I think we're ready I think probably Craig can join us when he's ready uh we should call the meeting to order it it now being 9 minutes to 5 uh first of all the question is the agenda does anybody have any additions
or corrections to the agenda I'm going to be talking about something a new business about Shel storm shelters on the golf course but that'll be under new business it's not this year's problem uh if nobody has any objection to the
minutes we'll deem them approved unanimously same with the February minutes anybody have any additions or [Applause] Corrections uh in that case the the
minutes are approved unanimously I do I do would note that we were going to have some comparison numbers with reservations between this year and last and so when when that's relevant in on the par report we can do
that um I'm not going to need this anymore because we have this right right uh okay first item is is Paul going to be making the golf report he's here yeah
there he is I see you now hi Paul hello welcome why don't you tell us what you'd like to tell us okay well uh let's see I think where we're at is we kind of made some uh amendments to the uh suggested uh well
well basically we changed our user fees for next year's you know memberships and greens fees and I guess that uh everybody's got that information I believe I don't know if you have any questions on it it's basically it looks like we took the the
daily rates and bumped those up a little you know more significant than everything else seems like our our um as I as I compare to the other golf courses uh anybody that's got any kind of a um early season offering is those
those things are done by the time we even open so in other words our season's so compressed that it it really doesn't even uh matter to to offer something like that for us um you know our
basically our our clientele is membership Le play um in visiting tourism visitors and uh so that's where we're we're increasing basically I don't you know our our fees are probably you
know they're probably on the higher side but uh we we haven't got any complaints uh on our pricing and the conditions have been good so I think that that's what we'll have to do we aren't we aren't uh for we aren't had black numbers yet so it it only makes sense to
do that um yeah uh going through the the memberships and things like that uh those didn't go up too much and things like the students and Millennials were you know we minimum the Juniors is
representing a 5% increase but it's like you know from $105 to $110 so it's not not a big figure um yeah that that's about it for that the uh the only other thing I don't know
if this that's where we talked about this but I had offered up the um selling my Grinders to the course and I'm in the process of just getting some numbers together for that um of course needs a you know we have to we have to keep our
equipment in good condition and all that uh so you have to have good operating you have to have good equipment to do that and I've been using my own equipment for the last what five six years here so um I'm G to I'm going to be selling them so I'd like to offer them to the
course first you know that's so that's where we're at it would be beneficial to the course to have them and um as I was as I was telling them downtown there that that we uh the the cost of this equipment um you know in the last series
of years is really it I mean Golf Course equipment in general was I was it's ridiculously high I mean when you when you think about you know your normal daily cost of things Golf Course equipment it seems
high but it's not like they're selling it at Walmart or anything it's just that's just the way it is um so you know in meanwhile when the dollar changed uh value a few years back the uh the equipment changed too so you know
that the cost of this equipment is almost doubled so anyway um the equipment that I've got that I'm offering is uh it's equipment that we had to purchase to we uh we sold this equipment and I had uh my distribution and so this is equipment
that we we purchased we had to own to uh to go out and give demonstrations to sell them and that's that's what uh that's what they equipment is um so it's you know it's it's in good shape um the neat thing about it is it it's uh the
value of it it holds value because of like what I'm saying the cost of new equipment is just crazy so um uh these these sort of products at at these prices are there's you don't see a lot of them I'll just put it that way so um
but anyway I'm going to be up be putting something together for that uh here pretty pretty quick and uh hopefully that works out for the club and uh that's kind of about what I have going for
now is does the purchase of the Grinders have any direct impact upon our decisions relating to the to the golf feas well um well you know it's the racing of our golf pce isn't going to pay for the ground Grinders I mean the
the the whole commitment to the Grinders the Grinders there's two grinders there's a bednet grinder set and then there's a real grinder set those are the components that go that you have to address when you're you're uh setting up the the the mowing units the
heads um and then I have those in a trailer so you know um when you grind it's it's like about the dirtiest job that there is uh you know as far as maintenance goes it's uh you're dealing with fine dust grinding um so you really
don't want it you can't really do it like in your shop you know you you people do but it's um you can imagine what's going on there you're just putting a lot of Airborne dust in there it's not good for your health it's not good for anything that it's getting into so um you know you're best to have it in
its own space where you can ventilate it and that sort of thing so it's in a trailer now so that works out good we don't have to go through the expense of building a a a space for grinding um I think in the past they had actually ground inside the clubhouse which uh I
would never do um they had you know the the grinder that they had that they have is a uh is just a uh it's kind of like a just a single single line grinder it's it's
nothing that uh we'd be interested in using so the whole idea of having the uh upto-date grinder kit is basically so that you can keep the grinding units um you know within a very close interval like up to a 1
1,000th uh interval of space for uh getting within factory specs of the of where you want those heads to be because we're cutting the grass you know really short um so the the better you have the blades the better the setup on the reels
uh basically uh makes sense for us in that we aren't going to be able to be a uh go buying new greens more the time those are really expensive uh We've kept maintenance on ours but we can keep the condition up we can set
them up uh with these Grinders we can set them up to spec just like a new one so they'll be cutting you know cutting like that so it is an important piece of equipment so um that's why I'm kind of if we had to buy new ones Paul what
would the price be the retail price be well I I don't think we could even consider it so the the cost of uh new ones now with out of a trailer just whatever is like uh like $85,000 for they like about 42
$43,000 each of those units and there's two of them so you know we're I'm looking at uh I'm looking at like 15 15 for my main grinder uh and then eight for the uh bed
knif grinder and the ballot is on the trailer so it's a it's a good deal okay I at least I think it is does anybody else have any questions about what we've seen so
far um the golf discussion may take a while so maybe we could do those things first and come back to that because this is might involve a vote and things of that sort and I at least have some wonder about how high we're going on some of it so I would get it done now anybody object to our doing the golf
