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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: N4lhRMsTwvI):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Commences and Consent Agenda Approved via Roll Call
- 00:00:48: Hamilton Habitat Variance Request; Public Comments Begin
- 00:01:05: Public Comment: Byron Aldridge Supports the Variance
- 00:02:19: Public Comment: Neighbor's Questions Clarified by Anna Hamilton
- 00:03:39: Variance Details Clarified; Commission Questions Begin
- 00:04:59: Commissioner Kelly Questions Habitat Project; Noise Concerns
- 00:09:01: Commissioner Ben Questions Driveway Approach and Drainage
- 00:10:39: Commission Discussion; Vote on Variance Request
- 00:13:13: Meeting Adjourned; Post-Meeting Remarks and Casual Conversation


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I recognize you from the hardware store. >> Yeah, >> I'm sending a bunch of uh clothing out to the >> Okay, great. >> I will call this meeting of the Grand Ray Planning Commission to order.

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>> Um, we have our consent agenda here before us and we will call a vote for that. >> Motion to approve the consent agenda. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I will second. Thank you, Kelly. Motion in a second and we'll have to do a roll

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call vote because we have you at a distance there, Kelly. So, Kelly >> I, >> Ben, >> I >> myself also I All right. So, we are here uh for the Hamilton Habitat variance

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request. At this point, we'll have the public comments if there are any. I see we have public. So, are there any comments from the public >> about the merit's request? >> Just >> Yeah. If you would like to, you can come right up to this microphone here if you just state your name and let us know

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your thoughts. >> My name is Byron Aldridge. I'm a resident of Grand Marray for about four years now. I'm on the board of directors of the First Congregational UCCC church. >> Okay. You may know that our church is really at the forefront of community

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activities and supporting the community to do good things. And so it is our lot which butts up against the rear lot line of the lot that we sold to Hamilton Habitat. >> Mhm. >> And on the other side of the lot line is

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our playground which is used by children in the neighborhood and also Northwoods Childare. >> Okay. which is housed in our church also. So the reason not to grant a variance that I can imagine is that somebody is impacted in a negative way. And the

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truth is there's almost nobody in the playground except when the children are there which is not 247. So I hope you'll vote yes for it. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Would

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you also like to make a comment? >> I just had some idol curiosity questions which were satisfied out in the lobby. Thank you. >> All right, >> Anna. >> I'm She asked me a question. >> I had to answer.

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>> Oh, okay. Okay. Well, maybe we'll have you come forward, Miss Anna. >> Sorry. and we can have a an understanding of what those questions might and of course you can say your name for

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>> Anna Hamilton. I'm the project manager for Hamilton Habitat. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. And so what uh questions were were answered out in the hallway so we can have >> She wanted to know based on another neighbor whether it was going to look

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like a used car lot and I said no. Okay, >> I'll do my best. >> Okay. >> Um, yeah, it's her neighborhood and so she was just worried about what I was doing there and so I I told her. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And we met. She's my Facebook friend.

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I've never met her before. So that was awesome. >> Well, there we go. >> So, you're fur. No. >> There we go. It comes out in a meeting. All right. Well, great. Thank you for being here. Um, one thing I'm just going

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to say it out loud for all of us here now that we were going through the variance. I know I called you earlier to ask about the 7 1/2 ft 17 1/2 ft. Um, and just to clarify for everybody, the change is to 17 1/2 ft from 25 ft.

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So, it's a 7 and 1/2 variance from 25 ft. >> Yeah. >> So, it's that it's just a reduction of 7 and 1/2 ft or >> it is a reduction of 7 and 1/2 ft. Just wanted to get that out there. Um, did you want to say make a statement of any

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kind first or shall I have the commissioners have their shot? >> I have really nothing to add other than what I put in there. I'm sorry if I wasn't very clear. >> Oh, no, that's fine. >> With the measurements. I knew when we bought it that it was my house could be 16 1/2 ft wide based on the So, I knew

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what I was getting into. It's not like I'm, you know, >> I just thought, "What the heck?" You know, I might as well ask. Um, Especially when the rear line is what Byron said, which is the church property. I've already agreed to put a fence up back there, so we should be

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fairly separate. >> Mhm. >> Okay, great. >> All right. Um well, I know that um Kelly has some some questions for you. So, uh Commissioner Kelly, would you like to ask your questions?

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>> Hi, Hannah. >> Hello. >> Are you on vacation or what? Well, she's working. >> I'm on vacation. I'm on vacation this week, but I'm kind of working from the trailer. So,

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>> um I wondered with this house, I don't know if you have a potential person already who would be interested in buying or where you're headed. >> Oh, yeah. One of one of my concerns is with the daycare behind there and the playground which is used and while it's

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not used 24/7, it is used 5 days a week, you know, are they aware of that noise, the impact so that we're not back here 2 years from now where somebody's really upset that there's a daycare and noisy kids because as you know, I feel that

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daycare is also a huge priority in our community along with housing um because if you don't have daycare, people aren't moving to Grammar either or even, you know, we don't have much for young families. Daycare is a real struggle. So, I just had a question about that so

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that we aren't >> back here trying to reshape things again because somebody doesn't like where they ended up moving to. It's understandable. Um, >> I guess I can't control what happens in the future, but I know that my list is

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long. So, yes, I already have somebody designated for that house. He's a young gentleman in his early 30s. He has two children. So, they're kind of excited about the playground, too. Um >> Oh, good. >> And there's just noise with kids. That's all there is to it. And

