There >> we will call the >> November meeting to order and we will start with the pledge of allegiance. >> Pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the republic for it stands
indivisible. Just of note, our county administrator is out of state and he is joining us online today um for any comments that he may have on the uh uh agenda.
Are there any disclosures of interest? Seeing none, previous board meeting minutes. >> Move to approve. >> Second move and second we approve the minutes as presented. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I.
>> I. >> Oppose the same. Motion carries. Um review the agenda. And just to make note that under the consent agenda, there was a correction in the clerical updates for uh the abatement list that is now was
posted I think yesterday after they had found that. So that's uh updated. Is there anything else to the agenda? There are no changes. Chair. >> All right. Thank you, Scott. Uh any Is there a motion?
>> Motion to approve the agenda. >> Second. >> Second. We approve the agenda. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Oppose. The same. Motion carries. Now the consent agenda with that correction. There are two items under there. the
abatements and then the final contract payment for CASA 24 grading uh near Canon Falls. >> Move the consent agenda. >> Second. It's >> been moved and seconded. We approve the consent agenda as presented. All those
in favor say I. >> I. I. >> Oppose the same. Motion carries. Reports from department sheriff's office. Morning. >> Morning. >> How we doing? >> Good. >> Good.
>> Well, today I come before you as emergency services captain representing public safety throughout Cody County. Tomorrow, as you may or may not know, is GIS day. GIS day was an event that first took place in 1999 recognizing the work
of our GIS teams and what GIS data to does for us on a day-to-day basis. Come on up here, GIS team. To my right, to my right here, flanking my right is your your Good Hugh County GIS team. Um, it's important that we recognize these
folks today, and I'll do that by just reading this. So, I'm sure Commission or uh Administrator Arnerson there uh can can follow along with us. So, as part of GIS day, I want to take a moment to recognize and highlight the work of good county's geographic information systems
GIS team that play a critical role in supporting public safety across our county. Our GIS team provides far more than maps. They deliver vital tools that enhance our ability to respond effectively in emergencies, manage resources efficiently, and keep our
communities safe. This work impacts nearly every facet of our operations, including 911 dispatching and response. Maintaining records, address points, road center lines, jurisdictional boundaries ensures that our public safety telecommunicators can quickly
locate callers and route first responders without today. Some of you have heard of NextGen 911. We're routing calls using that technology today. In addition, their work provides us incident mapping and analysis, providing situational awareness during critical
incidents through real- time mapping and spatial analysts. Um, resource allocation, supporting fire, EMS, and local law enforcement with datadriven planning for response coverage and resource placement. You know, we often see this used in our our rep response
and our rep drills. So a huge and then certainly inter agency coordination supplying this GIS data to local regional and state partners to improve interoperability and emergency planning. The precision, timeliness, and innovation of our GIS team directly
improves the quality and effectiveness of our public safety services. Their behind-the-scenes contributions often go unseen, yet they are essential to the safety and well-being of Goodyu County residents, businesses, and visitors. So on behalf of the sheriff's office and
emergency services countywide, I want to extend our appreciation to the GIS team, their dedication and commitment to excellence. Their work exemplifies the collaborative spirit that Good Hugh County that makes Good Hugh County a safer place to live, work, and visit.
And so with that, just join me in a round of applause for this this team. Jeeoff, if you have something to say, by all means. Thank you, board. >> Thank you, >> Chad. Could you introduce them for us? >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> Start with Jeff. Come on up, Jeff.
Fblad. We have Jeff, we have Allan, Brian, and Leanne. All of them are providing this data to us. And I know it's easy to think, oh, it's just another data set. But kind of like I I I stand up in front of many crowds and preach about how important our our dispatchers are. And I call them the
first first responders. They use the same type of tools. our folks in the field that are responding to specific locations and not only that are setting up command posts are using mapping skills using the things that GIS puts together. It's often as I mentioned one of those unseen uh tools that is used
more frequently than the public sees or even the responders in the field know um GIS mapping is going to continue to change just like all of our technologies continuing to change on a daily basis. So um I I thought it was important to to highlight their work. Thank you.
Thank you very much. >> How do you want it, Nick? >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Good morning. I would just like to thank the sheriff's department for the nice acknowledgement and the GIS team for
their dedication and hard work. and uh we're department's very proud to make Goodyu County a safe place. So, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I think as I as I look at what GIS has
done for Goodyu County, I I the one thing that kind of sticks out is we built it I think we started building it for internal use. Um, and I don't think there's a department in
the county that doesn't rely on GIS for stuff. And then it became the public uh, use of it. And the public, it uses it all the time. And I constantly am hearing about
>> um, the GIS and and our our mapping system and how it's used out in the county for a numerous amount of people. And it is, it saves everybody time. Um, but the work that we do internally is really critical and what what they're
doing for dispatch and what you know, all of that um is just critical to all of our departments working really well and it probably makes our departments work better together because of it. So, uh, kudos to to the whole team.
