years yeah that they're all
paid up they're all paid up really to make a resolution for you need to I'll make a motion to approve resolution 202 24-17 to second second it all in favor say I I iOS motion Carri okay ordinance updates so in your packet I gave you the information I got
from Chris regarding the orces that thought because last time we met you asked me to get together some stuff and S to review for the ordinances and so I contacted him and he put together that memorandum about the updates and which ones Council wants to update how they should be how he suggested they be updated so I don't know if that's something you want to just take under
advisement and just have a meeting to just discuss that or how you want to go about that I think it would be better to have a separate meeting to have a discussion sometime maybe before the end of the year or the beginning of the year I don't know if it's that impress impressing that we do it right away but because some of the stuff I read through
and I'm still confused on what he's saying for a few of them so would it be beneficial to have him no okay not in my opinion okay I just don't know if there's other I mean if there's questions you you know far as like the language or something or I mean it's here in writing we don't I don't want to ask any he'll change what he's got here say something different
y I mean it talks about Planning Commission we really don't even have one we are the Planning Commission well we but still in our ordinance but I mean we don't we've never had people at want to be on it yeah well we did for a while well there was years years and years and years ago yeah haven't been for so long that right you know it would be nice if you could get people that would want to Y uh do
that CU then it don't all fall on us because they could they could have some of this all hashed out before it ever got to but at the same time that just one more step that people got to go through and they want to get something done and it's kind of a pain too so yeah it's kind of good well I think John's got a good idea to have a separate meeting on this sometime whether there has to be before
the end of this year orning before the end of the year probably huh I would think so maybe yeah it's yeah see next next Monday ah sometime in
November would we ever come in early at a regular November meeting and discuss it or just get too long or I won't be here early because I'm coming home from Florida that day on the 12th 11th okay because our meeting is on the 12th next month because that's Veterans Day oh we can't have a meeting so we'll have we'll meet November 12th which is a Tuesday well that changes everything tonight I had that conversation last year and because we trade this isn't we
traded Thanksgiving the day after Thanksgiving for this day so we can meet so um well we can do that then would an hour be enough you think probably I would hope not but sure think so I mean an hour be so meet at 6 on the 12 I mean that way everybody's going to be
here anyway right You' have done that night so you don't have to collect and come another night yeah well now to the end of year it's going to fly by anyway so that's right y all right what time 6 6 p.m.
a motion you ready to do that no second um motion been made and seconded all in favor say I oppos motion carried okay any anything else under unfinished the Personnel policy um your packets there were just the pages that had the updates that um
Cog was working on for us because you approved the first one with those changes so these are the changes from the other one looking at that that same night right or well you can also look at that at the Personnel yeah personel meeting next week yeah it's the
uh yeah 3:30 3:30 well I'm fine with the changes because this will then update our Personnel policy for as With The Changes right yes I'm fine with them
um because basically all we did is changed the training period you change the PTO and the PTO for for a new employee and no um payout of P of of P during the probationary period if they leave I mean that's the basic changes
right so so if everybody has read these and are okay with them we could prove it tonight yes that yeah that's what I'm saying I'm okay with it too
yeah I guess I'm fine with it somebody want to make a motion then to approve it make a motion to approve the changes for the Personnel policy I'll second then all in favor say I I motion Carri your business um I guess maybe as long as we're kind of in this area as a result of our mediation
meeting uh Julie our attorney there is a little bit concerned about us all meeting in a closed Personnel committee meeting as that can be viewed as having a closed meeting and it's not recorded that's not supposed to be it's not doesn't have to be recorded so somebody could accuse you of dealing other business and no one would know right so it's strictly got to be it should
be that but I mean even even with that though I mean what I I think what her worry is is that it could be viewed as a closed meeting where no one where business is discussed other than personnel and and you know somebody could call us on that or something you know what's your remedy to go back to three people two or three people that's yeah she said that and why are you meeting well I we explained why this
came about and what we had to do and uh this is why it's okay but she was a little worried not worried but concerned that that uh we not meet as a whole Council like that in a closed meeting now every Personnel committee meeting is open to the public then it isn't a problem but you can't have an open Personnel
