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e e e e e e drinking water supply Management Area your area did expand so it expanded to
the southern portion um of your um of the dsma so it is bringing in a new agricultural land new townships right as well um what that means for you as a city that just means a little more education and Outreach to those Property
Owners to those local units of government what it means for those local units of government and for those Property Owners is that they're going to get support from the city and from other entities and making sure that they're not adding any potential contaminants
into the drinking water so that their actions on the surface are um being mindful of drinking water protection so it is the cities requirement to have a Wellhead protection plan that came um and um it
is the city's responsibility to implement that Wellhead protection plan um however it's it takes a lot it it takes a lot of Partnerships right corre so um we have good us swcd here present
who has been a phenomenal supporter in the implementing of your existing plan we hope to continue forward it keeps Department of Health Scot here today he's kind of my counterpart um in the Southeast area and then Minnesota Rural Water as well and those are just three
of the small units that um help with the implementation of the plan so I do have copies of um two copies of the full part one for you guys to keep as well um this again it's
already approved it outlines the um drinking water supply management area and I can toss around um I have kind of a condensed version if anybody's interested um because that's 70 pages of
reading this is 12 um so and um as well the second part because of your city's size um the part two development does require the city to um hire
consultant or to write in house which it's not a simple so a lot of the um municipalities will go the route of hiring in and we met today actually with your city consultant of isg so we um
created a plan for developing this part two because now we're going now that we know the area that we're protecting now we can um create management strategies to continue to protect that
area uh so so the management strategies that are created in the part two you're required to meet 75% of those management strategies and um myself as Pat I don't just help you
get a plan but I help you implement that plan as well so I won't just go run and hide after the plan is approved we have till 2028 to get the next por of the so once it's approved then you have years
implenting that plan the nice thing about um having a well protection plan is that it does give you access to um Minnesota Department of Health Grants um that are Source water protection grants up to
$10,000 they not join normous grants but the nice thing is they don't require a match so it's for anything that you identify in your plan um as a city so if we identify um supporting producers in the area adapting best management
practices for reducing nitrate bleaching we can support that and apply apply for Grant to support that which you guys actually have and we just wrapped up that grth from that um so if you're looking through the
packets that are passing around right now you'll notice that a lot of the drinking water supply Management areas outside your city jurisdiction right outside of your control so a lot of this is education Outreach and coordination it's working with the property owners
with the townships with the County government as well s swcds to help educate and help um adopt best management practices so it's not just an agricultural thing right contaminants
can come from egg it can come from urban area it's not just one individual or type of land use um as well so um there will definitely be a large portion of the plan that will focus
on let's see here what else that I would like to highlight on the plan development um the plan development we um discussed that we would um like to form a we Protection
Team and the reason we highly encourage a team is we want the people that are going to be players and partners to be at the time that we're de um at the meetings that we're developing the management strategies so we want to
invite the swcd to the table when we're um developing these strategies or the township to the table when we're developing these strategies to make sure we get their commitment before we identify anything that you're going to do right just going to sneak it in there and hope for the best so um we want to
make it um a plan that can support both all entities as well from your previous plan that drinking water supply Management Area you had a mixed vulnerability so there was moderate there was highly vulnerable
and it was kind of like little pockets with the new drinking water supply Management Area isly vulnerable and it also has a surface water area so what that means is what we are doing on the surface has a more
direct impact on the groundwater quality so that just tells us as planners as Department of Health that we have to inventory a larger list of potential contaminants with a moderate setting we
would inventory things such as um about low ground storage tanks we would inventory well every well with high vulnerable we're inventorying all Wells above and below ground storage tanks of
any size uh we're inventorying um feed lots and egg field so and the list continues to go on so as we since we bumped up across the board it's all highly vulnerable we're just going to be doing a more intensive inventory of
potential contaminants just because something's on the list this potential doesn't me is going to contaminate your water it's just that these are potential things that could so we want to be doing extra efforts to prevent it so um I come
from a farming background myself so um just because a field is in your dsma doesn't mean that it's directly you know that that the actions on that field are going to negatively impact however if it's not managed properly there is a
greater potential as well and I shouldn't say properly I guess in the most um environmental or sustainable egg format um so the uniformity really actually can
be a benefit to you as a community just because it kind of keeps everybody as an equal partner in it and it also helps on implementation on the side of like s swcds because um s swcds could get
funding from different sources um and now it can be a lot more uniform for funding so we might be able to only provide um as provide funding for somebody in a highly vulnerable but not in a moderate vulnerable now you can
it's uniform across your dsma so you don't have to worry about that vulnerability um variability in your drinking water supply Management Area when they develop that area um they
are looking for a um 10e time of travel so at the location of your primary well we have multiple laners so we have the well then we have a 200t radius which is called the inner Wellhead management and so on that's a broad brush blanket um no
not necessarily I want to say no science behind it but it's General 200 inventory 200 ft around the well you're required per state rule to monit that meet all well code setbacks for that but then in
modeling they created a um emergency response area that so in the handouts if you'll see the red um oong shape emergeny respon so there was aamin the ground
water within that region it would take bed St with your pumping it would take one year to hold up the distribution system so it's kind of a level of priority right then you have the ground water or the we of protection area which
is a 10e time of travel that again same concept that would contaminant in the a within that blue area it would take up to 10 years to be pulled up into your distribution system so truly this is a plan about
prevention and looking at a 10year time um to prevent any contaminant being pulled up into your distribution system it's always a lot more economical to prevent than it is to treat treatment is
expensive it's expensive to install but it's also expensive to maintain um and continued for that treatment and then because we don't know where this magical line is on the
surface right it's this oblong shape you don't know if you're in the dsma or if you're ever in the groundwater protection area or outside of it we snap it out to a political boundary so that could be a quarter section that could be
a um County Line it could be a to a road a property line as well and that's where we get that drinking water supply management area so there's just different layers in within that for different layers of protection as
well so our next steps for the city will be to um work with isg is who you had um indicated you were Consulting with on the development of that part too Scott and I are actually going to take team this one a little bit more um usually we
divide and conquer um but because um good Hue has high nitrates um because um the city is Al on the department of AIDS BR water um Brown waterer rule being under investigative stage we just want
to make sure that we're bringing all the partners to the table to provide better support for you guys as well um typically it takes a year to two to develop this part two um isgs um they're open to spe they're open
to Speed it along so um just know that once we get a draft plan it will go out for Local Government review for 60 days and then we'll incorporate comments reply a comments and then it will come
to a public hearing to city council um but then it also goes to the state for an additional 90 days um well s additional 90 days for review and approval so there's a good six months of approval process at the end so even if
we do get that plan written within about a year one year time time it'll be about a year and a half before you have an approved second approved Amendment plan so um I don't by any means expect you to
remember all of that that's that's my job to help guide Jason through all the hoops and moops and all the paperwork that's associated with it as well anything no I don't think so so like Katie said I'm Scot with the State Health Department and Katie and I both
were down here in the southeast part of the state so um kind of what the health department has done they realized a long time ago when we started doing this well head protection plan process is that we brought in row water to kind of do a lot of the legor for the smaller systems
