##VIDEO ID:ysRAYmn-CDg## [Music] 5:40 p.m. if you can I will call this life board meeting to order if you could please join me in the pledge of alance United States of America to the stand One Nation indivisible and justice for all so our first appointment is to discuss the goals for fiscal year 2025 uh for a joint meeting with the planning board and Conservation Commission members so um know we only have one table but should shall we come up in midd I was going to say yeah I think be best bring the chairs up closer if you want as well yeah real thank you all for coming in very good good you all so the purpose of the meeting was we've had some ideas of what we want to see happen um in the town of gramby and we wanted to reach out to you guys to see what um you see as a needing ramby and uh goals moving forward um so just to give you kind of some ideas that um we were thinking um besides the various uh positions that we are trying to fill for vacancies and such uh one of the ones that we had on here as maybe a 5 to 10 year plan was Municipal Water Supply by working with local districts and the MW that was one of the things that we wanted to do going down 202 that we thought was a need um in order to bring in new businesses and such down 202 uh secure a secure a grant writer I know we came close to having one but um we've posted that a couple times since and we haven't had one um come forward to complete the West Street building project which we are currently doing uh and we locate Our Town Offices one of the goals we had was to dredge du fra Pond as you guys know we had the feasibility study done um so I'm currently waiting for that Grant to come out it was a pilot Grant last year it's not guaranteed that it will come out but they did do fresh water dredging um so it comes out towards the end of January so I'm looking um to see if it's going to come out again uh to secure grants to update our open space and Recreation areas and one of the first steps was the open space and Recreation plan updating that which is almost done um so that was one of our other goals um and I know Dave and I both wanted the website updated and I know that's going to be some cost on the taxpayers as well um but I think it's something that's needed to be more user friendly for our citizens so and then Dave had a long list you want to touch on some of the goals or do you guys want to start with what you guys have for the town and go from there so those were just some of the brainstorming ones we had but okay we've done the same thing Jim did you want to go first on behalf of planning I had a couple Crystal um I don't know if they'd be done in one year but it' be something we could begin with one is I'd like to digitize our fils to become a little more modern upto-date community that way we can throw the paper stuff away at because we have files going back to the uh mid 1970s it be really nice to at least have some of them to be with digitized and the second thing I'd like to do is to do a very very simple onepage Wetlands B we've talked about that for a long time but I like it to be one page very succinct main purpose would be to streamline and expedite local pering of we those projects there' be some technical stuff in there as well but I'd like it to be simple to the point and very helpful to the community so that's my two personal goals of Dave Dave's our agent da do and B is our associate member that you met a couple weeks ago Dave did you have anything to add only we'd like to not be a roadblock for projects and get them through the ma of their various approval process because everybody as you know have different applications so it's our charge my feeling is our charge to lead the applicant through the best possible way uh you know taking it account the red L protection act outline that the law mandates the commission to you know develop in each Community but also make projects more easily approved and I think that's bill and I had a chance to talk about this streamlining sheet many communities have this type of of documentor process project comes to a community it's one of the first things is do to sit down go through what are the steps that getting a project approv B he doesn't have that it's really everything is there but it's your charge to find it and sometimes you can't find it as you said the we our website can use Improvement quite honestly most small towns have websites just like our so you're going to work in a small town you have to wear how to navigate so but you miss things you don't know how to navigate well so that's why I appla that effort but that's really our especially I was on the mission for a couple years as a member and now an agent so I think that's the agent's responsibility help move so success for lead commission but also most importantly are Town resident whoever's want could to develop the project we want that to be most successful goal is to do better work progress than and you have anything to add well I'm I'm very new um so just my two sets um is that when we have an application sometimes um some of the required research on our end might a little bit out of our um over our heads or out of our zone so it would be nice and I might start working on this just to put like um some resources together that would make it easier for people on any of the commissions that have to do with web issues to get in touch with and get research quier that way so from an administrative and a technical perspective on trust right we have we have two main thrusts of what we do one is Administrative and the other are the techical RS and each each is challenging in its own way use planer bound technical support I know Jim uses it on the planning side but we don't use it on the weapons when you're like you're saying but a DTA Grant available for technical assistance minor Val plan commission that's something that could be possible but that's what we that's our goal for this year first of all thank you hey I'm curious our new Town Administrator wherever they may be are they going to be uh grant writing is that part of the job description of the administrator so we haven't um negotiated the contract yet that is something that the board has to do today in executive session to figure out what we um what we're agreeing to so we haven't it wasn't an original one several candidates had they okay at least we managing it if not writing it completely because again that's where we get our money that's a really important person to have on board and a lot of our department heads do their own Grant rting as well all right thank you thank you so thank you thank you so much one of the things we continue to upgr as time goes on it's a living do But as time goes on we find that there's there's conf there's conflict with the the vors versus the chars and we've applied for grants in the past that get to hear back or receive one as well as updating the subdivision quite a bit near for instance they our bylaw calls called for there's a lot of things that subis that perving gr perving versus asol per so on and so so that means a perie as well as by um you know hard that we have conflict we we correct them as we go changing some of them are are ADR for instance there was a conflict the bylaws we were dealing with range off of where that actually fell what was what was written in the narrative what was what was presented in the charts things along that L i' like to be able to bring somebody in and clean all that up and start fresh and then just up update as as Chris we did have a by Review Committee back in different okay so planning Bo okay so planning board has okay I didn't know if that was rolled into it the other thing I like to see happen is how um Economic Development to address utilities to address what what would make this town a little bit more attractive for businesses one once before um is about this like things like uh the board of assessors to see if there an opportunity cap for business as far as bringing in utilities that's a huge thing that needs to be done but I think we're on a moror now I think we can do anything on 202 until years out say we're with the first one they just put a second one was the intersection but that's 202 do we can't bring something South right and Glen did reach up to District 2 and District 2 came to talk to us a while back about it a lot of it just came down to the cost yeah that was involved it's a large ENT Tak the large cost for the for the town and kind of wave kind of look at both sides of it is it worth it to do it and I know this G up on the board before it was struggling way the concept that we're going to bring Soil and Water in but it just stopped we no plan to going any further with well a few years back there was a study done there was money money allocated for the stud and if I'm not mistaken we were we had a USDA Grant water the grant for I think was for water that was the project back when we never got prant for water maybe it was before me USDA was involved I'm sorry it wasn't I think okay difference little and then never May FL so again there's a bond is it's not a grand but nonetheless it's it's a a pretty inexpensive way to bring the water in was that the one for 202 but but Jim the problem we have with bringing water is where are we going to