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building. plan for the proposed project providing essential site the approval of the grand zoning bylaws and applicable section 4.4 mixed use development
at 14 west street and known as map 3- and 3-86 in the town of Grand Mass. As the board knows [Music] to shutters.
[Music] public notice. Um, this is a site plan approval. So, it only requires a majority vote um approval for um approving a use that is allowed in that district. So, it it's up to you how you
want to proceed. you have the uh project proponents here um in addition to uh two comments that I received from the town that I can share with you after the presentation. Right.
Do you want to present that's necessary? >> Basically what was submitted? >> Yep. >> Um does anyone did everyone have a chance to look over the site camp? >> Yeah, that would be great. just yeah
that would be wonderful. I'm Tim Whitman with Begin Studio, the architect involvement project. Um, what is involved is a renovation of the north wing of the building. Essentially, as you enter on the far side at the back
building um to renovate that to turn into the space for uh town. um involved with that full abatement of that wing. Um provision of new complian bathrooms
dealing with accessibility. Um we have as part of that uh fire protection going in with above or tanks which provide water not only for the portion we're renovating but capacity for the entirety of the
building. so that it can get expanded in the future. As part of the project as well, it will be receiving the generator as well as an electrical service upgrade. Um, we are going to also rework repave
rather the existing sidewalks as well as the darking along that main entrance area. Essentially alongside where renovating and what's >> we're adding an accessibility feature
very last >> for the record. >> Does the board have any questions? >> What did we get back for comments so far from >> I can share them with you. So, I received two comments. Um, one from the
police chief. I'm very familiar with the design and plans for the West Street building. I don't see any issues that would concern the police department. Have any questions, please feel free to call me. Um, and the other plan is from the highway department and as requested,
the highway department has reviewed the plans for the project. The results of this review and any comments are listed below. and something checked off. No exceptions taken. No comment. >> Okay, great. Mina, do you have anything?
>> Does anyone else Does anyone have any questions regarding the site plan approval? >> Who are we missing still for comments? So at the last meeting um the board identified um the conservation commission and
funded department as well as the facilities manager. So those were the three entities that would typically get a site plan approval anyway. >> Um there's no comments from the fire
department from the facilities. Um, so those are the ones that were doing that. >> And then what about the third party engineer review? >> So the third party um we are not under
contract with a third party uh entity yet or it's not. I think um a conversation here that the board had with regards to that um I think examined the the um the extent of construction or
reconstruction of the site or renovation of the site uh in addition to what typically peer review would be looking at which is storm water and any sort of site civil engineering because this is a reuse of a building I think it is um you
know I think it's contemplating that there's no new impervious services so the drainage is is is operating the way that it was um you know when was in operation I think you know a conversation here with the board is
whether or not to proceed with that given the um the highway superintendent did you know who is an engineer yeah um review plans he did not have and the fire department.
>> The fire department didn't provide a comment. >> Oh, okay. >> But the the engineer um the general super who is an engineer reviewing plan provided comment. >> We want to wait till we hear from >> Yeah. So, we're waiting. So we haven't
got anything from fire department >> and then you said facilities >> and conservation >> and conservation. >> Yeah, conservation >> it would go there anyway jurisdictional just bas
>> um but yeah I mean in the past you have um you know knowing what you know about the site you would probably make a decision based on what you know about the site. Yep. >> Um but as as to your point there there
were no comments from the fire department or um the facilities managers. >> And how about the board of elements? >> They sorry. Yes, we need to I mean so it's just a matter of um following up with
those departments to to get those comments. >> When was the initial correspondence off? It would have been at the >> 16th >> first when we discussed the project. >> Okay. >> Last meeting. So
>> to interject on the fire department we have been working with various members of the fire throughout the design and actually meeting scheduled tomorrow to review the plans. Yes. >> Did I say something?
>> Yes, sure. >> I'm the Brandy Conservation Commission. I'm the agent and typically when questions are asked, they're sent to key people in the various departments responding to a question. So, I'm
hearing you had a question for conservation. There was never anything sent out to conservation. So, it's impossible to respond before an ask a question. But technically this being a renovation of a building it's totally interior mostly. There is some
outdoor work but it's all within improved areas. It would have been conservation doesn't have a common so that's what should be written down. Not that we didn't respond and weren't as but that is the answer. There is no Dr.
