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And action. >> [clears throat] >> Good afternoon. There being a quorum present, >> [clears throat] >> Matthew Wolfe having had to resign because he moved out of the city and Craig Schultz, the council member not here today, but the remaining three members of the

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board are here. We have tentative agenda that was set out ahead of time. Does anybody want to add anything to it? >> No. >> As I recall, there's one item we're adding that's not in the printed list. >> Correct, Steve. Yeah, we got a special

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event application from the music association. >> Is that for the sound business? Sound garden? >> No, it's for the pickup truck opera. >> All right. >> We'll slot it in under new business. >> Okay. Any other requests for change? There

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being none, the agenda is approved unanimously. To minutes. Anybody have any heartburn? >> Did you find it? >> No. >> There's a typo on page two, second to last line.

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It says they change as out use patterns change should be our use. >> What's the subject matter under which you're talking? >> Under old business. It's a typo only Kay would have found. >> The there's Kay's sentence?

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>> Yeah, it's a typo only Kay would have found. But I got here first, so I found it. >> You win, Bob. >> Thank you. >> What is the typo? >> It's our and it's >> Change the T to an R and we're good.

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>> We got you. >> Okay. >> With that change, move approval. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? There being no objection, the minutes are approved as amended.

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Uh let's see. The next thing is the golf report. If Paul's not here right now and not available on the link, we will put that to the bottom of the agenda and hope he can make it.

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Cuz Dave, do you have anything to give us for the city council? >> I do not. >> Okay. >> Craig said it was super light business, nothing significant to report. >> Okay. Uh >> [snorts] >> Parks report. We had a one distributed

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ahead of time. Do you want to highlight it? >> Yeah, you got Steve. So, unfortunately, we're lagging in our business of camping and boating. We've been recording this all last few months. May was down, June was in fact down

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uh similar percentages May, about four. And so now we've, you know, run the year-to-date numbers January to end of June, we're down 3 and 1/2%. It's about $25,000. Why? Weather. Price of fuel.

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Canadian traffic or the lack thereof. Um you know, those are the big three. Mostly weather. >> On the other hand, I spoke to somebody today who said he could only give them three days cuz the park was full.

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>> It's July and August now that's the case. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Unfortunately, it's hard to make up this because July and August is usually like running 90% full every season. May, June, September, October, those are what we know as like a growth month or a make it or break it month where,

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depending on the weather, we do have the capacity. >> As we get closer September and October, we might want to decide whether there's something to be done to generate business for those two months. >> Yeah, like keep the weather nice. But we've we've definitely been

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monitoring this as a Yeah, should we do ads and you know, fall ads? I hear what you're saying, Steve. This is a We've never been in this position very very often, so we're chasing last year's numbers. We'll be talking about this

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with city council, obviously, as we get into budget season soon, so something to pay attention to here in the next few months. We'll take a look at a draft budget next month. Um and then so the the other big project we've been working on is this SHPO review. Remember last meeting we hired

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Duluth Archaeology, Susan down there's doing great, has already got the rough draft done for the phase 1A, which is like a review of the literature. >> For the viewing public, SHPO is S H P O as in State Historic Preservation Office. >> State Historic Preservation Office.

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Yeah, SHPO. So, yeah, step by step we're getting our our paperwork ready to submit. Um and Susan's also filed for this permit from the state to do shovel samples. So, on the sites we intend to disturb

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if the state determines that we need to do shovel samples, which we're pretty likely [clears throat] because they in the past had a few finds. Um we've already got that permit filed. It takes maybe up to 60 days to get that, so that's where we jumped on this a month ago. >> [snorts] >> We're right in the thick of it. We hope

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to have all this wrapped up by the end of this >> [clears throat] >> of summer. Um as we know, the contract with the DNR is kind of ready as soon as we are. Now it's July, that was the start of their new fiscal season and the checklist for pre-contract work is SHPO is really all

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that's left for me. So, we've we've cleared the Department of Health, we've cleared the wetlands, the biological review. what else is left? Once it's in a package, there's kind of a

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final I think it's I forget what they call it, but we're getting really close is the good news. >> [snorts] >> Uh what else we got going on? Hiring seasonal staff finally just in time our weekend late depending on how we look at it cuz last weekend was really busy. And

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we could have used these guys, but we hired three new maintenance workers. One's going to go full-time, two are going to go weekends and nights, which is where we really had some gaps. So, these were like pennies from heaven as far as guys showing up late last month.