thing later on the meeting um I would agree with Dave let's do it now Paul's on the phone he's here okay um my my reaction to the proposal is is that
we're we on the high of our competitors uh but I don't know what the numbers are these days uh the last time I checked it seemed like nine holes for the for the season was you know 400 and some OD dollars
other places and we've been around that going up slightly and the nine hole rates nine holes plus cart you rarely see more than 45 or 40 or $45 uh at the other courses but that's
outdated information so I'm hoping that maybe we can get some more current comparison Data before we go well another thing too when you talk about our competition what is our competition we aren't we aren't in a cluster of golf courses here uh we aren't competing with uh other nine-hole
courses right next to us we're we're basically a resort situation when you look at the the resort situations near us that would be Superior National their their Greens fees are um for their their
uh course that wasn't improved uh the uh uh they've got three n holes and that in and two of those were improved and one wasn't and so the mountain I think it is is the one that wasn't improved uh and that one they're I think
that their fees are in the range from $50 to $79 in season so um you know I think we're comparable to that uh that um that's sort of a situation the other one you
can look at uh that's just pretty much Resort orientated yeah I mean if you look at the jth uh in Superior uh uh City courses yeah they're they're very affordable they're cheap you know but they um that's their thing
they've got the population down here and they're competing for that uh we're a little different than that um you look at somebody a situation like Breezy Point which is their population Bas they've got local golfers they've got
some membership but basically they're they're uh their emphasis is on people coming in for vacations and things like that and their prices are very different like very high also so I uh you know I I
don't I don't think we're we're too high for for those sort of U populations if we need to do something different for the local population might be something to consider but um you know we give 50 %
discount to people in in you know the city tax paying uh citizens in the city um then we've got memberships our memberships are pretty similar uh to what they were last year they're you know we didn't go up a lot um so the answer to that is if you if
you want to golf a lot and you're concerned about the green speeds just get a membership uh and if you're in the city then you're in good shape too but I don't know that's that's my feeling on the pricing it's kind of tough to do it's easy to easy to have low
pricing but um you know I I don't know I we went up a little bit you know what five bucks uh five bucks for the round and I guess another another for the cart but uh you know I don't
know Paul Paul do you know um how our memberships have been tracking over the fast past couple years have they been going up or hold the same it's been pretty stable we you know it's it's been
pretty pretty stable um our numbers are are pretty good for membership one thing that throws our numbers a little bit is we've had the junior membership where we've had you know I guess what was about 40 kids that were on a membership
basically U backed by a grant and so they all got memberships and you know quite a few of those kids came up and played here and there so you know it's a great program um just a single and and couples type type of me memberships those are you know we'd always like to
see improvements on those uh it's kind it's sensitive because we don't have you know huge amount of membership here somebody moves uh you know somebody gets sick or something you know it's U you know we we just you know we miss we miss everybody
that we lose you know so uh you know any I guess anything we can do to promote more memberships would be great um you know but I think it's been pretty
steady over the years here that I've been here it's been been increasing a little bit and it's kind of pretty steady other other thoughts or questions from the members I would offer the agreement with Paul's perspective that we really have no
direct competition no course right across the street the the Superior National pricing is significantly more so for both visitors and locals looking for Affordable Golf this is it and that we often don't take any complaints about
our prices and we are operating in a deficit just the facts of the matter of Revenue versus expense is pretty good Gap there so the more we make the better on know daily fees just to give you some perspective on like
approximate take last year on daily fees was about $35,000 so you know 20% boost on that could be real money you know5 to $7,000 so do you need a motion to approve the price change that would be good what poke
him pardon do you need a motion to approve the price changes well eventually yes when we're finished talking about them or we we can we can talk about it after the motion if you want to do it now well I I would make that motion to approve the price Chang
second for the motion to approve the numbers as they've been presented second from by Bob okay um is there any further discussion how how much up is this from last year Dave it's on the comparison
sheets it shows he doesn't have it I don't have the comparison sheet sorry here's one n nine holes the nine hole fee went from $25 to $30 at uh looks and looks like Dave did a spread sheeet here was
20% 18 whole fee went from $40 to $45 um that's 125% uh there's uh the other thing that would affect that would be cart fees C these uh went from $15 to $18 that's 20%
and on the 18 whole round it went from 20 to 21 to 25 that's 19% so [Music] no that's yours I one you have one why don't I have I don't know I'm being kept
in the dark my gut says we should be at least $1 under 500 what they'll see most every other ninho of course Silver Bay and everywhere else around is uh going to be
in the 400s I guess so $499 or 495 would be my preference on that one but other than that oh on on the membership thing yeah we can go $4.99 that's not a problem
don't single for marketing standpoint yeah kind like fuel or there like buying gasoline yeah I think 495 is a nice number 495 was proposed yeah
is there any opposition to amending the the document to make it 495 instead of 500 for the membership okay um the uh the other thing that I was
looking at was the the cart rental um for 18 holes I'm I kind of I'm okay with $25 um the uh I'm not sure I want to see
such a big ra a rise on the N9 hole rate and I don't know why I have no real intellectual reason or any factual basis for doing other than a gut reaction but if if people are comfortable with that number we can live with
that well it's it's like uh boy sure hate to put somebody in one of our U 1999 carts for $18 for nine holes but uh you know our new carts and things like that I I I don't see too much of a
problem with it I mean you know we have at some point here you know we have to kind of face the fact that the the value of the dollars changed and and most everything else um you know we have to kind of keep up with that to some point I mean I I I
can find I go on the internet and find people uh doing their carts for $8 you know and that that makes no sense I you know we have two things that we're s Golf and carts that those are our two products so you know we have to make
some money on them are there other suggestions or thoughts about what might be in the in the document that we adopt are we still making money on beer and wine yes yeah we have beer and wine
