[Music] it is now 5:32 on February 10th if you can please join me in the Pledge of
Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stand thank you okay first we have a joint meeting with the library trustees to appoint an unexpired term for a vacant trustee
member oh so do we have let's do this first um we will start off with rosemary Rosen did I say that right is Rosemary Rosen here Rosen no
okay so the three that were interested are not all interested anymore oh we have it down to one oh no that's not how it goes no the interview and then board
votes each everybody has a vote actually I had to BU that in gen to several times well no we do have it for to do V but we didn't realize that um the so in the I've
served Cades and the p the trustees would meet the potential and decide which one we would like and we would present to just like we just like we are so that has been my
experience for several decades so with grany or with another town I've been here for 40 years that's the way it's always worked so not the way it worked when uh before but because that's the whole point it's
a um and it's election sort of like you're you guys are you know people are coming well and it's sort of like the Committees that we have where they send us the top three candidates and then we interview the top three candidates and then we and this in this case both um
committees get to vote which is why you needed a forum from the we're we're just looking for Lauren to fill will the turn through May at this point and then there's a new
election and we take it from there at one of our meetings we all decided that we were going to pick Lauren to fill the seat out of the three candidates was in November so we've been having a
difficult time coming up with quum to meet with you to present her as a candidate um again Michelle was presented as a candidate was there anybody else ago oh well we have no meaning did anybody else show
interest oh when I was present 10 years ago yeah because the way it's supposed to do the selectman usually have someone um anybody anybody is able to run for that office so the speak right they fill it
and that's why you bring them to and everybody listens to and age say why they're interested in the past even when Virginia was chair um we would as a group of Trustees we would decide which
candidate we wanted to present to the so that that's been the way I I said I've been around for 25 years doing this and that's the way it's always been so so if the rules changed in the middle of
this um term I'd like to see it in writing I just want to make sure we're not deliberately pushing out two people who are interested in it and not giving them the opportunity to speak on their behalf as to the group we had actually
presented a letter into the newspaper and it stated anybody interested position please sent us a letter of interest and then you sent them all to me and we have put a date in there we had put in a date so the additional
candidates didn't respond in a timely manner so that was the reason the trustees chose not to to select the other two candidates but you still submitted the letters to the board as interest of those two
candidates correct I think they came in afterward so we did we did submit them I'm not the chair so I'm not sure if we all this they were submitted that last
day where is I think November 8 there's no dates on any of these letters from either of the candidates how do you feel safe uh for lack of experience I think
that uh we need to kind of go with what we've known I mean I don't know is is there something in the there is general laws that tell us that we can't about advertising everything yes
advertise but it's only one person right you're only you're trying to appoint one person out of three yes until the next election so we will talking about February March and then there's a new
election in May yeah so I just want to ask Town Council do you have any advice for us on this as far as because I don't want to be pushing two other people out who were interested and I don't have dates on these letters nor on the posting to know if
the letters came in after right uh so Brian ool Town Council thank you U so there is um mechanism the Mass General as I'll bring it up here but when I remember it's the
two boards meet okay to to select an individual I I don't think uh um one board uh can you know i' really say this is who it's going to be uh the select board also does have some input on this
um um and so it would it it would appear to me that at least from what I've been hearing here is that the Board of Trustees here has basically said this is who it is or this is who we're going to be presenting to you and and I'm not
sure that under the general laws that that's necessarily what's envisioned um it's a collaborative process um and this person may be
the most qualified U but but I would think that if the select board was interested from hearing from the other two and I don't know what the uh U what the posting was um where it was posted how um um were their time frames and
again we don't have if these were submitted via email we'd have the time stamp on that speaker posted yeah you know without actually researching this now um you know
that I would like to see all that um whether or not I'm going to be making a decision today or or a recommendation that's highly unlikely we did base our decision on um that Moren ended up submitting her letter that we was by November eight that we
were looking to have the letters and the other two submitted afterwards understood so I would say given the information that um has been shared with Town Council I think as not having again like
Dave not having experience with this I really don't feel comfortable appointing and Lauren you very well could be the person who is most qualified for this but I don't feel comfortable appointing without hearing from the other two that showed interest because this is supposed to be a collaborative it's not supposed
to be you appointing someone and then giving it to us to appoint so we're all supposed to be doing it together so I would feel most comfortable if we interviewed all three and then made this elction I agree given the information that we have to work with currently I
think that we'd have to uh postpone it put in the next meeting so Kathy would you um be the one to re reach out to these three candidates or would it be the library trustees that reach out it's up to them at the next meeting so we can give you the date of
our next um original or our next I can I have all three um information on the on the letters yeah so could the library trustees be here on February 24th and we can schedule at 5:31 or an appointment later on that
night whatever works for you we we already have three appointments okay night starting at 5:31 and up to 6:00 so 3 until 6 yeah and then one after 6 okay would that be doable for the
library trustees that are present tonight I don't know we'll have Forum okay may it was a struggle to get a forum here toight how many are on the library trustees right now eight so you would need five
for a form yes so we can put you tentatively on the schedule at 6:15 or 6:30 Cathy and then um if you guys have a quum that night and you come at that time we can do it if not we can push you to the next select board
meeting but given the information that we have I don't feel comfortable making that decision tonight trustees meet tomorrow or has but it's clear what do you mean by moving in a different direction I'm sorry it would be up to the Tres to decide if
we want to just wait till the next election oh till May okay and Kathy that can go on appointed until then I don't I'll have to check okay I have no
idea I have to check with Kath okay so as of right now uh Kathy are you going to be contacting the three for that date only after hearing from them okay after their meeting find out that Kathy that can yeah no problem okay I
think send an email sorry for the inconen sorry thank you for coming in I don't see Mr Edwards I don't either okay and I don't see Charter day and we have some time before they come in as well um and Piner Valley Planning
Commission isn't here either so let's do I have some things okay yes let's do that Cathy thank you um I have one uh duin uh rental it's uh for the friends of the grany veterans
um and it's going to be on May 31st um and it's going to be a barbecue fundraiser for the friends of the rany veterans um and they're hoping for at least about 150 people they're going to have um a band and it's only till
8:00 they have down arrive at 12 but I'm not sure that's when the actual event will start well they'll need to set up and stuff I'm sure okay okay and then as far as some correspondents um you had uh Susan
nightly um said uh thank you for all appointing her to the opioid education committee and the charter Day committee she's happy to participate in the opioid committee and because she feels she can tribute there unfortunately she can she
has to decline her appointment to the Charter day commit thank you and then um we have a letter from Dave and Dave excuse me Deb and John Matthew and um they the finance
committee and their report at the town meeting over the last two years has recommended the town create a committee to look at the future of the gry senior Junior High School we understand that the school department sent a statement of interest to the Massachusetts school building authority suntime in early 2024
since the process has started we think it's important for the town to get going on gathering information what options there are for the school my wife and I would like to be on this committee and he Mr who just happens to be here too hi you want to come up to the
link and I know Kathy just said John Matthew but if you can say your name and your address yeah I'm John Matthew 288 Taylor Street thank you for um your letter and I know you also signed a paper to speak
tonight yes um regarding the um the committee to be formed for evaluating what to do with the school I think it's very important um obviously to all of us um and the finance
committee in their report for the last two years of town meeting had mentioned that they the finance chairman urged the town to start some kind of process of getting a group of people different people around uh
cross-section of the town to look into this right um so that it doesn't come down all of a sudden that um the uh Massachusetts uh building the school building authority says okay we
are we we're going to um give you 50% whatever it is uh to build a school suddenly that's in our in our in our hands without any evaluation or analysis of different options you know and that's I think that's very
important um I've been a resident for 10 years and sometimes my experience says that at Town meetings we all of a sudden have this thing presented to us you know the the the agenda is given to us when we walk in and we say oh wow or it might
have been posted a week or two before somewhere else but it really sometimes doesn't give us enough time to discuss it and get difference of opinions from many people and uh the school decision
is so critical to our kids but also to the town in terms of expenses that we really should have a group getting on that because it's going to take a while because to do a thorough research you
have to talk to various school systems find out what they did what they didn't do what was good what whatever um and whatever options someone might say so I thought um if the if the select
board is responsible for creating a committee that um my myself and my wife would like to go and I'm sure I am sure there's other people that would be interested across you know maybe a teacher maybe a a parent with some kids