I don't know how many years there is between you, but there's more than five. I know that collectively you have a lot and you bring a lot to this county. So, thank you very much. >> And and I want to kind of echo what uh Brad said. I I kind of believe that the
people I talk to in the county more than anything else on the county website use the GIS. And um um I don't know if I've ever heard a complaint about it. Most people are just really pleased and glad to have it available. And so I think it's a service to the constituents which
I very much appreciate. >> The only downfall is it's so damn good that the people uh when we do a road project, they figure out every little road to take around the road project instead of following the detours. So um but thank you. Thank you very much and
thanks Chad for bringing that forward. >> All right, next uh finance and taxpayer services. Um, we're going to look at our proposed fee schedule for 2026 and uh after we get it presented, we'll have a
public hearing on it and then go from there. Welcome, Teresa. >> Good morning, commissioners. So, before you hear, we have the proposed 2026 fee schedule. Um the management team encourages a yearly
review and approval of the fees to reduce the number of public hearings throughout the year for fee approvals. The proposed changes are in red on the attached um PDF. And just to note, there are a number of
new fees. Um the biggest ones this year are the wind and solar system fees. There questions on any of the schedule. Did we not have court services before? That's all in red. >> No, there were none.
>> The those fees were not on the fee schedule itself. Those fees uh my understanding has have always been there, but they were not actually on the fee schedule in the past. I >> I just have a general question. with the
change in the fees, was it trying to reflect the cost? So, for example, with the research, I think it was $40 an hour or was there some other method by which um the fees were changed kind of what was the philosophy in in the changes?
>> So, the philosophy was first of all, there are many of these that are controlled by statute. >> I understand that change. >> Yep. The ones that are changed, we try to reflect based on what it costs the county. >> Yes. >> To administer these programs.
>> Thank you. That that makes sense to me. >> Any else? >> Not. Is there a motion to open a public hearing? So moved. >> Second. >> Been moved and second we open a public hearing. >> Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I.
>> I. oppose the same. Motion carries. We are in an open public hearing if anyone wants to speak to the 20 26 proposed fee schedule. Second time, does anyone want to speak
to the proposed fee schedule? Third and final time. Does anyone want to speak to the proposed fee schedule? Move we close public hearing. >> Second. >> Been moved and second we close public
hearing. Any further discussion hearing? None. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed the same. Motion carried. Um, a couple things that I was glad to see put in there around
land use that, um, I don't think was in there before. if you get a after the fact permit that we're going to double the fee and I think that's appropriate
um for not following our fee our uh schedule of the only one I really and I probably should have said this before was the mail ballot fee is that set by state >> that's not set by state that's one
That's also something that we've historically charged, but it was not on the fee schedule itself. So, we added that on there for clarity, and it's only for one jurisdiction in the county. >> Yeah. I think if we had a jurisdiction that had a higher number of
voters in it, that might not be suffice. >> I'd agree with that. we'd have to um address it probably at that time, but there is a um it does take a while. It's if somebody wants to to go on to that, it's not an immediate. So, we wanted to
add it to the fee schedule just to make it clear in case there is any turnover anywhere that that we are charging this fee. And for other jurisdictions, if they did want to join in and do mail balloting, then they would be able to we'd be able to refer to we, you know, it's not a free service. And I and I
wonder if if we did little research so we're prepared that if you can set different tiers based on the number of voters because to do it for Bel is what 100 voters at the most 80 some 90 some
maybe 120 I don't know versus somebody that has a,000 or 1,500 or 2,000 voters. Those are vastly different costs. So maybe do a little research um and see if there's a way we could set tiers in
there. Um I wouldn't want to put it so high that a Belchchester or a Dennis couldn't do it yet. I don't want $600 for something that really costs
3,000. So just maybe for future reference we could look at that. >> Yep. We'll look into it. >> Right. Any other questions on the fee schedule? >> Not. Is there a motion to approve?
>> Motion to approve the fee schedule. >> Second. >> Second. >> Been moved and second we approve the fee schedule as proposed. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I.
>> Oppos. Motion carries. All right. Human resources continue retention committee proposals. My bad. >> What's that? >> I did. um to support a $15,000 training
budget for supervisors and managers as well as support uh allocation of an $80 credit for employees for county logo. Uh this came to me as uh the chair and vice chair had met and wanted to discuss this with uh with the board. So I just bring
that before you >> questions. Go ahead. Can you tell me how well received it was the $80 credit per employee for county logo wear? >> Very wellreceived. Um I think Stacy
could probably tell you best, but uh we took great joy in playing Santa Claus and delivering uh the logo wear to the employees. I think it's something that the board might want to participate in as well, but uh it was very well received. >> Excellent. Thank you.