because of the uh building and connection that they have based on the water and suicide is kind out initiated started so those relationships are already there so kati's position is a Farmville position actually I used to go with the water and did that position then came over to the health department
so pretty familiar with it um yeah you guys to a really good start here uh the S swcds are doing great work in your trck water supply management area with the soil Health Initiative you know as far as practices with nitrates like K7 soures for it um you know primarily lot
of time the the community gets to be the focus on it because the hydrates are be applied and since such majority of the landing in those areas so a lot of those practices that are in place um can make a difference you know that that area that Kat's talking about you see in the
map that's a 10e time of travel for that um you know but kind of some of the practices that I know some guys are talking here in the neory levels in their own well um I'd recommend when these practices are in place just kind of keep an idea you're old well and tested every year if these uh if these n
clinics are available just to see where those levels are at we do know you know like the city of good that you you do have water coming in that's going to be outside travel right that's what the city has to manage but uh you got an
area to the west of town it's called the the Coro Shale so you've got the geology where you got stuff coming down from the Limestone hitting that moving so you're going to be influences from outside that 10e time of travel but if we can do stuff on the landscape within there we should start turning that needle and
making improvements the district through one water sheding plans and their other activities are doing work in the county outside the area as well so as the whole package comes together the hope is that we continue to improve the N levels so
um anything we can do to uh continueous living cover keep the r in the ground that's going to over focus on a plan on I got to add the part you guys did get 97% of the acres into dma enrolled in some sort of best management which is amazing thank
you thank you to the producers and townships every body that part of that that that's going to go that's going to help a lot they had 1600 Acres as their goal for the project and they're at 97% of
the goal and um that's you'll see you'll see a lot of PR about that super proud nerdy moments but I think it's great and I know Jason has always told me that good Hugh is a community it's and I think the SU of the
project speaks that good you is a community um so we just hope to be able to continue forward with that and um also continue to support that within the next plan as well so right there'll be
some Outreach and some informational meetings so exactly are you guys involved with the three Wells that they're Drilling North of town the three you talk about the ones in state land up on the state land just before you go
down into H they they drove three big Wells there ground water no I have not been directly involved in that that will be something that we will be inventory though if it's within that drinking water supply management area so those gos will be identified within the plan
itself um I'm not certain and I can certainly dig into it to see you know those Wells are they you know I think they are I'm not positive are they yeah they're and I think they're I nobody really knew they were
doing that I think it's the DNR because that's why they're putting it up and I think they are just monitoring so they're NE they they go very deep and and they're probably nested and that's likely why they're doing free a lot of time we've seen an increase with DNR
instead of just doing a one individual monitoring well they want to kind of see that if there's a relationship between different you know at different depths so they put in like what they call a nest of monitoring LS at different depths um you will be able to um access
uh the monitoring little data if that's through DNR um they do have a public website to be able to get that tables and the readings of that as well but there um they have to register them through Department of Health um separate
division of Scott so they will be in the inventory once we get to that point Thank you so yeah as long as they're within that drinking water supply Management Area um I apologize I'm not sure distance wise but it's out it's outside
it would be outside then they wouldn't be in the plan so it fall inside that any questions for us at all you guys have anything no did a very good job of your presentation I guess we don't and it sounds like he did his
homework to 97% that's amazing you guys are I don't we're just here just to listen well no that's good and you know we talked about it like because we talked about that Wellhead protection team meeting and that was something we emphasized and um
I think that will be a great opportunity not that I mean have more than just those meetings talking about strategies but um we at the minimum would love to have um all the local units come to the management strategies so I do have one
question when that when that land Falls in that boundary do you want records on what the inputs are or is it more of a cover crop basis they need plan cover crops or you guys require them to no there's not going to be any requirement as a land owner as as a producer to show
any records what they're applying or will they be able to spread manure on it um so through this plan there's no restrictions on what their actions are because this is actually a plan for the city to have to implement um so it
doesn't come down to the individual landowner now um where the restrictions manure applications aren't part of the groundwater protection rule through um or the groundw or the P tra rule for Department of a um
there separate from that that's on the commercial side that is where you would see possible restrictions as a producer but right now um Department of EG has good Hue under um it's under good CA on
hold under good cause for investigation so they're looking for direct point source or you know direct large spills or leaks or um sources of nitrate and they have to do additional um
investigation with um with the co-op in in town here well on the township level everyone that has a feed lot has to work through our county level anyway so they have a manure plan yes management plan y so this doesn't Trump any of that and it
doesn't take any of that away as well I mean I'm there's there's plenty of players right and it's a lot of complexity because and our handles this that you know the quantity side of things and Department of Health handles the drinking water side of things and
Department of a some as well so um we just try to bring all those players to the table when we're developing this plan so that we have the support and um the Buy in from those because there's going to be things that the city themselves can't
individually do right it's not Jason's expertise maybe to write a cover proper plan so we need to make sure that we have the support from thecb to be doing that so so to figure back on your question we were talking about the nitrs and the
rates and hasn't hit seven yet so what MDA is doing an investigation of whether there's a point source or whether there's it's a non point source what um know if you look around lot of the township data and testing that's out there I don't know if you guys have that
so there's a lot of Wells that are out that are high in TR so I don't know what direction that'll come back but if it does come back that it's a Nonpoint issue with itda and if the nitrate levels get a hold to eight part trillion then it actually hits a regulatory
component of the groundwater Ru so whenever gets to that point then the producers and the do would meet with then they form what's called local advisory teams to come up with ideas to implement to try and basically I shouldn't say they're all the same but
it's very very similar to the practices that you guys are lot 97% of the producers in already so by doing this you guys got a leg up on it hopefully doesn't get to that enforcement with and all Farmers want
nitr they don't want to just all but yeah it's just kind of the it's nice when it can be done on a voluntary basis H rules um as far as the PD is that going
to come into um it possibly will some of there um So within the dsma previous TMA which was smaller there was about 2200 animal units within it so that does speak to the amount of manure that we have generated within the dsma um the um
npds permit is being updated right now or the rule is being updated right now so that is something that again it's outside of the Wellhead protection um plan that we're developing but that is something
that um to be mindful of new rules coming up um but that is strictly for the NPD npds C large animal units y y so we try to stay a breis on all of that
that itself can be a struggle just a little bit mindblowing but it um Scott and I come on the side from the egg on the egg side so um we just I think it's important to have us updated on that um
so that we can again support our communities that have a large amount of Aid do you feel that the cover crops help help with the nitrate situation I you know cover crops are definitely a benefit to
um to nitrate reduction it is it is a tool in toolbx right um it's not going if cover crops were the save all we could easily fix it but it's not going to be the save all right like it's all
one piece of the pie so it also is going to come down to you know the amount of nitrogen in your SE system your crop you know crop rotation be something that we can um you know look at diversifying but that also comes down to
the Commodities right because yeah we have alternative crops but are the markets there to support them um so you know we try to look at different ways to supporting the growth of other markets um but it's
not my opinion it's not there yet right um um so um but it's not to say that it can't get there but it's I don't think cover crops are the only thing out there um but they're definitely it's best to have living
green as much throughout the season and well we're already in a part of the state where we cannot apply nitrogen in the fall Y and is it in the areas where they have a different sub layer do they