license last year kind of um it kind of came together a little bit late but uh yeah there was definitely a an increase in uh in you know people buying we had a much broader variety people were happy
with it went good um we didn't really sell anything for wine we had a couple of things we brought in to try it and I mean the people that tried it liked it and things but we didn't find a big call for that seems to be just beer the other thing that we could look at was they you know if you wanted to look at a full
full liquor license they uh you can do you know you could have um you know bottles on the wall that you can pour shots out of or whatever but the other thing is it it makes you uh they sell mixed drinks and cans now that
are you know you can get a royal crown or whatever or whatever vodka this there's a lot of different cocktails and things like that they've got preone in cans and those have been popular but you have to have a full-blown liquor license
to get that and they're um I'm not sure if it would be be worth it you know much uh how much do we pay for the license that we have per year well I I I'll have to find out what
the current price for that that liquor liely I think it's probably about 350 bucks and if we went to the full liquor license what would be the what would be the the cost I want I'm just kind of I'm I need to find out the price but I'm
thinking it's probably add maybe up to another, you know so we should we should survey our membership and ask them if we had whiskey here would you drink it here or you going to just go home and do it like
you've been doing it yeah I think our pricing has been uh been good for the what we charge for beer and things like that compared to some other places that you know make a living selling beer yeah um but so
people are happy I think with that um you know I think that if we're offering those mixed drinks those premixed drinks I think they'd be happy with that too I think just be a matter of like you say that would be a good idea to do a survey and see how many people would be interested in would be
you know would consume something like that those premixed drinks are the way to go cuz you don't have to have bottles of anything yeah that's right yeah it is it is for me I'm not
you know we don't we don't really set up for like a a bar per se but it would be real easy to uh at that point you know you might you might just have someone go out with a cart and offer cocktails on the on the course you know I don't know
okay that's not part of our motion today no so no is there any other discussion about the motion that Kate made seconded by Bob and amended by our discussion with regard to the season pass and we're going to have the liquor talk
later that'd be fine some other time yes I think so yeah I was out for dinner when I was down in C at the capital and glass of wine cost six bucks and my wife went out with some friends
and the same glass of wine cost $16 so there is a range there you can tap it a little bit that's why you have to sip them okay well and you lose something when the bartender shakes up a can and
pours it compared to you know doing it right okay is there other discussion of the motion as it's been amended there being none uh call the vote all
those in favor say I I I see forehand here is Craig still voting yep over there yep I there he is that's five to nothing any opposed I I see none all right the motion passes
boy here's something like avoided an argument there so I know you know under new business you want to talk about shelters storm shelters I think it's best if Paul joins that or if we can get a take on Paul's perspective I I've been thinking that
there are four things that our course doesn't have that would help with the marketing of it one is somebody who gives lessons maybe even just one day a week we don't have that at this point um the second thing is perhaps
slightly broader food than just pizza and hot dogs um the third is more more organized events that is more events that are organized at the course either by staff or by the membership we only do one or two at most
that we are that the course organizes at this point and there are a couple others where organizations have scrambles but I think if if we were to have more regular uh things we would
probably have more play in some uh greater membership and the last thing we don't have is any place to go if it rains or or Lightnings uh except back to the clubhouse which from the e t is at least a 5 minute ride by golf cart and by
walking is probably too far to be safely out of either the storm or the lightning so uh I want us to think about not for this year but I want to put on the the thinking caps where we might do with regard to
things that have a roof and walls maybe only three walls but um and maybe a seat you know so that somebody could be away from the lightning and away from the storms and have a rough over their head and and a
Windbreak um I talked briefly with Jessica uh at who uh is the program director at North house and she said she would come up with some thoughts about it uh they don't have if if they build
timber frame uh they don't have to do a 10x10 Lum they can do 6x6 posts which would probably be more than adequate for a storm shelter to hold maybe eight people so she's going to come up with some ideas about that she did say that
in order to keep their U their uh people busy for the week that they do these things they probably have to build two of them now one that was four three or four times the size that we need the materials for that was about 6,000 bucks
oh I'm sorry 10,000 including the roof we only need something that's much much smaller I don't have any numbers but I have hopes we might get two of them for six they don't do walls and they don't do seats if we want to have walls and
seats we can do that ourselves afterwards and I suggested we might want to use as much eight put Dimensions as possible so you don't have to have a lot of cutting yes have you seen the shelter down at school behind the behind the school at at at what school
ISD what is it 166 behind the school there behind the school at by the parking lot there is a shelter which is elegant and open walled and about twice as big as what you'd need about twice what twice as big as
what you'd need yeah or maybe three times and who built that who built it I don't recall I just recall Sheltering there is it is it timber frame construction I believe so it was probably built by the north yeah but it it sure could be and it's small and
elegant and meets its need and it should be a good example to look at I'll I'll go take a look yeah where a relationship to where you go in the gate for the football games is this shelter is it by the baseball field it's it's on
where you drive up on the element side of the elementary school over on that end okay South Side Elementary parking lot towards the between the elementary school and the parking lot and the woods M which you but on the elementary school not the
not by the football field no okay oh I have it's a very nice building okay I'll take a look at you're familiar with it Dave I am it's it's it's again way too it's like bigger than our one at the marina yeah which which we've looked at we' been looking for something smaller
yeah comparable but we had we talked about Dimensions like 8 by8 8x6 maybe even 8x4 if you had 8 people in there and 32 square F feet they've each got four square fet that's kind of crowded but how many times you going to have eight right so you might be able to get
by with 4x8 structure U but then I'm I'm looking for the suggestions in the first instance from North house about what they're interested in doing we always have the option of of having it built by somebody else the only trouble is there
