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So I mean this And is it private? I'll look >> the one I had questions. test every time >> and then it goes into its

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>> Carl had to back. Okay. I just want to make sure make it just a little bit easier. >> Well, we tested it every Wednesday before and then it goes into um standby and it loses. So, like the

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sound is still working and private media is still working, but it's not showing. So once the meeting's all done, they can put it all back on the private, but it's on public. That's

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I know they were having problems with the internet in town earlier today, too. That's good. because air. >> At least one of them is recording, right? >> All right. Uh today, July 22nd,

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Wednesday, call the regular city council meeting to order. Time is 603. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Present at today's meeting is myself, Chris Schmidt, >> Michael, >> Katie Gray, Jine,

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>> Eric Grant, >> All right. um approve or amend the agenda. Any amendments? >> I don't I think he >> Yep. I would like to talk about P's bill that we received. >> I'd also like to talk about lawyer

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expenditures to make sure we're at where we're at in the budget with that. business. >> Yeah, sounds good. >> Expenditures. >> Can we put joint powers um at the top of the list for new business?

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A motion to approve the amended agenda. >> Make a motion. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> Uh consent agenda. Uh motion to approve the following bills. check 04078548

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totaling 70,423 and the July 8 2026 city council meeting for that second sheet after this I'll make a motion to approve the total

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of 78048.43 43 plus the additional one of 427949. >> Chris was looking for that. >> Um, no. I I think uh Lori and I were talking

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about what we had talked about on Monday. I think Tuesday the the money for the kids. >> Yes, that was um in between batches in between eating the approved to go ahead

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and do it way back just the check. >> Okay. >> So, is that on this run of numbers or how where does that get tracked? It was >> basically an additional one in between. >> Yeah. So, it was either probably like the the work meeting and then the last

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council like So it would have been on one of those previous >> except with each one of them if they're done for some reason in between batches. >> Are they always on the claims list? But this is a claims list for approval. So

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maybe not claims list is for all the checks that are just in this batch or this meeting. >> Okay. >> So we we approved it before that >> some motion. Yeah. >> Yeah. So I just it was one of those things where I saw going through the the

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list that we had paid the posi and it just struck up well did we pay that one too because I didn't see it on this so it might have been before. So it was the biggest thing for me was just making sure that they got paid for what they did and I know >> building a paper trail of something to

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pay. >> So when you said that then I just generated the >> check and I think to get an invoice from. >> Yeah. And I think if there's anything any questions, we could probably because I know Carl had to approve it according

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to Don Flynworth. So if we need a receipt for it, I'm pretty sure it would probably be pretty easy to say, "Hey, can we just get a receipt for it?" >> I think you honestly could just put the meeting minutes. >> I'll second that. I just wanted to make

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sure that they got uh we got a motion. We got a second. All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carried. Uh no old business. Uh new business. We are going to start with the joint powers agreement

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bill that you wanted to bring up. >> So um the joint powers bill you said that you got um there was they sent us a bill for Bill was for the agreed to fund per

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contract amount from May until now until end of the year. >> Until end of the year. Okay. And um it was the per contract agreed amount and you had said there was some errors to

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it. Can you help us understand the >> the date on it was May and when I had followed up with Brad asking why it stated May and not July he had said well that's when you in effect became members

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and I looked at the contract and it said it doesn't take effect until all the signatures are on the agreement which was the end of June. >> Okay. So, well, let me rephrase that. When it was approved the end of June, by the time all the signatures got on it,

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it was July 17th, and that's what the agreement states when it becomes active. >> Um, okay. So, can you tell me how much that bill was for? Pass that down.

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I have the other one, but this is the the the first half. This is the what we pay of under the old agreement. This is the the expenses. I mean, if you want to see this, you can, but this is old. That's new.

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>> Okay. when you guys because I wasn't here. When you guys talked about this and um had a conversation at city council meeting, what was the decision that the committee made about paying for joint powers? Was it to pay the contract proposed amount

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that um was in the joint powers contract? >> I I don't recall I don't recall >> was your question. >> What was the discussion at the time of the meeting in Well, I'm guessing it was before May with the city council on what

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we would pay because from what I understand there's a conversation about we are plan where we think we're really close to the finish line. We're going to stop paying this. We'll pay this. We'll give you a bill when it's ready. And the conversation from what I

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understand and I don't have any documentation because I don't have the meeting minutes because I wasn't here was that we would pay our percentage per contract that we were working on. There was no conversation to held to that effect. >> Huh? >> There was no conversation held to that

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effect. >> Okay. So, >> we never had any conversation. >> So, the conversation was had at the truck association in hopes that this would be figured out within the first quarter of the year, which it then got drug.

