Okay, it's 8:30, so we're going to start our work session here on today. We uh we appreciate you guys showing up. We're just going to discuss some of the uh things here in regards to rifle versus slug hunting. Um,
we have to make a decision by May 1st for the state of Minnesota so that they can put this into their rules pamphlet. Um, whether we're going to be a state we are or if we're going to go to a rifle
rifle zone. So, um, some of the things that I've seen and heard from surrounding counties are, you know, uh, they've had some have had hearings, uh, you know, where the people people come in and a lot of them say
it's been kind of like a 50/50 split on on this. So, uh uh my thoughts on this the years I would the sheriff's office um we did I did see three fatalities in
the county from firearm um two of them were in the slug zone, one was in the rifle zone up Ashy's in a split there north of the interstate that's all rifle. So, um, and then I had
a couple other people were injured with slugs. Um, you know, so but, uh, but it all boils down to me is what's your target? Know your target and what's beyond that. So, with that being said, I guess, uh,
you know, we can open it up for for questions or the commissioners have a comment. Uh, but uh, yeah. So, anybody else here got got a got any comments on this? >> Before we maybe get it to the public, I
did do an informal survey of our surrounding counties. Okay. Would everyone be interested to see kind of where they are at in the discussion? >> Um, just for reference, >> um, Douglas County has taken no action.
Um but their informal conversation has been about leaving it to the state legislation going rifle. Um and they're looking at having a public hearing in the future. Uh Ottertale County met to discuss it last fall in 2025 and they
took no action. They're going with the state legislation for rifle. Uh Pulk County held a public hearing this month and have not decided one way or the other. They had a big turnout and it it it was kind of a split audience as well.
Sterns County is holding um a meeting in April. They're a little bit further away. Stevens County held a work session um last week and the consensus from their work session was to um not move forward with a local ordin ordinance. So, they're going to go with the state
uh legislation which is rifle. And then Traverse County just held a public hearing. they had uh 55 people um attend and they did just a straw poll at the end of that meeting and out of the 55 17 were for shotgun ordinance and 31 were
for state legislation. So that's just kind of a an informal reference point for what's happening with all of our neighbors. Okay. So what we got to do is today is I think we got to decide whether or not we're
going to have a you know a public hearing just to get feel of what the general public wants us to do or we can talk about it. I guess if we take no action at all then the state law would
just go into effect and we wouldn't have to do anymore. So that's kind of where we're at. I think a public hearing would be like an important for our like our county is so different. Like you go west of Wendle, it's just flat with a rifle over by Ashley. I can see a rifle being
necessary up in the woods up there. But like our our county is so weird in that sense. Like I'll buy Wendle by my farm. I don't want a rifle up there. I think it's terrible. People shooting out windows half mile away. I' I've seen it with shotgun. Great money. I think it's
going to be 10 times worse the rifle. I don't know. I I really do think we need public discussion. >> I do too. >> Um I read the article in the Grant County Herald a while back about why they changed it. I believe you can correct me if I'm wrong, but back in the
40 they changed the whole southern state to slug. Correct. And the reason was low population of deer. And if I look at our map, right, um there's basically four four zones in our county. 270, 272, 273,
and 213. Two of them count. Two of them zones are lottery bill permits only. That means we're low on deer. One of one of the zones is one deer any size. That's one step up from a lottery. And I
think 213 is the northeast corner. And that's three here. So the only zone that has overpopulation in this county if I look at it right I just had a short time to look it up so I could be wrong is 213 which is the northeast
corner if I actually rules say our county is low ste low low on deer according to that and that's why the slug zone was in back in the day. So I feel we should leave it as slug because we are low on gear or medi and I
agree with Tanner. Safety is the next thing and trespassing is another thing. I've been involved in like five different issues with trespassing and two of them uh I was personally
involved was our land and I called it into the DNR and I was told that if I wanted to pursue a complaint or arrest then he'd come
otherwise he would not come and I thought that wrong, but that's how it went. So, I had to handle it myself. And I'm no law enforcement guy, but I did. So, I think there's trespassing issues because the new sport around here in the
whole area is long range shooting and these rifles can go 6 7 800 yards versus the best slug gun maybe 200 with good shooter behind. That's a lot different. So, I'm in favor of leaving it slug in
our area. Okay. I guess I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I like the keep faith legislation. Um I look at the majority other states in the nation that are rival our neighboring states. Northakota,
South Dakota for example. I don't think it gets much flatter than in Wendle than it does out in North Dakota. uh they use it my my take on it say they have to wait five years to get a tag out there too to get the deer population so low right
they're also I think they're also able to help manage the population by using rifle I mean you've all shot slugs it's not like shooting a rifle or wounding more deer shooting more times at deer I mean where do we draw the line up and we can go out at night and use thermal
and shoot any rifle we coyotes. We can't do it for a two week deer season. >> There's a lot lot less people hunting than a lot less people. So due to the fire guard that we're looking at
restricting I had a hunter approach to me about this and he was explaining how a number of larger bucks which a lot of people hunt for trophy in a sense
that the herd age is going to go down. Well, that was kind of interesting because what might have been shot with a rifle is not getting shot with a shotgun in some cases. So, the herd age. And so, I did a little research and one of the
things that's interesting is one of the reasons the DNR did this was for chronic wasting disease control. We'll just call it CWD. You're all aware of it. If the if it lowers the average herd age by
taking more mature bucks, prevents CWD from getting into this area, gets a good deal. And so we we sure don't want that uh spreading any farther. It's down in the southeast
predominantly now, but if you do the research, it has a lot to do with chronic wasting disease and hurt age. This is a strange request, but uh if you let rifles go, I would love to see a
ordinance or something written that says to enter somebody's property during the deer season, you must have written permission from the landowner. To me, that will prevent a lot of people from shooting from the road and then running out in the field and say, "Oh yeah, I shot that deer over here and it ran
here. Can I I'm going out to get it. Um, you know, nobody owns a deer, but when they raise them in your backyard and you feed them and they eat all your corn and beans and all the rest of that stuff, we like to see them shot
ethically, not from the road. Now, most of you don't remember back about 20 years ago when there were so many deer, you couldn't you didn't drive your car around. Okay, my son sat in a woods that was about 200 yd from the road. He had
to move to the other side of the woods because of all the people coming by shooting at deer running from the road to the woods. Now, that was with a shotgun slical hunters out here. I'm sorry to say that. Okay. We see it every year. I know. I
hunt with the FOS boys here and the number of cars that go up and down the road at 6:30 in the morning is unbelievable. >> And we have had some instances where there has been shots from the road on our land, neighboring land. For whatever
reason, nothing became of that. As far as I know, there's no charges. It was pretty cut and dry case on my part. They had open container of alcohol, shooting from the road, shooting from the vehicle, disappearing, shooting after hours. Pretty cut and dry in my book.