get the water that's the biggest problem we're running into because we went into negotiations with district one they were going to hold a sausage on giving us water they only have so much water coming through the Connecticut acent Out of Water we were advised to start negotiations with to buy our own water from the qu but that's going to entail how put bigger pipe because the pipe is basically maxed out for the threee communities taking it now okay so we were going to contact the legislature and see if they could help us in negotiating with MW to move forward with getting water directed from them and the problem is is we don't to do that we have to buy in the MW and I think the cost is about 800,000 back then for us just to join and before we even got any water before any construction even started we were in almost a million dollars for cost just to become AP that was the problem we ran into now we can continue doing that and bringing it in off of V Street like where the pipe said now and maybe pumping it up to uh D FR Park I believe that's the highest point in town we talked about doing that putting a large Tower sister however you want to call it up there and gravity feed it out of there to the rest of the town that was one of the options we we were actually looking for when the South hady Water District fil over okay so it's not really dead just lying dormant because of the 202 pavement project that went up which we're almost to the end of so we maybe we can get it up to five corners and go from there okay cuz we're also talking about maybe doing a loop system from Morgan Street and around down 202 to try and get that taken care of now the concern that southy had a dead stop right right so there there are options out there it's just that until this is done which is probably another year or so year year and a half I believe we really can't go and do anything we still have our plans to put the ples in but we don't have the ability to do it at this point time and there are one stop for growth grants that you can apply for for uh Municipal Water or for water in the town but you have to be shovel ready you have to have everything laid out for them when you apply for the grant in order to get the grant we did apply for it and we were um actually I don't even know if you heard backis I think they just didn't even respond to it no but we were told that we had to be shovel ready so all the ground work has to be done before we can apply for that gr I really like your idea of the economic development committee though so I think that something that we've needed for a long time to figure out how to get more businesses in town and just like the general bylaws I think all of our bylaws are really becoming updated um they know there was grants out there for the general bylaw right or would it be just paying a company for us to come in and clean it up and update it to the m General law it was over, you would have to pay a company to come in and reify all the bottles and I I want to say I think we looked it up and it was over $10,000 to do that right minimum Jason you have anything one thing I was about wonder if that's something that we're going to go for for other dep maybe we look at that as well yeah I think I think that's need Town sound like but it's just we until go to basement this just it's not the best best way to store especially going back to 4 and try to request for minutes orans lot ofun are doing that now you have anything you want add um can't me out uh the planning board the town planning consultant and plan Planning Commission I've been getting to work with uh gra f for almost 5 years now and getting to see various iterations of the board the makeup uh in addition to getting to see them navigate permit applications and V amendments I think you know an approach is typically something coming from the select board board if there's a letter that comes you know that obviously addressed at planning board meeting I think as the chair mentioned um one of the important things is that bylaw review so we've been helping put together a grant applications I I don't know Chris if you received anything from yeah so that was one that I'm still waiting for other towns that that for the Executive Office of Environmental and energy Affair energy and environmental Affairs have a plan assistance grant there we leveraged um some of the the monies that is used to pay for my service in addition to uh District local technical assistance with your osrp last year um to see if we could maybe get this grant it's a pretty significant Grant it's a $50,000 Grant to review the zoning bylaw navigate public process to like talk about it and see um how well the town may be implementing the urban uh the master plan see you know where some of those recommendations have come forward bringing that forward to the planning board um but it really it's that zoning B I think it's one of the biggest things um that uh we're trying to or you know to to help support the board the town um there was a dist technical assistance application that was submitted in the case that that particular Grant is not awarded um and we're still waiting um on whatever the final decision is that's not as big um but it is trying to navigate within my support to the town in addition to a review of the zoning um typically there a similar process but maybe you know not as many Frills like interacting with the public and sessions Etc it'll be working specifically with the planning board sharing uh iterations back and forth of maybe some things have been identified and maybe Identify some future changes um so yeah I think that's what I'll say is um for the 5 years that I've been working with the town it has been trying to navigate the Z V amendments really identifying the conflicts that uh the chair was talking about and knowing that those things need to change I think the economic development committee uh recommendation is a very good one especially since there was a DTA done a couple years ago with regards to committee that was convened to talk about the mixed uses in town um that also was around the same time the town was looking at the five corners uh water project so um kind of navigating the various things that are happening in town maybe some of the initiatives that the town is exploring and really taking advantage of the timing to see how you can like work with um either studies or Grant funds Etc um with regards to the general from the Conservation Commission um you know and and Mr seon's comment about pbbc assisting um with either grant writing um Regional planning agencies have uh a certain amount of money that have been set aside for grant writing for communities for municipalities so things like the park Grant once you get your osrp approved that is something if you you have like loow hanging FR like we need to acquire this particular piece of property let's write a grant uh let's get some assistance with the park Grant and um so that's something you know assistance with a One-Stop grant that is something that we do as well so with the um opportunities that may arise that that's something that can be so you're basically saying the subcontract on a higher individual it's a subcontract H your Valley to help with Grant is that what you're it is it is specific to various grants so they are only lowed for state and federal grants if you would navigate maybe with um a Pioneer Valley Planing sta staff um and they would identify you know what their capacity is at the time obviously gr Ling take a while um but it would be a specific it's technical assistance kind of like DTA where we're not inv voicing the town you're just getting the support from the pbpc for the various grants and kind of navigating what that process looks like um I think to go off what um Mr try was saying once that money is gone for what you can allocate towards the towns we could hire pbpc should you have someone that could write grants to help us write grants certain mention yeah certainly that's something that you can do too okay uh similar to how you know I I support the CH of the planning board um the planning assistance that's something certainly make Mak work further and you said you applied for the $50,000 grant for the review on for the zoning by L and you just hav heard that we very unusually linked okay yeah it was back in the summer by nov October they said after the holidays when I called them right before the holidays thank you so much for coming in does anyone have any questions thank you very much for the E Economic Development Committee um I the board can talk more about it but I think that's a great idea I don't know if that's something should get started soon later because they could also look at uh different types of grants that are out there yeah before we do that a charge for okay I always hear people talking about need business in town this well that's fa where they where's the space where's the land have so much space for businesses and what businesses are come here you know what's what's reality what's not reality I mean it's always a catchphrase to say that we need more business reality is where going what what we have do we have at space one one thing that I always of course I drive by it all the time is the old police station AR