not have the nitrate problems correct y they have that natural protection layer right they have that clay layer that doesn't allow it to get through down here in the Cur country the soils the other region State
just typically it would be the central Sands and the Southwest part of the state so there's other those shell soils remember sensitive areas scattered throughout but those are the three areas and then yeah like as far as the Cs go U I think it's a great place to
start everybody's in a different place with them a lot of The Producers you know single speci ride that's terminated early is is great place to start but is it going to have the benefit of a multi species terminated at put 18 in you know later on and planting green so there's a
lot of different variables a lot of lot of work being done in hestad Colony um try to find an alternative so that means a lot producers vs back into the quotation so kind of the small grain in there to break it up and uh one thing that you
guys have I mean I know there's quite a bit of Daran area as much as it used to be but when you have the silage corn you've got a little bit of opportunity to get the covers out of the Fall compared to the areas don't deal so that way as well nobody
wants to do it's work and always having that consistent purchase or buyer as well yeah absolutely so I mean there's evolving markets because you and I have both attended different uh crops that
you could put in for nitrogen management and it's just yet to Evol to really find yeah a market for it for it I know was one of the things that also don't you think erosion if you could control the erosion sizeable part
to because if it leaves the ground in a heavy run off that's probably it's just as bad most most your nitrogen is going down through but mostly goes through the know theion is more of a phosphorous
issue because ATT but but bacterial movement and those sort of things and that becomes important in this TSM as well because that surface water contribution area right so I mean if you stop and think about it it sounds like a fancy thing but it has nothing to do with a river stream just basically means
you got higher elevations and you're ring down into the lower sand your sharper spots that's where it's sinking down in the ground so um so yeah so I mean yeah to you're part on the erosion part of it or anything you can do to keep the soil on the landscape you're going to be beneficial that way but
really TR such a thing that she she converts she wants to to excape on because good you Wells have any other issues like with coliform or arsic or anything like that um so arsenic hasn't been um it's not as
um we recommend people to test for arsenic but it's not as like consistent around the area not that there won't wouldn't be um s we have Bigger Pockets I think um So within the Wellhead plan
itself this just focuses on manmade contaminants so it doesn't really look at snake and the r nucleid and a lot of those different things that are showing up in water supply Wells because they're naturally urine doesn't mean they shouldn't be there in they're healthy for you or anything like that our snake
is a big issue radio nucleid are a big issue um I don't know off the top of my head for the you know like the percentage but typically a lot of times our SS associated with the glaci shs features so I would think you probably do have
some Pockets I probably have someing just based on the glaciation the top here here you get you know the true cars you think you get in the far Southeast corner where there's no glaciation that's taking place typically it's not an issue there there was nothing
positive so you get you get a mix B you said leeching was the primary problem I I don't know what leeching is what is le oh that's okay so leaching really is that nitr that nitrate moving down that
soil profile and getting into your drinking water supply into your aquifer into your drinking water so it literally moves from you know from the surface the plant doesn't take it all up some extra continues to go down that soil profile
and then ends up into your drinking water supply and is that worse in certain type of soil so it's easier for nitrates to move down different types of soil right so if you have Sandy soils we have the car area the glaci you know the
glacial glacial till um easier for it to transfer right so um if it hits like a clay layer that's a physical barrier that clay has that really fine it's held together it prevents it from getting in
getting into that aquafer so then a lot of times it you know could run off but um or run horizontal but yeah so each probably in pretty good shape here I I understand that we have a good clay bait
I don't know if that's true or not no unfortunately your your soils aren't helping you so in this area and that's why you're having the present now you have a well number three that is a deeper well right that doesn't have 700
feet yeah yeah insane I come from like 30 to 70 and so it blows me away every time s it um but that doesn't have the nitri right that one has again it's a lot deeper well as well um but that Wells down
below a geologic confining unit the other well and guess I'll go to the history yeah the city drilled well back in 1990 somewhere in
the Dr when they drilled that well it's a deeper well and which means it doesn't have the contaminants from the surface there but it means it's older groundwater and so the older that water is the more stuff precipitates out of the of the formation
that it's in so it's really high in iron and so when the city drilled that well from my understanding and they tried to sell it to the citizens I think there was a Revolt to away and it's not that there it's not a reason a health based
reason for it just basically taking soft water that had some surface contaminants in it changing it for something that didn't have the the contaminants in it but it was hard to get P so you guys blend different Wells
together we only have been offline since 2009 yeah so the city operates after one primary well um and then well number is their emergency backup well but it hasn't been in fun
um working out of you said 2009 yeah they haven't used it Us distribution since 2009 2009 um not that um that's something that we could look at in the plan to identify as a measure or as a
strategy to build resiliency because um you know having the opportunity to blend um gives you a little bit of that room you could work on getting it so that it doesn't have you know blending it so the iron is a little bit more manageable but it also reduces your nit traits as well
you know to prevent having to um treat if that hopefully and it doesn't continue to rise but if that were to ever rise above the drinking water standard so that is um you know that is an option to continue to investigate and
to consider the put it's a part two plan I the reason I suggest for that part two plan is again it gives you access to grant funding so like if you needed to hire an engineer toolable plan we could apply for funding for that again they're small grants but every drop in the
bucket helps and we Saed on last year yes yeah I have one community in um the central area that over the multiple years that they were applying for has got $95,000 on implementation funds and an
additional I think it was $992,000 in competitive funding so that adds up that's almost $200,000 with the grant funds so yeah we were just talking earlier with the price of and hydras versus
other products now whether the pressure may be going back that way so I mean something that could be include in the plan is just general best management practices but if you wanted to do split application there could be some funding there forit for to make it more cost
yeah so that it makes sense in your in their numbers as well because it's hard to when it's hard to speak when we're asking them to spend additional funds to go a different route and maybe even open them up to additional risk on timing um
so that's things that we could consider putting into our plan so that we can support um some of those decisions those tougher decisions to make and those mitigate for some of that risk well I think lot of producers are starting to
incorporate second side dring just to lower the risk of the nitri and as far as like the age daing on on this we're talking about the 10 time of travel when we look at these walls in in the water results and determ
to be pable they look at a hydrogen isotal trium so it's basically left over from hbomb and nuclear testing in the 50s so if you have the trium Pres you're drinking water basically means your recharge has occurred since that date
and so I can't remember what level it was at here uh your your wells are definitely vulnerable you do have that that's there um it's getting more difficult to do because we're getting the half life on that is 12 years so as
it gets out and out further so it's a good problem to have hopefully we don't go the other place somay and have a whole new fles so yeah when when you hear about you know some of that stuff because water is really difficult to gauge down to a specific number uh there's not really
anything organic in it you know to break down and do the carbon desk testing or anything like that so uh look at it that way MDA has done some stuff looking at U some dating using the active ingredient last alar um so they know when that went
out of service so that showing up in certain Wells you know that you know by that day the chares uring as well that that is a great thing to be going you know judging something the dates on but there are different ways that you can kind of pinpoint some of the time he meant to say Alor was a herbicide that
come off so he knows when that her de side started being made lasso I believe wasand name it's been off the market quite a few years now so so it's still showing up you can over that and standard that
standard testing so once your plan your next plan is approved um typically between your six and eight usually year eight Department of Health will send Jason um samples to take um sample bottles to take and we'll take all that
to analyze it all over again because things change there a few things up here um but that so the trium might be a different sample but um there'll be some form ageing for the next as
