[Music] all right it is 5:32 on March 10th I will call the select board meeting to
order if you can join me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge Al to the flag of the United States stands [Music] indice thank you so our first appointment is with the
town treasur which he was unable to make it tonight right okay so in our packet was the documentation for notes 465 466 467 468 469 for a total amount of
$275,000 together with supporting documentation this is a new serial issue for departmental equipment so this was for the um annual town meeting the first part on May 13 2024 the town approved
the purchasing of a dumb truck Highway for the highway department so if I remember when we did this at from um last year does Dave read through each one sure in the amount and the number yeah
so amount number date who we are doing me note with and then so that will be your motion and then we all sign it I can give this to you because this is the one we're signing the short the
short so there should be six things that you're signing all together five notes and one of paper I make a motion the Commonwealth of Massachusetts town of grany um on March 14
2025 for authorization by vote of said Town passed on March 13 2024 uh promis to pay Bank East Hampton Savings Bank $55,000 on March 14th 2026 with interest
at an annual rate of 45% payable annually and it should say the no in the left- hand corner too it might be cover uh number 465 no number four 465 excuse
me I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I treasure Town C we sign get the majority of the board of Selectmen right to the left yeah I'll keep it all together in
order for her thank you I will make a motion for note number 466 and sum of $55,000 for the town of grany date of issue March 14
2025 uh passed on Town vote on May 13 2024 uh promis to pay Bank ESB at bank ESB the sum of $55,000 on March 14th 2027 7 an annual interest rate of 45% paid payable
annually note number 466 a secondly motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor all right I I will make a motion for note number 467 for the town of grany date of issue
March 14 2025 passed on Town vote May 13 20124 promis to pay Bank of ESB at Bank of ESB the sum of 55,000 on March 14th
2028 with interest of 45% payable annually on Note number 467 a second motion any further
discussion discussion all in favor I I will make a motion on Note number 468 for the town of grany date of issue March 14th 2025 uh authorized by Town vote on May 13
2024 with the promise to pay Bank ESB at bank ESP the sum of 55,000 on March 14th 2029 with an annual ual interest rate of 45% payable annually no second the motion any
further discussion no discussion all in favor I hindsight we probably could have lumped it all together and just set notes one through right good yeah but it's all the same amount it's just different years I like to hear Dave
speak everybody's informed this way I will make a motion for note number 46 9 for the town of grany dated issue date of March 14th
2025 passed on Town vote on May 13 2024 with a promise to pay Bank ESB at bank ESB the sum of 55,000 on March 14th 2030 with a annual rate of 4 and a half%
payable annually second motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I then that's up raing summarized notes number I made I made a motion so this is
just rating on to think that make a motion on the full note do you want him to make a motion on the full Town Treasures record sure okay I make a motion on the certificate of town Treasurer record uh dated May 13
2024 for the total amount of loan authorized for the equipment dump truck Highway Department uh for $275,000 amount of this this issue to 275,000 with due dates of the issue date
of 314 2025 the due date of 31426 2027 2028 2029 and 2030 I second motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I
I sorry all right next is citizen participation so if we can have John Matthew Hi how are you good John Matthew 288 Taylor Street first of all first of all I have to apologize if my first two
questions um you can't answer but I have no alternative right now first one is um in December of 2023 the town voted $5.7 million
for the uh rest Street School renovation right now this this could be dumb but it isn't 5.7 we find out sub subsequently that it's closer to maybe 14 or 15 but
I'm not sure on that does that make that vote in December 2023 invalid because it really wasn't 5.7 was it December 2023 I thought it was at our last annual meeting no
no before I was on it doesn't make the vote invalid because that money was still appropriated for Black Street Building all right so um second question if the town does not vote for an
override would it go back obviously to the 5.7 million yes they wouldn't have any more to spend all right that amount unless the town authorized some different amount from this spend but all right and that would mean that the 1.8 million in Opera funds
wouldn't be lost because the 5 point the renovation didn't take place so you're well you're asking if they can proceed with the project with
the 5.6 and not complete the amount that they were planning on compl with the 14.4 right as long as they expended before 2026 right yeah it had to be earmarked for a project Chris said right is is earmarked for a project and then and if
the the voters don't approve uh actually approve to go to an override that's something that the committee's got to look at and the select board has to look at as well as is how to move forward with that project Is it feasible to move forward with the
project and what would be the need requirements you definitely want to have options should the town reject it correct yes right uh and the last one is is easier a few weeks ago I can't remember when but I asked the select board to look into creating a committee
to look at the high school options right I was wondering if you had any traction on that with the progress of that so we had discussed it and we had discussed that the committee would need a charge so unfortunately with everything we've had going on in town we haven't been
able to sit down and discuss that our meetings have been three three and a half hours long yeah um but that is something that Glenn Dave and I thought it was a great idea when you came in front of us that that is something that we want to do um it just it hasn't happened at this time with the change
over and staff and stuff no I appreciate all your time it's all volunteer and it's a pain in the butt I'm sure a lot of work on your part thought it was a great idea I think just like with the West Street we need options we need to know what's going to happen so we will work on it well I think Kathy if we can
add it to our next meeting's agenda I think just to yeah figure out like Glenn said we can't just start a committee we have to know what their charges first right and then call for committee members and then go from there yeah definitely the the uh the
um uh since the school department sent in that uh note of Interest I guess you call it or statement of interest to the massachusett School building authority the process has already started right well so what that what that does and it
was explained to us last year is it just keeps us in the running but they're not going to move forward on it unless they are 100% sure that the taxpayers are going to back it up and since we don't have like you said options we don't know what that's going to look like but they
