Were you going to try to sneak back there? >> I was hoping maybe just hide in the back, but >> such I'm on a trial here when it comes to sit. It's better than the other room upstairs or that one's really like set like a trial room almost. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get started.
>> Okay. Well, morning guys. >> Morning. >> So, over the last couple of months, maybe a couple more than that. Uh there's always been talks of all these different ordinances that the environmental service offices manages and administers and all those kinds of things. And in a minute, you'll see they
range from ones in the mid to late 70s to just last year and dates. So, they're kind of all over the place. Um, I think there's almost a dozen of them. Remember, those are just the ones that we administered. There is a pile of other ones that are administered through
other offices as well. Um, but the first document I want to look at with you guys quick is kind of just a background on kind of how we do ordinances in our office. May not be how everybody does them, but this is kind of how we've done them and it seems to work pretty well. So, it's called that ordinance adoption
or amendment process sheet. Um there is five little buckets and the first one is kind of why why are we doing them one you guys tell us we have to have one you say there's this issue and we need to do something about it so we do it or uh the other two are kind of state more or
something at the state level is new like cannabis or something changes at the state level and now we have to make changes to our existing organic citizens. Uh the last reason is our stuff gets old. Uh things from the mid70s, mid 80s, early 90s usually pretty outdated by now. They're 30, 40
years old. So they're kind of in need of some updating and some work. We use a fancy train called modernization because it just sounds really good. But uh so typically what happens is uh Ruben and I take the first crack at it. So we try and keep you guys and the planning
commission having to sludge through the nitty pretty fine detail stuff right away. So what we do is we gather all these different ordinances from other counties, from the state models, from all these places and we take ours and we take what ours is and what those are and
mash them together to come up with an updated one that includes all the new changes if that's why we did them or the new way to look so that it's easier to find things in the ordinance. Think of the Shorland one. The Shorland one will be the one I reference a lot because it is our most recent one that we have
really set up to be very user friendly for us as staff but also it's pretty easy for somebody at the public as well. You want to know about A, B, C or D, you just look at the table and then pretty flows pretty well. So that's usually what we do. We stack that all up. We get
a nice pretty good draft and then what we do is we have what we call information meetings with our planning commission. They're public, but they're not because they're really just a work session like this where you're just kind of going through section by section, line by line, going, "Okay, this is what it was. This is what it is." There's
either no change or this minor change or this is a major change. We need to make sure we call this out at like our official public meeting when we get that far. But usually, this is where we just go back and forth and back and forth for a while. And this may be, you know, two, three, four, five meetings depending on the topic. Like shoreline took us quite
a long time because the thing is it's 80 pages long. So we had to go through it in chunks or it would have took you you know 8 10 12 hours to go through that whole thing line by line. So we would took it in you know section one through three 3 through five. We broke it down and then some of them sections are
pretty uh heavy with statute stuff. So then we really had to slow it down. We made sure we understood it and made sure the pack understood it and then made sure we could communicate that to the public and what that means. So that's the one where we spend a lot of time and that's with ordinances takes a very long
time to do anything. Um, so usually what happen is then we'll go back and forth, make all those changes, and once we think we have a really good draft, what we'll do, depending on if it is, if it's pretty straightforward, I'll just shoot it over to Justin and say, "Hey, can you give this a quick review to make sure
there's nothing glaring that we miss, if it's more like shoreline where it's very ordinance specific or it's very statute specific on things that aren't really his wheelhouse, he suggests that we go through some outside attorneys or outside lawyers who specialize in environmental, who specialize in in solid waste or who specialize in
whatever that topic is to review those just to make sure we cover all of our bases and that's what we did with Shorland. We had somebody who does all that all day every day review the thing from start to finish and then the ones coming forward there'll be a couple of them that we maybe have to see but I'll
kind of use the pack and use Justin say okay which of these do you think we need to seek somebody else because he's ultimately the best knowledge on that one for us. So then what happens is we hold a public meeting as a planning commission. We say okay we've now made all these changes and we have this
updated one. This is the pretty much final draft except for now we need some public input. Then we host a public meeting and then depending on what we get for public input depends on the outcome. If we get people there and there's all kinds of confusion or all kinds of questions we didn't think about or things we didn't see, it will go back
to that review process and we'll make changes and keep doing that over and over again. or if it's decided, hey, this is not going to work. We can't approve this. They don't approve it or they go to the next one. If they say, yep, now we can recommend this, go to the county board for you guys to now
consider it. Now, the process kind of goes again where you guys hold your side of the public meeting. So, it's a second opportunity for the public again to comment, to voice your opinion on whatever it is and say, okay, there there's also three options there. Again, you guys can say, okay, there's enough
public outreach here, enough questions. you guys need to go back as a planning commission and I'll review it again, try again. This this still isn't quite right. Or you guys say, "Nope, we don't agree. This is it. We're not approving that." Or you guys approve it. And we go through the next process. Typically, we try to not have to repeat
public meetings at the planning commission more than a couple of times because by then we must not be doing something quite right by the third or fourth or fifth one. And then for you guys, we try and do it where it's only one or two at the most if we say forgot something pretty crazy. But we usually
have it pretty streamlined to where by the time it gets to the planning commission to you guys it is as close to a final copy with final dates and final everything as we can get and then once we get public comment make sure we haven't you know we haven't thought about those things that's when we kick
it back and redo it and read. So then after that what we'll do a lot of times too is we have to get state sign off on some of these like we had to send to DNR to sign off or with some of the buffer stuff we'll have to go through Bowser and then through solid waste there's
some MPCA comments that they like to make so we have to go through those pieces but those a lot of times can be kind of almost in tandem with the county board process or as the board is going to review this at whenever the next meeting that's when the state has their opportunity to review and then once It's made it through all
those reviews. Then it gets recorded at the county reporters office and put in the D book and and we roll from there and away we go. So I wanted to lay the process out for all of you so you guys kind of know, but just so you know exactly how we have
traditionally rolled with this and how I think we're going to continue to roll. We're going to really try and follow the process so that there's not a bunch of jumping and skipping. Makes it a lot easier for us. The only thing is it takes quite a long time. You know, high commission meets once a month. You guys
meet twice a month. And to try and time out all those all the time sometimes gets to be where you're going to have to wait two or three or four weeks or a month or two months and we get to those moves. And once we get more more vision, more help, all those things, it it delays it,
but for good reason, you know. So, do you have questions on how we're the process we do? Okay. The next piece is the priority list, which back up for a second. >> Yeah. So I don't have something specific
at all, but if there's something that's got some political ramification, sensitive not in I don't know what the right word I'm looking for, but anyway, if it's within the planning advisory commission and you
don't get a full consensus or a majority, do you bring it then to the board with a 32 load or do you >> like how does it how does that work? And so typically, so Ruben and I do a very good job of educating our planning
commission, I think, so that they are very confident in the vote they're going to make. Uh, typically they all vote together there. Yes, there's times where they'll vote, you know, 32 or 41 or but then there's usually six of them. Right now there's only five. We still got that
one opening, but so usually there's six. So if it say was split, we wouldn't bring it. Um, otherwise we operate like you guys. the majority is what the majority is and that's where we go. If it's a 32 or 42 or whatever it is, that's what we're doing. So, but we, you
know, take their voice concerns and make sure we have addressed those in whatever the revision is or if there the other four don't see their concerns as valid or that we did address we are moving forward otherwise they kind of stall out >> and I would hope if it's like a
sensitive issue we'd have Justin involved too who would provide some guidance as well on the legalities and authorities >> and we'll probably have like a work session like this on some of these things that are you know been say it's a more controversial about it.
>> If it's a hot button issue like what we had >> on the south end, we may just not go to the planning advisory. >> Uh legally, we've been advised twice not to do that anymore because that's what the courts have called on skipping our
process, which is up to you guys how you roll with that. But that's kind of where we got a little bit of dinged the last time is to go through the planning advisory and then to you guys. But So what's the reason for that? Citizen input or what? >> Yeah. And because we have a process set
up. So then you're kind of getting D for not following the process you have set up. >> Protocol. >> Yeah. But they are the planning advisory portion is an advisory. They're not making a final decision. That's your guys's role. >> They make recommendations.