well any other questions for us excellent well I hope to see a bunch of you again in the future and um also thank you for sending Jason to the Minnesota Rural Water conference next week because Jason's going to be
speaking about implementation efforts to all of our other attendees um so greatly appreciate the support thank you thank you and with that I'm going to travel because I have about two and a half hours home
so thank you you want these back thanks Scott than see you back in you guys don't want to talk to the township about anything else yet while we're here you got questions you to reach out they'll have answers oh no thanks it was really informative I appreciate you guys
for us have a good night guys I just wanted to let everybody know yeah we definitely do have money for cover crops especially now that there'll be hundreds more Acres added to the dma and also well ceiling so if anybody abandoned well abandoned well and anywhere in the
county that's not even just the dzma so anywhere in the county especially well seing can it's an easy thing matching Grant you cover 100% uh not 100% we have it's there's money available kind of depends on yeah depends well thank
you all right guys it's 6:43 we'll call a regular meeting to order and we please stand for thege I'd like to take a moment to I'd like to see us take a moment of Silent prayer okay we lost we had a tragic
accident lost the A and po so if we could I would like to just take a moment and think about him for a moment amen thank you PL to the flag of the United States
of America to the repblic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible andice all we'll begin with our uh variance request um but first just do a sorry
we'll start left Chris Lisa Jason man we'll start with the variance requestbody okay Council can you hear me okay y y I'm happy to talk for two three four
minutes and kind of get this warmed up and kicked off uh if that's okay mayor thank you m great yeah so mayor council you have VAR requests in front of you uh as you know for u a couple of apartment
uh units on the ground floor as I understand it in some uh buildings that are zoned for commercial use um I've had Communications with the applicant who I think is in the room uh and I know Lisa has as well uh and I
also know that I talked to you a little bit about um the following let me just spel this out for you uh it's a fair question and I think the applicant here has asked the question of me you know Lisa why is a variance needed here these apartments have been in place for a long
time and that's true that's right I I don't think the city or the staff or I disagree with that um they have been in place for a long time as I explained to you though I think previously a a use that doesn't comply with your code as
this doesn't apartments on the ground floor commercial buildings in your downtown area are not allowed um the fact that they've been there for a long time doesn't mean that they're grandfather and the fact that they've been there for a long time and the city may have issued or the county
may have issued permits that doesn't make them grandfathered either uh and so what makes uh use's grandfathered is if when they started they were legal if the city allowed the the city's code the city's laws allowed them um and as I understand it
when these apartments were built they weren't allowed they were not uh uh permissible under the zoning code and uh although it's true that the city issued some permits or the county they have issued the permits um that's not the same as approving the use and saying
that it can be done even though our only code said it can't be done so that's the reason that a variance is required and then I would say that's all sort of negative toward the application I suppose the reason why the application is here let me say on the positive side I think the applicant here has been a
nice job and Mr I'm sorry I'm not saying your name because I don't know how to say it is it gravan or graan gravan gravan okay so I apolog so uh he's done a nice job I think in his application of saying why um is request
for a variance to allow these apartments to continue why why that meets your variance criteria and of course you have copies of your relatively speaking new uh code your new zoning code on uh
everything but including variances and and that spells out the criteria and so he's done a nice job of addressing your criteria for granting a variance now whether or not each of those criteria are met is entirely up to you that's not
a judgment for me to make or for Leisa to make or for the staff to make ultimately you have to make that judgment but I would just say that he he has addressed in his application the criteria for a variance and then just last thing I'll be quiet um I think this
is important for a city like good hu that's that's growing and hopes to continue to grow into the future um clearly the city can't allow uh non compliances with how you see your city developing right that's what your zoning code does is it says how you see your
city developing but you can grant variances and ultimately that's why the council gets paid big bucks um that's why you make the hard decisions and so this is an example of that and certainly the fact that this use these apartments have been there for a long time is
something that's completely relevant and something that you as as council members can can consider so I'll stop there and have answer questions thank you Bob uh so do we have some members wishing to
speak then can I clarify two different yeah they're presently apartments or is it adding another apartment they're presently Apartments he not adding nothing they've been apartment since
1993 talk when we looked at the addresses so 1 million is 215 then it's office where I run my company out of the front of the building the back of the building that doesn't have any access to the street is one
apartment and then the building next to the Corner Bar which is terrible to say it's always ex to Corner Bar um is the 203 building and that is the entire floor on the lower level has been um an apartment so our question
though was the 250 you're office space I mean I got the impression that's what you want to turn into a part negative okay nope nothing changes everything stays exactly the same what's the street I mean it's the same street address though yeah I mean 25 North 2 Street
Apartment one two and three nothing changes they they've been apartments for since 1993 were confused because the address the address shows your office there's an existing par apartment in the back right
and there's two apartments on top yep so you're saying you're you're just getting that my understanding is those would be in compliance when the one in the back not not for theode not on the one on the back we we could differ on that but
technically it's not because it's on the first floor but since say I I remember I weared the building and there was no you know the council at that time they knew they were going to be apartments
and that's what they built they built an apartment they built an apartment in the back and an office in the front where he has his office and it sounds like he's going to keep that as his office he just wants to be able to keep the apartment
in the back he wants the two Apartment B existing he just wants to keep the existing apartments that have been there for years so there's no addition there's no adding a new apartment all he's searching for is
a basically a um excuse me a variance to bring his apartment in the rear into compliance because that's considered to be on the first floor but also bringing the ones by the bar in into variant yeah to bring
them into compliance as well we suppos to we yeah you have you stand up B please I'm going to say my same feel because this is how we feel about so we are a growing Vibrant Community and you
know our businesses are growing and um um but when a community chooses to give in a first floor residential business it's really jeopardizing that opportunity um it changes that Dynamic of a town and um it's like you express
shooting yourself in the foot you just don't have opportunity to go after that um so I'm suggested that you strongly consider this when making decision now hearing more information um we don't have a problem that one in the back that isn't part of to us the business
district that's in the alley but it's that one on the business Street next to the corner bar that we kind of struggle with you know it it just really changes the the the business district of the
town so that's all I have to say thank you why you stand up there it's not that scary um well I guess I don't I don't disagree with them
at all because I feel like if you if you give in one you got to been to a bunch more where it kind of stopped so um See's always had it for years and like Jo said there wasn't a council make
that I leg time so um I just going forward I don't think I think that b get you to have apartmentss in the lower level because like you said you know we don't want to represent a town full of Apartments it's
the community should be full shops and stores yeah that's all I got well in my it's it's been this way for all those years so it hasn't changed the effect the Dynamics of the town and
we're not looking to add more downtown per we're just looking to get him approved legally so it's continue on with his business but so SAR comment I
think I mean the same with the the apartments downtown when we bought the bill Bank building I don't think we even closed yet in the mayor at the time approached said well you can't do apartments in the first floor I never said we were going to we didn't you know
that wasn't the intent he also had the City attorney contact us and say you can't do apartment on the first floor I said well half a block away there's apartments on the first floor so my point there was that I don't know if you do a variance but if you're going to
change it it should be part of the um I think legally you got to do the variance now you change your ordinance you shouldn't do a peace meal and I certainly wouldn't Advocate at all for putting more Apartments down down on the the first floor of towns um it's kind of
the beginning of the end of your town or it's throwing the you know throw the the towel and downtown that's all you can all you can do so I mean I was just perplexed by so basically what I was told was those apartments went in as a favor from