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So, you know, responsible mature adults we're really pleased to have that last one to lock in hiring. Pretty much compliments our team now to be full where we were easily two people short. So, with the two part-time helpers, it's it's the equivalent of

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what we need. Uh quick reminder for the the art festival starting this weekend. I was just talking to Ruth tomorrow in the art colony. They're getting ready to set up tents and that you know, that whole downtown gets shut down starting

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Friday. And the Howard Park obviously will be used for some art festivities. I didn't get confirmation of separate food truck, but we know this is the weekend of Fishburgers and will be set up and remain set up throughout the month and open on

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weekends. So, it should be a big weekend for the art festival. And then the starting picnic actually falls on the 30th of July, so can hardly wait to get through that. Uh great reminder for vacancy on the park board. Obviously doing all the

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public awareness I can announce. You must be a citizen of town and you must be available for this one meeting a month, so seeing how I'm going to work with Alyssa on a poster or flyer or something like more press around this cuz it just hasn't attracted any applicants yet. But

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I feel like maybe people don't know about it, so we're going to get the word out. >> What about on the board though? With the rolling? >> Yeah. >> You know. >> I'll I'll mention that to Alyssa. Excuse me, I got to see Paul's like

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ready to join. Maybe not. Sorry, trying to do some things at once, so Um yeah, that's yeah, for sure we need to get a member. I know the park um sorry, the library board is looking for a member as well, so

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some friendly competition there Electra. But yes, obviously peak season. Last weekend was insane cuz it was 4th of July on a Saturday with perfect weather. And so I you know, it was probably one of the busiest 4th of July's in recent memory for

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I think just day traffic. The park is full, it's full, but the day folks really flooded the town and you know, obviously left an impact with all the all the trash. Like we spent most of the Sunday cleaning up downtown

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and the park. But it's good to get through it. So now we got picnic. >> Any Anybody have any comments or questions on the park report? Neighbor, are we are we set for the new building? We know where it's

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going to go. >> I think so. We haven't changed our mind from our original concept. >> And the angle it's going to go what? East-West? >> [clears throat] >> And in that last slot? >> Mhm. On the north side of the corner.

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>> So it'll take out one or two sites. >> Probably like four. >> Four? >> sides? >> Yeah. Yeah. But >> But I think [clears throat] I think then as I recall somewhere >> Two or so we can gain in the bathhouse two blocks you know we can replace with

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two so it might be a net loss of two sites but primo sites versus those kind of back row sites are going to make a difference so too like the sites we create on the bathhouse two block we're going to charge more and be more occupied and I guess when you say set Bob we're far

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from set like the the concept is that it'll be on that north corner but the the real like detail of the design will be what we engage this fall and winter once we get the contract signed we'll have the LHB team back in around the board talking about the design and all

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those fun details of the aspect and orientation and >> And then it'll take those sites out of commission for the season. >> That's something we need to plan on based on the construction schedule yes we need to if we're going to break ground there next summer we don't want

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to book those sites. So again we'll have to time this out this fall. We don't have to wait till November that's when we would start to take you know May reservations. >> So there's no possibility of starting construction in September October? >> Not this fall. >> Okay.

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>> No. It would be best case scenario we'd have the bid out in the wintertime. Like in January to March >> I could see them start and be done by June 1st or something. >> No gosh no. This is the Northland. They we could

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if we get you know good bids good price in the in the what would be the late winter we could break ground in the spring or we can talk about this decide this cuz we don't want to disrupt the season. Maybe we break ground in the fall get

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the slab in finish it in the [clears throat] summer of '28. All right, there's there's definitely some strategy to this and timing and I don't want to pretend to know all the answers at this point cuz we still need to sign the contract with the state, make sure the

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money's [clears throat] in place, and then start to work with the alley street design team on the actual spec and design to get a bid pack to that gets bid. Prices have to be right, right? There's a lot of variables at this point. But as on a loose timeline,

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I'm portraying a fall of '27 with the foundation in. Finish it in the spring, early summer of '28. >> Okay. Any other questions or comments? Then we can move on.

