All right. Good evening everybody. Uh let's call the meeting to order. Please stand for our allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We do roll call. Uh, Mayor Ernie Valenzuela, Joe Benda, concert, Michael Bor, Janine. All righty. Um, approve or amend the
agenda. Make a motion to approve the agenda. All in favor? Opposed? Motion approved. Uh request uh approve minutes from May 14th, 2025 city council work
session. I'll make a motion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion passed. Uh consent agenda. Um approve resolution number
25-08 cup request for 308 1 Avenue with conditions. Approve uh amendments uh to sort to ordinance 164 golf carts ATVs ordinance approve city of goody
application for subdivision for sale of property to school. Make a motion to uh approve the consent agenda. I'll second. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion approved. Old business. None. Uh, new business. We have uh Heather Evenson, parking violation. [Applause]
go up to the microphone and we'll give you five minutes. My name is Heather Enson and we got a parking violation back in March. Here it is. I'm sure I don't know if everybody's seen it. Um,
I we saw him come take the pictures on the 21st. Um, I just wonder why nobody could even stop and just talk to us. Um, on the 26th was when we got the letter. Uh, on May 10th, we got that was
a Saturday. Uh, cop rang our doorbell at 7:40 saying that the Suburban had not been moved. The Suburban was moved on April 15th, 25th, 29th, 30th, May 2nd, 6th, 8th, 12th, 13th,
16th. And so who's ever watching us isn't doing their job very good. Um, no, it's not our vehicle that we drive every day. Um, we've had it in our yard for over four years. I know that this picture here was still from winter. Yes, we do
park our vehicles in our lawn in the winter. Um, and we had moved them and it still snowed two more times after we got this letter. Um, I have right here 18 pictures and I ran out of ink
and I went to Walmart of other people in our town who are on their lawns who have been there since we've got this. I will call who's ever calling the cops and whoever took whoever sent and is
complaining of our yard. Um I'm wondering why these other 18 people didn't get letters and there's a few more on my camera roll. Um I would be calling it bullying and harassment. Well, we can
only act on what people complain about. You know, if there's somebody else that has So, because my name isn't Tomford or because my name isn't Tuman or because my name isn't Reed that somebody's not going to complain about
me. I don't think that has anything to do with it. I have many, many pictures of Travis in and out of his yard. Not with just his work car, not with just the girls's car, but with his truck also during the week
when you guys are when the city is working. Last summer, we also had um Jason come up to our house and knock and was talking with our teenage boys about us pouring cement and needing a permit.
We weren't pouring cement nor we did we need a permit and he was trying to get information out of them. Very frustrated with the city. Very frustrated as we should be. Like I said it's bullying and harassment. And it's
not just it shouldn't if this right here says right here if this is a law it shouldn't matter if it's my car or anybody else's car. It shouldn't matter if it's a complaint. Well, that's the way the thing operates. So, people don't It doesn't get taken
care of unless somebody complains about it. Okay. So, right here it says um parked outside in the front. I can park on Fifth Avenue because that's my sidewalk. That's not my front yard. So, I I think I understand you're upset and
frustrated. I I hear you. Um, I I think what Joe's trying to say is so the police don't drive around and take pictures. They don't It was a city. No. Yes, it was. Wait, wait, wait. Let
me Can I finish? Yeah. So, I think how these work, and correct me if I'm wrong, somebody has to call and complain, right? And so, a somebody who lives in the city, right? Calls and says, They're picking on you. They're not
picking on so and so. They're not picking on so and so. Right. So, they call and complain. So, so the 18 pictures that you have, right? And I know exactly one of the ones you're talking about, right? Nobody's calling and complaining. Why are we Why do we feel then that we
are the only ones? Like I said, somebody is obviously nitpicking and you can't somebody I don't know. That's a good question. Why are all these other people not getting letters? Because we don't because they don't drive. Because nobody filed a complaint. Nobody filed a
complaint. Okay. So, I should file a complaint. Okay. Um and so I guess I'm not the cop also said just so you guys are aware that the vehicle was chocked
by his partner and the vehicle was moved. Just so you are aware. Huh? Say that again. The the cop said that when he came to our house on the 10th that the vehicle was chocked by his partner. So,
you know, they'll chalk the I'm sorry. I was Okay. I'm sorry. I I was having trouble following it. Okay. Chopped. I see what you that it was chocked and he could tell that the vehicle had been moved. [Music] I mean, it's unfortunate that somebody
called on you, but you know, you also as a citizen in the community have the right to call on everybody else or make complaints, you know. But I think the big thing here is is there is you're not supposed to park vehicles in your yard. Yeah. Right. But
I think to her point, she's saying No. Right. And I And I get that. And I get that. Whoever it was, I don't know. No, I I get that. I see it all the time. I do, too. But somebody filed a complaint. Okay. We followed up with that
complaint. Okay. Okay. Now, you have every right to send 18 letters to the administrator and city clerk saying, "These 18 people are parking in front of their house." and they will get sent letters just like you did. Okay. So,
whoever did the complaining, I have no idea who it is. I'm not privy to that apparently. Um, but got a pretty good idea, but it doesn't matter. But, you know, it's you can park on the street, you can park anywhere you want other
than in your yard. So, off streetet parking, you know, you can park on the street. However, you also have to be, you know, cognizant of obstructing traffic from people turning, whatever other stuff. So, when we parked on Fifth
Avenue in front of Joe's house, you know what? We've never seen so many cars stop at that stop sign because they can't go right around the corner because they can't see. Um, we've also had um a kid and there
again I'll probably make a this we had a kid on Fifth Avenue who's been riding a moped up and down the street. Yeah. Not not just about that. Not that I I worry more about the two
call staff behind us where we have first responders and firefighters that come down like a bad and and that's just what they're doing because they're getting the call that somebody's going to get hit. We have um we have kids who are under 18 who are driving side by side
without helmets. You know, I could go on and on. Everybody sees people think they see everything on the corner. We see everything unfortunately. Not that we want to, but we do. They're on the corner just the way our house is sitting.
