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There we go. >> All right. Uh, today is Wednesday, June 24th, 6:00 p. p.m. Call the city council regular meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Present at today's meeting is myself,

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Chris Schmidt, >> Michael Bart, Katie, >> Janine, excuse me, >> Eric Brandt, >> we still got a pen. >> All right. Uh, approve or amend the agenda. Any amendments that we know of? >> There isn't any amendments. The check

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numbers are a little different. That doesn't really work amendment. >> Okay. I get a motion to approve. I'll make a motion. >> No second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carried.

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>> Consent agenda is a motion to approve the bills um checks totaling 52,73413 and motion to approve the June 10th, 2026 city council council work meeting

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minutes. You guys, I think there's a change on the the building of the this one, right? New updated one was online system. >> She did. You um checks. >> I've seen it on the computer. They just didn't see

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it. >> I'm sorry. Can you mute? I couldn't hear the second portion of the um the tables the list. There should be two of them. I think I only one it right now.

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>> Thank you. Um if you could just pause a little bit. It's not coming up as live. >> We tested it earlier. The sound isn't there. didn't rush to print it. I didn't change the

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that away. Let me know. I get an email that says that more than two. There's a bunch of trying to think it works. I should know what

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We just It is recording on that. >> All right. We will continue on. Um, >> I did have two comments to make. Um, in the uh meeting minutes from June 10th in the

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Habitat home edition. Um, third line from the bottom, also known as the middle line, I guess you state that there's no additional water mans can be added. It's sewer.

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Sewer. >> Sewer. >> And then the motion was carried with a 401 vote. >> Correct. >> On that same subject. >> Correct. And a quick question to the pay-rolls.

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Victoria lifesty was it 86 hours? Is that what that shows or >> uh yes because it was the training the orientation in the first two weeks of >> Oh I I was just checking on seemed

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really high compared to other thinkard. I need help. >> CPS can be >> We have a couple people that are very um what's the word you want to use? Really want to be in ours.

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>> Very ambitious. >> Yes. Nothing wrong with that. I'm going to use a lot. Oh, I was looking for and then I should say motion to approve the consent agenda.

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>> I will second. All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carried. Uh, no old business. Um, the one thing for that though, who is attending on Monday? >> I am.

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>> You too. >> Right. Perfect. >> Fire and all. >> Perfect. >> Are you a little concerned that that was in a word document? >> I mean, the whole version control is concerning across the board. But I think

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in the future they agree that >> I'm talking about the one makes sense. >> Oh, that makes me I know. I know. I'm just like >> what's the PDF? >> Yeah, it's really hard. >> Let's track changes.

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>> There there's opportunities there. >> I agree. >> But that is the version 11. That was the one that we >> It was I checked the email Lor sent and follow. >> Okay. All right. That's good. >> At least for now. >> Yeah. Mercy. >> We're not sure. It might be version

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three. >> Oh my god. >> Just kidding. >> All right. So, no old business. New business. Uh resolution accepting Lions Club donation. uh 10% of their total

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um well 10% of their total winnings but this is a portion and the other portion will come in around October right >> so this is a resolution for $10,000 motion for that

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>> I'll make a motion >> second >> all in favor I >> opposed. Motion carried. >> All right. Next one is resolution accepting bids for the city of good use lead service line replacement.

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Um I think that's where we kind of talked about at the last meeting with H&M. I thought we already made Well, we have to have the resolution. So we already made an agreement that we're going to go with H&M, right? >> Yeah. This is the just making it all proper.

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>> All right. So, uh, we'll need a motion for res accepting resolution 26-10 for H&M underground solutions for 167,800 for the city lead service lines being

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replaced. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? All right. committee updates. Um, I will start with the gas commission. Um, if any of you

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guys know anybody that wants to be on the gas commission, um, they are still looking for one member. Um, does not have to live in the city of Goodyu. Just has to be Oh, they don't. >> They just have to be a good gas customer.

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>> So, that goes all the way from the other side of one all the way mile or two down six and so on and so forth. So if you guys know anybody, we're still looking for one and that's all I got for the gas commission.

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>> Joint powers, we will be um meeting on Monday to hopefully approve version 11 of the joint powers agreement. Um we will update you and you get feedback on that.

