9:00. Calling me in order. Stand for the pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. [Music] the uh I got to uh change agenda a little bit. The uh human resources DDA presentation it says closed. That will be open.
Anybody else have anything else? Okay, I'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda. So move, Mr. Chair. Second. Second. Any more discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by
saying I. I. Both caring I'll make a motion to approve the minutes. We have a motion. We get a second. Second. Any discussion on any of the minutes? If not, I'll all
approve the motion by signify by saying I. I oppos carried just confirmational bill. Was that you that second? Yep. Orange sent out. You bought a water heater. Was there no
warranty on that? That was for this building. 7 years old. Haven't we been in this building about 7 years? Is it detained? Yep. We got to
provide that with the county. Don't know if I understand that, but I think a couple years. No, they don't last. You can Who knows? I mean, there could have been something that went on
when they first charged up the building or something like that. got some air into it or something and you know expanded them a little bit or you know what I'm saying there. I mean it didn't feel slow. Is it electric? Yes.
Take that back. What is it, Tina? I don't know if it's electric or gas, but it's in there. I didn't look at it close enough. I just look at the bottom. Make sure the water ain't running out of them. Get a one of those marathons that
already ate dishes out. Yeah. How big a heater is it? It's big. It's like a, you know, one of the size of a marathon, but it isn't the marathon breed. I don't know. That was plenty expensive.
We're not tied to REA here. City of Lake doesn't supply them like RDA does. I'm just I mean if we could spend $4700 and some dollars in seven years I I don't know what the I guess the qu it
obviously wasn't asked. Must have been leaking. I didn't see it but I did see when the cruisers out here and they were running in and out of the door. That's all I see. I have to believe it's propane K. Yeah. Because all people rate on on electricity here is
not the thing to do. They need water. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to pay the bills. Motion and a second. Second. Any more discussion on any of the bills? All in favor of the motion signify by
saying I. I. Both carried. environmental services. So, I don't know if I actually need to formally come up and sit with you guys, but the number of times I do this, it's getting shorter. So, I thought, what the heck, right? I guess. So, you guys did
get my letter, I assume, right? Tina sent it forward to you. I'm not going to read it or anything, but I just want You have a letter or what's that? You had a letter? Yep. Yep. But then you signed it, huh? Yeah, I signed it. It's official.
So, I just, you know, I know we talked at the last board meeting whether um it was going to be doing this. So, I thought it'd be appropriate to put it in writing so you guys can transition and move forward. So, that's all this letter was intended to do is just let you guys
know that August 29th will be my official last date. I've uh applied for social security and working with P. So can't hardly turn back now. Right. So that's all this is is just to uh
officially inform you guys. And like I said in the letter, I it's been a good run. Um but I really part of the reason why I'm doing this just a little early is just to help with that transition with the office and moving forward. So that's the intent. So, you'll be around
for questions? Uh, yep. Questioning or question. Both. Well, I don't know. I got a I got a project down in Doyles's district that I am working pretty hard on with Five Mile Creek. So, that's been uh fits and
jerks, but I'm still working pretty diligently on trying to make something come together and say we can't help the boys down in Herman area. So yeah, so that's all. So I think we should recognize that after 32 years,
obviously your service, but also the fact that you were part of the the succession plan and moving forward and I think want to commend you for that. Oh yeah, whatever. That's not why I'm sitting here. That's that is
Yep. And then I when do we have the group hug? Um, I suppose I I prefer doing it oneon-one. I don't know when that's going to be, but it will be after 4 p.m. Yes. No, thank you. But yeah, so that's
nothing formal. I just I just wanted to acknowledge that it's happening. So I think we need to and I will make a motion to accept the retirement notice. Thank you. Yep. No problem.
Good. I'll second that motion and thank you again. Yep. No problem. A motion in the second. Any more discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I oppose. Thank you for your service. Thank you.
No problem. Yep. Okay. I still got some rocks up there, too, by the way. Well, yeah. As long as the gator's running. You have time, right? Yeah, I will. So, you're going to work on five mile creek for free then? Done. You know, it's going to be they ain't going to be done as fast. No, no, but the wheels are in
motion. We're trying. Good. Yeah. So, I think the balloons will be taken. Yeah. We're trying along with everybody else. Yeah. All right. Next is John. Yeah, they have a packet paper and then I do
have a presentation up here where until we get into that. Okay, just tell me what we need to try not to screw it up. Thank you. Good morning. Morning. Um, so we just wanted to give you kind
of a heads up or do you want to start with that? um on the body warn camera grant that we received um from the the bureau of uh justice which is a federal grant. Um not saying that we're at a standstill but
we're trying to finalize the the product. Um so in the meantime um of researching different projects um John and I had to approve the policy for the body warn camera um into you know our jurisdiction.
Um so going forward we will have to per state statute there is um it says that we have to have the agency must accept public comment submitted electronically and the governing body with jurisdiction over the budget of the agency must
provide an opportunity to provide public comment at a regular scheduled meeting. So once we finalized the product then we can go ahead have this um the public comment. We also made up a letter and a survey for the people that um can't have
a QR code or doesn't want to do the survey um online. I have made a letter and a survey on paper and yeah do we have a way to do that online comment? So well through the survey that would be
the online comment. Okay. You have the you have the means for the electronic comments. Okay. Yep. Yep. And it's a free app and you know sorry to interrupt. No no no no but it it does say that we have to have a public opening
hearing. Yes just like the drone stuff that we had when we implemented the Lat program. And then I also said that for the grant and part of my goals and objectives I would go to each city council and kind of educate the city council of you know what the body worn camera grant is. And
then I also give them the letter. Um, so if anybody from their community wants to physically fill out the form, they can pick it up at the city and then, um, I'll get it back. So, um, so I guess we can go to, um,
researching the specific product that we're going to incorporate. Um, so naturally, we just went through Motorola, um, because that is what we were using for our inspot cameras. Um and uh with the need to update our INS
squad cameras and and other equipment um we looked into several other uh agencies I should say or other vendors vendors. Yes. you know, as as you recall when we first uh presented uh regarding this this
grant that we would have never expected to get and it needs to be reiterated that again we were reminded or Jen was reminded that agencies like uh New York City PD um were ones that generally received this federal grant and and how it was
that uh Little Grant County got it is kind of beyond them but we did. So if you recall uh we started out the conversation were the body worn cameras um and we're looking at Motorola. Motorola actually bought WatchGuard
which was a separate entity itself and so we just continued with Motorola because of our current WatchGuard system which they owned and I'll let you uh go from there with Motorola. Yeah. So with
with what our department needs and for you know our specific procedures um we found that Motorola wasn't able to offer everything that we needed um especially when it came to redaction programming um
you with our data request um you know that is very time consuming and it can I mean it cost a lot of money um so we found that they couldn't offer for what we what we currently need. Um so then I continued
to work with different vendors just trying to get a quote to seeing what you know or what product that would be the best for us. Um, so I looked into uh, so Motorola we looked into G-Tech, which is, um,
uh, I don't know, it wasn't, they could offer the in squad cameras and body worn cameras. Um, but they really couldn't give me a great demo on what the product was. Um, the redaction
was par. I mean, nothing extravagant. um you know I think it would take a lot of work for redaction. Um so I did receive a quote for them which we think is quite high um just for what they're offering and um there's no
updates in any technology um that they could provide. So then I did look out to Axon and a lot of agencies are trying to go on or there are um going with contracting with Axon
um and we did find that they could offer everything that our agency needs um and so just like technology is you know it's just now becoming prevalent um and maybe we're a little bit behind the ball but um you know all of this computers and
software everything has to be updated Um, and I think that Axon did a really great job of um of incorporating like the the their lifespan um updating it two and a half, five, seven and a half
or whatever it might be. Um, so if we can start the the PowerPoint and I think do you guys have it in your packet as well? Yeah. Sh. So, what our what our office um is in
need of, we need to update our in squad cameras. Um they're eight eightish years old and then our tasers are quite outdated as well.
You just you can go ahead. Okay. Yeah, you can go ahead. So um through the Axon programming, they have um an officer safety plan 10 with an AI bundle. And so what we're looking
at is a five or 10ear contract. Um and they're and jump in whenever um their contracts are they have like a suggestion um of like the five and 10 year written or broken
out into each year and all they really need is 10% the first year. they're willing um like the vendor that's working with me right now, the salesman, he is just for a smaller agency so they know that you know
budgeting issues so like they can they can work with us whatever that might need. We just need 10% the first year. Um you go ahead. So with the five and 10 year contracts that would include nine
fleet three incar systems. So currently um we have 11 vehicles but there's only nine of us or nine deputies that have the in squad camera system. Um that would include the cradle point routers.
So I don't know if you're familiar with the what a cradle point router is. Right now we're using our VPNs to get access and we have a lot of dead areas. So we are losing uh connections. So with that cradle point router, it's actually a
router in your squad car and um it's almost guaranteed that we will never lose service. Um so that that alone is a huge deal because we what if we lose service we lose everything. We we can't use our computers. So actually
everything that is electronic would go through the router system. How far away can you be from that router? A good question. Um I can get back to you. I don't know. And then I got a my question on that is
that does that replace our jet tax to lessen our Verizon bill? Yes. Um, and then a full system refresh at year five and 10. So, if we went with the five-year program at year five, um, you would get a whole new system
and then, you know, whatever or at 10. Yep. So, um, the next big item is taser 10 with the cert certification plan. So um right now we are having we have
XPS X26s X26 and X26PS. Yep. And um since then they've came out with another taser and now the newest is Taser 10. Um so now with this bundle um it's a certification plan. So they would
send um our officer to be trained which we've already done. So they so that they would give us money back. Um, but this bundle includes all the duty and training cartridges over the contract term. And we can go more into specifics
exactly what a Taser 10 is because I like Dwayne, I know you would be interested. Um, not going to demonstrate it. Yeah, I was going to say it's going to be anything. Um, and then the next big ticket item is the body warn cameras. Um so it is cloud
storage and so it's unlimited storage. Um it's a full hardware and refresh at two and a half years and five years for seven and a half or 10 depending on what if we do the fiveyear contract or 10 year and then it locks in the pricing
um depending on whatever plan that we choose. So do you want to go? So neighboring agencies using Axon, this is just um this is growing. Um so Ottertale County
just signed a 10-year contract. Perm Norman County, Stevens County did a 10-year contract. Douglas County, um State Patrol obviously DNR, Stevens or uh Benson and Swift County and Douglas County.