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New business. The first is James Everest. Is I understand that he's with us now? >> Yep, that's me. >> There he is. >> Up on this up on the screen. >> Yep. Yep. So we got you, James. I can do a little introduction here for those that does

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that haven't met James before, which I think most of you James Everest, Twin City artist, did the sound garden installations at the Harriet Park. Two of them, James? Yes? >> Yeah, the first one was in I had done some stuff before even earlier. That's what I when we first met with with

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Catalyst, the dance company. But then in 2018, I came up and I made the sound garden, you know, a sound installation that took over the whole the whole park. And then um that was so much fun that people have been asking me to when we were going to bring it back. So we brought it back in 2021. I was able to

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get it some more funding and um get a arts touring um grant from the state arts board to bring up um in 2021. And we did that one we also um added another layer of of recording some oral histories from local folks that were had been part of

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creating Harbor Park. That was part of why I was inspired by to do the project in the first place. It was a such a great story about the community coming together and um, taking the old gas station and instead of selling it to a developer to put another hotel on the waterfront [clears throat] and block it off and

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make it private, it became a uh, a common area um, and such a such a jewel um, as a centerpiece of town and uh, for the whole community and it just was such a great story. I just wanted to do something that would celebrate that and highlight it and um,

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so I recorded different people like Genie Erickson and Frankie Jarchow and um, people that have been involved with either the garden club or, you know, the transfer of the land and um, I recorded them all telling their stories in in the park about how that

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came about and I have this uh, app now and uh, we can uh, there's a free app you can [clears throat] download and then scan the QR code. You guys probably all know all this, but anyway, and you can hear these oral histories and these different stories uh, and poems that were part of

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the project. Um, so it was something I was meaning to do when we when we were after we did it in 2021 and uh, but things just got away and there were and then I thought, "Wow, it's the 20th anniversary of the park. We should really find I should get around and finish that up and get it up and

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running." So, that's sort of I guess I assume I kind of jumped ahead. David, you were going to introduce me and then I just >> Oh, no. No, I think you did just fine, James. It's just uh, so and we actually previewed this two

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meetings ago, I think. This was just on my parks report that we had met and you were working on the sign. So, we do have that base knowledge and I did send out the draft the latest draft of the sign, which is basically what we're here tonight to review and tell us what you think.

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>> Yeah, right. It's I'm just looking for feedback. I mean, the idea is that this would be a sign in the park that folks would be able to, you know, the idea is if they walked up and had heard about it and knew about the Sound Garden, great. But if they didn't know anything about it, that the sign would

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both pull them in a little bit about what it is and then make it a really easy process for them to kind of do this tech thing with scanning the QR code and listening to the to the tracks. And I had a I had another friend test it

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out for me last week and he gave me some more feedback trying to pair down the sign in terms of being too wordy, but still not leaving people going like, "I can't get it to work. I don't know what's going on." So, trying to find that balance. So, I don't

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know if any of you have had any This latest version is I really tried to pair it down, but still give some background. >> I only have one question and that is when will the Sound Garden be available to be heard? >> Well, actually it's available right now.

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You can you can take this same sign and just will go over to the park, scan it with your phone and you'd be able to and if you had some headphones or you could play it through your phone speaker, you'd be able to hear it. >> So, it's going to be year-round you're telling me? >> Exactly, yep. It's going to be a virtual, you know, thing that's there

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and it's geolocated geolocated audio, which means that you turn your GPS on on your phone and then depending on where you move around in the park, it'll trigger a different story or a different poem. Or a different piece of

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music. And so, but it'll be virtual, but year-round. That's kind of what people had been asking. They were like, "Oh, you know, they liked the music when it happened live, but they were like, is there any way we can hear this music?" It's a whole symphony that I wrote for Harbor Park. And for and I really I did it all there

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in Grand Marais. I was I spent several weeks there um, music and trying to create a good soundtrack for being in the park. Um, so, um, it's kind of cool that there's this opportunity to have people be in the park and get to hear it. Um, but they'll

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and and I've had it in the park set up actually these years. The issue was getting this figuring out the finalized version of the sign and getting it approved and and put together this kind of final step, so. >> So,

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you think that I have the question of when it's available you might put a footnote in there somewhere that says it's available in your room. >> Yeah, it's it's sort of a new technology, Steve, where it's it's always on. It's That's

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you just sort of know because it's this like personalized app that's on your phone. I don't Yeah, it's like that's the that's the message we're trying to present is like it's always here. You just need to scan this and start your journey.

