and you're live. >> Okay, great. Thank you. We'll bring this meeting of the planning and zoning commission of Grand Marray to order. We have our agenda before us. Any any comments or anything?
>> No. Motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Great. Thank you. >> So moved. >> All right. >> First and second. All those in favor? I >> I All right, motion passes. We have a
conditional use permit today for Michelle. And um do you guys have questions of your own right away? >> No, I think if there's anybody that wants to speak to it or if we've had any
>> comments, we didn't got we got to brush off our hearing process on the page one. I guess it's been a couple of months. Uh, we didn't receive any written comments. I did receive one phone call today from one of the neighbors. >> Okay. >> Um, I asked her to send an email, but I haven't received it yet.
>> Okay. >> She wasn't uh in favor of the request. >> Not in favor. Okay. Very good. Thank you. All right. Does anybody in the audience want to speak? Sir,
you could say your name. Yep. when you get up there. >> Hi, I'm Tom Supernot and with Lisa Haney. Uh we live directly across the street at 410 2nd Avenue West. >> Okay. >> We have a number of questions and
concerns regarding the proposed business at 411 2nd Avenue West. from the GM planning and zoning memo dated March 26, 2026. Quoted in the city of Grammar, a conditional use permit can be granted
only if all of the following apply. There's four items mentioned in that. I'm going to highlight two. Number two, the use is compatible with the existing neighborhood. We believe that any
business, not a nail salon, any business should not be in an R1 permanent residential district. No business fits into our neighborhood. Number four, the location and character of the proposed use is considered to be
consistent with the desirable pattern of development for the area. I don't believe that permanent R1 residential district is appropriate for any business under the Graham Ray comprehensive plan
goals and policies under residential areas. Number two states to protect property values. Having a business in an R1 permanent residential district will not protect our property value. It will do the
opposite and decrease our property value. Stated in the application and I quote, "Services will be limited to a small number of clients per week." What is a small number? 5, 10, 30, 50.
What guarantee will they have that this will remain small? Most businesses grow. As businesses grow, traffic increases and parking on street parking becomes an issue. Number two, as stated in the application, and I
quote, "The scale of the business will remain small and will not change the character of the neighborhood. The business will change the neighborhood. Second Avenue West is a narrow street. A business will increase street parking and increase traffic, which will
decrease our property values. We have already seen an increase on the street parking because we believe the business is already up and running. Also, I know this is outside of the scope of the planning and zoning
commission, but it is a concern. Does this business meet the requirements of the state of Minnesota? Does the business meet the requirements of Minnesota administration rule 21105.0360, 0360, which requires a license from the Minnesota Board of
Cosmetology Examiners, BCE. All technicians performing services must hold a valid Minnesota nail technician license. Does it comply with all physical requirements for nail salons as stated in admin rule 21105360?
A question to you guys. If this business is not licensed by the BCA and the state, would you, the GM Planning and Zoning Commission, approve the application? We've talked to some of our neighbors,
uh, Grace Flow, 4032nd Avenue West. Contact 2253970805. Val and Joe Mertz, 4072nd Avenue West, 218205405. that they also oppose the proposed business. In closing, we feel for the reason
stated, this does not meet the conditional use permit requirements of the city of Grammar Planning and Zoning R1 permanent resident district. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Anybody else?
Um, my name is Michelle Maldonado. I'm the uh nail technician. Uh, I would like to you guys to read this. >> Oh, thank you. >> First, >> this is the original copy. >> Um,
I have 16 years of experience doing nails. >> Um, I did stop for a while since I moved here. Then I have kids. Um, so obviously kids sometimes put past to your dreams.
Um, I moved to this town and fell in love with it and working the brewery. I work at the at the pharmacy as a pharmacy tech also. Um, I'm a medical biller and coder. But my dreams are in
doing nails. That's what I know to do since I was like 16 years old. And thank you so much. Um, so um I I thought that I had no opportunity
to grow in nails in this especially in this town because it's so small, but I did see a necessity. Let's say there's a lot of people that drive to Duluth or to Canada to get their nails done. And it's
a lot. Driving to Duth is a lot especially for groceries. Nails are another thing. Um about the concerns about traffic and parking and the amount of uh um
clients that I will have per day. Technically I am only one nail tech. There's no way I can have more than one person at a time. I have big driveway. Uh with currently at sometimes I park our car outside sometimes just because
there's a lot of snow accumulated in the side. So I don't have a lot of space right now. But there's like literally there's four cars that can fit there and I will never have four uh four clients at the same time. Only one because I'm only one. Um appointments cannot overlap
either because I have two hands. Um about noises, it's really quiet. It's like a home officebased business, you know, like talking client with me, doing the nails. That's it.