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>> Perfect. Uh public works comment was in there. We discussed that last week. Um administrator comment. You got anything? >> I have a few. These are mostly FYIs of things that have occurred since um the

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last meeting um over VFest. There was a breakin on at the pool and people helped themselves to a party. Um there was no report made. It was a verbal warning only. >> Um I contacted the league on how we can

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protect the city because even if they break in and something happens, they could still try to come back to us. So I'm working with the league on changes um >> changes to what >> like security. Do we need to post

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something that says no trespassing? Do we just things >> not responsible for injury? just things to one up it. We have nothing now. And to try to um lessen anybody trying to sue the city because they broke in and

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got hurt. >> Sue the city due to their own negligence. >> Yeah. So, we got to do some things to try to help. I just want nobody to think that they could just do this and uh something might happen. >> So, why why didn't they arrest him?

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>> I do not know that. is the fact that there's a police report. That's that's >> I I asked. >> So, who called? >> They were on patrol. So, wasn't it like anybody called? >> It was at 5 in the morning. >> Happens every year. Someone breaks in.

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>> Oh, it does. >> You can call it somewhat of a good you tradition. >> Oh, okay. >> Well, there were beer cans in the pool. There was beer cans on the diving or not the diving but the seats. There were

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cans. Um I I don't find it funny. >> Uh but they didn't they didn't make a report or do anything further. >> Any damages or stolen goods? >> There was not because I asked uh the the

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the wall comes down from concessions and that's locked. Um I'm told in the They drag the picnic tables over to assist in the scaling. Um >> I've been given some information on on

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who it could be, but it's uh not confirmed now. So >> um eventually maybe it'll come out. I don't know. But at this point it's an unknown. >> Sure. >> I guess my concern is why was there no

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police report even made? concern. >> I don't know. >> They don't know. >> So, that's something that happened that on Friday night. >> So, can I just um I think it's important

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that we make sure like you were describing like put up negligence kind of signage. >> I don't think it's worthy of pursuing anybody if we don't have any record. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> It really doesn't matter who did it. I mean, >> it sucks, >> right?

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>> Mhm. >> Because it's all clean when the lifeguards leave and then they come in the next day expecting to start and they put out a clean again. >> Like beer cans everywhere. >> Beer can. Yeah. And there was still >> I get it. >> When beer the beer was still in the cans because

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when it was fished out, you could still smell it, you know. So, I mean, swimming. >> And one thing on that same note that I was going through some other communities uh meeting minutes. Um, one thing that I

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think we should always keep in mind is that other communities allow pool parties like we do. However, they also have to go before the council to request alcohol. And I think that's something just to be mindful. >> We allow alcohol. No, I'm just saying

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they like if you want to throw a pool party, you can have the pool party like in say Pine Island, but you have to go before the city council to >> request alcohol >> be there. You can't buy it, sell it. It's just, hey, we're having a birthday

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party. Yeah. Have a birthday party. We want alcohol. >> I think that's >> What about putting cameras down there? Don't you think we should have cameras down there anyway? >> That's what I'm chatting with them about. >> Is there Wi-Fi? We just got it installed from NEA

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>> a month ago. >> I mean that would present not a break in during then but just a breakin in general. >> Yeah. >> So now signage and video probably. >> I mean you could put this it's under if people think the cameras are there.

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>> I said people thinking cameras are there is a deterrent. >> We're l just >> so if we have >> that's okay. Um, if we have the same company that does the cameras here, >> I wonder if they can remote from there to this server. I don't know.

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>> I've chatted with Chris about that. I said I don't need it on during the day. I want it on off hours. >> Yep. And you can you usually >> Yep. Usually you can set that stuff up as a like a geo fence >> that when you're done any Yeah. So, I think that's something

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>> it's it's a work in progress. I mean, it's it happens on both desks. Apparently, it does and it's normal, but it could be anytime. I mean, it could be this Friday. It could be >> Well, and it's all fun and games. I get it. But >> what happens when somebody gets hurt

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>> or drowns or a guy cameras? >> Yeah, >> I know a guy, too. >> There's a thing that one thing maybe you should ask when you're back in the League of Minnesota cities is like be careful. I know you had mentioned maybe just on off hours, but then they'll be like, "Why don't you have them running during the day? If you have them installed, you should run them all the

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time." Ask maybe ask on that because I wouldn't want to say we're being negligent when people are there if we turn our cameras off too. >> You know, there's going to be the reverse side of that. >> Yeah. Most importantly, I want night. But >> for sure, >> I'll take days in case something happens

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during the day. >> Yep. >> The biggest thing is it can also protect our employees, too. >> Yeah. assaults or any anything stupid, but I doubt it, but it's it's there. It's there as a >> good >> as a thing. So, >> so that um this is this in the last two