have to send in the letter every year to keep in the pool well thank you very much now how would the asusa school building Authority know that the town is willing they they actually ask the town
and they get a uh um you can have like a nonbinding vote if you wanted to in the town could vote Yes they could vote no is non-binding uh so that would give them say yes we believe our town wants it just based on that vote for the town to
say yes or no they would have to have a price tag right right well right they could but it could be like a nonb s the town wouldn't be obligated to it because what they're looking for is that if you want to move forward want to want sure your town is willing to put up the amount of money that they would need to
do so where would the amount of money come from who would decide that it would come from the voters I mean it the amount of money all depends what they're looking to do to a school whe they looking to you know repair it renovate build a new one all those
things are obviously options right so it would probably have to be a study I would think right yeah but and I think the last time we looked into it last year the feasibility study was over a million I don't remember the exact cost of it but it was it was quite a bit Yeah
according according to the uh finance committee two years ago they mentioned in the town report they did for each town meeting that they mentioned a $3 million price then for a feasibility study that's in in the book but could have actually been that high I know it was in
the Millions but we might be talking about two different things I'm not sure no it was the same thing it was to do a fe a feasibility study for the high school feasibility study is going to give you an idea of options and what the cost would be yeah exactly yeah great all right thank you very much thank you thank
you and George Randall there will come a time in your life where you'll need to write things down too get in there the time's already there George we already do that well good evening uh George Randall 52 Taylor uh thank you for allowing me a
couple minutes of your valuable time I want to say uh thank you to each of you for the incredible amount of time that you have put into the board of Selectmen in recent months I realize that this has turned into a full-time part-time job
lots of issues lots of changes lots of challenges and much more to come including more hours and more meetings I for one realize the amount of time that you have each invested in research at your homes to come to the meetings
prepared it shows and I for one uh appreciate that so again thank you very much um I want to welcome Mr brazinski as interim Town Min administrator like to thank him uh for uh coming to gry and may his time be
beneficial and fruitful at the last uh Board of selectman meeting that I attended a report was given on proposed renovations to West re School building with three viable options or three options two of which I I felt were viable I found the report to
be reflective of a lot of time and effort so I say thank you very much to the research committee I realize what is ahead of the board of Selectmen and the town of gramby to get a plan in place for the town government to be Under One
Roof again the proposal going to a special town meeting and then to a town meeting for possible funding what I didn't hear at the last meeting was any talk of a contingency plan for if the vote passes or if it fails in either case we'll need to
vacate the Annex Building at some point in time as this building is going to be for sale if it is not already advertised I would ask the board to consider that uh the town move move to purchase that Annex Building while either the school building gets renovated or torn down and
a new building is built or a new high school is built and the current High School is converted into a town hall it makes sense to me to at least consider this option and avoid trying to put everyone into the old library for a few years while we iron out a plan that
should have been put in place long ago it would also avoid having to move people a couple of times and also avoid the uh cost factors of doing that move to me it makes sense to purchase the Annex Building and move forward instead of
moving backward I would ask the board of uh Selectmen to consider that option and put it forth to the voters to decide the last thing I want to see is that the staff at the annex or the town receive a notice to vacate by
tomorrow again and most important thank you all for your efforts to repair our town government and thank you for allowing me this time to speak and to my fellow towns people it is time for you to get involved too come to the special Town meetings and hear what is proposed
speak up get involved come to the annual Town meetings hear what is said about each AR article speak up and get involved thank you all very much thank thank you George and George to you I want to thank
you it's not too often uh you look out there and you're not here I mean it shows that your dedication to the town and you want to be informed what's going on and I appreciate that thank you we've got 50 years of service that's thank you for all your service shorts you've done a lot for this
town your folks have done a lot for the CH too so my heart thank you and Kathy what do you have for us for the updates well I have an update um which I believe you received also today
Crystal um a status on the fire chief review we have scored the six candidate maze the committee decided to interview all six that will take place this Wednesday then from there we will develop a group to go forward to an assessment with multi multi stations our
hope is to have a finalist to to your board the first part of April that's from uh Russ Anderson uh I also um Mr Morisette came in today he wasn't feeling well so he didn't think he'd be make the meeting um
so he sent me some more Nam for 17 okay thank you thank you C we also have some start of the D frin
Rentals I have one June uh 7th it's a celebration of life um and it's the large uh Pavilion um with 50 to 75 people I also have uh the friends of the
grany veterans they're going to be having a barbecue fundraiser for the friends of the uh grany veterans and that's going to be on May 31st uh from 12: to 8:00 p.m. and they're hoping for at least 150
people the friends of the ELD elderly concert start the first one is on 617 um from 400 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. and it's at the Gazebo area the and then they have
another one on 7:15 again from 4:00 to 8:00 p.m. their last one will be on 8:19 uh from 400 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. then I have a birthday party on
96 uh the main Pavilion and the Gazebo and I it's uh for a birthday party and then again the friends of the elderly um I have uh 910 it's the senior
picnic from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. I don't have much else from uh unless it's on the the agenda tonight it is May 31st May thank you for that so next is to accept departmental
reports I will make a motion to accept the departmental reports I'll second the motion any further discussion I don't have any I was going to ask the board if there was some way that we could kind of