I I I believe separate from this fund, we set aside some money to support the two meals that are hosted each year. >> That is correct. >> Okay. And I think >> uh the cost for that is listed at the bottom of this. Okay. >> But that is also an additional item, but
that is already ongoing. >> Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. >> Words wishes. >> I have one more question. >> Go ahead. on the money for supervisor training.
Can you tell me a little bit about what was done last year? And if we don't I mean since this hasn't been approved yet, you may or may not know what you're going to do for next year, but can you tell me how it was spent last year for supervisor training? >> Sure. U we did a bunch of different
trainings. Um we kind of looked at it doing quarterly, but we ended up doing more than that. Uh first quarter we did training several trainings on the hiring process internally at Good Hugh County and how we do that with the managers. Just kind of a recap of the direction we want them going and in their hiring
process. We did the annual safety training. We just count that in. We did a DISC communications assessment. Um that was a budget item that costs I think about seven or 8,000. Um, it's a commu communications assessment kind of like a MyersBriggs where it's you look
at the personalities of yourself as well as the people you supervisor and how you can better communicate and receive communication from them. Uh, we've also did uh Spanish one and Spanish 2 training uh for uh employees that wanted that training. We recently did uh Sand
Creek uh had Sand Creek come in. Um there was a cost of that. It was a conflict and moving beyond conflict um training. There were three sessions for that that we recorded and have also been able to send out. And then coming up tomorrow and next week, we are doing uh
internal training on leaves of absence for uh FMLA and the new PMFL um so that we can teach our managers on how we're going to deal with that in the coming year. Beyond that, we haven't looked at next year's uh schedule on that, but um we the survey that's going out on the
Sand Creek is asking supervisors and managers what else they would like to hear and see in the future. So we are seeking input on that. >> Thank you very much. >> And and do you also get input on how helpful people thought it given? >> That's part of the survey as well.
>> Okay. And so far, what have the responses been? >> Uh we're getting we got good response on the DISC assessment. We haven't gotten it back on the the Sand Creek one yet. I see. I see. >> But I think people felt really good about the Desk Creek one and and want to maybe take the next step on that as well.
>> Thank you. Yeah, we need to take action if we want to take action. >> I'll move to approve. >> Second. >> Move and second we approve the continue the retention committee proposals as
presented. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Oppos. Motion carries. Personnel Committee. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Tom.
>> Susan and I met yesterday with uh sheriff and the attorney and the committee. I'll let Jessica lead us through that. >> Good morning, commissioners. As as uh
Commissioner Anderson stated, the personnel committee met yesterday to review and consider proposals for 2026 salary for the sheriff and for the county attorney. Um they considered those requests commensurate with the
applicable statutes about um setting the salary and reviewed performance um qualifications and so on in in doing that. And I think um you made a recommendation about where the salary for those two positions next year and an
increase of $6,500 annually for each of those elected positions. Is that correct? >> Questions? >> Um, I'll just make one comment. Um, I know that Brad wanted to choose a number and not a percent, but I just was
curious about the percent and so that came out to about 3.5%. And it would have been slightly different for the sheriff and for the um county attorney. And I think I use the county attorney's number because it was in front of me.
>> Questions? >> I have a question. We received a note from DDA on where we're at in our percentages in our area counties. >> Um was that taken into consideration on the on the uh talks yesterday? I mean, we're
I mean, if we're setting a goal of, you know, 115% and we have positions that are extremely over that, was that considered? >> Well, first I I'm just going to caution.
Um, they're not in the pay schedule >> and we're not supposed to consider them as part of the pay schedule because they're elected officials. So, it's a it's a separate kind of consideration. So, I think that's that's a caution that
we we don't draw it back to that when we talk about um I think we did talk a little bit about um surrounding counties and and some of the comparables and we also have to remember that we
have a nuclear plant. We have a significant um gaming that's going on in the county with the Prairie Island um reservation and their their casino. Those are very
different than any of those other counties and and we have a hydroelectric dam. So, we have there are differences. I'm not going to say that those are monumental and change things, but they do. It is a different
It's a different level that we have to carry in those positions than if you just did sheriff work. So, I think there's a there is a difference. So, that's probably justifying a little bit of the
differentiation in ours versus some of the others. Well, and and my thinking was a a little bit different than Brad's because I kind of felt like, well, we are where we are, okay? And and we got there for reasons that we all went
through before. And so, I wasn't so much questioning those numbers as putting my thought into, well, what's reasonable to where do we go from here? And I agree there's unique things about uh Goodyu County, but I think every
county makes an argument for their unique things. And so it's not that I don't think Goodyu County is unique, but I'm sure that if we talked to any other county, they'd give us a list of 10 things that were unique about them.