>> Yes. They recommend permits to you or ordinances or Yeah. I'm going to go through this priority list here. Um, so what I did is went through all the different ordinances that we have that we either are responsible for or are kind of the m one
of the major players in. So if there was revision, we would kind of be the ones doing it. Um, you'll notice there's kind of four colors, green, blue, orange, and then white or no color. Those kind of correspond to timeline. Um the green is kind of this year's stuff. So this year
we are working on the buffer law one. So I know all of you but the ditches got transferred to VOU a while ago here and then in the 24 session and in the 25 they made some changes on timelines for how noticing happens with the buffer law
which affects a lot of the highway stuff. And then some of what we do for shoreland cuz the ones on the lakes are all covered under shoreland but the noticing timeline is in that ordinance. So there's some legal things there that uh the border laws bowser would like us
to update within the next year. And Aaron at highway had already done threequarters of all that work already when they were transferring the ditches. So he got it looking the same as the shoreline one is. So that's our other big thing is trying to make all these ordinances look the same. So you can very easily fit through any number of
them. So Aaron did a bunch of the work there and now we'll do is add in those statute changes which they're basically just timing. Instead of 45 days, I think one is now 30 and one was 30 and now is 60. So it's very minimal but once we made those then it'll go through that
process. Uh the second one is a brand new one. And so what we did is so every year or two we end up having to do all the bylaws for the pack or for the BOA or adjustment. And what I did is reached out to solar and said hey what do you
guys have for these cuz ours are pretty dated and uh overwhelmingly half them said we actually don't have bylaws anymore. We went to like a land administration ordinance. So basically lays out what those bylaws did but more in an ordinance style. So it's much easier to understand what that is. and
then it change. So you don't have to crack open the bylaws or pass bylaws every January or all these extra steps that are kind of things that never change or rarely change. So what Ruben and I did is have drafted a we called it a planning and zoning administrative
ordinance. So it's just those bylaws for the planning commission and the VA matched into one ordinance. It's really pretty dry. It's very just here's what is the pack, here's what VA is, here's what the roles are, here's
what happens if this is appealed or this is approved or what the steps are. It's it's dozen pages, maybe 10 pages. So, pretty straightforward. But when we were trying to update our bylaws, we realized that this was more the route. The folks around us who had a lot more shoreline
permits than we do have gone. So, we're trying to kind of be a little bit as a group doing them. And it works out a lot better, Ruben. I think so. That one will probably go into the pack in June. We'll have a public meeting on that one. But
so that's for this year. That's farring. No other changes that all of a sudden pop up. So, uh, next year we are hoping to do that's the orange is all the solid waste stuff. So, I've come a couple of times and talked about all the different solid waste changes we're trying to
make. And the deal with that is the PCA has called it out in our tenure plan. I've called it out at different times. Different board members have called it out at different times. Our broadway funds, as you can see, are from 73 and 84. So, those are quite dated and there's a lot of things that have
changed in those. And a couple of counties around us have made some recent updates to theirs. Drivers County being the one for this year and theirs is pretty similar to ours because they don't have like us the facilities and all that other stuff. They just have their recycling center. Everything else goes out. So, we'll kind of use theirs
as a model and a couple others from PCA has a kind of a template of sorts to use. But, so the hope is to spend all of 27 getting that ironed out and whatever part of 26 we end up left after we finish the ones we do this year to do those. helps that when we make our
program changes for 28 January 1, the ordinance is also at the same time done and off the races. Uh for 28, our hope is to take we have four of them that kind of cover the same kind of stuff either related to power or
utilities or things like that. So they are public utilities, cell tower, wind and solar. So counties like Stevens County took and put all theirs together in one. Travers has a wind by itself. They recently did theirs. A couple other companies have updated their wind or
solar. So, my idea and plan is to kind of do what Stephen's kind of did. Take and put all those into one because they all kind of go together and then add in anything that you, you know, we've seen recently in the news like a data center or things that are of that kind of nature. So
28 looks to be kind of when that would happen if you know everything else lines up, which I think the things before 28 will line up just fine. 28 is where we are going to see a lot of how long that's going to take. It could take us just a year to get all four of those. It could take a little longer depending on
how we sort through and how much back and forth there is. But the other ones I think are going to be a lot more straightforward. And then after that, it's kind of uh whatever time allows or if statutes change because we just did cannabis,
both of those in 24 and 25. Shorland was just under 25, but we just got noticed from DNR that they are updating public waters in Grant County here in May. So once they make those changes, we will then have to crack open shoreline again to remove ones that need to come off and
add ones that need to get added. So that will throw some timing mixing there, but that should be very minor changes. It shouldn't take group and I very long to do those. But again, now we have to notice to do both meetings and we got a notice to do it back, notice to do a board, notice to DNR to review. So
it does take quite some time. Um, the other major one you'll see is from 94, which is the flood plane one. That one is waiting on DNR. We are waiting for them to give us some nice updated maps like they've done in the counties around, but we are not on their list
yet. So once they tell us they're doing that, then we can go from there. >> Mr. Chair, I got a question. So with the public waters inventory? >> Yep. >> Okay. Do we have to have a hearing when you know if there's any change? >> Correct. They'll have the hearings where
they ask for input and then I think they have another hearing where they ask for here's the changes, here's where we're at, here's what we're directing. That's where the county comment, we comment, public comments, everybody does. Okay. >> And once all of that is played out, that's when we can do our ordinance. So,
timing wise, I don't depends how long it takes DNR to do their review plan. Could be a couple months, could be six months, could be a year, right? So it could be this year still or early next would be my bet is when we'd start. >> And Reed, I got a question for you.
Who's what counties are done with the public? >> Douglas just had their public comment. Uh Douglas. >> Okay. >> Closest to us. They're done, I think, a dozen of them now. So we're not the first, but we're not towards the end either. We're kind of in the middle there. They're kind of going alphabetical
for the most part. There's some other odds and end ones. Like there's a couple cards that didn't have any lakes. There's four or five of those. So, they did those first since they were pretty easy. >> Folks like Ottertale will be towards the end because they have just so many. They want to make sure they have process down and everything.
>> So, Reed, what are they all looking at? >> Uh, for public water stuff. So, in Grant County, we have four lakes or wetlands that have been drained since the mid 80s. So, those should have come off the list 40 years ago. Even DNR when we do our ordinance says, "Hey, these ones are
listed but don't need to be enforced for anything because they'll come off." Uh, right now a lot of it is streams that have the required drainage area. So, if it drains two square miles, that's technically public water. That's one of the big ones they're looking for. A lot of them are trout streams up north. So,
but most of it was run by the legislator who said, "Hey, this hasn't been touched since the mid70s, late '7s. Needs to get updated." It was not a DNR le thing. They did not really want to do it, but they got all told. >> How do they go about doing that?
>> Uh, they look at all kinds of aerial imagery from way back when to now. Do a bunch of field verifications. They talk to locals like us. They talk to soil and water offices. They get public input. So, it's quite the deal, but it'll be
good, I think, once it's done because just for us, we'll have three, four of them that can finally come off, but we don't have to have on anymore. Um, I have a feeling there'll be a couple stream reaches here that get added or change the classifications. Maybe just depends what DNR wants to do.