troubleshoot for Jeremy I know the 2024 Ford F350 truck the cable keeps freezing because the water got into the door and so they advised U marot Ford told them to park it in a heated garage which we
don't have so I wasn't sure if because the water got in there if there's like some kind of tarp we can put up you know how you see those temporary garage units I don't know to protect the water from getting into the door compartments something that the board
could look into for him because I know it's not going to be heated and I know the weather's getting nicer but we don't want the water to get inside the door units and I don't know marott Ford really didn't say that there's much they could do about it um just said that it's happened
before and again we don't have the a heated garage to give him but we can keep it out of the elements at least as much as possible with like a temporary unit or something so I don't know if we can what do you think we can look at it
it just sounds like there's something that should be able to be done to it seems like it's I meaning outside water got into the door panel and the cable that runs between the handle and last got frozen and they they're they're yeah they're saying put it in a heated
garage and it won't happen but the water shouldn't be getting in there is my thing well right I agree sounds like to seal or something like that it's not working correctly I don't know so you want to start with Jeremy reaching out to them and asking how they can seal that door
because it is a new truck it's 2024 so we don't want to see the damage done to it already no it's AG the 2024 so it should be on warranty right yeah I'll ask him yeah yeah tomorrow Mor wonder if there's a seal that's just bad on the door maybe and they haven't looked at it
that's why I said check seal check seals yeah okay yeah I just had a question with that about that because I don't want to see that truck get ruined well telling us to put it in a heated garage is the answer no absolutely or put it in a heated garage um if that were an
option it would be easy but there's something wrong there something shouldn't be leaking in there I agree and then uh Jeremy said he attached the emergency backup battery lights for the it's on the back oh my
God I finished reading and I never flipped over so is this something he said that it's extremely expensive for the electricity because of all these backup batteries is there some way to do just minimal lighting instead of 64 units that
seems 64 battery backup emergency lights that's a lot right for that building for the library I mean you want to keep a couple lights on but 64 it seems like a lot yes I know maybe we could decrease the cost a little bit that way by not do
wonder why so many emergency lighting yeah might have been the newer system when it went in but seems I can ask him I'm sure he will give you something back for your next meeting yeah usually in a small I mean
it's not that big building of maybe one row or two rows or two rows of every other light maybe seems like a lot I do agree with that um and I think my other question was the furniture company that's great
that we're getting donations do you know what we're getting for furniture is it like desks and it was desks and everything it was through the OPM for the West Street School and it was they're thinking um it's at West Street now for when people yeah and they're
very nice when we were over there on um Friday looking at the building with Tammy and Ira um they were actually polishing them up and everything there all right yep that's awesome right I did want to mention to the board too I know the numbers for the
COA was down but with the weather getting nicer a lot more people are coming out that's good all right so all in favor I I I next is to approve and sign maintenance Wars I will make a motion that the town
of Graham be authorized for payment one warrant number 54 dated 228 2025 in the sum of four uh total dispersement for Warrant 54
$474,999 187 I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor hi I will make a motion for payroll warrant the maintenance I'm
sorry maintenance warrant for the town of grany uh warrant number 53 dated 2024 20 224 2025 good Tongue Tied tonight my no Kathy he already did the maintenance
one he's made for sorry that's why I'm confused I'm reading payroll right in front of me why is okay it is okay that's my fault so I make a motion for payroll for the town of grity Warrant number
53 dated 224 2025 with a total dispersement on that of $463,500 93 C right second motion any further discussion no discussion and as usual I will abstain from teacher and
select board salaries all in favor I I David and I will both vote out of necessity for the select board Salary thank you thank you no mention I will make a motion for the town of gramby to authorize payment for Warrant number
55s dated 37 2025 with a total dispers ment for Warrant 55s of $273,600 46 I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I
I will make a motion for the town of grany authorized for payments warrant number 55 dated 37 2025 with a total dispersement for Warrant 55 of
$75,500 18 second motion discussion all in favor I I sorry that's sorry you all right next is to approve and sign the common VI's
licensed Kathy before he starts reading is it just supposed to say town of Granby not Charter days right no it's supposed to stay both oh cuz it that's a food truck and it's just for there oh okay all right when I saw brusso liquor
Mar I was like okay it's the business brusso doesn't say liquor Mark does it it does brusso lior it's not it's barbecue she must have yeah barue okay cuz I was so confused like I don't think that's what it's supposed to say y do you still want us to do it or yeah you
can just say bruisers for Charter so not brisos bruisers okay bruisers for chartered mhm okay I make a motion the Commonwealth Massachusetts town of grany certify that bruisers Barbe from South
from South Hadley from South Hadley for um the charter Day weekend yep and the address still the same it well that's 32 Kellog oh okay at 32 Kellog Street gramy mass
01033 is hereby granted a common Vic license in said town of Grandy for Charter Day weekend and that place only and expires December 31st 2025 and L sooner suspended or revoked uh license number
25-31 dated Mar excuse me March 10th 2025 second a motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I she's going to change it upstairs I'm going to take it up and change it yeah
do you want a societ it it's not right with us all right nothing else in there for the big chillers okay so next is the discussion of the interim ta position so
um as Ira brinsky um made us aware last week do you he didn't give you the hours as of now right so we contracted for 150 he said you would be close to it by the end of next week right yeah
so there was 150 hours um that we had a contract with Piner Valley Planning Commission and then he gave us an extension of the contract that would save $15 an hour by um just having a contract with him versus Piner Valley
Planning Commission and I know Glenn you had mentioned um stuff as well I did so I reached out to Chris Martin and asked if he would be interested um coming back as an interim uh Town
Administrator and he said he would be so I would ask that the board um schedule a meeting with him to see what his availability is I did tell him it could be anywhere between 20 and 40 hours a week he said he understands that um he
