The Thursday, March 26th, Granary Public Library Board of Trustees meeting to order and Sarah McManis, trustee, >> City of Granary, representative >> Electra Branwin, library director. All right. Thank you all for being here.
On the consent agenda, we've got the approval of the agenda for tonight, the bills for the month, and the minutes. Anything anyone wanted to pull out of the consent agenda? I had a question about the minutes um because there I was looking at them and one thing I just
wanted to know about there was a mention here could increase uh the insurance deductible 10,000 to 20,000 was that just like we're just talking about it did any action come from that or that was just a talk gaming point >> just a talking point we did not take any action
>> okay that's my question >> would you like to is do you want to add it this is if you want to add it to the agenda No, that wouldn't be necessary. I was just wondering if action taken to >> move his consent agenda.
>> Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. Motion passes unanimously. >> All right, I'll let you kick us off with your report. I would love to take a minute to
recognize and celebrate uh Andrew Hullberg, a library clerk here who has um achieved his first year of employment with us. He is um very much appreciated by the public who loves seeing the younger face as well as receiving
>> wonderful. >> We are actively recruiting a youth services librarian as well as a library clerk. We are down about 62 hours of staffing every week while those positions remain open. Um, we recently
refreshed and expanded the reach of some of our postings for the position and we are still continuing to receive some applications and would love to make some hires soon. >> Are the applications looking good?
We have been able to interview one person for children's librarian and they have another promising applicant on the horizon here. >> Oh, good. >> Yeah. For finances, I just wanted to report
back and close that communication loop that you were looking for clarification on the NSFCU investment accounts. We had talked about how there was the M lacy and the patronage rebate that we were
looking to move to the 4M fund and we wanted to make sure that they both had to move at the same time because the patronage account, the patronage rebate was earning a 10% interest rate. So they are dependent on each other and the
recommendation remains to move both all of the monies to close the Northshore Federal Credit Union account. Move all of those monies the 18,000 plus the 2,000 to the 4M account which will allow it to gain better interest and remain
liquid. >> Good. Right. >> Okay. Winter reading program is going to wrap up on tomorrow. Yay. And I don't know if you've noticed, but staff have been so fantastic and um participating alongside
patrons. We are as excited as they are about the bingo game. And uh friends of Cook County means that the staff whose raffle is drawn tomorrow will also get a basket. Um but we have one basket left here for a member of the public to
receive and we'll get to pass that out tomorrow. youth continue um to level up with each bingo that they are achieving through their reading and they'll continue to collect prizes for the next
couple of weeks here. Friday night reels series concluded. We offered six weeks of programs and had um I think 124 people attending those. The opening film was Sinners in that one two
Grammys. um best score soundtrack for visual media and best compilation soundtrack for visual media. The film um definitely challenged some of our attendees for the level of gore, but it also was a remarkable film to experience
and just for its vision and uh the the casting was also fantastic. summer reading program though begins now and um that's because it's not only the reading logs that get passed out but
it's also uh a robust set of programs that go along with it including um engagement um activities that and uh ongoing programs. We're going to have bugs. We're going to have reptiles.
We're gonna have the Jolly Pops, which are dad parents who sing to kids. So, we're gonna have some entertainment with the Jolly Pops. Um, I'm still looking for a season finale entertainment
piece. Um, but I'm talking to a couple of uh local restaurant, if you will, to see if they might along with the summer reading program. I think it's just beneficial for everyone to know that Arrowhead Library System does a regional level
planning session where everybody gets to brainstorm around the theme which this year is um plant a seed read. So everybody's excited about the gardening and the food and nutrition aspects as
well as just the idea of planting the imagination with fresh ideas. That's a great a really great theme though. Kudos to the PR person who thought that up or the librarian. >> Yeah. And I don't know if y'all have read the Bad Seed books. There's like
the Cool Bean and the Bad Seed and there's a whole series of these books, >> but that's the mascot. >> So, he he may be getting into mischief around the town this this year. So, we can ask people where he's been hiding.