Johnson you're not disturbing anything new. So, >> okay. Could I ask one more question? >> Sure. >> I'm a little older. You folks are at a public meeting. Could you pick the volume up on all your comments? >> Oh, sure. >> Because I can't hear half of what you're
saying. I just hear the key things like conservation and >> yes, we do that. I appreciate it. >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. So I think when there was a vacation so Kathy Leonard who was the town um the the board's admin uh
typically you know would handle a lot of the or um the way that the applications would go out etc. So we'll just make sure that you know given the presentation that you have initially heard um the fact that um there is
comment from the fire department that you requesting that the opportunity for us you know for those comments to be collected from those other entities be something that you know you just >> table this until
our next >> when is when is the next meeting >> we have a date certain >> you don't I mean so Your typical meeting is >> the second and fourth Mondays of the month. >> Yeah. >> So that would be
>> um >> that would be >> December sorrymber 10. Is that right? >> Yeah. Well, I mean you know >> that's right. That would be your
regularly scheduled meeting. Obviously, you can take into account um you know um scheduling it before that assuming that you would have the opportunity to get those comments from other board members or from other departments
>> and you're meeting the fire department tomorrow. >> Okay. >> And so we just need >> fire department will share with the facilities board of health and the com for an official response. Um and presumably they will provide those prior
to your next meeting. Um because you know they would have understood that this application was already in process. >> So >> could we do contingent upon any comments that may come
tomorrow? >> Yeah, there's so many. >> Yeah. Yeah. I would say I would say because we're waiting on more than just the fire department. I would say I mean even if we came back next I can't do
Monday but I could do Tuesday next week. >> So quickly like or just want to wait till the next. >> Yeah. I mean, so >> if the next scheduled meeting would be the 10th, that would be three weeks from
now. >> The Yeah, the project is currently forbidden. >> Yeah. >> No. So, ideally, we would like to have decision.
>> I'm okay with that. I'm okay with moving the meeting. >> Yeah. >> Ken, what does your schedule look like? It depends on which day you're looking at. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I mean, is anyone available Tuesday the 28th,
>> which is next Monday or next Tuesday? >> Yeah. >> And 5:30. >> That'll give Kathy enough time to >> Yeah. I mean, we can circulate that. At the end of the day, you also don't need me given you understand what the the
process is. I I do have something at seven. So, it it'd be trying to figure out how to >> accommodate that. >> Where do you Okay. So, >> cuz >> I have to be in Ammeris at seven. Um so, I think it's just a matter of, you know, trying to >> Okay. >> ensure that the the meeting happens.
>> Yeah. Um but presumably if it's good for the three members that are here, you could presumably meet then. Okay. >> We have other items also on the agenda that we might want to say that that next planning board meeting will be next Tuesday. Yeah.
>> Um but with that said, at least for the discussion and purposes of this particular project, >> um I think, you know, depending on the the correspondence from the fire department and other boards, presumably you'll be able to make the decision on next
Tuesday. >> Okay. Can I just ask what you want Kathy to do? What do you need to do? >> Um >> I think it's just a matter of um getting the other department comments. So, board of health and you know, we can all I think
>> because those departments did get decided again. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I think it's just a matter for the the board wanting to to get that affirmation um that the board of health um conservation did not receive it. So, we'll get conservation,
you know, an opportunity to respond even though Mr. Deslet did did mention um um in addition to um the fire department and official comment from the fire department, fire chief and
um the facilities manager for this project. >> So presumably, you know, the town can collect those comments and provide them to the board >> prior to next meeting on B28.
you this is not a public hearing so you do not have to >> okay make a motion to >> yeah I mean you can it's it's for those that are here for that project you probably want to >> um but there's no other sort of requirement for notification >> y
>> um you'll say that you're continuing this item until then y >> and then >> in accordance with your typical posting for a planning board meeting you would post it 48 hours prior to a meeting >> yeah and I would like another reminder to go out to them just to pay them again
as kind of one last final shot and >> yes, >> it's their last opportunity to comment. >> Yes, we will. We'll do that. I think Kathy comes back either tomorrow or Wednesday, but I can start the ball rolling with those other notifications. >> So, we'll move this one item for site
plan approval um to Tuesday the 28th at 5:30. But I'll probably can wait till the next if there's any confidence. >> And can I just want to clarify that
those that group of people there, they all have a copy recycling physical copy um except for if you ask for >> um email copies. >> Okay, that's fair. So I think yeah I think just a ma a matter of reminding
them and that the planning board will be having their next meeting on the 28th to talk about this problem. >> They have some comment that's fine too. >> Exactly. >> But we just want that in writing that they have no comment on that.