And as far as I know, unless I'm wrong, nothing ever came of that. So where's the enforcement if it goes into rifle? And maybe we see more, maybe we see less of that from the road, but it's already been very prevalent in our area. So where is this enforcement
of these situations when it's already could be a little lackluster already is is what we're worried about. The biggest thing is safety. Um I've had my car shot at before in the general direction when I was out hunting myself. Another
incident they were shooting in unsafe direction where we had hunters in a grove. So you're already talking shotguns there with a rifle. you could exacerbate that. But the biggest thing comes down to if it happens, regardless of the weapon, where's the followup on
these things? People are held accountable and you know you if you're accountable for your actions and law enforcement lays down the hammer so it doesn't happen again regardless of the weapon involved. I'm sure our lawyer here can tell us
that it's almost impossible to get a conviction on trespassing because they're going to go out there and tell you your signs aren't in the right spot. They're not the right distance apart and all that other stuff. And in fact, I think there's articles written in papers that say I can beat any trespassing
violation you have. So, okay. Well, we're going to discuss the rifle versus shotgun now. uh you know if uh I would just encourage people if if there's uh violations of the law to report that um then they can be
investigated. But uh you know my thoughts are it always goes back with me to being safe out there. Okay? Doesn't matter what kind of firearm you got. You don't want to pull that trigger if if if you don't
know what's beyond your target. Okay? So, well, I've been hunting deer for over 50 years, and I can't remember too many years where I haven't shot a deer. I've shot them all with slugs. So, I guess where I hunt and everything, a
slug is just fine with me, you know. But I would I would say too that if you got a, you know, uh there's places where we could use a rifle and shoot a little further out and it would be perfectly safe. You're shooting into a hill or something like that. But I would be concerned also sitting
out in the woods where I'm at and everything. You're sitting behind the woods. Yeah, you got to wear your orange and everything, but you're sitting in your hut and everything. And if somebody comes from a distance away that isn't used to the area or whatever, they're not going to know if I'm sitting behind the woods or not in my hut or whatever
and start pulling off a 300 Win Mag because there's no caliber restrictions or anything on there. You got to hope that the guy isn't out there shooting, you know, five, six, 700 yards that are running deer or standing deer out there and I'm sitting behind the woods. I
would be concerned some for a safety issue also on this deal with long distance like that. But having said that, I'm also uh not in favor of gun control. And I guess the way I look at it some ways and everything too, you're
restricting us from using any gun that we really really want to, you know, you guys have got a tough job. There's no question about it to decide what we're going to do here and everything. But but uh uh like I say, I'm not in favor of gun control, so we should be able to use
any gun that we ever wanted to. But there again, you're putting an awful lot of pressure on the hunters and everything. If they're good hunters and and decent people and everything, they'll know that a 300 wind mag isn't what you got to use out there to take a deer, you know, and hopefully that they
know what's behind them, what they're shooting into, so it does go through somebody's house or whatever. But, uh, I guess my biggest concern would be maybe the safety issue just where we're hunting anyway.
Mr. Chair, I got a question. How many of you guys got land that butts up to wildlife? >> You know, that's you know, you brought up a very valid point, Tanner. You know, you know, they could they can shoot at a deer on your property and if it runs into the wildlife, you know, you know,
they'll hunt right on the line and things like that. So, you know, something there there's going to be more of an impact of, you know, these wildlife areas and more hunters just because you can use a rifle and trooper. Another one of my concerns, too, is being so close to North Dakota as well. I think we're going to get a lot of
non-residents. I think it's $184 for a non-resident to come over here or North Dakota. If you are a resident, it takes five years just to get a tag, right? >> So, I think that's another thing that we should really think about here. How many more hunters are we going to have in our area? What's that going to do to regard
population? >> I guess I would like to see the conversation has been about trespassing, which really has nothing to do with rifle or shotgun, and how many citations issued for road hunting, even though it's been shotgun, have used a
rifle because we're breaking the law. So, are we expecting to follow this law, but not that law? Because the ones I know of that have been prosecuted, they've been using rifles anyway, even though we've been a shotgun zone, they've been using rifles anyway. So, we're not changing anything
by allowing the rules followers to use a rifle. I brought up about there's so about the deer population, and that was what designed to do, control population. >> Yeah. And we don't have the population according DNR.
20 years ago we could shoot five deer that when our population you know I mean talk about how bad our populations got in our area. >> Yep. >> Never long ago we could shoot five deer by one. Now we can shoot one >> with a permit only to get a dog.
>> Yep. >> It's just it's hard to blanket the whole state with this. It just it just doesn't work. It It One size doesn't fit all beard in my head. That's an opinion. I got a question for you.
You think my comment here waste? Are you concerned about chronic wasting disease? >> According to the what I read is that is hurt does not hurt people. Okay. Bottom line, I can't see any that I've
read anything about killing people or anything like that. That's a concern. Yes. >> If you read further into that, it does relate. It's And you're right. It hasn't. But it can that pron it's like mad compasses. >> Yeah. >> And we sure don't want
>> No. >> Because if it does happen, you bure. >> We were in a test zone this year. We had to bring our here to Fergus to get tested the first week at the paper >> in 270. >> Has anybody got the results back?
>> Yeah. The last I looked they tested uh out of Fergus anyway and stuff and for oursel >> they tested 75 and they were all clear. >> Well, they it was on the internet and everything. That's that's the last item
voted for that weeks after the season or whatever it was. >> Sorry. I think just the safety of everything with slug versus rifle. I mean, where I hunt West of Wendell, I got 50 60 acres of wildlife that buds up to me and
there's anywhere from four to eight different trucks hunting it at once during the gun season. and they're all on each side of it shooting into the middle. I mean, you add a rifle into that and you're that bullet is traveling just as far. They're not seeing where they're shooting. They're shooting into
me. I mean, to me, it's a no-brainer to look at it as slug, especially with those circumstances of not knowing where your bullet's going. And you don't know who's on the other side of that wild ledge. They parked on the other road or I guess I'm in the same situation. And I mean, I live right next to wildlife with
a ton of hunters out there. I hear the shots and I hear the volley of shots that are range from two to five a lot of times. And I mean, not everybody's a great shot.