>> Uh, no loud music or anything. Um, it's going to be a low impact business. I will not have any signs showing up that there is a homebased studio there. Uh, especially because I have kids and I
don't want anyone knocking on my door. So that will be like private. That's uh my main idea is to keep my business private and only by appointment. Um I do not have any uh plans of expanding
because doing that will be playing against myself. Having expanding means having more nail text on my business will be having more nail texts which will be technically pay playing against me because if I'm the
only one I'll have more clients and then yeah my goal is to provide professional service maintaining you know the the the peace and what this town is known for which is peace and everyone is friendly.
Um, and that's my goal with everyone. Um, I don't know you guys have any questions. >> Yeah. Um, so is your does your license have any limit? >> My wife
>> does does the license limit you in any way in terms of the number of clients you can have or anything like that? >> No, it does not limit me. Um it does as soon let's say that I get approval then I can go ahead which I actually did went ahead and sent some paperwork to the
board of co cosmetology because they do require more lic licensing to approve not to approve but to open a business um will I will if I own it you know so with
this I can work but I cannot own a place officially and just have an open to public. So for me to have it open in a way that I can get clients, I have to apply for a for a license which is called the manager
uh salon manager license which I already applied and is supposed to be here in 5 days I think. Mhm. >> Um and after that I will get I have to apply to another license which is uh it will require I believe an inspection
from B of cosmetology. >> Okay. >> But I cannot apply for that one yet. First cuz I have to wait for the five days for my license to be here. Mhm. >> And second of all, cuz I don't have a space that they will see and they will approve cuz we are under con, not under
construction, but we're, you know, putting like the um insulating and putting the nice drywall and putting everything nice. >> Mhm. >> Cuz it's, you know, safety first, >> right? >> It has to be everything according to the safety standards and and that's what
we're doing. >> Okay. >> Before I can apply for that, then they will not have anything to go, you know, and look at it. Okay. Are there um any rules about I guess one thing I've heard of is like
fumes uh related to that. So that's a a good question also. Um I do not work with acrylic and monomers. Those are the ones that usually have strong smell and chemical. Mines are based on gel and they are professional grade uh nail gels
and um products. So they even though I'm not going to work with acrylic I will have uh ventilation proper ventilation plus I also will be summer hopefully it would let me to open a little bit the windows but still I will put the uh
ventilation that's part of the plan. Okay. >> Just in case I want to do a deep cleaning and I want to, >> you know, >> so the ventilation the ventilation will be it it kind of sounds like you're building a separate space and the ventilation will be for that room or in that room.
>> It'll be in that room. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> Thank you. Uh commissioners, um are you taking clients now? >> What >> are you working now? Are you are you taking clients now for nails? Not not in
not in my house. >> Not in the property. >> Not in the property. I've been having visit, but it's because my kid, we believe that he has autism and he's getting um evaluations
to see if he actually has it or not. >> So far, we heard that he needs uh some extra help to grow as a normal person. Okay, >> I don't know if I have questions necessarily.
Um, what I guess what do you what would you expect? So, if you were the only person that would be doing the service, what is your expectation of like I mean I imagine it would change daily, right? Some days you might have a slow day and some days you might have a busy day. But
what does that like? What would a busy day be? >> Yeah. busy day. Three clients a day. I think >> three >> because yeah, my services are not like quick services like if you go to a normal salon in Dulo, they work for time
and they like to, you know, do the nails and let's go leave, pay and leave. In my case, I do uh have an idea of providing like luxury type of services. It will require time for me to do a proper safe
manicure which it require time. Um if you want I'm sorry that I didn't br that but the type of manicure that I do it doesn't require water which mean is a Russian dry manicure. Same with pedicure
it will be dry pedicure will not require any type of water. Um, with that said, I will have to use some implements that I have to work in the cuticle area, which means if I don't work slow enough to, you know, with care, I can hurt the
client. There's no way I can do quick things and have 20 clients a day. That's not possible. Not even five sounds possible. So I think the the busiest
three clients the lower zero or one. So >> and what um sorry go ahead. I was just wondering about like time of day is >> that I will work. >> Yeah. It's probably just like 8 to 3, 8
to 5 a.m., maybe 7 a.m. I'm not sure since it's not like I have kids, too. There's not uh options for me to work after hours. Okay. >> So, and you feel like a a maximum
number in a day. Did you say five? No, I will say four. Honestly, it's just like every client will take me around three hours. That's the the less time it will take me. >> Mhm.