would definitely like to help out the town so we know that Mr Martin stepped down from health issues right so I just want to make sure we also keep that in mind no he uh he's well aware of that we had that discussion and I'm not going to
put it out there but we had that we touched on that and I left it up to him to decide and he said I'd love to meet with the board and have that discussion I'm definitely willing to help the town um I did talk to him about we have a a Town Administrator uh in place now
for the future we're just waiting on uh her to finish up her 90 days um responsibility with the other town but she also agreed to work um some of the Fridays coming up and I think that'd be very helpful and Chris said he could
you know be here on those Fridays to kind of transition and go over things with her and I think it's very valuable right now especially with um our town departments and their budgets uh having Mr Martin here someone that's
very knowledgeable of the p past and understands uh the previous budgets and has worked with all the departments in the past I just think it's I I think for a nice transition I think that's probably uh the best way to
go and I don't you know like I said I want to have that discussion with him I believe he's not going to um take on more than he can do he's he was open and honest and four with me as to what he can and can't do
so but I'd like to have him speak to that should we also have a discussion maybe with Tammy our new Town Administrator in regards to uh it would only be fair to Chris to find out uh possibly how long she might
need the help is that a fair question to ask I don't know well I think Glenn just suggesting until she starts on June 2nd and he would be here on Fridays to help train her on the Fridays that she was a ailable I don't think we were looking at which we could discuss the future but
she is currently a TA now right and I I think I think with Chris being here and not just Fridays but the other day start the week but on Fridays when Tammy is here it gives him a chance to start talking about you know what's happening in the town what needs to happen and
what things are going on and stuff like that so it kind of gives them that um a transition piece uh and it will be I'm sure several Fridays I think to work together I know Tammy spoke about this a few a couple Fridays she couldn't do had
obligations but I excuse me I think it' be a u it to me it just makes sense it really does um um I do like the movement that Ira binsky is making I like the collaboration meetings that we're having
um or that he's having on Thursday so I do understand the continuity with the budget and um having that knowledge but I also feel like a new set of eyes can also help tighten up the
budget a little bit more instead of looking at it well gry's always done it this way so let's keep doing it this way well there's there's always other ways to look at it and I think a fresh pair of eyes also helps so I see both sides um
I don't know I think Ira berinsky is the one that I would like to stay with but I understand I'm not the only one on the board so I understand that people have other opinions and just being the chair of the select board and working with both Tas
closely I like the communication that has been happening with Ira grensky um and that's just my personal opinion um to be to let the board members know I did reach out to Tammy Martin and she's happy to work with either um she enjoyed
meeting both of them on Friday so it is the board's decision um you know obviously both options are good options I was here now um Chris obviously was here for many years and does know the system and how things
go um It's A Hard choice to make but Ira is in place currently and I guess we are discussing the option of extending him at this point correct or talking with Chris or talking with Chris there's two options I
don't think so I really I don't know I don't know that there's a better option I guess it's a choice we could save money for the town by we don't know what will ask for though to be fair well but it would be it would be not
fulltime possibly right either one of them is really not full-time right so but like I said and I just say this uh I've worked with Chris for many years he has a passion for this town um even when we needed the him to
be the town interim administrator at one time um you know he was looking at what best fit for the town and even as far as money came up and he wasn't willing to take more because he wanted him was that he's
to me he's invested in a town uh nothing against Ira but he's he's been here three weeks um and I just don't I don't see how you challenge someone that that's been here you know 20 plus years it's what
experience and knowledge of what's happening in the town and going in the town especially this much that we have going on right now um and I've gotten a call from some of the department heads as well so that actually asked if Chris was
coming back and I think it comes to a comfortability level as well so they're comfortable with them they've worked with them for many years um because I also had a couple of the department heads say that they are enjoying Ira so
you're going to get both ends so it is a very hard decision to make well I'm not looking at comfortability I'm looking at knowledge and experience that someone has with this town that's what I'm that's what I'm looking at I'm not again not saying
anything um at all about Ira but it's said but he's been here three weeks and for myself it's hard to to he's got the knowledge but he doesn't have the town knowledge I see what you're saying which is a lot when you look in the transition and
new uh administrator into the role in any any business any Town any government agency will try to have a transition period because it's so viable for the person leaving and the
person coming in and unfortunately we weren't able to do that with Chris because uh you know the first person we had didn't work out and we thought it was going to work out so you know we're we're you know we're several months behind where we thought we were going to
be um it probably last October so are we looking for a motion to make this move forward or oh you've heard Glenn's side you've heard my side now yeah pretty much
I would think you know just at least talk to Mr Martin I mean if that's not have an option then you know I have concerns and the hours with pbpc are up
next week right I think so that would mean that we don't our next meeting we don't know right well Iris had last meeting that it would be next week he'd be at his 150 and our special
town meeting is April 7th right so that would put us at our first meeting well would be April 7 so the board would either have to make a
meeting to meet with Mr Martin before um well we have our meeting next week too right on the 17th so we could make a schedule a meeting for the 17th one to meet with Chris Martin and see if he's
willing um or see what the options are and such so we can do that you guys are okay with that I'm okay with that because we know what I was asking for it would be nice to know what Chris is asking for as well fair enough and go from there agreed and and then maybe if
we can reach out to Tammy also and just ask her what her needs might be what are her okay you know she has some weak points that we need to focus on and just have a better understanding of what she might need help with right so um we'll table the