Some people are great shots, right? But typically when you're shooting with a shotgun, you start rattling off with an automatic like that, you tend to start losing your target. you tend to start letting your shots fly where I guess with a rifle throwing in,
yes, you have the op you have the chance to miss for sure. You do your chances of missing are probably greatly reduced. Um, but the higher accuracy rifles I Yes, I've heard shots come flying over the house and that and that's been with
a shotgun. Know what's behind your target. Don't shoot at the crest of a hill. And whether legislation we go with a state or a state shotgun, that ain't going to change. People are still going to do what they're going to do with whatever
firearm they choose to use. They're going to break the law. They're going to break the law. >> That's a good point, Jason, because no matter which way we go here in the future, somebody's going to get hurt. It's going to happen because you got
400,000 deer hunters out there and uh somebody's going to get hurt in Grand County uh you know sometime I hope never but it's going to happen three times when I was there and uh >> well the question is does a rifle
increase the odds of that happening versus a shotgun? >> I don't think so myself. Well, I think that if you're shooting at the top of a hill and that bullet will fly farther than a slug will, >> right? But the people the people that >> Yeah. But people don't >> The people that I seen get shot the
people that I seen get shot were anywhere from six yards to 100 yards. So it it all boils down to gun safety rifle and uh but we can make it safer. I
mean that's kind of what we're talking about. I mean gun safety is definitely >> but a gun that can shoot 800 yards compared to 200. That's a vast difference on where that bullet possibly travel. >> I mean that's what we're essentially talking about here is safe.
>> Yeah. But I will say that that I in the state of Minnesota where there's rifle zones, I've never I've never heard of somebody getting shot, you know, 7 800 yards away, but it's maybe happened. >> Mr. Chair, I got a little tidbit. I don't know if you guys caught with this
on your phones, but did you hear about the car that got hit on the interstate right over here by alley? And they can't figure out where that round come from, but they were just driving down the interstate and all of a sudden a bullet entered their car. Yeah, >> you guys remember that? You probably was
on your phones. You know, you know, you can't you got to control your backdrop, but sometimes that is impossible and you will take that shot because you're focusing on that deer and then you wish you would wouldn't have done that shot. Well, we can't have
people hurt and we can't have farm machinery that's working out here that could possibly get shot at, right? You know, they're they're not just on the roads. they're they're out in the fields and you're scraping and late fall activities and things like that. So, you
know, we this got to be well thought out and you know, there's a lot of passion in the room in my my opinion. So, I think we should do a town hall meeting, Mr. Chair, somewhere wherever you decide you want to establish it and
and give us a well-rounded discussion. >> Mr. Chair is is everything north of the interstate rifle. >> Yes. So >> we can make that sharper. >> No. No.
But I'm from Kitson County. If you look at the map, there's a thing called the Red River Valley. You follow down. If you go east of the valley, there's a lot of woods. There's a lot of rifle hunting in the valley. If you're not in the river bottom,
there's a lot of room for bullets. And so, I don't know. Well, I think I think what we got to decide, hey, is we're going to have this public hearing or not? So, go ahead, what's your thoughts on public hearing versus just going to the state?
Well, we definitely need to have a beering, but on my way over this morning, I seen 400 deer between here and I at least, >> right? >> I mean, they're of course there's a lot of area, you know, a lot of them around south of Pineidge Park.
>> They're yarded up. >> Yeah. But I mean, they need some of them need to be gone because they'll be laying out in the field this fall or the spring, I mean, come spring. So, >> according to DNR though, we're low on deer. >> Yeah. We don't have we don't get dope. Well, they better drive around a little
bit. No, all we can do is what they say. >> That comes back to mismanagement. So, my question would be, how do they enforce a law? Say we're say Grand counties in this little island. All everyone else around us goes to state.
Well, who's going to enforce one county when there's a state officer covered in five counties? Or how name your number of counties? Who's going to actually divorce if we do stay shocked? That'd be my question in the whole deal.
>> Okay. So, Kenny, what's your thoughts on a public hearing versus I would uh say we don't need one, >> right? >> Well, before I answer that, I do want to say that I talked to a well, he's a
senior game. You know, I'm not going to say his name. And I asked specifically about the safety aspect of it. And he said that with the vast majority of hunters today sitting in a tree or an elevated stand, he wasn't concerned. And
I'm never going to say we don't need a public hearing. But outside of today, I haven't heard of anybody that wanted to stay shotgun. Good. Well, I mean, if you look at this room, I'd say Brown really wanted to stay shotgun. I think that right there
would say we should have a public hearing. I mean, at the end of the day, >> yeah, I think I I'm kind of where I think I think the rifle would be okay or,
you know, but uh but I'm willing to have a public hearing, but I know at a public hearing what's going to happen is going to be 50/50 probably. But, uh, I think we'll we'll we will call for a public hearing then and and talk about it and, uh, then we'll have to make it our
decision. So, >> I got one more comment, please. >> I'm just opposite of you, Troy. Everyone I've talked to wants love. >> Do you want to give me a call? >> I I know >> those are those are what I heard in your area.
>> Well, Mr. Chair, just one quick thing. >> And like I say, I'm not obviously the public hearing I think is good. Transparency is good, but I do think it's increasing in really important if we're going to have a public hearing that we present the reasons why the
state made the change and if it is chronic wasting disease and herd health and herd age, that's got to be on the forefront. >> But, you know, you guys just talked about how we were talking about trespassing and everything and now you're talking about CWD when the main concern here is our safety.
>> That's not why DNR did it. I know >> they did it for but but if we're >> what I'm saying these guys are talking about trespassing you have to stay on the topic of slug versus rifle >> and now we're talking about CWD which is a whole another can of worms >> but that's why the state made the change
is to lower the average age of the deer because you're going to shoot more big bucks with rifle thus possibly limiting >> part of DNR are alone are low on deer >> shouldn't that also be up to the landowner on
their private property to make the best her decision that they can. >> Well, a land owner can still say you can't use a rifle. >> Yeah. >> True. >> So, I mean, if we went rifle and 98% of the land owners in Grant County said no way, there'd be very few rifles. >> But they're also going to deal with the
people that are using rifle, they go from the road, which I agree that no matter what the weapon, if they're going to do it illegal, they're going to do it illegal. So, what are the repercussions? Like going back to the trespassing thing, you said that's not part of this. Well, when these incidents occurred with rifles from the road,
it's a blanket statement. The enforcement should be the same, but the penalties on these things regardless of the weapon because you just brought up >> I agree. The enforcement should be the same and that's not >> they can't do anything. >> That's not what we've seen from the incidents that we've had and we've had a
multitude of incidents over here. Some have been also being upset about the animals taken on our land, the neighboring neighboring land, but also safety has been in there, too. So, we've seen in both aspects from where we're coming from, too. Not just one, we've
experienced both. >> Okay. Well, I should appreciate you guys coming in and I anticipate you'll be at our public hearing. So, >> Okay. >> But, uh, that's what we'll do then. I'm going to I'll I'll look at some dates and we'll we'll have a public hearing in
this room here, I think, because it's going to be a lot of people and uh we'll uh we'll put a notice in the paper and we'll talk about it some more. >> I would not guarantee it. We expect a larger crowd. We maybe want to look for
him. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Well, we'll we'll figure out a location and we'll have that hearing. Okay. >> So, thank you for coming. We'll call the commission meeting to order to come. Yeah.