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All right, James. >> Right, yeah, exactly. And and but I am trying I'm trying to make sure that someone doesn't scan it and then goes, "Ah, I can't figure this out." You know, or it's not working for me or oh, it you know, it's like any kind of new technology, there's little glitchy

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things that can be you know, can be frustrating. Everybody has a different phone and a different, you know, different phone service. So, trying to make something as easy as possible. Um, Nate, my friend who went in, he lives up there and he went to test it out. Um, he had better luck

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downloading it when he got close enough to um the uh coffee shop Wi-Fi to be able to it downloaded the thing it downloaded the app a little faster when he did that versus just having his you know, LTE coverage in the when he

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was standing closer to the water, but um >> [clears throat] >> And is it truly a two-step process of first you need to download the Echoes app and then you need to scan the code. Is there any way to combine that? >> Well, what I had originally been saying

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and what I used what I just had normally done is just put the scan and when you scan it, if you don't have the app >> Yeah. >> you can then it'll take you to the >> Yeah. >> Yeah, cuz I think that's what you did, Dave. And what what Nate found was he just was and he was and this is maybe

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the biggest question we have is what he felt like was when he did it because it wasn't instantaneous, it was all this stuff about oh, you know, composer J.G. Everest and you know, this this this Harvard Park song right he had he had to scroll down a little

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bit to find the the button where it said download the app on, you know, the Play Store or from the App Store. And he thought, oh for him that was like made him feel like I don't know what's going on. I can't it's not Why isn't it playing, right? Um

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so, another option is to just have the the one step where they yeah, they just scan that and then we just explain scroll down to down, you know, to find to download on the App Store. Um that sort of I I've I've gone back and forth with the with the draft version

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where I I had that in there for a while and then I thought, well if we did if if they if we tell them to download the app first separately and then they have it. That's what what Nate's suggestion was. He said, just tell people to download the app. Everybody knows how to download an app from the App Store. And I was like,

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well, I don't know. Like everybody is so different with these things. So, it's I've really trying to find that whatever the most middle ground that, you know, um has the best way >> focus group. >> [laughter] >> What are you guys? >> Exactly. >> We should be down there.

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>> I'm pretty sure Yeah, and I we have a dog there who was present. It's not listed in the minutes though. I I was I noticed it. There's a focus group right there. Sorry. >> So how many how many posters do you see posting?

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>> Well, these would be a sign like a metal sign. And probably three-ish, like maybe four. Maximum. But certainly on the edges, like on the east side and the west side, maybe one in the middle by the pine tree. >> Uh-huh. >> Like there's some mud pit stands there now, like some rock.

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>> And maybe by maybe sort of you know, make that the tower of information. Or we might separate two cuz you know, it's different. >> But that's what I That's what I had imagined. Yeah, like kind of by that the dog doggie bag

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station, you know, that that entrance and then at least one and then at least one over on more on the trading post side. Uh Just so when people enter, they can you know, they they come across it. But not I don't want to I don't want to clutter the park at all you know. So as

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much Yeah, just a low low small footprint, but still something that people don't you know, aren't looking for and they can't find it either, right? Cuz uh There's a >> Something like 18 by 24. >> Uh-huh.

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>> As a maybe a small version or like a 20 by 30, you know, as a bigger version. >> That sounds big. >> Oh yeah, I was thinking more Dave, I was actually thinking more like a 12 by 18. >> Okay. >> You know, but I But I don't know what you

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>> But But like with the small print even, that to me is like >> Oh yeah. >> 24. >> If you If you got I mean, you have more experience with signs and with printing those metal signs for things and I I I didn't I really didn't want to have it

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be blocking the views or anything. Uh you know, >> So maybe 12 and 18 [clears throat] and 18 and 24. Yeah, it's going to be smallish. >> This is cuz I When I print it out on 11 by 17 or 11 8 and 1/2 by 11, you know, and I think if that got enlarged just to

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uh uh >> 11 by 17 >> 11 by 18, maybe that would be I mean, this is the fine the very fine print about the State Arts Board and the funding, that can be pretty fine print. I >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> It's uh but but the other stuff I want

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it to be readable and so um yeah, I mean, I'm I'm really open to um you know, your feedback. I don't know if it's if if if the way that the place where you usually print signs if if they have a way where you put it in and then