I want to draw attention to collection management practices that have been going on. Generally, when we go understaffed, the first thing that I put on pause is the collection because it is uh because circulation is a priority because programming drives engagement
and keeps the uh the public excited about their visits to the library as well as engaged in growing. whereas we can often times delay reading the collection and just keep functioning while we're training new librarian one
staff. Um that means that learning how to purchase materials for the library in a thoughtful way. Um learning to do the cataloging of the materials, learning how to weed the collection according to policy. All of that has to be learned
and practiced. So, I'm very excited that we're at a stage now where our new bookshelf that you pass when you walk in is starting to look fuller every day. >> And that means that the whole cycle is starting to function. That these
materials are being purchased is a thing. That they are being cataloged as exciting, but also that they have space to move into the collection is really huge. Um, and so that piece of having paused weeding or inventory in the
collection um, over the years through the several disruptions that we've experienced, being able to come back home to that and really pay it the attention it needs is is important and exciting and happening now. So, um, what you're seeing on this shelf is a bit of
that rhythm and that flow coming back. And that's really I'm really excited. I think I said that That's great. >> Any questions for me? >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thanks, too.
>> Kevin, I'm going to look over your shoulder. My iPad seems to have pooped out here. >> Under new business, we've got the Minnesota Public Library annual report. Um, this needs to be submitted next week.
>> Uh, 31st. >> By the 31st. by the 31st, which is coming right up. >> So, we need to um address any issues today and approve it. >> Did you guys have any questions? >> No, I looked through it and it generally looked good.
>> My my one question that I asked Electra before was our library board is really hybrid and it doesn't appear that there's a place that we can indicate that. So we're both governing and >> yeah so I think we'll leave it for now
and maybe next year we can figure it out. >> Yeah, it's always exciting to see all the numbers and all that. >> It is >> what you've achieved over the past 12 months. Mhm. >> And I would like to say that given that there's been a shortage of staffing, I
think the numbers have stayed really um up and there's been a you know, it's been a good job, a lot of work by the people who are here. >> Thank you. Was there anything in this report that you came across that concerned you or
worried you or were you happy with it when you looked at all the numbers for real like this? >> Are you asking what my interpretation what my analysis of the results are? >> Um I I want to spend more time with that. Maybe come back with some
thoughts. Um let me come back >> okay to you. >> So we are looking for a motion to approve. >> I would make that motion. >> Second.
>> Any further discussion? All those in favor? >> Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. We can submit. I'll sign off on that afterwards. Thanks. >> Um, then we had the website administration proposals.
So, skip to the end of your packet. >> Start from there. Well, I looked at um I looked at the websites that had been done by all three people or all three entities
>> and the local uh person, the young woman who does websites, her work is absolutely beautiful. It's probably worth the money, but I think it's also probably more than we
need, which means it's not worth it for us. The other um and I don't have it in front of me now. Uh the other and is it streamline? >> Streamline. >> Yeah, they do government mostly websites
for government entities. There's nothing they work well. Mhm. >> There's nothing particularly uh amazing or attractive about them in my estimation. >> But this kind of website doesn't have to
be pretty. It has functional. >> Yes. However, the third um provider I thought did nice websites. >> And wasn't that the cheapest one? >> It was the cheapest one. I thought they were fairly attractive.
I mean, I agree with you, Sue. They don't. It doesn't have to knock your socks off. It has to be functional. >> It should be It should be somewhat attractive. >> Kept up to date. >> Yeah. And kept up to date. And the streamline ones just just made me want
to go to sleep. >> And I I do think that we need we need an a an well, I'm going to say attractive, but not overly attractive, shall we say? Keep in mind, we're not doing a full redesign at this point. At this point,
we're just needing to migrate >> and become ADA accessible, >> right? Okay. >> So, we're looking for functionality. >> We're looking for functionality. Uh, and I think that now I noticed that Arrowhead is one of the customers. So, I
take it you worked with this person >> and what is your um evaluation? >> He's very responsive. So when I need changes, usually next day >> um very easy to work with work is accurate.
>> That's great. One of the things I noticed and this may not be something we need but it might be something we will need someday and that is that he works in various languages or he has the software to do that I believe >> and it could be such a thing that we
might >> who knows need something like that in the future. So, my estimation is I I think we should go uh with Sprout.
>> How long a contract do we sign with each of whichever one we choose? >> Sprout does not work with contracts. You come in when you want and you leave when you're ready. And the design of his websites for you are portable. They're made with WordPress, which I think the
others were recommending. Um, Sweetwater was recommending too. Um, streamline is an annual contract and Sweetwater is a upfront fee for
redesigning the website and then ongoing costs to maintain. And those ongoing costs are about $1,000 before we ask for any support or add any plugins, calendars, what have you.