I understand that some of those agencies may be using part of or multiple pieces of axon. So, some may just be using the taser. Some um like with DNR, their taser and body worn cameras. Uh
Ottertale is taser, body warn camera and squad cams. So there's a lot of different variations of who's using what, but it's becoming more and more with Axon that agencies are moving moving on to them.
So just a little bit about the body camera. Um there it's four. Um it has like a 12 12 to 15 hour um battery span and that will um we also receive another
extra battery for each each officer. You can charge it in the squad or at home obviously. Um the I guess that would be I think that's good for them.
So, key features, um, low light performance. So, there's lighting on them. We can turn them off if we need to be, you know, soft mode or or turn it on if we need light. Um, it has a clear
back frame, so for playback, it's a full shift battery. Um, they're made to be rugged. Um they're simple to use and display. Um the security is great with evidence.com is where everything would
be uploaded to. Um it's a rapid recharge and upload. So right now when we use any camera like our Inspire cameras, we have to go back to the office in a specific spot to
upload to upload all of our um video. having that router system, it'll upload immediately because it's router. It's right there. So, that will be nice for officers at who are wanting to type their report. They can play back what they just, you know, just performed and
see it right there. So, um I think it'll be less time having to go to the office, download the the video. It'll it'll it's uploaded immediately. um the axon view and axon device manager
which is getting kind of into um the redaction. um the video recall and birectional communication. So, anybody that comes into our area that uses Axon, um it can it'll alert
the other agency that like if we have DNR on a call with us, it'll alert our office that there's another Axon person that's there. So, if we need that video, we can quickly get it. Yeah. So, it's, you know, it's they have a really good
product. They really know what they're doing. Um, just for helping out agencies like if something massive happened, you know, we're going to have a lot of guys here. Well, if they come from Ottertale, Douglas, Stevens, um, we're going to quickly get all the information that we
need and that shows up on their computers in their cars if they know somebody's there. Or is it back in the office? I think it's back in the office. Yep. Yep. that time. So right now, you know, a lot of the agencies that we currently work with, you know, Minnesota State Patrol,
BCA and also the DNR, they all have, you know, their wear requirements when it comes to their axon cameras. So they always have them and always have them on. And so that's an example of of uh
the birectional use or notifications for that system in case we're all on out on the scene and who's available for for the recordings. Yeah. How would you uh access that information now?
We'd have to call and you know try to find the person that can get the Yeah. If if uh we'll use state patrol for example. Um, if we were out on a call with state patrol and their bodywn cameras were activated
and then we needed that footage for some reason, we'd have to contact their central office to make a request. They would have to burn a copy onto a thumb drive or DVD or through SF TP TP program to
electronically get it to us. Yeah. Um so they've jumped into the AI. So AI obviously is becoming predominantly uh useful um yet scary sometimes what AI
can do. So with this AI package um in the five or 10 year they have different AI programs that if we contracted like for the five or 10 year plan anything new that they come up with will also be included for that full 10 years at that
same price. So just this year they came out with um four extra ones that are that are aren't even on here yet. Um, but what AI can do is astronomical. Like, um, if with the touch of a button
on our body warn cameras, it can help transcribe. Um, so we can talk and listen and it'll play back to us whatever that person was trying to say and then if I need to talk in Spanish, I say what I I need to say and then it'll relate it back in
whatever language. In whatever language. Yep. And there's not I mean I think Yeah. Yep. So, just that alone is great because there's been lots of times where we have to use our Google app or Google Translate or we have to physically get a
translator on the phone to translate for us, which is all handy that they don't even know what's happening. Right. Right. And it's just a touch of a button and they can do it. Yeah. Um the draft one is the report writing. So,
it can help um lessen the officer's time for like drafting reports. It'll it's based on factual information that you whatever you talked or whatever you spoke into the the body warn camera, it'll write it all out for you. Um so,
all you have to do is just proofread it and add the names. Um uh real time translation. Um no more having to have a have a um a dispatcher you know, transcribe anything. Um, it
also has policy chat, which I do think is a great thing. Um, if if an officer has a question about what our specific policy is, it you can ask the policy chat and it'll tell you what our policy is. Right now, we'd have to go into
Lexiple, you know, download the um the our procedure book and then you'd have to find it, you know, that. So I think policy chat will help um immensely maybe cut down on some phone calls at night.
And um the smart detection speeds up the evidence review by finding and following human forms and video. So that that again is um the redaction period or portion of this. Um it it's so smart of what it can do. I can just say like this
guy I need to be covered, you know, for redaction purposes. It'll redact his face throughout the whole video. Um, if you don't want our squad uh computers to be in there, both taken out, it can hide
the voice, license plates, license plates. I mean, whatever, whatever it is, it can it could do it. Um, I'm sure the brief one, um, it'll help. Like on bigger cases, we typically have to spend hours um making a like a
PowerPoint to present to, you know, the federal prosecuting attorneys or or our assistant county or um the AG's office or to Justin if we have larger cases. Um brief one will analyze the whole case
for us. Um so that'll cut down immense a lot of time. And then the form one is um it'll help utilize the data being pulled from other from other body work uh camera audio transcripts.
This is the case at the end. My experience using draft one really blew me away. the normal report, your your thefts, your shopliftings, uh your damaged property reports, those it really does a good job of reasoning through
come on this job wanting to make an impact. You don't come on this job impact reports. So this AI feature, I'm super excited about it. When we introduce new technology, there's obviously a skepticism on this is something I have to learn. This has changed. I don't necessarily like this.
I like the way I'm doing it now. But once they use the technology, they see how beneficial it is to their day-to-day operations. And then there's buying. I logged in. I had the narrative. And I wanted to see just how it was going to do in summarizing that report. And all
these little minor details was all in there. Very thorough and very eloquently done. There were a few things that we had to edit, but I would say probably about 90% of that first report. That's probably a 25 to 30 minute long report. You hit the narative button, print
something out in a few seconds. It does force you to go through the report to make sure that you agree with everything that's written. We make sure we're checking our work when we do the AI report, right? But ultimately, it is a clean process and some of the reports that we've seen are maybe better off,
right? What I'm most looking forward to is the increased efficiency that this technology provides from line level all the way up to commander level. There's a plethora of things that we can do with that extra hour or two hours in a
12-hour period. Ultimately, we are here to serve the community and this helps that good. Um so this is pertaining again to draft one. Um you know reduction in report writing time
which I think will help lessen our overtime. You know if there's a big case it's probably three to four hours of overtime for just report writing trying to get it done if not more. This is a demo of the live translation and it's not very long. So yeah it's
it's pretty good. Hello, my name is Officer Beckworth. I'm here to help. Okay. better video. Yes, sir. Red Mustang was in this moved and made a right. Volume is advised. Suspected hit and run driver heading
southbound on Bear Parkway in a compact red vehicle. Just that easy. Hello, my name is Officer Beck. Again, this talks about the policy chat. Um, and then we'll go into the features of
the Taser 10. Right now, u, the Taser 10 is a 45 ft maximum um, deploy uh, lip that it can reach. Um, and there's 10 individually targeted probes. So, right now we have cartridges and we
have two cartridges. So this new product has 10 individual ones. Um which I think it would be beneficial especially for rural areas where our backup is half hour you know at the
right I would say half hour. Um so if they're not compliant with by 10 times you know and it's one individual probe that's that's activated at at a time. So I think that's um it's going to help for officer safety.
um any probe connects. Um there's also an audible and visual warning alert and if you hear that you it gets your attention the warning or the audible warning or um it has integration with
the Axon VR which is a training um I don't know what do you call those like a VR training. So you put on this mask and we we uh you can train with it. that has scenarios um just getting the muscle mass you know like to deploy your taser
what that feels like per state statute right now we have to do two probes a year um so we will continue to do that but this will be extra training that we can improvide or it provide to our deputies just to you know to see in real life like this is a real or you know
this is a scenario what would you do and and then enhanced weather resistance So this slide shows the difference between um the the spread. Um right now we have the
taser's x26. So you can see the spread and how the taser 10 can go up to 45 ft and accurate. And I think there's a video right after this that shows.
