To the flag of the United States of America for it stands one nation under God indivisible and a motion to approve the agenda. >> Second, Mr. Chair. >> Motion and second. All in favor signify
by saying I >> I opposed. the board meeting minutes from the I guess I didn't represent that that we know well I don't
we're hear enough to the to pass them I would say there is a few missing people in the crowd like I don't see Scott Keever >> that was for the work session >> yes
>> so it really doesn't matter Oh, good. >> I tried to capture everybody that was here for the official board meeting. So, if I did miss somebody, please let me know. But I >> that's the video. >> Great. I will approve the meeting the
minutes of the next meeting. >> Uh, Commissioner Ken Johnson. >> Sure. >> Would you like to come forward again in case there's questions there? >> Yeah. Sure.
This is a followup obviously to the table every request to this agenda states. Um, I would like to draw our attention, excuse me,
to um, one of the motions and the votes we had. Mr. Standish asked us if what he presented us satisfied a budget. Um,
and I believe we related it or compared it to the statute in question. Um, I thought about that because I voted for it. Um, in the absence of ever going through
this process for the H and for what Jim presented many pages, I don't know if there would have been any other probably answer to his question, does this satisfy
the requirements of the statute for a budget that um my feeling was since we haven't have a policy and we've never done this before to say no and to ask
H or Jim to come with more data I don't think would have been fruitful in by any means. However, um I think if we take a look and study what was presented,
it uh depicts a historical snapshot of the HR some like a balance. And so a historical snapshot from a financial
standpoint really doesn't say satisfy but probably doesn't rise to the level of a budget. However, at our December 3rd meeting, Mr. Standish did present which we have the
research from the data request from the taxpayer which I think somewhat closely resembles a budget even if he says H does not maintain a budget they have a budget for each of the projects
and this was talked about at our last meeting I think it's fairly important that of the seven items the reason for the 2025 levy increase to $200,000 items 4 through 7 and I'm going to
repeat them because they were talked about at the last meeting and I think it's important that it says number four remodeling the H current office furniture and miscellaneous expenses associated with the remodel of the new office maintaining their new office
utilities grounds maintenance new storage space $100,000 My position was at the last meeting that the levy was increased to $200,000. And based on that answer to the data request, Mr. Standish to me demonstrated
the reason to raise it to $200,000 was items 4 through 7 which have been completed. And for that reason, I think the $100,000 is a fair amount, even if that's more than it has been
historically. And with that, I'll guess I'll turn it back to you, Mr. Chair. Well, just to be clear, we were 200,000 last year. Is this year >> and and this year, too?
>> No, just just 2025. Is that okay? >> Right. Yeah. which is approved. >> Correct. >> And Mr. Chair, if I can chat a little bit here, there was a motion by Dwight N and I and carried clarifying the H
budget information provided was sufficient for the necessary review and we did vote for it. But the discussion was to establish a policy requiring any entity organization to show up which statute shows and I got a copy of the statute that we would have
to have requested that before August 1st from you. So in my opinion we're probably you know we're past the statutory time frame for the the request but you still you were front and center with it and and showed
just exactly what was going on. You got anything else? >> So, let me ask you, are you you referenced the motion? Back to that discussion. Are you referenced the motion when it was stated that that included the $200,000 or just
that there was a motion? There was a motion made by Dwight and I carried to clarify the H budget information provided was sufficient for the necessary review and we plugged it in in September for a preliminary.
So to review that back I have to believe that we've we've looked over the information and it was thorough enough that decision the case for 26. So back to my question, are you stating
that your motion and second included the number of 200? >> I didn't have the number. that was sufficient for the necessary review and being that we've added into the preliminary the 200,000
and there wasn't and and we're we've done that already and we would have had to have requested that information before August 1st if we were going to critique in my opinion moving forward if we were going to change things or critique it or you
know give it give it a little different direction or anything like that. So that should have been before the preliminary. >> Well, based on my conversation with Justin Anderson, it says that the county has the final say on the levy based on on the information that HR presented. I
don't believe the lack of policy and the lack of an August 1st date trumps the statute that says we have to say based on the budget. >> Mr. Chair, go ahead. >> So
the last meeting there was some why are we following statute? Well, it's the law. We've taken an oath to follow the law. I mean, Dwight, what do you think of that? I mean, we you've taken that oath way more than any of us, right?