the mayor at the time and that irritated me at the time they would say well you don't get that favor and they s the City attorney on us I shouldn't say sick but that's what he called for any the point um so I don't that's
pretty poor way to run run a town that's history that was going on 30 years ago now those went in so I mean it's not a a new issue um but the other point I want to make is I don't want to create another you know potential noise issue
with town we live downtown we live upstairs um hopefully you uh I'm hopeful we can resolve any noise issues without going to council but obviously we put more people downtown you're creating more of a potential problem obviously
it's up to the council if you want to do a VAR um but I don't like it doing peace meal some get it some don't you know based on who you know thank you so the the current people that live in those apartments they're
full right of course and how long have they lived there the individual that's living in behind the 215 building she's been there since 2003 um and the individual that's living in the 203 building on the first floor he
what they were husband and wife living in a one bedroom and they wanted a bigger unit when two gentlemen who were working at fapco moved to buy a house um they wanted that bigger un but the previous tenant who lived in 203 lived there since 1993
to three years ago so one tenant for almost the entire time apartment and they're all full they're 100% full and and honestly the goal um is overall goal
what I do for a living is naturally occurring affordable housing keeping units at an affordable rate but also preserving just because something's old doesn't mean it can't be a good affordable place to live and it doesn't need to be so expensive that somebody can't afford it and and just by keeping
something nice and habitable um is the goal that's what my father-in-law always did with the units and when he came ill that's when I kind of stepped in and took over and then we bought here recently but uh no our goal is just to keep the same and and with like noise
issues or parking issues we should always talk and figure out I've got lots of ideas on how to help with the parking because I I've got Apartments 560 units all over the place and we do parking things all the time for yeah Downtown
parking sometimes it's difficult and some days it's not have we had any problems in the last 10 15 years from these first floor Apartments I personally cannot think of any time that
we've had any problems you like to please any other I guess I guess my biggest thing is is it's been this way for 15 10 15 20 years 1993 yeah and nothing's changed
um I mean how many people knew that there was Apartments there you know if they've known that they've been apartments for the last 10 15 20 years why didn't why didn't anybody say anything you know I mean I'm new to good you I mean I've only lived
here 10 years but I had no idea I guess my my concern was I thought they were looking to put more no no these are these are I'm on the fire department they have the big fire there we were help Department clear everybody out I don't think there was a working fire
alarm so that's a concern too absolutely and I actually am putting sprinkler systems in one of my buildings just because of that and I think about how a lot of this came about was like you said you just recently purchased this stuff and he's trying to go about it the right way
and the they found the ordinance violation What within the last few months wasn't it the ordinance um the zoning ordinance yeah although it's new that that phrasing was
in there originally that it was it was newly adopted right but this is what I'm saying is this is newly found that they figured all this out I think or times 30 years ago the residents of good you assume that they followed the process
when they put those Park in they did not yeah and I I would says all wounds which maybe is what could take it out right but I mean it's an ugly precedent that they hammered everybody else for which seems
ridiculous right one thing I would like to say and I don't know if my comments even regard just to this particularly I'm the police so I don't think my comments regard to this
specific situ ation in general I think um you know there's been M comments over you know it's been this way for 10 years talk about 30 years um one thing I really think the council should think about is or at least show I haven't seen what that criteria is and then kind of
how those decisions are made just better in general um I know people at the corner bar or the owners there had talked about stuff one time switching it to units and they were told the same thing it's got to be a business front it's got to stay that way think my parents tried buying your guys's house
at one point um in the residential area and they were told no um so I think my biggest thing that I would really like to see out of the city is just consistency um or at least you know this is what we want to see or why we're
doing that I don't know that I'm necessarily against or for what you want to do either way you know what I mean um it's more all kind of consistency I guess for me from from the city just because I've kind of seem it go both ways a couple times so just that's probably my biggest
thing I think one of the things that we keep hearing about you know is the the consistency of keeping it um where we don't want main level Apartments I think the biggest thing here is
is we've had we have families that are in there for a long time um he's under understanding that there is no more building and make an apartment to you know anything you know like where his
office is um but we're not the same Council anymore um you know we have we have we have a different group of people now that understand that statement really well um of keeping things now um
not running on a different system you know of who you are anymore you know it's we're going to follow what we think is best for the city and the bylaws for it and um I
think we have a good group of people now that want to make that difference um but I think it's my main concern my one of my biggest concerns was the families that are there now you know um asking them to
to relocate you know because of of of something that wasn't followed 30 years ago you know I think is something that we have to consider um but I mean everyone's voice is value you know and
and heard so I appreciate it can I ask how long a variance is good for if the variance is accepted and agreed to it gets recorded with the property so irre L of however many years he owns it and sells it it doesn't
matter it's not the owner it stays with the property so it's yes the only way it get changed is if if if it's not on it would be uh not disapproved but it would be revoked
and then it would be however the county calls it taken off unrecorded it would be it would be removed off the property so doing this is going to benefit so in 30 years
Council owner have to go through this again because it will be recorded on the property in regardless owns it so he'll if if he decides to sell it for a apartment complex that's what it's going to be it will stay with the property
correct is is there any way to put a stipulation that we are only allowing the one apartment in the back and so that at a future date someone doesn't look at this and say oh we can put one in the front absolutely U Bob can correct me but you
can you can approve the variance with conditions okay and then another question that I have is let's say at some point um either Mr gravan or someone else at some point takes out that that rear apartment and or buys the
building the Corner Bar and takes away those apartments um does that make that variance no void at that point or is there still a variance on that building so at a later date someone else could put one back in could you put that as a
condition that if removed must stay removed yeah mayor you know I mean all really good comments from the public and good questions from the council um let's suppose for a second that the council is
inclined not to want to kick people out of these departments not to deny the variances and say you can't have apartments on the first floor if that's true then we're talking about what conditions to put on the apartments and I think that's what your question
council member just now was about um and let me just tell you the range of conditions that I think you could impose the most restrictive condition I think you could impose would be and I think it would be defensible would be to say uh
we're granting a variance for for the current tenants and as soon as the current tenants die or leave or uh assign the lease to somebody else the variance goes away that would be the very most restrictive that would mean as
soon as a tenant as soon as an apartment is vacant it can no longer be marketed as a as a as an apartment it would have to be converted to commercial use that would be the very most restrictive um less restrictive than that and Lisa has suggested this in her
report would be to say you can't add Apartments you can't turn the office in the front into an apartment and uh if you're going to make any changes you have to get a building permit this is in Lisa's recommended uh
conditions I would add a further one if you wanted to be restrictive you could say we're not going to Grant any building permits for improvements for apartment purposes right in other words if you're going to make changes to the building or the inside of the building
you need to bring the use into conformance so if you're going to build new walls you're going to change things around inside then bring the building into conformance with what's required we're not going to Grant the building permit to improve an existing apartment
further uh so that's sort of to me the range of conditions that you could have I don't know where the council I I get the sense that the council doesn't want to deny a variance and require people leave because this can't be an apartment anymore if that's right then I I think you need to just talk about the range of
of conditions that you want to impose on that and I've sort of spelled out I think the most restrictive to the least restrictive so you wouldn't allow a uh trickler system to be installed uh uh well I didn't say that I just offered up some suggestions for the