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>> Okay. And the the talk for the first quarter of the year in the truck association meetings was the city of Goodyu would continue to pay their 22 and a.5% of all building maintenance and the um

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levy that is held every year to fund the Trump association would be split. How do I say this? One quarter will be split without goodu and then three quarters will be split with goodu. Correct?

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>> No, it was split 50,000 for the without good city and 125,000 with good you >> and uh from my thinking is it's a levy. There wasn't it doesn't it isn't hinged

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on a date. I know what it says. I know when it was approved, but u if if the city chooses not to pay the amount, then they need to follow section 8 in the agreement to say why so that

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the fire association can take that up. >> I think there's a bigger conversation too is I don't know what you guys agreed on, so that's really hard for me to go back to. Do we a date on a bill? We're not really disputing the amount of the

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bill. We're just You wanted to have the date fixed on the bill and then was your plan to pay the bill then? >> Well, the the date affects it because it's two more months of us paying when we're paying two more months of the workers comp. Otherwise, if it was March or I mean May 1st, I would have canled

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them off if they were at that time, but we have been paying workers comp May, June, and now half of July. So I just said do it retro. I responded to to Brad and I said the date should be the end of

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June at a minimum because that's what it was agreed to but all the signatures didn't happen till July 17th. >> So and we stopped paying >> we stopped paying that 22% of the utilities also in May. >> Well the bill reflects that

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>> bill reflects that. >> Okay. >> The the old old bill versus the new. I'll just state it that way. Old agreement, new agreement. >> Okay. Um, so no matter what, we're asking that what we've paid in workman's

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comp be like taken out of that total. >> No, taking the instead of dividing it by May through the end of the year for our total, it would should be July 17th through the end of the year. So, we're

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paying more for the two months. But we would ultimately pay our percentage. We're not not paying them for May, June, July, right? For either utilities or the agreement. We're still going to have to make up for that.

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>> It I I just asked for a new invoice. So that would reflect through July the the utilities and then reflect through July to December for the levy. So this one, you want this one to go to July 17th and then this one from July 17.

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>> Correct. And so it's going to adjust not so much the amount so much of the first half, but the second half it will by two months when you divide that divided by it's going to be different.

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>> Well, what's the 36603 that we've already paid this year? What does that consist of? training that wasn't covered under reimbursements. And we just >> So this fire protection train is 36603

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is all training. >> That's what we pay for for them. And then we just got to another $2,000 bill last week. >> Okay. So this has nothing to do with this. These are two separate issues, right? >> Correct. Okay. >> Per the old agreement, we had to pay

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training costs that were not covered as well. So we would expect to pay the 22.5% and the workman's comp through July 17th >> according to the agreement that's what it states because it didn't become active until all signed parties signed

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it >> and then so we would still own we would still owe a chunk for that prior time and then after that would be July 17th >> of the levy it's it's operating expenses until July

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17th levy after July 17th. >> So, we're not disputing paying. We're just disputing on the amount to be paid. >> Can you do the math? What is the difference? >> I'm just curious. Like I said, every other city and

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township when did they start? Did they go back and make >> every city and township didn't it didn't it didn't matter because they were going to pay no matter what. They didn't have a different agreement. The only different agreement that slightly changed them is how their percentage

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portion was factored. So for instance, under the old agreement, trying to think how it says your smaller townships will pay less. Yeah, under the old agreement everyone less

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good wasn't factored in. And so with how we changed that, it did change how people paid, but everyone paid. We are the only township that is shouldn't say township entity that is changing large amount for >> that. That's one of the reasons that you

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need to follow section 8 if you decide not to pay because you're affecting everybody else. Everybody else is paying based on the contract the percentages that are out here. Um if you change somehow that levy differences has to be

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made up. So that's why the board needs to handle it. They may the levity doesn't change when they get paid. It's what's the difference here because we're paying the other nine entities are paying this much. Well, the