>> What if I mean, that's we got to uphold the law. >> Yes. August 1, we should have had a request in for a budget. After I reviewed what was presented, I went and talked to Mr. Standish, and whether I agree with the $200,000 or not is not
really the point. Our conversation led me to believe that there are there will be expenses in the amount of $200,000 that our levy I don't know if I want to say eligible but I mean if between
salary insurance um replacement of utility ovens refrigerators I have nothing to say that that amount is incorrect. We talked about having a budget layout
that to me would be easier to go through and that's something we'll have to do for next year. So I don't especially with that August 1 first date. We should have asked for all this. This should have been done way before December. >> I agree. I make a motion that we levy
$100,000 for the H. We got a motion. We get a second. We get a second. We get a second. I'll second us. So, if there's any more discussion, we'll discuss it. Otherwise, we'll vote. I'd like to add in reference to uh
their uh financial statement for December 31st, 2024 that they do have unrestricted cash and investments of 1,365,000. Like I stated at the last meeting,
the HH has a lot of money. I don't think anywhere it's been demonstrated. And I guess what I'd like to have if Troy Johnson heard something from Mr. Stish that compares with the seven items where
he specifically asked for the extra $100,000 for new storage that is completed. Then I'd like to hear from Mr. Stish where those $500,000 extras are >> or from you, Mr. Johnson. Well, I believe I mentioned it that they
have not been replacing. They had kept their budget low and they need to replace ovens, refrigerators, that is going to be furnaces. I mean, all of that stuff you add up into all of those units, it adds up really quick.
That was from sitting down and having a conversation on it, >> Mr. Chair. Go ahead. >> Okay. Where are we at here? Do Do we have a second? Yeah, we're doing discussion. Okay. So, it's discussion. Okay. Can I say something? >> Yeah. Okay. So, I think I think uh you
know today's weather is the prime example of uh H. They're they're they're kicking out money for snow removal this year. And I I know a little bit about that because I work for the guy that does the plowing in in Ashb and it's it's going to be substantial. There's
these buildings. I'm in them. They need things done to them if they fall into that category where HRE can repair them. There's expenses. So, what I'm thinking
like Troy is that next year we're going to be working on this way earlier. But for this year, I uh I'm I'm going to I'm going to go for the 200,000.
There's a lot of expenses here and a lot of things have happened with HR in the last two, three years here that are, you know, we're getting there. We're getting there with the getting situated and stuff, but there there's been a lot of expenses. So,
that's where I'm at, >> Mr. Chair. Go ahead. >> I'd like to draw attention to page one and two of what Mr. handed out, which is the public housing budget. And if you look under the page two of 2026
under extraordinary maintenance, he's got $40,000, which is $2,000 more than the prior year. Under equipment replace, he's got $20,000, which is $12,000 more
than last year and the same as the year before. We've got equipment additions of $5,000. You've got betterments and additions, $10,000 and capital improvements, which is probably the Northstar manner of 312.
He has in his budget unstated on page two items that are very similar to the historical data he presented, Troy, that's not accurate. It's right here. The chair, go ahead. Can I answer that?
Yep. Um, your reference to this page number two in public housing, the levy money has nothing to do with this. We do not put any county levy money into this project. This is a
federal project. It's public housing as a standalone. And the earlier comment that we have a lot of money, most of that money that you're referring to is public housing money and that's restricted and dedicated only to public housing. What
we're asking for is county levy funds to replace equipment maintenance for the non federal projects. As an example, Marshu
apartments in Ashby, Ky Square and Ela Lake, Morningside and Hoffman and Ashby number one in Ashby levy funds do not go into the federal programs as you're as you're referring to on page number two.
>> Good. Mr. Chair, I draw you to page 13 under public housing >> unrestricted $632,334 unrestricted. Now you said restricted. Now I guess the question is and I can go across the line which we did last meeting Jim every line item except
market rate of rentals and you answered that. The point is if you go across you have a million63,000 in unrestricted money in your audit. So when you say it's restricted, why has your audit put it unrestricted?
Not to get confusing, it's it's unrestricted within the public housing project. It is does not mean when it says unrestricted it does not mean we can use those funds for other projects.