decision till after meeting with Mr Martin agre all right so discussion of assistant ta position so I don't think we have any of the paperwork yet for it right no because
again I we need to talk in executive okay all right and then approval of COA Transportation policy so Natalie sent us the new one and then before we vot on the new one we
had asked for a copy of the old one so we knew what we were comparing the only thing that wasn't carried over from the original contract was attending the COA activity and or lunch is free I didn't see that on the new one
and I don't want to charge them for coming here to utilize the COA so I think that should be because that's on the old one but it's not on the new one so because it's not on the new one I just don't want there to be that ambiguity for it so I
think that needs to be added unless yeah I didn't read it down there so the rate they kept the same from 2020 and again that report came here was approved by their Advisory Board okay and they missed that
one or they agreed to take it off I don't you know I don't have their minutes so I don't know no I do say it it's underneath it is part of eight it's there right before the costs so um do you know Kathy it say the
maximum mileage for out of town trips is 35 miles away but then all the pricing the maximum they go is 12 miles is it 35 round trip is what they're thinking they in back there no well that would even be 12
miles each way that's I know that's right I was trying to understand why they were why it's a maximum of 35 but yet we're only charging I know the maximum was because um they at one point
uh they were trying to use it to go on long trips okay and that that's why it stopped there like when somebody borrows it or whatever um they you can't do that because if you go out of town out of uh
the state things like that so that's why they shortened it I believe from to only 35 okay because there was some issues and no other departments can use it now right because it says it can only be used for primary departmental
purposes so other departments can use it but yeah I was thinking like they were saying if someone had a doctor's appointment in Boston we're not taking them okay to Boston right Mak sense if that much it has changed I
wasn't familiar with the other one but yeah it seems to be pretty cut and Dr anything no anything stand out so I will make a motion uh that we accept the transportation program policy ofd
January 15 2025 for the Council on agent I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I all right next is discussion of DCR tree planting pilot program so we
received an email for this and it was on our last um or we briefly discussed it in our last meeting as topics for this time I could reach out to Mike Downey um the forest stewardship coordinator and service Forester and he said there are a
couple different options that we can go with um he said we can do a lowland enrichment pack or we can do a raran um pack which is more like small shrubs um but he said that he wanted to let us
know that John Edwards who is our Forester um who helped us come up with our forest management plan um he said to reach out to him and to also reach out to Jacob Maco um who is the state service
Forester um to provide us with Insight on which pilot program would be the best for dufrain park because what they're going to do is they're going to look at soil they're going to look at wind conditions they're going to look at a whole bunch of ecological um information
before they give us that um before they give us the advice on which pack we should go with so I did email Jacob Maco actually just today cuz I spoke to him Thursday of last week um and he said to follow up with an email
and I did copy Kathy to that and also Ira just to keep them in the loop I was going to ask if um RTA or I know you got a lot going on uh Kathy but if one of you guys could kind of take the lead on it and see if maybe they have to come
out and test the soil or if that's something they can look up online for their database but from what Mike Downey said is he thinks the raran pack is more for the phase two which is the other part of Kendall um he thinks phase one
really needs more needs bigger trees um but they would be coming in with about 25 uh trees is what 25 to 30 and they don't have the um they do a 7525 Grant
so this pilot program sorry I'm getting confused this pilot program would be just for the trees and this would be free they could afford that um so then we got in the conversation of dredging so that also got brought up and he gave us a couple different places that we
could look for funding um he said the MVP grants is a good one to look out for because it is climate resilience um but he did also ask us if we can find out who they care in custody of the dam at dufrain Park is under
conservation it is conservation so it's the town okay because he was saying if it was under DCR and they inspected it there could be money through them okay no and then if it was the USDA because it used to be Farmland we could get
funding through them but it's conservation so it's all through us okay good to know so they inspect the dam okay yeah you gotten a couple of um
things on it I think I just sent one you one actually last last meeting from for the dam reports yes yeah I did see that it's given to Dave D roer Dave Des Des said oh I had Dave on the last
one that we looked at maybe it wasn't du FRS yeah okay so I just wanted to keep the board informed of different options that we have um and then hopefully we can move forward I can I can email Jacob Maco or I don't know
if your IRA Canen talk to Ira tomorrow and just see if they're um what He suggests based on the Topography of du frines in the soil and because he he was very knowledgeable Mike was and um he
had a lot of good information about thresholds and wind and it was very complex so he gave me those two names John Edwards and Jacob Maco to reach out to and to work with them on uh the pilot program because they'll tell us which
one is the best for I can email both of them tomorrow okay thank [Music] you all right so next is an update on extended lease or town Annex so Kathy and I along with IRA and
Dave and Mary Joe man um had a meeting through zoom and Dave is estimating in inhouse it would cost a $38,000 to um pave the driveway at the annex so
to be clear Mary Joe would like it paved if we are to extend the lease that is a contingency that she has so the lease currently we pay per month is $22,200 um she was she is willing to
extend the lease to June 30th of 2026 so a whole year but again it does depend on the driveway so Dave did explain that he could go over now and cold patch it for now but he really doesn't want to do the
paving if we do decide to do the paving until late June early well he's got a vacation in May but June July is because of the temperature so he doesn't want to do spend all that time and dig it up and repave it and then have the temperature
be too cold or too hot and it ruins the asphalt that he has laid down so he said that what he would be most comfortable to agreeing to is July 31st where it would be completely repaired and paved properly and he did go over on Friday
and fill all the he did Co CCH it yep okay what he said it cost to PVE it 38,000 and we're still going to pay rent yeah and I did ask um if she was going to go up on rent and she said she could not answer that question at this