in the school or whatever a retiree whatever that's basically that um and I did should I address that comment that I that I brought tonight oh or should I address that later or no you
can actually um hold on I put it somewhere in my massive pile of papers let me put that over there because we weren't able to do that here it is there we go so we'll do this one first so that Dave and I can comment on this one as well
all right um I appreciate you sending the letter I think as you stated it's very important I think it has to do with the future of the town and our finances so we have to figure out what is going to happen with that building and what is going to happen with the school itself
um so I think it's a great idea I don't know what the committee would be called um and when you say various options that's keeping the building renovating the building knocking it down rebuilding right and maybe
um uh regionalizing with another school uh whatever the the options could be uh the uh probability of this could be high this could be low but at least have all the options on the table so
that when the town meets they can say look at this that option look at the good the pro and the gr con etc etc for all the options right but I think it's once again just critical the town gets something like that but also to check
out all the options so a group won't leave and say God darn it they didn't even address the fact that maybe we could do homeschooling I know that's that's ridiculous but yeah it's just get all the options and it takes takes a
while yeah and um to go off of your comment a rization I don't even know how we would start that because that would Brian or sorry attorney OU would that be a feasibility study if you were doing like regionalization and stuff so if we
were to appoint a committee to look at the future gry Junior Senior High School and they want to look at all the various options including regionalization would that then be a study that we would have to do with towns trying to figure out who's willing to regionalize and what that means for
both towns or however many towns are going in on it I don't even know where to begin with regionalization I don't think a lot of people would and I don't what I don't pretend to say that I know that answer right off the top of my head but after having heard about regionalization and
uh remembering back in 1990 when uh I was uh uh around in the school system uh I I know that it was um it was a big thing and uh I don't think anyone whether it was another
Community surrounding us or or wherever where the two select boards or School committees would get together and say we're we're regionalizing where that there must be a process yeah um um because either both or however
many communities are going to potentially be involved um they're going to want to look at that and see if the numbers make sense yeah should it be something that the um superintendent start with her um and
the chair of the school committee school committee yeah with the select board with the select board um which Dave is the leaan yes and then um also so as far as committee members or just to get the conversation started before we start the
conversation going to to start that I know that hopefully I got a date hopefully to um for you guys you to meet with um the superintendent about talking about the 2026 budget
okay so um we've got a member from the select board the school committee chair the superintendent should the administrative uh business administrative administrator sorry of the school also be there for
finances but I do like Mr Matthew's um suggestion of a Town's person being there too well I would say after that brief discussion of what it's needed okay then okay how to regionalize and then you'd have that part um you could
still um start a committee form a committee but that would be one piece that you'd be able to present already to them how they the discussion on that on how to read how you go about regionalizing so Dave is that something that you'd be
willing to do at your meeting with them sure get the conversation started and figure out which districts or I know last year the superintendent had sent a letter of or school committee had sent a letter of interest to several towns in the area
asking if they wanted to regionalize um and I remember Glenn saying that um it should come from the select board it should be from select board to select board asking the town if they want to reachal I um because it's a whole town
issue right it's not just between the schools it's between all the taxpayers of both towns so that might be where Dave at your meeting you guys decide it goes first as a letter needs to go out to the surrounding communities asking if they're willing to regionalize because I
know there's lots of school districts that are hurting financially or lots of towns that are hurting financially when it comes to the schools yeah um say that that's just like I mentioned just one option right um
when other towns are approached right the the conversations with these towns should highlight the benefits of or the detriments of right
the pros and cons right to ask a town hey you want to regionalize they'll say what no we don't we're fine then you but if you said hey the concept of rization here's the benefits you would
get here's the the downfalls or the shortfalls you would get but be an honest appraisal right so when that letter sent to all these towns you you have to give them a reason to right and address the ones address
the reasons that they won't and I'm not saying you you Prejudice your your letter your the purpose of the letter is get information right so if you gave them pros and cons they could send a letter back or an email saying well we
the the number one two three sounds good but this four and five you know that effect on our town would be you hear what I'm saying um and that's where our committee would do all that groundw work
that grunt work because um there's a lot of phone calls a lot of conversations PE the person you need to get a hold of couldn't be on vacation or whatever right I don't want to go too much further but like I was mentioning a
committee would have the time and if you had like eight or9 people you you know this is you do this part of this this option here Mr Matthew you do this Mr Smith you do this option and then in a week or two come back and tell us where
you are well I'm only here so far okay what's next you don't hear what I'm saying yeah it's um there's a lot of work so I think in order for us to um begin to even start that committee is we would have to come up with the committee
name and then figure out what the um what the mission statement the charge thank you I was looking for that word what the charge of that committee would be so um I think it's a great idea and I think um I think we we've got to give it some more thought on what we would call
that committee I think it's definitely a great idea okay now can I address that thing I give okay I didn't write it real very well but my my uh thing is I've been at the Town meetings since
I've been here and I see warrants all the time and most of the warrants regard finances you know move this to this right my object my object and I can get people to to probably agree to this is
that we have a lot of committees and a lot of uh boards and I've been looking at minutes from a lot of these boards some of them don't even have minutes published other ones do have minutes and they go through the agenda and they just check it
off so instead of going through an hour and a half of a vide tape which is great but a lot of people don't have time to sit for an hour and a half for a particular subject so you look at the agenda they just have check it off so you'd have to go through YouTube of an
hour to say oh that's what they did with it my Is it feasible or is it the right way to go about requiring all towns and boards that deal with Town business have three to five business
days to write up an the actions they took from the agendas and have it sent to the administrator of the website and have it published I've been on the website town website and there are minutes unfortunately the finance
minutes stop at 20 2016 which isn't it's not really good if you want to follow the finances of the town uh other boards I see and they have the
agenda and they write write what would happen like the school committee minutes they have a big long agenda then they publish this thing okay uh what action was taken and they have written not typed what the action
was for that particular agenda item so it just makes it easier for boards to communicate what you're doing to the people to the town uh so with a warrant say a warrant obligating all
towns uh boards and uh committees to be required to send to the town's website within three to five business days a summary of the actions they took at that previous meeting is that a warrant could do that or does the select board have
to obligate all towns and Boards I was going to say Mass General law says 30 days right from when the meeting occurs so we wouldn't be able to do a bylaw I
don't think on that right it would be more policy or procedure versus a bylaw yeah which would be up to the select board but I do have to say a lot of the people who serve on our boards in our committees are full they work full-time somewhere else so to give them
three to five business days is not a lot of time and they've just spent four hours in a meeting the night before and then in two days they're supposed to have it up and ready to go so I do want to be cognizant of their time as well because they're already serving and trying to give back to the community so
I don't know that three to five business days would be enough time well can I can I ask you a question at the end of this meeting someone must be taking notes or so we have yes we do have someone up
in the town administrative um office that does our minutes um she goes through the YouTube videos and types them up for us but it takes a while because are extremely long well see that that goes into the difference of interpretation
right when I say summary when I say summary I I don't want you to do a whole paragraph but like on Mr Matthews thing here you can say he he he was he suest he suggested a warrant well warrants
won't work we will um think about a different approach for Mr Matthew to get these things done you know what I'm saying you like that idea I really do I just don't know if three to five business days is enough but it's it's
definitely not enough and each board is different each board is made up different as a select board we're one of the only or a few it's probably the only board that has actually some that is a town employee say as a fulltime Town
employee that actually does our minutes other committees or town boards do not some Town boards are elected uh some committees are appointed some boards are paid some boards are not so it comes
into again the the time frame and I mean and and as I see and I've seen it over the years um less and less people are want to be appointed to a board or committee or actually run run for a um a public you know board such as select
board School Board or things like that because it is it is time consuming yeah but I I hear you're saying but um for us to have gam is was huge uh gcam you know really wasn't part of the meetings many years ago so to kind of sit there and
watch it and actually hear what was said versus to read a couple sentences as to what was said and may not tell the whole story where someone can you know uh go through and see it I I did see you know recently um uh one of the Facebook's
pages that uh someone actually put together like a time frame of when certain things were on the on gcam as far as the recording so I thought that was helpful so uh but it's definitely something for us to look at without a doubt and kind of see what we