No, nobody nobody I agree with you. Nobody stops at those two stops and three stop signs. Right. Some of them slow down, but they all roll through about one out of every 15 vehicles, I would say, actually stops. Yep. the rest
just roll through and that's the way it was. Well, it's an enforcement deal. You have to catch them to do it. But it's it's not good. I don't like it because a little kid can come down that road, that hill with a
bicycle and there's pine trees on your neighbor across the street, blocks their view. So, I mean, they come up there and they don't have any intention to stop them. And that little kid's going to get snuffed. Well, not just there, but up in the new edition, too. I've had I had one
time five girls come out and the last girl yelled at everybody. Nobody was paying attention. Yeah. By Lex's house there. It's It's a problem we have in Good people respecting stop signs and we've tried we've passed out a
few tickets, but uh you know, it's hard to get everybody. So I think so we don't get so far off the the topic here for you is that you know I think one of the things we can do is let law enforcement know to keep an
eye on those specific areas. We you know and we can't speak on what other uh citations that are being given out to other people for these certain things. Um we appreciate you coming in. Um if is there anything else that you would like
to add pertaining to yours your case? All right. Thank you. I appreciate it. Next, we have uh Jeremy and Melissa Thomper. Outdoor outdoor storage ordinance violation. I don't understand any of this because I
have nothing here that in this ordinance that's highlighted is my That's where I keep my equipment. My commercial vehicles there. I don't I don't understand English. Isn't by your house. It's down by your
shop. The pictures are of the shop is all of our equipment. My equipment is parked at my shop. Yeah, I've seen it there. But these are things that are haven't moved in how long? I use them all the time. all the time. So
the plows and the grater and all that. Well, the hasn't moved in a while, but it has moved, but the the dump truck and the truck the truck can move almost daily. And so can the greater the back. I don't understand why. Well, just like we spoke, it's it's
someone calls in and complains about a nuisance. The ordinance that you have put against us is not what you're showing us because the ordinance is talking about storage of materials, goods, and products. There is not storage of goods, materials, and
products there. It is the equipment that we use for our business. And it in the letter commercial vehicle and I see exactly where they're coming from with this is, you know, you have a snow plow
that you have at your house. Well, it doesn't always snow. It doesn't always move, but it's equipment. Well, same thing with their snow plows is it may not move. It may move, but it may not
move. the dump truck, everything there moved. And that's where I I was stuck on this that this isn't this is equipment, this isn't goods, this isn't material, this isn't none of that. So, it was kind of shocking to see that this one
actually came through after talking with the city. They said, "Well, we verified this and it was in fact a violation and we sent it out." And I don't see how that was, unless you guys can explain to me how that was a violation. I I don't foresee a violation in his his business
down there. There's equipment you use every day or every other day. I mean, it's in his lot. Yeah. It's the same as egg partners, right? Yeah. All their stuff that's stored at their lot. I mean, there was what did
they say? 15t from the street, you could have a fence. Well, if you put 15 feet from the street, if you put a You never move anything in there. Not on that far. on the road. So, you got property line, driveway,
fence, alley. I just not enough room to put a fence anywhere. Yeah. No. And that's been a business for many, many, many, many years. And it's never needed a fence. I uh I guess I didn't
realize that. I thought maybe it was up at your house or something. I didn't realize it was at your business. I don't know who because if this is the way it's supposed to be for our business, then we need to make Pioneer because they've got
all of their stuff. There should be fences around and workers next to because it's across from a dwelling resurre business that has commercial vehicles. Mhm. Well, this is a perfect example why we have this set up the way
we do. You get a complaint, able to come in, voice your opinion. We appreciate it and we'll continue to, you know, to discuss it. I would like to make a a note about the complaint that this
process this letter purposely got to us so that if we that it came to us prior like it says your your violation is not corrected by May 27th which was yesterday. opportunity to go to a council meeting.
