Oh, sorry. She'll be on 82. >> Wagner's been three and 8. Look at that. And they're in pretty good condition here. >> It's up to you.
[Music] How many >> Well, it's 8:30 and we'll uh start this work session. It's uh I'm going to talk a little bit about firearms for hunting legislation. We've got conservation officer here.
We just uh let him we'll let him talk about the upcoming uh blog and stuff and rifle and what's your take on it? And
well, I think an introduction is probably warrants an introduction here. If uh nobody knows Ryan, Ryan Brown, here's our new local game. Word. How long you been here now, Ryan? >> Uh three and a half years. >> Three and a half years. He lives right across the school. Right across from the
school, west of the school. Um very active in our community. Um the hell resource for us. Law enforcement backed us up on a number of calls and everything. We pick on them a lot. Um, all the men minnow mounty, the carp
cops, the duck detective, >> sergeant, >> surgeon sergeant, captain green jeans, all kinds of different things. But, uh, but it's all fun and game. Yeah, he's a hell of a resource for us and very welcome
within our within our office. So, yeah. >> Well, thank you. >> Oh, you're welcome. >> Um, yeah. So, I'm here. I wanted to answer questions for you. We kind of got guidance on this a little bit to where I can't say whether I would go one way or
the other. Um I can answer questions on if you guys have certain topics that you want to discuss about it. Um one thing I can say is that I don't again you're looking for the the sheet or talking to Barb. Um by
>> by March 1st you guys got to make a decision. January 1 is when the law goes into effect on whether it's gonna be rifle or shotgun. Um by March 1st, you have to essentially let the county or the state know that what you want me to work for. So what do you want me to
enforce? If it's going to stay shotgun, then you need to draft up an ordinance. Again, that's the part I don't know. That's you guys. We have to draft up an ordinance and let the state know how you want me to enforce it. Um, if you guys don't do anything by March 1st or you decide, hey, we want to go rifle, then
it's going to you don't have to do anything and then it's just automatically rifle for you. Um, this kind of opens up the door a little bit with uh you guys can by the county board, you can make different zones within your
guys area. So, Ashby's out of this. So, we'll just take Ashby out cuz that's already rifled. But, I'm just going to give an example. If you guys are like, you know, Herman's going to be rifle, uh, Wendle's going to be shotgun, whatever. You divide the county in a
bunch of different zones. That's too much of an ordinance now. And I can't enforce that. I can't enforce ordinances at all except this one. If it stays one or the other. So once you divide it, they're going to be responsible for the shotgun or rifle zone. I can't do it.
Um, so essentially what I'm saying is if you're going to do it, stay one or the other. That's my only suggestion to you guys. With that, I have any question at all? >> I guess I had a question is uh I mean I don't care one way or the other cuz I
don't shoot hunt deer but you know when you get where it's flatter I would just people have asked if you know maybe a rifle is too much. I don't know. I guess I I've never shot a rifle so I don't know. Well, so you know, we had a Ryan moved
in yesterday and we had a discussion further about about this meeting coming up and pros and cons to it and um the Minnesota Deer Hunt Association has some some relatively pretty good information out there as far as slug versus rifle
and it was 1942 uh when slug was decided again certain parts of the state of Minnesota and that was as a result of gear numbers being relatively very And so the thought process behind that
was was taking away the the higher accuracy of the rifle moving it to slug which wasn't so accurate back in the 1940s um to bring deer us but not lessen the numbers of the deer hunters. Well as technology has moved forward obviously
you know rifled slugs and rifle barrels and all that stuff you know the slug guns have gotten u you know very accurate. I can't speak personally about it. I don't I don't slug on anymore. Um but I know in conversations with many
they are very accurate. Now to your question or your comment do not as far as you know on the flatter ground out west um you know one one thing that's been brought to my attention is well um you know people are concerned about
that right you know rifles going further. Well, you know, if you know anything about coyote hunting, you know, you're allowed to shoot high powered rifles at night with infrared scopes, you know, flats. And so people question
the safety aspect of that as well. So, you know, it's the information that I have in addition, you know, to what Ryan have. So, it's my two cents words. Maybe you want to talk about
we do multiple we would be liable enforcing all those >> yeah multiple ordinances out of the deal what's rifle versus a shotgun >> I don't think we're really interested in
>> well that to me doesn't make any sense because it's tough to enforce that you know if you're in one township that part It's it's all or nothing. So, >> right. >> I mean, maybe, you know, if they did decide to go slugs, they could probably
keep Ashby in that rifle zone, you know, cuz some stays >> Ashley's removed from this because it's already rifle. >> Yeah. Already zone. So, east of the interstate that line does not get changed regard. >> So, that's my feeling. It's either Paul