we have to pay for the labor so we can probably get a more elegant construction for the basically the same price if North house bu does it for us there's a similar building up by the nursing home by the hospital oh yeah right on Fifth Street that's closer these are both on
Fifth Street yeah okay I just wanted Paul's perspective on this Paul how many what do you think but this is this needed it's it's really putting me in a spot because we we can't adequately fund our equipment
needs we're looking at Grinders carts you know irrigation systems really a capital plan that's already underfunded and so to add structures it's challenging challenging I you know
the earliest they could do it with the high school students which was her thought that this might be a good project for the high school program would be next spring a year from now what do you think talk about this year's
budget let's see what I wanted to get into the considerations and to have something that we could build if we decided thanks Paul yeah I think I think that uh yeah we have we have some a couple things here we can't do any kind
of barter trading labor this and that uh everything has to just be paid for with uh with with being a city-owned facility so that that's one thing um you know the location of it a difference you know that that's a whole uh that's kind of a
primary uh thing to talk about really where where it's going to go um when I'm thinking when I'm listening to to us talk about it and stuff I'm thinking well we we need buildings for our equipment and stuff and well I I don't know if it's something we could build
where at least we could park stuff in it for the winter I don't know uh um but yeah we we have a that's that's the thing you know we have to keep keep renewing our equipment and
um making a little bigger than the minimum pardon me I say if you were going to use the the shelters as storage spaces in the winter you would want to make them a little bigger than a minimum 4x8 you probably want to be 8 by 8 or 6X 8
anyway yeah and I I think you know I think other things too would we you know could you could you put uh somebody out there you know for like a put it in a location where people like on on leaks or whatever you could get a beer or
whatever there out in the middle of the course uh blah blah blah rather than sending a cart that we don't have uh uh we we don't have a like a beer card Specialty Beer card but you could set up a stand out in the middle of everything too um but you know it doesn't make
sense to do it on a daily basis because uh well you have to pay an employee to just sit there but uh during leagues might might be a good deal um something like that I don't know so is there is there a safety concern with people out there being caught in if we're talking
about in storms and things like that have you noticed that over the years well that's I was a big concern and and there's uh you know you know everybody has a cell phone now and it's pretty easy to get reports
that there's uh Lighting in the activity and we you know we tell everybody just to come in but so if you have people on foot that's uh you know that's a problem I don't know if we're supposed to send someone out to pick them up uh maybe something like that I don't know um but
yeah safeties that a a a thing I I think about locations I thinking about in my mind where would we stick it where would be aesthetically decent and the logistics would be decent and I mean the only place I think we we
can worry about where we put them when we discover discuss the size of the thing and see whether it fits in the places where we might want to do that but that's a down the road issue I think how about this for a question Paul just anecdotally how often do you see this
need for this in your you know you're on the course all day every day all season how many times a year do we have golfers on course and a storm flares up and there's a sort of a you know Run for Cover scenario it's uh yeah it's not that
often I mean people aren't people shouldn't be outo in those sort of situations and and uh yeah we just we haven't had that many situations like that quite frankly we've had on on days that are that bad
for weather basically the course is closed we've had a couple of closed days last year we had qu you know several closed days but because of the rain we had in the spring but um you know as far as the the lightning thunder thing um
you know uh getting caught on the course in in a downpour like that um you know it's it's a pretty rare thing uh it'd be nice nice to have nice to have a facility for that if you did get caught but uh you know I don't it's
not not a regular thing Dave am I right that that North house built a couple of shelters in the W Park and that we just paid the materials and we didn't have there was no problem with the labor issue on that it was included in the price it was
what I mean is right they they they had little spiff not much from what I'm told uh but we don't have problems with the unions or anything like that with North house builds it for us no okay um but
but I would continue to go back to the idea of needs versus wants and we have some pretty significant needs yeah and we don't have to decide anything this year uh with I just wanted you to know that I'm doing
the research having some ideas put together uh sometime by this spring I hope we will have something we can talk about for the next year and be included in the capital program if the board thinks it's a good idea okay how about a
nice pole barn or a quantit Hut we need that for our equipment for the equipment yeah we'd love to have some of those yeah that doesn't have to be a Scenic and I'll bet it's cheap we can if we build it then we have to pay the labor right at po bar and
then we have to pay somebody to build it whereas with North house house we don't get the labor basically donated so you get a nicer product with less with about the same cost I suspect yeah yeah I I helped build a quan Hut 50
years ago and it's still standing you're hired yeah my my parents were both golfers my mother talks about golfing in a thunderstorm standing under a tree hold holding her clubs and waiting for the storm to be over and she
lived to age 92 and as she reflected on that she was surprised to have survived standing there with her clubs under the tree MH well you know she said do like me what was it the golfer from Texas the guy Mexican
guy tabino was Ito who said if you're out there in the storm you just hold of a one iron cuz even God can't get a one iron okay call the question well there we already voted on the motion didn't we sure it was five to nothing oh oh oh
sorry this is this was just the added on thing fell asleep thinks there's no motion he just snuck in that fancy building when you w watching is there anything else you want to do with us before we move on 45 minutes no no I'll let you get to your
business thank you Paul thanks Paul thank you you'll be getting to back to us with a a refined Proposal with regard to the purchase of the Grinders and sufficient justification so that whatever price we decide to pay you
feels good so deep into yeah yes I will P issue for one reason city council report Craig maybe um yeah um wasn't a whole lot on the
last city council you guys hear me okay yeah yeah okay um uh we did uh if you have't if you've been looking at the city website there's been some pretty good updates on and
pictures of what's Happening inside City Hall and the liquor store um we had John come in and give us a little update on what we're waiting for what needs to be finished and um I think as we go through the month of march here I think we're going to get all the shelving and stuff