>> Well, I would say go with Sprout, especially since Sarah has actually worked with them and convoked for them. it. We don't have much to lose if we're not committing ourselves for a long time to this.
>> Well, that's true, too. >> I mean, that Yeah, I did I did happen to think of that. If it doesn't turn out to be what we need, we are not >> That is definitely an advantage. And if we decide in a year or two that we want to do a full website refresh.
>> Exactly. >> I think I would be making a different decision if it was we're going to redo the whole website and the look and feel. Um, >> but just in terms of functionality, I agree. I think Scr is a good deal >> and maybe he can refresh it a little bit
>> or at least give Electra the tools to remove outdated material and put in >> current material. >> One of the things that I appreciated about Sprout was that um he was very clear any work that we do together is
part of the $80 a month contract. So we decide to refresh rebrand as far as I understand we just work on that. >> That's that's pretty amazing. >> Let's >> really amazing. >> Yeah. If that Yeah, maybe at some point
you can clarify that because I think we might want to refresh. Not this moment but >> at some point >> at some point >> but even at that we don't need a fancy fancy website with tons and tons and tons of pictures. We have a nice picture
of the library and some pictures of the inside and no >> it's not like we're selling a destination >> exactly >> place that needs a prettier website.
This is this just has to do the job. >> Do you need a motion or just direction? >> I don't actually know. might um we just need to make a decision and say we'd like you to proceed with >> go forth. >> Go forth for it.
>> Collaborate. >> You good with that? >> Yes. >> All right. And then year end expenses review. We do have um before or after the website stuff? Just before um Oh, no. just after the
year- end expenses for 2025. >> Um, always good just to take a look through and see how our budgeting versus actuals turned out. >> Um, as Electra was saying, we've the library has been understaffed, so we expect to see some under expenditure in
a lot of categories related to staffing and that the whole >> Yeah, it's cheaper to be understaffed. Not cool. Cheaper. That's true. All right. And then our standing item is the strategic plan. Um, we had talked
about thinking of quarterly projects. We're coming to the end of Q1 where we focused on finances. We had Kim here last month which was really great. It was >> um we talked about looking in Q2 at focus area one
and which is the library inspires robust community involvement. Um we had chatted about thinking about a survey. Is that something we want to talk about? You know I was doing some thinking about
this and we do want to inspire robust community involvement. However, since the library is underst staffed, I think I guess I would rather that Electra and
her staff continue with the whole uh working with the collection at this point. Uh because on the one hand, if we get people into the library and the collection is not functioning as it should, uh then we've done some false
advertising. But I'm I'm a bit concerned about overextending the staff that is here. >> I think that's a very real concern. Mhm. >> Well, there's enough flexibility that if I can't find the book here, I can find
it and get it from Grand Rapids or wherever, you know, it comes in a day or so. >> That's true. That's true. >> Yeah. The collection is still good. Oh, yeah. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yeah. It's mostly readings uh selection. You know, if I wanted to find out
something about uh bookkeeping, I have to find someplace else to find it. >> Yeah, it's a little library. That's reality. >> Yes. >> Read the library, shouldn't we? >> No, the I agree with you. The collection is good, but it has to it has to be
maintained always. But I am I am very concerned with uh overextending the staff that's here. So, >> I don't know. I feel like we can look into community involvement without completely worrying about overextending
the staff. >> We aren't we don't have an action item here so much as a let's find out more. >> Okay. >> Isn't don't isn't that how you would interpret it? >> Okay. What What are you thinking, sir? What are you
>> I don't know, but I feel like uh some sort of survey that where we could >> figure out and I I have no idea how you do this. Figure out are we meeting the needs of all the peripheral areas around here?
>> Um, how do you feel about that? I appreciate the attentiveness to the impact it would have on staff to try to continue to extend ourselves out when what's needed is to maintain.
Um, when I connect with focus area one and I go back to our strategic planning sessions that we all did together with this, I feel like this theme emerged from those exercises where it was like a
doomsday scenario, right? Some of our some of us had a scenario where the library burned to the ground and some of us had a scenario where we just inherited so much money we couldn't believe it. And one of the themes that came through repeatedly was that our
vision for how we get through and how we make decisions really comes down to community involvement. So it's like we had visions of all these organizations around us coming to our aid or like you know Cook County Higher Ed could help us in this way and these types of
businesses could help us in that way. And in order to ensure that that network is available in a time of crisis or excitement, we need to be sure that we're extending ourselves in a way that's meaningful. And I feel like that
is the heart of what created focus area one. So figuring out whether we are meeting the needs or where those needs are not being met seems on point like it seems like a
first step in that direction and um information gathering is certainly um takes some effort but I but I don't think we're asking for the whole plan to be rolled out at this point. We're just we're finding it out. >> That makes sense. So what I'm hearing is
like we're not at the point of the action items where we're trying to request me meetings and visit classrooms and create the user guide. We're trying to understand which of those might rise in priority and um make the most impact for our community right now today.