So that didn't sway me as much, I guess. Go ahead. But you said as a number you took that and I don't know is that comparable. So it was over 3%. >> Three and a half. It was three and a half. Oh well I I I don't I mean if for Steve's it was three and a half for Marty's it'd be a little less than that
because his number is slightly higher. >> How did you drive at the dollar amount then? >> I asked Brad that. >> So I'll let him explain that. Well, you know, we listened to both Steve and and Marty and their discussions about what
they what their department's going through, what it's been through in the last year, and and where they're going in the future, and I applied a number, how we got there. Could it have been $2,000? Yeah, it
could have. this is where this is what our recommendation we kind of um agreed to bring that forward to the board. It's the board's decision to set it. So >> yeah, and certainly there are other ideas that would be perfectly
reasonable. Um and so if you guys have some other thoughts or ideas, please know what they are. >> I guess I'm looking at our our number for next year in the budget. If we are looking at a 17% when are we going to
start saying okay we have to do something small you know start or a small you know amount but you know and I understand like you say Brad they're not on the pay
scale but we do have to have some sort of guidance and I think DDA is probably that best guidance for what's going on in our area. Um, so I, you know, another thing that's going to have to come up is commissioner salaries. I
mean, is that something that, you know, we're so far under, which I have no problem with, but you know, and then on the next side, we have some that are way over where we kind of projected. So, where's where are we as a board? Where do we want to sit with our consistency
and uh, you know, make decisions from there? And my thought I mean I we have to have some rationale what if we're going to try to stick to 3% or across the yeah I don't know how we came up with a number if it's over three
we're elected officials we know what it's going to pay if we get in there for the money they're elected officials I I don't know what their requirement on a daily I mean they're there every day are they there I don't picking a number out of it I would say hold them to at least 3% or less
again they're elected officials they know what the job entails, what they want to do, what they want to put into it. Little civic duty. We can all I mean it it it's not a bad it's not a bad paid paying job. So they know what they're getting into.
I wouldn't approve that dollar amount if we held it to 3% or something more structured. If we're going to hold that to other department heads and other staff that we're going to stick to, >> though they're not on the grid, having some consistency
out some things. >> That fair enough to say >> my Yeah, I don't Brad identified how he came up with a not necessarily a swag number, but I don't know. Yes, some consistency. So, they know and then we
know what there is. So, >> comments, >> my opinion. Um I >> So so I again I did this with Steve's salary because it's on the page that comes up first and uh 3% on his would be uh $5,722.
And um I think Steve that even though that's not quite how we're supposed to do it, I think your request was actually to get the same uh cost of living adjustment as other employees. I I believe >> it it was. Yes. So, that was my request
was just to be given the same >> um wage adjustment that the other employees in the county would be given. >> I didn't know what that number was at the time, so I didn't propose a number, right? >> Um whatever the board approves. Obviously, I'm happy with whatever salary the board sets today.
>> Um but in in my thinking, I just wanted to be treated similarly to the other employees in the county. >> Yes. And with regard to the DDA report, if the board members recall, I did ask Tesha about that wage philosophy and I think her answer with regard to my
question um was that we were within the county's pay philosophy with our salaries. Um so I think that was answered commissioner um yesterday by by Tesa. Was >> Marty, was your ask the same as Steve's? cuz you just wanted 3%.
I guess I shouldn't come forward and say the dollar amounts or criticize anybody about you know what the job is for and just if you ask for three yes I think that's legit. So >> yes for >> if the number for the same as everybody else is getting and I don't want to say that you guys are asking for more >> getting less. So
>> 6.3 we discussed one lang which was a um point that the elected officials don't get to cash in vacation time or anything for HSA savings account that other department heads do and will continue to do. Um, understanding that
that was a request from last year that I that I received and um the thought was that that that amount of money would just continue on with with my salary um and other department heads can and can
can still get that money. I um I don't know if I'm totally on board with that that philosophy, but I understand it. Um but but one thing you that's close enough yet. Um
I was fine with with uh Commissioner Anderson's proposal. Um but I uh I actually when we're done here, I have another proposal that I requested yesterday. So I hope we're going to be able to talk about that. Um if if if 3% is what it is, then that's
what it is. Just a curiosity on your vac are you but you guys aren't allowed any specific vacation time at all? >> No. It's >> like being a farmer or being self-employed or a truck owner operator of a trucker if you ain't working. I mean as a truck driver you don't get
paid unless you're working and you're getting paid all through long. So if you want to take a month's vacation, >> right, >> or two weekends off, it's entirely up to you as long as but that's as an elected official that's your direction that your department is functioning and if you want to be there tomorrow, you can be if
you don't need to be. >> Correct. >> You don't have to be and you knew that going in about the >> So you don't bank any as a sheriff. You don't bank any insurance, paid sick time or nothing. So >> no, >> but you also don't have a limit on it >> of how many hours you have to work. So,
>> y >> like being self-employed. >> I think the uh the the number had to do with um department heads be being able to bank um I think 80 hours a year of
unused vacation time into their uh retirement savings. And last year, and Brad's memory for things is better than mine, but maybe it'll get better as I've done this longer. um that both the sheriff and
the um uh county attorney's wage was adjusted to reflect that. So they got in and that number was right around $7,000. And so Brad's point was we already put that money in this in your salary and we
can't make it be 14,000 this year and 21,000 the next and 28,000. but that that number would go up by the same percent as everybody else's. Um, so that was kind of where the big discrepancy was. And at least, um, I thought Brad's
logic was correct. Um, and I don't want to put Lucas too much on the spot, but we confirmed whether he thought that was correct. And my understanding was that he did think that was correct, that the numbers were correct, that uh, we were thinking about the math correctly. Is
that fair enough? >> Yes. >> Well, another part was not not necessarily a vacation payout, but with other department heads getting the um general wage adjustment along
with their step increase um puts most of them between four to 7%. and that's almost on a yearly basis until they reach um step 12. So, we're obviously not on a step anymore. So, we just wanted to be
consistent with continuing to to get that and compete with the rest of the department is and that was a little bit of why I went from 3% to a little bit higher was because there are it is different.