meeting if you're having to deal with perform Personnel um performance perance yeah performance yeah y but by law you can't record that so you can prove that you were only on that subject I I think so I think that I think that's what it comes down you can't or you could I I think you cannot cannot okay because that would be permanent Refuge
say it could be recorded if obviously if we're okay with it yeah I mean if it's it could a person El commun meeting it can be open but it isn't guaranteed that it's open so I think that's where she's coming from is that it's truly up to them 4D whether it's open or closed and and and uh no one else but that could get you in trouble you know even if it's even if
the employee closes it you know who's to say that something else couldn't be discussed and that gets out and then you know right John yes that's I I think it's a good idea to go back to two people I do too I do too because then it can't be either it's got to be two right correct I think two would be better for that because of three could make a decision Y and two can correct that's correct so then that Personnel committee would have to report back to the council again like
think it used to be y okay so how does that work um just say two people on there they discussed with two employees but they wanted to talk to the full counil about some issues then would you close a regular council meeting to discuss those issues that the personel people are bringing to the rest of the council you know say there was an issue with employee and the two Council persons on
the committee know it but they want to share it with the rest of the council would that have to have be a closed meeting then to share that part of it no I think then you would put that in writing and distribute it out okay you know all right it wouldn't be in the packet no you know and I think that's how it is I mean I think we've
got it' be a confidentiality yeah it can't be in the packet no right right and say I think I'll put this the best way I can she made it pretty clear to us that we've gotten some poor information some poor advice in the past yeah yeah i' say that's that accurate statement and from a lot of people not just one would we ever try to improve
that again we tried we tried once I know that and we weren't successful but she said nothing I think now we know more than did because when work with ashney on that RFP that was right at the beginning I didn't know a lot yeah then either but I think uh advertising was the main thing I think who put it out in the paper and asked the league to put it out but I don't think the league ever put it out on the site so um there's
other ways to you know find find some good ones and directly mail them to you know yeah can you do that directly mail sure yeah okay long as it's Council decision from City yeah yeah yeah yeah she has reiterated that me a couple times too that some of the stuff wasn't quite up to par yeah yeah we've been led
by not only not only legal advice but you know had people sitting out there that were supposed experts at Personnel that would let us the wrong way too so you know what I mean yeah so so or up here too Who was the Personnel committee before we made it all was it you and I no I don't think I was on the Personnel committee that's when we ched them at
the first of the year well yes see Sarah and I were on there originally you and that's when it always was yeah that's where it just went flat right and that's when I said well we need more input from the rest of us yeah and so anyway if it was you and Sarah so it would be who you and whoever I guess Sarah's not on anymore so would be just the
point somebody but it should be somebody that's going to be around you know a term be this here's gonna be John's gonna be around I'm you're gonna be in Florida I am some of it yeah so I mean should we be changing this before next week then I I
I think so don't you I think my opinion that's what she wanted when I was gathering she was she didn't say that but she just made it pretty clear that's you know yeah I think little concerned yeah it should be I think the two and so do what do we have to do did did we have to do a resolution or anything to change it before to five people do we have to do anything to make it back to two people committees again you know because every year beginning of
the year is when we all because it was changed the whole committee before Sue way before Sue right was it before before Scott and I were on too uh yeah yeah that was a long time ago it was I would assume it was just a motion to have the whole because that's how your committees are set up yeah like they're all by motion your committees are so you could assuming you could just set your committee by motion to the committee I think probably in our ordinances it's still a two-person committee I probably
I believe so so we probably are going to be okay you know yeah I believe so so Robert and John you good for that John I I'm okay with that yeah so then again somebody want to make a motion then to go back to a twers Personnel committee and who's the other one me
and this will only be till the end of the year then right we pick again next year yeah y good thing you brought that up Tom so that can take your business ahead of yeah the cart once in a while uh somebody want to make motion to that effect then John and I will be on the Personnel committing so only John and I will be meeting next Monday night right someone a second second all in