>> It'll stay on a survey versus a commissioner DNR commissioner's report. So, so the OWS we can revisit. >> Yes. Those four that would come off, they're don't even have any water at all. They're there's no water in them, no drops, not even the most of our in
farm fields just been farmed for the last 30, 40 years. >> Okay. So, it' be good to get those off, but >> they were like FWS probably, right? >> Some of them. And there's a couple of them that are legitimate lakes that are just not there anymore. They're believed that have been for a while. Um
the Douglas County, I think they added four or five and removed three, I think. So, it was nothing too crazy, but So, the rest of the ordinances will kind of just filter in as time allows or as, you know, a statute changes. But we're
really trying to get some of those first couple of ones like the solid waste ones and then all those utilities wind and solar and cell towers kind of match into one. I think that would make life a lot easier for Ruben and I to administer. We would be able to use one ordinance to do
those instead of having to scour the four of them to try and figure out which applies or if it applies versus now we just go A to B. Yep, it applies. Nope, it doesn't. be much easier for the public to know. And the reason I delayed the that
combination one is because all the changes we're making to solve base and then the wind and solar are both uh solar was in 21. So that was pretty recent. Uh wind was in 2009, so 15 years ago or so. It it's not old, but it's not
new. It's kind of somewhere in that middle ground. So now the counties around us have all kind of redid their winged with all the recyc. So the time will be good once we get through some of these other hurdles. So >> the other question
>> and I Okay, I would ask that the wind um the wind ordinance be bumped up that chain. I was here to you guys three years ago and asked for it to be amended and I I believe the at the end it was like well we knew that Travers and
Stevens County were in the process of updating theirs and instead of you know creating our own like well let's just wait and see what they do we'll let them do the work and then we can um work off theirs and now theirs have both been
adopted and um so I think currently I know when you said like 2009 9 is not that old for this. It is because um in 2009 they were putting up 400 foot towers. Now they're putting up 800T
towers. And so the setbacks are not they are not protecting land owners um residents um towns. Um, if you're putting up a I actually did a little
math of so this is this is my house and right now the setback in Gr County is 750 ft that somebody could put a tower up. So the land owner here could come and put a tower up in this field that's 800 ft tall that's going to hit my house
if it were fall. So, it's just it's not that's I mean I could give an two-hour long presentation on um why it's there's a lot of issues with our court ordinance and it's not that it's it's wrong. It's just outdated
for you know what they're doing now. They're they're massive. So, and also another big thing is the decommissioning. Um, your ordinance is very basic when it comes to that and I know like I did those towers go up in 2009 out by
>> they were up in 2006. So they were put up before they even required any permitting at all. >> Oh. >> So that was permitted for them. They were permitted for the substation piece under the public utilities mer. So they didn't need anything. Uh, and
I've been in talks with the folks who own that for the last 18 months or so. and they have a kind of a plan, but they're still going back and forth from back and for limbo land on what they're going to do. >> Right. And that's why I think it's important that you get it amended or put
a moratorum in place so that if they do take them down, decommission them, or if they want to put up bigger ones, the people around that area are protected because right now there's a lot of homes that are are pretty darn close to those
turbons. So, >> so Charity, I got a question. Did you guys do something on a township level for an ordinance that superseded ours? Have you done any of that? >> Not that I'm aware of. I'm not on the township board, but >> Okay. >> Boon is and I No, I don't.
>> How about like Logan Township? What have they done out there? >> I I have no I don't know. >> Okay, that's in Grant County, but none that I know of. No townships I know of have any other Okay. Not that I'm aware of, but >> and Cherry makes a good point. I don't
think she's wrong at all. No, I just think the problem is timing. If ordinances was the only thing in my job to do all day every day, we could do a lot of them at a time. But all of you know that's not the only thing Ruben and I do right now. Reuben's not in the office almost at all. He's doing all the
stuffakes, all the show stuff. I'm attending all the other meetings and I'm doing kind of similar things. Right now, we have a couple CUPs. So, like there's a whole bunch of other stuff that we do that just doesn't allow for that kind of time wise. That's the hardest part. And you can hire these things out, but that
costs a lot of money, a lot of time, and now you're taking a lot of that control out of it that if you don't get what you want out of it, now you either have to spend that same time redoing all what they just did, you just paid for, or you didn't write it, so now you don't know it. So, that's the whole reason we did
that one in house. And it took us, you know, two and a half years. It took forever. But that so that Ruben and I really know that ordinance front to back, cover to cover. >> So the clean energy man mandate by
Cordell 40, are you getting much guidance and how you think that's going to affect us? >> Nope. On that part, >> is that coming from like the DOE or what, Ken? Well, it's in Minnesota this
clean energy deadline requires a portion through the utilities which is >> we wouldn't do so much since we're don't have any like utilities but like autotail power you'll notice a bunch of their subisions have got solar panels frequently that's their part that
they're trying to meet is they got to have so much I think it's 5% >> really power companies can buy their power >> yeah they have to buy so much and that's where they a lot of them have been putting up their own solar so in January We just said sweep them to put their solar on the back side of their uh
subsition. There'll be a couple more of those. I have a feeling it's >> Do you guys ever put like subcommittees together to help work on ordinances? >> We could. That's primarily the role of the planning commissioner. There's a
representative from each district of the commissioners plus the board chairman. So we could or if we did certainformational ones we could invite folks to do it. It always ends up being a lot of these subs we have to get somebody to go buy to be on them and sometimes it's quite difficult to get
people to volunteer that time to do that. >> Yeah. >> Would you guys consider putting a moratorum on that ordinance until you can get one revised? >> Well, I think it's something to talk about. That's for sure.
I don't know what you guys think about it, but more importantly gains you a year. So you have a year and if there's already existing they're kind of grandfathered in with what they do to some extent. >> Well, not if they're >> depends what they change what they do, right?
>> Right now they don't >> if they're changing the size or they're moving them then it's not >> then it's a different story. But >> yeah, if they're just like changing out the blades or something then it's they don't have to get a permit or go through anything. It's >> considered maintenance. Yeah. But um but
if they're going to move them or make them larger, even a little bit larger, they have to go through the permitting process. A lot like those ones have to go through the PUC first before they don't get to us. So
or in tandem when they go through us, they go to the commission, too. So, >> and I think sometimes being you have to be a little proactive because I I watched this go down in Stevens and Travers and it created a lot of
controversy and it um it just it wasn't good. It's still not good. Um and I think sometime like and it kind in their defense it just kind of popped up, right? all these wind companies came into town and nobody was prepared for it. And they're looking at their
ordinance saying, "Oh my gosh, like we have to, you know, change this." And I'm not aware of any other projects coming into Grant County, but um that could change this afternoon. So, um I do think you need to be proactive and um
um >> I got a question for you. So your concerns, do you find it relates more to your business model and obviously you have an airplane in the air versus someone that
>> that's let me finish my question >> and I know you you've studied it but does it more apply to just the general people because you referenced you know in the field and close to the farmstead. So could there be 20 people here with your concerns? Oh yeah. Yeah. It should
be the whole county should be concerned if they if they live here. I I would be concerned. Um, you know, you think about the I always think about the the the older lady who had the 5 acre homestead
out in the middle of the field and she's got land all around her that's farmed and she doesn't really have a voice with the way our ordinance is written. If that land owner that farms that field wants to put a turban up and it's, you know, there's shadow in her yard, she
can hear it. She doesn't she doesn't have a say there. They can just put it up. And um those are the people that I think are always, you know, on the short end of the stick and need to be protected. And um
I mean that and that's one of of many um instances where um I also think there's there's no um like if there was an accident or if like one of the workers was going up and had a heart attack up
there or there was a fire or a lightning strike. Currently with your ordinance there's there's no guidance for the fire departments. There's no I don't think the local fire departments would know I mean obviously they could use common sense but I don't think there's there
should be a formal plan in place of to what the wind um company should give these fire departments to help them um handle any emergency situation. >> They had when they built those ones on 59 they had to train a fire department
how to react in the event of an emergency. >> Right. And so, >> so their insurance company's not going to let them not have somebody within responsibility. >> I I've talked to some of the the actually the fire chief in Hoffman and he >> and they didn't do it. They had Barry. >> Oh, I did.
>> Okay. We're going to stop now because 901, but uh I think this is a issue that should be probably put on a full work session for 30 minutes. Terry, you can come and we can discuss this further. read you and come back because I think
it is important to uh to be looking at this. Okay. And uh so with that I'll call the meeting to order. It's 902 the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. All right. So, let's see.