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months, uh I've listened to voicemails. I've listened to conversations been told conversations that residents have with city staff and uh it's unacceptable some of the things that I've been hearing

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voicemails left. Um it's kind of getting out of control. Um if citizens have complaints about something, reaming out a city staff member is not the way to go. uh they

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should come see me. If they have an issue with a staff member, they should come see me. So, I'm inviting anybody to do that. Please don't remote a staff member. We had Junth. Someone didn't approve that. We had it

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off and wanted to call contact city hall. So they called the gas emergency line to ask a question about their bill and ringed out the person who transferred the phone call to who was on gas

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um call. >> So they they ringed out the call center. >> Yeah, they did. And then proceeded to ring out the call back. So uh they said who approved Junth because I didn't do it. >> It's a federal holiday. That's the answer.

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>> I get that. gave you that answer here. >> Yeah. At the time, um, >> at the same >> I mean, people are going to call and complain. That that's all there is to it. >> There's a level of respect that has to >> There's a level of respect >> and there has not been in the last two months.

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>> So, are we experiencing these complaints from targeted people like is it >> the same people? >> These aren't one person that's consistently. I think that's uh where you have we have to address it. >> It's unacceptable. the voicemails that I've listened to.

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>> So, we need to start collecting recordings of those. >> Do we still have those voicemails? >> Uh, I'll have to see if he kept them. >> Um, I'm not certain. >> Okay. So, I think similar to what Katie is saying, we need to start recording keeping these recordings

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>> and at some point it is, >> how do you say it? There is criminal charges that could be brought. Well, and and and if they come in here, I have a recorder on my desk that I I very well may record it just for to to have a

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record of it. But >> well, and and I know in the past when we've had people that continuously call over the same same exact thing, um it becomes a nuisance. And I mean, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but it becomes into a harassment thing. And we can just not accept their calls and

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forward their calls to the sheriff's department or have a deputy reach out to them and say, "Hey, you've got to stop harassing these people because the reason that you're calling has nothing to do with why you're calling. You're just now >> harassing." And that's what we do at

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work is we if we get a person, you know, the first three, four times that we deal with them, we deal with them. But once it becomes harassment, >> then we just we see the number pop up and we automatically transfer it over to uh >> But are you talking like two calls, five

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calls, 10 calls? You said two months. So >> over the past two months, over the past two months, it's gone an increasingly. >> Okay. So is it gone from two calls a day to five calls a day or >> it's not a a day thing? Some of it is in person. >> Okay. out on the street, you know, so

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the calls aren't happening daily, but just for instance, this Junth one, four phone calls came to the the call center for the gas and and on the same from the same person. >> So from the same person from the same person trying to get a question,

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>> it's not an emergency. That's not what that line is for. >> It's for gas e, not what's on my bill. So I guess >> wouldn't that would that fall under some kind of a criminal act using an emergency line other than emergency services?

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>> No, because tagline is not an emergency line. >> Just a dedicated. >> It's a dedicated line. Really the only emergency line would be would be nice. >> But I think you're going to get a relative number of people doing it. I just think if it's the same person or

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there's a pattern >> on that same line or same subject calling their personal phone call personal phone also is occurring to >> so this person is calling your cell phone your personal

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>> no it's calling a a city employee >> employ personal phone >> the the person they're calling correct me if I'm wrong the person that they're calling they're calling the same person it's not different employees it's the same >> for instance Don keeps calling Ron to

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complain and yell don't not just using bad names obviously, but >> it continues to happen no matter what, whether they're at work or not at work. And using a personal cell phone now is also getting involved. You say, >> calling on their personal number about city business, all hours, holidays,

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whatever it is, >> same person, different people. >> Um, on the recipient end or the calling in recipient in and yes, but the calling in is different people. It's different people using personal numbers. vlogging.

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>> Yeah, we need to start logging. >> Well, we may we probably have to. I'm just letting you guys know. This stuff has been happening and it's getting out of hand. >> No, that's unacceptable. I mean, >> in reality, I guess how I've always viewed it is it's not also even it's not

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any city employees job to get yelled at. It's our job because that's what we're ultimately we're your guys' boss. >> Well, I would rather them come and do it to me. I'll take it. I do not want staff getting it. >> Right. >> Right. Yeah. But there has to but there

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has to be a process so we can start documenting this. We can't >> I would say get a get a spreadsheet because of what's happened recently. >> Who who it was, who they called, >> what number in person. >> Yes. Who they talked to in person?