installed in the liquor store and I see most of not most of but some of the uh furniture for the offices in the city uh area City Hall area is starting to arrive and getting put together um uh
waiting for tables and certain things like that so I think by the end of March um tables for the city council chambers will be arriving um so um I don't I think we are tentatively setting like a grand opening
like maybe in may we might be in there operating for uh a little while but some some electronic stuff is getting moved in and functioning out of that area right now as they proceed to move out of the uh City Works building up on the hill so that was kind of nice to see and
it really looks nice and you know I took a tour of it when I was home uh last month and um the bath are really nice it's going to be a nice addition to public restrooms and stuff like that that we've been waiting to see for the downtown area I think it'll be a good
good positive thing uh the other item on the list uh that we talked about was uh we had uh the uh the city is uh now a member of the the chambers Chamber of
Commerce um we signed a uh commitment to them and we're helping to fund their lobbyists for the chamber that will also be um looking for any any issues that the city may be looking at and currently
one of the things we are looking at is possible funding for our our wastewater treatment plant that's kind of high a high priority right now to see what's out there and I know that um we had
um some people in the cities to ago two and a half weeks ago at their meeting down there just to kind of get used to how that process works and what kind of feedback we get from that for the city
as being a part of that lobbying group helping to um helping to the to help the chamber finance and support the lobbyist basically is what we're doing and you know for us for the city itself uh
um let's see I don't think we had anything else it was a kind of a light schedule um we did pass or we did we did uh approve the security agreement with
Chris skildum um he's doing the vest the uh Vesta um building plot area at the at the uh end of see what street is at on e8th no
third second at the end of 2nd I believe above the harbor light through that area he owns that land he's going to do housing development through there so we're working on um the layout of that with him um that was about it I think as far as
the city council issues or items we had um Craig perhaps we could have a a golf tournament in connection with the with the grand opening of City Hall in
May yeah that's I don't know when they're setting that date exactly but it's going to be hopefully everything gets put together by may I would I would um I would I would pretty much it will be done by me I know that'll probably be done in April but yeah that's a good
idea um uh that's about all I have at the city council um anybody have any comments or questions about the city council report there appears to be nobody determined to ask you or tell you
anything so we can move on if you're ready Parks report thanks Steve everybody got a copy so you have an extra I'll be brief we uh Steve asked about year-to-date
reservation Tes we ran it this morning we're looking about 5.8% down right so 2970 this year versus 3153 last year so that's just you know gross individual reservations not the
same as number of knights booked we didn't run that number I think would be similar in terms of you know if you book for one night versus seven nights is maybe where we're looking at a difference there it looks really well booked is kind of my my
observation of the June July August calendar we've just now opened reservations for September so those two are pouring in but I have no worries there given the numbers we're seeing um the other the other types of guests we're working with are the seasonal
guests you know the all summer people made to October people we've confirmed everyone that's in from last year and we've only got five seasonal sites that are going to be available for the waiting list um prely smaller on that on those of the five they're all the what
we would consider standard sites you know we're no longer offering the premium sites we've actually got two of those that are going to be available this summer for overnight rentals that'll be exciting but yeah Sam Samantha walner our office manager is working with the seasonal waiting list
on finding folks for those five standard seasonal sites how big is the waiting list uh 300 or so people wow we're calling folks from like the 2017 era so you know eight years ago
and a lot of plans have changed and takes about 10 calls to get a yes so it's you know it goes quicker the longer they're on the list but we tell for new folks signing up we tell them it'll be about a 10 year wait oh there was a huge happy with that huge
amount of signups in the co era you know the 2020 21 sheets we can just SE each season we have a sheet and there's you know 50 75 people on those years yeah people are patient the you know something I work on
is the marina waiting list and we have almost never turn over slips the The Docks but the seasonal buoys are frequently turned over you know in the Harvard the moing balls they tend to roll a lot folks have this romantic idea of like having a boat on the buoys and
how much fun that'll be and it's it's not that much fun when the wind blows you got to get out there West so I actually have two so we've got seven seasonal buoys and we have two of them that are not going to be returning from last season we've got on the waiting list I'm you know working down pretty
hard and a lot of people passing they're waiting for docks so might have to put out a little call to the Southshore for boats looking for buoys we've got a couple available uh the big kind of big news here from what I've been working on since the last meeting was the follow up
on the uh additional permits or permissions needed for the Moab Salomon art project uh that we reviewed and had this idea of putting it in the ri wrap rocks of Boulder Park and so I was quick to reach out to our area hydrologist from the Minnesota DNR you know I'm on
really good terms with these folks thanks to our boat launch project and so it was an easy call to make uh I forwarded along the proposal and the sort of summary of the project and it was determined that would not require a DNR Waters permit uh does not
significantly alter the shoreline or affect the water quality so that there's really no additional permits or permissions that we I spoke to the hydrologist about the Army Corps and the NorthShore management board she doesn't see them as having any issues given the
dnr's read I did reach out to the Army Corps they were quick to respond they have no issues with the project and mayor Benson is on the NorthShore management board so that project is SC that proposal is scheduled on next week's city council meeting on the 12th
as when we expect to I'll be there I'll be presenting the park board's perspective Moab will be on the screen I'm sure and the CC uh Ruth pizaro I think will be supporting that proposal as well so well this is a lot of good information that we did not know last
month when we were discussing it so thanks for doing that yeah for sure a lot of great information there for sure is that meeting at 6 is that what time City 6:30 other things we're working on this month is getting recall letters out to our seasonal staff we got about 20 of
them from last year they all have the right to be recalled we hope they all come back we know several won't just based on being students and the you know moving on with their careers but uh we we would hope to retain our core team of adults and then once we know everyone's