Will. >> All right, I'm going to call the meeting to order at 9:00. the approval of the agenda. >> No one the email that was sent off of the additional agenda from the highway department. That would be an agenda
addition. >> Okay. Do we want to Did you guys read that? Do we want to add that to the agenda? Do we want to do we want to wait? >> Mr. Chair, I'll make that motion to add that to the agenda. Okay. what was
presented in our emails along with what's existing. >> Okay. So, do we have a second for that? >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Not yet. >> I'll second. >> Okay, we got a motion and a second. Any
further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I >> and that that will be added to the highway here then chair. >> Okay. Approval of meeting minutes. A second. >> No.
Second. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second to approve the meeting minutes. Uh any further discussion? >> All in favor sign by saying I. I. I. The approval of the warrants.
I need a motion to pay the warrants. >> Okay. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second to pay the warrants. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I I opposed.
Motion carried. Okay, Matt. >> How are we doing? >> Good. Good morning, chair, commissioners. First item I have for you today is the certificate of final acceptance for our contract 252 with Camp Incorporated,
which they were our 2025 traffic marketing contractor. All the work's been completed on their end. All their paperwork is in. The last thing on our end is for the board to acknowledge final acceptance and we will make final
payment, close the contract out. But that's what the resolution is here for. Okay, we have a motion to accept that resolution. I will make that motion, Mr. Chair.
Okay, we have a motion to accept the resolution. We have a second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? >> I
motion carried. The next item I have today is bids for the Lake Township placement up on 280th Street. Uh last Tuesday we did bid the project and we got a total of 11 biders. Surprising
our estimate was $130,377 and the low bidder was Joel Riley construction about 82,979 and that's about 36% below what was estimated. So recommending the contract over construction.
So move. Okay, we have a motion to approve. We have a second. >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second to approve the bid. Um, any further discussion on that? >> Got a question. Is this a sign of the
times or was the engineers estimate off or what's your thought on that? Well, the engineers estimates tend to run right in about the middle of where they should be, but uh 11 biders is quite surprising. I don't think I've seen that for
part of it could be good projects. There's no paving to gravel the road makes quite simple for a lot of excavators, but the the sheer volume of D still quite surprising. Sure. Okay. So, we have a motion and a second.
Uh, and we have discussed this. So, all in favor? >> I. >> All opposed? Motion carried. >> Thank you, board. >> Thanks, ma'am. I will be gone the rest of the move for com.
>> Morning gentlemen. >> Uh I sent out a list of the items we'd like to purchase this year for the highway department. Um it does fall within our schedule of stuff that we were going to do. Um it is in with our
budget also. So uh we are looking at the road grader. Um a tack trailer, some end dump pups, uh some brakes for the road graders to get the grass off the roads. Uh soil conditioner for a skid loader, a packer,
and a mower. So um looking for a motion to approve them items >> question. Do we sell or trade in what we have or do we add is an addition or
>> though we will be selling the two older ones we have. I think they're I can't remember the model they're the years they're they're quite older early 90s so we'll be selling them on auction. Sure. This is not figuring any sale price.
This is full. Yeah. Purchase >> price. Purchase price. >> Are you working with Jamie to make sure we have cash on? >> Yep. I'll do that once once the items show up. I'll make sure we have the cash ready to go. So,
>> yeah, we just sent out we're sending out $2 million in the build. >> Yeah. None of none of these are due right at the moment. It's just what what we plan to purchase somewhere. That's what we like. >> Just make sure she has an estimate of when we >> Yep. I'll make a motion to approve this equipment purchase.
>> Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second that. >> We have a motion and a second uh to uh approve this 2026 equipment list for highway. Any further discussion?
Hearing none. All All in favor? I I opposed Motion carried. All right. I do have one more thing that showed up on my desk on Friday. Um Promaster reached out to me um on our schedule the next thing to purchase is another plow truck for 2027.
They already pushed back into May possibly July for us to get um a spot to get our stuff put on the truck at that time. So, what I was going to ask is if we could get uh get your guys' permission to go ahead and sign a
contract of intent um for 2027 to get our truck in there. Uh I did get a bid from them from Toll Master. Uh it will be 202,000 just for the snowfall equipment on that truck. The truck will also be 161,000.
Uh so a total of 364,000 for a snowball truck in 207. So, I would just like to be able to intend to get the process started for 2027. >> And we we did talk about this at the
highway committee um meeting. Um so, it's it's just like anything else nowadays when you got to order things and you don't get them for two years. >> Exactly. And we don't have to we don't have to pay for nothing till the 2027 budget. I've already clarified that with
them. We'll sign a letter of intent for 2029 as well >> because the county is going to be here. >> We're going to need one in 2029, too. >> We probably could, but I don't know if they actually go out that far. >> You know what I'm saying? >> When you send them the 27th one to ask
him if they could take a 29. >> I mean, they could, but they're not going to have a price on it. I'm sure, but see what they say. >> We don't need a price, but we need a spot. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I mean, we can sell the spot to somebody else if the price is >> Exactly. That's the main thing. We're just we want to have our spot there so
we can keep on our rotation of trucks every other year. So >> Mr. Chair, I got a question. So how many spots are open that currently? >> Uh there's two there was as of Friday there's two spots in May. Otherwise it was July. So >> okay. >> Um if we do if we do get in on that May
spot we'll have June delivery on that truck. >> So otherwise would have probably September delivery which either way is fine. We just need to have a spot that's locked out for 2020. You don't want to know numbers spot. >> Exactly. >> Right. >> So on your spreadsheet you had 300,000
was in your estimate and that's not >> that's not correct no more. >> Just to be 400 whatever. >> Yeah. But that's the item we're talking about. >> Yes. That's >> okay. Do we need a motion? Be best if we did. Okay. Do we have a motion? Anybody
want to make a motion? >> As a member of the committee, I'll make that motion. Okay. We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion on that? Okay, hearing none. Uh, all in favor?
>> I opposed. Motion carried. >> Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> Okay. read >> I believe the first one is a conditioning instrument. So a couple months back auto power reached out and said hey we have a substation just
outside town here not too far that we would like to add some solar to. Well for the solar ordinance what they're adding was considered a commercial use because they're just going to put it up and sell it directly to the grid. So that required a conditional use permit. So what happened is they're designed in
their very tight quarter. They also had to get a variance. So they came on the 10th of December to the board adjustment and got their variance from the setbacks there on the side properties which they'd already talked to the neighbors. The neighbors were all okay with that.