>> Yeah, we don't have to do it yet. We have to figure out what needs to be done. Mhm. >> I do think too that so um when you're understaffed, when your services are cut in half because of
whatever thing, whether it's like the pandemic and we're closed or we're flooded in that part of the building isn't available anymore, you really find out what the people who are using the library miss about it. And in so many of our scenarios, the answer was like
access to a bathroom, um, you know, just the basics and a place to come to connect to the internet and the Wi-Fi. But missing our children's librarian and missing the level of staffing has really shown a new picture, a picture where the community is noticing that the books
were not on the shelf. Does that mean we've lost funding? So, it's a perception. Um then there's uh um there are several homeschooling groups that are connected to the library and love the library and would appreciate it very much if we were
able to have some um pop up engagement things for their groups in particular like can you help us get a patch from our um troop our club? Can you show our kids how the
library is organized and that books just aren't set wherever? >> Um, we have folks who are interested in seeing certain parts of the library outfitted in new ways. For example, the
con the um it's not a conference room. This quiet room over here, the meeting room that can be reserved. It houses six people um is so often used as a virtual conferencing space and there are requests to formalize the space in that
way. This is feedback that I have access to through no formal process, but by staying connected to the people who are using the library and feeling uncomfortable with that loss of staff, not having an um a point children's
librarian does come up. And um and it's also fair to say that that data is who's using the library right now today and what they love and miss about it and where they think we can grow.
Um, I think focus area 4 and a little bit of focus area one is saying, but who are we missing? >> Who's out there that we're not even thinking about? Because the voices here are so strong and always calling for attention as they should.
And so I guess that's where my that's where I would be looking for direction a little bit too again is like are we are we determined to uh extend oursel are we looking to
connect with businesses organizations and groups? Are we looking to strengthen the relationships and confidence that we have with the people who are using us right now today? where where are we wanting to grow the most?
Um just even when I think about outfitting this room as a conference space, which I'm just lightly exploring, um you would be looking at an investment of 7 to$10,000 for installing technology
and um furniture to fit the use of a um collaborative offic. Who else uses it besides the people who want to do conferencing? Um, my concern is if it's outfitted as a conference room, would there be people who do use
it who would be shut out of a space that they need? >> We'd be voting for sure on how the space serves the community the best. Um, other folks who use the room maybe just looking for a private study space. the room could still be used that way in the
way that I'm um conceptualizing solving the problems that are being presented. Um I also think it could make the space more popular, more in demand. Mhm. >> Going back to our website conversation, something that excites me about the refresh on the website is being able to
install tools that would allow the public to see whether the meeting room is available and potentially even >> submit a request to use it to help staff manage. >> Nice. Mhm. >> But then also if you install all the technology, the way that it would work
is staff would have to all be trained and be able to inter um intermediate between the technology and the public and trying to use it. Whereas if they are reliant on their own materials instead of library provided technology, they may have more familiarity, but who
is they? It's people with it's people with the technology. So, um, just to talk around the whole issue, whether we're looking at at addressing, um, how this one particular space is used.
And it's a big conversation, you guys, because there's not a lot of available public meeting space in the community. or if we're talking about having outgrown the shelving units that are in the children's room and having a vision for more playful, engaging space and
furniture. Um, we're rolling out a red carpet with lots of tasks involved and and um so it just comes back to who are we designing this library for? How how do
we want it to look for the future? I have a question. When you get feedback, how do you get it? Just by someone happening to come up and speak to you or where where do you get these ideas? How how do they happen? >> It happens through the relationships
that my staff and I cultivate with our community members and patrons. And it can happen from people who are visiting the library and just off the cuff telling us what they're experiencing and how frustrated they are or aren't, how grateful they are about the help that they're getting.