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>> yeah, >> it'll be on both sides of the fence. That's, you know, we're going to have a fence up. >> I was there yesterday and and the playground really does >> is right up on that property line. So that's another kind of justification for

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the variance is it gets us a few feet away from that fence. So >> yeah, absolutely. Um and I don't Anna probably can't answer this, but I don't know if Mr. Aldrich could if we could based that he's there upon the church, but where is snow removal going to go

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when you have a fence there? >> Um I don't think it's going to be a problem. There's places where snow can go, unless we have one of those 20-y year events, in which case it's hard for everybody, >> which I've experienced since I've been here once, >> Kelly. What I noticed yesterday was that

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the new playground literally goes is right up to the property line. I mean, the swing set. I was looking at where the house would lay and the swing set will hit the house if if I mean, >> if so, I mean I mean they are really close

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there. There would be no way to even push snow back there anymore >> because of how they redid the playground. >> Can I say the swing set's not going to hit the house? >> Okay. >> I don't know. >> No, no, no. >> Well, I'm just saying >> it would hit the fence first and it is moving.

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>> There you go. Anyway, so >> yeah. Yeah. No, that and I, you know, obviously they just I'm not sure who did it, but money was spent last year, right, to redo that playground. I know bouches we're working there quite a way

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through the summer and doing so um hoping that it's not damaged and obviously it's it's a little different but just some things that as we plan and plot out and I I applaud the thought of the fence I think that's going to be really important right there um both for

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the the playground itself and the people who are going to live in that home I think we'll probably both appreciate that. So, um, those were kind of just my questions and my quick thoughts as I was looking through everything and and then got clarification because at first I

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thought it was just a 7 and 1/2t uh variance, not the >> instead of 25 and instead of 17 1/2 ft basically it will be. So, um, that makes a difference that that was more helpful.

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>> Those were my questions. >> All right. Uh, thanks Kelly. Thank you. >> Um, Ben, do you have any questions? >> I don't really have any questions. Uh, other than have you thought about a driveway or where how you're going to approach the house? >> Yeah. On 4th Avenue West, I think to the north.

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>> Um, there's a a drainage ditch in there. >> Yeah. >> I've had uh >> on that side. >> I've had u my ground guy over there and we were looking at that trying to figure out which where's the best spot. There's already there's an old covert in the front and then a ditch in between um

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Mungan's house and this lot. So, we're just going to define that a little more. >> Sure. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Cuz the neighbor to the north said her lot is wet all the time. >> Uhhuh. >> And I don't understand that, but we're going to make sure that isn't true of the this one.

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>> Okay. >> There will probably be a fair amount Sorry guys. There may be a fair amount of runoff, Anna, as you know, I'm just up the alley and everything in that neighborhood, and I don't know what's underneath yours, but my house is

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basically built on ledge rock. Literally, I have ledge rock underneath my dining room um that the basement covers over and there's a lot of water that moves through that area. O, and it's it's not just a little bit of ledge

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rock. My whole backyard is that. And I presume since there's ledge rock at the bottom of 4th Avenue on that street and a lot of it, you're also going to have those issues or that beneath you. >> Mhm.

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>> Okay. And and Ben, did you have something more? >> No. Okay. Okay. Great. Um well, we've been through this before and we do have our findings that we go through each time. Um, in this case, we can see that the house is located in the R1. It

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is a house in the R1. So, it makes a lot of sense that it should be there. The one of the one that's always difficult for at least for me when we're going through something like this is one of the findings is the plight of the

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landowner is due to circumstances unique to the property and not created by the land owner. So that's always a little tricky in cases like these. So um along those lines, I do have some questions. So the you knew what you were getting into when

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you when you got the property. >> Yep. >> And it and it wouldn't be as you said, it would it would look like a just a a single wide mobile home if you were just to build in that one spot. >> I get that. Um how many do you have an idea of how many square foot it is and

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how much it would have been? 24 by 32bedroom. >> All right. >> One bath. >> And And it would it be more square footage or less square footage than if you had done the 16 ft. >> Well, we could go longer. >> Okay. >> Um

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based on what I just saw yesterday. >> Mhm. >> With that drainage, I wouldn't want to go any longer cuz it >> Okay. >> I wouldn't want to even affect that drainage. you know, all we're going to do is maybe make that drainage deeper, make it a ditch.

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>> Um, >> somewhat unique to the property. >> Yeah. >> We jumped on that lot regardless of what size it was just because it was the only thing out there. >> Yeah, >> that's the truth of it. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. I was just curious about that piece. It's always one that kind of

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hangs hangs me up. Um All right. Um, I would, um, make a motion to approve the Hamilton habitat variance request. >> I'll second. >> That's a motion and a second. I'll do a

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roll call. Kelly, >> Ben, >> I >> myself I >> council next week. Yeah. See you there. Thank you very much. >> Seriously, >> thanks.

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>> See you. >> And our business has concluded. >> We've gotten to the end. >> Thanks, Kelly. >> Thanks, Kelly. Thanks, Kelly. Stay warm. Adorable. >> Stay cool. >> Thanks. I'm good. How are you?

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>> Jesus. Never grow old. So it's >> happened. >> Yeah, they were good. >> Hopefully we'll get some trees. >> I don't know that he was going to hurry back like you said. >> Um and kind of >> Are we done?

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>> We're done. >> I won't have to take too many trees up.