or not. I've had a few people from the Herman area talk to me about allowing the rifle because, you know, they they want to they want to have the rifle down there. Got an email from a guy. So,
from my perspective, I guess >> I can say what I see in the past um the last couple years. So, the way the shotgun zone is now, you can have illegal shotgun or illegal handgun. The definition of a handgun is pretty muddy. I don't remember the exact sizes right
now, but there's a certain barrel length and or overall length right now for legal handgun. Well, I have been seeing a lot of people carrying around, you know, AR style platforms with like a 300 Blackout or 308 in the shotgun zone and I can't do anything about it. It's it's
a shotgun zone, but it fits the definition of a handgun. >> Yeah. >> That's one thing I'll say that I've noticed. >> Thank you. If you went shotgun or if you went rifle, people could still use the shotgun if they >> Yep. So the rifle zone just is kind of a
catchall. So now you can use muzzle loader, you can use shotgun, you rifle, handgun. You can use pretty much everything you want in the rifle. But if it's say shotgun, then it's only shotgun or legal handgun. And again, I've seen that trend of people starting to go towards those AR platforms. >> Right. >> So does every county need to make this
determination? >> It's everything that's already in the shotgun zone. So up in Cast Lake or something like that, they don't need to. >> But everything's south. >> Everything's south. Yep. >> And who made this decision to go this direction and put that decision on under the counties?
>> That was just that was the state of Minnesota saying that we're going to finally go rifle, but we're going to give the counties an opportunity. We're not just going to force the counties to follow our route in a sense. So you have to decide. they're putting it in your guys' hands to decide whether you want to go shotgun or rifle because there's
some counties I believe way down south when this was starting to gain traction that they were like, "No, we want to stay shotgun." So, they were really fighting for it. And I think that's why the state's like, "Okay, we'll allow you to do an ordinance and then our conservation officers can still enforce that ordinance. Otherwise, I can't enforce any ordinances."
>> There's latitude in that legislation, though, for you know, whatever you guys decide you want to do. question for you. There's latitude to allow, you know, counties to do that versus just, you know, shouting it up the backside. Um, what are the other you you represent or actually work more
counties than just Grant like Traverse? >> Nope. I do I was covering that for a while when it was vacant. >> Okay. >> But no, I cover all of Grant County and then I cover up to Dalton over to Eagle Lake. So, I cover a little bit of Ottertale, but >> other than that, Grant County. So, what are the other counties around us doing
like Traverse and Wil? >> Uh, >> what are they doing? >> That that I don't know. I don't know. I don't The other conservation officers in those areas that I know of anyway aren't doing talking to their county boards at all. They're just allowing them to do it whatever they decide.
>> Right. >> Um, I was asked to be here. I wanted to I heard you guys had some questions or whatever. So, I wanted to make sure be as transparent as possible to see what if I could should give you guys information you didn't already have. I think it'd be a smoother transition if all the bordering counties of us allow
for rifles. So then, you know, you're not on the county line. You can't shoot here, but you can shoot here. You know, that that might get, you know, where there's trouble. >> Absolutely. >> So, one thing what I'd like to see and that I'm just one person on the board is I think we should do an education thing
and get people that they kind of know. I don't care. It's up to you guys on what you want to do. But I think we should have some type of a forum or meet meaning again more than just this. So to get people involved and educated, things like that as far as backdrop and you
know kids and you know cuz these rifles if they're shooting 300 win mags, they're going to go out their ways and they're going to shoot bigger longer flatter shooting guns than just ARs and things like that. So, you know, choice of gun, choice of location, your
backdrop, and and an education piece at the same time, I think should be conveyed. Now, whether we do it or not, and you guys are going with it or whatever we want to do here, >> like a public comment. >> Yes. Oh, I thought Billy was volunteering to
do firearm safety. >> That's what it sounded like to me. >> This is They're the enforcement right here. So >> that's not enforcement. That's education. >> Well, but when you guys are here too as this education piece, you know what I
mean? You're publicly if the board, you know, did make a decision on how they want to vote. >> So Ryan, make sure I'm clear. Does the county have to make their decision or is there a default? >> The default is by March 1st. If you guys
haven't made your decision, the county's rightful, >> right? So, I guess my question is and and I did talked a little bit with Tina, we do have that stay in your lane ordinance. Is this one >> It's not an ordinance. It's a resolution. >> Resolution. Excuse me. >> Thank you for correcting me.