to that that's State we never we never uh we were granted permission from DCR OCC because that was or the dinosaur dinosaur museum and DCR had purchased that when we were done occupying it we had to write a letter to them stating that we no longer better knowledge on point so thank him for that I know a lot of people are pay in town just neglect that it's the town neglecting the building but it's not USS no and it's such I mean it's a great piece of property right there uh it's a nice piece of property but it has water running through the basement oh I do remember that so it has running water it has running water but we can't stop it from running uh and just so you know when Mr Shen was talking about the tax abatements for businesses yes those are programs that are done through the bo selectives that's what's called It's called The Tiff tax increment financing agreement you would make with them or an sta which is a special tax agreement and what you would do is if a business comes in you agree to give them a tax P if they meet certain vs and create creating so many jobs or whatever else the board is looking for and as long as they need those goals you continue giving them the tax break but it's only for a 5e period see the city's do it a lot yes the big businesses and things like that well that's that's how they attract them in they give a 5 tax break the business comes in for 5 years then they negotiate another one with another community and they leave your community and vote of another Community you know you see you see that happening a lot of times too with some of these businesses so there's a could be a catch 22 for but don't forget you are competing with South Hadley chicken be and holy that's the problem you run into and also I was look at you know businesses the town how much does that really benefit our taxs taxes which is case the same as a house it's the same well based on the square footage but yeah it's it's you know get square fo that or CVS and so on so forth so those those are things you can look at as we move down the road you can charge the you know the committee with that I said you know sometimes it's just a catch trate so we'll get out more businesses well that's great but how do you do that and what's the value to the town with doing that and again we don't have the infrastructure we don't have water we don't have gas natural gas we don't have STS you don't have that job you know and if you're going to try and pro businesses in they want Municipal Water Municipal sewer at a minimum and if you're looking at a restaurant or something that nature they want natural gas which is what we can't provide they also need the water for the sprinkler system depending on the size of it too yes but what all that said that's why you put together we to look at those things and what's feedable what's not and just so you know with USDA we did have plans of running e SE all up and down 202 at least to the high school we had talked about that but the money ran out okay we had designs we had we phas it in in three phases and extended in three phases we were ready to do the first phase and then USDA turned around says they didn't get to fight and I think that's part of the problem is you don't know what the federal government is giving them for money to invest communities so you know everybody here USDA Rural Development rural utilities but they are dependent upon what they get F too I know I moved to town and built a house back in 199 six someone actually told me hey you wait a couple years they're going to have a sore line up to emmer Street do you have water in some there I have seist in a pump lot of those and actually for sewer and water that was back in the 60s when the federal government and the state were almost subsidized at 95% project to put in water or St and it's it's unfortunate it is so costly to do something like that today's time it really is and that I said and that's what came up in front of this board some time ago does the cost that we're spending is there is there that much of a benefit to it's a lot of moneyone put out put out a tax pay as well and I remember you saying to not um the cost how are you going to get people to buy into it when they already have a septic they already have a we and now we're saying it's x amount of money to tie into that system how do you get them to pay that fee and and and there some you know there there's been comments in regards you know people being worried about the wells and things like that not being able to you know what well well but it's historic that the groundwater is riceing okay and eventually at some point it's going to contaminate a lot of the W and that was the reason why we were talking about starting the spine up and down 202 and then trying and branching up if you could so I mean really I mean for the future I know has come up going pass as well those those are conversations that need to need continue because in reality is it could be a problem for people down the road so but again it's very costly to do that and can't start making decisions as where you want to spend money you going have so much money unless we get it subsidized by you know a state and a Federal grant yes all right citizen participation is next Mr Randle do you like to come up I share me up do my best I'm usually I'm better prepared Sumer weekend tonight uh this afternoon I had the uh the privilege to attend a uh small gathering to honor M Mark and U uh I would like it in the minutes that it was well attended and comments were made that were professional courteous a lot of thank you uh not only for me to Chris but Chris to me um um and uh um thank you for your years of service I realized it's coming to to an end shortly but um it was really really nice that's all I have to say thanks all right what you have for CH dooming yes um first off I had received the letter of resignation from our Building Commissioner uh this final day will be March 9th uh the reason he is moving on is that he is accepting an offer with the conal Massachusetts to become a state inspector and I don't bling him a very good opportunity on this part the second item I have is a letter from Kathy L announcing her intention to retire and her last day of work would be March 15 March seems to be the month so far yep and then I have received a letter from the town of Burke today indicating that she will not be seeking reelection in May election and her planned retirement date is May 28th 2025 she was up for election anyways correct said we're not that point she's yes this she she's due but she's just letting her know after her 2 years of serving the community we will now be having a new town in the next election definitely appreciate uh Kathy letting us know was reminded that as elected position so but you have someone that's been in the same office for 20 plus years again knowledge experience that's it the the knowledge that's going to be going out the door is uh invaluable I agree she we miss uh she helped me quite a bit over the years with simple questions and business questions and things of that nature I'm selfemployed so the same thing leard she 20 years 20 actually 21 22 years and uh a lot of knowledge is going to walk out the door with her also unfortunate yes that's the problem when you have an aging uh Workforce you all start going out at the same period of time it's just too bad you know chrisy to your point it is it is too bad because we're a small town that really can't do sucession plan you couldn't we couldn't bring some in six months ago nine months ago you know a kind of plan for things you gota you got to carry two payrolls two people in the same you know for the same pay for the same job so some of those things are difficult it puts us I think in the SL board in a difficult position sometimes and trying to figure out a solution for you know what I look at right now is a a serious problem we're you losing um in our office here over 50 years of experience been M yeah and it just you know that's that's something hard to do and that's whether that's here or any other public off office or business or what may have you there's going to be an impact that same holds true with you know with u uh Kathy read too as far as you know that just there again we know it's elected position but it's been someone's held that position for x amount of years and you you'll definitely you know there's a learning curve When anybody com in the office whether it's the select court or you the sou CL Le yeah and you know I you know we talked about that as every every budget heing for the last I'm going to say five years five six years we all know that Dave der roer has mentioned that this is his last contract so years of him being 20 somewhat years are going to go up the door too don't give any ideas okay just no no he's he's talked about it and it's just you know it's just we're we're an aging group we're all in our 60s no in all serious it's it's a great undertaking that this board's going to take on I know you know fire chief Town Administrator I know assistant town administr here uh the Building Commissioner yeah you know these these it's it's nothing easy it's it's a part-time board that's that's trying to make this happen and these are you know real real problems