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you can kind of proof it or, you know, and get an idea of how how big it ends up being, but um >> You mentioned >> There's no Wi-Fi down at near the end of the coffee shop. Is there any other Wi-Fi that we might hitch our gun at the

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East Side of the Park? >> I don't think so. >> You don't need to know, it's it's it was mostly Nate just didn't have good service for whatever his carrier is there, but I think other people I mean, Dave, you were down there at the park when you did

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it, right? When you downloaded the app, or did you do it in the office first? >> No, I was right there at the park. It worked good. >> It's like the coldest day >> Yeah. >> that week. But um and yeah, I I did too. I didn't have any trouble with it. So, and it can, you

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know, I think that kind of thing changes from day to day, too. It depending on I don't know if it's the weather, humidity and um but has anyone else tried it, actually gone over and just just to test it out by chance?

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>> I I just downloaded the app at home and um Yeah, and that was fine. Um >> When did you go to the park and it's freezing now? >> Um I didn't yet. But they were the hell's paved with good intentions. >> Yes.

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>> I had really good intentions. >> [laughter] >> Yes, I did. there now then. Do I understand correctly that we approve this we don't need to vote on anything at this point? We We this is more by way of information and except maybe for the sign question. Yeah, we

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don't need to make any votes or final decisions. This is a preliminary review of James's ideas and text and graphics and this content and it's I think it's definitely a draft. It's going to be

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great once we're everyone's had their eyes on it and like put it together. Maybe that's next month for a final like approval. I think You know, what is your timeline, James? I I know this is the sooner we get it up the better because of the busy season, but >> Yeah, well, that's it. I mean, and there

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was an article in Boreal that if she did an interview with me I think I shared that, but and that ran. So, that's kind of nice. They're they just kind >> I have a suggestion to save time. We all liked it. concept, right? And the size

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is more important maybe than anything. So, we agree on 12 by 18. And then we approve it. And whatever content James is finalized doesn't need a second I think >> As long as it's not

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I reiterate my suggestion that somewhere in the document it says available in your brown or something like that. >> Duly [clears throat] noted. >> So, a nice a nice sign that the DNR puts up at like watercraft sites. >> Yeah. >> With kayak rules and things like that.

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>> We have that down at our launch. >> That's about the only thing. >> Yeah. >> And I think that color and that size will keep it in keeping with the rest of the DNR stuff up in Devil's Lake State Forest. It looked like that. >> Like the DNR brown?

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>> Well, I like it, but that everybody does. >> I I wouldn't [clears throat] >> I wouldn't put that research on this. I would I I mean personally I would it's not a DNR park. We did get grant money from the DNR to keep it naturally and scenic this ish. So that's why we keep a

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very small like non-intrusive sign. But I feel like it wouldn't benefit from the their brown uniform treatment. It's it kind of stands out in a white with black with in the full color content you see it like the the logos in the bottom are colorful

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and I'd be more comfortable with white on black. >> So those are colored? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That'd be nice. >> Especially with the QR codes. You couldn't put that on a dark background. >> Okay. >> But I like the idea of a motion to

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approve the concept or the no more than three 12 by 18 signs. >> I thought it was four. >> No, three. >> It was four at one point. >> Less is more. >> They're only coming in >> One of them and you said one on the west side, one in the middle.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Nobody's coming in from the lake or if they are >> [cough] [clears throat] >> They'll see it. >> Yeah, right. Yep, that's what I was imagining two or three. Yep. I think I think three gets us you know, will make it real

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will make it easy to find but not overwhelming. So. >> So David solicited a motion to approve the 70 K. >> I'll make that motion. Sure. >> I'll second that motion. And I guess you are seconding. >> Sure.

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>> Okay. Any further discussion? And let's all raise our hands if we're in favor. I see three votes and none opposed. Okay. Great. Thank you, James. >> Great.

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>> Thank you Thank you all very much and if any of you do have any other thoughts as you you know, suggestions or questions, please Dave can pass them along or Dave can you can give my email directly and I'll definitely try to get a kind of final final version and you

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know, if anyone has any any other thoughts, we'll get it get it going. >> Yeah, for sure. Once that final version's out there, we'll pass it around. >> Okay. >> Before we print, it'll be like the typo editing. >> Right.