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>> And the reason that they're calling like why are they complaining? Are they complaining because their bill was 37 cents more? and and the the city hall phone number, leave a voicemail. I get it all weekend long. I get it at night. I get So, if it

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is something I will forward it on or I'll address it. So, if they think that calling city hall and leaving a voicemail isn't going to get them anything, >> I get them. >> I get a copy transcript. Sure. >> And all that. So, >> can you also log um if there's conference like conversations that are

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unhealthy? I mean, if like let's say I don't know his real name. Shoot. All of a sudden, all I can think of is players. Um, sorry, Jason. I know. Awful. I'm sorry. No, I'm not going to follow

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forever and three decades. >> It's not like it's ever. >> No. No. I just never That was his nickname. >> Yeah. >> His name is Jason. So Jason um he um >> been known as >> he if he has a healthy conversation like that's fine. Like that's just normal

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day-to-day interaction. But if he has an unhealthy conversation, can we block that also? >> Yeah. >> And and I'd like to someday to ride around because a lot of things happen. But as soon as I step foot in a truck, then it becomes, oh, she needs to be escorted around, huh? She can't drive

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around herself. It's a >> Yeah, >> it I mean, we have to do something. So we can >> jump in the old dodge and >> easy

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soft. I heard >> new garbage service. Just got confirmation when I got here tonight that the new pickup date will be Wednesday. >> Cannot do. >> Oh my gosh. What am I going to do? How am I going to figure it out? How am I going to figure that out? >> So that's >> I know that after council I got to put

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it out now. How am I going to do this? uh it'll be advertised out on all things that we can advertise out. >> Speaking of that, >> healthy conversations. >> So, so speaking of that, >> phone calls, >> speaking that I don't mean that.

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So, we again need to do a better job of putting stuff on Facebook, I think. Um, so are you gonna like the garbage? All of that stuff will be on everything because that's affecting there's a few changes happening. So

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>> that's months. >> I would start putting that on Facebook now. >> I will. I just got confirmation. I was waiting for >> it's going to be Wednesday. They're gonna But I would definitely use Facebook for that >> once you do you know the date that they're >> August 31st is the end of our waste

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management and that's so that Wednesday >> September the second. Yeah. August 31st, I believe, from Monday. So, all of that will be going out, but just so you guys know, so you can spread the word, too. >> Did they say what the the garbage can

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size? They're going to keep them all the same, the bigger ones, or they do like we have. >> You get you get to pick apparently. >> They're all being delivered and stored here, but those details aren't um exactly. >> I was kind of curious. They're just going to drop them off and that's what

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you get. You want a bigger one? >> Big ones would be kind of nice. >> And then who's picking up all the waste management camps? >> Waste management. >> And what's the plan to do that? >> Set up set them outside. >> I wouldn't send anything out on Facebook

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until I This is a lot of all of most of the details >> will be in the newsletter for July. >> Sure. >> So they can get ready and it'll be again in August. >> Cool. >> I'm sorry, not July. very digital August

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um newsletter. Okay. And the last thing I have, which I know is not going to be popular, but it's a fact of life. Next week, due to a Spanish class trip to Costa Rica, the pool will need to be closed

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the 2nd of July through the 4th because there's nobody in town. >> They're going to be in Costa Rica. >> Not nobody in town. A lot of the lifeguards are going to be I shouldn't say that I'm not we don't have

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>> you don't have staffing it's heavily affecting the staffing that that >> sure >> that is something I would put out on >> she she did she she put it out today or she just found out today she gave him till today to confirm

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>> so she'll put it out on the pool Facebook >> I think it should be on the city Facebook page is How many staff out of the staff that we have, how many staff are not going?

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>> That I don't know. I didn't >> because it would be nice if they killed. >> It's a holiday weekend. So, it would be really really nice if we could have like li at least just limited hours. >> They have one person available and we can't have a pool, >> right?

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>> Where's everyone else then? Like this is I guess I think where at least I would come from with this is so let's say there's 10 people going on the Costa Rica trip or five that means there's life still that so does she allow everyone else to go on

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>> you're not dedicated to certain hours every month are we every week >> well and this is >> you don't say that you work 9 to5 right >> well and this is this is one thing that I brought up >> this is something that I brought up last year and the year before because it

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seems to be a problem every year is that and I get co Costa Rica is a different it's a different thing but um there's different times of the year or during the summer where every family takes the

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same exact vacations. Well, you this is still business and we still have to maintain that. So if you have 15 staff that work up there, 10 of them are going, you have five left. Well, out of that five, are four of them on vacation

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that week? I don't know. And that's where like you have to be a supervisor or a boss and deny that. I'm sorry, but the first three people that have that time in get to go. >> I strongly disagree. Just because these

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are kids in school, they'll just say, "Peace, I don't need this job." And that is a reality of kind of the world we're in currently is you can't just tell kids, hey, you have to work because you have families like you said, we're going

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to go on vacation together. Why is my family vacation denied over Costa Rica? >> You have to deny Costa Rica, too. >> The thing is though, if they were to go work anywhere else, they're going to be denied just the same. >> Not if they're supplemental. >> They're not dedicated to a schedule. >> Generation.