And then after that they the pack or the v the board adjustment approved their variant for that setback. And then we did backtoback meetings. We just flipped and did a board of adjustment meeting. Then they presented the same project to the saying five guys plus the
commissioner to do this project for commercial use. So the pack said, "Yeah, that shouldn't be any issues. It's at a substation. It's that's actually the size of this room. It's very small actually, but based on their use, that's what they needed." So
the next step in that process after the packet approved it is then to come to you guys and say, "Hey, here's the project. here's where it is. Do you guys want to approve it? Do you want to approve it with conditions? Do you want to deny it? Those are kind of your three options. Uh the pack elected to approve
it. They didn't put any conditions on it since there's really no dirt work. There's no tree clearing. There's no none of those usual things we have in shoreland when we do kind of initially use this. >> Well, they're conditioned. >> Yeah. There's Make sure you have like your state permits. Make sure those kind
of things, but not like the the usual pack heavy ones where we really foc. There's some definitions, but if you guys had any additional ones to add, but the pack of the paper. Thank you. >> I will make a motion to pass the
conditional use permit with just the few conditions that that committee has. >> Okay, we have a second. >> Second. >> Okay. Uh we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carried. >> And then you might I'll have that with Tina for you to sign a couple of spots. And Tina, there'll be a spot for you. >> Okay. The next thing I have is it's the single sword delivery contract we have with
Pope Douglas. So for the last I don't know, six months or so. So, since Julyish, uh, we've been hauling all of our curbside and our trailers directly to Hope Douglas instead of taking them from here to Stevens County and then over to Hutch because Hope Douglas
there, remember the beginning part of 25 shut down for 3 4 months to redo their whole recycling floor to make space for this single sort of stuff. So, they're trying to add more things to their portfolio to make things make sense. So, basically right now, we send all of our garbage there and all of our recycling
there. So they're pretty much have taken everything from us. So what we did is they've been working through a contract with the counties and with a hauler because they have contracts with the haulers to because they're the ones paying for tip fees. They're the ones
doing a lot of this stuff, but because like Grant and Stevens and a couple others are a little different. They're contracting between us Douglas with uh Troy Ason are signing off as well. There's some hauler insurance deals as
part of it. And we have our piece that says, "Yep, county will pay the tipping fee. The hauler will haul the stuff to them, that kind of thing." So, and had some turnover, so they had intended to get this contract to us quite a while ago, and then just some things didn't go the way they're supposed to, and then it
took a little while, but they finally got that year going. So, they've kind of already been taking our stuff and the last months or so, it's been going good. They're very happy with our stuff. We're still getting the rate that we reported a year year and a half ago when they
came before. That's at 58 bucks a ton. So, we'll see what they come back in middle of this year. So, you notice the contract goes to like September. That's basically about a year since they started taking our stuff full time. So, >> Mr. Chair, I got a question. So, where's
that Steven County fee? Are we done paying for that then? Currently right now we are still paying it on the off chance that Pope Douglas say next year jacks the right way up because they found that they just can't make it work on what they're charging and we have to go back to Hutch. And the reason for that is there was some things between
the counties that have kind of gone on the last couple of years that the worry is if we leave Stevens County and then have to come back to a new contract that the price will be quite a bit more. And there's talks too on their end, not just from that that hey, right now we're really only paying for recycling space,
but a lot of our demo also goes to them for no different cost, no additional costs, no nothing, not paying anything extra for that. So there's talks of there being a fee there, but right now we're kind of locked into a pretty cheap in relative term fee per month for that. So,
>> we're continuing to pay it until we get a new price from Poke Douglas because if we get a new price for the recycling from Poke Douglas that is Outlander should we'll have to start sending back to Hutchinson. So, we're hedging our bet that
we want to see what that price is before we commit. That makes sense. Kind of a little sheriff makes. >> Okay. Uh hearing that then uh do we have a motion? >> I'll make a motion to sign the single source recycling delivery and processing
contract with Poke Douglas. >> Okay, do we have a second? >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Uh any further discussion on this hearing? None. I'll call for the question. All in favor?
>> I opposed? Motion carried. >> Excellent. Thanks. Again, Mr. Chair, got one more thing. I'd like to congratulate Reed and his family on the first baby of the year in 920. >> Thank you. Congratulations.
Congratulations. >> Okay. >> And speed. me next. Go for it. Right next. >> Before Maya starts, I I gota I'm gonna have to leave here at 9:30 because I got a funeral for a friend I got to go to.
So, Commissioner Levali will take my spot at 9:30. >> All right. Well, I'm going to get done before 9:30 then. Yeah. Um, just quickly, I'll send this picture around, but this is our um, we have a boiler in this building
that has a um, exhaust manifold that runs through the condensate area of the boiler and it is um, wore out already and so it needs to be replaced. So, um, because it has a
$9,800 price tag with it, I said I better come here and talk to you guys about it just to make sure everybody's on the same page. But, um, essentially that replaces the piece. And then there's also some um, neutralizer pellets that
are in the boiler itself that they will replace on both boilers in that process. um that apparently they break down over time and then they can help to exasperate this pitting and and uh
deterioration of these manifolds. So um yeah, that was our train inspection that we get done yearly with our contract uncovered that. So um that is my item. >> So should the neutralizer be replaced
more often because that's eight years old. that show. >> So that was the next thing he said, "Well, they should be replaced yearly." And I said, "Well, you guys do the service on it. Do you replace it?" Well, that's not part of our contract. So, I'm just learning of these pellets now, but that'll be something that we'll have to
monitor now going forward that these pellets are replaced on a yearly basis. They do check and service and if they get deteriorated, they clean them out. But he said they hadn't been replacing the pellet. So, I'm not
>> sure. Is there a test they can just do in the water to see if they're still functional? >> I think it's all part of their inspe when they do their inspection, they got to go in and check all these things. So, my understanding is they can tell if they're deteriorated or not. They just hadn't been replacing them. So, again,
um I have to I talked to him this morning and he just said that they would get replaced now. And I said, "Well, are you have you been replacing them or is this the first time in eight years they've been replaced?" He said, "Well, I think it's the first time they've been replaced." So, but it's not part of that service contract. So, anyway, I got to
get to the bottom of that, but we will make sure that going forward those pellets are replaced. So, >> is that something we can do? >> That part I again I just talked to him a half hour ago and I I don't know the ins and outs of that yet, but we'll get that
figured out so that we're not eight years down the road. >> So, those pellets, do they neutralize the water? Is that the >> That's my understanding. the condensate portion of that. Um they they help get rid of some of that. So when they
deteriorate then that water can sit and it ain't costing. >> Yeah. So um again I had a little little learning to do on that piece but at least now we can look at it. I said well what happens next month when the other one you know there's two boilers there. So he said well we can't you know some
of them will go 20 years and we won't have this problem and then some will you know go eight and you had to replace it. So, so if we had been doing the pellets, would that have prevented the $9,800? >> I can't answer that. I'm not sure
because the other one's not, you know, that's what my point is is that he said some of them will go a long time and, you know, he said he's never had to make this replacement before. That part I don't I don't know about. So, he didn't have any more information on that than
what he gave me. So, again. I might come back next month and say the other one has to be I I don't know that. But in that one might go another 10 years before we got to do it next. So, >> but there is pellets in this one that's
working properly that >> there actually is in both of them. They're just at a deteriorated level to where he said when they do this replacement, they'll make sure that they're replaced in there and everything's where it's supposed to be. So, >> so is there a test?