So the guy is way in the back. There's nowhere to go from here. There's nowhere to go from here. What? What? where you saw that. So you saw that deployment. So with the current um
phasers, as Jen had indicated, they they have one cartridge on them and within that cartridge is two probes. And uh the X26 and the X26PS that we currently carry, we have a max distance of 26 ft of safe distance for
deployment. And that all depends on the longer the further the distance, the wider the spread of the probes. There's two probes that come out of this cartridge. As you saw in that uh video, you saw and heard those probes
continually shooting from that taser 10 and there was sound like there's like four, five, six of them that went out and he saw the wires going. So, um with with the taser 10, there are 10 individual shots within
that that taser. Um, when we talk about replaceable cartridges, it's replaceable per cartridge or per shot. So, it's not like you have you got one of your cartridges on. No, I don't. It's on my The further out you get, does the wind
affect it? Well, there's there's there's always factors that you have to consider. Right. Right. So, are these faster or the same as the other ones or faster? And they're smaller. Like our our probes right now are I mean our cartridge is like this. It's it's
bigger. The probes now are with the 10. Yeah. They're faster. And plus the distance 45 ft versus 26. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Okay. Um time wise we got five minutes left. So
um so I guess Yeah. keep going. Axon fleet. I mean, it's, you know, it's smaller than what we're technically using right now. And it offers the router system, which I think would be um
a great benefit to our agency, especially with all of our how big everything our agency, the ground that we cover, and there's a lot of dead spots. So, yeah. Go ahead. Um, all right. So, this is the five-year contract.
This is a It compares the fiveyear and 10 years and I think you guys had that in your packets too. So the fiveyear um was it a 7%? So with the inflation rate they have a 7%
um inflation rate in the 5year cont and in the 10-year contract it's only a 4% increase with the inflation. Um you can see at the dis the discounts um for every single one and then they also have a two five-year program or two
five-year contracts um that we would be saving how much we would be saving at the bottom. Um so again like we have a payment plan for for each year and all they really need is 10%. Um on the 10-year program
it'd be a 5% and 10% after. Um but this can be this payment schedule is not set like we can tailor it to whatever we need. So it's similar um we that we are hoping
that we can start budgeting um kind of like what we did for the radios. you know, how we took out money every year to pay for the radio system. Um, again, like this these products aren't
a want there. We need these products um going forward. So, and I think we did talk to Chad and you con computed that it was be a.5 or 6 increase to our budget if for the 10 year. Correct. Right. If we, you know, be just kind of
rounded things out as we have another five.5 or 6% increase to our budget moving forward. Let's say starting in 26 or 27 um going with the 10 years plan.
But again, that overall dollar figure um right now does not take into consideration what is paid forward or what's paid in advance. So um moving back to the grant, you know, we um are
allotted the $22,000. Um that would go towards this and then whatever the board's decision was, and I know it was unbudgeted for 25 the 5050 match. Um, we can contribute
out of some fore accounts a little more money towards the front end of this to bring the overall cost down on it eventually. Got a question or something. you had a list of the agencies and you
call them neighboring. Do they have access or do you have access to all 87 counties or whose place even in this? Um Norman County media isn't a neighbor. So I'm wondering no what's the penetration within the state of
Minnesota? Well, we can certainly find out because I I'm sure that Axon is would be more than happy to to give that information. And it looks like Stevens didn't show that it was it was a 10 year. So, they
must have went with a five. No, I believe they went with the 10. It didn't say it up there. Oh, I believe that they the question this taser that sounds like that's kind of a
clear advantage for what you're using now. Would that be accurate? Correct. Is that an Axom product or could you move by that off the No, that's that's Axon. Yeah, Axon. Little history on Axon. Axon first was
the company that first introduced Taser. Oh, yeah. Everybody calls them Taser, but they're Axon is the company. And all they've done over the years is expanded their technology. Um, and that's where the in squad cameras come from and also
the body warn mics. They got a superior product. Yeah. And then this bundle with the Taser 10, it comes with all your training um probes and any probe that you happen to use. It's all a bundle. So, it's all in there. So, we never have
to pay for another. Right now, I'm in we're under contract with Axon for cartridge replacement. They're usually a three-year contract um where we receive roughly 20 22 26 cartridges every year for three
years and that's taken in consideration what your um potential deployment is plus the trading associated with it. Yeah. uh but we have to have two deployments uh every year during our use of force training and that's two
cartridges. So this 60 month this 379,000 with the tax and then you got a it says savings a 33y year total savings 167,000 is that savings if we paid it all up front or how is it what is the 379
relate to the7 the 379 is with the tax up one the 376 would yes but we have to pay tax right no oh okay well then 376 so how does that relate to the savings what what's the tie between the two? Um
I believe it's just with the bundle with with everything. Um and then he is also giving us a discount um of $41,000. So if you bought the each one of the project products individually. Yeah. Oh, okay. It hasn't to do with the payment.
No, no, no. Um yeah. So if if but bundling them all together as they indicate the savings by bundling is that 167. Yeah. And so when I first initially talked to them um you know I said geez you know I don't think
we can go ahead and the first year get 11 body cameras or 11 tasers. Um they said no we will make that affordable for you. So you can do that because what they don't what they don't want us to have like five officers get it the first
year and the second year the other five get it like they it's just easier to roll out and keep track because like the taser they're they're only good for five years. So then they would replace it at five years. The body worn cameras are replaced every two and a half years. Um, and the in squad cameras are replaced
every five and they come on site to reboot existing and install the new and that's all included in the prices associated. And then we also received the inservice training which was a $10,000 and they're
giving us that for free if if we do the five or 10 year with the 10 year contract. There is a we explained at the budget and finance committee meeting a little bit. There is a bit of a push on this. Um so our our current rep he's going to
be leaving and uh he's currently stationed in Arizona and E-Haul handles a lot of the smaller agencies up this way in this district but he's going to be taking over an area over by Ohio now um for larger department larger
departments. But since he's a senior member, I guess he's got the availability or the ability to be offering these type of deals where apparently even your reps don't. Um I guess it comes with with the time spent.
Um and then also the AI portion uh the AI bundle associated with all this would dramatically increase after June 30th of this year. So starting July 1, there would be a What was the percentage increase? It would be $66,000 more.
Yeah. For AI. Yeah. So, with the AI bundle, anything that they come up with like within the next 5 years or 10 years, we all we will get that whatever they come up with after the five or 10 years, then we'd have to pay for the extra. So, the the the plans um and you
know, we we've kind of been focusing on the 10-year plan. um anything with either one of the plants basically there's a constant and consistent upgrade both for hardware and software uh to the product you know during during
the life of that contract. So it's we're I know that was a question that you had had Troy um regarding that and no we don't we never fall behind on the software updates firmware new versions nothing uh to the equipment to the
software it all follows each other throughout the life of that um that contract. So if we were to go with this are these ours or are they theirs? the tasers, the cameras. I mean, so at year 10 when the contract is all said and
done, who owns We would. So at year 10, we get a new taser, we get a new body warn camera, and we get a new inventory. Even if we get brand new equipment, and they walk out the door. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, when I looking at here, I I don't know what that it says bundle officer safety plan. And it's got all these things listed out and that is the big driving expense every year, right? So that's I mean I look at tasers and I see in here one where 11 of them comes
to about $55,000. That's a lot of a lot of years of and I realize that's just tapers. That's a lot of years in 800,000. What are our potential savings to offset an average of say $80,000 a year?
What is what was the question again? Potential savings where we would offset you know because if you average this out I realize years the later you get the more expensive but averaging $80,000 a year. What are offsets to help you know
we're we're trying to save money anywhere we can because we're afraid of what the federal government's going to do. Understandable. What are, you know, what are our offsets that wind up getting us to a net zero? To a zero. Well, no. And I'm not saying
next year's cost is in relation to 25. I'm looking at 25 beginning of the year to 25 end before you add your increases for pay. I I get that. That's a different convers. I'm looking just here's what 25 was at the beginning of
the year. here's what it is before we adjust inflators that I'm not saying we got a net zero with payroll with that's not what I'm saying I'm saying this amount here well
I guess we're going to look be looking at savings wise some of it comes directly with training um you know currently we enter into an agreement with Otterill County uh where we're sending all of us all licensed peace officers up there for annual
use of force training. Um the use of force includes you know hands on baton uh OC or pepper spray tazers and so that would be an erased cost because we now
have our own trained um Deputy Scadum is our taser uh instructor now. Axon said that since we'd sent him so recently, they'll turn around and reimburse the county for what we had to pay for him to be at a week school. So, we'll have the in-house
training from him, uh, we have our in-house training for use of force, plus our in-house, uh, firearms training, less, less lethal stuff. So we won't be having that overtime training travel
expense plus paying uh in the cons uh consortium up there for that more specific style training. Uh the other is the cradle point. Um you know we would save on 12 jetpacks.
It's currently 12 11 or 12 that fall on our Verizon bill monthly. Um, and that's a cost savings if we connect directly to cradle point. Um, we'd eliminate those. Uh, that's both hardware and software because we have to upgrade those on a
regular basis as well. Um, I'm just thinking some things off off hand here that where we would see some cost savings um by going this route. Granted, it doesn't zero go.