for a small town really is yes especially keeping up with these salaries that these positions are requiring now from the larger communities yes you know and you're going to price yourself out the market that that's going to be the problem is you have to pay it to get quality people but yet when you pay salaries that's from somewhere else some other service that you're Prov and I know it's um you know it's it's very sad that we we are losing these people but for them to give us the amount of years that they have I think um is shows how committed they are to the town how committed they are to the people here and and um I just I wish them the best in their retirement they put in many many years so I thank them for everything they've done as well as you Chris but it was fun sometimes yes know no you have good times you have bad times but on the whole it was a fun job you know you you're out there you're you're getting things done you're you're trying to help the community that that's rewarding that is rewarding but I wish they would get rid of Facebook now we not expect that because Facebook is the worst invention they ever made because you have faceless keyboard Warriors who sit there and no matter what you do tear you to shreds tear you to pieces but you don't see them stepping up to any of these positions to say hey let me be a board select member to see how easy you I have all the answers why don't you step up and try do this job okay or trying and to be the highway super and dealing with snow stores or the Town Administrator trying to get through each year to make sure we have a budget that every Department can L that's those are tough jobs to do okay but yet everybody just says are out there tearing the municipal officials apart what you're going to get there's nobody coming into these positions it's unfortunate okay cuz a lot of read the Facebook stuff and if they read that you're constantly tearing someone down they're not going to and it's going to make it tougher for this board to hire competent people to do the jobs and I'll get off that so box now and move forward uh the other piece of bad news I received we thought you were done I said I said I have nothing but Doom and Gloom okay is I was received an email from our accounting and payroll VOR software vendor that he is no longer going to be in business as of July 1 202 so we now have to try and find a general ledger accounting package and a payroll service before July 1 and have it up and run and good thing Chris good news you're still the ton accountant right so that's good news for us so so I have I've already contacted ADP for payroll and I have a meeting with him on next Tuesday and I also contacted another software firm called datar is the package that uh our tax collector yeah purchased for her system and I did talk to the salesman today I fed out a questioner and we will uh hopefully be having a demo and I've invited the school Personnel to attend the demo at the same time I'm going to see if the uh Treasurer can attend the demo also so that we all can look at what they're talking about and what they're offering so that we can move forward quick quickly so we can get a conversion of our existing files into their software and be up and running before July but again another dating task that has to be done and the last bit of bad news is we have found some more unpaid prior year bills from the fire department fire department and as of this point right now I believe it's between 5 and $6,000 in additional so at some point this board should probably hold a specialen so we can get these venders paid for the services that they r now is there I know uh Chief Anderson is going through um and trying to you know go through all the paperwork and stuff is there any chance that there's any more like should we be waiting to see or well hopefully this is the final part okay okay I will talk to him a little more Tyler found a few of them and actually one of them is from Comstar who is our an Building Company and two months from last year and those run about anywhere from 11 to ,500 and I can't pay them because of we you say for two months one for April one for June and are there late fees is that what you're saying no there are no late fees at this point I mean I'm going to write to them and tell them I'm going to write to the other two companies and talk to them too and tell them what the issue is and hopefully be able to move I think it's important too to clarify you say last year last fiscal year FY 24 it's not before July 1 of 2024 which is this current actually I think one maybe goes back to FIS that's just crazy okay what I will do is let me get everything assembled I'll make I'll scan them in and I'll send it to the board memb so they can see okay but the only other piece of good news is is that we did file with the H Valley Planning Commission for the energy management manager we sent our letter of support we identified our buildings and I believe the school superintendent sent a letter of support also so hopefully we will be able to get some grant money for our buildings through this program all right next is to accept departmental reports I will make a motion to accept the departmental reports second motion any further discussion uh just got uh couple of things uh with Jeremy and the guys that are in the Parks um is it really reason why we need two guys to go empty trash on the dog park one guy think do that are they just filling time and space um o clock uh I do business with o clock I see that he goes there occasionally for door parts and things of that nature um I find them from my experience to be one more expensive lock companies in the area there are other lock companies in the area that I don't know we can reach out to them and send me their names I guess they could ship stuff to us we do business with war and agan they would ship it's a much larger uh right next door it's actually um it's a hardware Specialties Hardware can you can you me the information information for me know forward it to him to have look it to just because when it comes to like door closers or exit devices um if you're going to hold block for that stuff you might be paying so it might save that's fine just you sub the information for okay yeah because I rather those do business with someone the bo I recommend it well it's well we start recommending businesses from the select board and we do business with them I don't think that's that's good in our part I'm just saying we can check them out and see yeah but necessarily but I if we're going do that I would say we get a a bunch of different companies that looking for business there's several of them around I just I just know from experience um and then I noticed WB Mason do we actually buy salt from WB Mason baged salt I know that's what it sounded like that's what it looks like yes okay that's that seems like an ordinary we used to buy everything from Rich gold products okay Rich gold products was purchased by WB oh okay so we we have stayed with them for the cleaning supplies because they were still selling the same supplies that rich coers provided which were very good cleaning products so and we used to actually buy our ice m u from Rich and it's the same that he used to sell that there so all right I did have a question um Chris if we can reach out to Dave because Jeremy did have concerns about the trees between the two baseball fields that their rotting and he has concerns that it could be a liability people bling I believe David and Jeremy were talking the other morning okay he wrote it in his report but Dave didn't have it in his report that he was going to go look at it but um Jeremy's asking that we have the tree word and go there and give his analysis I think they they caught each other in the office and they were talking I know they were talking about trees don't ask me where but I remember the topic of trees that come up yeah he's saying between the first ball field and the playground they're dying and they they're creating a hazard so we can uh reach out to Dave and have them take a look and see if he thinks those trees should be taken down or what his recommendation is all right all in favor I'm sorry I did want to follow up with the board on just the um senior the council on Aging I did reach out to Natalie about the wellness calls um she said that the wellness calls are supposed to be done by the shine Outreach person so um Mike was just getting used to the job and so he hadn't made any Wellness calls to homebound seniors but I did notice on um so I reached out to her the first week of January but on the January 10th there's no mention of Wellness calls at all on her report so I can reach out to her again and just check in just to make sure those seniors that are homebound are not forgotten especially during this SCH yes exactly I just wanted to let the board know I did follow up them right next is to approve and sign maintenance warrants okay I will make a motion that the town authorized for payment warrant number 43 dated 110 2025 with a total dispersement for Warrant 43 94,5 16414 I'll second motion any further discussion all in favor I I okay I make a motion that the time BR be authorized excuse me for payment warrant number 43s dated 1:10 2025 with a