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>> That's the hard part. like they're not they're these kids are picking up hours. They're not saying, "Hey, you were scheduled every other weekend. You're dedicated to every other weekend." We have no set precedence like that. Maybe next year we want to set a precedence like that. Saying you have to work two

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weekends out of the month and that's your expectation and you will be scheduled every other. >> What's your employee handbook? >> It's if they're seasonal. So it isn't a you >> they would still apply to our employment though.

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>> Yeah. But they're seasonal workers mean they don't have a set time like the rest of us do where they have to have a >> but it it's it's it's a business and the pool is the pool's business hours are

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scheduled to be open from whatever time to whatever time which means that staff have to be there. I'm not saying that so and so has to work 30 hours or 20 hours. I'm just saying that somebody has to be there and that's part

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of the the the supervisor's job to maintain that that pool is open during that time. Nobody is any more important than the other person. But again, it's business and it's what we have. And I'm I've been fighting this for couple years now that you know

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I I spend 100 I don't know what are they 160 bucks 175 bucks for a pool pass >> and holiday weekends we're off. We want to go swimming but we can't because the pool's closed >> and that's Yeah. And then you're paying for that. >> You're paying for a service basically

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that now is again limited in hours that you can't use it when it should >> I mean it's gotten it's gotten a lot better but You know, like I said last year, I think I said we need to make sure that these people are somebody is there. >> Yeah. >> I don't care how many hours they work.

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Just somebody needs to be at the pool when the pool is open. >> And I guess that's where I disagree with Katie as well is there may not be a set precedent of you requiring to work 20 hours a week or whatever. And I understand that it is a somewhat of a

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flex fluid schedule where no two weeks are probably the same on scheduling. At the same notion, I worked a job the same exact way and yet I had had to miss family vacations because you know what? I was scheduled and couldn't get out of

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it. I happens. >> I don't think I think it's a different generation. I think that it's I understand what Chris is saying, but it's an expectation we have to set prior. There's been a precedent set. You can't just say all of a sudden this year we're going to do

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this. >> You almost have to have an agreement with those employees saying I'm going to fill two holidays or I'm going to do something. >> So, I guess another question is is aren't they scheduling all this stuff? So, they know in advance that hey, these 10 girls are going to be gone in these

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dates. Maybe we should try to fill that two months in advance. And that's what I would say too is at the same token like you knew >> the manager and this is how I would have went forward with it. The manager would have said at the time of hiring when's

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your vacations get them into me now. Here's the whiteboard with the calendar. Fill out when you're gone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And that I was there at orientation and literally somebody sat down and went, "Oh, I didn't tell you

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next week I'm on vacation." So Tori, not Tori, um Maya tried to get all of those and I talked to her about this specifically about July 4th, but I don't think she knew about the Costa Rica trip and when I said it's, you know, you have

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to find people because this is an issue. But then with this trip, one person was available. >> So 19 17 people are going to Costa Rica then. >> Well, 16. >> That's not true. >> Can I just chime in with What the head

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or what Maya probably has to deal with too is the fact that there are three head guards. I'm guessing since there's head guards that at every shift there's got to be one of those three. So they're kind of stuck at all three of them are you know going what do they do?

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>> We always had headarts or leads. >> Yeah. >> Is Maya one of those three? >> Maya's the manager. So Maya's not but doesn't she >> like she technically would make four >> and she would be a heckard as well. >> So there is four

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>> just what's the minimum staff requirement >> they have four life guards on >> it depends on how much of the pool is open if each section you have the deep end the lap end and then the kitty end. So each one of those need one person

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plus a breaker to rotate. So if you have four people, the whole pool can be open. If you, and correct me if I'm wrong, if you have three people, then one part of portion of the pool has to be closed. And if you have two people, which

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you don't, then only usually they'll open up just either the kitty part if there's kids. If there's no little kids, then they'll open up the diving board site is what they've done in the past. But you need at least at the time was two, but they if they

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have three, they can make it work. But if they get down to two, they usually just shut down. >> Have we ever talked about um like my son works at minards, but on the weekends he gets pays because they can't get people to work at minards on the weekends.