And and that was we talked about, you know, the first year with or this year I should say with the grant and forefeiter funds is it it gets you time to get hopefully to and it gradually increases. So hopefully we can gradually find the
efficiencies. And you know and at our at our meeting that we had you know I had made that comment that and it is understandable that this was not a budgeted item uh more specifically for this office and a surprise to the the for a request for
the grant match. Um, for lack of better terminology, I had made the offer that um if if if this office and the board could come into some type of agreement, um we would
be willing to carry I guess that portion the the board's uh potential contribution or the match of $22,000 for 25 um just so we can get this ball rolling and walk into something. And as I've indicated too, um, with some of our
our drug and DWI forfeite funds, uh, which could directly be utilized for projects like this, um, we could potentially put a little bit money more little more money towards the upfront cost to bring the later years cost down
when it comes to budgeting if um, if the board agrees to go along with this. Mr. Chair, I got a question here. Um but who do you guys I was talking to all just to interrupt the situation here. Do you see any technology change in 5 years or you
know in that every day? It's every day. It's every day. Okay. Well, you know what I mean? Why would you go out 10 then? Why would you do just five? No. No. Because it changes. It it changes it. It It's progressive. It's progressive. We're not We will get everything that is new. Even the tasers,
even the ball that Okay. Yeah. We'll always get their their the latest and greatest product. Yep. Mr. Chair, I have something replacement. I have some. Okay. So, coming from an era where when the crap would hit the
fan, you'd be out there u trying to document what's going on. And uh then you'd have to come back to the office after working the scene, you know, collecting your evidence, stuff. Then you have to put your report together. I I I wish they would had a system when
I was working in law enforcement because this is going to save on court court time when the county attorney gets this information, defense attorney gets it. Going to save on count court time. I know that because it's right there, you know, the information and uh to have uh
to have somebody, you know, talk into this thing and then have it uh you know, kind of transcribe for you what uh what what you're saying and then you can proofread it. I mean, the the dispatchers up there, they used to have to type every uh statement that we would
take from people and some of these statements on big cases were hour and 45 minutes. They'd have to type it all out. there's there's a lot of savings there and you can put your resources on the street more because there's a lot of demand from these cities for things to
be done and uh I think that's going to free up a lot of time for the deputies to uh you know so I yeah I know it's a lot of money but I I uh I sure see the value in some of this here that's for sure so so
if you take $80,000 a year and I want% on the budget I guess is but the analytics when you go to these cities for a new contract is that 80,000 did applied to the new contracts or all been going back to
because at some point we this has got to increase our cost deliver services y maybe yeah so we just we just had a meeting um with the uh mayors um from all the
cities with contracts, public safety board. Public safety did and there was just this what's today? Tuesday. So was last week. Last Thursday. Yeah, last Thursday we had a meeting to discuss uh future contracts and how that looks, costs associated um what the increases could or couldn't
be um depending on, you know, overall operating costs of the new LE and and other additional things. So um I you know that's all I can say about it. I think the meeting went very well. Um, a lot of people were very receptive
to what was discussed and how we move forward with things. So, one that's part of that public safety committee update coming up is we talked about new contracts and finan you know this was never brought up to the cities that
this may this cost may come in. So, how we proceed I I can't answer that question because I'm one person, right? But I mean that was never talked to them and we can update that. I don't want to eat up this
time with that conversation. I mean we can but they but they are well aware that it is their contract is based on our budget. Correct. Well so currently it's not and currently it's the 3% annual increase of what we've been doing. What
I got a sense from the mayors is they would like to see a percent of the budget locked in and then we do like we do with garbage where
you know so let's say this was already going on. We would use the actual budget, actual expenses from 2024 by whatever that percent is and that would be their contract rate for 26. So they would know March 1st here's what
the rate is and if they have an issue with that then by June 15th they need to notify the county that we don't we have an issue with this otherwise after that we are going to operate with the contract has been you know essentially signed after June 15th and everybody
will do their budgeting and move forward that's what we talked about but that was one commissioner talking to four mayors So they're still do the mayor still have a meeting every month or every they don't no organized
meeting but what I would suggest was probably given each city council your little shield on this and that's what we're looking at but quite a presentation you've got here
that's for sure has this program slashteology from Axum been available for a while. 5 years, 10 years, two years. It has I I I'd have to go back. I mean, they they have the tasers. I mean,
that's who the taser company has. Um they have been around for a while. Yes. Um I can't tell you the exact date. Yeah. They're not some new startup. No. and they are also into the CAD RMS system and right now it's only being offered to departments that are um more
than 100 people. Um and I could see how that could be very well beneficial. Um they said that like in three years it would be made towards a smaller department because they're integrating all the product
um which will be nice too. So, well, you guys are got everybody responding to a lot of things. Game wardens are responding and state troopers and so when all that technology can talk and you can you back each other up. Well, we have to, you know, we don't
have the, you know, it's it's nothing no new news, you know, to this board. It's just rural rural communities, you know, we don't have the the uh resource and the manpower like bigger agencies and cities do. So we have to rely on ourselves a lot of the times. Yep. And
uh we're we're but even we're very thankful for the partners that we do have, you know, the surrounding agencies here, the the counties and the PDs plus state patrol and DNR. Um we're seeing a lot more of the state patrol stopping in now, which
is fantastic. Um our DNR officer here in town, Ryan Brown, he uh you know, we might as well just throw a uniform on him. Mr. Grant County Sheriff's Office, you know, he spends a lot of time here, which is fantastic. And he's beneficial.
So, I think we've seen an example of even bigger agencies need help in the last week uh down in with that terrific horrific uh deal that happened down in the cities there. And uh I know that when they caught that guy, they had they
had dozens of SWAT teams down there from all over the state. SWAT teams. I mean, so even though you're a big jurisdiction, sometimes the little guys come to help and sometimes the big jurisdictions come to help us here. So,
it's just a it's a that part of uh of Minnesota law enforcement is really really good. They help each other out. So, what do you need from us today? Well, we're looking for approval. um
either uh a five or 10 year contract. Did I Did I hear you say you're looking for approval? I would be against us moving that direction today unless we get some look at our budget.
Just like any expense, this our due diligence has to be done from a financial standpoint before we move forward. I think that looks like the product is good. The need is there, but we continue to address what might be coming down the pipe
move in that direction today. And Mr. Chair, I would be totally against it. I will say that um July 1st there's a couple things that are going to happen. Um the some of the bundles goes up 66 or $66,000.
Um and that and u we might the discount might not be there. And that's one again one of the reasons why I asked how long they've been in business and how many of the 87 counties and agencies are losing it. I can tell you from just going to the
sheriff's conference um you know twice a year that majority is using Axon just because it's such a great project. Have you talked to the actual users? I've seen the video where it's great because they made the video. Right. Right. Right. Have we Have you talked to
the actual users to verify claims that Yeah. They've um like they offered an LPR program which a lot of our agencies around us are starting to use that as well readers and then having like if Alec PD you know if you go into Alec
they're they have cameras that are axon that they can know who's leaving Alec who's coming into ALEC like it's um there's a lot of agencies that are using it and it's I've never heard anything bad about it. All of Minnesota, the state, state
police, state patrol, BCA, DNR, every majority of people, well, the three biggest agencies in the state of Minnesota, state agencies, you know, have have gone with that product. I think they they do a great job tailoring
to the, you know, the the smaller departments like us, um, trying to try to get it financed and, you know, make it make it work for us. But with with point of I think going forward this
board has to recognize we got to see contracts of four or $800,000 before we act. We still have time yet this month to get questions answered in my opinion and get in on a deadline. I just don't think I think the board needs to say
from a procedure standpoint that we're not going to approve a let's say use the $800,000 contract the first time we see that. I I just think we need to if we're going to do it I think because there's things I thought of, you know, like so I
didn't this started with body cameras and you said you did get a price from VTEC, but I'd never It wasund It was $138,000. Okay. for in squad and body warn cameras. But you know that's something when we talked about it before. I never thought of to ask that question. Yeah.
So I think to be fair, everybody needs to have time to think over questions they may have and then they need to get to YouTube. Okay. Because I mean we can we still have time to have a meeting this month if it's $66,000 we're going to save if that's the route we want to
go. But I I think and it's and it's not a sheriff's office thing. To me, it's a policy or procedure thing that a contract of this size, we need to have, this board needs to have a day or two to think of. Sure. Questions, things that
may not come to to mind sitting right here. Okay. Well, I think there's one more factor we have to keep in mind is we levied $165,000 last year for uh our EMS and we don't really know how that money is going to
get dispersed. committee is working on, but having ambulance services considered as an essential service is a major issue. And so to move on an $800,000 path, but
also not coupling the importance of that, I don't know that we're that's really important to so I al we got to move on this this but we got to we got more stuff and that's where I
think this budget piece is really important and we understand you know it it you know it it started with bodywn cameras. I mean, that's we're we're very clear on that. But, uh, what what Motorola um did or didn't do or, uh, failed to
provide, uh, for lack of better terms was uh, very disappointing and, you know, weren't certainly comfortable moving forward with them if they couldn't guarantee or tell us things on the forefront. Um, and then so we like indicated, you know, we started looking
at Axon and we started looking at GTEC. Um, and there are some local vendors for G-Tech around, but they completely dropped the ball when it comes to we want to know what you have to offer other than the hardware body cam and the and the squad cam. They
don't offer the taser end of it, right? Um, they're like, "Well, this what it's going to cost you for A, B, and C. How about training? Uh what do you want to know? Poor. Very poor. And so, you know, you
look at it to begin with and you think, well, if this is how you are at the beginning of this pro project, how are you going to be through a contract or or a new service or replacement or upgrades? Um so that was not too inviting to us.
And there really is nobody else other than what tax on and there's still a need. We still need these these. And if I remember right, you help me out. The 165,000 was about 3% of our levy.
So 80 is if you do the quick math is a little less than one and a half. So it is impactful and that's why the budget is one thing I think too is you know we talked uh a set of tasers is 50 to
$55,000 with their replacements battery pack cartridges if you could break out you know okay so we have that times if we're getting four of them you know they're replaced every was it two and a half years or I break that up, you know, the the actual
hardware of the camera. How many times was that replaced and what was the cost the known cost today so that it shows us what is actually because I don't know about anybody else but I read through here and I see so much duplication
on what they're describing to be delivered build did it so I think what I'm hearing is what you want me to try to break out each product individually without a bundle price how much it would cost to update if we went and bought the
the cameras. Let's say the body cameras they're getting, let's say we're getting every I don't remember if it was two and a half or five. Okay. So, what is the initial cost of that camera? Yeah. And then if we're getting a new one replaced every two and a half years, you can say,
okay, well, it was $1,500 a camera by 11 by every four, you know, four times. That shows that it's not just a large amount of profit going to Axon in the software. Yep.