time that's almost $60,000 for a year I know that's outrageous so I did ask during the meeting if um she could think about um how much she would ask for if we were to purchase the building um she
said that that was premature at this time that she would have to get back to us um but I think if it's something that we are looking towards because like you said Glenn that's a lot of money for one
year um and I know yeah I don't really it's a lot of money for I don't really want to pay that money to be honest with you unless we are owning that building ourselves well into your point Krystal with that us Paving that parking lot is
going to add value yeah to that building for for for resale for because it's have a brand new parking lot again I you know you know depending on a purchase price it might be worth it for us to purchase it right but that even brings up where
we can get that money from as well yeah but then we reap the benefits of Paving it when we resell it when we weell it let's just say there is a there is a backup option um Kathy Tammy IRA and was
Chris there too no no they went over to the old library I know it's not the first choice um but there is enough room where they could put up partitions and work from there if we want to save money because
we already own that building we already heat it we already do the electricity we have the space um they would put yeah that was down I don't know how many downstairs how many upstairs but they would figure out the that was discussed a year ago two years ago it's
not new it's always been an option for us if you know um I just hate to use bad one to worse I guess would be the part there but yeah I just I don't see us spending almost $40,000 on
a Paving a parking lot for somebody else and sell pay yeah that yeah so we have town meeting first we're we're in lease with her until June 30th if oh so that's
something else to keep in mind if June 30th we are not out the rent doubles per contract so we have to be out by June 30th if that is something that we are choosing to do even the rent doubles was cheaper than $38,000 well yes you're
right that it is that double would be over 4,000 a 4,400 a month so it's almost 50,000 a year like doing that now right right yeah 50,000 a year that's a lot of Mone too yeah
yeah but you look at the square footage still too but you know but and there's no guarantee that he's not going to go up on the r either cuz she said that's so that's still a possibility you
know is it possible to it would be last minute but in the event that the town votes to not move forward on the West Street Building I don't know that we have much
choice but to move them into the library if we don't want to spend the money and she won't sell to us and we're not willing to spend $60 plus th000 for a Year's worth of rent and paying or
and Paving I'm sorry right they're not allowed to that's that's the option you're right that is the other option so do we wait to see what happens at Tom Meer even though we're going to be at the last minute doing things I don't
know I I I don't I don't I don't like the the town Paving a private business parking lot well I don't disagree but that wouldn't happen until July if we agreed on that right that per according to Dave's well right
but it's going to be it's going to be I'm sure if B or I want to got written up as an agreement going forward no she did ask for it in writing you know and then you know again it becomes you know liability as well
it's it's it's not not Talent property it's it's privately owned I think we're just opening up something we shouldn't be opening up if we pay if we have to pay the rent we pay the rent I'm not uh looking to to pave a parking lot for a
private company private business so with that Glen since that was a contingency do you want us to reach back out to her and ask much to purchase the property that's something that again
that's an option for the town I say it's an option it's it's good to have all the information before you make a decision but I'd also look at before we purchase that property I look at it as far as where's the the value the market
value so you know get two years down the road we're not have a piece of property we can't sell we over paid for it or something like that so you know we got to take those things into consideration is the Large Garage in the
back uh the block center block garage is that a portion of that property or is that we don't rent it though I think it's the tenants right yeah it's Mary Joe's um one part of it and I don't know which building it is is the um the uh
telephone company rents oh it still is though okay yeah all right is but does she own everything though they okay the brick building itself is I believe is owned by the telephone company and I think one of the
um garages maybe the one closest to it they rent out as well the rest of it is uh marriage for the tenants yeah okay I didn't know the telephone company was still yeah existent yep
well because they're doing all the fiber optics I they do internet and some people still and one of the garages that goes with the property is heated and has an upstairs um office that would fix the Ford
pickup that's why I'm asking what goes with it thinking in other directions it's true what else you know what else is up there besides the property we own uh reuse all right so we do have the backup plan of the library I know nobody wants
to see that necessarily happen but is a backup um but would you be able to reach out um to Mary Joe just ask her if she if she had to give it or if she could give the price if we were to purchase that
property CU like GL said that's something that would have to be um approved by town meeting if we don't have that money to just purchase that building okay and then Glenn you were saying about market value who would we have to
that just go and have it appraised or see where the it have approves which I would imagine she's going to she was going to have find figure out but again and I guess to put it is that building more valuable to us than is to
somebody else so it comes time to sell it how valuable is that for office space and stuff like that and we'd also have to look at is there's things that we have to bring up the code because now when you change ownership some things may not be grandfather then in the
building as well so those are things you have to look at too uh if you don't alter the building you shouldn't have to do anything with the actual structure but the septic system might be in question correct that and you remember you also still having a whole apartment on the other side
right you not an easy topic no it's not all right so I guess we can put that on next week and see what the update is going to be for the agenda for that one and we should keep the DCR tree planting on there too just to keep even if it's an old business oh we'll add both of
those to all right and special town meeting update and we have um Lyn Mercier here yes I expect to speak I was listening so again you you spoke with
well we were both in the office and um I when we spoke to him he um had a misconception I guess on cuz last week you guys said um March 31st yeah but he would have had to have the warrant done
for today okay you to sign it and um that it wasn't going to happen in the time after he talked with Lynn um we double checked with the town clerk um and so we if we did it on the 17th it