We we do have a public comment uh portion here. Does anybody from the public want to say anything about anything? Okay. None of that. Um approval of the agenda. If there's no additions, I will make
that motion. Mr. Chair, >> Bill made the motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Troy. Uh, any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Both. Motion carried. Approval of the
meeting minutes. Motion to approve the minutes. >> Okay, Ken made a motion to approve the minute. Do we have a second? >> All second. Royal seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Oppose. Same
sign. Motion carried. Approval of the warmth. Well, we're at public hearing. I'll make a motion to approve the warrant. Okay. Um, any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I opposed. >> Okay. Uh we have a public hearing now a liquor license application by Black Silo LLC. So we got a like 15 minutes off here. Do
we got to kind of wait on that? So >> you should have public notice that was in the packet if you want to read that. Okay. Notice the public hearing. Didn't know I had to read the name. See what we can do here. The Grand County Board of Commissioners
shall conduct a public hearing to approve the application from Black Silos LL for an offsale retail license on Tuesday, May 19th, 2026 at 9:05 a.m. as part of the Grant County Board of
Commissioner meetings. Public hearing will be held at the Grant County Office Building at 15 Central Avenue, North Ela Lake, Minnesota, 56531, first floor community room. All interested persons are invited to attend
this public hearing. Are >> you here for you want to introduce yourself? >> Yeah. I'm Janna. I am a co-owner of Black Silos in Wendell, Minnesota. You know the commissioners? Probably not. >> I don't.
>> I'm Dwight Walv on the Ashby District 2 township township chairman. Troy Johnson. Uh Barrett, the city of Barrett, Lean, Erdall, Sanford, and El Lake Townships.
>> Johnson district three, Hoffman, Elkquake, and Land. Commissioner Bill Levali, District 4, City of Lake. >> And I'm Doyle Spear, District 5. I got
the rest of the Got eight of the 16 townships. >> Do you want to talk a little bit about maybe what your business is? Sure. And then because there's no other members of the public here to to to discuss it and then if Chad has anything he'd like to
add and then Okay. I'd be happy to. So, Black Silos um started out as a unique Airbnb. We have two um concrete stage silos we turned into lodging sites and um in addition, we turned a rain bin into a bath house and one into a
specific boutique merchandise that you can get with our logo on it. Um, additionally, we have a barn that is um being used as a very small venue um under 100 people. And so with that, we had um been licensed through the state
to um have lodging and based on that lodging, we were anticipating getting an onsale license, but uh just based on statute, it turned into an offsale. So we're really looking to um offer but control the purchase of liquor on a property for
those events. So very small events. Um we are not looking to have you know a a set schedule 9 to5 liquor store but um during the events or by women only um this is a a part-time gig for us I guess you would say. Um my husband and I both
have full-time jobs in Verdice Falls. So, um, just looking to have a variety of things to offer our guests when they're on site. >> Let's cl have any questions. >> Chad, do you maybe want to talk about the process a little bit that you've been involved with that you've reviewed
it just? Well, >> it started off as a onsale license, um, which is not near the complexity of an offsale license. Um and for whatever reason when you met with the state they said no
um they recommended to play for off sale which is now involved you know of course brought to you the the setting of a fee first of all because we didn't have one and second uh secondary the uh the approval of the township in which the facility in the black side was located
um came with a bunch of other criteria as far as proximity to towns and other liquor stores and so on so forth. Guess at the end of the day, you're here today. Um you met all those requirements. In front of you is the
application, the insurance, and then the license if the county board were to approve this or are to approve it. You would sign chairman sign license uh coordinator would test and then you bring that back to our office. We set up
the state for um AG to sign off on them and get should get a license. So eventually you'll probably get a license >> and and GR the sheriff has to review it as well as the attorney
>> sheriff and the attorney of both sid have to go through this every year. Uh, no. This is the first time you make the application. From now on out, it's a renewal. It's just much simpler. >> Yeah. Much like the golf course. Same thing. Correct.
>> Well, do we have to wait till 9:15 or we just call for a motion? >> That is >> You should You should wait. It was advertised as till 9:20. >> A second, too. So, we had been working with Jenna and Tom for a little while
here on that site. Um, originally we they weren't really sure how big or how far they were going to go. So, we kind of did it as a we permit some septic stuff in some buildings because they are within Lake Shore of Stony Brook Lake. So, we did that part and now with the liquor license, uh, next month it'll go
with our planning commission for like a full CP for the whole event and the liquor and all that stuff. But so we'll have them there and they'll kind of get the same idea and we'll go through those steps too. But our piece was to come after this to make sure this call went
through before we it's kind of a leftover deal from Greg running some stuff before that we're work our way through the last. >> So this is traditionally just an off sale. It isn't like a setup license or anything like that. You can't bring
booze there. you can you buy there and use and whatever and you go from there. >> There are many many different types of licenses. >> Yes, that's why I'm bringing this up. Used to be like a lot of times there was setup licenses. So then they could sell 32 beer and if you brought a jug or a
bottle, right? So but this is just offset. Correct. The way it was described to me from the state um was that um we are our license for lodging is a hotel um but and that which is interesting because I mean
we're not near a hotel but they didn't really have another category because it's unique. So um we have two lodging sites in order to get in bond sale with the department of gambling and liquor at the state. It we have to have five places to sleep. And so that was that
they don't consider us a hotel in that department state. So she suggested we go for offsale. However, because it is our homestead, we we can give the permission for people to consume it there. So that is that is up to us. We are insured for that. Um but I would hand it to the
customer in a container I received it in. What and they can be allowed to consume it on the property. So the difference is open versus closed is how it was described to me. >> I got one more question. Mr. Chair, so you allow campers to be set up where if
somebody wants to pull a camper in there and you know like a wedding venue and they want to stay overnight and does that constitute a bedroom too or a bed? >> I that's a great question. I'm I'm not sure. I've been trying to define some statutes myself through the process. It
does not clear to me. Um we do have one poke up for a camper should someone want to stay. Yeah, >> make a share of myself detained. You know, there's a lot of, you know, 20, 30 foot fish houses that people probably would use for something like that. >> Yeah. >> So, you just bringing out in the public
area, you know what I mean? Could be an option at some point for, you know, if it was another lodging spot. >> The township suggested we hauling three more bins and putting CS or um so that was the the idea there. Everybody's got a lot of different ideas
of what that constitutes. We don't we don't know. We don't have running water in them, you know. We have the bath house is completely separate. So just just sleeping arrangements. >> Well, you got a lot of land out there to uh expand when you want to down the road. >> Yeah, 20 acres. So we could we could
haul in some more bins for sure. Make use of those old bins. We like to do that. >> I was wrong. It doesn't say on the notice of an ending time. So whatever you want. Okay. Okay. Well, uh, I guess I'll call for a motion then, uh, for
the, uh, cross sale liquor license application. I'll make a motion to approve it. >> Okay. Troy makes a motion. We have a second. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. Doyle second it. Uh, any further discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the question. All in favor say I.
>> I. Opposed. Motion carried. There you go. >> Thank you. >> Good luck. >> Good luck. We want to look into a manual out there because when you get into camping definitely want to look into that before you do it
>> procedure. pointers we can get. So, thank you very much. >> Nice meeting you all. >> I know. >> That's a nice spot she's got out there. >> I've been there many times. >> Is it north? >> Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah, it's uh north of Lightning
Lake. Uh maybe a mile by Stony Brook. >> Yeah. >> To the west of Stony Brook. >> Yeah. The way it looked there was a guy living up there. Can't remember his last name. Wait, where Brad Bang used to
live? >> No, no, Bang was on the east side of Stony Brook. This is on the side. >> It's It's very >> You're sitting up high. You can you can see over the lake. >> Ned Davis lived there. If you
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. But before before Ned, >> it was a Ted. Ted somebody. Kazinski. >> Holy. All right. You know how was he? >> Yeah. >> Is Ned Ned, he still >> I don't know. I think he he was a
manager when the elevator >> Jet live there, too. What was that? >> Might as well. >> Did there Well, I don't anticipate there. >> I think it's a good gig. It's another business that that that drags people
into the community and once they get a taste to Grand County and see how this is out here, I think people are going to that's the only way to do it. >> Get businesses someone somewhat like that >> wedding venues and
you know >> maybe they could do a senior prom out there or something. >> That's okay. We'll give it to you. It's a little cold. That's cool. >> Danny, your grandson eighth grader or ninth grader, >> right?