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gap is here and you're want to reduce the gap and so that leaves the fire levy short by the action you're taking. That's why I'm saying you need to follow section 8 and also understand what happens under

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section two of the agreement once you take that action. >> But wouldn't everybody else's rates change as well if they're going >> That's right. Uh, I'm sorry about interrupting a little bit, but if you don't pay your full

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amount and you want to file agreements, my township can also file an agreement because we paid the full amount based on the understanding that everybody's going to pay the new amount. >> Well, and it's not it's a levy. It's not a per day or per month type of thing. I

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believe that uh the association signed the the levy December 30th and you're still responsible is my thinking and take on it. But the board has to handle it and that's why it has to the city would need to follow the

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grievance and explain their reasoning and then the fire association needs to look at how it affects them. what we do with that difference that's going to be there. Do we reissue a new levy that everybody makes up the difference for what? I mean, the levy

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didn't change just because and we understand there's a little bit of a discrepancy, but we paid our part even though we were under the old part till April and then there's this two month

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gap and then we did worry about that page. So >> it's a sore spot. If you do that, it'll be noted in the uh and like next year we didn't reach the levy.

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That'll be have to be addressed that way. But if we make up it doesn't disappear because of your action. >> So for two of the 2026 is 28,300. So when you do you do the math by chance

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>> I don't think that number is going to change at 28300. I think it's going to be that other portion where it's the doable change but this was faced on three quarter of the year but in reality

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more half year. So this one goes from January 1st to April 30th. It's $7800. >> Total due from the city is $1,700. >> And this one is the balance due from the levy May through December

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which is 283. >> I guess my question is who came up with the dates on this is done through the association for the decision made. All parties at the association agreed to that. Yes. >> I'm so confused as to what the issue.

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>> So if if the if if the representative from the city of good went and they agreed upon it then I I >> the representative from the city of good. >> It's a contentious issue if we have the same voting power previously or not. I

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mean, I I think it's just I'd love to know what the difference is, but I don't think it really matters at this point as much as it just needs to get >> because I don't think it thousands of dollars.

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>> It isn't. I just I would sign >> and I looked at it and I said, "Well, this may hurt. Why is it?" And he responded back. They said, "Well, that's when that's when the association had effectively became part of it on May

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1st." And I thought, well, that's news to me that we were effectively part of it May 1st of this year when we've been paying workers comp and all the other things just as normal. >> So, does that bill take into consideration the money that we did pay

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through like workman's comp already? >> No. So, if we figured out what we paid in workman's comp and asked them to remove that from the levy amount, that would essentially put us at the same amount from the May to through the end of the

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year. Correct. I'm not certain what months and years we're going to be credited and won't get credited for May and June. We will get credited from now July 17th.

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>> So, so we won't get credit for the months that we were paying. >> Did we already pay the did we already the end of the year? >> We did. Okay. And I was waiting because that's when we thought it was going to

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happen in the first quarter. And so Jerry said either you can pay and get a credit or wait. And I waited until two days before it was due. And I said we don't have an agreement yet. So he said pay it all and then you'll get credited on the date that you stop.

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How much do we pay for work? >> Change 8700 >> 8700. Yes. >> 8700 by 12. >> Or do we do this even cleaner? >> 6800. >> Yeah. 8,700 divided by 12 is 725.

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725 times two and a half months is we're looking at less than 1800 >> 1,800 bucks. I don't think it's that big of a deal for 1800. >> I don't think it's going to matter anyway. It was already agreed upon from the city at that association that that

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start it is what it is and it's already agreed upon. So I think we just keep back. Oh, I'm sorry. I'll put it back in. >> I think you just >> It was just information.

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>> No, and that's fine. That's great information. It's >> I mean I when I was here and I talked to it was >> Yeah. when he came here. So, um if you I just want to bring this up because I don't know if anybody else has seen

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this. So, um, >> so what they've done is, um, which I thought was kind of interesting anyway, is that on this sheet here, um,

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to keep it simple, Brad, and I don't know if you guys knew this or not, but um, so he he he rounded it to the nearest. Yeah, you guys knew that, right? So, it's not going to come out even. So, one month we might not pay

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$10, the next month we might. So, that was when he explained it to me. I mean, it, you know, there's there's money covering in there. So, I don't know. I just I think it's it's not worth the it's not worth the trouble for bucks.