intentions we'll be posting openings on the city website as well as you know local W ads in the paper and Boreal and I'm sure as usual there'll be some demand or some needs for custodial and Clubhouse help at the golf course I know we were short last year so
even if everyone comes back we'll be looking at some help wanted ads coming up here in the middle to the end of the month uh CU it's kind of getting into gear up time now like we adverti May 1st as our water opener we've opened mid April when it gets warm and Mild so
this offseason is slowly or quickly coming to an end depending on how the weather turns out but you know getting a few calls right now actually for spring campers and are we open and Spring Breakers coming up it's usually a March thing you know people looking to ski a little and Camp a little and we are open
we have the water we have the electric on but no water service just the Porta putty at the fish cleaning station at the marina it occurs to me that we're connected to the city water and sewer system right correct okay I I thought so but yeah but everything's winterized in
that in that capacity so that's all I have does anybody have any comments or questions on the park report Parks report I have one question and that is do we know have any reason to be concerned or to know why that we are
down 5.8% so far I have no concern okay do we have any explanation for it being down just early could be longer stays is one Theory like just the fact that people that wanted to book on a
particular weekend or weekday that is already booked cuz someone's staying for 10 days and that's only comprising one reservation but it's you know eating up 10 nights so maybe last year people only booked for three nights and then somebody else booked for two nights and somebody else booked for three nights
and that's like three reservations for the same 10 nights okay that's one Theory but I like I say I can look at my grid on my calendar grids for like books and availability and weekends are gone Thursday through Sundays are gone we're booked heavily anybody have any other
comments or questions on the parks report okay uh that takes us to Old business of which I'm unaware that there is any does anybody have any old business in that case there are two
there are special event applications to deal with um one is an update on the uh art art art fair art festival art festival yep in July which
is uh so what they basically saying is you can use all the form all the stuff we did before the only changes are where we've added things they want electrical connections and water and picko
tables estimated people 10,000 July 11th to Sunday the 13th is this the one where they have all the boots and everything okay yep yep this is sponsored by the grm r Colony same form or looks to be the same as last
year the only thing to note is the request for vendors in Harbor Park the idea of a food truck or three in Harbor Park if you know it under special facilities or activities planned we are inviting the County food trucks to set up in Harbor Park and have yet to
confirm the number last year there was one so you know that would be the impact to Harbor Park I gather there is nothing in this that causes us any difficulty NOP
so we could use a motion to approve the art festival's request for modest changes from his prior things moved by forsberg yes second seconded by Castello Matt's been very quiet so far I can't my
hand all those in favor raise your hand and say I oppos same sign 5 to nothing wow the next one is uh summer solstice and Wooden Boat
Festival Harbor boat walk sponsored by the north house Folk School Jessa Frost is the contact Saturday June 2 1 of this year is there anything materially different from what we've
approved in the past in no and this was new to us last year if we recall Jessa did appear and present this to us last year because it was a new idea it's the same weekend every year for the north house the 20 something of June the
summer solstice uh and their wooden Bo show has kind of evolved over the years to now there's lots of activities in the Commons area of the North house and they're hoping similar to last year to set up the Wooden Boats the little small
Craft boats that are handbuilt and uh they want to use our space along the marina basically along the sidewalk area of the marina that's just to the west of the north house campus and so we you know granted this approval last year it
was very successful there was no conflict with the seasonal Marina folks this is kind of not quite off seon for the marina but it gets really busy in the marina in July and August June's a little quieter this weekend is obviously
busy but we made like every attempt to notify all the seasonal slip holders that this was coming and no one had issues and we reserve parking for folks and really no issues here um there was not a whole lot of boats that turned out
so we didn't like really line the shore with boats from the north house all the way down to the old nii and the historic societ Fish House that could or would you know someday happen if things really grow uh this idea of 10 to 20 boats I think kind
of gives you that range of last year was more like 10 but it all depends on who responds and who shows up and I think it's a great use of Marina space people are already down there kicking the Kels and it it brings together bers at the Marina
and the north house is there any are there any questions of board members and is there a motion to approve the request mat I wanted to get in there all
those in favor say I raise the hand it told oppos I see nobody all right five to nothing all right that last item on our agenda is
the Capital Improvements uh 20 2025 goals and priorities um there's a memo there which we all have had a chance to study I'm sure carefully um anybody want to take a minute to refresh what their
[Music] memories I'll take a minute just to introduce this topic it seems appropriate now we've got a full board seated we've heard from city council they had a work session late last year to set their 2025 goals and priorities
you can see those up top and as Craig mentioned the securing funding for the wastewater treatment plan is a top top priority but they're also interested in updating a Citywide Capital Improvement plan for buildings and Equipment uh infrastructure I think is very
open-ended but they're looking at roads and you know inground utilities under those roads and then finally the coast uh Guard Station M the type but this this too has been a an ongoing what's going to happen to the
Coast Guard building I think we're going to start to find out this season or this year is as it's become a priority for the city council to to pursue that um so with that said this this uh Park list is quite old I think it's from about 2019
was the last time we really created a list of priorities for Capital Improvement projects and as you see we've already crossed off thep top two shows good progress uh the other two in the in the I should say the the third one is
ongoing as well as the paving needy roads that's also almost accomplished I think over the last 15 years we've done a lot of Pavements in the Parks and so we don't really have a lot of needy roads left is the good news uh but the rebuild of Bath House 3 remains and I
would strongly advocate for that being a top priority in this idea of a combined wreck hall bath house facility that we identified in the master plan um I know last month we had this on the agenda it got tabled part of last month's packet
was the development plan from the master plan and so if that's if that's handy to reflect on you can see you can see in the master plan are what would be Capital