>> It can be I'm in the line at the grocery store and I'm um somebody's talking to me about something that's happening elsewhere and it's all it's all the things. It's not a survey. But in some ways it's as good as
>> trusty feedback. I think one of the things that I and maybe because I've you know come from a place where the library had many branches obviously we're not going to start a new branch that's not where I'm going but Cook County is so
big and I do wonder about accessibility for people especially I think about portage um I have my son works up there So it's it's
present and I don't know exactly where I'm going with this except that I am concerned about access that there probably are people who and I'm thinking about kids for example
>> children >> children you know who don't drive yet for example >> uh I don't know how we I think we need to address it I wish I had some ideas today about definite ideas about how we
could I don't but I think while you know we so often think about it's either or but I think while we try to improve services here we also need to be aware of that
question of access and think about how we might make that work and maybe it's question we can't deal with till we get more staff. >> But I think we need I think we need to >> you know I think about this access
question a lot and it seems to me just based on 70 years of going to libraries that if you want to go to the library you go. You know it's you know, we find a way. I mean, >> maybe maybe not.
>> You know, I mean, >> we first went to bad roads. We had to walk. >> Yeah. Well, I'm I'm going to tell a story. Maybe it is relevant. Maybe not. But I was one time in the old Lexington Library in St. Paul that used to be at
university in and uh Lexington and a fellow came in um he was a little girl and she had to get a book for school and she needed a library card. So the librarian very helpfully gave her got
her the library card. Now these were people who were new to the area. You could tell by their accents they come up from the south. They were probably not I suspect that the dad probably didn't have a a lot of
education. Anyway, the little girl got her book and took it out and the dad said he pulled out his wallet and he said, "How much do I owe you?" And the librarian was a little bit taken back and said, "It's free." He said,
"You mean I can come in here and it's free?" Well, there are people, and there may be people in Cook County, for all we know, who are not aware of what a library does
or that they could come in and actually get books that they could borrow. Uh, I often think about that. It's It moves me. I almost I almost want to cry when I think about it. I I wanted to cry when I was
witnessing it. So, I think that's something to just bear in mind. Yes, if you want to go to the library, you go to the library. But maybe you don't know much about libraries. And I do think part of our mission
over time, because we're not going to do it all at once, is to let people know what the library offers to them. >> Well, and today we do have the interwebs, so that does help. >> It does help. And same with getting
ebooks and things that certainly extended our reach compared to 15 years ago, >> especially with the younger folks. And a lot of things you can just get on your phone and >> even people don't have a lot tend to have both. >> Yeah, that is true. A lot of people have
phones, but how is the how is the access throughout the county? My my daughter-in-law who teaches at the high school >> Yeah. told me that during the pandemic, I don't know if this was one of her students or a student that she heard of
was standing out in the driveway trying to follow a class because that was the only place he could get the strong enough signal. >> Shame, but it happened a lot in Minnesota during that year. >> So whether that is a condition that continues, whether things have gotten
better, I don't know. This county is good compared to many counties. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, they ran a lot of wires. So, >> thank you, Obama's. >> Well, then maybe maybe something to think about in the future is how do we
we bring the library to people electronically? Not just saying, "Oh, hey, get online and look at the website." But maybe there are maybe the library would have internet services of some kind that they could offer people. Maybe a story. You
mentioned the homeschoolers. No, maybe something like that. Um, >> don't you think we are doing a pretty good job of offering people internet here? Yeah, but but I'm thinking what about actual something going on in the library that in a sense is broadcast on
the internet. >> You see what I'm saying? >> Okay, I see where you're going. >> Okay. >> Do we think it sounds like we have lots of ideas? Do we think also a survey is something we want to pursue and start thinking about how we solicit
information from other >> Yeah. >> both users and not yet users of the library. And do we do we have within our I don't know um
in our if you want to call it circle within all of those people who love the library and want to help us. Do we have can we find some expertise about how the heck you do a good survey? I mean Sue was saying I think she thinks we should survey but she didn't know how to
>> and I don't either. But >> I have thoughts though. I mean, have we ever done a paper survey of any sort? I mean, that's a simple thing. If we know we survey monkey, everybody can do that. >> Everybody can do that. >> Um, maybe >> we would just have to think of the the
wording and >> um what are the questions we want to ask. I feel like something like that, like you say, people approach you like I'm a person I would never approach a person someone else in the grocery store and talk to them. Lots of us are like