>> Yeah. Is their season winding down? >> Yeah, they have rough season kind of. >> Yeah, seventh eighth graders. We we've done okay. Uh well, we're going to Benaska today for the last game of
the year or so. Yeah, but it was cold. It was cold in Evansville last night. Yeah, that was terrible. But uh So then you know West Central's coming up to Ashby on Friday.
>> Sharpen your arrows. >> Yeah. Well, they need a little sharpening, but we were 0 and nine then we won six out of seven. >> Nice. >> The varsity and >> but they changed cultures here. >> Yeah. That's particular major.
>> Yeah. What happens? Yeah, maybe they do they do they have they got a quote actually the junior high coach ain't much but the varsity coach is pretty good. They got a girl beer
too. I was I was doing that for six hour the chairman today. That's all right. >> I noticed the scoreboard the other day Dwight. >> Oh yeah >> that's really nice. >> Yeah that's what they wanted to do. So, >> park.
>> Yeah. Oh, you're getting It's a dedicated park now. >> Oh my goodness. >> Well, yeah. At least they did it before you were dead. >> Well, that's what I said. Isn't the next step, guys?
Well, >> they know something we know. >> Have they been talking to my doctor? >> Thought they were bad at privacy. Okay, it's 9:20, Ashley. >> All right, so I have two things today.
The first is to issue um the new license bureau director as of June 1st, Mary with a credit card. Um so same standard limit um but to issue her credit card as she starts June 1st. So we thought we did that in process so maybe she can get
it by. >> Okay, we had that in the packet. So do we get a motion on that? Motion to approve, Mr. Chair and Bill made the motion. We have a second. >> Second. >> Second by Troy. Any further discussion?
Hearing none, I'll call the question. All in favor signify by saying I. I. >> I. Opposed. Same sign. Motion carried. >> All right. The second thing I have is as we're transitioning um with the new director, we need to take and with um
Don retire, we need to take Don off of the bank accounts. And so I Tina has a form that you would share you would sign as board chair um to take Don or move Don off the bank accounts um held by Grant County and then add Mary Suki to
the bank account so she could operate those accounts. >> Okay. Call for a motion on that. >> I'll make that motion for the request to remove and the question to add. >> Okay. Bill made the motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> I'll second it. Any further discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. Motion carried. >> All right, that's all I got. >> Okay, wait four minutes. That was way too fast. You have four minutes. >> I'm good. Bye. We can
I think we can go ahead and do that. >> Um, you should have in your packet the jet black proposal. Uh, as we were looking, we talked about the parking lots a little bit. Um, looking back through the history of some email traffic and stuff, Ashley was able to
pull up some things. It looks like in 24 the board decided to push the parking lots to 25. Obviously, we had the transition in 25 and we didn't have all the ducks in a row and whatnot. So, now we're into 26 and uh
this started a couple years ago. So, we just bringing this to try to do the seal coat and then restriping of the both the courthouse parking lot and this parking lot here. Um, so you have the number there 13
133. >> What's that? >> 13344. Yep. So, um, I did message the gentleman that gave the proposal and and he just said, "Let him know when when it's approved or
whatever, we can get it scheduled set up." Um, sounded like they could be pretty flexible with us. Um, so I guess that's the the main item here today. >> So, are both parking lots in pretty good shape? Um, there are some pretty good
size cracks in that in this courthouse parking lot that definitely need to be addressed. Um, this one's not as bad, but of course it's a little newer. Um, there are getting to be some pretty good size cracks out here though as well. So,
um, to get ahead of that, um, is a pretty big deal. Obviously, when we get the freezing and thawing and water in those holes, that's what makes it worse. But, um, it would be definitely good to get them both sealed up so that we get a few more get a few more years out of
them. >> Okay, Mr. Chair, I got a question. So, the cracks that are there, are they going to mill them and blow them out? >> Is that the plan? there that cleaning process I believe is what they they do
there. I I can't 100%. Um >> doesn't say that here. >> It doesn't say it. Um >> says hot rubber cracker. >> It does, but a lot of times it's better to mill them. So then you you you can actually put more >> that part. I I I'll have to verify on
that piece. I I can't say that for sure. This this estimate actually came from uh what they had proposed back in 24. Like he just updated that piece. So I was not privy to what they had all talked about previous. I just got the
new estimate from them. So >> well what we just asked if if what your question is there about well that's traditionally you know a better way >> or I'll ask. Yeah. And I I'll definitely
ask them about that. I don't know if that affects the number, you know, whether you just fill them or, you know, do that. But, uh, >> if they're wide enough and they take material, that's good. But if you're just marking them, they really don't do anything. You know, that they crack right through it.
>> Yeah. >> So, that was just a side. Go ahead, Troy. >> Can we ensure we get build separately for buildings? We'll be able to indirect cost report on this one.
>> Yep. Yeah, they're they're separated on the bid. It's just not clear which one is is which. And I did ask about that to verify to make sure that we weren't just talking about one parking lot and they charge us twice for it. So, they are both on there and we should
easily be able to get them separated costwise. >> That's why you see the >> Yeah. >> You know, two different >> Everything's twice. >> Yeah. Everything's twice. So we'll just have them >> done to clearly identify on your bill. >> Right. Courthouse. This is office
building. >> So under the line striping and payment markings, are we comfortable because it says they'll use the existing striping.
we're comfortable with. You know, you go to somebody's parking lot, you park, you're almost insured that the one next to you going to hit your door when they open it. And also the American the AEA requirements and we've had a law enforcement center build.
Do we want it the same or do we need to to look at that in total as far as what we want? >> Yeah. One chance to have a change. >> Yeah. And Kyle and I talked a little bit about that and and I guess that's, you know, kind of, you know, I'll take
feedback from you guys as well. They're not they're not the worst parking lots in the world. You know, they must have been, you can obviously see they've been changed from what the previous paint was. Um, if we want to go a little bit larger, I think we could accommodate that. It's not like we're going to lose
20 parking spots or something like that. We're talking maybe we'd lose four if we took one away from each one and expanded everything a little bit, but um at least up there here we might lose, you know, again, maybe four, one for each area. You might take out and just spread them
a little bit, but we'd have to look at that and and see what, you know, what >> has there been complaints though of it being too tight or >> um you know, it doesn't matter what you have. There's always >> Yeah. >> You know, people that >> I really >> don't park straight. I wouldn't want to see him lose four parking spots up at
the courthouse. So, >> right. And again, is that the be all end? But my my guess is is obviously if you're going to expand the ones you have there, you have to you'll have to give up some space and that would be, you know, essentially one on either side of
the gaps is what you'd have to take away in order to do that. So I guess the other option would be is you make you know a handicap on either side of the like the elevator and then that way
maybe would gain part of that space back cuz there's two on the west side and not really anything on the east side of the elevator shaft. >> Is there any kind of protocol to make sure that we have so many handicapped? >> That part I'd have to look into as far
as spacing and numbers. I don't know what the requirement is. I've never checked into that piece. So, I don't I don't mind where the handicap go, but I I do know you don't want to lose four parking spots up here.
That's what we kind of gained when the sheriff went downstairs. So, you know, yeah, try and head off monthsl long discussion. I will make a motion to approve this with the current parking striking renewed.