Okay. I can get that for I'll get that for the tasers and the spot cameras. Okay. We're getting a little long here. We are. I'm sorry. Yeah. Good information. And then I just
did want to update that the opioid settlement funding um was brought attention through our agency and I did apply um I had four different projects. So you want to do like a dare style project? Yeah, it is. So which the
schools are pretty excited. Then T I can meet with you later about the corridor security camera decided to walk through this morning. Got the maps talked to Darren and so I think we got that covered. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. All right. So I am here to share some information from uh the strategic planning committee um regarding facility maintenance department. Um so the strategic planning committee met uh to
talk about options of how we're moving forward with with the department. Um the committee explored options and I have three options that we explored here that I was going to share um with you all. Um so option one we discussed was
the bidding all services like we did you know we bid for mowing so removal and cleaning. You all got obviously the results on that to know the pricing on that. Um option two was um to hire a building maintenance worker um and kind of
refigure the job description a little bit and adding um some of the facility um director's position into the building maintenance worker position. and then have it supervised by a current department head um that we currently have employed. We talked about or the
committee talked about different options of you know where that fit would be. Um the the big takeaway or the big um thing that came to mind was you know safety security. The position obviously in facilities is you know safety security of the buildings um the fire
extinguisher trainings the safety um the quarterly safety checklists things like that. And so as we were looking at all the safety and security things um we looked at the current department head would be emergency management to oversee that and take on some of those duties as
far as the safety and security as a safety coordinator currently. Um so that was option two. Option three we looked at was hiring um a building maintenance worker currently what we have and hiring a facilities director as the department head for the position. So hiring two
positions uh for the department as the strategic planning committee looked at all the options um the recommendation that the committee came to was option two um as a result in the most cost savings with the same service.
Um so in talking with the committee the committee made the recommendation the personnel committee personnel committee reviewed the options and also would agree that we're recommending option two. Um and so we did look at um reclassifying the building maintenance
worker position to add in some of those duties. Um which would be you know of course the cleaning uh maintenance um and then would report to the emergency management department. Um maintain inventory um do
the trim and prune the trees, monitor, troubleshoot operations and maintenance of all mechanical, electrical, HVAC systems. they'd have a boiler license. Um, and then assist supervisor with heat pumps when necessary, per perform uh preventative maintenance of all lawn
equipment, building and carpet cleaning, daily floor maintenance, things like that. So, in looking at and reclassifying adding, it doesn't change the grade what we currently have. So, the grade will stay the same, the position will stay the same. It just had some different job duties added in there. So um so I'm
coming to the board with the options um and the recommendation by the strategic planning committee the grade wouldn't change for the building maintenance worker from from the prior department head one the other
the other the other one yeah okay y and you're right you said it would refer to to Emergency management. Ashley, can you read the option two again? So, option two would be the building maintenance worker position,
which we currently have. um and it would be under uh the emergency management department. So when we looked at that was safety security. So in the d in the facilities director position it was you know fire extinguisher um checks um it
was boiler checks, HVAC checks, it was um quarterly safety checklists, things like that that um would fall and fit into the emergency management department. So the emergency management would oversee the building maintenance worker.
So who would retain the boiler's license? They were the building maintenance the building maintenance worker would have the boiler's license. Yep. So do I when I when I look at the facility maintenance to me there's two there's the administrative aspect and
then there's the doing aspect and the emergency manager would take over the administrative part of it right and then we would have that other job description to handle the cleaning mowing snow removal that isn't to say the emergency manager doesn't help out when needed but those are those are how you would break
it So, do we anticipate having some contracts for some of the services or no contracts or sporadic like we have in the past like spraying or fertilizing type? Those would continue. Yeah. As
needed, I guess. As needed. Yeah. if we were to do, you know, like I know in the past that they've uh contracted the landscaper, you know, things like that, um, you know, fire extinguisher service, all that. I mean, yeah, you're still going to that to coordinate the fire
extinguisher trainings, to coordinate the, you know, the right to know trainings, the things like that. So, budget wise will probably save me some. Well, we won't know that until the emergency manager job description would
be reclassified. So then we would know the employee part where any contracts or outside service falls. You don't really know that until you get there, right? Potentially a savings. Well, you're potent you're eliminating a department
head position by using an existing department head. I would say I just can't tell you what that is. And if this uh person is sick or gone, then the emergency manager know them if if he was
sick or gone during the storm. So, we discussed that as well. And I think the discussion was in those we know if we know the person is gone, let's say they're on a vacation, you know, we could look at, you know, contracting for that short period of time. Um, but I
don't think we can answer that right now. Well, I'll make a motion here with option three. I'll second the motion. Have a motion and a second. Any more discussion? Yeah, I'd like to chat a little bit here. Um,
do you think that's too much of a workload to get in the applicants of just one guy taking care of, you know, you know, your emergency manager is busy doing a lot of different things than, you know, staying on top of emergency services board stuff and everything else
that the duties entailed, right? I don't know if you're going to get the right individual that you could possibly do all those roles, let alone have a boiler license, let alone, you know, I mean, we got a lot of things that, you
know, that one guy is going to have to take care of, especially in snow events. And I don't know if there's contractors enough that around here that'll fulfill an obligation of part-time work, but I guess we're we're swimming in in
uncharted territory. So what it is is what it is. So if we approve this, then you'd be put note on. So, if approved, um we would approve the reclassified building lanes worker. Um, and then approval to
advertise and then approval to reclassify our uh, I guess approval to um, or have agency management oversee the department
and then I would have to reclassify or add those duties into the job description. But by him overseeing the man emergency management overseeing it wouldn't be a lot of hands-on overseeing just what kind of administrative stuff
would you be doing? Um we had discussed you know the vendors you know as far as the contract if there's contracts you know contacting them um you know the being the safety coordinator the fire extinguisher the safety checklists things the higher level type things that
need to be done um the overseeing of that you do you have any idea what that would do for his rating rating I don't if if the rating went up considerable it' be a more money for that position,
right? Yeah. You know, so we don't really know about that. One part of that we discussed too and that that'll come up when if this goes forward when we reclassify that is that
you know there's going to be an additional pay right that would be retroactive retroacted to today. So let's say we don't get that job that reclassified for three months. We would retroact go in start doing the duties even though it's
not listed. They've been assigned. That make sense? That's that's following what we've done in the past with other department heads that have taken on additional. It's an awful big pile of work. one guy. There's a lot of buildings and there's a
lot of maintenance. Any more discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I opposed. So, this will be a like a one-year probationary deal or So, this will be the building maintenance workers
at union position. So, it' be like a six-month probation. Mhm. Yep. What do you have in the motion of approval for me to So, what I've captured so far is the motion was made by Troy Johnson,
seconded by Ken and now carried for option two. Okay. Right. So what you read is what was approved. So the duties are assigned. You should I can advertise and mercy management is overseeing and
we'll reclassify. Okay. I just want to make sure that it's all in there. Then I think Bill we really need to keep an eye on this one. Maybe maybe we'll get a good fit, but we really need to keep a good eye on this one.
You know, I'm really curious to see what the increase in pay is to emergency management for doing no hands-on stuff, just administrative. You know, that's a big amount, then,
you know, it's just something to keep an eye on. We'll work on that. I guess that's all I have. All right. Under coordinator in your board packet was the Baruda um contract.
Morris Electronics apologized um for getting that to us uh so late. Um but there was some change over at uh Barra Barracuda, so they didn't get get their invoice out. um like they usually do,
but this is a a standard thing that Grant County has done in the past. Um it is the email protection plan. Um and you guys see the the quote from Morris Electronics and it is over the $5,000
um spending policy at $8,442. So I just I'm bringing it to the board for approval. Um and so the motion would be to approve to continue the big through the
email protection service plan. What's the 1,800 quantity? We can't have 1,800 emails. This is what uh Morris Electronics said. The quote that is attached is for one year of the cloud service.
We worked with Stephanie and Darren to get the number of users that you would need. It came out to be 147 the way Barracuda Barracuda counts them. So, we had to go in early. After this, the new discount having change over as a regular price is $5 per
month per user. They're giving it to you for $4.69. So is that 150 times that board 150? That would be times 12 that' be 1800. That's what that is. That's our full year. Yeah.
So then they take the 1,800 times the 4 59 and then you get 84 42. I did ask Morris Electronics um to provide a list of all the different services and contract vendors. Um so we
can start um possibly streamlining these these items that come up throughout the year so they can be included with the contract. So when the contract is signed each year, we have an idea of all these things that come up for renewal throughout the year um for it and and
security. You need a motion for that, Mr. Chair? Yep. I'll make that motion for the 8,44260. Yeah, I'll second it. Motion in a second. Any more discussion?
All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Post carried. Okay. Next on the punch list here. Um with the landscaping project underway at the LEC. Um there is a dumpster that
sits at the northeast corner of the LAC. Um and there in talking with both the sheriff's office and the building committee um twofold when the dumpster sitting on the new pavement and it gets hot makes indents in there plus it's in the way of
of parking for the squads and stuff. And then once the new grass and yard is established around the LAC, um pushing a dumpster, heavy dumpster back onto the grass and then you know the big truck's backing up to it, it would kind of tear
up that area of of the work. So the idea would be to put a 10 by 12 cement slab there that the dumpster sits on. Um, uh, the building committee directed me to reach out to Jesse Shriner as he's doing other small pads around the city of Ela
Lake this summer to see what it would cost to get, um, a small pad for a new LEC. Um, and so he said that they could do that in addition with what they have on. So it wouldn't be a special project for them um, for $1,000 or less. So, I'm
looking for a motion um from the board um bringing forth the recommendation from the building committee for that 10 by12 cement slab on the northeast corner of the LEC for the dumpster. Motion to approve, Mr. Chair. Second.