>> Okay. >> All right. So, next >> did you want did you want to just formally >> Okay. All right. So, um we will be moving the site plan approval for the proposed project to renovate the former
West Street School providing a central location for municipal activities um to next Tuesday the 28th at 5:30 p.m. >> Second motion. Okay. >> All in favor? I
>> thanks. >> Okay. Next plan is to discuss the site plan approval for the application for 185 West Street instead of meeting uh agenda. Do you want to take this October.
>> Go ahead. >> Okay. So, >> so we're here to discuss the site plan >> approval for application for 125 West State Street and set forth meeting agenda. Um it looks like
>> so so board I did share with you um a hard copy of the application for West 185 State Street. Um, as you know, um, there was a a special permit that was issued by the board a couple months ago. Um, this is for a site plan approval
for, um, sheds. Um, you'll see in the application packet, uh, there is, um, some correspondence um, as well as a site plan. Um, a correspondence from um, the land
court. Um, with regards to this particular project. Uh I briefly spoke to town council uh with regards to this um I I think we probably and I don't know Mr. chair, if
you want to speak to um this because you might know a little bit more than I do with regards to um how this ends up getting back to the planning board and and what other types of actions need to happen on uh on the town side. Um
but maybe you have uh can speak to that. >> Well, let's let's start with your conversation with town council. >> Yeah. So, >> can enlighten us with that? >> Yeah. Um my conversation with town council was um you know this magnotic
lawyer and um understanding that there were some um uh if you look at page two of the the land court decision and the order um you know this is a decision
that was uh between the applicant and the zoning board of appeals. Um and so part A of that item on page two states uh a board uh prepare and file with the board a
remand appeal for the project. So the board be being the zoning board of appeals including any modifications that may or may not be approved by the plaintiffs. Um no new field appeal fee shall be charged to plaintiffs for the remand appeal. Plaintiff shall also
within 60 days of this order prepare and file any further permit applications with the Branby planning board andor any other permitting authority within the town as plaintiff deems necessary. So this is a site plan approval for um this
particular project uh and this is an avenue based on um the order from the judge. That's so that's my understanding is that it's a component of the of the order um and
that'sly my understanding of the project. >> Has the town attorney commented on this settled? >> They were part of the the process by which um you know this is coming
forward. Uh but my understanding of this particular process is that it does identify various orders um for how this should get approved should get
um by both the planning board and the zoning board of appeals. So I'm not sure of the order. I'm not sure of, you know, what has to happen, but obviously there's a site plan approval application that that comes to the board. Yes.
>> And um, you know, the board can speak to how it may want to either understand more >> um or schedule put something on the books for a meeting um for this particular applicant.
Okay. So, this is this is how I decipher what we've got here and how I believe we should act. We should treat this as if it's allowed in the zone and we should treat it like a a special permit.
I mean, >> this has already come before us. >> It has come before us before we approved it. Um, it's coming back to us. Um, >> the board did not approve this. Not the sheds.
>> Not the sheds, right? Not sheds. >> So, I think we treat this as if it's a if it's as if it were allowed by Z within the zoning bylaws. That >> that'll be up to ZBA and the courts. >> Yep. >> I think what they're looking from us is
to hold a hearing. have an outcome. >> Yeah. >> And if we approve it, if there's any conditions or anything like that that the court can look at and say, "Okay, well, if
if ZBA approves it, then then it's these are the conditions on the site wall." So we we should kind of ignore the the the the ZV8 portion of it, presoning portion of it, >> and just look at it from a a site plan
review. >> Okay. All right. >> So So with that said, this was not formally posted as an agenda item. It's a discussion of the application. >> Yeah. >> So you would want to schedule this at a forthcoming meeting. >> Correct. um where we would officially
submit to town uh town boards and others com uh ability to comment >> go through the regular process of a a special permit hearing >> which Mr. Chair this would not be a special permit
>> reite plan approval. >> Why do you say that? Um I based on um I think the >> the way that this is laid out if this is >> that's how I mean I >> that my understanding >> yeah I would probably want to clarify
with the town council as to if the site plan if it's a site plan approval or a special permit would site plan approval be appropriate um particularly because um I didn't think that the board
contemplated this when we were talking about outdoor goods and wares as a site, >> right? >> It does say your site plan approval in accordance with section 4.44 44 >> that that's the application coming from
the applicant. But it's a matter of making sure that that is the right permit. >> Let's let's treat it as a special permit. >> As far as the formality goes, it's the same as if it was a a
>> site plan review. Get a determination from town council and the only thing it really changes is the vote. Yes, the the the amount of members that you need to vote um would change and and
how many you need to approve it. >> That's correct. Um the other the other the other comment with regards to requiring a special permit application is that it would go through um your public not the public notice process by 48. Site plan approvals don't do not
require that. Right. >> But we but we've been doing that anyway. Well, that's right. So, um, >> in most cases, we've been doing that. >> The application, um, would go to the newspaper. >> Yeah.