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>> Work. >> So are maybe that's something we also need to think about for future like next year holiday weekends. >> You get paid cents extra or something. >> No, that's the way it was when I was 5ense.

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>> Five cents is like five bucks. >> Yeah, I think there's a couple opportunities next year. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think we have I think we have to because this pool's going to open next year. So again, we can have a strain with lifeguards as it is, >> right? Especially if they're going to

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pay them more. >> Curiosity question. Is that many lifeguards coming from town? >> There are a few. >> I was just I had no idea. Yeah, >> we're a hot thing. We have to be a hot commodity. >> That's all I have.

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>> Okay. Is she going to try to work on maybe >> it's close to >> I'll be I'll be coming to your backyard. You come to my >> fine by me. >> Spray each other with the hose. >> Slip and slide. >> And we've got we've got our own pool.

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Mine's on the deck. is in the backyard. >> You usually come over, jump off the trampoline. >> There you go. >> All right. Uh, any council comment? >> Yeah, I do have a council comment. Again, I I'm I'm like obsessed with

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this. Nobody signs up for the alerts and newsletters or whatever. It's not the best way to communicate the information. So, like the city council vacancies, I seen that on Facebook. So, we we need we we need to get that out there.

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>> We I just added to the to the website today. >> No, I'm talking about Facebook. >> No, I know that, but but since Red Computer does it, there's a lapse in time when I add it and I send it to them. That's all I'm saying. >> Okay. So, we don't post to our own Facebook page.

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>> No. >> Why? Why is that? Because and so in the past it was when a individual did it that individual controlled everything

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>> admin >> as everything. So they didn't sign assign admins out at the time. They didn't assign moderators. It was just they were in control. Well, then when um they left, they took the login, the

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passwords and everything with them. >> I can't have it >> and you can't do that. That's why um not with not with just Facebook but a lot of stuff in general they handed it over to Redwing computer because Redwing computer or Redwing software Redwing

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something >> um they took it because they're going to be here whether or not Lori stays or Lisa stays or Jason or Todd or whoever. It doesn't matter. Redwing software is always going to be there. >> They're a neutral third party. They're a

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neutral third party, so they control it. They can still log in on Facebook, but I think or isn't it just Jason? >> He could post he can post things um like the the snow, you know, if he's going out at 2 in the morning, whatever,

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>> but but he doesn't he doesn't do that outside of snow. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, if we want to post something on Facebook, walk me through how that works. >> I have to open up a support ticket. >> You open up a support ticket. >> Yeah. For them and then it gets in their

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queue. >> It gets in their queue. So >> is that part of our casket >> and we pay them for that. >> They are making the updates for for no charge. >> They said that they would do that and as long as we weren't posting five times a

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day, they would consider they would continue doing it at no charge. And how what's the lag on that between the time you open up a support ticket and the time they post it? >> It it's not a set time. It's when they read it and they think they can get to

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it. It's it's totally I mean I could put on there urgent or they can read that it's you know something that's happening in 12 hours or whatever. Um >> I mean like on average is it like if you if you sent a support ticket this morning would it be there

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>> one to three days is what I've been I've been seeing >> late at the minute you say support ticket that's >> I guess is there a huge company though >> they're doing it for no charge >> otherwise they would charge us

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>> um so I >> have been taking advantage >> Jason's admin or he can post is there a way to get you to be able to post as well from that just him. >> I don't I don't know. I don't have any

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Facebook experience at all. It's social media. I don't I don't have anything on there. So, I'd rather have people who can post it and not have an oops post um to say something that you shouldn't be saying.

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>> But it's really information. I mean that's >> and that's >> it's stuff like it's stuff like a newsletter. It's so Yeah, but people don't use that. They don't look at it. That that's the thing. It's like I feel like there's such a struggle here. I there are like five people that didn't

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even know there were city council vacancies available. Right. Well, I went to the website. I didn't I didn't see I went over here. I these like communicating with a newsletter I I just don't think is the best

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>> approach to and I get it because we can only get 114 people >> to sign up for alerts. So that's pretty much a wash. >> Correct me if I'm wrong. They need to be two weeks before the actual opening dates and that's why it was in the

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newspaper today. I posted it on that because it needs to be when it comes to elections, they have to be done within a certain time of >> I get that, Lisa, but all I'm saying is that we need to be able to communicate this stuff instantaneously,

