[Music] Um, all right. Welcome, committee. Welcome, guys. Um, so I know I texted you all last night, but so the ballot
vote failed by 60. It was pretty close. Um, and so I asked how to close up the meeting, the group, and I was told just to keep us open until June 30th. Yeah. When the committee actually will just expire and um not be re
both pre-state and reinstated. Yeah. And reinstated. So, I don't know. I don't know what the next steps are other than I know that we've all looked at this latest bill from both of you and and have approved it. So, we will get these paid.
Okay. Okay. And then, um Tim, I can get you your Well, I'll text you later about your easels. Yeah, we can coordinate how to get the easels. Yep. Yep. I can get
into a Bergkshire bank for you. Um, yeah. So, I'm very sad, but it is what it is. I was Glenn, I was just going to ask you, do you think that the Newton TA may
bring some life into the project? cuz I was actually going to suggest that we not close out everyone's contract short term and and just leave it sort of suspended until the new TA comes on board and we could have a conversation
with them as well. She is into this project. She is for the project. I I haven't talked to her since yesterday. Um I don't know. She starts in June 2nd though. Yep. Yeah. So, and I know our select our newest select board person is
um trying to figure out how to solve the municipal offices problem and the lack of buildings problem. So, I'm not really sure what the next steps are, but I I agree. I think we should keep it open until we find out. So, I was al I was
also told or asked to ask the question to Neil, what would it take just to get into that building? like this not with all the renovations just as simple to move offices in there bring it to AD8 what ADA compliance you mean the minimum
just to move them in like if we wanted to move them in next week what would we have to do wouldn't that be C the essentially is cuz unfortunately unless it previously has gone through a change of use you've got to do a change of use
which is going to trigger most of the things that we have. Not the entirety cuz you could literally do bare bones and strip it, abate it, strip it down, put in the sprinklers, put in the ventilation, put in the windows,
um, put in bathrooms as needed. Not as many even because we wouldn't have the assembly use there. But you could literally have it be an open industrial space, so to speak, and loop people in without actually subdividing it at all
into their individual offices if you really just wanted to get them in. Wouldn't be customized to their use. But yeah, I would I would argue that you have some accessibility hurdles. Yes, that as well.
Right. So, and again, you know, again, we could look at it differently, but I think that there's still a fair amount of work that would need to be done inside the building to make
it accessible and habitable. Right. Yeah. Your main thing is the ramp that the ramps that you do have in the building are non-compliant. You have a step up of the existing door front door
and then you have multiple double doors throughout the facility currently which granted in many for many of them you could just pull them off altogether. We need to make sure we have enough um to create best meals as needed, but the
clearances aren't there for those doors. Um many of the classrooms you need to adjust at minimum um the hardware, operating hardware on the doors and pull out the closets that are tight to the door frame um just to make sure you have
clearances provided. And then bathrooms are the other element big element from an accessibility standpoint. So the bottom line is ADA the minimum would be ADA
compliance open floor work. Yeah. Um question would be from the standpoint of the the building official and town fire, would they allow you to if you wanted to do the minimum and move in, would they allow you to do that without a
sprinkler? H what if we just renovate what 5.6 six will get us right to get them in there. Could we do that? Is that feasible? You you be talking about only abading
and renovating the wing that we intended to occupy. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I think that's the intent. I'm I didn't I didn't I wasn't privy to this conversation, so this is the first I'm hearing of it. But if it's um just a baiting so it was
option six in the six options that we originally presented to the select board right the three with abatement of the whole building and then the three without abatement of the whole building going all the way into the cafeteria though correct so it's going to be less