>> Okay. Has a member of the building committee. I'll second it. Okay. Uh we have a motion by Troy, second by Bill. Is there any further discussion? >> Like I guess I had a question, Mr. Chair, that Bill had raised a question as far as to how they're going to address the cracks. Are we considering
that in this motion or not? We got to find out what was bid because I I I don't didn't see anything in there about milling. >> I didn't see anything. >> And I'll have to check all, you know, all it just says it's going to, you know, 400°ree or pour. It says poured
into clean structural cracks. So, what clean structural cracks means? I gota I'll have to find that out if they're going to blow just blow them out and then fill them or do they do something and what what that limitate you know I know some of them are going to be wider
than others and probably don't need to be you know they're probably wide enough but some of them may may have to be addressed so I'll have to find that out Mr. chair if I can point out here. If you look at that crack right here, Doyle pointed it out here. You see how much black top is on the outside? That don't
do anything. You know that if you look at that crack. So, you know, we did the streets in town, you know, and to, you know, get that rubberized so then it could sit and flex and all that, but it seals it up, right? >> You know, I don't know. They must have
poured right down and it disappeared is what it did probably. Well, and this it may I don't know has this I don't know if this lot's been done. So, that might be original. Has it? >> Well, that was just filled that crack, but there hasn't been any >> done the whole thing.
>> I mean, this is probably new enough. It hasn't. Has this ever been sealed at all? >> No. >> Yeah. So, I mean, if that was filled, it must have been I don't know who did it. So, >> okay. So with this motion then do we
want to go ahead with that with any stipulation that if your votes changed? >> Well, we don't know what that would be. So then we're not approving the >> if they're not included in there. They're going to have to bring a machine
in and mill it. And they're not going to bring a machine for nothing. No one. But when they did counter move, they had the the air compressor and they blew out the crack. I didn't see any milling dump. So, I mean, if it's good enough for county highways, should be good enough
for if they're going to do that. >> I would assume that's what >> clean that would be the question probably to ask. What's clean, right? To that. >> Okay. Well, any further discussion?
If not, I'll call for the question. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Oppos. Same sign. Motion carried. >> All right. And then I'll just give you a quick update. Kyle did pass his first boilers test last
two weeks ago. So, he will be we'll get him working with Wade just to kind of transition to he'll now be able to do the daily checks of the Boilers here. And then Wade just will have to do a weekly check until um it'll take a full
year before he's eligible to take that next test to be able to handle everything on its own. Um, and I will be scheduling for probably a class in July to get that same test taken. And then we should be having be able to have some
redundancy here in the system. So we're not handicapped by one person is the only one that can do it. So um, so yeah, so a little bit of good news there. So perfect. That'd be a good thing. All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you. All right. Ready? >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> In your packet, I had sent out the Craig County social media policy. Um I had sent it out um last month after our department head meeting um for the
department heads to review it and provide any feedback um as well as Justin Anderson, our county attorney um reviewed and supplied some feedback. And so what you have in your packet is the finalized draft. Um and I'm just looking
for the board to approve that if you um feel it is the right thing to do. Any thoughts >> right now? Um there are two um county Facebook pages.
There's the Grant County one um and then the sheriff's office also has one. And so um if you'll notice if you do follow the county um page like highway has an announcement they send it and we post it
on the county one along with any other you know kind of information like elections or pay your taxes or when Carl has like any any events um things like that. Uh Ashley at human resources is the main contact and then the sheriff's office
manages their own page. Um, and since we are utilizing the social media, kind of going through all of our policies, there was one we didn't have. So, the one in front of you is similar to what a lot of the other counties also use um for theirs. Um, so it is a good way to get
current information, emergent information to the public. So, we thought it would be good to have have the policy just sent how it should be used and appropriate use and things like that. Does anybody have any questions on the
policy that was in our packet here? Then >> I'll make a motion to approve it. Okay. Troy makes a motion to approve. Do we have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Doyle second it. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor signify by
saying I. I. Oppos. Same sign. Motion carried. >> Okay. Um the building committee met last week and uh we um the committee wants, you know,
we t been talking about kind of the cleanout of of the basement and um going through all the stored IT equipment, things like that. And so um we have a good plan of how we're going to go about
that. Um there's um obviously things that are going to be kept that are historic and meaningful for the courthouse um to be stored. Um there's some things that um are too good to be thrown away but just have no purpose or
no functionality for for the courthouse. And so we thought that we'd bring to the board um the recommendation to donate those items to the Grant County Historical Society um their fundraiser sale that they do in August. And so uh
that's what we're here today to to check with the board. That recommendation came from the building committee and um but we want to make sure that the full board would be okay with donating any items that again don't have any use or aren't functionable for the courthouse as it is
today but are still it's still too nice to be um recycled or thrown away to see if it could help the Grant County Historical Society through their um sale. The county board is willing to donate that. I think that's a good idea to get it
cleaned up. They can make some money and it'll be really good of the county. So, looking for a motion. >> So, move, Mr. Chair. >> We all made the motion. We have a second. >> Second. >> Second by Troy. Any further discussion?
>> Yeah. Yeah. and I will be the commissioner on hand to see if some of the stuff that we could possibly get for sale and I will bring a trailer so we can actually, you know, move it off of county property and stage it someplace.
I don't know just where that's going to go, but we'll make sure that that's all taken care of. I don't know when the time frame is that we've set, which I believe we have, >> right? >> We'll be in touch. Um we're going to we're so the flooring projects that are going on in in the courthouse um with
license bureau recorder 2, we're going to get a dumpster um for for that project. So we're just trying to coordinate it all so we're not infringing upon the daily operations um of county business as much as possible. Um I also want to just note too, you
know, there's a lot of metal filing cabinets which can be recycled. So, um the date that gets picked, there'll be some movement from the courthouse down to recycling with some of those kinds of things. But, uh um Kyle's been doing a good job kind of going through things.
Um you know, old appliances, old vacuum cleaners, things that aren't they don't work anymore. Um we're just going to try and go through all all that stuff so we have um a safe basement and space in the basement to store things we do need to store.
Okay. >> So, the motion and second references items in the basement, not outline sites, not other items of the county. >> Oh, we're just concentrating on the courthouse right now. >> Okay. The courthouse. >> Mhm.
>> Okay. Okay. Any further discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the question. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Same sign. Motion carried. Grant County uh cannabis committee
update. >> Yes. Um Horizon Public Health reached out to Grant County um and suggested, which I think would be a good idea, that we meet and discuss the uh temporary cannabis event procedures. So, if
somebody wanted to do a temporary cannabis event um over the summer, we have a process in place and an application um ready to deploy. There's a request for it. So, Horizon Public Health has done some work in this area and if you
remember back when we approved the cannabis ordinance, we talked about this and public health wanted to do some more work on it. So, we're going to reconvene our committee to to look at that process and look at that application. Um but once we feel like it's a good in, you
know, good final um format, we'd be bringing that back to the board for approval. Um but we just wanted to get a little jump start on it before summer and festivals and events and things happen. It could, you know, be something that does come up. We just want to be
well prepared for it. So, I wanted to just um update you guys today that that will be coming um probably in to a June meeting that that work. Um
also in your packet was a letter that Grant County received from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources in regards to Egret Island located on Pelican Lake. The letter is notifying Grant County
that the DNR is designating Egret Island as a scientific and natural area. The acronym is an SNA. Um the letter says that Egret Island was gifted to the state of Minnesota in 96.
Um the DNR determined that a commissioner's designation order was never completed for this site. So, um you guys got the letter in your packet. You can read the read the whole thing. Um there is an opportunity for
the county um to meet with the representative from Minnesota DNR to discuss any input that you might have as a commissioner with that designation. But the deadline to do
so would be August 5th. So >> I got a question, Mr. Chair. Would this be no trespassing then too? I mean, they don't they don't want anybody on >> between uh what was it? April and August, something like that. April 1st and >> April 1st to July 15th.
>> Yeah. Nastic period closed to public access. says, "This site is recognized by the state as an important colonal water bird nesting area. To protect these important natural resources, the entire island is managed as a wildlife
sanctuary and is closed to the public access from April 1st to July 15th. >> The main bird out there is the corn, you know, and that's kind of a issue there with the property owners or people around it.