favor say I I oppostion carries new business um how are we coming with the former Dakota Mar as far as legal um I'm out I haven't gotten a report from Chris lately I couple months you guys asked me it hasn't as far as I know it hasn't
moved from there um they were waiting they hadn't filed bankruptcy on it yet I think that's what he was kind of tenly thinking they were going to do with the Dakota Mart oh really is there taxes against it now also I just learned that today yeah there taxes there's a water bill or we do have one outstanding water bill is the water shut off down there yeah that was done last summer
wasn't huh wasn't the winner because Excel came and turned off the power oh yeah okay that's right I remember talking about that so they're going to let you know there's quite a few owners involved there region N I believe right yeah and uh southern Minnesota initiative they don't own it though well they I think they have they had their name on it before the city of good
thunder right well they on the lean they had leans on it yeah right right so but if it goes back to the bank I don't know how you can collect on it I don't think anybody gets paid because if they if they file bankruptcy I'm assuming it it's I I don't think there's any money there so no and then it just goes back to I'm I'm assuming the county yeah but it takes years right I don't think it's going to go anywhere anytime soon it's just going to there
unfortunately yeah it will y could be well the county gets it and in the state and something yeah and you revert it back to the city I mean I don't think it'll go back to the city does it I don't think it does no eventually it could that's quite a way down the road yeah I don't think that's the best thing would happen if an individual which is already happened mle times to buy it but they refused to sell
it before so trouble is the tanks yep it's the tanks that's going to be the obstacle y for anyone yep but then if it goes back to the bank doesn't the will the bank have to take care of that then dig those things up yeah and then then if if then then sale will be increased because that right exactly you know what is that going to be you know 30 grand take those tanks off I don't
know how much that depends on 30,000 I don't really yeah I have no idea ground as long as they're still sealed and not leaking it's not a big deal but if there's but if it is H dirty ground then the super fund kicks in if the ground is dirty then the super fun kicks in and helps clean up you know but again yeah somebody's going to have to uh what do they got to do dig 10 feet from contaminated ground well they just keep taking it out until it cleans itself up
you know the worst of it is the cement will be gone and then it'll be growing up in Weeds yeah you know it's it's a bad thing all the way around it's going to be a long time before it gets that the roof will probably fall in before it's all well that's another thing I mean by not being taken care of and heated you know what is going to happen here yeah it it's going to be a source spot for a while unfortunately or potentially a
source um I mean if there was anything for Chris to work on it would be that alongside of collecting the money I mean place is starting to be a blight well you know I can't imagine what kind of uh what What's what Aroma is inside because there's stuff in there hopefully they got rid of all the food and perishables but you hope I hope yeah but I mean but
even coolers that haven't been cleaned out properly the mold is well this thick yeah they'll have a clean out crew come up and you know clean it out and then they'll on the doors so you know they can't go back up there because I don't know if they still have access access to it until um proceedings are you know I'm assuming until the until the bank actually for closes on it or seizes it they can still go in and out of there as I would think so too yeah they still
because they still own it technically they still own it um I did see in the paper last week that there were um call the back taxes they were so far back was in the public notice section there was a couple of them in good Thunder that they had until the end of October I thought yeah but a lot of people operate that way they'll let them keep a gr there and then they'll pay off so much to satisfy some of the debt and then they go again another 5 years yeah so I mean that's how some people operate see what happens with that
yeah how many years has their tax not been paid down there wonder I have no idea just look it up on Beacon sometimes say yeah you can look it up and find out building was paid for seems like we did look it up early this year and they were current so it's probably just current the B the building may have been paid for but this they have leans against it because I'm assuming that's what it is is they have lean because with all the
other but you made the comment a bank is going to get it well whoever they ow is well yeah however that whoever holds a mortgage yeah it's a bank or an individual he says it that he thinks it's been paid for I think that building was paid for well it's in car's name right yeah yeah well it's it's hers and uh isn't it hers and Lind well he no he just Co signed on the the loan um I believe it's all in her all in her name so then yeah it could sit there