wouldn't have been the uh you couldn't post it so it wouldn't have been the 14 days but she said she could work with uh April 7th so uh he said today when I spoke to him that he would definitely have the warrant ready for next Monday
and he would have Town Council look at it beforehand and I won't be here April 7th but oh you won't be here April 7th okay I'm going away so um the storm water I know we were waiting
for Town Council to review that and I'm seeing um Brian tomorrow who's coming by the office okay as I know it wasn't just this one we were waiting for and did we decide on a date or a hearing for the
dog um Le Ira hasn't said a word to me I think it was between us though we were trying to come up with the date on that that would have been probably when I wasn't here yeah and you were going away Glen so we were trying to figure out first for the warrants for West
Street and then the warrant for the storm water for Dave because that's due June 30th right and then but that we Tak we can take care of that at the reg annual town meeting okay and then there was another warrant for the dog um
leash bylaw right that we but do we want to just put that on the regular town meeting and do a hearing before then for the town meeting because again that's pushing it close if you're going away on April 7th I mean for yeah because
the the um the bylaw for um the animals I don't that's we want to get it done but it's not like it's not needs we don't have a date it has to be done by so correct and then if we you know again if
we have the um the meeting the public meetings hopefully all those questions get answered and we can make adjustments to it as need be so at the town meeting it just kind of goes through and there's not a lot of questions have a special
town meeting before the town meeting to do those Chev on the same night on the S that's how we figured out all the the dates that last meeting I that we it was that one we didn't we didn't schedule the dog but I thought we squared everything
away as far as a special time meeting that we had date we did we had March 31st but um Brian ot to wasn't able to bet the warrants yet right no for the storm watera it was they were only working on the West Street as far as I
knew and when I went to Ira to explain he he he thought that um he had plenty of time to do it okay and then he spoke I thought he spoke to you you know like I said l and
i i he was in with Lynn I came down because I was concerned about the posting of it and I um looked some things up and then called Kathy to make sure right because Kathy gave us the dates one date worked better than the other Kathy gave us a thir ver and seven
14th it be super hard for her to make by a day so so she didn't like the seventh well she was fine with theeven this really the best state to get prepared the 30 would have worked if we had a warrant drafted last week but there's no
warrant drafting yet but I thought the date was the 31st was what I thought the date was going to be the 31st it was that when I left the meeting the other day yeah CU I had to bring up the 7th cuz I didn't they could play a factor something
okay are you gone that whole week one I it doesn't have to be on Tuesday it can be on any day the seventh is a Monday it can be on a Tuesday or a Wednesday I will be here Tuesday I will be a Wednesday I come back
um Monday night into Boston and I there don't ibody back here in time I'm not going to rush either doesn't have to be a Monday night it's just you know historically we have our town meetings on Monday night a special time meeting can be any day any that you choose so if you want
to push it to the eth and and is that one day going to make a difference to Cathy no yeah I'm fine with that can you do the E I can do the eth let's cheuck my on
calendar that's from the special T yeah yes April 8th so um we will have Ira will have it done so it can be signed on the 17th okay so with that said um we were going to
move that select board meeting anyways right Glen because you're not going to be here on the 7th on the 7th right do you want to have our regular meeting before the special town meeting or no I don't know what we're going to have on the agenda I don't know how much we can get done in an hour and a half
before the meeting yeah so it should be a different day well want we I thought you would pick two days I don't have it with me right we had the hold on put it into my we could do the well we scheduled I thought we doing
the 14th and 21st cuz the 21st is a holiday we weren't doing we had so we and then we're doing the and I couldn't do the 28th we we schedule something different I had I only had us doing March I don't have anything we talked
about April because we talked about the holiday and April the Monday right and I will be year away year away I'm away on the week of the 21st right so well at the last meeting you were talking about April
29th thanks George told you very helpful I do have have April 29th as our meeting on Tuesday but I don't have an earlier one because we just had the special town meeting I had I had on the sth yeah I had it on the 7eventh too now
okay so it was 7 and 29 but so our yeah so our special town meeting will be the 8th so we have to have a regular meeting in there somewhere and Glenn's not here the seventh do you do the week before the 31st I mean if if you're looking just to meet before the special town meeting get
anything cleared up that's going to be cleaned up yeah let's do March 31st I can do that can you March 31 I can do March 31st yes because I mean at the uh then on the 8th with special town meeting I mean we can
meet before if there's any budgetary things that got to be signed that need to signed warrant or anything those can always be done beforehand too okay so we'll go with March 31st instead of April 7th so you've on the 17th on
March 31st and then April 7th April 8th April 8 for the special town meeting special town meeting and then April 29th 29th okay oh what what about the he's on
vacation the 21st to the 25th right what about the 14th we could do that but you had suggested meeting before the special town meeting George did I say that did say that you wrote it down got it as the uh the March 31st y
you talked about and then the April 7 you've just changed to April 8th and then there was a board of Select meeting on April 29th and then May 5th so we can we can meet the 31st those anything we want to discuss before before the
special town meeting okay and then we'll leave the 14 no meeting unless otherwise stated on the 31st if we need one do you want to leave it at that CU there are two meetings that month actually no we would only have one meeting that well the special town meeting is technically
a meeting for us yeah so I guess said we can cover anything prior to yeah if we need something we can have it at 6 o'clock or whatever right okay yeah just short things you come here go then go there too yeah okay okay we've done that
before I'm open to that okay I think we got it all is out all right so I know with the budget um discussions that are happening with the Departments um where are we with the
park and wreck department I know we were supposed to collect data right Glenn was looking at Glend Durham was looking at collecting data from belter town I haven't heard anything for to see what they doing budget yeah CU we don't know what our