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>> Yeah, okay. Maybe a good thing to take the final final and walk down there and do a walk through of as it will be. >> Yep. >> Yeah, well and I I I was going to try to once things get in place, I was going to try to you know, come back up and I'm in Quincy right now, but I would try

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to come up and help with that or at least check it all out and get it all make sure it's all functioning and everything. So um I was planning on coming in the middle of August, so if that might be good timing. >> Perfect. Thanks, James. Ciao.

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>> Great, thanks everyone. And Dave, feel free to any of you if you want to see a little more of that article in Borealis that just came out I think about a couple weeks ago and has some good background. >> Somebody might write a column about that for the local newspaper, too.

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>> Yeah, they might. >> Okay. >> Thanks, James. Ciao. >> It's all right, take care. >> Do you want to try calling Paul about more time? >> No, he's on. >> Paul's there. >> Oh, he showed up. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Hello, Paul. >> Hello.

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>> Are you ready to do the golf report? >> Sure. >> Fire out. >> Okay. Um well, things are going good. We had a good 4th of July weekend, busy at one of the last Friday was

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revenue-wise was, you know, the largest one we've we've had. Um so, that's the end. And you know, [clears throat] looking back to to the history of the dates, uh or even though it's last year, I looked at

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uh the end of June from last year and they were right about the same. And uh so far in July, we're right just about identical numbers to where we were last year. And last year we had a really good year. Um

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yeah, so it's it's going well. Or it's good golf weather. It's hot and dry and of course, agronomically, we'd like to have uh have some rain. We'll we'll be in trouble here if we don't have some rain coming pretty soon, but uh so far everything's uh

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holding up good. People are liking the course. I think it was course is really good over the fourth weekend, so we had good exposure and all that. Um yeah, so yeah, things are going good. We just uh just would like to have a little more

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rain, I guess. And it's um um but uh yeah, [clears throat] I mean, all the uh irrigation system is under high demand. It's uh working every day. We're using the irrigation system, so it's

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constantly charged. And um so far everything's holding together. In fact, last year when we fired it up, or this spring when we fired it up from uh uh blowing it out last year, that we didn't really have any issues, which is unusual. So, we've been

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uh well, you know, we've been doing well with the irrigation system so far. It's been working good. Um but you know, we're having the dry weather has showed us a couple of things about weaknesses in the irrigation. So, recently [clears throat] we just uh

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got a couple of units put together for doing hand watering, which is we can go out There's There's areas that uh uh >> [clears throat] >> uh next to the green that >> [snorts] >> have poor soil and they get they they start looking like they're going dormant

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almost if you don't keep watering. Well, we don't want to keep watering the green at that at that rate. The greens don't need to be watered that heavy. So, we've got these watering units and we can just go you know, heavy put heavy uh

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applications of water on those areas that uh that are droughted. So, I think we'll be running around like that being playing fireman for a while until we get some relief uh from uh Mother Nature, I guess. >> How's the new carts this fall?

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>> Yeah, that's uh that's really what you know, we're just kind of in the in the midst of a peak season and you know, people keep showing up, but it's [snorts] always a mystery to me and I kind of I'm always thinking about it and I'm thinking about members, new

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members, and members lost and who have passed or whatever and and uh you know, you think about things going on with the economy or you know, and blah blah blah, but anyway, it's still this is still seems to be rocking up here pretty good. We're going to have uh

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you know, some things that I haven't uh put the totals to yet, but I mean, our our clearly going to be different this coming year. Our fuel costs are going to be you know, probably twice what they were just because of the cost of fuel, so it's it's not like we're using more

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fuel, it's just the cost more. Um and things like that, but other than that, as far as the activity and uh things like that, the equipment's holding together good. Um yeah, so I think we just keep keep going. Hopefully, they

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keep coming through every day, and and uh uh just want >> [clears throat] >> if you want to number stuff is going to count. >> St. Paul, could you touch on the need for a tee time, or what what's you know, where are we at up there as far as being

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able to walk on versus tee times? Are we getting busy enough where starting to schedule people? >> Well, we we like tee times so people call and ask that we tell them we like you to make a tee time, and and what happens is especially when it's busy, uh I mean, we have this problem

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with members that's uh they just walk in expecting to jump on the course um without a tee time, and when it's crowded uh sometimes it doesn't work out. Um so, um and then people coming in just

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to avoid any conflicts with with members or whatever, you know, they we just they're going to have a better experience if they um uh if they they can walk in without one, and we'll we'll we'll we'll get them on if we can, and usually we can.