>> Is this one of those situations that we shouldn't be weighing in on? >> It specifically says counties can decide. So, it been thrown into your lane. >> Well, not necessarily. >> Well, no. So, they're they're giving Okay. I want to make sure I have a
chance. Um, so the state said, "Hey, the entire state of Minnesota will be rifle next year." It's in effect January 1st. They're saying it will be rifle. However, they're giving the counties that are already in the shotgun zones. If you want to create an ordinance that contradicts that, you are allowed to do
that. And the county, the conservation officer can enforce that ordinance. It's the only ordinance that I can enforce. If you guys decide to draft up an ordinance for shotgun, that's kind of what it's saying. Otherwise, default. Yeah. If you guys don't do anything by March 1st, it's rifle. >> This has legal authority. I think what
you're referencing is is when we're asked to weigh in with a statement that has nothing to do carries. This would change law. >> I did visit with Justin briefly about that resolution and he said it was like
uh the county board making a position statement. So, an example would be >> political statement. Yeah, like when they changed the Minnesota play the the county board, you know, having a statement, a position statement about how they feel about that. That's the
kind of stuff that resolution address, not this stuff. >> And and I I fully agree with that. Somebody has made the decision for the state. We need to make the decision unless it's
going to be shot gun. You know, I I said at the last meeting, I'm concerned living not in the bottom of the river valley, but on the side that a rifle projectile is going to travel a long way. in it. You go lower in elevation than the
individual who shot it, it's going to travel that much farther. Today, I don't know that I'm terribly worried about being rifle as opposed to shotgun. If we looked at how many farm sites you had around here 50, 60 years
ago where there were farm sites all over, that would be a different story. I don't see the massive rise. You know, this year we're schedu unless it's done doesn't stop rain, but this year we'll have the corn essentially gone. There won't be the
drives through corn fields of people. If you have individuals hunting from an elevated stand, it's less danger. And I see more, you obviously see more of what people are doing for hunting, but there's more elevated standing than driving today, isn't there?
>> Yeah, I should say that. Yeah. I mean, so to me that makes it considerably safer than if you've got 10, 12 guys on the ground walking through corn where they can't see each other. >> I would say the second weekend what I've noticed is people start to get
desperate. So they start to walk more, start driving woods. The second weekend's a little different, but first weekend everybody's sitting in the deer stands for the most part. That's my egg. The one question I had is so can we change this? And I'm not
proposing we change back and forth a lot, but is it March 1st of every year or is it just this next March 1st we have to make a decision and then we stay? >> From what my guidance was told or what I was told is by March 1st you guys make your decision that is the decision until
the end of time unless you guys decide I want to change it again. Do you >> Oh, it can be ch >> It can be changed, but they're not going to constantly bug you. And if you don't bring it up by March 1st, then it's going to resort to rifle. No, it's >> if you guys remove that ordinance, you know, six years from now, let's say you
could make the ordinance for the shotgun zone and then you remove it six years from now, then it's just going to resort to what the the state has. That's right. But you would have to let them know by March 1st. The reason the March 1st deadline is there is because they need time to change all the regulation books. They're going to put this county, the
zones that we have, they're going to put that in the regulation book so people can know, okay, in this zone of shotgun, this rifle, which is going to cross over into other areas of, let's say Stevens goes rifle and you guys go shotgun, there's going to be a little conflict
there where people go crossing the road. But that's again, that's for me and Emily. That's who's the warden down there. that's being her to decide or figure out. >> What I was getting at is that and and I can't site another example, but there's
things that come out of St. Paul that potentially we could differ, but we don't. Well, this has come out of St. Paul. Unless we make a decision to differ,
it defaults to the rightful. And we don't need to make a decision because no decision is truly a decision. It all boils down to know your target, what's beyond >> and an education piece. So just get the public sentiment and an