Although I also said you're not you're not statutoily department heads. That's a county function that we've asked you to be department heads and you've agreed and we're absolutely happy that you are and that you're you know the way we do
budget you're involved. You're it's very um we work across departments really well whether we're elected officials or whether we're um appointed people and we appreciate that and that really makes our county um work better. So, I don't
want to upset that part. Uh, I certainly appreciate the work you all do on on that that stuff. And that I mean, those are some of the reasons why I suggested it be a little more than 3% because there are no there are no steps
involved. >> But, but I think uh it's true that that's part of being an elected official. >> It is. It is. I'm not I'm not going to disagree with that. >> Not just at the county level, but at the state level, at the federal level. Uh, >> correct. Right. Yep. >> And I I don't know that this is true,
but I sort of believe the senator who's a first year senator and the senator who's been there 30 years, their salary is the same. >> Probably. >> Yeah, I think so. >> What's your wishes? Well, if I understand this correctly,
you're suggesting the 3% increase for both the sheriff and the county attorney. Is that correct? >> Um, yep. They're listed separate. We should probably do them independently of each other.
>> Oh, all right. Well, for the county attorney's request, can I take it out of >> You can do them in the order you want to do them. I guess >> for the county attorney's request, I
make a motion that stays with the salary that he had and a 3% increase. Correct. >> I'll second that motion. >> Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I
>> oppose. Motion carries. Sheriffs. I will echo Linda's motion for the sheriff's at 3% general wage adjustment for sheriff's salary. There >> a second. >> I'll second.
>> Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I >> oppose. Motion carries. Thank you. >> And you wanted to address one other issue. >> Yes. >> Okay.
>> So, in the letter that the county board sent me and Steve requesting salaries, they also asked um to provide information for any positions in your office for which you are requesting salary increase. I haven't submitted anything like this in
in in my seven years as a sheriff, but I feel very strongly about the following recommendation. I'm writing to formally request a pay increase for Chief Deputy John Hunet, who currently serves as a grade at grade 119 step 9. This recommendation is made in recognition of his exceptional performance, steadfast
leadership, and significant responsibilities he continues to manage within the sheriff's office. Chief Hanukki has consistently demonstrated excellence across every measurable category of performance as outlined in his last supervisory evaluation. His leadership, initiative,
and critical decision-making have been instrumental in in maintaining efficient and professional operations within our office. John is my right-hand man. Someone who brings not only problems but also wellthoughtout solutions at the same time ensuring our office functions
at the highest level of efficiency and integrity. In addition to his regular duties, uh Chief Hanei has taken on a significant oversight responsibilities related to the XL Energy nuclear plant and we are preparing for a HAB drill this year. takes a significant amount of time along
with our emergency management. Given John's 25 years of outstanding service to Goody County, his proven leadership record, and the critical scope of his work, including his ongoing involvement with Excel Energy, I strongly recommend that he receive a step increase from grade 119 step 9 to grade 119 step 12.