total dispersement of the warrant 43s of $83,900 all the paper I make a motion that the town of gramby authorized for payment payroll out summary uh town of gy Warrant number 44 dated 115 2025 with a total dispersement of all in favor all right I will make a motion town of gry authorized for payment warrant number 45 dated 117 2025 with a total dispersement for Warrant 45 $3,554 13 I'll second Mo any further discussion discussion all in favor I next on the agenda is to approve and sign 2025 class two license I will make a motion weth of Massachusetts to of Grandy authorize used car dealer license class two to buy and sell secondhand motor vehicles and accordance with the provisions of chapter 140 of general laws with amendments there to Am AJ Inc corporated doing business as AJ's Auto Body it's hereby licensed to licensed to buy and sell secondhand Motor Vehicles at number of 39 West State Street and Randy Mass on the premises described as follows metal Butler Building on Route 202 some Frontage for placement of cars for resale storage and rear building for nonrepaired cars restrictions are are no more than six used motor vehicles for sale at one time vehicles with major damage waiting to be repaired must be stored out of sight or inside of the building and reconfigure up to 24 spaces for non-employees to include for autos under repair and for sale with maximum five spaces on southernly side of property license number 2- 00002 dated January 22nd 2025 this license expires January 1st 2026 I'll second the motion any further discussion discussion all in favor I next is to approve and sign the 2025 common vict licenses I'll make a motion at the town of grany uh we have a permit fee waiver request for the First Presbyterian Church 160 West 8 Street BR mass 01033 for a common Vic license and they are nonprofit second motion any further discussion no discuss all in favor by thank you make a motion that the Commonwealth Massachusetts town of Grandy certify that first pres Terian Church 160 West State Street Grandy mass is hereby granted a common Vic license in said town of Bry and that place only and expires December 1 1st 2025 uh license number 25-23 dated January 22 2025 I'll second motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I did you say I I yes just wanted to make sure I get to say if follow those or obain no I make a motion for the town of gry for a permit fee waiver request dated 1 19 2025 for the gry preservation Society Incorporated at 2 50 State Street gry Mass 01033 it is a nonprofit organization I second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I make a motion to wealth Massachusetts town of gramby certifi that the gramby preservation Society at 250 State Street Grandy mass 01033 is hereby granted a common VI license in said Town Bry and that place only and expires December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended or vot uh license number 25-24 dated January 22nd 2 a second motion any further discussion all in favor by thank you make a motion for the town of Grandy permit fee waiver request dated 17 2025 uh for the Immaculate Heart of Mary Church at 256 State Street gramy Mass 01033 uh for a common Vic license and entertainment reason for request nonprofit Roman Catholic Church nonprofit yes I'll second motion f discussion no discussion all in favor I I make a motion the town of Grandy Commonwealth of massachusett St Grandy certify that Immaculate Heart of Mary Church 256 State Street Grandy mass at 0133 is hereby granted a common VI license in said town of graby and app Place only expires December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended or revoked um license number 25-25 dated January 22nd 2025 second motion any further discussion all in favor I make a motion to town of gry gry excuse me uh for permit fee waiver request dated January 16th 2025 for the Church of Christ Congregational at 2 35 State Street PO Box 177 gry Mass 01033 for common Vic and entertainment license uh tax exempt religious institution I'll second the motion any further discussion all in favor I'm sorry can I just ask why why that's there not a non tax should be I I think it's checked WR Kathy they checked off no as a nonprofit but then they put an arrow up saying we are tax exempt for religious institution they just check so they check okay okay just want to make sure we have to approve do we have to approve it we already said yes but he said then yeah I asked the question afterwards just because of c um make a motion to Massachusetts town of Grandy certify that Church of Christ Congregational 235 State Street grany mass 01033 is hereby granted a common Vic license in said town of grany and that place only and expires December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended or revoked um license number 25-26 dated January 22nd 2025 I'll second the motion any further discussion all in favor I I make a motion to con wealth of massachusett town of the gry certifi that Friends of the gry free public library at 297 East State Street gry mass 01033 is hereby granted a common Vic license in said town of gry in half Place only and expired December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended or revoked license number 25-27 dated January 22nd 2025 second motion the only question I have Kathy they're nonprofit right they're not in the paperwork that we received yeah they nonprofit okay do we have a waiver for yeah it might be upstairs they did it's maybe just got the oh it is here yes sorry so can we approve this and then wave the right okay so all in favor I make a motion to town of Brandy for perit wer request dated 1:16 2025 for friends of the Grandy library at 297 East State Street Ramy Mass 01033 for L reason for request the friends are a 501c3 organization which raises funding for Library programming and our nonprofit second motion discussion all in favor I make a motion the Commonwealth of Massachusetts town of grany certify that CVS Pharmacy incorporated number 7111 at 70 West State Street Ramy Mass 0 01033 is hereby granted a common Vic license in said town of grantley and that place only and expires December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended or revote license number 25-28 dated January 22nd 2025 I'll second Mo any further discussion discuss all in favor I so next is to approve and sign 2025 entertainment licenses make a motion to the town of grany for a permit fee weever request dated January 16th 2025 for the Church of Christ Congregational at 235 State Street P box 177 Randy mass 01033 for an entertainment license so Kathy we already did this when CU he read both off so we're good on the exemptions right so we can just go straight into the licenses CU he read both of them and we weigh both them at that time yeah so we go straight yeah so we can go straight to the licenses you can initial it pass it down but we already approved it yeah I think she's just keeping a copy with each one make a motion the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to of gry certify that the Church of Christ Congregational 235 State Street Bry Mass 01033 hereby granted a license for entertainment license to provide entainment for various events in the church and on the common located at 235 State Street Ry Mass this license is granted in Conformity with statutes and ordinances relating there to and expires December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended or revoked license number 25-06 dated January 22nd 2025 no second motion any further discussion discussion all in favor all right will make a motion the Commonwealth Massachusetts town of gramby certify that Immaculate Mar Mary 256 State Street gry mass 01033 is hereby granted a license for entertainment licensed to provide entertainment live band DJs or events to be held on the grounds of Immaculate hard Mary church located at 256 stage Stree gred Mass license is granted in conformity with statutes and ordinances the r near to and expires December 31st 2025 unless sooner suspended and were revoked license number is 25-7 dated January 22nd 2025 no second motion discussion all in favor y make a motion to Commonwealth Massachusetts town gry certify that gry preservation Society 250 State Street gry mass 01033 is hereby granted license for entertainment to provide entertainment to customers as follows live entertainment consists of a DJ Behind the main building between 10:00 a.m. and 2: p.m. only located at 250 St Street gramy mass for car shows this license is granted in Conformity withe statutes and orate ordinances relating there to and expires December 31st 2025 andless sooner suspended or revoked license number 25-8 dated January 22nd 2025 no second motion any further discussion discussion all in favor I I oh this is the is that yes that's going to the regulation for the um she's there so she's just asking for time so she put it on the okay uh Mo Comm nor Massachusetts town of gramby served by that ACM Incorporated doing business at Cindy's drivein 455 East State Street Ramy mass 01033 is hereby granted a license for entertainment license to to provide entertainment to customers as follows live music first Saturday of every month for classic car shows from 11: a.m. to 900 p.m. located at 4:55 East State Street Grandy Mass this