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But, yeah, we promote tee times. We just don't want to don't want to be run that that loosely because what's going to happen you end up with conflict. And so, it's pretty easy to everybody have tee times. >> I was delighted about one thing last weekend. I was out on the course, and

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there was a five some of young men in their 20s, all of whom said they were local, and all of whom said they were members, and that was just a delightful anecdote as far as I was concerned. >> Yeah, that's so that's another thing, too. We don't allow five sums to play.

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So, that was kind of weird. We try to keep that from happening because that can that [snorts] slows down play. There's no incentive about it, and it's not fair to people behind. So, we don't allow five sums out there if they uh they come out, we try to try to get them

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to break up into two groups. Sometimes it costs us an extra capacity problem because of the mathematics of that. But we you know, we tell them to keep the fastest players on the on the first group and

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otherwise, you know, if they if they get bunching up like that they're going to be slow and then people want to play through and and that's just not it just doesn't lead to the best experience. We shouldn't be having that on a nine-hole course. So

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Um there's times where we we do allow that sort of thing, but you have to play it by ear. Well, I'm you know, it's kind of a holiday weekend, you know, it's it's really tough. >> This was late in the day and I don't think they were holding anybody up. >> Yeah, well, like I said, you got to play

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those things by ear. Generally you know, if guys are making tee times, we don't take tee times for a group of five. >> Okay. Well, keep up the good work. >> Okay, thank you. >> One last question and that is

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where are we on marketing more to the folks in the city? >> Ah, that's a good question. I think um what's what our plan with that is that uh I've got a little more help than than I've had in the past. So I think

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this next week we're going to have a meeting because we've got, you know, enough people that are working helping me on the inside. And there's uh there's there's a lot of time when they can do miscellaneous things whether they're reloading tea bags or they're

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cleaning carts or they're washing rain holes. So there's different things they do. And I'm thinking that what what we want to do is is start getting our employees involved in uh in our marketing where we're taking pictures. Um everybody's posting

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something on uh social media. And uh that will I think that's really the the the ticket is just to have a continual um through [snorts] through with these new uh posts.

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And so I think that we can uh Eric is uh Eric, he's over in Europe now with his with his band traveling, but he's going to be back I think around the 20th, 19th or 20th. And so he'll be one more person who'll

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be able to do that, but so far I've got I got basically a couple of two, three other people working in the taking shifts in the clubhouse who used to be able to get uh to help with social media and posting like that on on Google and uh

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uh TikTok Facebook um Instagram. >> Well, I can see now that when Dave and I get out of the baseball and the senior league, we'll have to have a photograph to post. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. It'd be as simple as

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that, and main thing is just to uh have people keep posting. And uh and things kind of grow from there, but I think that that's really I don't really know of any other advertising methods that to people in

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the cities, but the people that work on these social media things, they there's little things that some of the people like Google that offer that it costs a little bit of money, but it's like a focused advertisement. And I'm sure we've all seen those with a

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busy weekend, you get something you're interested in pops up on your thing. So Google Google could can do that. We can do that um from time to time, too. They give you uh They give you data back on how many kids you got on there. You know, we we

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promote what they're doing there, so I think that would be something that we probably try to incorporate into that. >> Does anybody else have anything? Not for Paul, but we do have this special event. >> Well, I just wanted to give Paul the the opportunity to go away if he wanted

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to. Thank you. >> Thank you, Paul. >> All right, I'm >> Okay, the last item on the agenda, I think, is the pickup truck opera for August 15th. >> Yeah, you're a fan of this, aren't you, Steve? >> This is essentially the same as last

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year? >> Yep. >> And you recommend it? >> Yep. >> Is there anybody objecting to the pickup truck opera occupying the park at the uh sliding hill >> Uh Saturday, August 15th, from 12:00 to

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5:30 p.m. >> I hear no objections. The uh proposal was approved unanimously. I have one great regret. On the 15th, I'm marrying my grandchild and it is as intended, so I can't go

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this year. So, I'm going to have to look up some other dates and places. At any rate, I think we Is there anybody have any more old business? Anybody Okay, anything else for the good of the order?