Um, this isn't a grade increase. Uh we we tried to appeal that last year with DDA and I truly believe and I still contend that John's position should be a grade 120. Um but that's not the case and that's not what I'm asking
for. I'm just asking for a two two three-step raise um to get him to step 12. Thank you for the consideration. Okay. Um well obviously it wasn't on the agenda
so we're not going to act on it today just so you know that. Um but we I think we need to go back and look at personnel policy and follow the procedures and personnel policy. Not that not that I'm I know John's a very very very talented
person that works very very hard and I I totally understand that but we also have to kind of follow a policy. So, I think we need to go back to policy, look at what the avenues are, and Susan and I as personnel committee will
will have to take a look at that and make some recommendations if there's an avenue for us to make a recommendation. And it um and I think that's how we have to handle it because it's going to be farreaching across the county if we do
oneoffs. And I think we just need to make sure we can follow some policy to do it. So it's not it just we just need to take it and look at it that way. >> The the thing that came up that that I wasn't aware of is I was surprised it came up yesterday and then Marty said it
was basically written into the information that he got that that was the procedure to make the appeal. And I I think Jessica contacted DDA and got some information from them. And what I thought is that normally I don't think
we would do an appeal out of sequence. We would do it as part of the process of when appeals are done. But given that it was written into uh the information that he was given, it seemed like we'd still want to go through the same procedure, but perhaps there was reason to say,
"Okay, if that's the information he got, we need to be willing to look at it out of the usual timing." But I agree with Brad. we really want to have a procedure we we stick with because otherwise at every board meeting we'll be having um
legitimate reasons. I don't mean that they're not legitimate, but reasons that these are things are coming up. And I I think we want our policy to handle most of these issues. So, um, I I would be in favor of it being reviewed out of sequence because of what was written
into the information that Marty got, but to still follow the same procedure we do for looking at this. >> When I think about what our policy states as far as job reclassifications, you know, it talks about ongoing maintenance and that being the initial trigger, but then out of sequence, you
know, we look at if there's been a substantial change to someone's job duties. And you know, in Marty's report here, he's articulated um some additional responsibilities when it comes to um the the drill and and those um associated responsibilities. And so I
think, you know, as as Commissioner Bcher has stated, you know, it's been flagged in this report and it's been articulated that um there may be some change in job duties and generally that is a trigger for us to um review and and potentially reconsider. And so certainly we can um start that process and and
bring it back in the future. >> And would John need to I don't know how you uh request an appeal, but would he need to do that? >> General So there is an appeal form that that a person would fill out. >> Um and we'll work with DDA on which um documentation that they would like in in
general when jobs are reviewed. There's kind of a short form that says there's not much that's changed with my job description. And then there's a long form that really unpacks all of the v various duties and responsibilities and authority of the of the position. Um,
and then once the job has been graded, then there's an appeal form that a person would articulate. Here's perhaps what was missing in the job description or that they felt wasn't considered appropriately. And so, like I said, there's three different forms that could be completed. will work with DDA on
which one that they would like filled out. My initial inclination would be that that long form is probably what we would look at having completed to make sure that we have a full idea of the scope of the position and what's changed so that it can be given full and due consideration.
>> Thank you, >> Linda. Sheriff, you're I mean I also have heard incredible comments about John and his work ethic. when you appealed uh the grade last year. Did was
all of this put into it at that time? >> I I don't I'd have to look back and what we we put into it. Linda, >> I don't know. >> Again, I'm not asking for a grade increase right now. I'm just asking for a a pay raise in that grade he's in to
recognize the extraordinary work that he does. That's it. And that's what you asked me to do. that's what I did and now apparently that's not what you wanted me to do. Um, so I'm a little confused. Don't put it in there next
year if you don't want us to ask. >> Thank you. I think that that's one of the other things that came up in our discussions um yesterday is some of the question the question around budget and that and I
think in part of our discussion and again this morning I had a discussion with Jessica about about going through and maybe revising how we ask or what we ask for questions and because
um sheriff and and the county attorney are so uh involved in our budgeting process. The question really isn't about what their budget is as much as it is about, you know, what do you foresee coming up?
What do you is there something that we're missing in the budget that you want to point out or something like that? So, I think, you know, that's where bringing up uh Deputy Haniki is is is legit in that.
So, I I agree with that. I think we have to use some sort of process to do it. Even if it's just adding uh moving someone farther down the the ladder, we have to have a process or we'll have it for we'll be doing it at every meeting.
And I think that's that's where we're at. So, it's definitely not a no. It's a we need to do more work. That's where we're at. Anything else on that? Anything from any other commissioners?
Thank you. Um, veteran ride program transfer Good morning. >> Good morning. >> Uh, in previous discussions, um, we had,
uh, I have control of this. I don't. Okay. Um, in previous discussions, we had talked about um transferring the county's ride program to the DAV and uh some of the consequences of that um and what that ride program would look like
for veterans with the DAV and what that ride program um looks like from um transferring from the county to the DAV. Um, so one of the things I'm asking for today is um is a vote on if we'd move forward with transferring that over um
as well as establishing a date where we stop taking rides and a date where we're not going to take any rides after that. The reason I say that the for the two different dates is that I've already got rides that have been requested out to January. Um, and if we uh stop asking
for rides, let's say January 1st, I will probably have rides going into March that have been requested from us. So, I wanted to have an end date on when we stop taking rides beyond that and then where we just the ride program just stops. So, um but it also sounds like
there might be some appetite for further discussions and maybe some some um uh nuance in how this goes. So, I'm I'm here to answer questions, present uh options, and go from there. So, if I understand what you're saying is you wouldn't want to
end it on December 31st because you already got rides for January. >> Yeah. >> So, you'd probably want to end it uh the end of January >> um or later. >> Right now, I've got the date as um we we won't take any more rides after December
1st and then we won't be providing rides um any further out than um January 1st. So, but essentially that 31 third 30th uh that 30-day period any rides that have been requested into January, I would give them a call and let them know like, hey, get give the DAV a call and let's schedule that ride and get that
get that going. So, um but we could go with December 31st and then no later than say March 1st um for for providing rides. Absolutely. So, >> are you still going to have the veterans ask you to call DAB for them?