>> So, three I will say is the real a normal day. >> Okay. >> And as I said, they their appointments cannot even overlap and you know they can park on my driveway totally. I have
plenty of space of my driveway. Okay. Yeah, the off streetet parking would be really important to have. So, if you've got it, you'll need to have that set aside for your >> What? I'm sorry. You'll have to have the
any off- streetet parking you have Yeah. will need to be set aside if those were approved. >> Yeah. Yeah. Commissioners, any thoughts? Ben? >> Um, I I do I do have some thoughts. Um,
>> yeah, >> it's really hard um to balance the need to preserve R1 zoning for residential exclusive use when the
neighborhood and neighbors want to like like they're they're asking for some protections >> for that and and so that it it does weigh on me. It's It's not that I'm averse to having people use their
property in a way that supplements income and and and allows them to, you know, to thrive because I I do want that. But, um I I do think that we have an obligation to listen to the
neighborhood because they do know best what their neighborhood needs and doesn't need. And that's a little different than what we have approved these types of uses in the past in residential, but I don't I don't recall a time where
we had any any conflict about it. >> Yeah. I'm trying to remember one. >> Um >> and and and it's maybe it's moved or maybe it isn't, but um I do have concerns about about that.
>> Um this neighborhood and I did drive by today and I I inspect and looked around. Maybe you guys did too. And and >> it it it doesn't have any other businesses in the in the area. It's this is this is truly like this is the the
definition of R1 zoning >> to my knowledge. Maybe there's some other businesses that are operating in the area that I don't know about. >> Mike, maybe you know or don't know. I don't >> I don't know of anywhere operating. >> Yeah. >> There. >> Yeah. >> So, if if if if there was an opportunity
to to preserve that type of RO1 that this would this would be that that opportunity. And I'm inclined to to want to do that to preserve >> I I mean I think the hard part that I have with I mean I agree with a lot of
what you're saying but I also think that like that's a hard part of um yeah I don't know. I mean like do we we probably have the same conditional use permits for people that operate whether
it's daycarees or it's hair salons or it's those types of things, right? I mean those are all under the same type of thing. homebased business conditional use permits. And I don't know if maybe maybe I mean if I think about where some of those
locations are, I don't feel like there's all of a sudden a like the the neighborhood becomes one that's like rampant with like, oh, okay, so this is the hair salon and nail section of the community, right? I mean, it's like they're
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean I I so so like how do you if the standard is the standard I guess that's my thing like I totally understand and appreciate what Tom spoke of and what sounds like some of the neighbors speak of but >> you know so if if you know Michelle's
place was one block over like would it like would the standard be different and that that to me it also doesn't seem fair I guess in in a sense because if if it would work there Because I mean I Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if that is that makes does it
make sense at all what I'm saying? Like it seems like it's a geographical situation, not even a zoning situation. >> Maybe maybe maybe not. You know, like there's there there may be other systems at play. There may be things that, you know, maybe the relationship isn't there. Maybe the yard isn't kept up or
maybe there's already some underlying issues, you know, that that might that that that might bias a neighbor to say, "Hey, I I don't I don't feel confident that my property value is being protected." Now, how how can I
Yeah, >> right. How can like how is that going to improve? >> I have a question. And um how obviously I'm new into all of this and how does a conditional use permit
work is something that you can revoke to someone. it doesn't if it doesn't comply with your you know like what you say you know >> so the conditional use permit um well the name implies uh if we were to approve it there would probably be
conditions and yes if you did not comply with those then it would be revoked yes >> okay >> and it does go to the person not to property so if you were to sell the property >> and you happen to have a spot you know we approve this with conditions and then
you sell it to somebody who also happens to do nails like >> they would have to come in. >> But the city doesn't have the ability to do an interim use permit, right? Which is maybe what I'm not sure what the underlying premise of your question was. Like >> I just wanted to know >> go in and say all of a sudden, no, you
can't you can't do this anymore. >> No, my question is like in a way >> I mean that that's the idea behind it. If they don't meet the conditions, we could revoke the permit. I think the trickier part is how would we know and
what mechanism would we need to use to verify and there's a lot of we don't we're not a big city right we don't have staff whose job it is to look for and enforce this type of thing so to to put that in place thinking well we'll just
deal with it if it becomes a problem we may not be able to very easily >> and it may not be fair if if if the neighborhood doesn't isn't on board with the process to begin with. I mean, then we're turning it into a neighborhood watch. >> Certainly wouldn't want to do that.