How do we know they're deteriorating and we're heading for a $10? >> Well, they do they do a they do their annual inspection on this on the system. Um, again, I don't have that answer because I'm just now I I
mean, I just got it this last week and I was like, "Oh, where did that come from?" So, anyway, >> so who's been doing the inspecting since >> train? There's a we have a train service contract with um train and they're out of Fargo and this particular
their service pack that comes out is kind of covers our region or whatever. So what I was getting at is if we had a contract and the part of the contract was to check the pellets or the whatever to prevent this event.
They're saying it's not in their contract to replace it. it's not in your contract to check it because there's quite a bit of difference. >> Yeah. Again, I I I need to get to the bottom of those questions and I don't have all that information. I just know I asked that. I said, "Well, you do this
yearly or well, it's not really part of our service contract." So, again, I got to get to the bottom of what that is. And if it is something that should be replaced annually, why is it not? And you know, it's not like if you're doing air filters, you don't just leave this
air filter out cuz it's not in our con. You know, that's again, I don't I don't know those answers yet, but we'll figure them out. >> It should all be wrapped up into a service agreement. >> Yep. So, again, he said it probably be a couple
weeks to get the parts and get a date scheduled to repair it, but that's what I got for you. fix. Yeah. You got to fix it. >> Now, I did ask just if not that I'm saying I want to go replace these
boilers, but I did ask currently these boilers run at 50% only because of the way the regulator gas regulation comes into the building. So, they're let's say they're a,00and BTU boiler. Neither one of them ever goes over 500.
And I said, "Well, why why do we have double the size of boilers that you know, well, he said he wasn't sure on that piece, but I said, "Well, let me know what a" I kind of asked, "What is a, you know, half size boiler cost versus repair? You know, if we're going
to do a bunch of this kind of stuff, what do we Anyway, I don't know what those numbers are. I'm just going to ask some questions of them going forward, but um my understanding is currently neither one of our we have two boilers in this building that alternate and
neither one of them ever goes above 50% capacity. So >> he related that 50% to the pressure gas pressure. >> Yes. He said they currently because of the way the regulator on the outside of the building and the equipment inside said they don't they won't run above
that kind of like they can't get enough. There's no >> well so when we first opened this building that first January we had 38 below and the boiler's quas wasn't sized appropriately so they put a
vaporizer on there. So, I don't know if this is still setting for prior to the vaporizer. That's what I again this is a piece that I'm just trying to get my head wrapped around of why we have a you know a thousand we'll say it's a it's
called the 1,000 model whatever why do we have that we're only using a 500 you know I don't know those attribute that either so but going up what Troy said now I was actually leading up to that question if we have a vaporizer it's pulling liquid off the tank
That definitely's got to work. I mean, that's the reason for the vaporizer. >> I don't know that it's a question at this point of that because why just put my coat on? But if half half size can keep up, >> right? That's what I mean. So, now we're
going to start getting these kind of builds on a system that's, you know, not running at full capacity and efficiency. Let's figure out what it is and go from there. But again, I can't tell you if that's a million dollars or $100. I don't I don't know any of that stuff yet. So, just digging into that piece of
it to see what else comes of it. So, >> okay. Well, I'll let you know. I'll I'll get back. >> I'll make a motion to How much was it? >> 98 >> to have that fixed for that price.
>> The building committee will second it. >> Okay. We have a motion in a second. Uh uh any further discussion? >> I guess the the further discussion would be did this company or train install the system? They did not. So eight years is
not a long time to do. So, I think there should be some followup to who did this work and and then before we just buy equipment to ensure what we have is correct.
And so, and you're you're kind of alluding that we're going to do this, but I think we should hear back. >> Yeah. I think that I'm contact who did the work >> and if there's a vaporizer or if it's a gas pressure issue
because there's a lot bigger burners out there that aren't running at 50%. So that one's not right. Okay. All right. Uh any further discussion? If none I'll call the question. All in favor?
>> I opposed. Motion carried. We're going to take a one minute break here and then Bill, you can take over and I'll sign some forms and I'll talk to you guys later. >> I thought it was a new new day, you know. I know. I want to look
like you. All right, Ashley, you can go ahead with what you got on the agenda here. >> What? >> Um, so the first thing I have is um regarding the deputy assessor. So, currently we are actively um searching for a deputy assessor. It closes on
Friday. However, we have not received any applications for the position. Uh the position requires any certification. Not a lot of people have. Um and so just for the essence of time, I'm coming to the board today um to get approval that
if in the event we do not get any applications, we are looking to get the old uh job description that was reclassified in June of 2025 um back to active so we can try um advertising in that job description
which takes a few job duties away and also takes away um this the deputy assessor going out to a place Um and then trying to advertise internal if we receive a application by Friday that is qualified then we'll keep going
but it's it' be in the event we don't Okay. So, what are you looking for? You want a motion to retool the job description if you don't get any applications or what are you thinking? >> In the event we do not receive um in the event we do not receive applications by
January 23rd, qualified applications by January 23rd, looking to um approve the classified deputy assessor position that was classified June of 2025. I love Tyra.
>> You ready for motion? Tina, >> I'll make that motion. >> Got a motion on the board. Looking for a second. >> Second. Motion in a second. Any other discussion? >> Yeah, I got a question.
Do we figure that changing the application back to the original that we will get more applicants? So, what's this? We're taking >> What was the reason we didn't get any compared to what we were looking at? >> Well, we're trying.
We're experimenting. >> We went to a true county, I don't know, five years ago, let's say, and we haven't retoled positions in that office since then. >> Okay. >> So, we're we tried to retool and set up the way the vision was that it was going to operate.