that. So maybe something some other way for people to be heard who aren't who are sort of antisocial, you know. >> Yeah, I think serving monkey is a great thing. >> It is a great thing. It can also I have
also talked to people who who do know something about surveying. Unfortunately, their knowledge has not rubbed off on me. But if the questions aren't worded correctly, the data, the answers you get are not necessarily helpful or they're biased or
so there is a question of how is how is that done? I'm just I'm just wondering if there is some expertise in the county that we could tap. >> There might be we could search for that. I I imagine how to write a good survey
can be found on the internet too. Mhm. >> Well, yes, >> but >> I would check the lumber. >> Yeah, >> this is true. >> But it would also be it would also be nice to uh if there were a local practitioner
uh would be nice to check in with someone >> and we have to think about what we want to know about. >> Well, see, that's just it. >> Yes, >> that's just it. It's like what you're saying is you want to know if people feel that they can access the library and if not >> what would bring it to them or what
would make the difference. >> Yeah. And you know, could it would it be as something as simple as mail a book, which already more or less exists, or would it be internet, or would it be well, I don't think we'll get a
bookmobile anytime soon, but >> that is one way that >> we because we always think internet. Um, but I think you know Sue is right about a paper survey that could at least you know we all
>> it's old school but it works >> well a lot of that old school stuff does work. >> The internet isn't the salv the it's the answer to everything. >> Wait what? >> Oh >> it's useful but it isn't the answer to
everything. The other thing is sometimes you get answers to a survey that don't feel good. Um, you know, sometimes people are brutal. >> Well, that's okay, though. I mean, we're grown-ups.
>> Yeah. So, you have to have to think about that when you write your questions. >> So, I think I'm going to approach this as um maybe starting this survey with a particular community. For example, if I worked through the schools specifically
wondering how children throughout Cook County are um able to access the li families and children are able to access the libraries or not um and get some feedback about how that survey performs
and then perhaps expand the search to residents living outside of Grand Marray or something like that. >> So start with a smaller population, see what happens with the survey. watch its performance after doing all the research, right? And
then expand it, make it a little larger. And if all we did this year was focused on trying to gather the right information and to start having ideas by the end of the year about the direction to head, >> um that might be a good place, a good position to be in.
>> Um and to just not approach this as though we're going to do the one survey that sol, you know, the one survey that answers every everything. hopefully one that expands how we're approaching. >> What if we >> talking about old school? What if we had
a suggestion box >> and people could just write an anonymous request or or or complaint as the case may be and drop it into a suggestion box at the front desk. >> I would not recommend that.
>> No. >> No. When I when we first bought the lodge, there was one of those sitting in the in the front entry >> and it's it doesn't work. >> It doesn't work. >> No, it it's just an invitation to write
something crazy and stick it in the box. >> Did you get a lot of complaints? >> No, we just sane stuff. >> Okay. Well, I withdraw the suggestion then. Sarah, what experience does Arrowhead have with um with the
community picnics as if I were to think of those as a way to gather in-person survey feedback, having picnics around the valley, excuse me, the um the county. >> Um they're great for getting anecdotal
feedback. So that it's a great way to have a one-on-one conversation, a more in-depth conversation with someone about the cooperative and what they need from it and what their vision is for it. Um, but it's hard to get kind of a broad
survey. We do we have used professional surveyors to reach out to members for surveys. >> Um, those are expensive, >> but that's something we could even look into. like running the patron database is
another way I hadn't really considered >> sending like a paper mail thing. >> What I like about the idea of starting with children and families is that we have access to schools throughout the county. >> Yes. >> So among the four schools you could
easily reach out to lots of families that way. >> I think it's a very good idea. I think it also meets the goal of inspiring that community involvement visiting classrooms countywide. Maybe I can't do all the classrooms, but can I
engage the schools themselves and express interest and create a relationship where they feel safe and trusting to send our materials home with the schools um the student body. >> Sometimes I think just asking the
question is the most powerful thing. Okay. Um, so I have some direction here. I'd like to digest this and see what I come up with and try to present something to the board that you can provide feedback on it at the next meeting if I could pull
it off. And if you have if you have any other feedback that occurs to you after this now that we've done some brainstorming, please feel free to connect. I um I would love to actually meet with everybody >> in the next month or two and just see
how you're doing, see how board service is going, anything we want to touch base on and >> all of that. Great. Okay, what else? Um the last thing we have is just the fund statement from the
St. Paul Minnesota Fund Foundation and that will bring us to a close at 5:45. We are adjourned. Thank you all so much. >> Excellent. >> Well, I'm excited about this way of
looking at It's the 26th, right?