telling went into tax forfeiture which is six or seven years or whatever that's true just listed as Dakota Mart LLC so whoever owns the LLC for Dakota Mark some car nothing we can do about that right now anyway so I mean that building is you know if you went down and somebody offered him 30
grand there's still who is going to be responsible for the taking the tanks out I mean the the owner should be right but that's never going to happen I mean is the bank going to take and do that and then try to recoup those costs I think that's what you were saying Tom right yeah they might have to yeah I know but like Scott was saying there's no Bank involved really yeah because it's well we're
involved we have money into that place the city of good Thunder yeah supposedly wash their hands of it you think so from both the city of good Thunder and I think they wrote it off last year and then when we proceeded they said they should get some of the cut do the work and they get the
cut that was for whatever that loan was that they got right yeah 40 45 Grand yeah C he was good for part but the city paid Blue Earth County my understanding was what Blue Earth County had into it right right so they can't well I don't know if they would if they don't if their portion has been paid back they wouldn't have a stake in it going forward then they weren't paid back they
just wanted off their books suppos yeah because we gave them the money City County a check for like 23,000 or some that was their their half yeah so why do they think that they should get money I don't know who says they did well that there was a letter from yeah after the first of the year nothing to worry about tonight it's not on the
agenda wow it's going to be a mess it's going to be a mess yeah before be well it wouldn't be so bad but the tanks are going to be the biggest problem there the city's already in invested in that money does the city ever take it upon themselves to try to get them tanks out to make that a piece of sellable
property in the city of good Thunder the only way that we could come out on it that's right it might be the only way yeah we've always said we don't want to have property I mean she should be they should be advertising that place as is because some business some Town business person might benefit from that you know if it's only 30 grand to take off the tanks maybe it's worth 30 grand not paying 30 grand plus 30 grand but hey let me just take this over for you so you're out of this mess yeah that she
should be advertising that to get herself out of out of whatever is going to happen but because I mean I don't know Thunder restaurant might want it or some other Marine might want it or Scott might want Scott might want it whatever I mean if she if she advertised something somebody might be interested in I mean somewhere along the line somebody's going to have to pay for getting that taken out yep and uh that's just the way it's going to be and I guess if I had a
guess right now I guess this entity here is going to probably be the one I don't I think that's going to be a long long road we got a long road to Hall before we even find that out that's my opinion it's because southern Minnesota initiative funds right they mhm they had some in it and region nine right yeah yeah because there was them sets of two people here
that and uh I guess to if you can find out who is involved and call those people and tell them what we're up against you know maybe we should wait though until we find out what result of this suit is we're suing them soon we should wait until we find out what's happening but he's not progressing very well he was doing we
did the discovery and they didn't do it they didn't complete it but another one of their creditors also submitted a discovery so there was a bench warrant because they neither one of them had completed it and turned it back in and that was in July I think and then I think they actually did complete the discovery and that's as far as I've heard since so I will reach out again to see if um Chris has any more updates and to see if he'll um and then
find out who who all has a stake in that yep you don't you don't want to be put in the cart for the horse here let's let's see what see where we're at with that yeah and I mean if we're g if if the city's going to end up buying it anyway there's no no use suing them and all that kind of stuff then might as well just deal with them yeah I don't think we want to buy it so I don't think so either but the thing
of it is I think it would just remain at the status it's in Forever that's the worst of it you know y nobody's going to come in and you know like Amy said the best thing is somebody go she goes hey you can have the building for removing the tanks because like you say you nobody's going to pay $25 grand for the building paid 35 Grand to take the tanks out if you one for the other I don't know if that can happen or
not but depending upon what they have against it in leans too the lean holders may not let that happen I know you know I mean it's a it's a bad thing all the and you said that night you said that I voted for too so y well we can just keep moving on and see what we can find find out one other thing on our new business and I don't know why I was thinking about this did we and I know we were
talking about it when the Auditors here did we ever accept that $4200 ID yes we did we did last okay we did finally I just wanted to and remember that's all I got for new business anybody else want to do the liquor yeah that's under miscellania yep oh I'm sorry um renew the liquor and tobacco license for red Iron and thunder bar you have everything you everything