licensees granted in Conformity with statutes and ordinances related there to and expires December 31st 2025 as sooner suspended or reject license number 25-4 dated January 6 2025 second Mo any further discussion SP I asked the board did we approve this last year from 11: to 9: as well yes and there was no issues with going till 9: in that area is there our houses right across the street okay I I don't think they okay I didn't think so that's why I thought it was uh to say till n okay all right all in favor I we're just getting clarification on time on the time make a motion to the town of Grandy for permit fee waiver request dated 1 19 2025 for the gry preservation Society to state tree brings mask for a flea market their nonprofit further discussion discussion all in favor all we already approved them for two others so a motion to Commonwealth Massachusetts town grany certified at the grany preservation Society 250 State Street mass is hereby granted an outdoor craft fair permit to be held at the above location on May 10th 2025 with a rain date of May 17th 2025 this license is granted in Conformity with the statutes and ordinances relating there to and expires at 3:01 p.m. on the final day of the craft Fa l sooner suspended or revoked license number fm25 d01 dated Jan uary 22nd 2025 I'll a second or motion any further discussion all in favor all next is to approve and sign the FC fur H Collective iway bid participants right here that document is dealing with the upcoming FY 25 uh bids that will be issued by the the Frankin Regional Council of government's procurement office and what it is is you are authorizing an individual for the town to sign off on those contracts asward on behalf of the town in the past he used to be Town Administrator saying how you're not sure who the individuals going to be at this point my suggestion would be have D rer sign off on behalf of the after they coming in front of the board and present and you said FY 25 was 2026 right it'll be 20 26 yes so we would just under page three it says we authorize we would write D Highway superintendent for the town of Bry yes do you want me to fill out one or you'll fill it out and we sign it you can sign one and we can throw it out okay because what they do is they do their they post all their bid Awards on Doc sign so the person who has authority to sign those out there they send them give them tell you tell you that they're out there waiting for you you have to sign it the doc you sign and then select each one to sign off so it's just the Fe structure it's a fe structure but then they're also they'll be issuing out for asphalt Asphalt in place Stone okay all the bids that we normally SL off on magnesium choride uh Ro salt things of that nature they're doing it Regional wise we save money yes they buy it in full those a bigger bigger bigger pool or bigger cost to the price of the count cuz you're going to you're having the towns in Hampshire and Franklin County all collectively putting in what they need for the upcoming year and then they B based [Music] so so I will make a motion that daveid the roer be our authorized agent for Frankin Regional Council of government for the fiscal year 2026 be structur what's going on contract signatory after coming contract signatory after coming in front of the door thank second discussion no discussion all in favor all it has three places for us to sign do you want to all to sign and you want us to sign both you only need you only need one sign I continue with the date I put on his St all right next is to affirm appointments to fire chief assessment committee I think they're actually came the old business okay at the last meeting of the board the uh board asked uh Mr Randle and Mr Gay if they would be interested in serving on the new fire chief assessment committee yes they agreed they need to be appointed and they also received the names of three Fire Chiefs from Cross and uh who who agree to be part of the same assessment committee and we're just appointing the committee so that they can start uh looking at the applicants and start trying to decide who would be the best for cuz they all just came in on the 17th right 17th was a closing date and we have six appli I will make a motion to affirm the appointments to fire chief assess committee for the town of Grandy and the participants will be George Randall II Richard gay senior should I read their addresses or no Michael spank nille spank nille good luck on that yeah that's a tough one spank spank I think it's spank that's a strange spelling for sure good English good English effort for effort yes yes Chief Michael SPN the same one yeah yeah one's just his name the other one is Chief one is Chief PE right Chris I believe there is a chief we have a chief ran peas also and chief David modder yes all of them yes so I'll take out the one that doesn't say to I'll second the motion any further discussion no discussion all in favor I you need to sign anything on the letter press or no all right next to is to appoint the interim Town admin administrator not me yeah I know all right so I know when we last discussed it there was some concern so I know we wanted to open it up and see what everyone was thinking and go from there so you want to lay out the options and then go from there seems like a plant yeah yes so I guess our first question would be Kathy Leonard as the town Administrative Assistant would you want to take on the role of the interim Town Administrator I know that's a lot question yes until March or again I had done that before um was decided if um the person who you pick is not going to be here before then I would say okay you would stay after March 15th okay so I'm sorry was thatting yes okay I'm sold yes me as well very good okay um so with the extra duties does there come um a monetary value with that because I think it should I don't know how the board feels about that but she is taking on the sole responsibility of the whole town she doesn't have a backup right so there is something built into her contract when the admin is gone so she gets $50 a day for me not being but you're always the ible by phone yes and now you're not going to be unless we do a consultation basis not for cath okay no I said for this one I would be available if she gets stuck okay free a church okay okay so but basically she's going to be dealing with all the department heads she's going to be dealing with a lot more heavy duty decisions that uh she now just hands over yes uh she's now for the buck stops and she I believe she should be compens got additional responsibility thank you well I'm not opposed to it something that we have for discussion yeah you want to think about it Cathy and then get back to us okay so so we can still make a motion to appoint yes I will make a motion to appoint interim Town Administrator administrator excuse me Kathy Leonard from the period from the period of January 24th 25th would be the Takeover date 25th group until the until further until the new administrator to administr six years not you're giving her a headache okay I'll second that Mercy any further discussion no discussion all in favor I I Kathy can we ask you to rewrite your letter though state that in there so yeah all right so we have um a couple of things on Old business but all that we've discussed so we did the goals with the planning board and the Conservation Commission was there anyone else that we wanted to to go over goals with that was unable to make it like what about Highway you should bring the highway dep police department and police department school committee as well yeah probably also have assessors yep and so do we want to similar to what we did this time do we want to have two for each meeting how many how many boards did you list there we've got school assessors Board of Health police fire uh Council on Aging you should also add them and then um Highway seven do you want finance committee yeah that would be eight and I suggest scheduling the scho and finance committee separate no separate meetings okay any um what about budget meetings because we usually start that in the fall right and it's now January or around now is when we started right the budget sheets just went out okay uh they're due mid February if they come in earlier I will I have a feeling I'm going to be doing most of the budget work for this next budget as they come in I'll have Kathy let me know and then what we can do is uh for the ones under the board of selectman you can meet with them as okay well ask the board to if we agree with a contract with a new town of legator that we asked that they be part of the budget process this year with Chris Martin oh I'll I'll gladly end it over but I think I think with with G I think it's be some if we have the opportunity to have some collaboration between U the outgoing staff and incoming staff be very helpful so that person doesn't understand the budget a little bit as far as our town budget I operating and what look for as far as increases so for our next meeting what two boards or board or committee do or Department I should say do we want the hold off a little bit for the next meeting yeah we us a t right now is we got take care of that that part ofate business first and well could we also just send