>> Are they going to burn it up?" if I could do the graphs every year or two or what? >> I don't but uh but yeah, that's the that's the only issue out there. So, >> and I'll make sure to send this letter
to the sheriff's office just so they're aware of those dates. >> Um I do have a couple other just updates. Um, at the last board meeting, I had brought forward the Red River Basin Commission request to release the
funds. I believe it was like $112 or something. And the board had directed me to reach out to the Red River um, basin commission to see if an agreement was signed that kind of regulates how that all works. Um, and they did get back to
me and there isn't one. So, they have a meeting coming up um the end of this month um to kind of discuss as a commission about um the idea of having some sort of agreement that they send to all the counties within their commission area.
Um so, if we receive something, I'll bring that forward at that time. Um but they they thanked they actually thanked us for the phone call because um it forced them to kind of look at things and realize that they had everything they had was outdated. So
um and then another just reminder is in June June 15th um is the board of appeals. So that's that's an additional meeting. And I wanted to just uh I'll try to remind you again at the June 2nd meetings cuz it's going to be that time
of year where it's very busy. >> What time does that again? >> I know somebody's going to ask me. I I will >> Does somebody have it on their calendar? >> In the evening. >> If I don't have it in here, I'm not going to be there. >> 4:30. >> 4:30.
>> Okay. We can hit the rewind button, Mr. Chair. you know, it shows and I was, you know, uh, if you want to call it, appointed to be the representative on that initiative. You did find docu documentation that said that. >> Yeah, they said that they have you as a
point of contact. >> Yep. And I do get the emails, but there wasn't a lot of takeaway. The meetings were in Morehead. Okay. And you know, if you guys want me to make sure that you know, we're represented on that board, you know, I I can possibly fit it in or
or at least, you know, uh, Commissioner Staples and I used to ride together up there and I rode with him because he sits on the Bowser board, the advisory for the Bowser. And so he's a real good fit for the Red River Basin Commission up there. So I will go gladly if if you
guys want me involved with this thing and and staying on top of it. I mean, I can >> Do you have a vote sitting at the table? >> Do I? >> Yeah. >> Actually, to tell you the truth, yes. >> So, Grant County has a vote sitting on
that entity. >> It's a it's a recommendation coming out of the committee. Correct. >> It's not a vote. Well, that's we vote to, you know, move forward with with with from the red board, you know, and then that that takeaway goes up to the
red board. So, that's more of just a committee appointment more than anything. >> So, if if once they have their meeting and whatever they send out, I'll get it back on the agenda at that information. Yes. At that time. >> Okay. So, that board of appeals was on
when? >> June 15th. >> 15. Yeah. So, back to Troy's question. I'm We're going to get some specifics that relate to the Red River Basin Commission. Is that what I'm hearing? Coming back to us. Okay.
Thank you. Okay. So, are we uh at our board committee update point here? Okay. Budget Finance Committee, Troy and Bill. We uh will be meeting starting in June
with the uh getting ready. We have a meeting next week, I think, too. Good. >> We got the quarterly meetings and then the department meetings coming up. So,
lots of budget meetings. >> Yeah. Okay. You sent them all out in one shot. I seem to plug them in building committee. Detroit and Bill again just touched on cleaning up the courthouse and
parking lots and you know my laid out kind of what what's been going on for you know cleaning up and you know I don't know if you did you talk about spring >> all the spring maintenance things are
getting lined up. >> You brought that up. >> The other major announcement or update would be um the small data room in the courthouse um that used to be next to the sheriff's >> physical office. Um, it still has some
law enforcement equipment in it, like servers and a switch and some radio stuff. And those particular pieces of equipment kick out a lot of heat. And there was a mini split in that small data room that was used to manage the
heating and the cooling that is broken. Um, and there was a quote to to to replace it and I believe it was right around $4,900. Um, but we got a quote from Morris Electronics in moving that equipment
from that little room in the courthouse over to the large data room at the law enforcement center and that was 2500. So, we are going to uh move forward moving that IT equipment out of that little room, which will take away the
heating and cooling problem so we won't have to do anything in the little room and it'll get moved over to the big law enforcement center data room. And um we're trying to get that scheduled. Sean Martin Lson will be here himself to do
that with some staff and he he indicated there'd be very little impact to the operations of the county while they did that. But he will be here to ensure the transfer of that equipment over. And um we told them it was a priority because
right now we have a temporary solution um in the data room pumping all the hot air out of the data room um into the little vestible area in front of HR coordinator emergency management offices. And if you've been
there for a meeting, it's it's pretty warm. Um, but we'll we're in the process of kind of coordinating that. >> Well, that'll be a good permanent fix for a lot less money. So, >> and Mr. Chair, I remember the question
got posed whether we that was supposed to have been moved when they when they were transitioning over to the sheriff's office. Did you ask? >> Um, I have we we're still talking. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Back. >> The EMS committee. Bill, you got
anything on that? >> So, at the last meeting, we tabled the plan that we brought forward um because there was some discussion about the um the truck and that's a vital part to the overall EMS plan is that sprint truck
because it gets the paramedics to scene. Um, and I did verify with Eric Rizgroot that one of those Sprint trucks is owned by Lake Region and the other Sprint truck is was purchased with the legislative funding for the sprint
program pilot project. So, one of those trucks would be critical to the sprint paramedic program. So to add one truck to the schedule does seem to make sense to keep
providing that higher level of care um and filling out those EMS crews and getting someone on scene faster um for those medical calls and medical emergencies. So um the committee is going to be
meeting hopefully in early June. We're just waiting. Um, Eric is getting some budget details um, worked out with Lake Region and we want to have Lake Region come to that committee meeting as well to kind of have that bigger conversation. So, I didn't bring it back to this meeting because we haven't had
that yet. So, it'll be continued tabled until a June meeting until we can have that committee meeting so we can really um, get more of the details on that. But to answer the question that came up at the last meeting is one of the sprint
trucks was purchased um with legislative funds and is a part of that pilot project. >> Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. You know, I I thought we would always have that in the capital to replace the one truck but not two.
>> What happens to the truck and highlighted project? that drug. >> That is a question. I know you've had lots of conversation with Senator Rasmusen about that. >> He said it was grand dollars that paid for it so you keep it is what he told
me. Now, you know, that's just coming out of, you know, I would like it make sure that there that's reaffirmed. >> Yep. And that's why I think it's important at the next committee meeting that region is there and we kind of hammer out some of those specifics. >> Is it on the title?
I do not know. >> Um I I tales Episcopal. So I'm thinking probably their name is on there. I don't know that. But >> that those are the details we need to >> Yes. Yeah.
>> But Kenny, there's there's also there's way more equipment than just that pickup. There's a whole bunch of life saving >> Oh, yeah. >> that goes to in there. Hopefully we can get all of that, too. you know, that's what we're hoping.
>> So, Mr. Chair, I got another question, too. And at some point, we should being session is over down there or close or if they're get wrapped up in the committees and get done done, but we should we should invite Senator Ason because he was the lead on those grant
dollars to come out and for this pilot pro program. So I think we should invite him and I think he would appre if we can plug that in at some point and get him in house that'd be a great thing. There is another thing too that
it's not 100% that that's going away either, you know. I mean, they the state could say, "Okay, we're going to fund it for three more years or whatever." You know, it's not cut out of the picture. But >> the idea with the EMS committee or the goal is we want to have a really good
plan in place so in the event it sunsets, >> yeah, >> we we continue that level of care for the constituents of Grant County. It doesn't just go away, >> right? create the link into chain right there. Yep, >> I agree. Yeah, I hear, you know, every
couple weeks I hear something good about it. It's been wonderful, you know. So, >> yeah, many of many meetings that usually comes up about we can't let you know the
public is saying we can't lose that program. and our other our our ambulance services in the Grant County are working well with the BIM paramedics. So yeah, they're happy to see them when they're on when they're on going
somewhere and all that. So, okay, personnel committee, that would be Troy and Doyle. >> We met with LS again to finalize some of the stuff we'd agreed to in our last
contract. Okay. Uh, highway committee bill. >> Yes. And thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, and our engineer plugged in an email to us, and I will touch on this a little bit. If somebody wants more information, I
can certainly forward it. Um, on the maintenance side of things, finally received rain, so busy blading the gravel roads, patching on Cass 5, 8, and 14 to get them in the best shape possible prior to the seal coat later
this summer. After patching, we will be moving on to repair a few culverts that have been deteriorating over the years. On the construction side of things, the culverts of for the Pelican Lake Township project have been installed
already. The culvert replacement on CASA 5 should be paid this week or next week. Had the precon meeting for County Road 52 bridge, which would be the the Harrison Bridge or the north side of
Ponty Lake. Equipment and materials will start arriving on site this week with the bridge removal starting in a couple of weeks. All work to be completed by August 28th. Pre-construction meeting for CASA 20
resurfacing is Thursday and the seal code meeting is scheduled for next week. We'll share contractor schedules after the meetings. Other items of note, dust control application is tenatively going to be to
happen next week. The legislature did approve funding for the local bridge replacement program. So, our two box culverts on County Road 35 should receive funding for next year's construction.