priorities I don't think these are in any particular order and so perhaps tonight would be the chance to order these or just talk about them in general reaffirm our position on um Bath House 3 recck hall
building and if that's the case then I believe we would engage with you know planners designers Architects to develop a fundable plan for this for this project of the bath house 3 Rec Hall I mean we've always we've for the last
year and a half talked about that being a top priority and the Legacy funding being the mechanism for making that happen well before we would submit any requests for that funding though we would have to do detailed
planning at the you know architectural level yeah so remind me on the on the bath house 3 and the the recck hall those are two separate buildings right now currently separate and you put them in the same building where at approximately same location as the wck
hall is just UPG FRS that gets heavily used and so we've done the best we can with you know lipstick on a pig but it's time to replace that facility the Rec Hall you know it's it's not as the you know use there is way less
it's still more than functional people actually love it it's this you know kind of a local spot for graduation parties and baby showers and it's been really good but so the the priority or the emphasis there would be the bath house
end of things but it would have this like community room like a lockable community room with a small kitchen net and that's kind of what we envisioned in the master plan but all those details will be worked out once we begin intensive planning and would that be the the rec I
mean is that a source of Revenue or could possibly with a new rebuild the yeah minor we charge now like $30 a day for the hall so yeah we could up it to 100 if it was 9 nice and fancy but it's it's not a money maker maybe it would or could be if it
was really fancy and we were hosting weddings for you know $5,000 a night but that we'll see how that plays out in the planning until we get Legacy funding we're going to be doing this out of our own capital budget right the the
funding that we generate and true we do have a dedicated capital budget within the general fund we contribute 160 ,000 a year to that that's how we built the landing and how much is in that fund at the moment gosh I don't have exact
figures it was over a million dollars before we spent on the landing will those funds be able to be used for either of the trail head parking parking and what I would put in with the bath house recck Hall project just as it's
it's an area together yeah it's the parking lot that supports or it's the facilities that support this parking lot so it's to me that's all one project and it's millions of dollars okay so my gat says that we want
to talk about doing things that are visible as much as possible that so that people can say hey Something's Happened for all that money that's true in the sense of the Legacy funding we want to make an impact with it yeah we want to
accomplish something the signage thing has probably not been designed yet has it no maybe we should spend some energy on fight and on coming up with a proposal with regard to how we want to do the the signage question and the wayf
finding um yeah I would agree Steve the public certainly turned out during the surveying and open houses of the master plan we we really heard it loud and clear that we need more signs we need more like a you know welcoming
atmosphere of way finding signs and interpretive signs yeah so somebody's going to be working on that in the next few months is that so we'll have something maybe we could even do yet this year for sure okay
cool other comments yes SP the marina is a long-term project that we just need to push to get that started but that's not a capital intensive thing on the front end
that's a good question Bob because this is something I've we did the master plan with pretty significant Marina changes on the map you know moving the break wall and expanding the Bas and behind it and that's what we put a $10
million placeholder on that yeah it takes Army Corps of engineer work throughout we met with them you know twice during the master plan on a staff level and kind of determined they're not keen on this idea they don't just move
brake walls and that yes we could do a feasibility study of six figures and that would determine the likelihood of moving the brake wall or not so that would be the first step of Marina improvements is studying the
waves and the yeah you know hydrology down there to even determine the feasibility of moving the wall a lot of people are feeling that's not going to be feasible so that then we go to this plan B of kind of living behind the wall making the most of what we have in that
corner with the wall intact which is very well possible to dredge and retain and expand our Basin behind the wall without you know all this Federal Army Corps funding and permitting and the long long road but yeah Step One is
I think to just kind of determine the feasibility of some of the changes portrayed on the master plan so we need we need a feasibility study to make that inner harbor right now bigger and dredge it out and things
like that not really not really okay no but we would need a design engineer correct study from Like A Smith group or one of these you know specialty Marina groups that build marinas we would engage with on a cost estimating
and it seems like um the last weekend uh an anticipate counting on federal funding right now and federal agencies well that's true too the Army court is engaged with the city currently
on a feasibility study and the East Bay sure so there so we've already begun to develop relationships with the core and with this planning assistant to State it's called pass is the name of the federal program I believe we're engaging that right now in East Bay and shoreline
erosion and I would be anxious to see how that plays out and if it's successful maybe that's a stepping stone into the marina into the into the break wall so if if we decided that the priority was the um
Bath House 3 and the recck hall would um would that necessitate like starting um an application to the legac fund for that project eventually once we have plans that are suitable to be
submitted so that means we got to do the engineering and feasibility studies before we can get the Legacy money correct okay that's so sometime so we could building project yeah so like you know we would Engage lhb The City architect that built the shop in the
city hall on plans on you know design and build plans it would they would be 100,000 plus then we submit to the Legacy for the $3 million facility and the funding for that could I mean the initial for the feasibility study comes
out of the capital Improvement and it seems like with the shape that bath house 3 is in we should be moving along those lines sooner rather than later
correct Bob you're leaning forward well it just seems like we could prioritize and initiate all of these things and then just put them in order and figure out where the money is and then start so like you know approaching
Marina improvements is just to look at that as a project see what's feasible uh the campground or the bath house you kind of look at it and see what's feasible wayf finding and signage
you could do with at the same time it wouldn't be terribly expensive a lot of this stuff could move at the same time at a different rate doesn't have to all move in a rush but just give them all a little bit of a push but prioritize them from one through
five one other question is the I didn't catch whether the campground and bath house and W Hall like this one thaty project also local funds this one can just move along I would suggest Legacy for any kind of bath house recck Hall