council um and I don't get to vote on this so it's not really up to me but so would I think is what he means by improvements is if you were to take first floor
215 and completely gut that whole entire apartment that would be like reconfiguring the apartment whereas like a safety standpoint if you said hey I'm going to rip out this tub and put in an ADA Compliant tub that's well that's
protected under that's protected under build right but what I'm saying is like putting in a fire suppression system sprinkler that's a safety thing like I I wouldn't say that that's against the rules but if you were to completely wipe out that first floor on
215 and say I'm going to now make this two because this one is already good that would be where you know you have to stay within the code um because I know that in the ordinances it talks about if you
change something then you have to make it to where it's still falls into the code but um yeah I mean I like what Bob said when you know as long as somebody lives there and as long as it's an apartment now it will always be an apartment you can't change it to two
apartments you can't you know if later on down the road you decide hey I want to make my business bigger and you remove that apartment then you can't add it later kind of deal yeah here council member that was what I was trying to pass along you got it
exactly and all just say Council I don't think anybody sitting here is worried that or wants anybody to get count kicked out right now it's just more what is the longterm goal of the community in downtown and I I don't have that answer but that I think is the question I don't
think it's about these individuals right now I don't think anybody wants to just immediately this one mights I just don't want these guys to turn their place into apartments and and then we decide to turn ours into apartments and you know what I mean
where and and I think I think moving forward is you know with I mean the ordinance has always been there it somehow got overlooked whatever 30 years ago it is what it is you know moving forward we don't want first floor Apartments you know we don't that was
never the thing it's just these happen you know and now that people are living in them the last thing we want to do is display somebody that has you know called that apartment their home for 20 30 years you know so
I I can say I you know I only speak for myself but moving forward I I don't want first floor Apartments you know there's three of them and it's I think three 215 and 203 two two okay two I thought 203 had
two on the bottom but there's two on top okay so I mean that's me moving forward is I don't want to see it but you know in the last 20 years we've never had a problem with the way they've been how many people have actually known that they were there I
didn't no I I misspoke I thought there was there's one on 215 and one at 203 for some reason I thought there 's two on the first floor one upstairs but it's vice versa right yes yeah there's two total of three units per building yeah
so I miss us to be there the CL there's nothing I don't believe there's anything in there y sh a cra
I've always called that mustard building not to create any more first floor Apartments our goal is just to get it settled with the variant so he can continue on his business that he bought
with the understanding that these apartments were legal so our our goal I think as a council is to just let you know provide this variance this one time
and there as far as I'm concerned there will never be any more and there will be stated in the variant there'll be no more ground floor uh Apartments y you know we try to
keep for small businesses or whatever that could come in uh unless you would say like you know you might get a and this is a really farfetch but behind Larry Larson if they
sold that lot there and put in a big housing thing like you know they had that in zro they they put in a big housing I mean that would be a totally different thing it be under totally but I mean all these house places that we
have buildings that are here existing you know then we're not going to let them just turn them into Apartments this is just a variance so he can continue continue on with his business I spent six months trying to get somebody to go in the office and I
just ended up going in there myself nobody wanted to run an office space I had music people come in and do a lot of music lessons for rent um I had is that because what you had to charge for ma or just cost well yeah just like $3 $400 a
month You' got to do a lot of music lessons to pay that kind of a a rent I I had lawyers that maybe wanted to come in or accountants and I how many insurance companies can we have on the same street because they don't draw any they don't draw any people in um I had one person
that wanted a retail space for shipping containers which that obviously wasn't going to work think we want in the alley yeah I no I I wanted to have somebody there absolutely and I still do I'm going to
use it for my my business big signs going up next week so so if nobody else has anything to say or state about it I think we should take a vote on
it um let's just yeah no I was just going to say we need to make sure that this is the proper process for variance yeah so mayor and Council all I was going to say was that um this is more words than I need to say but I'll I'll
so I'll try and be short about it but so when we have um zoning related requests like a variance or conditional use permit or resoning or whatever in the event the council is going to deny that if that ever were to happen we actually legally have to do that in writing which
means we have to adopt a resolution about it we have to put in writing why we're denying it and so the best practice for cities is even if you're going to Grant it and it sounds like there's going to be a motion maybe at some point to Grant the variance with conditions if that's true
then we should put that in writing too we should put that in the form of a resolution so the best practice here it's not legally required but the best practice here would be to direct staff to come back at your work meeting with a resolution that approves it sounds like
I'll leave it to you all to make the motion but maybe one motion would be approving with the conditions that have been talked about here so that you can see them written down before you vote on it uh and then you can make an exception and go ahead and vote on that at your work session your work meeting in a
couple weeks you guys considering adding conditions to that variance yes personally yes and that would be they can't make any changes to what is currently there would be my
recommendation so what is there is you can't change a one one-bedroom to a two-bedroom you know what is currently there right now is what'll stay with the exception of any safety um things that need to go in like
the you know sprinkler system or you know being in compliance with Ada or whatever that may be but you can't change the floor mat of what's already there does that make sense it does it just all a sudden we're about to take a
vote and app it well and that's where we come in with they're going to discuss it at the work session y so yeah and that's when we make the vote we say we vote yay on this with these
conditions so and we'll have uh Bob will assist in getting the resolution made because we need to make sure that it's done properly and then they will have a chance to look at it at that meeting and do a y or
and if they don't if they have more things they want to add or if they want to take out then they can do that they'll discuss it at that meeting so that would be the conclusion anybody else got anything yeah if there is anything
else thank you all thank you you just say this closes well I have a question so B are we then are we amending then this variance or we just making a motion for a resolution mayor council um I I would
first of all I I was typing down some notes there I didn't hear did you you should first close the hearing I think you probably have done that or you'll do that but I the motion here tonight I think would be to direct staff to prepare a resolution granting the variance with conditions and then I
would just say as discussed and then it's up to Lisa and I to come up with the conditions that we heard you talk about obviously we may not have it exactly right but your next meeting your work session you'll look at the conditions that we've laid out and if you guys don't agree with them you can change them but we'll have a resolution
in front of you that grants the variance with conditions and if you don't like the conditions or you want to change them you can do it at the meeting we'll write it down and fix it and you can approve it at the next meeting so the motion tonight would be close the hearing and then direct staff to prepare a resolution per the conversation
tonight okay I'll make a motion to close the he a second sorry all in favor opposed um motion approve you y thank
you okay so we'll have that we'll have that ready for the work session all right perfect thank you so uh request uh approved minutes from the February 12 2025 City Works session
meeting oh wait did you do the agenda yeah oh agenda yes can we get a sorry a motion to approve the direct staff resolution for variance no approve or amend approve or amend the
agenda oh okay I'm sorry can I motion to approve the agenda for tonight yes I'll make the motion to approve the agenda and I'll second that all in favor I
opposed motion approved okay all right uh request approved minutes from February 12th 2025 City work session meeting we'll make a motion to approve the February 12th uh work meeting
minutes all in favor oppos motion approved okay uh consent agenda approval what was suggested in the past and recommended is just reading the items that are on the
consent agenda so anybody that is watching will know what's on the consent agenda and then after you've read what all that is in it then you ask for a motion to approve it in its entirety
okay you just start off with the so yeah can we get a motion for accepting the general release of liability agreement with the school it's a all thing well yeah read all of them and then it's one motion to accept thank you y um approve