This didn't unless we came in and complained, we would not have been able to just physically come to a council meeting and and voice our opinion because we would have already been getting our violation ordinance. So, this was put
out in between two council meetings. So, we can't even voice our opinion and that is not appropriate and not in good manner for the city. You can't tell me you don't know the dates of the council meeting. You could have waited three days. What I'm saying
is I explained to you when you came in by you coming in. But I'm saying please let me finish. I explained to you when you came in by you coming in and asking to be on the agenda, it stopped the process. Correct. But for other individuals that would have been in our
same boat, they may not have realized that by just coming in and saying we need to get put on the agenda thinking that they should come to a city council meeting and voice their opinion at that point in time. They are past that time frame. We've had we've had several
people do that. You're not the only one. We've had several people that have asked to be processed. That's not what I'm saying. So I I think one way to to in these letters that we're sending out that in the event such violation is not
corrected by such and such date, I think it needs or may need to be rewarded to you need to make or get put on the agenda. you you you need to have uh I'm trying to think of the words right now like stop in the office before this date to have a
conversation because then that way it will stop the process or if they don't come in well then that's on them whereas it's if the violation is not corrected people may not know that they need to come down here and correct it. So maybe
if we put in there, you know, stop by the city hall by May 27th to address the concern. Thank you. Change can be made. The letters that are sent out were approved by council last year that when
the ordinance happened uh in June, right? And I think there's, you know, case by case basis where, you know, I understand what the Tomfords are saying that May 27th falls one day before a meeting. Well, that would just so happen to be on this one, whereas the next one
may not. It may fall after the meeting. So, it just I think we just need to maybe reward it to where they come in before because what is it? Is it 30 days? 14 for the first. Oh, yeah. 14. So, uh,
you know, put in there you have 14 days from the date of this letter to come down to city hall to address your concerns or to be put on the city agenda type thing. Yeah. Because it has to come before us no matter what. It's not something even if leis heard the their
point here, it still has to come to before us. So, yeah, that's valid. the the date when I look back at um because when you had asked about the date you had asked about the date um when I look back in the minutes it was
suggested by council at the time 30 days and say that's too long so everything believe me when letters go out I am not purposely back behind because she sends them out when she gets home the complaint every
I that's fine but you could literally waited 3 days so it would have fallen on the 30th instead of the 27th. So person had the opportunity to come to the meeting looking at this letter. It doesn't look that much. Well, we'll make that change. So thanks for bringing that
to our attention. That's very helpful. It is. I I agree with you and I am a strong believer in a commercial property has to have space to store their equipment. I mean, there's just, you
know, there's stuff you use every day. There's stuff you might use once a week, two two times a month, whatever. But yeah, snowplow, for instance, it could be next fall. I own a lot more equipment. I just Yeah, it's uh So,
whoever's complaining, I'm g recent. Well, I uh I hope it doesn't get to that, but I understand I understand what you guys are saying and I kind of agree with you. I mean, it's it's uh it's, you know, we
want to keep everybody happy, but and we don't want to piss people off. It's just we like to work with people and I hope that we're we present ourselves as you can come and talk to us
and we will try to work with you. You know, still not sure which ordinance I'm violating, but Like I said, I don't I don't think there is because it falls under the screening and it's the the items that are in the
pictures here are like I said, it's not you don't have you don't crushed rock sitting there or anything like that. No. Well, that if it was crushed rock that would to me that would fall under materials and goods and stuff like that,
which a snow plow um a truck does not in my opinion not there very long right because I needed a little bit here and a little bit there so I dumped it there so I could carry a little bit here and a little bit
so I think um I'm speaking for my part but I think that that one was mistake on our part I agree Anything else? All right. Thank you for coming in. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you. Are we done?
Thank you very much. Yeah. Unless you want to stay. You can hang out. All right. So, we'll move on to um Second Street Public License renewal and license request. We do not have the representative here
for that. Well, I think we she's sent everything, right? Yeah. But there are So, one question I have is so the liquor fees, why why the crossman written in?