is with the state I've gotten everything back from them I've got the fees paid and I've melted off to the state for the liquor licenses and once I get those back I'll do the tobacco licenses and get them all to them right so that's kind of on hold right now well it's like I said once we get it back from and why should be getting it back here within the next week or two I just didn't want to know if we wanted to wait until no meeting they've already everything's been the background checks and everything's been passed I mean businesses it would be
best if we passed approval right then then as soon as I get them back I can get them out to them said everything com back right that's you done that's what we did last year give them approval assuming everything is going to come back you know contingent upon everything okay you make that motion I something in a second second second all in favor say I I I probably abstain from
this y all righty uh Excel franchise ordinance renewal so that isn't something that has to be done now it the renewal or the um 25e agreement is due in March of 2025 so what she sent me was a copy of the old one and then a copy of the new one they're basically the same um she did come out here and meet and she said I had asked her about contingency fees because we get those from Consolidated but if we're not
having phone lines or in and um like Direct TV anymore are we going to get those contingency fees Fran or the franchisees sorry don't know I know Amboy was wondering that too get it on the internet service yeah because you if you call if you try to get whole I pay your bill online to consolidate now you can't it's gone you have to go to fidum you have well is that if you already
switched over to fidum or if you still have the Consolidated you switched over yeah yeah correct so but fidan really is a holy owned company of consolida the same thing I mean eventually you'll be able to just go on the fidum site but that's not up and running yet so so do we I don't know the city wants to think about doing a franchise fee for Excel she did give me a list of some of the cities that do it um I think Eagle Lake I think there was like two or three
around here was it m some of the smaller ones are like a dollar um franchise fee per month per resident you don't have to we haven't City hasn't done it in 25 years or 20 years whatever it is so what do they do Just Jack the bill up a dollar so they just charge just like if you looked on your Consolidated Bill you'd have a franchise fee of whatever and that gets paid directly to the city every quarter the city gets that
to help pay for whatever really we're not we the city wouldn't benefit from a franchise fee would you because they're providing the service and any thing that bothers that they're paying for it or repairing it right right it's just a way for it's just a it's kind of a way for the city to make a little extra money to put towards the Water Tower or roads infrastructure whatever so it' be a
dollar per household or whatever that's what the city wanted I'm just that was just an example some of them are a buck 50 I think one of them was actually 50 cents yeah that's what you had on here and that's monthly yeah oh yeah yeah so oh we got time to but you don't have to do now I just wanted to put it out there so that you guys had it the back of your mind at least for tonight anyway all right and we'll revisit it later and Sue called down to
drummers and they are going to start and they are going to start this their plan is to start this winter to start doing they've got their plans they've got everything ready to go they've got to go ahead to go in all of it yep and I don't know if they got their funding he never brought it up I didn't ask I just wanted to know where he was with the project so he just gave me his update and I know there's been a few people that are wondering what was happening so I'm glad Sue called down there and so we know so you know it's it's
happening good update y uh truth and Taxation meeting will be in the December meeting right that's what yeah I got an email to ask when we were having it so that's why it's on there usually it's on it's the first part of the um December meeting which is yeah beginning of meeting yeah December 9th yeah so if you want to do that we can set that up and I can get know we need a
motion on that yes somebody make a motion to add the truth and Taxation meeting December 9th I make Motion in a second motion carried um election there a deadline or you gotta have a meeting for us the elections that is that will come
in November somewhere between November 13th to the 15th so we can decide that at the next meeting whatever because that's what I got an email today about that first and that it should be what is that called canvas canvas meeting canvas yeah somewhere between the 13th 14th and 15th of we're going to need to have that we always do that at the regular council meeting too right just before well how's
that come that's if we get it but he said not to expect until the 12th well actually yeah the meeting would be the 12th of November so we could and if we don't have it then you'll have to have another meeting you'll have to have a special meeting yeah that Thursday oray Wednesday whatever I'm sorry what was that about canvas canvasing to approve approve the election results oh okay just a formality yeah y okay um