yeah just the wing and pull back just that wing and the access point to it when we do all the windows though or no? No, just just the area that we're using. Okay. So, what you know, someone said at one of the meetings it would look like
East Germany and West Germany or North Korea and South Korea or lipstick kind of, right? Okay. That's what they voted for. They can vote for anything. I know. But um is that something that someone asked
you really to look into? Like doing get well they said to ask the question and they're cuz I said are you joking or are you I mean you're serious now serious and he said no ask the question what serious we have to do something we don't have something's going to happen to our municipal offices right
so I'm just like asking the question they said to ask Neil if if that's like something we could do to get the offices in there so could we just abate the wing that we were going to use move move in with um
accessibility open floor plan. Yep. Yeah. Or actually, what would 5 point five million get you? I guess for a four for a four for a floor plan and we'd have to look into that because well, it's also a question of how much
finish you put in and cosfully for the scope of work involved, it was $500 a foot. So, it's going to about 10,000 square ft. Round numbers. Yep. And obviously that wouldn't include
doing anything in the rest of the building. Right. Right. So you just do your own windows the abatement in the old in that way. We would probably have to cut the school back
considerably in terms of finishes and whatnot. Right. But still do sprinklers because it's municipal offices and it's 10,000. So would I think it's over five 5,000 square ft you're obligated to do
sprinklers. So I don't think the sprinklers are an option. Right. I I agree with that assessment. no matter how many times we're told otherwise. Yeah. I I say we need a joint meeting with the
select board to say what I don't want to waste my time here doing something that we don't know one select board member said or or the TA said right go ask I don't want to be spinning their wheels and I don't want them spinning
mine either right I want I want to sit down with the new select board and I want them to tell us if they want us to continue based on what you just said or not. All right. Makes sense. Makes sense. I mean, why
why are we spending more, you know, grabbing Yeah, I that Yeah, I can't imagine. And I wasn't trying to throw the curve at you. I I get it, but I'm I'm just saying before I think it's good. I'm I'm okay with it, but I'm not going to be doing anything right. We haven't been
asked to do from the board, not from an individual. We can um ask this. I think the SLboard is meeting tonight, right? Yes. Yep. 5:30. That's where I'm going next. Well, you can ask them.
I think we should. Well, we could, I guess, but I don't know if we're going to get an answer out of them. No, not yet. I think they need to deliberate on it a little bit and decide. Okay. Well, so so I mean we have at least we have it could be
done bare bones. It could be done for probably 5 million. Yeah. Make something habitable. Should we all go down there? Should we all go down there? Okay. Um I don't know if that'd be worth
our while. Well, that might have just been an off cuff question this person had. I don't know. I wasn't told to look into that. So, bare bones ADA compliant what it
needs to come up to those standards and then move them in. That's it. There's really no Well, then that's their problem. But what are you going to do? It gives
them an option. Gives it Yeah. It gives them a way out at this particular time. Gives them an avenue in which to travel down that's feasible. And number two, at least you get town offices at least started. Well, you got to we got to move
the money back out of demolition, right? I was going to say it's going to be has to go to town meeting. Mhm. Oh god. Because it went to demolition because the select board at the last time meeting didn't take it off. We voted. They should have tabled it. They didn't table it though. So they went to
demolition. So chances you getting that out of there is going to be slim to none. Why? Mhm. Cuz the way people are discussing things that are going on now cuz they think that renovating an old building is more money than building a
new small 5,000 square foot. That's all our town needs. They don't People don't understand that we we've done professional needs assessment, right? They don't understand that we need conference room. They don't understand we need storage space. They don't understand any of that
and that we are being fleeced. Um, I say contracts stay in place until we get our marching orders. Either continue on a different path or we it's dissolved. All right. So now for now, pencil down, guys.