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>> So, um it's good information and I appreciate that. It's, you know, I think that we're uh this has been dried out way too long. Way too long. And I think we just need

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to do our portion. I mean, he's right. If we say, "Hey, we're not going to pay this $1,700 or $1,800." Well, then who's going to pay? >> I'll give you anyway. It was already at the meeting. So, I mean, it is

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the official date of the document signed is June 29th. Even though every person individuals signature wasn't on there, that'll give you official start. >> That's that's the way it is. I mean, if you look at the signed document, I don't

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have it with me, but it's June 29th is the official start. just because you know everybody has lives >> no I think it's good it's great observation on your heart um and thank you for that I just just

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>> we need a motion or anything on that >> just is there any other questions I think it's kind of >> we have any other surprises that might pop up we don't know >> um I do think that they will buy a truck in the next five years, right?

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>> I don't know. But yeah, trucks expensive. Yeah, there's I would say anywhere's in the two to five range something. >> I think that will be something that will bumper truck. >> Is that the one that looks like it's from 1960s? >> Yeah.

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>> Big tank. >> No, actually that's not the oldest one. It's actually one of the newer ones, >> but the same big tank. >> That truck issues. So, >> well, thank you.

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>> Thank you. >> Whatever. >> Just get it done, man. Get it done. I appreciate you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Have a good night. >> Um All right. So, next thing on is the city road closure request lines for the chicken barbecue. Same thing every year.

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Um, looks like they're just going to block off from Second and Broadway to First and Broadway. Um, there's nothing special about that. >> I'll make a motion. Second. >> All in favor?

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>> Motion carry the chicken barbecue. Next data practices policy adoption contacted by pass by August 1. This is the template. I' asked Bob he said no take based on what your fees

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are and go with it. I just wanted to make sure she had it in here. $30. >> So I guess we just minimum $30. >> I appreciate that they provide this

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template. Let's say it's like privacy >> consumer confidence report. >> Yeah. Like >> it's on the website. >> Oh, it is. Yeah, >> it has to be. But it also only has to be

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once used to be they by law. >> Now that cost us $1,000 to I'll make a motion. >> All in favor motion final

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expenses. Do we need to get a detailed um expense reporting or so I've noticed something and I just want to talk to this is that um we inquire a lot and that is um great if

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it's part of our package plan that we inquire but I think there's some things that we could not inquire with him so much on and don't because they don't want to see us use that 30,000 budget to save some of that we need to budget for because stuff happens.

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Do we have so many inquiries that are covered with a package or we don't >> pay at the time several other firms retainer one of those things that we chose.

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>> Do we um get itemized statement from him when we break it down since we started tracking it May of 2025 through now um Lions Gas School and Truck Association

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has taken up 39% of our costs. >> Okay. So the other the other part is um answering questions ordinance

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any had questions on making sure that it is properly Okay. included every day. This isn't Yeah. >> Yeah. Um I still think there's a money

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saving there that we should explore. I would like to suggest we explore is we have more of a filter on what we bring to the >> he hasn't been online >> for meetings for quite some time and

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then he was online but agender um so how can we approach them and do you I agree. I mean, it's Yeah, obviously we need to lower our our budget or lower our fees for the lawyer.

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I do a lot of stuff over the last week. I know I was emailing back and forth. You guys saw all of that stuff I got from LC. So, um it's all out there and it's pretty

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free. meeting. What do they call a submitted ticket? >> And I'm not I'm not we're not sitting here pointing blame or anything. >> I know I do the member link. I ask other ask other administrators. I do the local

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people first and then I ask the other administrators and I do cities. So it depends on what it is. >> Yeah. >> So the three examples just heard mention and that's why I wanted to add to the agenda is the data, the dog and the

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power all were brought to him and I don't think any of that deserved his attention and that's my personal opinion so I'm very open to the council's opinion on that but that could have been a conversation here it could have been a conversation with Chris which the duck thing was like we could tackle that but

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it sounds like it was already pursued I don't think that those things are worth us pursuing the wire unless we have more than just a little more behind what we're going to so how do we how do we get

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How do we put more filter on that? Do we ask that you go to Chris before you go to the lawyer? >> You know, maybe me, maybe everybody. Um, you know, I don't I don't know what the right answer is because like I said, I just use League of Minnesota Cities for

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everything. Um, and just like um just like they have, you know, they reach out to people. I've got two people I work with that are on city boards that are St. Paul and cities

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and down south. So I ask a lot of questions >> just like you kind of reach out to your other administrators and stuff too. Those are good filters. Those are awesome resources. >> But I think for ordinances you can I when you say ordinances are you saying that Bob's writing are ordinances?