>> Requires all of that. >> So then you want to contemplate >> just like just like the previous site plan approval, the butters were notified. >> It was advertised. Was
it was it advertised? >> It was not advertised in the newspaper site. So >> that's why you for all site do >> but special permits will require a posting in the newspaper. >> Yeah. Let let's >> for the purpose of tonight's
conversation, let's let's follow it as if it were a special permit. >> Right. >> And if I get clarification otherwise, then we didn't we didn't lose out on any time. and we didn't >> miss any steps. >> Yep, >> that's fair. So, I think we just need to
know the calendar in order to schedule it accordingly because obviously we would probably need to by Friday >> this Friday >> to see if this >> could make it on your regularly
scheduled November 10th meeting. Yes, because it would need to be posted for the probably even earlier than that. Probably needs to be we need to have a public notice um already prepared for Wednesday.
>> I don't I don't I don't >> Kathy is coming on Wednesday >> I believe. So I mean I could prepare one just and Kathy can work with the newspaper. I don't know what the deadlines are for the newspaper full of things, but obviously
>> let let me get clarification. Hopefully, I can get a hold of town attorney tomorrow. >> Okay. >> I'll get a hold of you and and let you know whether we need to do a um public hearing. Uh >> go through the process for a public hearing or it's just a site plan review.
>> Yeah. So I will let you know also that I will not be present like no the November 10th meeting. I will have PBP I can have PBPC staff who staffs other planning boards just for process. Um but we'll obviously work with them to um prepare
any sort of guidance. >> Okay. Okay. Any further discussion on that? >> No. >> So, Ken and I can work work the details of that out behind the scenes for the
formality. So preemptively I think the board will you know schedule this for their regularly scheduled November 10th meeting. I think there's any other sort of guidance um that the town council can provide to us
>> um with regards to conformms to the order in addition to any other context. I can share that with the board and then you can respond >> individually just so that there's no um open meeting vi uh meeting law violations given that um you know some
of the correspondents may need to be over >> the day to meeting. >> Okay, perfect. >> Sorry. Yeah. Do you want me to go on to the next? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Um, so we're going to discuss definitive
subdivision approval for Ming Estates as set for a meeting agenda items. >> So with regards to this item, >> well, that cleared the room. Um again this now requires um so what I shared with the board
was a um copy of the application. >> Yes. >> Um the board did approve this back in 2019 and obviously the reason for it to come back is um basically reinstate. >> Yeah. Uh I think what I learned from the
board at the last meeting we talked about this is that we will just re send it out um to town departments the approval plans. Y >> uh in accordance with also looking at this the application
um and then schedule a public hearing as is required for definitive subdivision plan. Um, we probably I think in context of reviewing plans that have already been approved back in 2019, obviously
the board probably has some questions about whether or not code, you know, what code looks like, right? >> Um, and the probably where I think most of the conversation will land is um public safety and public works. um if
you know they have any issues with the re with the previously approved subdivision um as we would get that what that looks like uh we have to find it we have to find that subdivision approval we know
that it was recorded but as far as a paper copy which is pretty typical I think we need to find where that is >> I don't necessarily it might be newer um >> it's a real applicant >> it's a opposition us. >> So,
um I happen to be on the board when that um subdivision was approved. >> Okay. >> And to Ken's point, we recirculate the plans like a regular hearing. Yep. >> Um the the only thing to my knowledge
that might have changed but may not have because they may have been ahead of the curve was storm water. Some of the storm water regulations have changed to be a little bit more stringent in some cases.