could do um in regards to that five six months ago I went to um the community TV over here and I spoke with someone oh I spoke to at a meeting he was filming and I said this
is more than 6 months ago I said don't you have software because I seen it done don't you have software that indexes the video so I could type in uh Glenn ston and immediately search the indexing of the
video and say oh there's he's talking or once again Mr Matthew's proposal so you type in Mr Matthew in the soof W would search the video and stop right where Mr math just talking now I asked that fell
there he says oh once we get a new director we'll be able to get that now I haven't spoken to him since and and I I will again because I think that would be so much easier uh for Town people to get information from the things that are
happening right instead of going through an hour and a half of a YouTube thing there see your point too sir there is uh technology out there where someone can take a a video and that can be transpired into actually transcript of
what was said and who said it what was said it's always not perfectly correct so you kind of go back and tweak it but it does pick up on things I mean that's just technology what technology is today versus years ago but with that comes a a cost and I don't have you know gam wants
to look at that or the town can look at something but I mean your point is well taken what doubt yeah I appreciate if if uh I could get feedback on on that committee proposed committee on researching what to do with the school you know what either
regionalizing or something else that could be other options that there's a lot of bright people in town you know here too that can come come up with something to educate our children and thank you very much but to your point too and and the other pieces
as far as uh the meeting minutes U and I can say for this board the the the the Committees that this board appoints will reach out to those committees and ask for more a quicker response as far as um minute meetings and we can also do what
the other uh committees and boards are elected just from us to let them know that you came in and and you know and I'm sure it's not just your concern it's other people's concern as well and and if we can you know move a you know move those minutes along quicker and get them
posted and even if they're skeleton minutes like he was saying to like this is the topic this is what the decision was this is the topic this is what the decision was instead of a whole transcript we just got to remember though when minutes are put out minutes are put out so you can't put out a m a
transcript of minutes and then call it minutes and then come back and change the minutes right at a later date so we want to make sure that it's it's done good correctly well we could you know these were the topics that were discussed at a meeting it all comes whether what they
to decide whether not that's actually minutes for that meeting or not minutes for that meeting so so that's things that we can't look at because technically until we approve minutes they're not they're not accurate until we actually review them say yes they're approved good point yeah yeah
thank you thank you very much thank you all right so Kathy we do have um gu showed up late had lot to say that's all much so Mr Edwards is not
here so Kathy we do have five minutes before the charter Day committee meeting okay um I have can you on his correspondence um Jeremy Herer um he
sends a letter in of resignation for zva yeah so do we have any vacant spots besides him no there another vacant yeah we just have another associate if you know we're always looking for people for
the zoning board of appeals so so far two bacon positions so if anyone is interested in the gry zoning board of appeals you can call Cathy and let her know um I just want to let you know that
the Capital Improvement uh committee is going to be meet meeting on Tuesday February 25th uh Russ Anderson wanted to uh me to let you know that the the fire chief
committee has met as a committee and are reviewing resume resumés and scoring um they are going to schedule to meet again on 219 to determine who moves forward to the assessment we have a rough date of March 12th for that
perfect and um after the board had met last week um and you had sent about um that planning board to look at the um um adus doing
the dwellings and stuff and remember they had said they weren't going to do anything Chris reached out to Ken and he said to um I think that would be fine and we can compare something to that effect wherever single family homes are allowed RS
rmbc we learn through the final regulations that District refers to whatever ffs are allowed by right or with a special permit so those are the three zones we will also be adding the definitions appropriate from the state
legislation so they are willing to add it to the zoning bylaws at first they weren't going to but um they they are going to they said um and uh and I don't know if you saw that
we got um from e um lenry uh for um the MDI Gap networks grant program Randy um was um
one of the municipalities um that the was awarded part of the grant Y vot in continue on um adding some um more Broadband to where it can't be in uh
nice I think that's all for now oh other than that we also got um actually the conservation got from the executive off Office of the energy and environmental Affairs um about the dam
owner and I did pass that on Dave ler because I believe that's what he's working on right so we got the extension for it yeah um okay and I did send it to him also as well as conservation then we did receive a letter um which I think we
what was it discussed in the last select board meeting about our Building Commissioner because we posted it so we do have his letter in here as well right and we I you guys have a meeting on Thursday where you'll be interviewing for uh applicants for this
position okay all right so it is 6:13 if um everyone is okay we can move to the Charter Day committee since our appointment is here for 6:15 Randy if you would like to come up
please Hi how are you how are you good yourself oh good thank you okay it's just uh couple things we wanted to call over it's uh letting the chartered Day committee
actually sell water at the charter day I mean it's just all about pricing making money for Charter day so Randy I'm sorry can I stop you there can you just say your full name your address and then your position on the board my name is Randy
gav 34 New llo Road in grany uh I'm the chair of grany crany Charter days thank you so for selling the bottled water how much do you guys want to sell that for well okay but
here's like $2 a bottle and it would just be sold at the charter Day trailer uh well it possible maybe two spots because like there's nothing to drink when you come across the bridge so if we had somebody over by that bridge
area with you know water I mean because I know that's that was my problem in 2022 is finding a bottle of water you have to walk all the way over to the other side and uh even at $2 a bottle the profit
margin is great compared to uh what everybody else is charging so okay so um but to the volunteers and to the it would be free yes I think if you have enough
volunteers to do that to set two people up just to sell water that would be excellent because we did not have enough volunteers but I don't know how the other two board members feel about the bottle of water well becomes the the final Piers
yeah but then is there something that goes line with it CU now we're serve we're selling something CH now selling something well they do uh the chatter day chair has the common vix license that they put out right yeah we haven't
gotten any yet right but so he's got to fill out all the licenses so and what happens if they don't sell all the water then what what you doing with the water that's easy I mean if they don't sell the water whatever doesn't get sold
I'll buy I don't mind I mean I'll go pick it up and buy it and then then that just get reimbursed as [Music] well um does it create a conflict with the vendors that so are or no I think if
anything it would just create a conflict on the ride side because nobody sells anything on that side besides the ride company yes but you're going to stay on this on the other side I'm still going to stay on the the other side but at the bridge also you know not directly against the bridge but when you first
come across it right there and then down by the the the committee trailer that's it okay so just two spots kind of where the petting zoo is yeah because literally you have to walk all the way around but then you
know that's the other thing um I problem yeah just those two spots I guess too are we looking to do it as more of a convenience for people that's yeah pretty much that's it just it's all it is is a convenience for people to be able to get bottle water here or a bottle water at the other end well I
guess I'm I'm asking is is the committee looking to purchase you know water from Costco or something like that no Restaurant Depot so it's so it's 40 bottles of water for $7 to the point of making it i' rather
see us you know charge a dollar a bottle and then they just say because it's more convenient for people if you're looking to kind of serve that's when it becomes a problem for the vendors because they're all charging three to three to $4 a bottle for water but is still you're still undercutting whether it's $2 or $1 well
$1 $2 whichever you know I'm just even if it's $1 it's still there's still a profit being returned to just the committee that's all I'm worried about and I'm looking at both ways as if it's a convenient for people to have water there yes and it's not too costly to say
well she $2 for a v of water we're not trying to make we're trying to do as a convenience but also make a little profit as far as like a donation to Charter days if you yeah that's that's pretty much all it's going yeah so yeah
sorry uh and I suppose the first place to look in I'm not quite sure the mechanisms here but if the town enters into contracts with the with the vendors that's really going to be the first place that you look to
see you know what if any restrictions there would be for the town to essentially enter the marketplace um if these folks uh these vendors are if they pay the town something in order to
participate um I I'm sure they would have some questions as well so I would say the first place to look is with the contracts that we have that we have with these vendors in terms of restrictions
if any of the uh chartered a committee from essentially entering the marketplace even for something like convenience you know if there were water taps or water you know uh bubblers or something like that around that that's free you know that that's already
existed that's one thing but to be entering the marketplace that may be a little bit something different so I would just encourage everybody to look at the uh the agreements that they signed with the vendors first there's nothing in there that set states that the that were
restricted on selling anything okay all right um because we also sell t-shirts and other stuff there too or we did in the past we'd like to try do that again
um and then uh well not this year because I already have people sending me in contracts but for next year raising the food vendor price $400 per food vendor and uh if they get water bring it
up to uh at a make it a 100 so it'd be 500 what is it for water right now Randy uh 75 no so it so you're asking to go from 350 to 400 for 2026 which seems like a reasonable increase to me but when you
say to 500 for water what are they paying right now for because there's only five Prime spots that can get water hook up right yeah they're so it goes uh it goes up $50 it be uh they they charge