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>> No. People attempt to make sure that they are legalities of the ordinances we have those are things that just need what we can kind of decide is like ordinances can get

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>> help quite a bit out to other I asked that question to other people to see what they paid and I got anywhere from a flat fee of $700 a month up 27,000 a year of cities in our

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age. >> I mean, not of our age, of our size. >> That's how much they pay or >> Yeah, that's what they're paying what they're paying for line item budget from legal also includes $6,000 for the county

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prosecutor's office. So, that whole $30,000 isn't just, it's including the prosecution. >> Um, we do play flat fee. >> Okay. So, how much of the 30 is the prosecution then per year?

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>> 712 just under it's just under 6,000. I mean again my personal opinion I would like to see concern expressed to Chris or mayor or if Chris isn't around your acting mayor to filter through to just have buy in just to get like

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bounce it off one of our people before we escalate to um the wire for just a little bit of filtering to that because we have the potential to say even five grand is a nice potential. Um all right. So that is my suggestion and you guys

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can take it from the bill that just just keep and you're finding more resources like you described. That's very helpful. >> Okay. So, do we need to make a motion on that? >> I don't think we need to make a motion

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as much as we need to just pay attention to it. Um, you know, we've already said, you know, reach out to us. You know, reach out to your because making a motion is a guaranteed thing. Um, but she's already reaching out to other communities, but we're just asking reach

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out to us a little bit more, too. So, um, >> pretty much just make a lawyer our last resort. Yeah, that's >> I don't see any big things coming up, you know. >> But yeah, I mean the the the joint

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powers agreement is we're finally done with that. >> We don't have any tiffs coming up that you know for businesses. Nobody's going that route. Um it just I mean the biggest thing that we have moving

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forward now is um one the CIP but that's going to be something that is months. >> So awesome though, >> right? And then the other thing is the uh the thing you just mentioned. Yeah. The codification. So but we won't get into the codification because it's going

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to take them months to complete that. So we shouldn't see any expenses that we've not really budgeted kind of for. >> Yeah. >> At least for a year down payment because they they want some skin in the

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>> game. Well, and that's that's understandable, but getting our lawyer involved is >> for sure. >> So, >> okay. Thanks. No, I like that idea. Thank you. Um,

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anything else for new business? No, no, no. Um, committee updates. Anybody got any committee updates? >> Um, on the gas commission, um, we have one person that has, uh,

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expressed, um, interest in the gas commission. Uh Kyle is meeting with him on Monday. Um however, if that does not go through, then the city will get involved and have

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to appoint somebody else to sit in on that because they can only sit vacant for so long. Um it's just not a lot of people are interested. the person that he will be coming in and talking to him this next Monday is a customer, not to

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be confused with somebody that lives within our community. So, you don't have to live within our community to be on the gas and the gas commission runs from I don't know how far south it goes, but north it goes all the way up to Keith Carlson. >> Okay. So, Keith Carlson all the way up

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on 53. What? Two miles of 53 I think. 53 >> 53 the junction between um six and well >> right >> into red and 53 being your left as you go into red um

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>> comes out by house ward >> I think it's about a mile or two up the road that's where the main hub >> okay same thing >> um but it's up there on the left hand side that's the main

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the main hub for everything coming in from. So, >> okay. >> Um, so there's that. Um, they had an inspection this last week and everything went phenomenal. So,

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really good. Really good. So, um, just a couple spots that they had to fix with, uh, ventilation. They had to extend that pipe. So other than that, really good. Really good. Um

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>> a question that I know we get the yearly budgeting. Are we able to see that monthly? You get that in the minutes or >> the gas? You can. >> Yeah. >> I just want to kind of look at it. I don't really see it much. So I just want you guys to see it with the rest of our financial stuff. >> Yeah. It's a lot of their I mean because

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we don't we as a city don't pay into that. >> No. No. It's good to see where they're sitting. >> Yeah. I mean they're sitting they're sitting pretty good. They got their one big loan that they had off there, which obviously that big loan was the one that ran from halfway down six into town to

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make it from what 2 in to a 4 in I think or 4 in. >> Yeah. So, um yeah, they're they're doing they're doing pretty good. >> So, but that's all I got for the guys side of it.