>> So then why is there a restricted line? >> Because there's certain items that we have to spend it on within that project which means it's restricted. >> So the definition of a restricted unrestricted changes based on your >> with within the confines of its own
project. Yes, it can. >> It by by by regulation, let's let's state public housing. By regulation of the federal government of HUD, some funds, yes, are restricted for certain
purposes within public housing. There are certain funds that are unrestricted that the HR can use within that public housing project that are not restricted by the by the restrictions
and regulations of public housing. But irregardless restricted or unrestricted, it has to stay within public housing. And again, the levy funds we're asking for cannot and will not be used as
public housing. Mr. Chair, I'll go back to my statement that the reason he the AH asked for $200,000 was specifically stated in items four through 7 which was part of our December
3rd meeting and $100,000 was for new storage space. the historical information and it can be spun any way you want. But if you look at the audit, if you look at what's presented, the historical information does not
support that extra 100. The 100 was for specific items in the new office. You can't spin history. Anyway, you got anything else? >> I do, Mr. Chair. I've got a copy of the
the revisor that actually that I've got office that states this is and it's highlighted here and I'm going to submit this and then Tina can rifle it out to all of us. the the authority each year formulate and file a budget in
accordance with the budget procedure of the city in the same manner as required of executive departments of cities or if no budget are required to be filed by August 1st. The amount of tax levy for the following year shall be based on
that budget. So moving forward I'm going to I'm going to submit this and you guys can get a copy of this. You got all good points first. So, this should have been come up and we should have been ahead of it and it's our fault as a county board in my
opinion that we shouldn't have looked into that. We should have looked into this to the degree. So, we made sure you guys were here in the time frame that you needed to be here. So, we're past that time frame. We've set the preliminary. We need to move on. >> So, Mr. Johnson ter commissioner, would
you restate your comment about following the law? >> Which part? >> Well, you said we have statute and we haven't followed the law. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't think Bill's comment from
statute. >> What do you mean comment? He was reading the statute, I believe. >> Yes. He was referencing that this is is a music point and it's not an issue because we don't have a policy in >> No, this this is statute. >> Yeah, we should have we're going to
require a budget the way I read it and I'm not a lawyer. We needed to request that budget by August 1st. >> That's correct. And have a policy in place to do that. >> The lack of policy does not trump the statute. >> Right.
We should have asked for the budget by August 1st and we didn't. So he is under no obligation in my opinion to provide a budget. >> Like I say, >> historically we did not know better. So we were not doing better. Now that we know of this statute, we need to follow it.
>> The county has final say on the levy based upon the information the a presented. >> I don't disagree. And like I said, I went and talked to Mr. standish between the last meeting and today and during our conversation whether I like the
$200,000 amount or not to me that amount is can be justified >> call for the question Mr. Chair if you would. >> Okay, we'll do a roll call vote. Bill me. Can we have the the motion read
back to us so we know exactly what they'll get? >> A motion was made by Ken Johnson seconded by Doyle Spear to levy $100,000 for H for 2026. >> Got that?
>> Hey, Bill. >> No. Yes. Dwight. No. No. No. >> Well, what was your vote? >> No. vote.
>> Roll call vote. Bill Valley, no. And Johnson, yes. Dwight, no. Troy Johnson, no. The Spear, no. >> Motion BS. >> Mr. Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion that we levy $200,000 for each charity.
>> Second motion and a second. Any more discussion? All in favor of the motion signal by saying I >> I oppose. >> I thank you. >> But you'll be ready next year, I would
presume, right? because you'll be still up there. So my my understanding in this conversation and the conversation with Troy that next excuse me next year not only just the H but there's a plan a potential
plan to have a protocol procedure for all departments to prepare the budget is that I >> I would very much like to have a procedure in place that anyone who requests money that goes onto the levy Whether it's Humane Society, restore
local society, HR, everybody follows the same process. We can lay out a budget template so that the information we're looking for is right there nice and easy. >> We can just standardize everything. Makes everybody's life easier. >> And I'm in total agreement with that.