Okay. Wait, what's Which one are you looking at, Michael? So, I'm looking at like the very front page right here. So it's it's cross it was zero. Yeah, it was zero. So this
is when it was submitted to it was already paid by it was written on both ahead. So they said go ahead. Okay. Yeah. So, it looks like they want to do something down at J Hill. Everybody
knows where that is. Right on the corner. Um, Red Aspen, that's um a new business and some jewelry. So, did somebody tell Sarah to come or I don't think she thought she needed
to be here. So yes, this is this is their liquor license. Okay. So I can send their information to get Do we know if there has been any
violations last year? signed up. Yeah, I guess it does. I'll make a motion to accept the Second Street Pub Alcohol Gambling Enforcement Liquor
License. I'll second that. All in favor? I opposed motion approved. So this is for the then the second one will be the specialy permit. So I think this is the one where she
probably should have been here for this. Well, if you had questions. Yeah. I mean, I think it's pretty cut and dry. She did provide a lot of information. Yeah. Insurance. Yeah. They're going to sell some wine, I guess, from Veno in the valley at the
farmers market, which that's good. Provide liquor and wine like the little tiny cups. Yeah, it's just it's not selling though. It's just sampling. Okay. I thought it said sell locally made wines and spirits
during market hours from the farmers market. But I think they're bottles like bottles, not open. Yeah, but her but her license from the Second Street Pub travels with her. No. So, a
liquor license is only good for an establishment. If you have if you are So, so let's say you want to have an event at J Hill. That's why she needs to have a separate liquor license for that establishment. Then, so you need to have a a liquor license for each time you
move. Um, so that's why she needs to have one for the farmers market series because that location needs one. And then she needs a needs a liquor license then for the J Hill location. Um, so they have what's called like an annual which is for a brick and mortar
establishment and then you can do one, daily, weekly, weekend as well. Um, and so that's what this this farmers market one I'm assuming she would do. send in like a daily one go for the
this one for J Hill is already June 5th. So the correct and so that's she's not going to be able to get anything done in time for that one. No, the the state works is pretty quick on that stuff. As long as we if we
approve it today, she'll more than likely be able to get one. She has to pay a fee then. Okay. So, how do we determine the fee? Uh the fees are through the state, correct? Yes. Yes. The city wouldn't have anything to do with that. Well, the city is supposed to
part of our the state. Correct. Yeah. We have we get our uh fee schedule. There's that stuff on there for off sale on sale. I don't know if that I don't know about temporaries because they said it based on the event. I'm not sure. Yeah.
So she'll have to bring in proof then prior to this event if she was able to get a separate liquor license to the city. No, this would be the proof approved tonight and she would
need to pay the she would she would send in and then send or she would send it to she has to pay the sta fee then. Yes. Okay. temporary because this the early
one is paid to us paid to the state. So the but they're not testing something. So the next page that you guys might not have looked at um is
the covers the whatever the specialty thing and it says special provision sports conventions or cultural facilities, community festivals. The governing body of a municipality may authorize a holder of a retail on sale.
intoxicating liquor license issued by the municipality or by the adjacent municipality to disperse intoxicating liquor at any convention, banquet, conference, meeting or social affair conducted on the premises of a sports convention, cultural facility owned by
the municipality or instrumentally thereof having independent policym appropriate authority located within. So, um, so she's allowed to do this. My only concern
is the one is on city and I think that's where this fits. If it's on municipality, that means it to be. So, city or municipality may authorize
the holder of a liquor license. It sounds like she did her homework. So, I don't know if it's on city property. I think she just wants parking spaces blocked out. I think they're going to have it. Well, it says it can be the second one is at uh the
farmers market at the Lions building which is owned by the city. So, liquor off the premise. So, at a community festival. So, if we approve it, it's for wherever
they want to do it. Um, I mean, it looks looks pretty good. I mean, I'll I'll make a motion to approve the Oh. Specialty liquor license request for Second Street Pub for the whiskey
and wine summer kickoff on Thursday, June 5th from 400 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. as well as the summer market summer farmers market series weekly permit request every Wednesday evening from July to
September or end of Amen. Do we get a second? All in favor? Opposed? Motion approved. All righty. Uh request for donations to farmers market for 250.
I'll make a motion to um give $250 to farmers market for the 2025 season. I'll second it. All in favor? Opposed? Motion passed.
All right. Uh, administrator's report. I hate to harp on this, but um I I don't know why the whole lines thing has stalled. It's It's been months. I don't. So, I I guess we either
to meet with them again. Um, last week that was the second time. Should we ask to meet with them again? Go ahead. You can go ahead. So, who are the who are you contacting there?
Ninger. Yeah. So, that's who he's the secretary. Okay. And I feel like I ask this question every time we meet and I feel like a broken record. So we're waiting to talk about what again? They haven't signed the
amended lease that they asked. Okay, that's what I thought to sign. That's my thought. And now they have they submitted a liquor license for their nothing. Okay.