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>> I do have to run. So, Peace. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Michael. Uh, the public works report is in there. Anybody got any

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questions on that? Looks like they did that line repair on the 6th. Pretty good. Administrator comments other than the datab practices policy adoption. Anything?

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council comments. >> How is the call log thing going? How is that experience going for you guys? >> People that are complaining and swearing and all that good stuff >> complaints

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complaints since then you guys got support on that. >> And then um I take it that the dog incident was not a phone call but more of a verbal incident and how it was reported to us.

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>> Yeah. You get a visitor, right? >> Oh, that was after but it initially started with phone call. >> Oh, did it? >> Not not the the >> complaint complaint. The complaint. >> Yeah. And then we shared with them the ordinances trying to share with them the

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information. Sounds like a way to >> educate I think was the correct answer >> trying to educate them. It wasn't a we're not pointing fingers. It's somebody the way I took it was somebody was may have been newer to town. They got a dog complaint. Let's go and

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educate instead of pointing fingers. And >> it was suggested at last year's meeting to maybe do that. So I tried it. So when you went into the house, it was the same person that came down here in Calgary. >> It was the husband. >> Yeah.

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>> The wife was there. >> The husband came down within 20 minutes. So the husband wasn't there when he was not there. >> So she shared the wife must have shared it with the husband. The husband got angry and came down.

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>> And I and I did talk to Kyle. Um and it sounds like Yeah, it we didn't do anything wrong. >> Okay. >> So, it's just I mean, we're alive, but anger type

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thing. So, uh or mis information not on our part is the best way I could probably put it is just we tried to do it. We tried to educate, which I guess that's what we're here for. I mean, I would much rather, you know, take Deputy

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Sullivan, for instance, he would probably much rather educate somebody on the law than him having them up first. >> That's why they have warnings. You know, I don't look at it as a warning. I look at it as this is education. Let's educate somebody. And I do that all the

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time with the ordinances. You know, um you educate these people. We've got a guy that runs his dog back by the I call it uh Great Lakes, but it's not Great Lakes. It's Excel. little substation right there. Well, that is not our

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property. That is Excel Energy property. Go left. It's our property. It's still city good you. If you want to run your dog without a leash, run it up the waterway. I guarantee that the farmers up there do not mind it. I've been doing

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it for seven years. Right. Educate. Well, a neighbor called and said, "I just yelled at some guy because he told me I needed to obey the leash law." I said, "Well, he is absolutely correct. You need to obey the leash law because

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you're on city property." So, it's just educating these these people because in years past that was not there. Nobody was educated. It was the wild wild west. People did what they wanted when they wanted to do it and now people are being held accountable for their actions. That's

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the way that we can put it is we as a council and the city need to help educate these people and I think what Lisa did that day Lisa and Jason I think was a prime example of let us educate instead of the point factors and we

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don't know what the spouse said that the husband and the trigger did >> and I think the helpful thing for us to know is community members do and like you and we we hear things and we want to make sure that we know the facts too and how things went down. So, it's helpful for us to know in these conversations

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too so we can support it and is always like he said, she said thing, but that's why you brought Jason with him and you might have a conversation. So, um it's nice to share. So, I encourage you to share when you have those experiences so we can help support. I guess an added

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benefit would there be a way to do this again to video that interaction >> not at the house here not there >> I don't think we could just go up random city work with the body >> you're on their property now

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>> that's why I asked Jason to just be the second I won't go by myself because of the He said she it could get turned around even more. >> My concern is too is having even you and Jason go in there and let's say this was

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a team incident when something got escalated. >> So you can videotape someone in Minnesota on their property. Correct me if I'm wrong. If you perceive that they are a threat. Is that correct? >> Pardon me. >> Yeah. I think I think if you can do it