them yeah I'm trying to remember if it was yeah the contract 450 that we charged for water I thought it was 400 sorry it's uh yeah it was uh $400 feet okay so it's
$50 at more for uh water so you guys want to go from 400 currently this year to 500 for water well we won't be able to do it this year already have contracts sent in from people which don't have the water in their Li they're what they want so I
won't be able to charge them the 400 or the extra feet for the water so we would have to wait till next year now because of the fact that yeah I have two or three contracts in okay so well I guess none of the contracts are
signed yet no no none are signed well I guess what is concerned with going up to $50 now this current year I think what he was saying is because they already reached out to food vendors and sent them the contract um so they they're filling out
the contract with that current price that's already on there okay yeah so then because it's butcher uh butcher whatever and the nutmeg but I have to go over that whole contract because they want to put two trailers in and each one
is different but then it's going to run into something with uh one of the other vendors so I have to kind of go over all their stuff and take out stuff um so yeah because of that fact and then okay you you said there's five
water spots why I can't remember off the top of my head it's either four or five for the prime spot because that's all the Board of Health will let hook up to the water so it's you're restricted by the Board of Health which you you guys should be contacting shortly so that you
know what is required of you oh yeah because I'm trying to understand why they won't allow the any other tra they don't want too many splits within the water and having it get contaminate the well so they have to have you're going to have to have the plumbing inspector come and evaluate the or inspect the
valves and make sure they have backflow preventors so that nothing goes back into our well contaminating the drinking water all right so Fred Maran did it two years ago which is our plumbing inspector for the town um he went there with me and we walked through everything
to make sure that it was um what the Board of Health was looking for yeah because I know that usually they they they split off in I mean you go to any fair in any state in Massachusetts Connecticut Rhode
Island New York Vermont New Hampshire they split off they why off Y and then they can have more more people attached to the water um all right so but so the board okay going from 350 to 400 for next year oh
yeah yeah that's see problem and then 400 to 500 for water yes perfect next is uh making Friday parking price $10 instead of the $5 so it' be Frid Friday and Saturday or 10 Sunday or
five which is the slower day of which is what we had back in 2022 we had the $10 for Friday no we had five 10 five are you sure yes okay because but the way I look at it is the biggest spend we have the better veillance we have the truck poles more
things going on in that one day so the the price on the last day should be lower only because of the you know it's Sun it'll draw more people in um compared to staying at $5 what time
does it open on Friday it's 5 to 11 but I do know Glen it's a busy night well it definitely is a busy night but where someone can come in you know Saturday and park for eight hours or $10 and then
it's I guess the problem that we faced when I ran it two years ago was that we were in a deficit on Friday because the truck polls are going to be over 5 grand you get a good band in there from 8 to 11 it's at least two grand so you're already Seven Grand in and we didn't
make the money back with the $5 parking so we had to go into our savings and that fair was over $50,000 that year and we still went into the savings even with what we grossed so I think what ry's trying to do is stop from going into the
savings because there's only $112,000 left and that used to be at 30,000 and every year it just keeps dwindling and I know we're not trying to make money but we're trying to at least break even so we have something left and we don't have to go back to the taxpayers and say and we have money for the
fair I'm not opposed to it I mean does it does it cost to to to everything yeah um but you know if we do do this I would ask that the for kind looks at and says okay it worked out and this is why we
did it because we broke even not that we made extra money that's not people think that you know they look at Char days as celebration of grany and a benefit to the gramby residents um as well so kind of May me look at the part there like I
said is what you know I'm fine with it you know you are bringing people in to park a car for $10 is is is really reasonable I think in in some go for events it's $25 $20 yeah mer yeah so I
think I think it's you know it's a it's a fair I mean it's been $5 how many years I know a long time on Fridays well the advantage is with grany day we don't like I'll say like Big E where they charge you to park and then they charge
you to get in we only charge one parking price doesn't matter how many people you have with you so if the parking is $10 you're still getting in the whole event free no I I I agree I'm not not disputing that at all no I'm just saying
so it's not to it's it's just for us to kind of get back ahead a little bit instead of falling behind and going in the black uh the red right so that's what I want people understand is that the reason for this is again the cost of
everything has gone up over the years and like I said how many years has parking been $5 hour on on a Saturday and I I mean I Friday and I think a year or two ago is when we went up to $10 on a Saturday Saturday you know that was really to start to offset the cost of the fireworks cuz the fireworks got to
be so expensive as well yeah so like you said it's you know what it cost to operate Char days on on a Friday is more expensive than it was two years ago three years ago four years ago so I don't see a reason you know why not to you know take a look at that or or just
do it all right so we're okay with that than um using the same wording from the 2022 contract because the next one is about sending out contracts that kid no we can't send them out till after Charter day
um but using the same wording just changing the dates for 2026 um sending it out to multiple people I mean I know there's some that we don't really want to send them out too but then there's I mean to get bids
on the 2026 season instead of uh waiting on that just to get them up and going um when you say bids are you talking about the rides the rides yes the
rides so yeah because this is your last year of your contract with fineli yes rides for the three-year contract so you would send up the send out RFP after Charter days Y and you guys are gonna be tired so I would give it a month or two
oh yeah I plan on it but I'm just I'm looking at the looking ahead yeah trying to look ahead um did you already type up the RFP for us to take a look at and we would want to give it to special town counsil and make sure I'll I'll uh email it to
Kathy okay um because I have the I I was looking for it I have it printed out at home but I grab the wrong paperwork um and then about uh if thought we would be able to do a 5050
Rifle so I think that's a question for the police chief because I'm not sure in that and I don't believe uh under Mass general laws 271 section 7A um the town itself that doesn't qualify it's a not not only nonprofits that have been
operating in the Commonwealth for two years uh um I'm actually just on uh frequently asked questions uh site at mass.gov under the AG's office and one of the may have municipal or other governmental organization such as a
public school or a Conservation Commission sponsor a gaming event Raffles being considered a gaming event no is the uh answer because these organiz organizations do not fit within any of the authorized categ
under 2717a so no school can do it either no interesting how many now how many you there could be thing you know whether or not a a CH I see a nonprofit was set up like friends of grany Charter
day okay that was the 501c they could do that okay and then donate it to Charter day U but under this uh yeah section uh and it's not like we
could just set one up now I either it' have to be at least two years and uh uh then that organization has to apply for a permit uh to conduct Raffles so it's a more involved but certainly the the town
on its own does not qualify or any of its um committees or boards okay there is a friends of gry parks if you wanted to reach out to them if you wanted to have it just you know as like
a a community building thing or something like that but they've been established for a god louberry set it up I don't even know how many years ago but they're a 5013c called friends of gr B Parks Kathy I'm not remembering is it
Jason I don't remember his last name that's in the chair of that I don't know I just remember that Tim Abbot oh yeah Tim Abbot and Nick Robinson yeah I think are on it
yeah I think they just had a they post on Grammy good um good news Grammy and Grammy toown meeting with dates that they have and they have a Facebook page too so I can send that to you um and then the question about adding a
few more vendors because I noticed like in 2023 there were just a few vendors that were selling drinks I mean drinks don't really come down to a food vendor so because they're serving
drinks the way I view it they're not serving food they're serving drinks so if we could make it so that it was uh 12 food vendors and a couple say two or three ones that are
doing you know like uh the fruit mix drinks and stuff like that instead of just saying okay it's only 12 vendors that's it there's that yeah so that would the contract that you had in front of you was up to the discretion of the committee and then they presented it to
the board um so we upped it from 10 to 12 I think in 2023 and that was based on the capacity of putting the food trucks down the tree belt with keeping that corner open so that the fire department and EMS can get to and from if there's a backup TR
traffic in that back corner so I would just advise that you keep that back corner open for the fire department and the police department to get to and from if they need to get in that way um and then are you still making them self-contained so they have to have
their own generators and water source everything yes but that was one other thing I wanted to ask because um John brought up at the meeting about bringing a generator in um which would be another expense for
the committee no expense because uh he works there oh okay so I'm bringing in one of the generators to be able to use to be able to supply uh which we would still have to charge
like $75 or whatever they charge for the post things for people to connect but it would take the way it would take away from them having to go out and buy gas for a generator that's going to have to have gas putting every
four hours if we have a generator on site I don't have a problem with that I would just I remember back remember though if you're supplying the generator and it blows and it breaks something like that you're you're responsible yeah we have some like John
stated we have somebody on in sight to be able to help us out so right you know like he said he's right there so so that did happen to us one year where the generator blew and um gos from poppies had to call in an emergency one which
was 2 hours behind in the meantime n none of the food trucks had electricity including the lights to the food tent and the beer tent so just something to think about what um back then we were just trying to take the responsibility off the town and off the committee um so