Motion and a second. Any more discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I post carried. the highway department reached out um to me in regards to additional portaotties
for the July 4th weekend. This is something historically that Grand County has done. Um so I said I brought it to the building committee and the building committee said I should bring it to the full board. So, the additional charges for
two extra units for that holiday weekend um came with sales tax and that include delivery and cleanings um for $500. So, move, Mr. Chair. Second.
Motion in the second. Any more discussion? All in favor signal by saying I. Oppos. Carried. And just for awareness purposes, um we're going to be looking at these types of things so we can
compile a list. So we this is something that can come to the board in the first quarter of the year. Um so the board can approve those kinds of things. So then throughout the year as they come up, we can just plan accordingly and and kind of streamline that process because there's extra stuff that happens out
there for Memorial and Labor Day weekend as well. Um, next on the list, um, when the building committee met last Friday morning, um, there was talk, uh, not knowing what was going to happen,
um, with the direction today, um, about, you know, we've used Service Master twice to clean the courthouse um, in the last few weeks. And so um they were unable to come this week, but when they've come, they've cleaned the public
areas of the courthouse on all three floors. And so, um, the building committee talked about, um, there is kind of a a list of items, and I don't know, for a lack of a better way to describe it, like a deep clean, get in it, get in and and do all the offices
and public areas, as well as um the dusting, the polishing, the brass, and getting things um all done to kind of come to a a moving forward level where we're we're all caught up on the cleaning in the courthouse. And so the
building committee asked me to bring this forward to the board to ask the board to consider um a one-time cleaning of all, you know, of all the things. Um so I I did call
around to a couple places, but of course everybody wants to come and see before they can provide a quote. So, I have um a couple thoughts in my mind that I'll share with you. Um first of all, is this something the board wants to do moving forward? Um if it is and we're looking
to make a motion today, could we make a motion to appro approve something of a service not to exceed a certain dollar amount or is this something we want to research and bring back to the board um at the next board meeting? if this is if
this idea of kind of a deep clean is something that the board would like to do. I think we should probably get a couple to look at it, you know, then we go for find out what the dollar amount would be and go from there, I would say. So, just put it on
the agenda again and bring it back with the research. So, you've had you've had them there a couple times. You know what that cost? Yes, they've had they've been there twice. Um, one not this week, last week, and the week before. And I believe
it was three people. They cleaned all the public spaces of all three floors and all the bathrooms for $600 per day, per time. Yep. So, it's been $1,200 to have them come once a week.
They are not they don't have any openings this week. Um and then we do there is a list of of items, you know, I think it was presented to the board a few few meetings ago of kind of some of those bigger ticket items that don't
necessarily have to on a daily or weekly level, but the dusting, the polishing, the floors. Um, so I'm just looking for direction from the board on how we should move forward.
One thing to consider as well is we have a jur jury trial starting July 5th. That's right. The seventh. Oh, Justin told me the day after the fourth, but yeah, that's maybe he said right now. Yeah. Yeah. Monday the 7th is and that's
expected to go how long? If it goes um if it goes to jury trial, it's my understanding it's was July 7th through the 18th. So, two weeks roughly. So, yes, I would like to have seen it done before that, but we don't meet
again until the first. So the the project you compared to what we've got and done in the past. So what we what we did the last two weeks was just the public areas and all the bathrooms. So what do you anticipate? Would you think it'd be
twice that? They need to they want to come and see because they haven't been in the offices, you know, but there's the floor cleaning in each office. There's the dusting in each office. Um, and that would obviously whatever the board decides to do, we want to make sure we give employees enough notice for when
they're coming because they we'll have to get their offices ready if they would like a a full cleaning like that. Some offices have cleaned their own offices already. Um, I have not done an assessment of each office. Um, well, I
guess back to the trial, I mean, we almost got to decide otherwise pretty soon we're going to be bumping up to July 4th if we delay this thing. And if we don't get on someone's schedule, don't we almost have to decide today, right? So, if you even if you wait till
next week to have another meeting to make that decision, are you going to get on a week on a schedule for the next week? Wait, any of the ones that had quoted us a contract, are they
interested at all, you think, or I would have to reach out and ask them. I haven't been in communication with anyone. Busy next week. What's that? Busy next week. Yeah, I just think and I don't know what the dollar amount is. I I think we should decide to move forward
and let uh Tina run with it. But what that amount is, we need to let her We spent $600 for three people for how many hours they were there. They were there for three
hours. So that was nine nine hours of work in a sense. Um You think $1,500 would get it done? No. No. If they're going to do that polishing and stuff, that's going to take some time. I mean I mean that
that's not a recommendation, but those are just the list of things that have been noted that need to get done. So if you figured three people for a half a day is $600. If you figured three
people for two days, that's 2400. It's not just and we don't know. Jury trial may they may settle it before. Who knows, right? But we know Flea Fest is coming. That's done. Then it's done before that. It should be. Yep. That's when the tourists and and
actually that's getting busier. I mean there's a lot of people that come in on Friday and Saturday to look the place over. And we actually last year we had uh people from the historical society that sit on these SARS Sam's committees. you
know, is if these buildings need things and things like that that, you know, they just want to come and just see just how our maintenance is. And they, you know, she didn't say that, but that's what they're there for because they were the museum as well. So,
I do know people check on us from So, I'll make the motion to authorize the coordinator to to get the courthouse cleaned for up to $2,400, assuming we can get it done by July 3rd. Second,
if it's to me, if it's after July, we can't get it done by July 3rd, it can come back on the first. The price can whatever it takes. Any more discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I oppos.
Here. Um, just forformational purposes, U. Minnesota Gutters is coming to clean out the gutters at the LEC at $350 to clean them out. So, that's scheduled and we'll we'll get done. Um, mowing and
landscaping. Just an update. The ATV park is being mowed once a week by the county highway department. Um, Pineriidge Park, Austin Hennon mows out there and he does that once a week and he um was there each week in May. Um it
hasn't been every week in June just with with the weather um for the short term until things um uh get put in place that were decided today. Uh at the courthouse
interns mow once a week. Um and they will also uh help attend to the landscaping around the courthouse. Um I'm next week is the plan weather permitting when they come to mow they'll do some weed pulling and and trimming
and spot spraying around um the courthouse. Um for the the GCO building here um there's the three small areas right around the flag pole the benches in between the two parking lots. um that is going to be done with the vendor that
already does the green space in the back here by the picnic tables and they too will take care of the the landscape and they said it'll be very minimal. So that is just an update. Um
another uh update is the remodel project at the old sheriff's office um at the courthouse on ground level. Um there's already been um some work done that's been paid for. There's some additional
uh trim and base um and door jam that's already been um made and will work with the vendor to to get those up. And that should finish, I believe, all the trim work and and the doors,
existing doors. Um there was an estimate for a new door um before you walk into the lobby vestable area um for $4,450 and the building committee did decide not to move forward with that. Just finish up with the trim in the door jamb
and then that project will be complete. And then the last um bit of update at the last board meeting, the board directed me to uh create a very simple form that could be used for board
committee appointments. Um and I have uh have made one, but before that gets deployed out to everybody, um I'm going to be going through the um committee assignment sheet that gets, you know, approved and done at the end of the year because I think there's some updates to
it. Um and for today due to time I think um I'll save that uh we don't have to my knowledge right now any terms that are going to be up here in July or August. So we have a little time. I'll just bring this um you know longer update
back at the next board meeting after um we confirm this committee list um go through some of the questions and find out term limits from some of the committees and then I'll bring with that form to the board so you guys can see that before that gets sent out. Um, so just due to time today, I'll I'll save
that for next time. And that is all I have on my punch list. Unless there's questions for me. Okay. Board committee update. [Music] Yeah. All right. Mark, can you hear us?
Yes, I can. Are you guys ready for me to go through my stuff? Start. I'm sorry. You can start. Wonderful. Well, good morning everyone. My name is Mark Goldberg here representing David
Drownan Associates. I wanted to provide you with kind of an overview for those who have not been made aware of what's been going on with the class and com study. So, just want to provide just kind of a general overview of DDA, what we're trying to do with this, and what we found. Um, there will be time at the
end for questions, but I hate hearing myself kind of drone on. So, please, if you have questions, just feel free to ask it at any point. So DDA has been doing this for a long time over 25 years. Uh but about 10 years ago what happened was our clients
started coming to us and asking for help on compensation and HR related issues. So my partner Dr. Tessa Melvin put together the class and comp group with you know for DDA. I joined it will be five years ago this past no this coming November. Um of my 29 years of doing
this over half of it is specifically within the public sector. been with TDA for again almost five years. Before that I was with Arthur J. Gallagher helping to lead their class and comp group public sector class and comp group for about six and a half years. Before that I was with the University of Minnesota for a couple of years and the
Metropolitan Council. So I've been in public sector for a long long time. What we're trying to do with this is to give you a class and comp system that makes sense, one that is internally equitable. Meaning when you line the jobs up within the county, that
hierarchy is one that makes sense and it makes sense within different departments. So you might have the sheriff's office have a particular hierarchy and some jobs from particular grades and another hierarchy within finance and the new might have a job at
grade 15 in finance and a job in 15 in sheriff's office. Okay. Well, does it make sense even if the work is completely different when we evaluate it, does it make sense for those jobs to be in the same grade? That's one of the things we're trying to do with this as well as make sure that it's competitive
against the external market. And I'll explain what the market looks like and how we got that information in just a few minutes. But not here to do staffing, not here to do an org structure analysis, not here to cut anyone's cost or cut costs or cut
anyone's pay. No one will lose pay because of this. People will only do better. Um, my friend who's the HR director at Blue Earth County, Laura Elvrock, I'm stealing this from her, says everyone will do better. Some will
do better than others. So, no one's going to have their pay reduced because of this. So, what we want to do is take a look at other counties and say, you know, what factors do you want to include in this? Part of it's going to be who's around you. We can't get away from that, but that shouldn't be the
only determining factor. You have to look at population size. You have to look at what services you provide. You know, who are you losing people to? Where where do you recruit people from? Not just what's right around you. That has to be part of it. But that cannot be the sole determining factor.