I asked that also on that and so it's just everything and do we determine if they even need a liquor license for their setups? They do. They would really. So we just need a a request from them, you know. I mean, we
require everyone else that has a to to get a liquor license. Why would there be an exception? Well, those are bars. Well, there there are certain stipulations with theirs that like if they have the liquor in there, but they
people bringing their own cups. I mean, setup license is what they have. They have a setup license. They do or I thought it was determined that they don't have one. They do with the state, but just like Second Street, the city
needs to give them a permit to allow it to happen within city and we just need a request that states that they do have they're essentially bypassing the city and going straight to the state. Yeah. Whereas like this form right here, the
alcohol Yeah. Yeah. I mean, see, I always thought I thought the state would I always thought the state kicked it back cuz see, I thought it was because I thought at the last at the meeting when we had with them, I thought we discussed and I thought it was the gambling permit that went directly to the state. That
one does does the I thought it was determined that they didn't have a setup. No, he sent me 250ish. Well, I would say I would say send them another email or whatever it is this
time, you know, CC the mayor on it and give them an end date. Say, I want this done by this date, right? I mean, because what's going to happen? We take our building back. I don't I mean, I don't know what the right answer is, but they're No, I just don't want it three months from now. It's going to be
another problem. I agree. It's simple enough if they just do their paperwork. Yeah, they did. They agreed to the changes in the amendment that Bob proposed. that I don't know what the delay is. So, I think we should just contact the president of the Lions and say, you know, we need this stuff taken
care of so we don't have to worry about it. But I don't think this is just about the lease. Let's not I mean, it's about the 10% donations to the city, right? Most likely it is. So, it's the lease the lease is not the only issue, right?
But that's all stated in the lease. Oh, that's all stated within the lease. just needs to be signed and taken care of, right? And and that's one thing is is I was approached by one of alliance members Tom Pash about the 10% and and I
stated to him I understand that you guys do donate more than 10% but the question was why did this choose 10%. And to that answer I told him I don't know this that was created way before me. I understand that that's a state law and
that's what's that's what's maximum for what a city can require. Now why the city of Goody decided to request that much I have no idea and I can't attest to that because that was before me. It all came it all came about because they
wanted us to hold money for them. But we couldn't do it unless they were giving at least 10% of what they gave away so we could legally hold it. Right. Right. But they because they have to give us 10% that is not earmarked for
anything. It's up to our discretion to spend the earmarked portion. Yes. And the earmarked portion is for the maintenance is for the maintenance and that does not account for towards the 10% that is given to us. Right. Correct.
And that is still that is still there. So if we did want to do 10% we'd have to pass an order in saying it was eight. Correct. Seven. I don't think we can. That's a state law. 10%. No. No. Up to 10%. So in reality, city can ask for
zero organ. Yeah. We could ask for zero. Yeah. But you can't ask for more than 10. I don't think we want to go less than 10. I think we need to take what we can get. I mean on the on the same note as that
though is they they do give a lot they do usually that 10% has nothing to do with Right. Yeah. And and that was the thing that Tom had brought up to me is is that uh yes I you know he goes we we donate over 10%. But it has to be in the
stated in our ordinance and our lease agreement that it has to be transparent to the city that they donate over or at at minimum the 10%. Yeah. Um so do you think they're not happy with the 10 or No, I I think they're
good with it. That's good. I think it's just definition of net profits because they had indicated that their account total by the end of the year we ended up with $800 984 or something like that. So they're thinking they're giving way
more. But that's not the definition in statute of what net profits is. It's the profits after they sell, pay the prices, pay the fees and and and taxes that they have to do it. And on that form that they submit to the state, it had a very
different number than the $984 that they said was their net profits. It's not net profits after they make all of their donations at the end of the year. It's the net profits they end up with after they pay the state
fees and the state taxes on that. And it was $350,000, not is a huge I think that's what they're thinking about.
Just my my feel. I don't know that future. Well, again, until we meet with them or set a deadline in the sand, we're just going to continue to have the same conversation. So, I don't know. Yeah. Let's just get that letter sent again
and and say you guys really we need to talk on it June 30th or I don't know what Yeah, give him a deadline. Agreed. And you said maybe I'll send him to the president. Well, he's the guy that's supposed to take care of who it's going
to go to is is whoever the president. Do you know who it is? Mike Hinch. I've only been dealing with Mike. Yeah. Don't ask me for any contact information because I don't have that. I just know who the guy is. Yeah. Uh probably,
but make sure that all of that stuff is there. There Joe. This is the book. All right. Anything else? Yeah, I got something as a council person. Okay. Did we not have the sheriff department go up
and talk to our little guy that's 8-year-old that's running up and down the street with the motorcycle? if they visually have seen him cuz we've gotten complaints. Yeah, he was out rotten again the other day. Nap time. Did you
call? Did I call who? The sheriff. Did you call? No, I don't have the sheriff's number. We did. Oh, you guys did call. One of the times. Okay. Besides other complaints, we called because he I don't think he understands the
seriousness. If it's during the day, I don't believe he understand his dad understands the seriousness of this whole thing. An eight-year-old riding a dirt bike on the street if he gets put in a position where he has to make a important
decision. He's not capable of that, right? And he needs to be told that he cannot do that. So, I think pretty sure there's a uh an ordinance in there where you're not allowed to ride a dirt bike on the street. I don't know for sure,
but I think we need to send the sheriff up there and tell him we can't do it. Why don't you send the sheriff up there to scare him? His dad doesn't seem to take anything from these areas. Yes. But if they can't