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right? Like there should be no reason why the city council I don't I don't need to hear the excuses, right? We we need to understand like to get this stuff onto Facebook. And I'm telling you the reason why the posting isn't as probably timely as you probably think it should be because we

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have to do it within two weeks of the opening. That's why you said nobody by people have not heard of it because it hit the paper today. I put it on the website today and it'll go on Facebook. >> But it was in the newsletter like a month ago, right? So how did

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>> that was coming up that it was coming up? the actual posting that was in the paper is the official posting. >> So that those are the those are the rules set out by the secretary of state. >> Yeah. >> But two months ago we could have put

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something out and said well I did put it I did put it on the website and I put it on the newsletter and I said it's coming up. I mean >> I think that's something that should have been posted to Facebook. >> I think that's what you're saying. Is that correct Janine? That we should have been saying Facebook. We have a thousand

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followers that follow the city with you. >> So I think like people go on there every day. >> Yeah. >> Right. And they say, "Oh, let me see what's going on today." >> You know, we don't we don't have to necessarily post the the the open time.

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We could just say, "Hey, on July 14th, >> right, >> is the opening for these seats?" like we can post it at a certain time to say these are open, but we could leading up

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to it, we could say, "Hey, >> you know, anybody interested in um you know, sitting on good use city council or the mayor or whatever, um you have >> from now until July 14th to think about it come July 14, which is in two weeks,

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right?" So, >> and and I see what you're saying. >> What I'm trying to say is you're looking at Facebook, right? which is >> you can't open it for somebody to click a link or or do anything until >> right >> that >> and we should be posting out there that the pool is closed. I mean if you're

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saying it takes three days to post something on Facebook today is already Wednesday. We're going to tell people the pool is closed over July 4th. What? Monday? >> She does that. She has it on the pool closed. But I think how many the pool doesn't have as many followers as the city of would be my assumption because

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>> I didn't know >> there's half a dozen different good you swimming pool Facebook pages. Yeah. Because again >> people have left and they've taken the information with them. >> Good police had what two or three city of good you had? >> Yeah.

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>> A couple or three. I mean it's >> and the police had good community. >> Yeah. Good police department I know had three at one point. >> Yeah. Good city talk is another another one by another social media. >> Yeah, that's somebody

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>> but there's all these Facebook pages that are out there that >> talk about stuff >> and anytime something's posted I always share it on mine but >> you know >> the bill goes to every single person. So that's why that is the thing that I use

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to to get information because it goes to every single >> but people don't read it. They don't look at it. People are not in the paper these days. >> I think the ask is that we would like to see more Facebook postings. Can you help us with that? >> I I can if it starts getting above I

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don't know what their limit is. This is Chris out of the kindness of being Chris saying I can do it but not a lot of >> and I and I get that too but again he runs a business. We run a business. They are monitoring our page and our stuff

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for us. So if we have to pay for it again he's doing it free. Very appreciated. Thank you, Chris. But if we have to pay for it, we have to pay for it. We have to get the word out there, you know, because again, we were expecting to pay for this. It's great that we're getting it, you know, at no

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charge, but >> or we create a social media person. >> No, I think we get Lisa trained in how to do this administrator. Right. That is another option to have you train in on how to a Facebook post

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>> and that can be Redwing that shows you how to do that if that's what we need to do >> and then just make somebody or her a moderator and or is that what it is you have moderator >> contributor whatever >> just gives access to post >> you can make post you can change things

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but you you don't have overall ownership of the page that's so >> that needs to stay and I think that's a great idea you know, put in a ticket to have Chris come in and show how to uh update >> pages. So then we can get them out in a

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timely fashion versus a pool closing in the week. >> So at this time there's two asks for donations. I'm sorry, nominations. I believe Yeah, donations for um nominations for council like to to submit your paperwork. That would be one

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of the Facebook posts. And then um you could repost the closing to the city um page and he would know what that means. But he could pull from this or create his own whatever he finds appropriate, but to the pool closing on the second and fourth, second, third, fourth.

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>> Those are the two things I can think of at this time. Do you guys agree? Those are two things we >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Thank you. >> Okay. Oh, no. July 2nd's Thursday. I'm looking at you. Okay.

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>> And honestly, the younger generation, it feels old saying that that doesn't use Facebook. So, eventually we'll have to figure out what that next version looks like. But >> yeah, Instagram, Tik Tok, and >> let's not go there. I know. I get

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comments of people saying they didn't see it on Facebook, and it was on Facebook. So, it It's trying to find a way to get to everybody because it's not a here all end all. I see comments that people didn't know about it when it was on Facebook.