mcfa that the next one in 2024 is that's when it's scheduled um don't know if you guys want me to go to it again yes what does that stand for the municipal municipal clerk and finance officers associate oh okay y yes I want you to go 2025 yes somebody want to make a motion then to have to attend that from March 18th to the 21st some the second favor say I iOS car we have a
thing in here for clerk uh mileage um don't have the figure right now here you'll have to sign this one anyway somebody make a motion to approve mileage for the clerk I'll make a motion somebody the second second all in favor say I um Halloween daycare so I haven't been approached JEA last year you guys um we
did little treat bags for the Halloween for the daycare kids I have most of it already the only thing I don't have is candy so I don't know if wants to do that again just pick up a bag of candy and I'll just put little bags together again y if they approach I'm assuming they will I'm sure they will so would just be the bag of candy because I have everything else left do you have candy for other trickery treaters or I didn't get any other ones in last year I mean I'll definitely well they come in a bag so I would have whatever's left and then race comes in trick-
or-treating every day so to and I don't do it every day he a frequ fre trick-or-treater better more people would come I had the good stuff I buy what I want that's probably what I shouldn't dos no so do we need motion to to go down and buy a bag of candy for Halloween some me make that motion Mo in second second I in favor
say I motion carried all right anything else from anybody else um the only other thing I had was there was something in your packets about the information from representative Olsen because I had emailed him after that and asked him for a few clarifications so it doesn't sound like we actually have to give him a minimum of what we're willing it sounded like once he got to that point he would say we only can get you 5 million are you okay with that or that type of thing
so that that's that's kind of my understanding when I got it and the other question I just came up with this I just spoted that Minnesota Ral water has a program November 13th I think it is it's in stcloud and it's all about how to apply for funding and how to do the applications and I'm kind of interested in going to it it's a free it's free um but that way if we do have to get some more money for funding at least then I'll have a little hopefully I'll have some insight and some contacts
if council's okay with going with me going to that I don't see anything wrong with that I a bad idea for somebody from the council to go with it as well the one day deal or yeah it's just one day when is it oh God I think it was November 13th 13th or 14th mon from now then yeah I think it was the 14th if you need somebody to go I can probably work that in my busy I've got the flyer too so stop in
I'll let you read the flyer tell me want make a motion you allow Su and maybe one Council first to go to St Cloud you said yep where was it again St Cloud one of the hotels in St Cloud I know yes should just go grab it it's right over there oh that's fine right downtown yeah so where the um conference was last year this year the conference is
in gosh where is it since St Paul were that oh shoot I graduated college from Brown Heritage Center or something Earl Brown Brown Heritage Center so it's closer it's like an hour and 20 minutes versus two and a half hour oh somebody want to make a motion have two and maybe some other individual
10ve someone second second all in favor say I anything else then um as far as starting to drill a new well we can't do anything there either now then until we hear from the state or born olon right right because you know yeah I read
that letter you know and yeah we have another well but there's not much capability to get much water out of it you know great and I mean will we know this by next spring yes don't they bonding Bill come through in the spring isn't it well they meet back up in isn't it January they start going up again was it December I think it's January and but I think all that business is left because uh by then the contractors all start writing in on bidding on process
there in what February March April yeah yeah so okay we would know within a few months now I would think yeah and with that said uh if we had to trim that what will we ever trim you know say we got half of that what would the most value for our dollar well where did I read uh I think it was
broke down wasn't it just read that somewhere the name letter that they suggested yes that's that's the the rest the holiday the loing and all that that would go then if they don't say you know they only want to give us
six million that's 7 million then we'd have to be looking at funding yeah either but again then sue and whoever goes up there and that would be where that would meeting would come in handy yeah we would know how to tackle that y probably with a sist tack well right but yeah because right now if you told me to do that I wouldn't have a clue I well it sounds good anybody else with
anything then if not let me make a motion to the Jour what do we to do with that is that ever still you still talking about that that was next year's project is to open that all up yeah that's what you guys talked about because a a budget report kind of was it yeah yep y okay yeah and I mean really to me it's should be something