>> And it's not that's not a good outcome, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Can we take you had a question or do you have >> Do you want to make >> Oh, is do you have more questions for Michelle? >> I I don't know. I'm just talking to you
guys. I'm trying to figure out. We're now in discussions, but we can take another comment. Did you have a comment there? >> Thanks, Michelle. >> Thanks, Michelle. >> Hi, my name is Greg Pierce. I live at 409 Second Avenue West, just directly to
the south of of Michelle and uh her planned or or the conditional use permit, I guess, that's in question. And I'm uh first off, want to say I'm very grateful for a forum like this. um because it uh it helps to answer a lot
of questions and then sometimes raises more questions and then which leads to solutions and understandings and uh you know as if we don't ask those questions we don't know and I think I've learned some things even just here tonight you know
just listening to uh the neighbors speak to Michelle speak herself um I have been working or talking with her about her potential use of that garage space. I'm in the construction field. I've been doing it for 40 years myself and helping
them to understand, you know, how that space might fit and what might work together and uh you know, she's had questions about ventilation and things like that and helping her to walk through those. Um I myself am very much in favor of
them uh working towards and getting that conditional use permit. And I think the great questions that have been raised about, you know, off- streetet parking and things like that, they're very valid. Um, and I think they have the accommodations on their property to allow for that that that parking. Now,
it would be nice if there was a way um but as you had alluded to to you know put that condition in there if there are more than you know x number of vehicles or if a vehicle parks again hard to monitor because if somebody was you know not in favor of it
then if you had somebody come over for just another separate get together how do you know that that's a client or not a client I would hope that the good questions that have been asked um would alleviate some of that like as to the number of clients that she could handle
or you know do in a day, there wouldn't be people stacked up um that I could see coming of it and you know learning that here tonight um from her explanations as far as what she does and and I think that helps you know not that I had that
concern anyway um but but I see that and I respect um fellow neighbors and their concerns for that and I think this would be wouldn't uh increase in that. Um I did speak to the neighbors directly on the
north side and Tom and Julie Nelson um >> over the weekend and they were in favor of the project as well. So um just to show that there is some support there. I know that you know we pride I think ourselves in
Grand Marray being a very diverse community. Um and it takes a lot to live up here. Um, and to have a diversity of income sources is important and businesses and we don't have some of those, you know, whether or not you call
it a luxury item, but a lot of those services are hard to get, hard to find here. And I think this helps provide that and it helps a young mother um to help provide for her family by being able to, you know, step out of her home
into her garage, which would be her new space for her nail salon, be able to work with clients for a few hours and come back without having to go and try to rent a retail space somewhere, you know, and be able to bring that income into the family. So, I think that's
that's great. Um, we do have a lot of traffic in the area. We do live, you know, while there's truly not businesses there. I think, you know, the traffic that comes from the school and the YMCA, it's very welcome. Um, and from the church and the
community center, those are beautiful things. And um, and I think it that the thoroughares and uh, you know, the things that control traffic there seem to work very well in in there. And I think uh three four clients a day,
three, four cars a day won't put a burden on the system and and you know cause it to be negative. But just my thoughts, my feelings and I appreciate you considering this action. >> Great. >> Appreciate taking the time. >> Yep.