Can they try to take a video? It's a nuisance. They have to see it. You know what? You can't take a video. They have to. I just am afraid of a
eight-year-old making the right decision in a crucial moment and gets hurt and all of a sudden we have all these lawsuits about this and that and that when it could have been prevented when you say you an 8-year-old cannot ride a
dirt bike on the street. Period. And and so this is where this one like Bob here for a minute. Is this are we turning this from a civil matter and trying to push it into a city matter? No, it's not a I mean I'm just
it's a matter for protecting all the citizens a good I do understand that 100%. And we do have an ordinance about that if someone doesn't follow the ordinance that a is their own discretion to do and they have
to be okay with the consequences. We can't force anyone to do anything. We can do our best. Well, I think they should have the sheriff's department just stop up there and say, "This young man cannot be riding the street." So, obviously, we've had a
complaint. Okay. So, I think the next step would be find out where it is in the ordinance, the city ordinances that that would fall under. And then we just like
everybody else, it's a ordinance violation. They should receive a letter in the mail stating such just like everybody else did because there there is no difference here. It's it's a public nuisance. And I guess that's that's what I was trying to
bring up is doing it the proper channels. Correct. Yeah. I mean, it's a private town and down the street taking care of business versus No, no. And they don't have to be. Uh, well, depends how many cc's it is. Depends on how many cc's, but it's a
50cc CR or CR50. And it's not licensed. What is it? The dirt bike. Yeah, it's a Honda CR50. And I just have one other comment. Sorry. Maybe this is on the same thing that we're talking about
ordinances. Um maybe I guess what I heard tonight is so somebody complains and we just send out a letter. You don't try to contact them and say, "Hey, you received a complaint." Well, there's invest
there's a visual and pictures and Is is there a committee for complaints where I guess my thought is is we could have a complaint that you know some of these complaints as as we found out tonight are that
seems personal are either personal or misconstrued as we found out tonight as well. And so is there a way that we could have or is there already there's not a committee if I remember correct um but maybe we should look at creating a
committee of one or two members um as well as a city staff member to look at the complaint. see um what what is the complaint in reference to, what ordinance it then would violate, and see
if it it fits to be an accurate complaint um before the letter gets sent out. I agree. I I didn't like to hear that they knocked at her door. It's quarter after 7 in the morning. I mean, as a parent to have a state police officer
knock on your door, that that would that's terrifying. 7:4 that that was very upsetting to me which that has nothing to do with the city part of that. No, no, it doesn't. But and it just may be when that deputies in town. I get it. During that time, I I don't know. It just it just
struck me in in in my head that you know and then another thing is do we know who makes these complaints? Is that I do a state confidential? Well, confidential and anonymous are too. You mean confidential? City Council confidential.
I don't tell anybody. Okay. Because twice I've had somebody coming in here stating I want to know who did the complaint. Now that cannot end well. Correct. Yeah. That's bad. No, I'm just
talking about if we had an ordinance committee then because sometimes you wonder is it the same person over and over and over again? And I understand where you can't release that information
to people within the city. But for people that are enforcing those ordinances, I would almost think that city council mayors and stuff like that is exempt from that. That's what I would like to figure out because I would
really like to know where these uh complaints are coming from because it's like would it matter? Would it change anything? I think sometimes it Well, no, but I think it I think we I mean that's my only thing. I I don't it
becomes a tit for tat non who you're going to send the letter to, who you're not going to send the letter. Well, and then it becomes public record. That's I think Heather made a valid point on that is who gets a letter and who doesn't get a letter. I mean, we can't we can't do
this based on who someone is. We have to do it across the board. Exactly. So, it's I mean, my only think about is somebody afraid to complain on another person because of who they are? I don't I mean if it were up to me I would
be writing complaints on everybody that was in violation but and that certainly can be done. I mean we have sent out almost 30 of them. See I I think it's a small city like I feel and this is just a
personal like there are more ordinance violations here than there were in city of Pittsburgh. I I I just don't like I can't get a handle on because in looking at the past and I'm only going by what I see what I can
find in this building past ordinance violations were not either done or it they were not enforced or it was based on who you were and a decision was based off who you were and they decided not to
do anything about it. So now the whats are okay. But if the process was the same then how could it be based on who you were when the letters are already sent out because they didn't send letters out. It was not. Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Okay. Okay. At all. And I also know for
a fact in in the past they there was no complaints. people were just going and but do you understand the misconception that that and I forget her name that came and spoke she was totally like thinking that we drove around and did it
that um exactly you know that this wasn't a private citizen. So, I guess to Chris's point, I guess how do you ensure it isn't, you know, one person causing all kind of trouble? You know, is these complaints come from multiple different
people? Are they the same person? Is it per like I don't know how you ever Well, that's easy. But I guess she sees the name. And I see the name. I investigated. I believe that's what is part of my job description is to deal with complaints, right? we'll get the
job description and show it to you. So, it's me. It's on me. It's part of my job to enforce it. Me not being a citizen here. I'm not related to anybody. I'm looking at it from action. Okay. So, so here's a good this
so that there's your statement. So, here here's a question. If you would happen to start seeing a pattern of a same individual, how do you handle that? Do you have is there protocol for you? It hasn't
happened yet, right? But something I speak to them because there are times that I directly speak to people. They don't get a letter. Okay. The dog, the dog one, I didn't really know how to handle the dog poop one, so I just went and spoke to him.