budget's looking like right now either so um Kathy would we be able to reach out to him with an email and just ask him for an update on it did you Cathy get any goals for fiscal year 2025 from the committees or
boards yet nope so I know one of the things that this Le board tries to do is set goals for the next fiscal year so um do you guys want to set a deadline for that for the Committees and Boards I think the you you didn't get one I
thought there was one person no I typed out the conservation ones from the meeting and the planning board from the meeting yeah and then there's us that was the only three M I know what are your guys's thoughts well we should have something
from the finance committee we appoint the finance committee so we should have something from them well even the Departments too they I mean they have their goals and stuff that they're working on so I think the Departments right like how always say you know it's
more of a working together piece but it's some someone's on elected board you know it's up to them they they don't have to they don't want to unfortunately I know this it's hard to come up with the plan for the town whether it's 5 years or 10 years down
the road when you don't have everyone I agree in on what the goals are I agree so I guess if you guys are okay with it Kathy can you um have Kathy or we could have Kathy s out an email is reminding them yeah um if they want to
be part of the plan that goes forward my goal is New Town Ministry new assistant Town Ministry new fire chief no got a lot new Building Commissioner yeah all right and then
um Cur curbside collection Kathy again that is with Ira I okay IRA has it and that's gonna be something to look at too because um the override I got passed many years
ago isn't going to cover that anymore with the cost of the the cost of it yeah I think a couple years ago we're just barely covering it again that would be something Chris would be able to answer for you we're just barely covering it and then
we we are fortunate to extend our contracts at the time too but here we going gu to for a bit so that's going to be yeah Chris said it takes 18 months so we got to get it started
now trash collection everywhere is gone up it's expensive to get to trash now yes so is all right does the board have anything they want to bring up next time I do nothing on we got enough yeah
I think we have planning on our plate for sure um one of the things that was mentioned the last time when West Street was when we got the update from West Street was informational meetings so I think that would be very
helpful before special town meeting um and I don't know Lynn if you wanted to I hate to put you on the spot I know you weren't expecting to be slated March 25th okay that is that Tuesday night March 2 as an informational townwide
meeting we are trying to determine where to have it okay March 25th yeah it's a Tuesday yes so we discussed that at our last meeting and decided we do that so we should have some renderings
of the school available and a pamphlet explaining what's been done since special town meeting December of 23 and why the cost increased IRA and Tammy and myself um uh
went to the West Street School on Friday um Ira um highly suggested and Tammy agreed that the meeting the informational meeting be held there or have tours there because uh from the
outside as AA as Ira said it doesn't look like much but he was totally blown away when he went inside and saw everything with the quality of the building and space yeah and Tammy was too thought it was a great idea um but
the big thing um we're checking is just the insurance wies of people going into the building so y i we have to have the door shut probably people would just get a perception of the space and where
people would be but nothing nothing's been done you know what I mean yet right yeah yeah it's still rich but people haven't been that M for years so may be I yeah I I was quite impressed and like I said so it's Tammy she thought because
we also went to the um Annex we went to the um old library and we went to the uh safety complex um and everything justce so everybody could get Tammy could get an overview of all the buildings and um
whatnot so so as far as the West Street Building goes um you know checking with the insurance on the liability end of things is great but people that might want to be at the in at the info session should
be aware that there are hazards in the building right so that they're still working on it then I know that we're working on a pamphlet how almost think you're better off doing an info session somewhere else and offering up a tour to anybody want them to sign up for a tour or something
in the building if you get permission to go in it kind of see it yep that's a lot to do in the quick time frame that we have I know but it's it's it's a big ticket item or either that or you could get somebody could go in and film it
all that would be really yeah film it all and then put it on and post it post um a YouTube and on channel might be able to do that that tomorrow at our meeting yeah yeah I mean yeah that way you know I think that's great that might be a better off yeah yeah you can't go
in there nobody film everything and then they can put it up and anybody can they can start view it right away and yes that and they can view it again here and you can talk more with it the intention was to have it here in session but then um after I ran through it he's like wow
that's much different anticipated so he got it' be a good place to have it but with the liability issues so I I I like the filming yeah yeah and if people can start seeing the the film beforehand they could read the questions that they may have too yeah
the question would be um G can fil film that for us yeah absolutely well there you go yes we want we want to put you on a spot but I doing something like this anyway particularly with the
options the options work wasting making little video so all right I'll discuss that tomorrow's meeting and get touch good thank you thank you so so the walk through is going to be off we're not
going to do that I think take it off the table I think the video is a better option and then we don't have to worry about any liability or health hazards so then we'll have an Ino session here Y and the video prior like the video out
whenever it's ready and then then you even still have it playing here here sure yeah then people would have the option to watch it before much you know before before we even get to that stage so there's so much to do in two
weeks right yeah if it's you know but at least it would give them a few days if they can't make the info session they could see what's going on and then right pick it up from there so I think it is a better option right if you don't have the time to see before the info they have time after to see it before the
right town meeting and at town meeting and at town meeting we can have a planing but yep yeah it's a good idea all right well that was my only question so if there's nothing else uh we will go into executive session 30
a-21 a-2 to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with non-union Personnel or to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with non-union Personnel roll call vote d i Leon I sex
and I and we will only come out to adjourn the original meeting thank you