Didn't seem to work out. So, we'll go back to the way it was and see how that was. Okay. I >> and the department head meaning the assessor is all on board with this. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Okay. There is a motion to second. Are
we done with discussion? >> All in favor of said motion signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> Carried. >> All right. The next thing I have is finance technician. So we had previously looked to hire the position. uh we did
not find anybody that had the specific qualifications we were looking for in the position. However, we have a financial technician in the position now, one of them um that is still being trained um still, you know, Jamie's attention on her training process. And so, right now, instead of hiring a
full-time, we're looking to hire a temporary part-time um to get somebody potentially um that maybe has the experience that could do some of the duties without having to be as much trained in. So then Jamie can focus on the training and get through our busy
time or her busy time um with everything going on and then we look at uh advertising and hiring at a later date. >> So this position or the number of days they can work >> 67. >> So and the charter has been made away
aware that this person cannot work more days than that. So, it's truly just to get us through the the upcoming tax season and after that we'll try to rehire. Even if we hired someone at this point to get the training done for tax
season just gets to be you said 67. >> Yes. >> Otherwise, they're then benefit eligible. >> Is it going to say is that a random number or is that significant? >> Yep. Benefit. >> Okay. I didn't say it just because I wanted to
say it. >> I'm just catching on. You >> I'm looking for a motion to hire. >> So second motion to second on the floor. Any other discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of said
motion signify by saying I. >> Opposed. Carried. >> All right. Next thing I have is um looking to um open a cadet an internal cadet position. Uh we do have this position but we have not had an opening for over a year. So I'm coming to get it
opened um internally. We have a dispatcher that will be going to skills um over the summer and so then transitioning into a deputy. And so we're looking to trans so we don't have a gap in service where he leaves in May and then we rehire. So if we move him to
a cadet, we can do some of the FTO with some of the training policies type things. And then we can also look to hire his replacement uh in that time too. So we have training and we're not short. So looking to open a cadet
internal um cadet position and then also in the meantime hiring potentially in April for the open dispatch position for training services. That's truly what this position was made for is a scenario like this. I'll make
the motion to open the cadet position motion on the floor. >> No second motion this second. Any other discussion? Okay. I got a question. Um is is this going to be coming out of the sheriff's budget? 100%.
There's no dollars that are, you know what I mean, like state or any any kind of outside revenue. >> No, that we just there was no grants applied for. Okay. This is truly just this individual >> will have graduated I believe. Then they
just have to get their skills done. So that I mean that's what the cadet position was created for someone who's done with school but hasn't done the skills. >> Okay. >> For I think I think where you're headed is no. We did. You would have had to have applied for
these positions to get the money and we never did that. This is just a dispatcher to finish school that wants to. >> Okay. Motion to second on the floor. All in favor of said motion signify by saying I. I.
>> I carried. >> All right. So the next thing I have is MOA for teamsters. So when um the union contract was approved, the team source contract um it was agreed upon that overtime happens after 8 hours. However,
our building maintenance worker currently has the flexibility with the needs of the building to come early um leave early, come in later, work later, things like that. And so that really doesn't work out for this position. And
in talking with Maya and talking with um this individual um he does like the flexibility. So I did talk to the union about um creating an MLA or an agreement of some sort to allow that flexibility. So the MOA is just um identifying that E
does not follow the overtime after 8. He would follow the overtime after 40 to allow that flexibility to come in. >> MOA said after 80. >> Yeah. after. >> Either way, I fine with it. >> Well, the one I have says 40. I want to
change it. Listen. So, yeah. So, >> which one are we doing? >> We'll do 40. >> I think we're do 40. >> Okay. >> So, essentially, you know, we comes in at 4:00 today, moves snow. Well, then he has to leave at noon.
if he can stay till two, maybe he can leave a different day or you know like he just has that flexibility where there's no other position that need needs that flexibility to to do those things. So really it has to do a ton with snow removal and making sure that
we're not paying overtime for him to, you know, we're going to pay some overtime and snow removal regardless just because it's going to we don't know when it's all going to come. But if we can pull up that schedule, you know, so that he can do the things he needs to do in the off hours and and get me together
versus saying, "Okay, today I can work seven hours because I worked, you know, 14 yesterday or whatever that is." So anyway, just flexibility >> and none of us were against the agreed this is a prime example why
>> so this will just be only for the building units work >> and I'll I'll ask that question now you know when he is gone you're going to be around so at least we have one employee >> for you know facility maintenance
calendar up so that I know what days he needs and he knew like the last two weeks that I was going to be gone. So, >> yeah, >> we got one around just for dressings that pop up. Who knows? >> If neither one of us is around, Tina will be here. So,
>> it was good on a John Deere. Okay. Well, I'm looking for a motion. So, move. >> Motion on the floor. Second. And motion is second. Any other discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of that motion
signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Carried. >> All right. The last thing I have is um so when we did the wage study and the board approved the final wage, the intent of course was to not have anybody
go backwards in pay or decrease in pay. And so when the uh wage study was approved um they approved for the auditor to be at a step 13 which his wage is above and beyond the scale. And so he would then at that what the board
would what the board approved then was a decrease. So I'm here today to adjust that um to be to freeze his 1231 2025 wage until the scale catches up. Spreadshore back to January one.
>> So move motion on the floor. Looking for a second. Is there a second? Any other discussion? Is there any other discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of said
motion signify by saying I >> I opposed carried. Thank you. And it looks like you're up. >> Yep. I just have two items. The first was justformational.
um the letters of intent from the elected officials who plan to refile this. There's a statute that says they need to notify the board and it's geared towards the elected positions that they're still
elected and the auditor, treasurer, and recorders office. Um the attorney and sheriff don't necessarily have to provide a letter of intent. However, we just sent the information out to to the five elected officials and they did um
supply a letter of intent as well. So, all five are included in your board packet just forformational purposes. And the other item that I have is um at the last meeting the board approved the county fee schedule. Um and that county
fee schedule has not changed except there's been one addition to it. I um inadvertently forgot to list the dangerous dog fee. So that has now been included. It's an annual fee of $500 if if someone has issued a dangerous dog.
And so that was put on the countywide uh fee schedule. And so I'm just looking for a motion to approve it with that addition. >> So moved. Motion on the floor. Second. Motion to second. Any other
discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of said motion signify by saying I. I. I. >> Opposed. Carried. Is that all you have? >> That's all I have. >> Okay.
All right. Budget and finance committee. You got anything? Okay. I don't either. Building committee. EMS committee. being that we have one of our What's that? >> They're sitting back. >> I see that. That's what I'm gonna
>> Well, I don't have anything on just in case. Oh, >> just in case. >> Well, would you like to touch on some of the information that come out? >> Yes, please. >> You do that. I thought Yeah. >> Well, I can or I can call upon you to do it and I would appreciate if you come
forward. I can read it verbatim, but >> why don't you >> give us a short version of what what you're thinking. Did you read Did you guys receive a a secondary email in response to Tina and I's questions? Have you guys received anything? >> I would have to believe I did.