education piece before March. However you guys want to do it, however you want it, but I think it needs to be a comment, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. You don't >> you don't
>> that it is what it is, right? >> Yeah. I think uh that you emailed Barb >> there was a packet that was sent or maybe sent an email. I don't 100% know again that's the part I don't know from the state that they sent all the information I'm kind of saying now is
all going to be in that packet and what you guys needed your steps moving forward or they want to go shotgun or rifle. I don't know where that went. >> I think it was before my time and somewhere in transition I got missed. So I'm reached out to ask them to resend it. So get the packet of information. So you're saying that if if they stayed
shot or if they went to the right and couple years down the road, you know, maybe received complaints that they don't want right, they do have the authority to make that ordinance at that time. As far as I was tracking, yes, that's what they're saying that it's it's that state statute that made this
rifle forever says that the county can change their ways. They can you guys can do what you want. Um >> five years >> with certain Yeah. within certain like hey by March 1st kind of thing for the next year whatever just so they can change the regulation book. People know people can actually see where they're
hunting. >> But it doesn't say in the law you have to make a decision by March 1st of 2026. because that would all give us one chance. >> Pull it up right now. Uh notification of fire restriction during deer hunting option. Uh Mar by
March oops by March 1st, 2026, commissioner of natural resources must notify county boards and county sheriffs of the option available to counties in the shotgun zone to adopt an ordinance under Minnesota statute section 97B.031 subdivision 7. 97. Yeah.
031. >> That's in the revisor, >> right? Is that >> this is we get uh emails that change all the changes that's going to happen with the the DNR step at some point. So, this has all the new updates. They're not
getting revisor yet. 97B.031 is, but it doesn't have the new language. Did that say that the commissioner had to notify county boards that they could change? >> Yeah, that was the thing that the packet or whatever that was supposed, >> right? That doesn't say we have to make
a decision by that date. >> Default. >> Yeah, I just read that. >> You got to have a deadline. >> Well, yeah, the deadline is March 1st to make the decision, but if it doesn't say 2026 for the decision, that was for the
notification the way I heard it. Yeah, that I guess that that makes sense. Maybe you guys don't have to do it this year and you didn't have a trial run. >> Well, right. Because I haven't heard a lot of uproar about going back to China
and until they do, I don't >> that's my thoughts on it. Going back say that again when sitting upward about going doing the shot going back to shotgun. You haven't heard much talk or >> I haven't had a lot of people asking me
to make it to go back to shotgun. >> Like I said I unless we're going to go shotgun I don't think we should make any decision. But the state of statute >> stay as is. >> Well, we don't I mean, yeah, we don't want it to go to shotgun. You don't have
to do anything. >> Yeah. You say nothing about it. >> Absolutely. That's that way we have not put our stamp on a change that >> Right. That's maybe controversial or not. >> Okay. Right. >> It goes a little in line what I was
saying and I know it's different, but it's a it's a kind of a position in a sense or lack of a position. I'd try to use a cannon to block shoot. >> Yeah, I'm not opposed to you being able to use a cannon over there.
>> I'm suspect that he might have something to say. >> Well, he comes to my place anyway, so it doesn't matter. 31. >> So, right. Has anybody brought up >> anybody brought up buckshot? >> I mean, that's why they call it buckshot. I mean, in the southern states,
>> they could they shoot >> with buckshot restricted. >> You're right. >> Yeah. I haven't heard anything on that one. >> Okay. Just checking. >> Do was just benching a cannon. >> That's not buckshot. That's one shot. >> That's why they call it bucksh shot. >> What? >> That's where you get people hurt too.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Remember back in the day, Dwayne, when it was you 70 with a shot? Yeah. For the high flyers. >> Oh, was squad. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was a good load
to have if you were in a tight spot. >> Didn't have to aim very good. >> Nasty moment. I know. That was a favorite piece of my dad. Anytime there was a, you know, something a or something in town
or, you know, or somebody's running away from them and then they shoot the front tires up underneath the car, things like that. Are there any more questions for women? >> I guess no. I was happy. Sounds like conversation is going to be real.