that's why we had them being self- sustaining so like Glenn said I would just he on the side of caution the more you add the more you're going to be responsible for y Glen has volunteered many times at the fair got stuck there
because we don't have volunteers so I just want to like I think it's great all the ambition and everything you guys have just keep in mind you're going to you're going to need volunteers yes everything runs smoothly with volunteers but when you don't get them people stay
yeah the uh the generator you're speaking of would be a large portable one I assume yes from like a rental company uh from qfs okay which in turn we would turn around and let them put some of their equipment on the the area
like they did in 2022 for the kids to be able to go and look at him and see them and stuff like that um I mean it's a even exchange kind of you know it's they have their generator there they have you know like a the one
of the big trucks and uh excavator or bulldozer or something like that set on the property support the kids I just want to kind of so it's the generator would be like a
large large capacity generator sell to sell Power yeah it only it would only be to be connected to right so but are we charging a fee for people that connect to it
yes and this is coming from where qfs and so on the committee working there yes that's more of a conflict i' I'd stay away from that yeah because that was uh the part about getting it in through
so that's yeah that I think W is saying that the committee can't make money off of something they're getting for free because a connection that a guy has that work for them so we can have our Town Council look at it but it's it it sounds like it might be a conflict so actually
you're bringing something in where it's something that didn't go out and give the opportunity to other people to do something like that but we can take a look at that he's here you heard what was said so and I just say that CU I want to make sure that you know they were protecting
the town but also looking out for an individual ual that that you know may not that wants to do wants to do good I don't wants some to get you know surprised by um other than one other question I
didn't have on here is um what is the problem with the the grany charter day uh getting the insurance and um running the beard time so I don't know any Town insurance that
will give us a one- day permit or a two-day permit to sell alcohol it's like $1,000 that's a huge liability for a town I for the town to to be the merchant essentially Charter Day committee to run the beer tent well we
would hire bartenders to come in it's $100 a day uh they Che the IDS at the right there as they come in and stuff but that's $100 a day for each one of them four four bartenders that rotate
the shift and they get to keep their tips the rest of the money from the sale of the uh the beer would go directly into Charter day funds one I don't know if the town would want to get involved
excuse me you know other than hiring vendors um to take the liability on that I know it's a huge something go wrong and we're we're subject in the town to a huge liability yeah
um you know that's not necessarily a legal opinion but uh anytime whether it's a private client or whoever wants to get uh involv or goes to the town here to get a one-day license for for whatever we require that they have all
the requisite um liability insurance and certainly uh the liability insurance it's it's to get the liability insurance would be
$1,000 well you're putting it from what insurance company not the town's insurance company no no not the towns it would be separate we like but if someone if something were to happen Randy I think what my um concern would be then the TA it's the taxpayers
money that would have to pay out whatever suit was filed so even though it's a town committee running it if something were to happen then it falls back on the town and then the taxpayers would have to Fork that bill over and I don't think that I would want to do that
I know I don't want to do that to them it's different if it's a private insurance company and they're picking up it but it would be the taxpayers picking up it right under private insurance well the insurance company would but there's always a cap to it and we depending in
you know Insurance comp say the cap was a million dollars and that loss used to be $2 million than so it's to me it's just a yeah I'm just a liability that I'm not interested in undertaking and just because of the
what is that could happen um you know I know we have the the loue there two 266 266 did it do they they they usually do donate money back right was that no they stop donate money back I don't think
they did the last year I'm not I'm not positive you don't have the treasures report from the committee of 2023 right 20 uh no um I was just told that they did not in 2022 they did not uh give
anything back and I do know we can't ask them for a donation because they're a nonprofit so they either donate or they don't yeah that's up to them so so just to but if your point Sorry I couldn't if they sponsor the beer tent then the onus
is on them yes they but I'm wondering is see your point is to to make money they add money to Future Charter days and you know make Charter days better and better as we go down the road is
there another company that can come in just the same way the other vendors do where they could yes is is that a is that a possibility so he absolutely could he would have to um do the same thing make up drop a contract or just
engage with somebody else that does it I know um the beer guy has done some stuff in self Hadley Affairs and stuff like that um I don't know who else around here does that who's a vendor who um sells who does the alcohol and the
Outsourcing of it so that's something that you guys could look into and see if you could find someone where you could make a profit off but yeah because if possible we'd like to but like well this is another question I
have about it about putting a food truck over by that area where the beer is because I mean people to leave the tent go back then get back in line and wait if there's a food truck over in that area I mean they don't have to walk all
the way through the whole you know part the Park area and then I'm just trying to make it easier I mean and then they can you know see where their kids on and stuff um by sending them over to the food truck or whatever I know they're not allowed in there but they have them
under the Gazebo and going around doing things but with a food truck right there and plus I also helps with people are sitting in there drinking too much I mean and mean how long we had alcohol there now
think five years six long Bo more than long 10 I would say three or four years well no because it was on and off right and then um I brought it back when I was on there with this they had Opa Opa yep yeah right in the past yeah right so
that does answer the previous question we we had a different vendor in there U but that's a discussion to have with the the police chief because um he's had some reservations about you know we wouldn't have it inside of there
they would still have to come out but they wouldn't have to go walking all the way all over um to the other side was just put something there and then um the other thing is blocking off for uh
the truck pulls about just putting one vendor in over there I mean at in the truck pole area so that way uh we don't have other people trying to snoo in there and not pay into that might be
something maybe for the future because I think you know some of the things you're talking about someone would consider a prime location well it's a one night prime location that's just it but but the last one you had poppies sneak in over there never paid to be open oh it wasn't poppy
um no it was a cousin of another company dos oh okay dos but still somebody sneaking in over there to try and sell food if you have somebody that's over there it's only one day spot but it's a prime spot well that's
what I'm saying so you may maybe not this year but the the following years maybe that you know if someone's wishing to want that spot it cost a little bit more for those those particular spots because chances are they may have bringing more I mean it depends how you look at it
because you know because if if that that particular vendor is there and you know people aren't going to walk may not walk the extra distance they may just put it in get their food from that particular vendor which is going to benefit um that
that company that they kind of got to look at it other vendors may not be well you know so I guess you got look at the the whole scenario where you kind of right now you have kind of a fair playing Ground because you got them
all acoss right and also in your your only other thing I want to change is in the contract for uh the amusements the only thing you have in there is allowing them rides
they bring in games that they charge rent on they bring in food trailers that they charge rent on and they charge them by the foot so they're making what they pay the town back just by charging for those
games and if you go to a fair each game pays the fair grounds for that concession stand that's on there no matter if it's food game or whatever so I mean their contract only States rides so and I never knew that I mean we
I took it over from Micheline Turon and the contract was they bring them the rides and they always brought food they always brought their games it was what they offered on that side of the park so but are there any
fair I mean under your contract the only thing it states is that they have rights to rides nothing about con sessions nothing about food just the rides and I know for a fact that they're charging each food vendor they're charging each game
trailer per square well per footage if it's a center well they call it a center joint they charge them a side and a half so they get paid for that I mean so the only thing I would say um for this year just because it was a
three-year contract is honor it the way it was held out the pre previous two years and then when you send out the RFP you can clearly Define it within there that's a that's a good point to revenue it's something I did
for a while and yeah I I just know all the the ways that they do things so I mean yeah I never even thought about that when we did it because does like they said in their contract in finelli's contract I went
through the whole thing and I'm like wait minut the only thing they're guaranteed here is the rides nothing else we can still allow them to bring any other things and when you do a future contract but you're going to pay for it yeah exactly yeah so just brings
put more money back into the fund of the board so all right but um thank you Randy for yours and the committee members work on this I really appreciate it um but yeah that's that's pretty much it
all right thank you that's some good that's some good information right there it really is good things you brought up all right have a good night everyone thank you Randy you as well Randy too the
uh the committee may want to look at a a three-day parking pass that people going to buy it in advance an advance parking pass it was something that we looked into in 2023 but we ran out of time because it like just crept up on us really fast um but yeah so if it was $10
$10 and $5 maybe they get a three-day parking pass for 20 or something like that yeah where they get a little discount on it if they're going to be there several days even if they go two days there's still moving yeah they're either breaking even right and then if they go on Sunday they