Sometimes I call them on the phone, sometimes, you know, it's it depends on on but no, they're not all there's people who do complaints and nothing is done with them because I tell them that is not anything that is actionable. There are more. They're not all seven
letters. Well, what determines? So, okay. So, I'll give you a perfect example. The second one that we talked about. So, they they never should have gotten a letter, right? I think we determine that. So, do you call everybody
or like what I guess that's where I'm struggling. So, does you're asking basically does the city have a procedure that you follow? Yeah. So, you say you don't call everybody I didn't call the only one um exception was the dog poop
going. I really did not know it was a concern about her water because of where the dog poop was. And I thought, okay, I'm not going to send a letter because it's really not a violation. It wasn't a violation of an ordinance. It was just a a complaint that somebody had about
water being tainted by the amount of dog feces above a gutter. So, I found out who and I just called them up and said, "Hey, we've gotten some complaints because I didn't it wasn't an ordinance
violation. It was a courtesy call asking to do something just like the pool people." We a courtesy reminder. So you do it one way with a courtesy reminder and it ends up poorly.
You send letters and it ends up poorly sometimes. Both ways it can happen. It's it's hard to get around that. I mean people going to be a community setting. A lot of people complain about
anything but it's hard to get around if somebody gets called on. They think right away the first thing they think is they're picking on me, you know, but that's true. You know, maybe not. Maybe you should check around a little bit.
The uh like the uh the driving a golf cart the other day. I seen five kids driving a golf cart. I don't think there was one in that cart. There was over 10. Yep. They
drove by my house too as I was signing my They're all yelling and screaming and hollering. I'm thinking like what the hell don't you people understand, you know? I mean there there's consequences to deal with when you understand when one of them falls off
and exactly how we make the change. So there is an age and I will be putting it out as an alert. It'll be in the newsletter. So it will be on the website posted in all the places.
And that's the thing I worry about like kids under 16, you know, they get on there and they're having a grand time. They get to drive. My god, they never drove before. They don't know anything about the rules of how you're supposed to drive. They drive wherever they want, yelling, screaming out and have a great
time. That's good until somebody gets hurt. And school ends this week. I imagine that intake. Yeah, uptick. I think we do need to change the ordinance letter. I think we just keep keep happening and see how many people keep showing up.
[Music] Um, anybody else got anything on that portion? I would say send out the ordinance. Talk just call them. Maybe if you get a complaint, call them and talk to them. And if they don't do anything
about it, then send out an ordinance. Yeah. Maybe put a little line on their name, you know, first attempt, second attempt, third attempt. You know, if you call and nobody's there, say, "Hey, first attempt was here, left a message, you know, whatever." I mean, we got to
we got to that's where documentation just comes in crucially. All right. So, anything else for council comments? I I did. So, um we had another um meeting with the uh fire department um
on our on our board to go forth and and really um to move forward as a department um we really need to see a motion from the city here um stating that we do or do not want to become a
um district partner as a equal percentage partner. Um we are we are doing our partnership based off of 50% population, 50% um land value. Um that's
what we we came the the five of us came to agree upon to be the most um fair and most fairest way to do it. I mean that's really what what it came down to be. So
I think we are that's good resolution to be part that whole thing where we were the only one that wasn't a member to be a member I thought we kind of cumulatively agreed but there was never
technically a a motion I thought usually never seen the signatures because we signed it all the other people were on it and we but I thought you were going to change the chart you had chart that was in there.