done with it right yeah I mean it's just it's a waste of taxpayer money yep all it is it might as well be utilizing the room and have the room for more people and maybe have more gatherings in here you know I have had people comment and ask how big this place is and it's not big enough for some of the needs that I've yeah so yeah it would be nice I wonder if drummer will open that up down there as a community center area in that gym area where people could wasn't that part of
the deal well that's yeah but has that all changed is that still still the part of it he still wants last I heard him say was he still wants to do a community private partnership sort of a thing there but he wants a city to maintain not maintain schedule or something yeah I I'm I'm gathering that they wants more than just say yeah you
know you can have people you know I I'll I'll have a spot you know the rent will be this much know and then City Maintenance afterwards or something yeah yeah and and I I think I think there's maybe a little changing going on there from what he was saying here that night but then again let's just let that develop and see what happens that's a material to this project right this just needs to be utilized you know yeah and I
don't want that to be confounded there this this is just a underutilization of space that overhead door needs to come out be filled in like this and that wall just needs to go to the South and build a another wall right through there and use that same door to enter that uh area right yeah or wall I mean so we have a little storage yet yeah unless we don't need that storage area I there's nothing wrong with having storage we need it if you go if you gone in there and looked
at that lately yeah you're going to need it or there's going to be a lot of purging going on about I mean we've dealt with that issue before too and there they are yep no idea has there been much use for the books I do have one um there's been two two older ladies that come in and get books for their grandchildren and then they kind of bring them back and kind of come and go and I don't know I
don't far as I know there's not a checkout system that I was ever aware of so they just kind of I never had any mean that bookcase could just go to the Salt wall there's a wall there's a bookcase over there with books too books full book boxes full of books and there's books piled on tables and there's yeah that's all from I think the school a lot of it you can tell which ones are from from the school because they're the ones that are so brand new because nobody ever read them I mean I I I still think that we ought to take and fill that dumpster out here half full of
books every week until you get them down wasn't there something on Facebook about when we mentioned this before how terrible that was that there was an outlet wasn't there one of them people talking about I can get rid of them books and I yeah you remember who that was no I do not wasn't Tim Stromer one of them no he was talking about uh book fair and farble where they just ended up throwing a bunch of them into the that's he somebody was talking about them for a
school um taking them for a school or something or for some Community Center I don't even know can you put it on the kids Halloween bag can you put it on the good Thunder City website that you know do we want to go down that road again oh yeah I mean we go down that road again I can tell you what's going to happen just going to get the same people that aren't going to do anything scream with the food shelf feelings but there might be somebody out
there might have an outlet I I doubt it because even schools know everything's so much iPad the sad part is is and which is what I think is really sad is people aren't just aren't reading books anymore they're doing it online and I mean I'm still somebody who reads books I've got 5,000 books right there see and I can't do it right in this machine that's it I don't need all that so maybe like Tom said over the course of the winter some of them might have to
go into the recycling and just start with the other room and just get rid of them otherwise we're going to end up paying to get rid of them yep you're going to throw them in the truck and you're going to have to all them down to the landfill and get rid of them that way Anna stel she one of them that had a place for them books I don't know if she had a place for them or not I just saw that well anyhow we've been looking at
them we've been looking at those 30 years and I bet you half of them are the same one and I'm okay but I think we should I kind of like this out here because like I said there are some people that do Comm in and get vks for they grandkids out of here that store that I go to all the time my wife drags me around uh down in lower North Mano by it was the old Harley-Davidson now it's oh yeah they've got a whole book section in there and people buy books there all the time you could donate them to them
and yeah yeah because they my wife goes through that book room every time and picks out a couple well tell her to come up here take about 14 dozen but um that might be an option if to donate them there could be but we'll still be looking at him and you guys will still be looking at him next year to get rid of y we'll do another week and I'm sure we'll hear something y okay that being said no more business somebody make a motion
to adjourn I'll make a motion to adj a second second all in favor say I I iOS motion