an email asking them what their goals are we can do that too so just to get an outline because if we want to do a document that puts everybody's collaboration on what their goals are and what they um what they see they need in their areas or their departments committees I think that would uh save a lot of time because a lot of people can't make it to the meetings too so I don't know why we didn't think about it before guys but document would be good great all right and then did um did either of you get a chance to read the open space committee report because or plan because it was a very long read go through there definitely lot of long read with a lot of information a lot of pictures all right so yes so no uh questions nothing you guys need taken out or anything was very well R well the the last one uh iall was um 2012 to pres was it they're usually good for seven years so yeah so ours is outdated right so I was just curious how much of it because you on that commune how much of it actually just rolles over uh quite a bit as far as like the conservation areas areas of the chapter I think it's chapter 6 60 um a lot of those carry over unless somebody requests to take their property out of chapter 60 which does happen we've had a couple over the last three years where they've requested that and they end up sell like and then the well yeah but um Glenn you're on that committee where you uh look at the piece of land to see if it's usable for the town or beneficial and I'm sorry I don't remember the name of that Land review Land review thank you committee and then it comes to the yes you do have and then it comes back to the select board and then we release it but other than that um there was a couple updates on the maps just because of we have better tomography now and better pictures so they updated those um no changes really in endangered species and again that's all off of the mass website so a lot of this is just going to the Mass website for our area and updating it based on those um based on the data that's available online I thought it to be very well put together and very informative with a lot of information and uh my kudos to the committee because it is a lot to put together and Derek did a great job from Piner Valley Planning Commission just putting it all together um he's the one who wrote it I mean he took what we had in the old stuff updated it with the new material and then he um did a very good job right so the next step is is for a letter review from the um of the plan by the select board so it says uh select board chair so if you guys are okay with that Chris did you get a chance to talk to DK and are you going to reach out to him about actually sent me the workbook yeah would the form for each open space area okay cuz he said it was on page 72 for 76 it's actually it's it's not in yours right it's in a a public a state publication that is open space and Recreation plan okay it's basically on the state's website okay cuz I looked at 72 through 76 I didn't find it so you want me forward this email to you to so you can see what yeah he didn't copy me to it because Jery's going to have to do that every open space area now right uh basically needs to be done for any Town recreational properties than a public facilities okay and this would include the big parks that have two frame BRS along with the school playgrounds Fields the forge P however we not include places like undeveloped Town conservation okay right so I if the board's okay with that I'll reach out to Derek and just find out what he needs in that letter I'll draft it and share it with the board and then we can look at it at the next meeting I didn't know we had moved some found that interesting according to the state we do I've never seen them but and we've never read it on a police report either it's usually always hitting deer not loose so there's a few there a few there all right so Jeremy is working on the Ada self assessment which is what Chris was just talking about so now um Derek from Piner Valley Planning Commission would just need a letter from the planning board yeah I I'm putting that your agenda for my day okay perfect all right um as I already stated for due frin pond dredging we are I'm still looking for the grant supposed to come out at the end of this month if it comes out because again last year was a pilot so fingers crossed it does um Park and wreck department we have put on the agenda for the end of January so I know like Glenn said we have uh a huge undertaking with other things but I know it's something that if we do want to have we we do have to work it into the budget so Chris you said the budget sheets come out in mid-February is there any kind of groundwork that can be done for a parks and W Department to see what it would need to operate budget wise like what cuz we talked about um other towns we talked about having it before we talked about how other towns do it but in order for this to go anywhere we need to know our starting point can we take reference from the previous one we had I know it's very outdated but we take reference from that and then look at other surrounding towns to see where they are at currently it's a starting point for for i' have to go to see if they published on their website and work first published on what webs different cities and towns oh okay like budgetary wise is that something Chris that you want um one of us to do because as the town accountant you wouldn't do that right yeah it would be your charge so um if you want I can try and gather information from the different towns you guys are looking for small towns right what a small town has for operating costs um would there be a way Kathy for you to look up the old one though okay excuse me Glen does vter town have a parking right apartment we sure do okay I'd uh i' Happy J with you on that help out with that yes that would be great thank you thank you all right um Chris no update to massot like you said they just yeah they changed over to the new lights light P it looks good you know but as for the paving or anything all the plants are closed and they wouldn't pay in this type of weather any I think I think you're basically done until the spring though we ran into a problem over the weekend with the lights and I think that pushed it a little faster than they wanted to the old light system was just okay Kathy do we want that's how we get it done keep pouring water out that stff things won't start and things don't work exactly um Kathy can pleas put at the end of that spring so we don't have to keep saying it Y and then Forge Pond update I know um he was working on the report but he has till June but he didn't anticipate was going to take that long I'm going to I'm going to try and get a hold of send him an email see where he is all right curbside collection I got to get I'll get you the uh last RFP that was issued many many years ago about eight years back yeah we extended our contracts we did a 5year extension we had a one year extension and the original contract was for three years so Chris in the correspondence that you gave us this was for Republic Services so they just they stopped buying they gave that to me okay that's why they they they are trying to get BR B back okay from Waste Management that's funny I don't the original company I don't recall that gives us something to compare to which is good and then storm water regulations you know where Dave is with no I'm we're just keeping that on there to remind the board we are under an administrative order from the EPA that we have to have storm water regulations in our bylaws no later than June 30th of 20125 so if you decide to hold a town meeting before May to address the additional unpaid PR year bills I would probably put this on the same agenda to make sure they're not waiting last minute May and June to meet the administrative order because if there's an issue raised at town meeting it'll give you a chance to be able to rectify whatever issues there are and go back okay is um now this is something that we can workk with da right any find if it's not done by I believe there is by June June 30th 2025 who the highway huh who's the highway of the isn't I know I'm C on aging and I'm Dave was building to the TA inspector police department and school committee okay and your fire and Highway right Kathy do you remember whose Highway Lea we'll let you know well you it might be a good thing to next meeting either that we can sit down and talk to them because this this be a priority yes we ask see we got to make sure that he has uh the needed tools if you will to accomplish we have a set of regulations that were developed in conjunction with plan valy Planning Commission okay we was never brought forward to town meeting for adoption so so so all we need to do is get those two you you'll have to hold a hearing within 30 days of a town meeting to uh bring forth the town meeting for appr adoption okay look at yes yeah in case they changed any rules or regulations since they were PR we we actually we were talking with petty paty petty petty I think it's I can't remember her last name begins with a uh with Patty at the pbpc to ask her if there were any updates that were necessary and she hasn't indicated at this point so the Town Council