>> I just want to thank him and sheriff's office for coming this morning and just good to have the discussion questions. We have a little time. I'll get the direct down the packet so we could >> Yeah, that's going to be I think that's going to be more informative than me. I
definitely not an expert in this new legislation. I'm just telling you what I've heard, what that packet is that lays everything out or email, whatever it is. I don't know. >> I'll I'll I'll keep on fire at the office down there to get another one
sent out. >> One more thing that that I'd like to bring up is what it probably would do is these guys, especially with these scopes that you can shoot at night, things like that, they're probably going to be some more poaching going on. And what they'll do is they'll, you know, it's way the
heck out there and they'll take a crack at it, but they kill it. Then they'll come back at two o'clock in the morning and get it. And you guys have already been on some of that already. I want to just point that direction. I know all about what went on out there. You know, it might well might be more of that just
because you can reach out and touch them with a rifle. >> I can see it. Yeah. >> I don't think it matters. >> Not Oh, no. So, if I'm going to go and poach a deer, but I can only use a shotgun. >> No, >> I think if you've crossed the line into
poaching deer, it doesn't really matter what zone you're in. >> It happens. >> It It's going to happen. And they've got a number, Billy. I don't care. >> They got a number. >> And especially if it's a big box, you know, and again, they're pretty bold in the middle of the night. So is everybody else.
>> A lot of what's going on out there. >> All right. Are there any other regarding the legislation. >> Let them know who the day is. >> Otherwise, we we have five minutes before the start of the next meeting. So, it' be a great time to use the restroom.
>> I want to use the word they instead of we >> must spend the night. >> At some point, you got to know when the hole is getting a little deep. You maybe want to stop. >> I'm a good pocket for So, thank thank
>> Ryan. Thanks for helping us up and after. >> Yeah. One one thing where you got to do is if you see something like that, you got to say something. >> Yeah. We're all supposed to be sportsmen out there right now. You got to teach your kids that. >> I'll have my business card.
>> Oh, I'll take you seen any migration going on. This has been a >> I don't know what's I was up in Manitoba last week there >> and we were struggling. >> Thank you.
>> There wasn't a lot of >> Oh, it's been a really bad year for the migration. >> Yeah. I have a manufact [Music] I can't remember what day it was but I saw a pretty good number and then it fell off again. >> Now I have everybody complaining where
are they? Where are they? in Canada. >> I don't have I don't have a BPS of where they are, >> right? They need we need snow up north in Canada and and Dakota and then we get then it shifts this direction. >> Yeah, >> big time. >> Yeah. >> So, how much pressure is on the the
north out of them? Have you been out there seeing what was going on? >> Yeah, I drive around there. Um it's I generally don't see much activity in generally or around deer hunting is when I'm starting to see people starting to show up around there, right? There's a lot of private land people that sit
around but as ter >> I mean yeah that's always a safe haven form generally in the middle down a couple of those roads in there just to see the numbers to see if there's any activity in there I have a couple people that just like go around those little
gates so I'll sit in there so say just wait for somebody to do that >> I might be one of them guys because I sit on that that committee. >> Okay. So, I'm kind of a but I don't I ain't going to sh anything out of there. Let them rest. That's a kind that's
where let them rest. They get they go out a half a mile and they get shot at all the way around or thing. >> Yeah. >> And what I think what they've done is move water off onto the farm form of the land that's in there. So, it's real shallow. So, production.
>> Yeah. There's invertebrates and all kind of stuff. We sit on I don't know there's no cast first name but we have two DNR sitting on that committee. >> Okay. >> So and they we're trying to do
conservation efforts and you know make sure wild rice and whatever and retain >> you know because that's a hot spot in the spring of the year for for any kind of migration of anything any bird. I mean, we get, you know, the
>> National Great Geographics out there and we get a National People coming out of the cities >> that come with their cameras and their lenses and all that stuff. We spent days out there >> and I think it's a great >> as a question you guys
clear obligated to >> see you objective performance then say oh thank you We're ready. that cold right >> try it. >> You get people sitting
>> versus driving, you know, the second thing. Start the meeting. You come in. It's 9:00 and call the meeting to order. Stand for the pledge. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The the agenda, we're going to add a cold
session, a little cold session thing during the PDA discussion. >> That's for negotiations. Um, anybody have anything else to add to the agenda? >> Motion to approve, Mr. Chair.