save5 kind of get got put a couple things restrictions like a like a a plate number or something like that because if not sending your plate number we send you back files to download because you know people go there all three days you know and it's
you know it's might be worth it to them thank you again take care all right Piner Valley Planning Commission services for ta walked before you ton oh [Music]
no who Rino to as well hi Eric welcome how is everyone good how are you I'll be better I blew out my achilles so why'd you do that I you
know plain stupidity I think is what it goes with but we'll just leave it at that ah I'm getting used to it it's all right could be worth all right Eric so I did um we got a chance to look at the contract Y and I
did send it to um our labor Council and so I think Kathy gave you the um yeah there's some some slight changes yeah did you get I know you were waiting U for a little while so I wasn't sure if you got some time to look it over I I
would have to put this back before Erica just to make sure she does our contracts and Etc but I don't think there's anything in here that's out of line I use pretty standard um language for whatever we did so I couldn't really comment on that it doesn't look like anything big no it
looks like it's more um making sure that because it's a pioner valley Planning Commission and they're a temporary employee that they're not employee of grany correct um and then liability as far as litigation it looks
like yeah I like I said I would just have to share this with Erica and have she's our expert in contracts I don't pretend to know the details but okay um again none of the language changes are significant that might be the most significant one is the litigation
versus maybe you've improved our contract language for us so we would appreciate that as well my only concern in this whole process is Ira's availability is not great during this time but on the other hand he will be a great resource to whomever you are bringing in um
and you know you'll have enough time and space to figure this out and so it's not great but at the same time it's when our town Administrative Assistant inter terum both allinone is on vacation he's here all five days okay so that's the
good thing guys so we'll that's need it it's almost like I could say this but I know you can't do it it'd be easier for you to just talk to Irish straight out but then you have to put it out and you have to do all the things about bidding and or a job and all that us
yeah so you know it's six to one half the one after the other so I don't know but I think Ira as you all know is very competent he knows his stuff I trust him he's you know he's a natural for
this kind of thing so if he can help out gramby and we can help out gramby I TR I made it not to exceed contract if the numbers come out less because Less hours are done so be it there's a little bit of time for me to kind of watch over things in here not that I really feel like I'm going to have to spend a lot
with Ira but and in my time if he's doing everything right should be minimal as well so I just tried to build a contract that would get you all the way through to where you wanted to get to cover us for a little bit of time that we're spending and and leave it at that um the one thing I did want to ask
you a question about let me see if it's in this well okay so in the original one that you had sent it said $106 an hour for services for the director of Economic and Municipal collaboration but we're only seeking ta so that was a different
thing no that's me oh that's my time the just a supervisor whatever and like I said my time is minimal in this thing but I just if you get a invoice back from us that shows that's that rate that's me so we had to put it in the okay contract
itself 15 hours yeah exactly and that's all I minimize my time it could be 10 hours by the time we're done I you know okay yeah and that's all lumped into that 12,000 yeah he said it's 150 hours for the position and 15 hours for
me just in case and I honestly will not you know whatever if I'm not working it I'm not gonna bill you for it so okay I appreciate that yeah all right so realistically we're at the 10 right now yep and then tomorrow
it says he could but you need your um you need um sorry I'm BL Kimberly and Kimberly I know is out of town but I will do my best to see what I can do to um expedite this and and see what we can do so realistically if if at the soonest
would be the 19th and the 20th where he could be with Kathy for at least two days prior to was there only two availability dates well I have come in tomorrow but again we're waiting for and that's a the other board members agree as well well the the other way to do this yeah
is we backdate the contract then start of the contract to say February 1 and that way he can work whatever T whatever time you need him to until the contract is signed and then the contract will be backdated that way but that means he's working without a contract for the town
on a temporary basis if that doesn't fit right with what you want to do then I wouldn't do it it's it's not quite kosher but it you know you know he's he's just providing advice so my the safest thing to do is have it dated the day that you're signing it and
move from there so this could be this could be emailed to yeah to to I don't can't believe you can take a look at it see it looks kind of me yeah yeah yeah exactly so I'll work on it first thing tomorrow morning and get it straightened out as much as I can do we have a meeting on Thursday
Kathy we can add that to the oh you have meeting on Thursday we do um we're doing uh building commission interviews uhuh but I couldn't ask khaki to add that to the agenda for Thursday that would be fine I'll just touch his availability is
only the 19th and 20th he just had things planned already at s so and uh he said you know when when he's around even if he's traveling or whatever he'd be happy to answer you know zoom and phone calls and all that kind of stuff so he's going to make himself as flexible as he can it's just
the timing was he had a trip here planned and a trip there planned he's semi retired you got to justify I mean yeah and then he's away March 6 to the 20th but could be available like you said yeah could be available truth of the matter he's going
skiing out west I don't know the details of where he's going but hey he earn to the right the only thing that scares me there for us is Kathy's out March 15 that's when you're officially yes
retired good for you anybody who can enjoy retirement I say do it yeah good for you I'm so sad for us so happy for you though that's right so I will uh get in touch with Ira first thing in the morning and Kimberly
first thing and we'll go from there all right so I think at this I'm okay with the way um our labor Council has the contract so do you guys want to wait till Thursday we'll have Kimberly take a look over it and then on Thursday we can vote on it or we can we vote
today without the I mean I'm I'm as a board we're okay as it reads for us so I'm fine with it U the only thing I'd ask if Kim really wants to make changes to it then we we see the contract again with the changes we made okay what you could do is vote
to sign yeah and then like he just said if there's a change we'll just dock yeah amend it or whatever we have to do that way you don't have to look at it twice I mean really I mean Thursday it's not that far away so yeah now I know you're interviewing building inspectors but one of the projects we're
going to take up with some DTA money the district local technical assistance program is looking at a regional um building inspector setup so we'll see it's coming but it's not coming right away but it's something that we want to look at figuring out because we know you then South Hadley then Holio then ammer
it's like it's chairs at a table people keep be moving from one position to another so all right do we have a motion I will make a motion that we enter into agreement with the town of grany and pineer Valley Planning Commission for
the temporary Town Administrator Services now second the motion any further discussion discussion all in favor I I cool thank you Eric very much you thank you do you want me to sign can you send
a sign version like electronically let's do that do you want me to sign the one with all the red on it or no we should clean okay why we um just wait because if there's no changes then we can sign it on Thursday yeah we sign it on that make
a difference right it's not gonna make a difference she Kim still wants she yeah we got to take one look at it at our end yeah I can't I can't make that call so okay yeah and then tentative start date of Ira the 19th I will double check everything with him okay okay absolutely
I we're signed before the 19th we good so yeah's that I just was yeah just trying to get him in here before Kathy leaves for a vacation but it can't come until the 19 right well that according to this so that's why I'm saying just confirm
with Ira well that's well is there any pressing matter that you have for him that's a very Loy question that's why I'm asking her like is there something critical you need advice on today like tomorrow start thing no
no CU we could always you could talk to me I can talk to him I can talk to you just make sure relay information I mean I'm familiar enough with town you know contracts and policies and what things have to be done the big thing is that the budgets um are going to be due on
the 21st yep and um after that um Chris asked today too who is doing the ones for the town under you guys guys all of them is he as the town
cter and the previous Town Administrator I I think for continuity purposes that make sense is he willing to do it for for feet yeah okay because that'll be the first thing
to be honest that uh he will be dealing with is the 2026 budget in a meeting with the um superintendent and Dave and you guys don't have a DAT for that no I was waiting
oh so are you looking for Iris help with the budget as you go forward okay I will make sure I'm to say if we're already paying him that makes sense too instead of paying two people the funds of running a local town government huh new adventure that's
right do you need me for anything else tonight I don't think so I think than we good thank you for coming in had a great story about how I can do myself but I was going up to the steps I don't have like I Wasing or whatever he
was the back country and no I was going up a set of steps missed a step and that was Mountain line came running out in front of you right that's right for there than it is back that kind of thing yeah have a good night everybody take care you too all right next is Kathy did you have
anything else for us okay next is for to accept departmental reports make a motion to accept the departmental reports I'll second the motion any further discussion I just
want to sorry I just want to note Dave BR and his crew again with the recent storms and stuff like that they're doing great yeah no while taking care of all the storms they're also fixing all the generators
in the town so that we have running generators they've had numerous of issues that have come up and um which people don't know about going see and just continuing to keep the roads dur these recent snowstorms solid and clear yeah
so I just wanted to thank Jeremy carrier for his explanations on the questions that I had at the last meeting he clarified it all we are saving money on salt which is surprising buying it from WP
Mason apparently they own everybody so so thank you to Jeremy for clarifying all that yeah that was very nice to reading too um and I know that he said the Min flits weren't working in the West Street building so they've had to um spend more