>> Probably. And I'll be I'll be walking them through. Um, we actually printed out a list. Um, in the last year, we provided 149 veterans rides. Um, we before Liz left, she got that list together for us. We have phone numbers. We're going to give every single one of those veterans a call and walk them
through the process on how to request a ride from the DAV. Um, so that they understand how that process works so that they're each going to get a direct handoff. So, I'm not going to I'm not just going to say we're going to stop it and not give any guidance to these veterans. I'm going to make sure they understand what the process is going to look like. and and and I'm believing
that you felt what you proposed was reasonable, not taking uh adding new rides after December 1st and not providing rides after January 1st. >> I think that is Yeah, it's um it's actually pretty rare that we get a ride as far out as as mid January um or from from this time frame.
>> Um yeah, it's pretty rare. I think we only have one or two rides in January right now. >> You can you can manage that, I think you're saying. Yeah, >> absolutely. >> Okay. Um there is going to be um some some feedback from the veterans
>> of course >> on this. It's um it's going to be pretty pretty strong feedback. >> Um granted in the last year it's only been 149 veterans that we've provided rides for, but there's the other veterans are going to have feelings on on the matter. So I want to let you know that now. And
when you say 149, that's 149 unique individuals, not >> Yep. The last uh the last year, um I don't have my numbers directly in front of me. I believe we provided something along the lines of like 600 to 700 rides for those 149 veterans. Yep. >> Go ahead.
>> I can't remember if you answered this once before or not, but there are several other counties in Minnesota that use the DAV ride. >> Many other counties. Um uh I don't have the numbers directly in front of me. We're actually one of the last counties to be providing rides directly to our
veterans. >> Great. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> You think as time goes on, you think it's going to get better? I mean, once we come into the program, too, then there's going to be hopefully more volunteers driving for DAV. And I mean, they can better coordinate when all the
counties are doing it. Um, honestly, uh, right now any veteran in Goodyu County and pretty much anywhere in the state can request a ride from the DAV right now. Um, so it's a, um, essentially they're covering an area and then if a county is is covering their area more specifically, um, they're essentially
overlapping. Um, so um, right now a veteran from Goodyu County could absolutely request a ride from the DA and and they would they would see if they could provide it. No, >> it makes sense to me that there will be strong feelings and no one likes to see a service that they've uh are familiar
with and has been good for them changed. So I so I understand that. But I also think from the information you provided, there's every reason to believe that the DAV services are are good services and that that um it's a change. And again,
it's a change they're not asking for, but I believe there's every reason to believe veterans will continue to be able to get to their appointments and that the that's the real thing we're trying to make sure happens. >> Absolutely. um the the they'll have an
opportunity to to to sit in the van and and socialize with the other veterans in the van. >> Sure. >> Um and the driver as well. >> Um >> some will like it better, some won't like it as well. And once they're used to it, um my guess will be that a little bit like with some of the road things
that the um amount of upset will calm down. >> I imagine that would be the case. Yep. >> And if it isn't, maybe we have to reconsider. So, we're asked to put those dates in place
>> and confirm the the the transfer from from the county to the DAV. Yep. I >> I'll make a motion that we confirm the transfer from the county to the DAV and use the date suggested by uh the veteran service officer of the end date of
December 1st for accepting new rides and providing no rides after January 1st. Second. >> Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I.
>> The same. Motion carries. >> I have one more comment. Okay. >> Sorry. Once again, out in the community, I heard incredible comments about the VAS office and how you are attending to
the veterans services. And I thank you very much. I think that's probably the fourth or fifth comment just out of the comment. I mean out in the community that I haven't asked for. They've just made that comment. >> So, thank you very very much. >> Thank you >> both of you.
>> Absolutely. Thank you. >> All right. Couple of for your information and I'm not quite familiar. Are you um where this portion of the Goodyu pioneer trail is?