So, this is the list of comparisons. You guys as a board have seen this before, right? You're all good with that. I'm going to take silence as yes, it's okay. So, when we go through this, what we're
trying to do is find matches. It's not going to be exact. Even for positions like a police officer where you'd assume everything is pretty much the same. There's always going to be some differences from one county to the next. So, it's not, well, this has to be an exact match. We say 80%. It's it's
there's no way to really quantify it, but mostly does this job mostly reflect the job within your county. And we are pretty careful about the data we use. Um Ashley and I have spent a lot of time going through all the rows of data to make sure that these matches are
appropriate. Now, plus or minus 10% is considered market. What does that mean? Well, it means you could be 9% below or 8% above. In both cases, that would be considered market. That is not me. That is actually a Department of Labor standard. And what
it says is plus or minus 10% encompasses most people who are fully competent in their job, but they're paid at different rates for a lot of different reasons, some of which are listed here. Could be your previous experience, could be performance, could be higher certification level. There's lots of different reasons, but plus or minus 10%
is considered market competitive. So with that, the structure we're proposing for the county is going to put the minimums pretty much right at market 0.25% higher. I'd say that's exactly right there. And the max is just going to be a titch higher, maybe 5 a.5%,
5.48% to be precise, higher than the market. That is a highly competitive structure. Meaning again, you're within in this case about 5%, but you're right around there and in a good spot as a board. Does that align with what you
were hoping for? Again, I think silence probably means it is okay. So, we had to evaluate all the jobs and a job evaluation system is just a way to figure out the hierarchy in your organization. Now, every single city and
county, every quas public quasi public agency within the state of Minnesota has to have a defined job evaluation system that they're using because of the Minnesota pay equity legislation. And it's just a way to say, you know, how do you set that hierarchy and how do you determine pay?
What you chose was the Jet system, which is what many of our clients do choose. Um, Jet was designed specifically for the public sector and it's a really, really comprehensive tool. Has seven different factors. I'm going to kind of show you what those are in a second. And it it does look at the job from a number
of different ways. Um, but and I want to emphasize this, we're looking at the job, not the person. How long someone's been doing their job does not matter for this. How well they're doing their job does not matter. We take the people out of this. This is the position, not the
employee. So Jet looks at things from these seven perspectives. One is qualifications, meaning what is the minimum qualification you need to do this job below this threshold. You're not doing it. You're not hiring a lawyer if they haven't passed the bar. You know,
someone might have 25 years of experience and a PhD, which is great. Let them do their job effectively, but if that person were to leave, is that 25 years and a PhD the minimum you're looking for, or is it a bachelor's in five years? It's below this threshold, you ain't getting this work
decision- making. what kind of decisions are inherent in the job? What are they kind of controlling and what happens to the county if something breaks? Who's going to be ultimately responsible for that? There's a couple of other sub factors within there as well. Um leadership and if you're in a
centralized function like HR, finance, kind of what's the impact on the organization? Um problem solving is how technical is the job to do? And similar to decision-m something breaks, what happens? Relationships is a fancy way of describing communication. is who are they talking to and what are the nature
of those discussions? Are they giving directions to the bathroom or are they standing up in front of a state agency talking about complex issues? Physical effort, how much you got to lift, how often you got to lift it. Mental effort, how mentally focused do you need to be in this job and the frequency of that?
And then hazards and environment. What are you exposed to in this job? You know, it's different working the office versus being out on the highway doing maintenance. there's there's different different levels of risk there. So again, we're only looking at the work content. As I mentioned, performance,
longevity, how long someone's been doing their job does not matter for this for evaluating the job. We use the market information and the points we assign to the job to put together a salary structure. And so there's going to be distinct ranges and grades within that. They're going to
have a minimum and a maximum. Um, and we put those together using the market information, saying, "Okay, we assigned this job this many points. Here's what we think the grade is going to be. How does that compare to the market?" And then salary range width means how far is it from that minimum to the
maximum? And there's no right or wrong answer around that. Most times in the state of Minnesota, 28 to 38% is most common, but I have done it as low as 15% in the state and as high as 70%. Um, outside of the state of Minnesota, I have a I had a client in Florida that
had 120% range width. That meant is one of the salary ranges might have gone from 50,000 to 120,000. Um, there, like I said, there's no right or wrong, but generally within Minnesota, it's 28 to 38%.
And then, as I said, we use that information, put together salary range structure. You heard me mention a little bit earlier, maybe you've got a grade 15 and you got a couple jobs in there. one's in finance, one's in um law enforcement in the sheriff's office. And and that's okay because when we
evaluated the jobs, the points came out kind of similar. So, okay, you know, then that would make sense to to put them in there. It's not just every job has their own grade. There are 17 grades that we've looked at. They're anywhere from 5 to 12% apart from each other, meaning grade 1 to
grade two might be 5% difference or 7% difference. You don't want to have it be any less than 5% because if a one grade is only 3 or 4% different from each from the one above it, there's too much overlap and there's not enough there to really distinguish it. So 5% is the
minimum that I will use. I don't usually go much over 15% because then it's too much of a jump from one grade to the next. And the way I make those determinations from one grade to the next is looking at the jobs and trying to get it to where you you as a county want to be relative to the market.
You've got 13 steps within each grade. Um, most times 8 to 12 steps is common, but 13 is is, you know, just a little bit above that. Um, the steps are anywhere from 3 and a half to 2% apart from each other. So, there's a little bit of a difference earlier on in the
structure. The increases from one step to the next are a little bit higher because the goal in a 13step structure, step five, six, seven, right around there, that's a round market. So you want to get people up to a market competitive rate if they start at the bottom of the structure as quickly as
possible. So you guys are at 39.82% range width, meaning you're right around where where most places are. Again, 28 to 38% is common and you're just a tiny tiny bit above that. So really what we're looking at is for
the board to confirm everything and then you know you guys will in close session may have discussions around how people are placed within there and then how quickly to implement this. What questions can I address for you as a board? Okay, let me ask this. Does this stuff
make sense? Yeah. And it looks like you're on the top end of the spread that 38 or 39% kind of like, you know, you're not at the bottom, you're kind of at the top. So that makes sense.
You know, I've heard from different departments that, you know, that they can't move here when they first start out on a scale that we have currently have that no no family can move here at at that wage, you know, especially like high rate, you
know, high equipment for people, you know, heavy equipment operator some things like that. And that's why a lot of the, you know, these contractors swallow up a lot of these good, you know, really good people because they can make, you know, a third of as much
in a six-month time frame versus working for us for all year long. So, it's better to start up, you know what I mean, on the top end of, you know, this range, if you want to call it that.
So that's that's reassuring. That's about all I got to say. So what's the next step? Next step is is for you to approve the the proposed structure. And what we're approving so far is
really what's been done. Nothing that's come yet. It's just what where we are today. Is that a fair statement? It is a state. It is a fair statement that here's what you're proposing. Here's what you'd like to implement. We're talking about an implementation of
January 1st, 26. And then obviously There's going to be negotiations and you'll have the information for negotiations that that's been shared with with Ashley and with the county coordinator and Justin.
So, you need a motion to approve where essentially where we're at. I'll make that motion. Okay, we have a motion. Do we get a second? I'll second it. Motion and a second. Any more discussion?
Not. All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Carried. All right. All right. Thank you, Mark. Thank you so much. Have a good day. Bye. Board committee updates. Uh, budget
finance. We met with board department heads and we'll we've got more scheduled for the first, I believe. So, we're not really diving in. We're just getting familiar with budgets and the
communications and the the full-fledged work hasn't really started yet. That fair to say, Tina? Yeah, I think it's an introductory meeting for um department heads to ask questions um and for the auditor to um
you know educate us on on how the budget works and then uh for the commissioners on the committee to ask questions and kind of just start those discussions. Um so then when we meet in the future we have a really good fa you know
foundation to work from. Solid Waste Committee scheduled to meet next week. You're raking up your eyebrows. Oh, there it is. Billing Committee, I think everything addressed in Tina that we talked about, right?
Yeah. There was just some questions that we needed some answers to right away and then kind of needed to wait till today to see what the board decided and move forward personnel committee.
I don't know we have an update beyond where we are. Oh, not that I'm aware of highway committee. Billy's going to take that one next. Bill, your highway committee real
quick. I got it pulled over here. Okay, this is an update from the highway committee on the maintenance side finishing shouldering and crack sealing and they started top cut mowing of ditches and regrowing of roads
and they will be painting crosswalks and road patching in the next couple weeks. On the construction side of things, county room 43 in Wendell is ongoing. One small issue with how the city storm sewer connects to the county sewer.