>> Was that addition? >> Yeah. >> Second. >> Motion second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Carried. Meeting minutes were sent out.
We're in the minutes, Mr. Chair. >> We're in the minutes. >> Yep. >> So, I got a question. Maybe it's a point of clarification under the fair board where it says that approve the funding for the Grant County Fair Board. So are they then the owner of record of this
building or is that to be determined? I would say as of now they would I think if you want to make it so that the county is I think you've changed a whole lot of the scope because now the county has to go out and do bids.
They have I mean first of all did we have an architect draw out then the county has to get you added 18 months to the timeline and probably another million dollars. No. And and I didn't ask the question with necessarily that in mind. I just and I don't know the
structure of the fair board if that's a official. I'm not saying I think the county should. I agree with that. But I also know that the reference is a fair board and I guess
the chair. Yeah. So that >> anybody got anything else on the minutes? >> Motion to approve it. >> Motion a second. Second. >> All in favor say I.
>> I hear boards. motion. We pay the warrants. Second motion second. Any discussion on not all in favor signify by saying >> I post
carries. >> Okay. PFM Financial Board the Sue Watershed. >> Yeah, good morning brother. >> Great. Good morning. Uh thank you for for having me at your meeting this morning. This is uh the third or fourth time I think we have brought this topic
to the board. So I appreciate um your diligence in this matter. The U Boyce to Sue Watershed District is financing uh county ditch number three and number 21. And there have been a series of actions by the board that have occurred this
year to set that up for financing. The most recent was on August 5th, the board approved a resolution which authorized the um authorized us to solicit bids and then we had certain parameters listed in that resolution and
subject to financing meeting those parameters. The board chair and county coordinator were then authorized to accept a bid on the county's behalf. So what we are doing this morning is now we have um done the bid process um board
chair Doyle and um Tina the county coordinator were part of a conversation with uh Chad your county auditor with Jamie from the boys watershed district and we selected a proposal that will have the term financing terms for this
drainage bond that will u be the lowest cost of financing available and have the flexible financing terms which were going to be useful if the special assessments were to be prepaid early. It would have the flexibility then to prepay down the bond. So what's on the
agenda for this morning is for the board to pass actually the resolution. So the resolution contains all of the details about the financing, the dollar amount, which is 4,332,000. the the term it is a 15-year term, but
there are two separate special assessment payments that are 10 years for the ditch three and then the 15 years for the ditch 21. So, what we ask for the board this
morning is that you uh have a wow the the word all of a sudden escaped my mind. Somebody makes a motion. Thank you. And uh and then a second and it will be a roll call vote. And what it is is just to have the final piece of approving this resolution. And then on
Thursday this week on October 23rd, that would be the closing date where the county would receive the funds and then the boys to sue watershed district could present their invoices um for reimbursement. A reimbursement resolution was done by the board uh last August. That is a lot of information.
happy to answer any questions. Uh >> well, I got a statement that I like to make. It's nice to see that there's latitude between the two ditches because one ditch three was a repair and ditch 21 is an improvement. So, there was there's quite a bit of different numbers
between the two. I mean, there were, you know, big numbers there. So, it's nice to know that if they want to pay ahead, you know, on on those payments, you know what I mean, and kind of accelerate them a little bit and clean them up, that's a great thing. So, it's got latitude in
the the financing, which is a great thing. So, thank you for that. >> You're welcome. That was one of our goals to accomplish. >> Anybody else have any questions? Could we get a motion to approve this? >> Well, I will make that motion, Mr. Chair
for the resolution. I'll second it. >> Motion in a second. We'll do a roll call vote. Ken, >> yes. >> Croy, >> yes. Bill, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Doyle, yes.
>> Great. Well, well, thank you for that. Um, Chair Doyle, there will be some closing documents for you to sign today. I think Tina has those prepared for you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Great. Well, thanks everybody. Appreciate your time. >> Thank you. Thank you.