money on oil than normal do you know what they keep that thermostat at is it like just above because nobody's in the building so I hope they're not like heating it to 70 or something so I would assume I would think so just enough so that the pipes don't freeze yeah I'm
sure it's more that's why I mean so Mini Splits will keep it to a certain point and then the furnace will kick on when it gets below that so you know mini splits are nice during the in small well in cool weather but they do
work harder in cold watera I there's actually certain point where they're not as as efficient so and that's where the boiler will kick on supp to offset the more the building
and it was very nice to see that there's a lot of people accessing the police department for our seats installations so I think that's really important especially being a new parent um I know I I utilized the hospital when they had it but I think that's definitely a good
thing um I think my only one concern Kathy was the Council on Aging I still don't see on here any Wellness calls um I did reach out to um Natalie about the wellness calls and she said that um she believes Shiner Outreach should be doing
it even though the last director it was the director that did it and I guess I would just ask that at least if the Outreach is doing it we need to see it on here I don't want the seniors that are homebound that don't have anybody being stuck at home with nobody checking on them so this this needs to happen we
oversee the counseling aging director we want to make sure it happens yeah and to us that yeah I don't care who does it make sure it happens right I will and that to her tomorrow yeah and as the Director she should be reporting off to us and letting us know that it is
happening that the seniors are safe at home that they are being checked on I think that was just something that I'm really concerned about with this weather you know with the snow and stuff they could be stuck in their house with no food no yeah yeah before they just called us to make sure every other you
know every couple of days to make sure okay yep thank you you're welcome right anything else all in favor I I next is to approve and sign maintenance warwards
I will make a mo motion that the town of gry authorized for payment warrant number 48 8 dated 131 2025 for the total sum of 1,81 2016,
17649 I'll second motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I'll make a motion at the town of br authorized for payment payroll account summary uh town of gry Warrant
number 47 dated 128 2025 a total dispers I gave you you did give me a moment yep separate thank you you're welcome total dispersement of
and 42 cents dated 13125 warrant number 25-47 I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion I would just say I'm going to abstain from the
teacher salary and the select board salary I you want to say your statement first I say after we vote but yeah all in favor and Dave and I vote necessity for the selectmany I will make a motion the town of gramby
authorized for payment warrant number 46 dated 1:24 [Music] 2025 with a total dispersement for Warrant 46 of 393,000
[Music] 4 I'll second the motion any further discussion I did notice uh Kathy that we are paying the Northampton veteran services so does that mean our vsso is done yes he is
okay I thank him for his time here because he did a great job he's still doing the uh once a month the breakfast oh very nice that's good nice all right all in favor hi
thank you I'm sorry Kathy I forgot to ask actually as I flip the paper over attorney August um do you have an update on the cable contract I know they were still waiting for um the contract to come back oh from Comcast yes okay
when does that expire because I know we entered into that agreement 18 months prior right yeah end I will make a motion the town of grany authorized for payment warrant number 46s dated 1 124
2025 with a total dispersement on warrant 46s of $232,900 a second motion any further discussion all in favor I I thank you sorry right next is to approve and sign
2025 common vict licenses okay and these W part of it because those are yeah that's Kathy stuff I will make a motion that the town of grany uh wave the permit fee
for friends of grany elderly Incorporated uh dated 1 12925 at 31 North Street gry Mass 01033 there are two
licenses they have one yeah this one is the common V Li a second motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor we'll make a motion the Commonwealth of Massachusetts town of gramby to certify
the friends of the gry elderly 32 Kendall Street grany mass 01033 is hereby granted a common Vic license in said town of grany and that place only and expires December 31st
2025 unless sooner suspended or revoked on license number 25-30 dated February 10th 2025 I'll second the motion any further discussion discussion in favor I
I will make a motion the Commonwealth of Massachusetts town of grany to certify rocking M Ranch doing business as Clara's Coupe at 198 Bachelor Street gry mass
01033 is hereby granted a Vic license in said town of grany in that place only and expires December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended or revoked with a license number of
25-29 dated February 10th 2025 I'll second the motion any further discussion all in favor I I I will make a motion that the town of grany wave a permit fee dated
12920 129 2025 for the friends of the grany elderly 31 North Street Street gry mass 01033 and this one is for the entertainment license a second motion any further
discussion discussion all in favor I and make a motion the Commonwealth of Massachusetts town of grany certify that the friends of the grany elderly at 32 Kendall Street grany mask
01033 is hereby granted an entertainment license to provide entertainment as follows live entertainment consisting of bands to be held in the Gazebo located at 32 Kendall Street du Frain
Park Grammy Mass sponsored by friends of gramby elderly from 4: to 8:00 p.m. this license is granted in Conformity with the statutes and ordinances relating there to and expires December 31st 2025
unless sooner suspended or revoked license number 25-9 dated February 26 2024 2024 or 2025 oh it does say 2024 it's 25 I can change we can correct it
okay I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor all right so that was the entertainment LIC this is the entertainment LIC just you want us to sign this CA or do we
just cross off the year okay initial it yeah they were trying to send me back here I did it at home on Sunday so right next is to for the assessor's office Surplus equipment
letter uh so the town of gramy board of assessors 215b West station Street gramy Mass 01033 dear gry select board uh January
20th 2025 is the date the gry board of assessors have the following Surplus equipment that is obsolete damaged or unusable an HP Officejet Pro 6968 with the serial number of
th85 M1 n14k also an HP Laser Jet p2055d with the serial number of CNB 1 c1061 we are seeking permission from the gry select board to decommission and
recycle these items these printers have since been replaced with new equipment for our office use please advise if we have permission to decommission and recycle or if you would like these units delivered to your
office thank you Dakota Richards chairman gramy Board of assessors all with your if you guys approve then I'll have um Jeremy take care of them okay are they old do they not work yeah okay so you don't want them brought to your
office thank yeah so I will make a motion that we accept that uh second motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I thank you Kathy do we need to initial that or anything sure
it's all right next is to approve and sign a one-year extension with waste management for pickup of Municipal solid boost you previously approved this um at a meeting this is just the actual contract that you're which I believe we
made a motion to have there there something like that right at that time we did because I thought it was just the chair but was asking okay do we have to make another motion for all of us to sign it because we already well we approved it so it's
just requires a signature now so just a signature just a follow up it's already been approved and you did find the RFP Kathy for um us for the 2026 we've got to get it
out and I guess just to be clear it's the one-year extension for contract for solid waste and recycling collection and transportation services between Waste Management of Massachusetts and the town of gry
cor starting on July 1st 2025 ending on July 30th 20126 I'm going to give this back to you in a minute because there was two places we had to got to follow the tap sorry my bad get used to get used to
signing one sheet keep passing them on you want a DAT oh on the two the second page in the first page look that I even follow the tabs and I just disregarded it thank
you all right next is to approve the board and committee appointment application so I know we've been talking about this for a while on the board that um they us email Kathy and then Kathy has to search for them or try and find a phone number or try and hunt down their
email if they want to be on a board a committee so I put I had put a rough thing together for Kathy and then Kathy um doc um helped make it into something of a form so I wanted to present it to the board members to see if there was
anything else that you guys think we should have on here for board's and committee volunteer form um again it's a way that we can can contact them um they have their phone number their address their email the committee they're interested in and then their personal experience or expertise Rel relating to
the work of that committee and then down at the bottom I had looked up um a guide for members of public boards and commissions which when Kathy emails this to anyone who's interested they click on that link and it just gives them more information about being a member of a committee a
public board or commission so or a committee so it just gives them a little background so they know what they're getting themselves into what it entails and so forth so I wanted to see what you guys thought of it and if you guys agree we can um approve it and then when
someone wants to be on a border committee Kathy can email this out to them I do agree with it I did read through it quickly it's a short process easy to fill out if it gives them the information they need to volunteer for whatever Services they can for the town
I would definitely approve that yeah would be nice if that's we get so it can just be filled out online and then H submit and then I can figure that out maybe online go so we're not sending it out to someone to fill it out to set the
back they can do it right online and they submit and it goes right to you not sure we have those rights but I will look to make sure yeah because there would be a PDF um yeah filler right yeah so I L Steve now
so I will make the motion on it work well we can approve the paper one and then Steve we'll look into the online well we can still approve the online one right yeah it's the same yeah so I will make a motion to town of grany Select board accept the town of grany boards
and committee volunteer form you thinking for are we missing something no I'm just I'm just um looking at um should we have a date on here actually now that I'm thinking of it write a date that they maybe add a date to it yep add a
date I'm thinking if we have a specific time frame that we're looking for committee members and stuff you want to have a date on there so you know when it's not indefinite they're not going to be on the committee forever like I I think we can add on this too I like the the link piece but also um it'd be nice