Other than these meetings, that's how it's been anyways. Yeah. And I'll continue. I'll find out I guess a little bit more what's going on and then let you know. Yep. Yep. Lynn, I would I would like to do something with the
recall. It it would appear at this point that no project over $10 million will move forward. So, I'd like to notify the contractors that as of right now, the project is on an indefinite holding pattern and any resulting project will
not require pre-qualification. Yeah. Is that agreeable to the committee or should I just wait? No, that makes sense. Until we hear back, I'd hold off another week or so. It's not going to hurt anything, will
it, Neil? Nope. Nope. It's just I'm starting my email box. I get tickled every once in a week to respond to somebody who's wondering about status. That's all. Um, I thought last we talked, we weren't even sure because we hadn't really
thought about it if we'd have to go out anyways with a new if the project didn't need pre-qualification. Were we going to use those biders or have to go out again because now the it's opened up to a lot
more biders, right? And I wasn't I wasn't sure if you even discussed it if we had to go out again because legally if the project if the project is under 10 million then there's no requirement by statute to
pre-qualify and the project would be open to any bidder in good standing with VCAM right so I guess legally we've had to go out I mean so I don't see why we wouldn't but um I guess we'll wait a second I just wait just who knows okay
we'll Okay. Um Okay. And I'll I'll let you know on that. Or you can email me to remind me in a week if you haven't heard from me. Yeah. All right. What else? Oh, chief's not here anymore. Anything
else? Yes. Um I have a question whether the board or committee would agree to this or not. I would like to send a letter or have someone send a letter to the elections division because I don't feel the correct information was set at the polls. I think there's inaccurate information set at the polls on the
window and our information wasn't there in the beginning. So, um, so I guess to keep you guys in, we had a a yes vote means this, a no vote means that piece of paper that um
was approved to be given out and it wasn't given out. It was it wasn't given out. Instead, something else was given out or posted that said a yes vote means you're for the project. A no vote means you're not. Which a very
simplification oversimplification. It was actually incorrect. A yes vote meant you would hear two new options and then decide if you wanted to go forward with the project. And so, um, I mean, in that other the one that wasn't approved by
anybody was posted in a few different spots where our information was not. It wasn't at the early voting. Um, I just think it should be brought to someone's attention, but if no one else agrees, I'm okay with that, too. It's
it should be brought to the select board's attention, and the select board is the one who's supposed to be approaching this. This is their project. We're just an arm of them. if they're not if they're if they don't uh say anything saying the fact that this was inappropriate, this was not cleared, it should be on them.
But I think what where Dale's going with this is that uh what's the remedy for misleading the public on a vote? The remedy would be a revote. That would be up to the select board. again be up
to I don't have a problem with it because it was improper information cuz I don't that's not my disclaimer. Disclaimer is the board who we're supposed to be in arm of in support of all this should be the one who should be
pushing this cuz this is the one they want and they're the one should be doing it. Okay. But I agree it wasn't done properly. the information. It was like It was misleading for sure. It was misleading. Yes. Right. It was an
oversimplification for sure. And I don't mind losing a vote if it's accurate information out there and it's a fair vote. Yeah. That's what I said the same thing yesterday. As long as it was fair across the board and an understanding cuz we had people coming around saying it was $20 million. I'm like, where'd you get $20 million?
There's all false information out there. And I don't have a problem. Like you don't if you don't want it, good. As long as you have the correct information and you're still like, "No." I'd be like, "I'm good with that then." Right. I respect that. Exactly. I just don't respect the fact when people are getting false information. It was misleading
enough that might have persuaded 62 people. Well, that's what we don't know, right? I don't know. And I don't know in early voting I know it wasn't I I have a few people that went to early voting and said that they didn't understand the question and I said, "Well, there should have been a yellow piece of paper there
and there said they said there wasn't." So, um, it was available at town hall. I did see it out at town hall. So, yeah, it's kind of messy for sure. All right. Well, we'll talk to I guess we can bring it up to the select
board's attention and see if they want to pursue that because if they don't want to pursue it, they don't want to pursue it. It's their project. anything else people have. Sounds like No, not really. What sort of
We appreciate all the work you guys did too as well on the project. I have learned so much. Oh, yeah. From you two that I feel like I can talk in acronyms all day long. So, I will stay in touch with the two of
you, let you know what's going on for the time being. Okay. Um, enjoy your trip to Italy. Thank you. Yeah, I'm in that mode now where it's like, holy cow, where time go before I Yeah. Yeah.
All the things that need to get done before I leave. Mhm. And yeah, fingers crossed that your Hadley project passes tonight. Is it tonight? Tomorrow. No, they pulled it. They pulled it from the warrant. They're going to put on a special town in October. Oh. Oh, wow.
So, that one's on the rocks. Wow. The greater the greater Grandby Hadley area has not been kind to CMS. I just read that Belgtown's two and a half override passed by like 20 votes. Yeah. Yeah. But that was a two and a
half override. Ours was not. Yeah. Ours is not a not override. It's a debt exclusion. Yeah. Which the paper is incorrect. But all right. Well, thank you guys for dialing in. Yeah. Thank you. Talk to you soon. Thank you very much. We'll be in
touch, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. All right. I'm going to send thank Oh well. So it's 5:00 motion to adjurnn. Second. All right. All in favor I