This is Chad. Can I interrupt for one second? >> Yep. So, as um uh I'm I'll be meeting or calling Jamie over at Boise Sue to talk about we've kind of got some sort of a
plan on reimbursement for their uh bills they've paid and and the bills that will be coming in on these two ditches. as those requests for reimbursement or requests for payment come in, are those things that you would like to see go through the uh commissioner bills that
you meet um at your meetings or um should we go ahead and pay them uh with an auditor warrant or on their own or do you want those presented to you? >> I don't So I guess payments's been approved. So if you got if anybody want
to see them or bill or >> just for transparency purposes, I think it would be nice to see them you know in some type of a you know commissioner's warrant or an audit warrant or something like that that you know that numbers and those dollars pass through county and
pass through our eyes as well. >> Well, you get copies of everything. I just want to know if I can go ahead and and pay them without your approval first or if um you know like your commissioner warrants you approve all those bills today. None
of those have been released before your approval. Others go out and you you see them after the fact. That's that's my question. We're talking about some pretty big sums of money I think that Boise Sue has already dished out here. So I I >> we're not involved in the construction
and we didn't approve bids and I mean my opinion is pay them and just >> we'll see what it is. >> Okay. I I just wanted to I wanted to make sure I mean we would we would probably already now at the end of this month you know send boy d sue some some
of those funds that they've expended and I didn't know if you know waiting for another couple two three weeks it might before your approval that's that's all I was asking >> in my opinion is is pay them I mean yeah we don't want to hold up three weeks at
that potentially they got large expenses already expanded. Yeah. >> Yeah, they do. >> Okay, that's that that was my question. >> Thanks. >> Okay, Ashley. >> All right. I am just here from the table
discussion from last board meeting of how the board would like to proceed with the DDA job descriptions. Well, we were going to wait and see what negotiations had and we brought it up to them and we never >> So, yeah, either take the recommendation
um from the consultant um I guess unless the board has another a different plan. Well, I mean, we so we brought it up to them and it's not unusual in negotiation to bring something up and not really get a response until the next time you meet.
So, there may still be more information from them coming back. Anybody got anything else on that? >> I would make a motion to close for negotiation. Close the meeting for negotiations. >> Second.
Second. All in favor? I opposed. Carried. I'll make a motion to open the meeting back up. >> Second motion for a second. Open the meeting. All in favor?
Carried. I'm pretty wet. Make my 10:00 Are we waiting for milk? >> I don't know what we're >> We could just go again. >> Oh, just tease it here. Okay, Bill's here though. I guess just if there was a decision on
the table discussion. >> Did you open the immediate? Okay. >> Yeah. You got anything about that or >> Oh, excuse me. What was the question? If there's any decisions on the table >> here
motion to approve to move forward with EDA's recommendation of job description award's recommendation of job description development Okay, we got a motion to be a second. >> Second. >> Any orders discussion?
All bear the motion signify by saying I >> opposed with the BWC policy and public comment. That's >> you know how long I had to look before I realized what that because I skipped over the first part where it said what that BWC meant.
>> You like you felt like boundary waters canoe area. >> You forgot the a >> I was wondering why we were getting it stop raining. Should we move forward or are we good here? >> It's up to you. Um,
>> is there anybody? >> Oh my god. >> Not sure. Have you guys all seen the the letter and the policy >> policy regarding >> the survey taking the survey? >> I did mine. I didn't do I need to do that.
>> No, I didn't do it. It's just for public com regardless of where you fill out the survey or >> Yeah. Um so we've had 93 responses of the survey the digit that they did it digitally. Um
>> we didn't receive anything by paper submitted back to our office. But I think we'll keep it open for >> longer. Um, so the first question is, do you feel that the Grand County Sheriff's Office use body warn cameras in our
community? 84% thought that we already had them. Do you feel that the bodywn cameras would help increase community trust in law enforcement? 77.4% said yes. Um, do you believe that the behavior of the
public prove with a deputy wearing a body warn camera and that was about 50% said yes, 22 said no, and 28 were unsure. Do you believe the behavior of the deputy would improve that the deputy is
wearing the body warn cameras? 63% said yes, 15% said no, 21.7% were unsure. In your opinion, do you believe the citizens of Grant County are in favor of deputies using body warn cameras? 49.5%
said yes, 14 said no, 14%, and 36.6 were unsure. The next question is, when do you feel a deputy should activate a body camera? 69.9% said during all contacts.