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if you're perceiving that they're a threat to you. And if nothing else you state, >> right, is a one party state. I just think it's private property. >> I just think and and >> obviously when that happened I I do have a

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recorder on my desk just because of what has been transpiring over the last year just because conversations like this. >> Okay. So Okay. So, so this is what I hate to interrupt, but so we talked about the documentation,

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right? And so this has been going on for a year. You said a couple meetings ago that you've been, you know, this has been going on for a couple months. So like I think this has gotten worse and and when he came in, I was here. So

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that's why I didn't because there's a second person. So otherwise I would use the recorder because I am here sometimes and staff please at 3:30 >> but we can record audio here on those

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cameras but you have to go over turn I talked to Chris about that you have to go over you have to log in you have to go into configuration you have to turn it on and then there's no time >> so they don't a they don't record all

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the time audio and video It's uh video only because we have five cameras all around. >> So I think maybe it would be beneficial that while business hours are on if when we come in

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in the morning we just hit record audio and if it's not needed then we just delete it. >> Yeah. Well I did ask him if I did ask him if there was just >> delete that >> in the corner not the corner in that square. That's generally where all the

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action happens is like >> I bet. Yeah. >> So I asked them if there was some just audio only that could be up there and not tamper with all of the existing because he says well we can upgrade it.

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We can do this. I said what would it be? He's getting back to me. >> Just a up in that little square entry. >> I think that would be good. Um and I'm not trust me I'm not trying to spend any more money. We have to >> people's safety is numerous and we need

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to >> it's your safety, Lori safety, Kyle's safety. >> This is seeming like this is it seems like we've been a lot it's making me worried. So a I know there are cameras that you don't have to log in anything. They will continuously record audio,

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video, zoom around in circles and there is um he and Chris knowing that we're money conscious that he doesn't want to suggest something. So, he's looking into

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>> and even if it's just no video, >> but just a mic that hangs down from the >> something just something >> we have. I mean, we have everywhere. >> We'll be able to foyer request that audio, we'd have to

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have that available. >> Correct. But what I'm saying is like we would not delete something We would delete something if nothing was there >> like >> and the cameras automatically they don't >> Yeah. Just like my cameras at my house

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they after seven days it dumps everything unless I go in there and I do every single day I look at >> is there an incident? Okay, I'm going to save this but let's dump everything else. So um >> times I do look at it

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somebody's dumping something or something. >> Right. So, that was kind of my thing that I was going to bring up was I think we need to look into it. It sounds like you're already talking to Chris into something in this building that audio records in that area. And I think by

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doing so, we may that's where I was trying to see. We may have to post it. >> Says this the premises that does this too. So, >> okay. >> All right. I don't suggest I guess if we

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have interactions, like you said, we do audio to just record conversations. >> Well, and and like I said, Kyle was here, so that's why I didn't even pick up the recorder because otherwise I would. >> I guess my more concern is like when you went to the house to just give him a

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heads up or what to audio record those conversations so when he comes in, listen what my wife told me. Well, we have video audio recording if you'd like to listen to it. This is what we did >> and that might not be received fall. >> No, >> I mean obviously >> at that point I think mail it to them. I

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mean I know we were trying to get I know we were trying to do something there. So I commend you for that. Um I want I want that to work but it may be back there on this a little bit. We can just mail it to them next time or ask the sheriff if they will go down just talk to them not issue a ticket. I don't know. or just be

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present because I think that they would probably be more than willing to be present when you talk to somebody. Again, it's education, >> right? >> Um, so I don't I think that's good point. >> You're not comfortable. Please know that you can always talk to

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>> I'm okay with it. I don't want >> you call me. >> I don't want anybody doing this to come to me because >> they should be good to you. She said, "Who do I know that?" And I said, "I'll take it."

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>> Nobody kind of said, "I'll take it." >> Yeah. And Kyle said pretty much that same exact thing. So, >> okay. >> Well, thanks for trying. >> Yeah. >> All right. Well, that was my comment, too. So, thank you guys for trying to

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>> um public comment from any of our guests. Nothing. Nothing. >> You got nothing. >> All right. You have a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll make a motion. >> All in favor? >> There was a key change.

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Let me rephrase that. There was a key change >> that happened. >> They kicked it out.