Is it towards Zumbroa end or is it does anybody know they didn't give us I mean they got it here but they didn't it didn't show what section it didn't give a parcel number it
>> not that we have anything to say about it but I just it would be nice to know where it is you familiar with that Jess at I am not. >> Okay. Well, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
>> We should have the GI >> Go ahead. >> I'm not either. >> Yeah. I I tried to look it up on a map, but I couldn't figure out where it is, but by the names, we could probably find that out. Our GIS people would have probably been able to point us right to
the right spot right now, but they're not here anymore. All right. Uh then you have project status report new or old business. Go ahead. >> I just wanted to compliment the sheriff's office once again. We had all
gotten an email from a or a copy of an email from a resident who spent time with us in the county jail and he was very complimentary about how he was treated, what he learned. And it's not
very often that you get compliments from somebody who is getting out of jail or out of prison. So I am very grateful to them. >> Any other new or old business committee reports? >> Got one. Go ahead. >> Um the PAC we met last night and the
board of adjustment BOA was right before us and this discussion was started and we asked Megan about it. Um, is this a okay plan to put those on the same night schedule for the whole year? You know, just for might help with staff, but
there's some instances where like last night there was 200 letters that went out for a um variance. So that can happen but I think in general we can occasional I don't know how many times it happens but someone comes to the
board of adjustment and comes to the PAC and then we also have a door monitor also that's hired that night. So if we could I guess I would just like to review that. I don't know if anybody has a problem with not having them on the same night. >> I don't think I don't think we set the
dates for those do we? Isn't the doesn't land use set the dates for those? I mean, they've been published what dates they are, but I think as a committee you can or as a group you can decide. >> Uh, Mr. chair. I believe that the staff
kind of sets the dates usually with the chairperson um >> calendar one year in advance that just says these are and it's mostly to give people an application deadline so that they know hey there's a date a meeting
coming up in March you have to have your application submitted by this date in April for example um or never mind April meeting for March application deadline Um, so I think what Commissioner Gres was
saying is that last night the feedback I heard um, and this wasn't an is this wasn't brought up by staff, but the feedback I heard was that the board felt like there could be some efficiency. Both the board of adjustment and planning commission felt there could be some efficiencies of having the meeting
on the same night. And so it's just um, an update for you all. And it, you know, in the past it maybe had something to do with, I don't know what time you start the board of adjustment. 4:30, 5:00. >> 5:00 is board of adjustment.
>> Yeah. And whether people could get that were on the committee could get here by that time without, you know, having to leave work. So they always schedule it. It used to be, I think when I was on it, it was 7:00 or something and it was based on who could get there when. If
you can do it, I don't I don't see any problem with scheduling on the same night. The only question I'll have is that means your application deadlines are going to all fall at the same time, which means
the workload and the workflow in the office may be a little bit backed up. >> Yeah. And we did talk about that a little bit last night with um you know, last night there were five total public hearings and they all happened on the
same night. So all the all the notices that go out in the mail, all the notices that go to the newspaper, all of those moving parts um happen consecutively. Um but like it just got brought up last night. I haven't really had a chance to
talk to my staff about it too much, but it seemed like the initial indication last night was, yeah, I mean this could be a way we could be more efficient with our time. And I think it's good for planning commission members and board of adjustment members to actually they
there's probably some crossover talk that happens >> because we do have we do have one member on both. >> Yeah. >> I think it's good that that happens also. >> Y and the the frequency that it's going to be a five meeting in one night. Does
that happen once a year? No. I mean public hearing. >> That's the exception, not the norm >> to have that many hearing uh public hearings. and then one month there may not be one or the other either. So it's it's kind of >> I think the most when I was on board of
adjustments we had 26 one night >> public hearings >> 26 appeals and public hearings. Yeah. What that was back in the day when there was something I don't remember exactly what the issue was but it was like 26
what? Yeah. That was a long meeting but I hope you don't have any of those. No, I I I don't Does anybody else have a problem? If they can schedule it and do it in one night at staff-wise, that's better. >> It's one less night away from family, so
I I'm all for it if it works. Any other committee reports? Go ahead. So, I'm on the um state task force for incarcerated women and girls. And one of
the things that I brought up was post-traumatic stress. Very often, women who are incarcerated, if they are veterans, um show or exhibit post-traumatic stress symptoms. And a lot of this came from the book that
Colonel Quist had handed out to all of us uh uh last month. So at any rate, I did talk to Justin and Marissa about considering a um putting together a proposal for a presentation at the conference that
we're going to be planning. It's not until April of 27. So there's a year and a half, a lot of time, but one on post-traumatic stress and women and girls incarcerated >> and they seemed receptive to it.
>> Yeah, go ahead. >> Absolutely. Uh this is a subject that's uh near and dear to both our hearts. Um, Marissa's actually has some experience working with um with um female veterans who have been incarcerated in Scott County and um she is looking and we are looking to um expand some of that work
into working with our um our folks here in in Goodyu County. So yeah, we'd love to do a presentation on that and then um also expand expand a little bit of of that work into the county. So yeah, absolutely. Thank you.
>> Anybody else? If not claims so moved. >> Second. >> It's been moved and second that we pay the bills. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. The same. >> Motion carries. Is there a motion to
adjurnn? And by the clock it says 5 after 9ine. We're doing really good today. It's really 5 after 10. Motion to adjurnn. Motion. >> Second. >> Got a motion to a second. And all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Oppos the same. Motion carries. Thank
you.