the cash control financial report for 2024 adopt resolution 253 approving good Vester rail writers LG 220 rap permit approve resolution
254 adopting the Minnesota City State records retention schedule approv School request for road closer for a day April 12th 2025 Now call motion can we get a
motion I'll make that motion I'll second all in favor I opposed motion approved um old business we motion that there is no no
no old business uh new business5 what's that no I it was the 255 request to adopt resolution 255 approving raffle application from the JC's for May 5th 2025 location at
Heritage Park um ad do council member representing City for the new Fire Truck Association you do one at a time oh okay sorry that's okay they they came with the request for the application for May 5th
at for um Heritage Park it's a standard you have the information it's a standard um uh form to uh have the raffle at that time what was that raffle again yeah what are they raffling up well I think this is the one where didn't they they
used to they used to do a um I can't ATV but nobody wanted it and so now it's cash no no that was the rail Riders okay um this one um well there's no representative from the JC's here so have no idea what this is I can't
remember Lori took the yeah she took the um [Applause] application it's for the um it's for the is it for V Fest no it's for the wrestling something
with she doesn't have are we allowed to phone a friend I guess I'm serious no I don't I I it's just funny to hear that we l to phone let's see if they posted something [Applause]
well he's got his number on there for Max right maxv mhm it's for the baseball team sorry it took me that long to go to Florida that's what it's uh so okay sorry about
that I guess I have a question about this so do we typically request [Music] um like a JC's member to be present to to discuss this or is it typically um I guess justes the clerk
and you as the administrator typically like not suggested um to be present well I think that ones that we've had up until this point have been things that have happened in the past okay now this particular one I I I wasn't there the day that they I was on
vacation when it came in and um L put it on um the new business okay so I don't have a lot of information personally on that okay um I guess personally just because I have besides it's for baseball and the
JCS are doing it I don't feel like I have enough information to make a vote on it that's just me so what I do know is that that
um the goodu baseball team was invited down to Florida for spring training okay and they needed they were doing fundraising for it um and I'm assuming that they reached out to the JC's to
help fund some of this and the JC's are doing a raffle to help offset the cost for these baseball players to go down for spring training that's what I gather out of one of my friends that Suns plays baseball um because it's quite expensive it was a few thousand dollars per person
then they did go to they came to the Lions requested some too and the Lions did give them some yeah so now that they brought up the baseball now at all rings I when he came in I just don't know what they're what
are they raffling yeah I have no idea what they're raffling um it's it's happening May 5th yeah it said May 5th at Heritage Park and I'm just curious we have time to just ask them if
they would like to send somebody to explain what they're doing agreed yeah have them come down for the the work meeting and say what are you raffling I would just like to get more information before I make an uneducated vote I think on any of those type of deals there
should be a representative here Agreed 100% that stage this is what we're doing and so we have a background story to it and why we're and no confusion y I think that's help when uh Lorie's out sick today so when she comes back I
will let her know that anytime from this point on that she indicate to them when they ask to be on the agenda that they need to be here yeah it's just good I think that they come and present it I mean if they they think it's important
enough they want to do it they should be happy to come in I agree with 100 so that will be on uh move to the work session yes and then um maybe if they're not able to be here
maybe they could type up something or or some kind something to explain it y yeah y okay yeah so we'll move past that one um appoint council member representing City for the uh fire trk
Association joint Powers committee have a little bit to say about that um Michael and I were there and you know it's it's always been you just went to the meeting they talked about what they spent they kind of hit us pretty hard
you know they in my opinion they have the feeling that the city of good is not contributing enough I don't know if that's what you got out of that but uh they're they're forming a committee to study you know and I wish I would have
had you know I've been to them meetings before and I never needed any paperwork I wish I would have had your slip stating what they we donate because mean they asked the fire chief and he he he come up with how much did they donate
well like 16,000 I knew that was way off you know I mean it we quite a bit of money and there's years when they don't buy equipment that we spend a lot of money I think they forget about that and we need somebody for that committee this
committee here and I kind of like maybe if you would like to do that I'd like to see you do that yeah I was actually I was gonna I was GNA ask about that and ask if I could be on that committee um the meeting is tomorrow just so you
know okay do you have an idea on time it's 5:30 at the fire hall okay I can do that because they were very wanting you should get some paperwork from her 100% agree yep yep because she can give you all the what we paid and spent and they
had that information at that meeting yeah but didn't come up with it I was asked for that and I provided it and that was not the number that was on that report because they asked you know and they kind of stuttered around well 16,000 here and well they didn't
know about this and that so did we buy them all brand new tools for the brand new fire Tru 40,000 at one time but I mean yeah I mean it just we need to have somebody in the committee to represent the city in a
good way and uh not to get in any arguments or anything but to just sensibly talk about what's right and what's wrong yeah I mean so yeah I wouldn't nominate Michael if he's willing to take the
spot I I wouldn't mind going by tell you I my back just been so bad I've been so miserable lately that I just yeah so Joe motion I'll second that all in
favor motion carry we had a very nice dinner I'll say that far okay so um request for uh family session pass donation to good you all night graduation drawing um I did have a question about
that I know that they've done that in the past my question is though why don't we try to rotate that with other businesses instead of just the goody pool all the time for the family p
why can we do something else for other businesses I guess I guess the reason is we own the pool yeah um so we technically don't have to spend any money to do so um I I understand you're saying you're trying to to kind
of share the wealth is that is if if that's a lack of a better term um but [Music] it we would have to be spending then taxpayer dollars to do so whereas we can contribute something that would
be essentially but not essentially free for us so if we donate you know pool P we don't have to go purchase anything it's it's something that we can do without spending money because we own the pool and operate the pool as a city entity and then we end up making money
because we sell the kids the food whatever um were you saying why isn't other people Don no but I I so now said that so I what I understand is that if any other businesses are going to want to donate themselves anyways they're going to donate instead of us asking
yeah a business hey can you donate $200 of your product yeah so what they do is um I mind the committee to now so yeah gone around and asked a lot of businesses AR he yeah and you're not us doing it no not us my person yeah they asked us to contribute it we're not
going around to ask so like Jason said Jason's on the committee this year because he has a son that's graduating next year so everybody that's on the committee are all the junior parents yeah so we were on it last year okay so we'll be on it again next year so what
they do is everybody on this committee they designate people for um different parts so like Jason might be in charge of going out to every business there's hundreds of businesses throughout this
area they say hey would you donate um some hoodies from emm would you donate a uh electrical grid Thing by bendo would you you know it's so many people donate to this and it's just it's amazing and this
is just something that um we've been doing as a city for years that we just we donate a family pass and we choose to do a family pass because you know if it's one person wins it and it's only their child it's still going to cover
them under the family and you know if it's somebody like my family that wins it then and it doesn't take money out of and it's and it's still a value value person appreciate thanks Michael expanation
so I'll make a motion to um donate the good you swimming pool Family Pool Pass to the good you all night graduation party I'll second that motion all in favor I post and we should still have that certificate don't we
Jason okay she had it not okay right okay excuse me um adopt resolution 2506 approving support for a North zumro sanitary sewer district Regional
wastewater treatment facility uh go bonding Bill request this is uh we have to do it to continue on because it's been going on for quite some time we have to redo another resolution to
continue going on I just spent the day today at the capital we met with about six Senate leaders and it's still it's still going it's just we're waiting for
them to get this bonding Bill and trying to find a way to get uh funding it looking positive you know I'm not going to lie it didn't start off good with the first lady but the remaining six people we talked to they're all in support of