The chart, there were three charts and and um I I discussed at that one that the because we had talked about four different ways to do it. Um and really the most viable option for us to do it was to be 50% population, 50% land
value. Um, it would roughly at $150,000 levy, it would put Goodyu paying roughly 36,000 I thought it was. Um, obviously with Goodyu joining in and not paying the maintenance fees and some different
things, we are probably going to have to raise the levy um next year, but um just to absorb the costs within the fire department. Um, but I think overall
it'll be the most fair way to do it. I I thought we did that. I really did because it when they were going to redo it and say that it was going to go up because we weren't partnership. But you want to do a motion to do it
just in case. I think we might I think we should look into it for sure. Yeah. Figure out what it is exactly and then I mean if anything we can always do it on the work meeting. Yeah. Just to make sure we're
not double double something. I I'll check that something is that it was okay because it was found that we weren't and that wouldn't do
this change. Um the only the only thing that I I wanted to make sure that verify because I'm doing budgets for 2026 this is indeed yep like firemen pay workers comp and
train. So I can pull those out of those respective line items and increase the fire department. Um the only thing I have is uh after the last meeting um I was going home and I
spoke spoke to um Mr. Kennedy and let him know about the bulk fest and the underage consumption. Oh, you did? and the um underage serving and all of that. And he said that um he is very well aware of that and he will try his
hardest to um police that type of stuff. However, with him being the president, it's hard for him solely to do that. Um, and I said, "Well, that's, you know, we kind of come to an what we thought we
would like to see happen, and that was by not having anybody that would be under the age of 18 having anything to do with alcohol, um, beer tent, liquor tent, whatever adhesive." Well, they, you know, they would typically work in
the center bubble where they give out the drink tickets. Well, that's fine and dandy, but then it's easy for them to just go and have drink tickets. Have a drink tickets. So, he said, "Usually part of the cleanup and working the tickets outside." And I said, "I'm going
to leave it up to you to figure this out." I said, "But in years past, I personally have noticed people under the age of 18 serving and consuming alcohol." And I said, "I will not tolerate it anymore." Um, and you know,
you could risk not getting your liquor license in the future for said type of behavior. And he said he understands he will take it to the next meeting and he will let them know that it will not be tolerated. Well, they should understand. I mean, that's their money maker for the
year. I mean, they they got to take it serious. You just can't do what you feel like doing. And I contacted Matt Jacobs who's our contact sheriffs. I don't know if they have a packet whatever they do for us and I guess king
off here is their um Chris is like I also talked to Traven about it. um and spoke with him and and he had stated very similar things to me as well as he also added that in recent years and I I
don't remember how recent but I I know it was in the last just couple years they did make it um so technically to be a member of the JC's by its overwhelming organization you had to be 16 or older um goodu has taken a step further and required you to
be graduated from high school um to be a part of it to try to eliminate under 18y olds from from being involved so that at least it's legal for them to handle liquor. Um now that doesn't uh deter the underage drinking,
but it makes it so that a 16-year-old isn't at least pouring. Yeah. I mean 16year-old has no responsibility as far as handling liquor. That's just the way it is. Well, and I know that I know that if that was the route that they were
going, I know that that was not in effect last year. Okay. So, u and I specifically spoke to the individual you mentioned and expressed that. So, anyway, that's all I got. Let's see how it goes um this
year. Okay. Good with council comments. All right. So, mayor comments. I have two quick ones. One concerning thing is uh the speaker we had tonight, one of the things in her letter is talking
about us not communicating these um matters with other residents. Um, I think we all know better than that anyways, but I just think it's something that it's okay for us
to refresh our minds with of keeping these matters amongst us. And um, it's unfortunate she feels this way because I don't see that or hear that
happening with anybody here. So, just wanted to say that. And then Uh the other thing is um just FYI, two of the pools that we had some issues with are gone now. We won't be having to deal
with fencing and things like that. So yeah, there was quite a kuruffle on the face and I was tagged in it. Michael was tagged in it and I don't know if you
guys saw any of that but my um my response to the individual was I um responded with this is the ordinance involving pools and hot tubs
and gave the uh website and also a screenshot of the pool and hot tub ordinance for that. So, um, you know, it's there's a lot of people that overstepping here, but, um, not a lot of people know all the
information. Yeah. I gen, you know, that's a general cause of a lot of confusion is people that get these ideas that this is okay and that's okay, but they've never even looked at the ordinance. And that's all that we did was drop off a copy of the ordinance. We
knocked on the door. We waited. They didn't answer. We left it in the door. It was a courtesy reminder. Exactly. To do that and it went well and and exactly right. I mean, we had two people showed up today that
wanted to ask questions and inquiry about it. And you know, I mean, I've been here for two and a half years, and I think I've had half a dozen people show up to ask questions about it, and not a single person has ever showed up
that I can remember that regardless of pools. Yeah. So, I mean, it's like Well, that Yeah. And I appreciate cuz you know we don't want to get baited
into. So I appreciate that handling that way of keeping it simple and respectful. Um cuz you know we want as frustrating as it may be we we still want to continue to be respectful and yeah which you guys all seem to be
which I appreciate. So that's all I have. Um anything else? Okay. Motion to pay the bills. The one thing I just want to add is the bills certification of the life that we don't know what the cost is going to be.
So we just need to include in the claim approval an unknown amount under 2000 because there's 15 of them research that does not
Oh yeah and that will come on the next [Music] but she gets it on the day she certification. Oh, okay. All right. Well, I looked at the bills and I have no questions. So, I guess I'll make a
motion to to approve the bills as well as this. What you call it? Reertification. Reertification. I'll second. All in favor? Opposed? Motion to pay the bills
passed. Motion to adjurnn. Motion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion pass should be early July. I am working on it now.