is already taking a look at too uh I'm not sure if we ran by Town Council I think we did yeah I had I had to right yeah just double check with Brian yeah the loan from p dvpc is Patty gambarini all right does anyone on the board have anything further to discuss for next time that you want added to the agenda not for next time something for this time um Chris I'm sorry you did have or Kathy you did have the Building Commissioner zoning enforcement officer add did you just want us to review that yes because I have everything ready to go tomorrow was very good and gave me a couple places to be able to send it and everything so okay um just because we're talking about byla offb St storm water makes me think back to should we revisit the Le law do bylaw to try and sort that out and get something can you have a year for two byla updates okay yeah I think we should do both but it would have to be a separate meeting it wasn't much I there there some yeah is that something that we want to schedule now or next time well we got to get the storm regulations we got to make sure that so let's wait until data sign we don't get it done by okay there consequences and the only other thing to bring up is uh John Edwards sent an email wanting to know if the board wanted to start phase two of the forest thinning out puet do FR would you like him to come to the meeting to discuss it board I think he should come to a meeting to discuss it and why it's necessary because I think that was the controversy of it the last time is it was necessary to do we had a lot of rotting trees they were coming down in the trails the wind was blowing them over if it was a hazard and a lot of people didn't see that so I think having him come to the board and explain the reason for it I think is definitely necessary yeah we came the first time explain why we need that right so again if he if he fielded the phase two should continue why have why phase two should be done I agree that was that was an original plan anyway pH I wasn't that two phases so yeah I that again it's a forest management plan this is what it's coming down I just didn't know it was in two phases so actually I think it was going to be three phases okay well we only had I think um negotiated phase one and phase two too I think there's going to be a third phase getting closer over to where the doctor then maybe we can encourage the uh people of town to watch that and get the information so that you can you can try and do that well hoping that uh you know it's a forest management plan forestry management plan and people have to understand if it's got to be done it's got to be done you've got dead dry trees it's a fire it's dangerous plus you're trying to Foster New Growth with younger SS canyock this maybe it would answer questions for people that jump forward without see you're going to get that you're still going to get those type of comments no matter what you do how much you do realize that you will get we can hope that see so Kathy's going to post the Building Commissioner and with that said could we this been 22 years could we have um I don't know if you guys have anything for the town Administrative Assistant uh I have to take a look an ad or um yeah I think we have a job description I'm not sure about the ad okay now for the building for the Building Commissioner do you want that pay that we have in there I think we should keep that range because that's what um that's what they get paid that's why we put that range in there if we go lower we're not going to get somebody like you said we're going to phase out and we're not going to get somebody that's going to stay do you have another recommendation again it comes down to experience at at a at a point where you can steal someone from another Community that's basically what it comes down to because there's not enough licensed Commissioners out there for all the communities and uh I know it was talking about Regional inspector or commissioner at one point that's not not going to work because each Community has such a large need but uh the issue is is we need to make the pay comparable to surrounding communities or maybe just a little bit more trying to get you suggest a little bit higher in the range what what are you thinking what was the range on that one 85,000 to 100,000 annually we started at 100 to get D okay so I would do two 295 to 110 or something like that 95 105 105 10,000 it would be based on experience right because didn't we have before the Building Commissioner we had a gentleman that wasn't a commissioner he was an inspector through but he was working on your self hadly for a while right so should we accommodate for that range you know what I'm saying cuz he not going to get the same pay as a commissioner no you want a commissioner period okay all right because if you go because the commissioner is the only one who gets issue permits okay an inspector cannot so our guy was using um self okay all that makes sense now all right so 95 to 105 and then we'll look for um the job description for the town administrative assistant and if we have an app and then like Glen said the other one's elected so should that go out as like what their job duties are for the town clerk no no it's not no it's just whoever goes for it and then they learn the job put your name in or don't have to be no they put on the select board long get one more vote the other person okay and then they just get on the job training and go if you read the attachment to her she I think has to stay on seven days to help make sure that they can do the job after the election there's an assistant there they have an assistant yes but if she chooses not to run S no but she still an assistant right she so she'll be able to help she'll still help so El get the job you would presume so but we're just reading mastering the law the way it's written yeah that doesn't talk about yeah the assistant fall yes the her budget yes is that assistant of that will employ yes not a contractor right I think you covered everything unless you guys can think of anything you want to have to the agenda I just want to take a moment to thank Mr Martin for his years of service I can speak myself PL 8 years now actually when a planer you dealt with me a little bit too yeah but I mean just my years on on a select board uh a few years uh before that so thank you very much Chris I know you didn't know a lot before this year of what you did so you do a lot so thank you very much for your service to the time's when I say you L someone that's been around for a long time you realize how much they did after they leave cuz then you assume things are getting done well who does that oh Chris used to do that used to do that so that's when you find out things that uh you know were just getting done that no realize who was doing it so all the has yeah all the has I too will thank you for all the years of service all our lives I've been here a short while but I've learned some things from you and with everyone so far and hope to continue to work so thank you for your service enjoy your retirement F we had a fun run Chris y had some some good times and not some good times we worked through problems you know we made with through together y all those meetings and to be honest with you we you and I started getting a better working relationship for for every budget year and I believe that should continue for this upcoming budget that it would be Dave and now and whoever the Town Administrator is meets with the business manager the chair of the school committee and the superintendent interim or I think she's still and to sit down discuss their budget requests and what the town can actually afford that and that was mentioned by by someone on the the school committee that you know the the relationship that we've had over the past several years and what you leave it was a you were like a I don't know shine light sometimes when there're stuck with the L you kind of you provide the answer for so part of my job and I just hope the who the next administrator is has an open door policy for department is honestly that does help when they can come in and you sit and you talk through a problem and you come up with a reasonable resolution that everybody can well it's a need it's a requirement so Tas that person with but that other person must understand that to do that they have to be I could have been away from this build probably good 15 days a month with all the meetings they have okay and if that's the person person comes in is going to be doing you're not going to be available to deal with the issues I used to say I used to work in Springfield leave probably after 7 I see this car here I 5 about 4:30 his car was still here can be long hours but can be rewarded sometimes the night meetings will a little too long telling me it's just stared yeah so all right so with that will entertain uh well actually we're going into executive session after this so we will go into executive session 30 a-21 a-3 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or litigating position of the public body and the chair so declares and we will only come out of executive session to adjourn the meeting roll call vote I thank you very much thank you yes good night take care thank you George