In this case they may have been ahead of the curve and had already instituted the new the new uh regulations. Um, but Dave D. Rocher when he reviews it, he'll let us
know whether or not um it meets it it meets those new requirements. Um, and then the only other thing that's new is we have a new fire chief. >> Yep. >> Um, we accommodated the former fire
chief with some uh turnarounds and some pullover areas for for emergency vehicles. So, as long as the the new fire chief doesn't take any issue with the the former design, then
I I don't see why we need to reinvent the wheel or >> any major change of it. >> Yeah. And I presume at the public hearing we would also remind um you know re restate uh the conditions of approval
that were based um on that approval in addition to re-examine if the board chooses um the the um bonding um which is also typical during definitive subdivision approval. Yeah. >> So, just looking at those documents
where they exist um and finding them bio for the board um and allowing the board to see the previously approved plans. The only the only >> the previous applicant is does he have the approved um
>> the the town should have it? >> Yeah, we've got it. It's probably on it's probably on a a drive somewhere. >> Yeah. I I mean I think also they they were they were required to um record it. So it is a recorded document.
>> Um however, you know, if there are questions about seeing yeah, but a recording document, it's very small, right? >> We probably would want a full-s size set of plans or at least one >> um for departments to look at and for
the board, right, >> for that purpose. I wonder if there is a way to either engage with the previous engineering firm that basically said, "Can you rerint these so that people can look at it?" Um,
>> do you remember who the previous engineering firm was? >> Well, we can message the applicant. >> It's on the plans. What's that? >> Sherman. Okay. So, they need they've got modified. >> Yeah. Um the only other thing I think
and the applicants can speak to this at at the hearing is that I think he's which probably will go to everybody's benefit is um phasing the project the project had approximately 75 homes. >> Yeah.
>> So given the the I mean >> the applicant will probably phase it out at anyway. So based on >> we may want to look at that on how it on how it's going to be phased that that will be a little bit different from what was originally >> uh presented and approved.
>> So is there no phasing >> originally? There was no phasing. >> Correct. >> Were they planning on phasing it or were they just trying to do everything? >> I think they were trying to do everything in one shot but I like the idea of phasing.
>> So Let's get we'll get the information. We'll set up the we'll get any other information from the applicant. We need to set up the the hearing for the subdivision and >> yeah cuz that will require a better notification on that.
>> Yeah. Um so I think if you know if the request is to re-engage with the engineering firm um so that the town has an official like even if it's pre-approved official plan to include
with form whatever is seen um that should be sufficient uh in addition to getting the butters and the butters list and all you know paying for all of that. Um, so I think once that's formulated, then we can schedule a meeting.
>> Okay. >> Put that on the November 10th that we can get that >> probably. Yeah, we would need to go a little further into the calendar. Um, >> but I'd like to have it >> before the end of the year.
>> Before the end of the year, before the end of November, we should at least have the first >> hearing. So then so then with that said if that is the case then it would be Thanksgiving week which is the fourth Wednesday that's Monday of the month the
24th of November would be our regularly scheduled meeting >> the applicant's here is there is there a oh you're not the >> Oh okay okay all right yeah all right so
um let's do that I think there's a s some sense of urgency each other. >> Okay. So, we'll um inform the applicant of this conversation saying that we need X, Y, and Z. Please do that, but we can work towards a November 24th opening of
the public hearing. >> Yeah. Anything else on that? >> Do you want to approve the minutes now for September 22nd? >> Sorry for your crumpled piece. It
literally fell and I took out a lot of damage. I we can read between the drops. >> Okay. So, that's >> I'll make a motion to approve the
September 22nd meeting. All that all in favor >> I business so planning board work plan. >> Yeah. So um as the board knows we have some hearings scheduled in November um
as well as next week. Um so those are forthcoming obviously um as we talked about in those particular items. Additionally uh the zoning violent update project as you as I presented at the last meeting
um the diagnostic should be ready for your review um by the beginning of the month beginning of November as part of the district local technical assistance having that work completed by the end of the year. In addition to that, obviously
the board knows that the town has also received grant funding for the zoning bylaw update project which is also happening kind of in a different track. Um a kickoff meeting is trying to be scheduled. I understand that the police
chief is the um committee chair of that committee. Um and so I've been trying to work with him in identifying a date to kick off the project with with so um as you know obviously a lot of the
conversations that we've had um that the planning board has had over time are part of the already initial set of comments. Uh and it's likely, you know, your participation in in both the
receipt of the cleanup bylaw and or um your continued updates as we go through the process. Um you know, anything that you share be taken into consideration for the that project. But obviously as you know
planning board is the one to make the recommendation to town meeting for any zoning bylaw changing. Um so with that said that's where we are with the zoning by ag and I'll inform you once that meeting is scheduled
it will likely be a daytime meeting. >> There's no issue with like funday like as far as timeline. Okay. other than the project needs to be done by June 30th. >> Okay. >> So with that said, there will be a survey. There's community engagement, a
community engagement component with that project. So a survey and a community meeting at the very least have been identified in the scope. So those things will happen. Um and you know, we'll
inform the board and find that out some the grammarian planning board rules and regulations including fees. >> Yeah. So um I have a draft of the rules and regulations that I'll share with the board. It basically is um a it's
boilerplate typically because it talks about what happens during a meeting. It talks about what's expected for the application. Okay. >> Um and so I can share that with the board. I know the board also has contemplated fee changes, particularly
the ANR. Um, so I do have some research that I can share with the board. Um, and we can decide when to do that. Um, but I will share the document with you because that will require a hearing for any adoption of the rules and rights.