And I would like to point out that I would that and our engineer is pointing out that I would also like to point out that the HY department is amazing. On that note, and that's all I got. Okay. So, on County Road 52, the bridge out there, like there's a crane out
there now. >> Yeah, I've seen that. >> Yep. >> And then counter road five, where is that on County Road 5 that he's talking about? >> Right up from Lincoln Church. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. >> And then on County Road 35,
uh, where would that be exactly? >> The box culbert. That's I don't know where 35 is. So I I'm a little lost on. >> I have to look at a map. >> Yeah, but it's probably
35 I think more than likely. >> But it's got a bridge replacement program. >> Yeah. So, it's or two box covers should receive funding. That's next year's construction.
All right. We got time to figure out where it is. >> All right. Uh, okay. So, public safety. Go ahead, Joy. >> We met getting ready for June. We'll have a timeline for the June 2nd
meeting of what we're proposing for a timeline. So, Okay. >> As it pertains to >> the city contracts. >> Okay. Solid waste committee and Troy >> Mar is here. We we met
>> and I think they've had meetings with >> they met with Yep. >> Yeah. And I already heard any were you at any of them? >> Yes. So, the solid waste committee met with all the city clerks. Everyone was there except I believe um the city of
Wendell. Our clerk couldn't make it, but everyone else was there. Um it was a good meeting. Um it was very concentrated on the education of the modernization of solid
waste program and what the transition between now and January 1st, 2028 is. Um, and there is a lot of passion around it because there are increases and increases, you know, are hard on everyone right now. But I felt like
overall the conversation was really good as far as understanding um where we're at and where we're going and why. And um the offer was made to the cities that at any of the city council meetings if they wanted Reed to attend that he he would
attend to help answer questions. And there's this really big push on that education piece um to modernize the system and have it be self- sustaining and not um subsidizing moody dollars by
the time we get to January 1st, 2028. >> Okay. um the strategic planning committee >> meeting plan for June 3rd. >> We're gonna Sean Larson from Morris Electronics will be there. Yes.
>> And we're going to talk about um kind of continuity planning, proactive planning for the future of it in Grant County. Um in conjunction with that, we there was a survey. We're collecting information from the department heads. Um and then Sean's going to be providing some
information for the meeting as well. Okay. Horizon Public Health. We had a meeting. When was it? Do I? Week ago. Monday. Monday. I wasn't there. >> Yeah. Yeah. You That's right. Um, so
they're, you know, they're in the process there of filling up positions, you know, the assistant director and and one other spot. So, they're in the process of looking.
>> Yeah. looking at application for that. So, yeah. So, that's kind of where we're at with that. Western Prairie. >> There's a lease agreement coming up.
>> Yeah, we we we did good here trying to hold off so you can get here. So, >> we should probably now. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, any other many updates
that anybody can think of? Okay. Well, I guess we can get right at it, Stacey. Release agreement prairie here. >> Good morning. >> Morning. >> Thank you for waiting. I appreciate it.
So, you have uh the cover sheet and the lease in front of you. It has not changed since you saw it at the Western Py Board meeting. It has now all been approved and signed by both the Pulp County and Traverse Fund board. So, this is it. This is the last one. Um, we're
just attempting to um put on onto paper kind of what we discussed at the last couple of meetings um and solidify how we're going to do this. Uh I guess I I won't read to you. I'll ask if you have any questions.
We do still need to talk with Maya about the cleaning. I have talked a little bit with Chad about how the billing and all that stuff will go and he understands that, knows all that, so that's not a problem. Um Chad is very well aware of how to do a cost report and he so he's
prepared to do that. He knows he used to do them so he knows how to do those. So I don't think that'll be a problem for Grant County. Do you have any questions? I guess >> any questions of Stacy? >> No. No. Actually, I had good discussions
with Chad yesterday on the phone. >> So, >> yeah, I talked to some last week and >> it looks like it's it's going to work. Just work through it, make sure that all all issues are met and you know what I mean? We just got to keep track little
>> closer than probably we had been. I think that you guys have put a lot of good mechanisms into place though to do that with your ticketing system for um for maintenance and I I think Tina will also do a good job doing that and tracking that which I mean you didn't have that structure in place before. So I think you have a lot of good
structures in place they'll do it now. >> Well and Mr. Chair, but I got another statement I can make between us as commissioners. You know we got to protect both boards here. >> You know what I mean? And it's got to be a you know >> y >> we got to move forward and make sure that that all concerns are met
>> you know that. So >> so under use of lease property it says rel purposes related to conducting offering and social services entity and or other lawful per purposes. Would that be like us here?
>> I assume so. Justin wrote this but nothing will change in how we use this building. So >> yeah always The way I view that is for social services and other lawful purposes. So there's times we can't use this room because it's full of toys for
>> not that's not a social services purpose. >> It's legal to have toys for >> Yeah. We allow >> I think that they have like planning commission meetings here. They have other all kinds of meetings here. We >> It's not intended to change what they're doing.
>> Nothing will change. No, because we're this building. I don't know where we'd be without it. So, >> yeah, it's owned by the county. It's the county's building. >> Yeah. So, this everything then the the maintenance of this and the snow removal and the lawn mowing, all that. That's
the county's responsibility in each jurisdiction. >> Yes. The cleaning, however, will be ours. So, we'll take over the cleaning or we'll take out Well, we already had here been paying for the cleaning. So, it's just a matter of getting the contract fixed. I think Justin has already done that on your side of it. He
just has to get our side done. So, I think he's already done that. And I talked with um Sarah Wagner Cleaning wasn't accustomed to submitting a bill. Apparently, you guys just paid them all the time. So, we didn't know that. And so, they weren't getting paid. We worked
that out. They got paid. >> I had a conversation with them. I said, "We and and we'll they don't want to submit a bill. We'll figure it out. We'll make it work." I talked with them. >> It come through our our statements, you know, where our bills have been as far as just the highway, you know, so then I
got a phone call right away after that. >> Yeah, I talked to Dead and Don. Uh yeah, I see them a lot. I'm here at night, so I saw them and chat with chat with them about it. >> We took care of it and they got paid. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Absolutely.
>> Okay. Uh any other discussion here? Hearing none, I'll call for the a motion. Somebody want to make one. I'll make that motion, Mr. Chair, to move forward with the building lease with Western Purum Human Service. Okay.
Do we have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Doyle will second it. Any further discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the question. All in favor signify by saying I. I. >> Opposed? Motion carried. Who is going to get this to the Owl Da
because this still has to go to them. I don't know that they have to approve it, but they've got to have a copy of it. >> Um, do you want Who would I need to get it to for that? I can ask Justin to do it. >> City clerk. >> Who? >> The city clerk. Jeff Wilson.
>> He's like retired. >> No, he's still there. >> When's he retiring? um coming up here. They got to make a choice of of >> the 2030. >> No, they got to make a choice. And then he he's going to be, you know, in in
house for up to a year poss. >> Ah, okay. Yeah, we can get a copy of him. That's no problem. >> Yeah, he'll dig it. He he sits on that meeting every month. >> Okay. Yeah, we can do that. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anything else to come before the board
today? If not, I'll adjourn this board meeting at 10:08 a.m. Thank you, Mr. Chair.