rebuild for legacy mhm okay this one can move along at the same time and then Marina three expensive ones much more easily than the har to right something should be ready to be sent to
the state for the next round of funding I would think I would too I think it's going to take six months to a year to develop plans to submit but then we would submit those next cycle like the the the application period for legacy funding looks like it's kind of a 6month
window from like January to July if I'm reading that right and then they evaluate and award in the fall and so we're not going to make that window this year for like a bath house 3 gr Hall build we're going to plan that and then
submit that next Fierce cuz the state's going to be short of money I mean they're short already looking ahead yeah so any dollar that's loose Legacy or whatever and are there three or four or bath houses we have four currently yep
one and four are in pretty good shape okay four even though it's 20 years old we call it the new bath house but it's it's endured it was a half a million dollars and it's and it's with stood the time the test of time it's still in good
shape one is that same vintage like from the mid 80s as three but because it's in a seasonal neighborhood where the seasonals use their own trailers it's what I say low miles so it really shows well it's quite fresh and it's the one
we use but um two is a dinosaur I think late 70s it's wooden but we've done great work we put in epoxy floors and new counters and new siding and new roof and it's really in a fine shape it's almost a purpous we didn't open it
during it's under the Park office kind of above the front row oh okay yeah and it's we didn't even open it for the year of Co No One Missed It CU again it's in a seasonal neighborhood doesn't get a lot of use it's on the list as a rebuild
down a little bit farther south because of uh keeping everybody within 400 ft of the bath house right but to me that's a much much lower priority than the Rec Hall 3 rebuild it it should stay on the list but it could be another 10 years till we
address that right do you have a budget expense for one and four for putting money into them each year to upgrade yes so but two and three not so much yeah two has been spent on three not so much three we didn't rer when we reroof
the other ones 5 years ago cuz we just kind of knew we needed to replace it as a whole mhm was I hearing the members right that you guys were looking for more of a schedule yeah funding source for each one as much as we can have so
maybe next meeting prioritize these one through five and roll Capital into that and see what can be done for cheap while you're waiting for the big bucks but you have to you have to put numbers by them and then some tentative Finance numbers
by them and then just give all of them a push and see how they move I think number two and number three can move effortlessly while you're doing number four and number
five I agree you know and you you can do the small stuff that isn't too expensive while you're working on saving money for the big stuff these These are set up almost as competitive things but they're not there's two big ones and three easy
ones and we should just order them that way and then give them a start yeah like in a future meeting just have a discussion of okay how we going to do this I heard it saying that the that the trail head parking and the bath house
were you thought as a combined project mhm so they that that that do a an item too yeah like the first and the fifth last are somewhat combined you could take trail head
parking out of there and add it to five and still change the checkout lanes while while nobody's watching with the campground but The Pedestrian Trail improvements and the improving traffic flow is not necessarily tied to that true the The Pedestrian Trail
Improvement is that Harbor Trail we looked at on the master plan where it's separate from the road it's on the south of the road that is a distinctively separate project definitely yeah so so why don't we have a meeting and assign all the $10,000 projects to start and
then save the big ones for later or at least doing what has to get going on them to get them going yeah like number five that stuff needs to get rolling on that okay does is that enough for you I'm
comfortable there I I'm just I think I've already pushed Us in this direction of like signage and wayf finding being low hanging fruit affordable in our own budgets we need a new entrance sign y we engage with a designer in a look of the
fonts and colors that we're going to use universally throughout the park I think that's a like we start that now sure and then this and then you know co-currently we talk to lhb we get them on board for Designing the rec hall bath house 3 but
we know it's a longer project you know I I have a pretty good sense of this list and then put blowing up the brake wall for later yeah yeah and like the maintain and improve General Park amenities that's pretty
similar to site upgrades to high value sites that's something we're aware of and it's even something we're doing now refurbishing picnic tables buying new fire grates putting down class five on pads that's something we do every
year but yeah the big big ticket items here we need to get going on in a priority order and I think the bath house 3 and Rec Hall is the first priority some of my dog walking companions were of the opinion that the trail the the lake Loop is getting worn
I don't have an opinion but that they passed that on to me like the granite L there's a there's some sort of a granite sand yeah we can refresh that yeah the other question I have is not about the rec park at all but about marketing the
golf course to city and county people are already doing a bunch of stuff for uh for uh the internet and that sort of thing and I and I think we talked generally
about having some ideas for how we might spur interest amongst County residents to get their golf clubs out of the garage I've talked to several people who used to play and they they need a reason to come out and and dust off their clubs
and both local city and county uh so we should have Paul give some thought to [Music] that yes I know we got excitement there any other business before we adjourn
well it's it's nice to move from being reactive to Advanced planning sounds more optimistic I think we've always done a good job with that Bob I think our recent accomplishments will show that yeah in at least in this department we we've had a master plan from 2009
that was the reason why we have the new boat launch and the landing now we have a master plan from 2023 24ish that's so we could now use that a new blueprint yeah yeah that's always very optimistic to to move on
it yeah it's going to be tough to beat last year's achievements of like yeah when when we looked at that list that the council had like hey what did we do this year was a lot that's going to be tough to be but I think if we get a new entrance sign up this year if we get some good solid plan to submit to the
state for funding for Bath House 3 that's those are my big two priorities okay anything further I think we ought to pump the water out of the out of the end of the boat Channel and just throw
it over the Rocks I was thinking of moving one rock at a time yeah they won't notice yeah rather than move the whole thing just put a you know 12 in 12 inch conduit in there and keep the water
moving yeah that could they might not recognize that one they they do that in New York feasibility well have we said wish to say today very profound meeting in that case I will declare the meeting
adjourned thank you all thank you from your long distance thank you yes thank you Patrick well they say