Okay. So, if the board's going to meet on the 28th for the West Street, why don't we do something in addition to if we're >> going to be here anyway? >> We're going to be here anyway. Let's do like a word. >> Look, just let's try and accomplish something else. Doesn't have to be a
full night. Doesn't have to be >> I So, I will I will circulate the rules and rags draft so that we can talk about it at the the meeting on the 28th. Also can we circulate can we get it before the night of the afternoon of it?
Doesn't give it any time to >> I understand prepare or digest >> with regards to yeah these more significant document. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> We have someone here that would like to
have a couple has a couple questions for us. actually agenda. >> So, you just introduce yourself. >> My name is Steve Carpenter. I used to I'm a the former owner of Street Lumber
Corporation before uh Mass West Development took over the property. They still own the property right next to it between the Polish National Park Union and Mass West Development and I
>> Your current your current address. >> My current address is all 116. Oh, for this? >> No, just your address. >> Yeah, my address at 116 Rockway in South Avenue. Um, I've been sitting on for a number of
years. I've had it on the market a couple times. Uh I am I did have some plans myself in the back which is why we divided this off when the time the commercial flag. Uh I've been working on
trying to sell this. Uh I've had multiple people looking at it. I have a bad uh part of the problem is people are trying to get two detailers in there and the retail market right now isn't that
great to begin with. >> So, so what are you asking? >> I am speaking to several people and the question that keeps popping up is I know this is all mixed use zoning here. Is housing an issue back here
>> as far as the town is concerned? Uh they >> No, that's res. It's residential. The mixed use goes back 500 ft. >> Yep. >> If I'm not m you have to check You'll have to check the zoning map, >> but I believe the the >> the zoning goes back 500 ft. But
>> but um >> I've had >> even even if that were the case, the mixed use incorporates housing, >> right? It does. I understand that. So, so that's the >> side of you know use
area a certain portion has to be >> no it doesn't because it's a can and correct me it's an overlay so it's not it's not a strict okay >> just >> fixed use >> and the way it's looking right now is u
I'm looking at it may be commercial. Anyway, it's the question of whether or not they can use this as a residential area. >> Yeah. And it's a misuse operator. >> It probably Yeah. I'm not at this point. I'm not
sure. It probably would not be individual houses if I had more like a >> would have to be a subdivision because you don't have the frontal share for unless unless they incorporated this into four one person one person buying the entire thing.
>> But then they can slice it and dice it. They'd probably be probably like the cottage style cottage involvement that type of a thing. I'm not sure exactly what they're calling. >> You might get away with that cluster of
housing, right? >> Because there's not a uh um there is a septic or a sewer system there, >> right? >> Yeah. They have to spoil the water, but there is could easily get away with flustered
housing. probably the type of thing like I have nothing firm nothing I don't even know what they're talking about yet the question just asked me was it stability if it's possibility we'll look into it >> that's the kind of thing we're inviting >> yes
>> that's what we're looking for >> development [Music] Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anything else? >> No. Okay.
>> In >> let let me let me make a motion to adjourn. >> Okay. I never get the opportunity to do that. >> All right. I'll entertain ajourn the um meeting planning board meeting on October 20th.
>> So moved. That was it. That was your >> second. That was your motion. >> Do we have a second? Second. >> All right. All those in favor? I