>> Thank you. >> Can I ask a question of Tom? Is that all right? I mean, just like I mean, I don't know if you've had conversations about what the plan was. Did you know like the number and I guess
hearing what Michelle had said if like not that maybe you're like, "Yeah, now I'm for it." Right? Because I assume you would have said like, "Actually, I'm for it now." But like does that any of the stuff the points that you brought up? I'm just wondering because we do care about what the neighbors say, you and
the ones that you had listed off, but does that like in your sense if you have a better understanding of how the space will be used or the conditions that would be in place with off- streetet parking, which was one of your issues, >> the I mean, and I don't want to put you on the spot, Tom, but I mean, again, I
also I'm going to their response to on street parking is their driveway has three to four cars in And when a client drives up, they're not going to pull into the driveway. They're going to park on the street. >> Sure. >> I've noticed increased
traffic. I've seen advertisements on Facebook for her services. Uh I, you know, I I can't say that the business is running, but I see single women going into the house and coming back out. So
anyway, but anyway, I I it's not their business. I'm against any business in the residential R1 zone. >> Okay? >> It's you want a business across the street from your house. The state of Minnesota
requires that there should be a sign on the front of the business. The state of Minnesota requires running water, hot and cold. State of Minnesota cosmetology requires um a lot of things in there inspected by the state and another thing
just uh there's nothing you know it has to be a separate separate entrance you have to have a restroom the restroom even if it's not in they have to have a restroom that has access into the house but it has to be separate from the house itself you look at the board of
cosmetology look at the requirements for Minnesota. I just want to make sure all of those items are checked off. >> Those Thank you for your u concern about it. Um it does require a restroom which obviously in my in my house I do have
two restrooms. One on the first uh you call that level and then one in the basement. Um for water it does require hot and cold water. I do have all that things. Um I can obviously at the moment I don't have it.
>> Can I interrupt for just just a second because I just want to like in in general and I appreciate the concerns and I I appreciate the feedback and >> as a general rule in in city of Grammar we we don't take into account state
licensing. >> We don't have a mechanism by which we can track it. We don't have an enforcement mechanism like like just >> I understand the concern. I I validate the concern like some of it safety related. We certainly want to make sure
that that but we don't have the authority to to to even get in that conversation. >> Nor does it sound like it's really going to address your major concern because you don't want businesses in residential neighborhoods. It doesn't matter whether she meets license requirements or not. >> Yeah. Right. Right. >> Yeah.
It's not a grid. >> Okay. >> And it's not that any business in R1. Why do we have the R1 residential? >> Because it's an or whatever. It's just any business. >> Yeah. Gotcha. >> Gotcha.
>> Okay. >> I understand it. I I understand you fully. >> Yep. Thanks. Um Yeah. Yeah, I mean I I think where um I am having some challenges is because we have said yes in other
circumstances that were only different because of where they were and because of supportive neighbors and that kind of thing. So, it makes it harder to say like, "Oh, in this case, we're not going to say yes." Because, you know, and I I I don't disagree, and
it is. I'm just saying it's hard because it's not clear like, "All right." Um, you know, and I hear what you're saying, Mike, about how do we enforce our conditional use permits? But that's kind of on us. >> We haven't stopped ourselves from
conditions on, you know, like we do put on conditions. I would just say that that if the strategy is we're not sure about this, but we'll put some conditions on it just in case, it's not a good strategy. If if you're sure about it, but you want to make sure that this
is what they're going to do, and we just expect that they're going to and everybody feels good moving forward, that makes more sense. That's usually how we've used conditions is, yep, they've got parking. We know it's set aside for their business. We expect it's going to be that way as long as the business is operating. No one's walking out of here worried about it or or
concerned. then then they're good. Uh hours of operation kind of the same way. You know, they say, "Well, we're going to be open till 5 and it's reasonable and we don't doubt it and there's, you know, then we're not going to go check every Tuesday and make sure they're not open after 5." If we think we need to do
that, we probably just should say no rather than put a condition on it. >> Sure. >> I you know, and and I I understand what you're saying and yes, yes, it's been allowed. Yes, we have allowed business and residential use, right? Um, and back to my original was I don't recall a time
that we that we did that knowing that there was a a vocal group in the immediate area that was opposed to it. Mhm. >> I don't recall us us, >> you know, in in fact, I remember several
times where we did defer to the neighborhood to to kind of adopt and accept what was happening inside of neighborhoods. We've made many concessions over the years to to keep those the vitality in the community and
those neighborhoods intact. And um and that's where so that's the that's the differentiator for me for me personally is yeah >> like we have >> we have people that that that have lived
there want to continue living there don't want the business >> that's >> it's not a casual comment when when when Tom says would you want one across the street I I don't know the answer to that
right I I I can't I do have one across the street from Broadway, right? That has and and it's it works out and I was I was okay with it, right? Had I not been okay with it, >> right? >> Had it been a negative impact to me,
>> I would like to know that I had some support, >> right? I guess in this case though, we can see that's not all No, it's a split >> to some degree and like we don't we don't have numbers. We can't say well this this this and this and we didn't
take a vote >> but it does seem like there is pro and con. >> So um as a matter of formality regardless of what this board decides it does go to the city council right so we
only make recommendations we don't set policy >> right >> so if it's approved or denied it still gives you an opportunity to present your case and disagreement to the city council meeting. So, just as an FYI. >> Yeah.