>> And I and I'll reference a comment Mr. Johnson said at a prior meeting. We had policy that relates to the appointment of board members for H and we never followed it. So it will be the same. Let's look back
on who voted to follow our policy and who didn't. >> Sure. Will it be the same? You voted to bypass the policy. Don't ask me that question. I voted for it. >> Do you have an answer for that? No. Okay, we'll move on.
uh close session for negotiations. I'll make a motion to close the session per whatever the statute actually reads. Minnesota state 3D.03 subdivision is in one B. >> I'll second it. Mr. Chair,
>> a motion and second. All in favor signify by saying I both hear You didn't buy in some trees, too. >> So, why? >> I didn't hear that. >> You didn't need to
start your campaign for years. I cannot wait. because I was on the phone talking. Yeah. >> Yeah. When I wish I'd known that this was >> I will make a motion to open back up.
>> Second. >> Motion second to open back up. All in favor? I >> both cared. >> All right. So, I am here to get um the team's agreement, the TEA items uh
agreed upon and the contract agreed upon contingent on the review. So, I'm going to go over all of the agreed upon items between uh the negotiation and the UN. So, the first one is insurance. The employer contribution would be single
$950 a month, family 2,000 a month. HSA would remain the same. Single at $50 a month, family at$125. Employers employees hired before January 1, 2024 who have coverage with proof of other group insurance shall receive cash and low at $850 a month even if employee
makes an insurance change. Employees hired after January 1, 2024 will not be eligible to receive cash and move. rate of pay for the implementation of wages adding 3% to the employees 1231 2025 rate of pay using that wage to place them on the new scale in the
closest step of their assigned grade. The duration would be a three-year contract. So 27 would be 3 and 12% 28 would be the 3 and a half%. Health insurance language would be added to the contract with an opout language adding to give the group the ability to
join the team's insurance after discussing with the county prior to discuss and clear contributions and cash. Working out of class adding language to the contract that outlines a discussion that must happen between the union and the county. If an employee is working
out of class for a period of time, compensation will be discussed. The work week. If an employee is required to work over eight hours, they would acrew overtime. Uh uniform allowance, we would allow $125 annually for a uniform allowance.
Um they would purchase two times a year, the fall and the spring, and there would have to be a um system in place to track that. Minnesota paid leave would be a 50/50 split um and allowing top off. And then cleanup items would be life
insurance and long-term disability amounts. getting those updated in the contract the correct amounts and then adding or including the 2026 2027 and 2028 HDLs in the contract. >> I'll make a motion to approve that.
>> That was Teamsters. This is Teamsters. >> Have a motion. We get a second. >> I'll second it, Mr. Chair. >> Okay. Motion to second. Any more discussion? I would just like to say I'm going to vulnerable because of the overtime calculation. The rest of it I'm
supportive of. >> All in favor of the motion say no by saying I >> oppos. >> I carried. >> All right. Next the highway group. I will go through the items. Insurance employer contribution
single will be $950 a month. Family would be $2,000 a month. HSA remains the same. The employer contribution single is $50 a month. Family is $125 a month. Employees hired before January 1, 2024 who wave coverage with pro proof of other group insurance shall receive cash
inl $850 a month even if employee makes an insurance change. Employers employees hired after January 1, 2024. It will not be received cash in L. Rate of pay. The implementation of wages would be adding 3% to the employees 1231 2025 rate of pay using
that wage to place them on the new wage scale on the closest step of their assigned grade. Duration of the contract would be a three-year contract. 27 2027 would be a 3 and a half% increase and 2028 would be a three and a half% increase. uniform allowance allow $400
an annual uniform allowance of $400 which does not include steel f boots and there would be a system in place to track that amount um throughout the year for purchases Minnesota paid league would be a 50/50 split with the allowance of topup some
housekeeping items would be comp time developing its own article um to make it more a little more um efficient finding it in the contract uh some updates to the contract being paid the paid life insurance and the paid long-term disability insurance updating those
amounts. And then also moving um an article resignation and retirement moving language 17.2 2 and 17.3 and two resignation and retirement and eliminating postretirement health insurance and then also including HTLS
for 2026 2027 and 2028 to the death. So moved >> second motion and second. Any more discussion? >> All the motion signify by saying I >> I >> post.
Thank you. We are done. So you're at 9:52. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Thank you. Now we're on one upstairs here for here.