to have all the Committees listed on there so you could tell like you can click on it it'll tell something about each committee what that committee's um charges and what they do and stuff like that so people get interested they can ask to see what each committee
does yeah they may be interested that at some but not others depending on Services thanks that second motion all right so we're g to um Kathy will add the date and then you know in
your downtime Kathy if you can make a list of the Committees and their charges or like a list of the Committees and like Len said have a link have it linked to go to their chart well their um their page on the website right not all of
them have it they don't all have it but we can look into that too because then that can be for a later dat bu right that's kind of good starting yep it gives us a chance to expand that too yeah and I would either say take the ass off and board yep or put an S on
committee so it's the same we have boards and committees or board and committee good catch all right a subordinate
committee all right any further discuss all in favor I uh so this is approve and sign the letter for open space plan correct I will read it read on behalf of the town of Granby select board I am pleased to
affirm that the select board voted to approve the 2025 open space and Recreation plan as presented on January 22nd 2025 the minutes documenting this respected approval are attached we
believe this plan is a result of the involvement excuse me of several boards departments elected officials and citizens of Grandy with the help and guidance of Pioneer Valley Planning Commission it reflects devotion and
commitment of the citizens of grany to the town's preservation and protection of Open Spaces respect for wildlife natural resources protection of our Wildlife corridors as well as for our citizens future plans for potential
growth Within These spaces this plan was prepared according to the guidelines that were issued by the executive office of energy and environmental Affairs and contains all requirements set forth we look forward to your review
of the plan and thank you for your time and attention I will make a motion now that we accept we already accepted it right we accepted the plan so now you so I will make a motion that we accept the letter of division of conservation
uh sorry the letter of intent for the open space and Recreation plan good no second motion and then it would be for me to sign out on behalf of the board as the
chair oh and Jeremy did do the 8 he did it for brown Elison and for D Frame park right he doesn't do the trails The Bachelor head Trails or anything right okay and I will make a motion that
Crystal will approve and sign for us well you made a motion to approve it and I second it oh you did okay sry yeah and then but also now to for me to sign it on the board's behalf right correct to sign back in that motion as well so
any further discussion discuss all in favor I just want to not Crystal your work on that thank you a lot of work it was it was a lot of work you under you undertook it from the from the getg going there a lot of work involved that
so I'm behalf of myself and I'm sure David you know thank the S all in favor and uh we're not going to so just so the board knows we're not going to send this to them until the minutes are
complete with just that section of the minutes where we approve the open space so we are waiting for um our secretary to finish the minutes for that day so as soon as they're finished that's when the letter will be sent all right next on the
agenda is to approve and sign the contract for for DHS LLC I will make a motion to approve and sign a contract for DHS LLC dated February 5th
20125 that I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I I might have yours I was going to say I have two here that's the one I just
you Kathy do you want all of us to sign the DHS agreement it looks like is it's a print name and one signature or is this just for the chair or you can authorize Kathy to sign on behalf of the
town I will make a motion that Crystal our chair can sign on behalf of the town or the DHS LLC plan agreement y agreement second
motion any further discussion all in favor I I I'm just giggling cath I enough she's like no I'm not no I'm not signing that all right so we do have we already got the forge Pond updates um I did want to
see if the board got a chance to look at what I started I know when we met with the planning board and the Conservation Commission I had um voiced that I would put a document together for the town of grammy goals so what I did is I created
a document where everything is going to be put together once they send it to Kathy but I also put together a document um where had the directions for the board's committees and notice plural boards committees and departments um so
that they could put their title what their goals were their action items and what their status was where they are in that goal so I wanted you guys to take a look at the objectives and goals for the select board um I know over the last
three years Glenn between me you and the other uh board member roler and then with your the addition of days we've had quite a few so I Tred to encapsulate everything over the last three years that we've talked about or discussed um I'm not sure really what to
put for Action items on some of these so that I would lean on the board for and it doesn't have to be a discussion for tonight we can go home uh look at what we've done so far on it figure out what we want to um add for the action items and then you know we can work on
updating the status for it but I was just trying to come up with a comprehensive plan and I know Kathy you were send did you send Conservation Commission and planning board what I had for them so far so they could review it at their next meeting so again I was just taking
notes as they were telling me what their goals were and I was trying to encapsulate it in this um document so if the board has any ideas or anything else they want to add to this document the only thing I'd do with elect Crystal
that I would separate each item because when you put actions next to it it it may not line up so yeah so what I was thinking for the actions is putting like one one two two 3 three but or you're just saying add a line across right
separated by a line just make that a box so anything update town website so anything you've done it would sustain that each box with they make it going to get too hard to follow yeah I do like that idea I'm not sure if I
can do it in the word document I might have to um put it into an Excel but that's okay we can do that and Glenn I know um you were um unable to attend right at 5:30 but just so you know John Edwards did not come today so Kathy's going to reach out to
him for our next meeting all right so again we don't have to do this tonight but if you guys just want to take a look at it and see if there's anything you want to add um or any action items so forth I'll do my best to fill in what I can should I Glenn do you think um send
this out with the lines here or no that's really just in our final document right CU this is going to go out out to the different boards committees and departments and so they're going to fill it out and then what I can do is add the boxes in or should I fill it out or should I send it to with the box I think
we're better off designing it that way when they get it they can put in their information they can put in the you know their actions that they took so Kathy I'll see if I can figure out how to do that in word if I can't figure out how to do it in word I'll do it in Excel just because we already I already
created it or I should be able to add the line in between those but I'll look into it and unfortunately I've got bad news for the board there's no freshwater dredging going out this year for um
environmental so I did reach out to Senator ola's office they're going to look into any kind of funding that they can give us for it um but as of right now there's no grants that can help us um I know
um well it would be helpful to talk to our two reps as well yeah so that's why thaning Mindy do and then gentle Omar Gomez yes the other day very nice gent okay so
maybe we can reach out to them to I'll email vindy and um Omar and see if we goz if we can get some funding on that and then Kathy um did the other board members get the park and wreck department old contract yet I know you
had handed it to me the one that you found no because I thought you were working with GL on that Durham okay so I'll reach out to him thank you for that reminder you're welcome all right and then oh storm water regulations we were going to get
David in here the last meeting we had with CHR or and he had sent them to Town Council the storm water you through sure talk to you you don't I don't believe so on storm water I thought there was
something else uh no yeah so I saw him today and he said that he was going to give you another week and then recall you okay okay he may have sent over this may have been a couple of weeks ago that there was no hurry on and now maybe the
well something to fall up on yes okay and then the curbside collection for January that's the RFP that you were going to get together for us Che yep so does that have to be a committee that does that or does the board work on it as a whole how does that usually work
for the municipal waste you know that might be a good question for um oh the TA okay we haven't done one of those in a long time we've extended years right 2017 yeah so we'll ask the
inum okay and then as far as the updates on the TA position we are still on in we are under negotiations with our app or with the person that we
appointed Michael Durham so those are the only updates I have for that right now um so does the board have anything else they want brought up at our next meeting so remember we have a Thursday meeting for the building um commissioner interviews and then on February 24th
we'll have a regular meeting and then February 27th we have our hearing for the Gravel Pit so it's sing enough to me yeah it's a full boote yeah um and that week Kathy will not be here so the interm TA will
be here for those two meetings and um special Town Council um Adam Costa will be here on the 27th for us so he'll physically be here instead of being online great good good it's good so I think uh those were the only
updates I have to give to the S board members but if you have anything else you want to add okay don't okay all right so we will now enter into executive session 38- 21- a-3 to discuss strategy with the
respective Collective Collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or litigating position of the public body and the chair so declares following that executive session oh and just on that exception
there uh the AG's office has said that a public body must identify uh the U um the litigation matter to be discussed um unless it was felt that even identified the uh the matter would
have a detrimental effect I don't think it would in this case one it's a public uh suit that's been filed um five corners LLC versus the town of Granby in uh the land Court in Boston
um although I do believe and the chair has indicated such that discussing the the litigation strategy in public would have a detrimental effect to the to the town position correct thank you then following that executive session we will
go into another executive session 38-21 a-2 to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with non-union Personnel or to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with non-union
Personnel do you want and that it do I have to State the person for that one okay right and then we will only come out for to adjourn the original meeting V call vote duin I Leon I sex I thank
you very much thank you