>> I don't know whether the city council will be taking people's cases presented at the meeting that's typically done here and not there. But I mean, I guess it's up to you guys if that's what the city council >> Well, I just would imagine if it was that it was contested enough that that would be >> Yeah.
>> And we've definitely seen >> a few times where Yeah. >> it starts here, goes there, and further discussion happens. Yeah. Um >> well, I'm going to put a motion to um not recommend
the conditional use permit for Miss Mendes. >> Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second? All right, do not have a second. I've rarely had this happen. Uh, it
fails. Ask for another motion. >> I Any other motion? >> Well, I was expect I mean I guess I was expecting you to you listening to your conversation, I was expecting you to second his motion. >> No case.
>> No, I No. No. Um, I guess I'm thinking that I feel like we we've said yes other times, other places. I guess that's not this one. Um, and
and I don't know. I mean, I I I feel like when we look around town and think about the inhome businesses that are happening, I feel like this falls in line with that. And I feel like this is
how people have made it here. They've put up an ADU and rented it out and made that happen along with doing whatever else they were doing. And we've all had millions of jobs to try and make it work. And and I do feel like we can put on
conditions and I don't feel as negative about it. like I'm I feel like no this from what I'm hearing it sounds pretty um clear to me that that well the conditions that I was thinking about like you know time of day and off streetet parking that kind of thing that
seems like things that we can limit and know something about like we can see the driveway we can see where they can park and we can have some idea of when people are coming and going not 100% because it's only one but to my mind I feel like there is
room to approve. So I would I would make a motion to approve >> with conditions >> with conditions. >> You want to list those conditions? >> I do. >> All right. >> All right. And those conditions that I would propose, and I'm open to others, is the off- streetet parking be
available. Um meaning that if you've got room in that driveway, it should should be clear for for people to park. Um and that there is a limit of I think you said three o'clock which I feel like is a fair time to be done by
um and those were the two I was thinking about as conditions any but that would be my motion and my condition >> number of clients at a time as a condition. >> Okay. So, one at a time, it seems like
we could limit that. >> Yeah, I would uh the only thing I guess I would say to that is that um the not if there's available off- streetet parking, but you make it sounds like if there is a possibility for
>> Oh, yeah. No, I meant like you you must I meant it as a must. So, not like you must have. I mean, I have off street parking in my house, too, but I also have a kid with a car and a couple work. You know what I mean? It's like there's no >> or off street parking in my somebody pulls up, they have to park on the >> Well, that's always a kind of a goofy
you like and I I understand the need to to to put that in the language. But, you know, if taking a car out of the driveway, putting on the street so that there's room for somebody else to park in the driveway is like >> I don't know the situation. We we do have space for at least four cars and
you know right now during the day there's always two cars. My wife is always working almost 12 16 hours a day. Um so there's always realistically if there's two cars there's always space or
two. It's just there is a bank of snow that we are not you know >> right >> for the drift of snow there >> I think I think what would >> that cannot be fixed you know >> okay so I think what I would ask for is
a is a delineated space >> dedicated >> that's a dedicated space for anybody who would be there >> with those conditions are second. >> Okay. Motion and second. All those in favor I
>> I >> no on the condition that I I don't I don't believe that it's compatible use with the existing neighborhood. >> Okay. Motion does not pass. >> No, >> it will pass. >> It passes >> even though we're three.
>> You are the only three members of this board. Two votes is a >> is considered the quorum >> is is of the majority. >> Okay. >> Yeah. You guys can talk about it at city council. >> Yeah. >> All right. Well, this will move on to the city council and that'll be
>> next Wednesday. Next Wednesday. >> 6:30 in this room. Okay. Thank you. >> Thanks, guys. >> And I'll be here at 6:30. >> Thanks all you guys for coming. Yep. >> Thanks for talking down.