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>> Yep. And some people just don't mean >> and we and like Michael said, we won't we're not going to reach everybody, but >> we have a better opportunity to reach more if we utilize more um avenues than just one or two. >> And Facebook does have a nice following.

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So that's something >> I want to You said you have any questions about that? I'm sorry. We threw that information in. >> Okay. >> Sweet. >> Anybody else got anything? >> I do. Uh, solicitors in Goodwill.

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Nobody's pulling permits going around Goodwill trying to solicit services. I've personally seen it happen, so I know they are. So, >> who's suiciding? >> Well, that would be me. knocking on your door type deal.

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>> Knocking your door, knocking on the door, saying that they're >> Yeah, but I handle it. I I mean I So, not to cut off Eric, but when somebody comes and knocks on my door or approaches me in my yard, you know, I'll say, "Hey, I'm Chris. Hey, I'm Joe." Um,

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and I'll I'll politely ask them, "Did you stop down at city hall prior to going from door to door?" "No, I did not. Could you please go down to city hall, pull a peddler's permit or a solicitor's permit?" It's free of charge, right? >> 100 bucks. >> 100 bucks. Okay.

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>> Um, but it's you go down there, you do it, but if you solicit people's houses without the permit, you can be fined. Oh, I didn't know that. And then they immediately jump in their truck. >> So, this one I did actually ask if he

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did go to the city to pull permit. And his statement to my wife was yes. It was in his truck. >> And it was not. So >> for the record, we have had no pedlers this year. >> Can I can we

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ever >> uh White Knight Pest Control? >> They said that they've already had multiple customers in the area. Gave my wife some names of people. >> Were they legit? >> They sound legit. >> Well, they're legit names, but you can pull those names off. >> County website literally anybody who

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owns homes. >> Are they in the state business >> uh in I think she said they're on >> you sent me like Minnesota >> that's out there >> yeah a lot of this got brought up when >> I really want to say like no Virginia

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with rock >> a lot of this river to uh to surface when we had that hail damage >> every every roofer and not a single one of them came down and asked permits >> Tony Rener texted Jason the night open

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said I'll stop in the morning we're going to start doing >> this individual literally wrote that he's a route manager on there but >> 602 >> so that's >> I talked to him through my ring camera because I was oh at the time I came

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through >> Oh okay see we a ring camera, too. >> My wife was out there talking. I seen I said, "My brother-in-law showed up." I looked and it was him talking to my wife and I asked over that.

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>> Okay. Yeah. I just keep directing them. I would say keep directing them towards city hall. And I I don't know. Lisa could probably answer this. How many times have I sent you a text message or an email asking? He asked if a name of somebody and I'd say, "What's my response?"

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>> Nope. Not as So that's what I do is I just take a picture of the vehicle and I'll I'll send it to Lisa and say, "Hey, we got this." Nope. All right. And then I can usually I mean there goes the code. Hey, the city has nothing. Could you please go down to city hall? Yeah,

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my wife was talking face to face with my just heard a lot of it over the bring camera when I was away, but >> I guess she was just streaming today on on another good use site that somebody else was already asking about the same thing. So >> yeah, the only the only pest company I know other than was it Richards?

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Pritchards one, but is Pest Arrest in Redwing and I just I see his stuff all the time. But >> that and Bob the So many so many scammers out there. >> So that's what I would say. I would recommend just

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>> we want to include that in one of our other posts that their solicitors may be coming around >> could be >> and I know they have like if they had a solicitor that came down they'll put Lisa has put that on had them put it on >> said they're okay. >> Yeah.

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So, but yeah, I would say, >> you know, by the time you post something, one to three day service, they're going to be >> I mean, yeah, this time it's going to not really go very good, but >> potentially scammed >> something for our future alert or something that might be going on, especially after big storms, stuff like

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that. I think you're probably going to get a lot of a lot of uh >> good feedback if you know like me if I anybody can send me a picture of somebody soliciting I'll post it on the good you talk or my own Facebook page I

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don't care um but I'll post it on there and say hey look this person soliciting business and then people just share it but that good you town talk >> yeah my not affiliated with good you >> that's a really weird So

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>> there's one for some too. >> I I think ours is a little bit shiny. >> Huh. Yeah, exactly. Um, anybody else got anything? >> All right. Um, I have nothing. Um, the

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public, do you have anything? >> One at a time. >> No fighting. We have nothing. >> Um, all right. Uh, can I get a motion to >> adjourn? I'll second. >> All in favor? Opposed? >> No, man. I was asking