Storm sewer, I'll call it that. But that is being resolved. They got that taken care of then? Sounds like I'm going to make a trip over there at some point and go look and see what they're what they're doing. All right. Trunk Highway 55 over the
Mistinka began yesterday will remain closed until the beginning or mid summer, midepptember, excuse me. Culbert work on PA 54 and 2 for the
ditch 3 project will begin on Monday, June 23rd. A detour will be in place and county road 34 by Pineidge Park will begin some sometime after the CASA 54
and two project. No specific date has been set. And under other items of note, according to the mind bridge funds, if you want to call it that, we can expect to construct the county road
52 bridge, which is Harrison Bridge next summer since the legislature funded the local bridge replacement program. We won't receive an official funding notice until October or November.
And that's the end of the report. Public safety. We met last week with the mayors and they were in agreement that building would be done quarterly. Um
so then my question for and the they seem to favor the concept of what we do like with solid waste where we we don't just do a 3% increase every year. They would like to establish a percentage of actual. So,
what we would do is go back to 2024 and find out take the building payment out of it, but take everything else that it takes to run that office. And then what they paid in 24 would become a you turn that into a percentage.
And then we would base 26 off of what that that dollar figure is. Everybody with me so far? Yeah. But then going forward like for in 26 we will look back at actual expenses of 25. Put that percentage into
play. We would notify them by April 1st. Here's what the dollar figure is. They would notify us by June 15th if there was a disagreement, misunderstanding, whatever you have. Otherwise, we would proceed as though the contracts are so it would not be a like a three-year
contract. It would be a year-to-year. there would be a defined way out for the county, the cities. Justin will do his thing to to write that in there. So, does that concept I haven't done any more on figuring out what that rate is
until this board is in agreement with going forward with that? I think it'd be easier to budget if they did like what you're talking about. Well, right. And it gives the cities I mean the counties do it we do it for
solid waste so it's not I don't view it as a big thing though and it shares in the actual because otherwise we just do 3% and then when we add things like incentive pay they're still only getting that 3%. So it it's a
better reflection on what it's actually costing. So, well, and I know we talked about I'll say cleaning up, but getting the true budget. You you mentioned the building payment, but what about the cost that we're in building maintenance? Is that going to get rolled into the
sheriff's? So, that is one of the things that the budget committee is working on with the auditor's offices, not just law enforcement. We're breaking out. So, we'll know because currently it's in buildings and maintenance, I believe, is where it is. We don't know. Well, you
can't easily go and just say, "Well, here's Pineriidge Park. What it cost? Here's the ATV part." Going forward, we're not pulling those back out. But going forward, we'll be able to say not just the law enforcement, but all of the So, yes, we're going to have Chad's
going to put in where we'll know whether it's utilities or cleaning or all of those other things that go into that building. Yes. And I think I think that system that you're proposing is probably a lot smoother because it's got timelines on
it, right? You got you got April and and you know, no more you know, August information or it'll it'll probably be better smoother to go that route. Yeah. So,
okay. I just wanted to make sure that we were still on the route the board wants to go on and we'll try to get some of those because we're going to have to get those numbers put together. what that I'm assuming that percentage will have to go into the contract and they did talk about removing currently
there's a living requirement for each community and they talked about removing that and I don't know if there'll be more discussion on that but it was it was brought up and it it's the day and age we live you know, to back in the day when we
started the contracts, you know, that was a big selling point. And it it is I I understand that it's it's a different era now, but it still doesn't that squad car sitting in those towns does wonders
for how the bad guys think and but you know that it's just how it is. And what I brought up to the granted there was only four mayors, but I believe and I could be wrong, but I believe if they really wanted one living in their town, they could offer like property tax
abatement to try to recruit one to come and live. No, there's no doubt about that. I think that should be it for two solid waste. Well, we're working on
maybe years of old style mandatory non-mandatory routing and cities and Britson and some mayors but environmental services are working on that and so we don't really know where it's at until we the next meeting.
Right. Right. Well, I've been to Palm Dair, Pelican Lake, and Barrett Lake townships to let the individuals know on mandatory routes that changes are coming. What you know, the the big one is
becoming volume based and then standardizing those costs. So, that first initial contact has been made. I think we need to have a meeting somewhere this summer and yeah strategic planning
we haven't met since the last recommendation where we've got today's Horizon Horizon u I'm part of the financial planning committee with Verizon so Horizon is basically run with grants
from and they do a heck of a job with getting some of some of them have been pulled back. I couldn't tell you what they all are but some have been pulled back and so we just finalized our preliminary budget for following year
and we came we came back we were about 130,000 in the red but we all talked and it's not a time to panic u they have they have the reserves to cover it this year so we uh we decided to the biggest
piece was to leave the county's portion alone for what we levy for Verizon. So like Grand County, we get all of our public health needs met with a $46,000 levy. Now 30 years ago when I started working with two or three employees per
public health and I'm I'm sure the budget was over that 30 years ago. So that that's that's a good deal and and does a good job running that department. and Greta as a financial person and
Betsy Mills is a second second kind of in command there. Her and Greta kind of share that responsibility. But so so that's where we're at with that. We're we're not going to panic. We just hope that some of that money stays out there and we can keep functioning at a
reasonable rate to the county because it's a good deal for all of us counties that five that that was a good venture to go on 10 years ago. Yeah. Western Bur. Anybody have anything on that? That's kind of a big that's more of a qu
answering questions that may come. I don't know where I don't know where we start. Right. You know that I guess the one update is that the the contract should be proposed contract
that can be changed obviously to bring Traverse County takeover services for Traverse County. should be if everything's still on schedule, the executive committee should see that next Wednesday. The board will see it next
time we meet at the 11th. I don't think the budget committee has met yet, have they? You're on. No. No, no, not I haven't seen anything. I think that I think we have to get the
preliminary to get that contract approved that'll fill out everybody's share. Yeah. So then I have one more question. Um the what we were talking about with the sheriff u are we going to have a special
meeting then in before July first so that we can make a decision on on their requests there. I think it would be prudent if you're if there's interest in doing it and you can save $66,000. I think it would be
prudent. I just don't I don't like the and we've done it. I know we've done it previously, but a contract of that size being approved the same day, but I think there should be I I think I think so. So, and if they got any more stuff to check up on. Yeah. But I mean, even if
they don't have any more stuff to check up on, then we got to make a decision. Yes or no, right? By the end of June. Yep. Well, and I think probably the most key statement that was made was made by Troy
when he asked what are some of the savings with this program and if the reporting and some of the and it still is going to get back to the budget not to see a budget and approve
$800,000 in 10 years. How good is it? We have got to see the numbers and I support it but not without the numbers. Nope. So I think we got to
just make sure they'll do it then. Uh then we got to have a meeting for a yes or no there. And and with that I would look for direction from the board. Um when would you like to have that meeting
so we can make sure we well meet my only suggestion would be to you know end of June there so that they got time to work on that stuff. So and the reason I'm asking this because um next week is the last week of June and just to meet all
the public notice requirements to get things out. Um, do we want to set I'm asking I don't have an opinion, but we want to set it today. What we want to do? Yeah. So we can make sure we get an agenda and
meeting to people and make sure the sheriff's office Friday has time to to do the things that Oh, a week from next Friday. Week from this Friday. Yeah. 27th you're talking. I'd be back then. I'm going fishing them. Oh, you're going
to have to get your priorities straight. They kind of are. I I will be gone, but if everybody else is here to pursue forward, what was the date? 27. 27. Well, I just threw that out. When are you around? I don't have anything next
week that's available. And plus, if they were gathering information about breaking out those costs, the more time we could give them to break those out, the better, right? Because we don't know. I suspect their schedule fluctuates and depending on how
busy they are. Otherwise, they have the I mean the 30th, too, but I just want to make sure they have enough time to do what they need to do since it's the 30th and Monday. Yeah, it is. That would probably be best. Well,
is it or are they sure? I My availability is only first thing in the morning on that Monday and you were the sheriff. How are your Monday mornings usually? I can't be busy. But, you know, I guess we can, you know, something for
something that magnitude, you know, I think they can get here. They got people coming to court, I suppose. Yeah. And I I can't remember. Help me out with the $66,000. Was that what was it that
that's the price going up as of July 1st? Just seen these deals. I mean, we went from a $55,000 matching grant. How many months ago to an $800,000 10year requ,000?
It's going to go up over ahead without a budget. It all started for a $22,000 grant. What's that? It all started over $22,000 grant. I It's ludicrous to not have a budget and spend that kind of money for this county. When would the
board like to happen next? Just do it on Friday. The 27th 9:00, right? Yeah. That works for me. June 27th 9:00. Yep. You said you won't be here though.
I won't be here. Doyle, you've got a personnel committee meeting at 8:30 on Monday. On Monday. Well, you're going to Friday or Yeah. So, what do you want? 9:30.
How long are meetings? Well, depends. Not with me. Not with you. Prairie personnel. Okay. They're usually an hour. 9:30 or 10, you should be done. We can do it at 10. 10 hour. Let me take Don't worry. Anybody got anything else?
They'll release us until 1:00 then. And they're coming here. We'll be meeting with Cordov. And we got a hand out you guys and I'd appreciate it if you guys got some time for it on from the board. That's our veterans memorial. I do sit
on that for Are you serving hot dogs? We're serving. It's going to be donuts and coffee and lemonade and water. Way to go. That's what you get. It's a two-hour event. Make time for it if you can. Okay. We got It's It's a 10 year
anniversary. I really like hot dog belly. The north.