>> Let me look here. >> Um yeah, I just was making sure that nothing else had been So basically, we just received some confirmation that you guys have wide uh range of authority to um tax the citizens for basically any anything
you want. um including EMS. Um we do have some questions regarding the tax. Um what was it? Uh the what was that group? Tina, where am I at? The
tax uh taxing district. >> Sorry. >> Special taxing district. >> Special taxing district. We have a couple questions on that. that would make if if those questions come back and um allow us to stay independent and not
owned by the taxing district. Um so Hoffman would still hold their ambulance Ashby and and uh Lake Region. We would likely look into a partnership and doing a taxing district for a for maybe like a a stream funding stream versus just
asking for money. It just I think it would shore everything up a little bit. Um but um me talking on behalf of just Lake Region, um thank you guys for the continued support. Um I don't think
there's a whole lot of uh boards working with their current EMS providers in their in their area like you guys are. Um and people around us are are watching us and looking at us. Um and things are moving forward. I think this is a really really good plan that we have moving
forward and how to keep these organizations uh whole um and keep the cost of EMS down at a relatively low price. So can't thank you guys enough for your support and um moving forward with some of these projects. And I I
think just just a little bit more background what Eric's alluding to and Bill. Um so Senator Rasmmanson has been a part of a conversation around the state pilot project as well as what we're trying to kind of right now
brainstorm on how Grand County can continue the program in the future once the state pilot has ended. Um, so we reached out to Senator Rasmmanson with a bunch of questions and his legal team is looking into some of those questions. The committee itself hasn't met. There's
no like hard detailed plan in place. We're just researching information so we can meet and put some um thoughts on paper about you know the future and what what it might look like after the state
pilot project sunsets. So, this is um all just information gathering utilizing the resource with Senator Asperson's legal team on some of these questions on um what levy dollars could be used for and and Chad, our county auditor, has been invi was invited to our last
committee meeting and we'll, you know, keep invi inviting him to make sure everybody's on the same page. No decisions have been made or anything like that. It's just information gathering. Um trying to be proactive and and look at potential solutions again
for the future when that state pilot project sunsets >> special taxing district. Are we talking about an intracount or intercount? >> And and that's like Tina said this there's there's just um ideas out there.
We're talking about things how would this vest form? Is this something that, you know, I don't know if the city of Hoffman would want to join it or Lake Region, the the talk that I feel that's potentially if it's legal would be a great asset to our our EMS community and
community there's other things that that could that would improve um if we move into, you know, Ottertell County and and Douglas County with Ashby and and Hop, but it's it's a way it's a ways out there yet. I mean, we're we're talking
27, 28, 29 maybe. Um, just trying to get all the information together. Um, the the group of us has lots of questions um and and ideas of, you know, once this sun sets, how do we continue offering that high level of care to the
communities and that's basically where we're at. >> But you're not talking about setting up a special district that's solely within Grant County. >> Um, not at this point. No. No. That's just options and and we're getting legal clarification if it's even doable. Um
and and yeah, so there's no decisions being made at all. >> If you have Senator Aspenson in there, if it's not doable, I mean it they don't have to reinvent the wheel. Water sheds are already doing it. So basically what what what I wanted and what a few other positions other but is make sure that we
have the right legal team telling us if this is stable what are what can we what can we can it be like basically I think the biggest thing that I've heard in all these conversations is a lot of times you guys are going to get information from different counties and
different entities and they're going to tell you what their failing service is doing to run a service and that's not what we want, right? We want to figure out what worked for us and and what works, not well, this is what we're doing and we're really struggling to get
people, you know, that's not what we want. We don't want to go off of what's failing. We want to figure out what can work for us and and we have a model currently that is working for us and we want to continue that and we just want to make sure everything's done right. But I've heard a lot from people from
different well this is what we're doing and it's and it's not doing you know these people aren't doing well or this is how they do it. I'm like well they can't seem to make call you know they're calling for backup. We don't want you know we don't want that issue here. We
we aren't up to work. So just don't get tied into listening to somebody tell you that you should run it like a failing service. That's not what we want. Again, as a member of the EMS committee, we got to get ahead of these because we don't know where the sprint car uh program is
headed and whether we can even keep these vehicles. And so, there's a lot of unanswered questions, let alone, you know, the special taxing district and then taxing townships outside of our, you know, our county level here. So there's there again, you know, I think
with with Senator Asterson involved and things like that, I think we can we can get some well-rounded discussion and movement down at the state level. But I think this is, you know, I read articles and talked to other leaders across the country about where EMS is going. Um,
everybody's struggling, um, work forces and things like that. Um, but nobody really has a good plan. And I think where we're at today, frankly, is we have we're starting to work on plants before all of a sudden the system breaks down. And that's the last place you want
to be is our system broke and now we got to refix it. If we're we're small enough, then we can shift and and do things on a on a quick basis, but we have to have a bunch of people involved and and have that same vision uh moving forward. And I think we're at that. Um,
I don't think the county's board members are working closely enough with other other entities like they you guys are. Um, so that's that's what we want to say is all of us on the same page and long-term goals. Um, and and to to keep
cost down is all of a sudden if things break down and then you start with the finances, it's going to be a huge amount to get that to where it needs to be. we just keep chipping away and and understanding the needs and not the wants, we'll be okay.
Thank you. Appreciate that. Anybody got anything else there? I hope I'm done. How about personnel? >> Everything we've met about has been brought to the board. We've got some stuff to meet about, but we haven't met about it yet.
>> Okay. Now we're good with the highway committee public safety meeting after this meeting. Okay. Waste. We just passed what we just talked about.
>> Okay. Strategic planning and haven't met for a while. >> Okay. Verizon public health. No, that looks like you're at the last meeting. Okay.
and Western Prairie Human Services. But we did uh pass that $15,000 for a consultant perhap you guys got Yep. we move forward with
Traverse and and again, you know, we're talking to a consultant actually passed to be able to, you know, >> sign the contract. >> Yep. Okay. So, that's a done deal moving forward. So, I guess that's about the only thing we got going on other than
February 5. Did you guys see the email from our director about we're we're inviting Senator Aspen there? Did you see all of that? Okay. and he will be I can look back on it but he will be in out right here
on I think it's like 3 to 5:30 or 3:30 to 5 5:00 or whatever that time frame is and that's on the 5th correct so that I believe >> yeah I think >> and that time is reserved for social services issues okay
>> going back to public safety are all the city contract s negotiated and signed. >> They are not currently all signed. We we met with Herman last week and they only had three of the
five there. So they I believe they tabled it again. >> Okay. Like his side. They're on board. >> Okay. Any got anything else? >> No, sir. >> We're all good. Anything else for the
greater good of Grant County hearing? None. I'll adjourn at 9:5 what? 4. I know what that is. Thank