it and and we were trying to find ways to get it to work because when you go up and ask them for you know the amount of 40 million they say that's a lot but they're not taking into consideration that there's four
communities that are together plus Prairie Island for run so we're trying to work with our um uh wine scene are they actually are they winter up in Winter up in now are they actually Law
Firm or they're lobbyist they lobbyist we've been working with the lobbyist and trying to get them to understand the importance of this and um because we we are tapped our our facility and Pine
Island is also and that's where El run is and so that's why it's important um for them to realize that that is a secondary location for Treasure Island is and if they want Prairie Island Prairie Island if they want to move
there and do anything they're relying on this passing also in Prairie island has a lobbyist too don't they yep yep uh and Blake's been very yeah May C the tribe the tribe has on staff uh lobbyist
uh and then I would just say winre is a law firm but got lobbyist on staff and they're an absolutely fantastic Law Firm so you're you're really well represented at legislature um by that firm and uh I would just say representing at least one other
community in the group um hopes are always high but hopes are always high when anybody goes to the legislature I think you'll have to see how it how it goes for sure so B we uh is there anything else that we should be doing as
group here I mean that we can do to help this or we're doing everything we can contactor senators contact yeah I mean contact your I think it's always useful and I think these four communities have a very good story to tell but it's always useful to make clear to both
sides of the aisle that you're a fiscally responsible Community that's not looking to waste money I mean that's that everyone cares about this is a big this is a big ass right this big lift and I don't think any of the community is benefited by this proposed project they're looking to burn dollar bills on
the bridge so um I think just talking to your legislators your own you know legislators locally um and letting them know that that's the story you'll always tell is is helpful to them I want to just add just a quick thing we we did I've been on the committee now for three
years since I've been here and we even have broke down the cost to do it alone each City substantially more than going together we just recently did that and that up there that was very very helpful and that was very very we worked with our Engineers now they they broke it
down and they said this is what it would save by not going separate it was a million dollars a year y for savings by going together that one sheet today was very helpful because they were all it
was new to them it hadn't been broken down like that that was probably the biggest help and it was that's why I I got a Bob's right the last or law fir that working at it has been very good and he was with us all day today with us
at the meetings so this is an important I think fantastic on you guys' part getting that part you know getting that done that's it's going to be a big plus if we can get this done I know the Consultants did a lot of it but you know
it was it the other City Consultants but that that was a big big help to get them to understand it's going to cost a lot more to go four separate fa and quite honestly they they've seen you know CU Terry was going up there before and Terry's done a lot to and they've seen
the numbers but that one sheet today it made them look double it was it was to see that happening and I'm still learning because nothing's been going on since I got here so there really is not much for me to be up up to speed on but watching that today was something that
stuck out well that's what I was concerned about that we're kind of still made it but I think we were that way because the last bonding Bill didn't go through so it's kind of just been in Hiatus a little bit pretty much Chris is right the last year we got our funding
to two years ago to do the design pre-design and purchase the land and that was 2023 2024 we didn't have a bonding bill it was stalled Lisa is right she just kind of came on to this late fall the it was really a stal mate the
only progress we've made I mean correct me if I'm wrong Lisa was the last few months with kind of rewriting and pointing out the cost of going alone versus what it is together operational fees the operational fees were like a million dollars a year or two I I I don't have the numbers right
here but any you councils want to know you can set that I have all that plus the website the website you can direct anybody to that the informational website that they just can you email me that I think it was in the
most recent email from you today or yesterday I think is the it was the day that it was announced I pushed it out I'll get it I'll get it that's all I have for that there was something I was going to
say back but this.com it needs to be motioned and accepted uh for us to continue further there really is nothing that we can discuss or change about it the
resolution I'll make a motion to adopt resolution 25-06 uh support a North Z sanitation sanitary sewer district second all in favor I I
oppos motion adopted you need it voted uh oh yeah I I have I'll get that for um laor okay
so counil comments I have one and it's more I'm not really sure I heard it through the grap Vine that this weekend is a pheasants
forever banquet at the Lions building have you guys heard anything about that I I think I remember something about having them getting a a permit for gambling or something at one time I thought that was a couple
months ago so what I'm seeing is I thought the Pheasant F was in Z BR at the VFW no so what I'm seeing here is pheasants fever banquet invitation goodu County pheasants forever 41st annual banquet good you Lions Community Center
Saturday March 1st um they have Platinum sponsors gold sponsors silver sponsors and there is hold on there's a raffle and this is where it gets crazy is the
raffle is for guns and cash and a truck so I don't remember seeing anything come across the table as far as them doing a raffle with guns and cash they always have every everyone they've
ever had they have right I understand that and usually pheasants forever is held out held out at Treasure Island for the pheasants forever but this year talking to guy from Four Seasons um Travis Travis said that it's not out
there this year it's in good you and that's how I found out about it but it's a raffle and I don't know if they I think they can look it up I I I believe I remember they serving for dece I thought it I think it's December I'm
looking in to Chris it talk about that forever found it 1211 cousins forever seek permission to sell raffle tickets as on March 1st it was done okay all right 17th of
December um mayor comments so I have a comment of I think what I really appreciate from you guys is how well we handle um feedback from the community I tonight
you know was um and and I think it's important for us to understand and and to show the community that we want to be able to do things the right way um and I know it's
it's we hear a lot of um e even outside of these walls from people you know well if that was allowed then you know you know if they did it why you know and I think it's I think we did a good job tonight of
reiterating that this is a onetime thing you know that we want to get moved past um and then continue to do things the way that they need to be done um so I just want to show my appreciation um to
all of you um I think we we're on the right path of I think we good group of people like I said nothing's changed it's was already there we're just a new owner kind of yeah and and not to take
away from what what the past council member and and uh mayor have done you know starting this path of uh doing things the right way you know I can't express that enough you
know I think they've done a good job so that's it you just have to do everything by the boook can't nothing wrong with that can't be doing anything that you know that's why we have a lawyer y
y all right so uh motion to pay the bill I got one more thing if I can ask so I just this is a question for the council uh working with the dsma Wellhead protection plan and good County water
department and their soy Health grant that we're involved with between M rer us and them they're having a lunch in and I know I reached out to the mayor he's unavailable on March 18th it'd be nice if I could get one council member to attend it is that egg Partners or I'm
just looking if I could get one to go it's at 11 o00 when is March 18th a Tuesday Tuesday what time I know you expressed interest ear and so I problem like I just need to know so I need to let them know you said it was a lunch
it's a lunch from 11: to they like one city representative along with myself or staff Michael it is UN unless you want to go I mean it it I can go I
mean if it I don't know how your job affects your job during the middle of the day but I can take whatever I that's a good job to have what about your job that's all I have so you want
Michael to go Michael wants to go then go you can't yeah we don't know where your back's going to be at that time maybe Miche will be a good pick anything else oh I I no I I let you
guys know it at the time yeah tor's coming back oh yes she is coming back we're going to be meeting with her to she's checking with the um he he was saying about the like the manager the pool manager is coming back she's going
to get a a count of who will be returning for and then her Jason and I will be meeting again um when she gets that number and we'll start the race is going with getting pool ready thank you what what age do they
require for lifeguards 16 that was actually that was it was 15 yeah 15 for LIF guards it's it's 16 for 16 for the all right so we have a motion for
paying the bills um well look at them first if anybody have any question what were the signs were those little street signs yeah a good picture of you yeah was yeah you're good Bob if you want to
go okay thank you Council appreciate it have a good night I'll make a motion to pay the bills all favor oos motion carry motion to adjourn I'll make a motion to adjourn
the February 26th council meeting 26th I'll second that motion all in favor motion Carri e e e