23.7% the decision to activate a body war came should be left up to the deputy and then there's just a small portion that said only when a person had given permission to use them. Do you feel that most law enforcement agencies will be using body wararm
cameras in the next 5 years and 87.1% said yes 8.6% said no or unsure. Small portion said no. Um, if you have contact with the Grant County deputy who is using the body warn
camera, would you feel comfortable having the contact documented on video? And 82.8% said yes. 97 9.7% said no and 7.5% said I was
unsure. >> And then we asked not to comment. So, one of the things uh as far as the recording of individuals, um if you looked at our policy that we have, there's the activation of a body warn camera. And in the policy, it
states that members should activate their BWC DWC during all calls for service and the performance of law enforcement related functions. Members are not required to activate their camera during casual or informal contacts with members of public that are
not not part of a related of or related to law enforcement functions. However, members should activate their cameras anytime a contact with an individual becomes hostile or advers adversarial. So I know that was one of the questions
uh during the survey is should it be on all the time and no it will not be on all the time. If I you know you have a conversation with one of you on the public you know non law enforcement
related there's no need to record that conversation. Um the policy is very specific as you know it's it's through Lexipole um adopted by the Minnesota Sheriff's
Association policy that we've had for ever I can't remember the date anymore but it's just it's a a policy that's not been in our manual. you just have to go back and retrieve it, change it to what
I'll bring out we wanted to read in a sense and then apply it, distribute it uh to our our group. >> We've also posted this information on our website. So Ashley got that going
and facts bunch of questions you have especially when it comes to dad and you know can I get a copy of that camera you know footage or whatever. So
our website has a lot of information on it. >> I got a question. >> Yeah. So when your investigators are sitting down taking a statement or interview from a suspect or victims
when they're in your office there that camera work in there is sufficient and this one doesn't have to be on >> No, we would run both. >> You run both? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yep. And our two interview rooms and soft interview room upstairs and hard interview downstairs along with our
booking processing area. um those cameras, the bodyboard cameras would be on if you're dealing with somebody, even though we have the other systems. >> That makes sense when you're walking around if they're jabbering
>> and you never know. It's technology. >> Yeah, >> it's lovely when it works. >> And and we we operate in a kind of the same sense right now. Um if you're um even though we have the recording system for the interview rooms and stuff like that, the deputies are still
running either their um cell phones with the program or still I don't know if anybody's still using their little recorders that we have as a backup. They just a redundancy I guess you' say. >> What's the battery life on the cameras?
I mean is that some like 10 hours 12 hours per day kind of a thing? Well, we hope it's more than 12 because more than it's more than 12. Yeah. So, >> okay. I mean, I just call for the question. So, when they they you dock them, how do you charge them and
maintain them? Can you >> So, like when you're in your car, um you know, it's always on it's already on our body, >> right? Um, there's a cord that you can like if you got an hour left of your shift and it's been busy, you know, you're probably going to have to maybe
plug it in, you know, just just in case, but you can just leave it right here plugged in. >> And then back to the office, there's a there's docking stations, >> eight bank docking stations that will have the extra batteries because each
each uh each one comes with an extra battery. So there's the banks at the office where you can switch out >> and I believe it's just the universal C charging corral. So you could charge it after
>> told I got a question under 428.7 under denials redactions and notices it references the sheriff should work with the custodian of records. It's the only place where I see custodian of record records is that outside or that an
appointed position or a designated position or what is the custodian of the record when these videos are downloaded from your system. Does that have to be done in the office? It's all cloud based. >> So when they're done with their shift,
they can 10 minutes before their shift's over, they can download it. >> Automatic. >> It's automatic. >> It's putting it in there all the time. >> Yes. Yes. You don't have to, you know, return to the office to do a download to connect to our micro tick antenna like you do now with the squat cars or the
watch car system. It's cloud-based as automatic constant download. So they don't have to worry about that. Correct. It don't compile it. it does it automatically. >> That's pretty good. >> And then so once your information's into your bay
database there, uh there's there's some people that are going to need access to that, right? Like the county attorneys and for discovery purposes and stuff. >> Well, so the county attorney would make a request to you or to then that
information would be given to him. Um, so I believe right the request comes and then we can send it >> a link. >> Yeah. >> A link, right, for them to log in to Yeah. to grab that data. And I I as I understand that there's other
surrounding counties that use it. It should be really simple for just get all this information like state patrol DNR BCA they have already been evidence.com. >> So then some of this information
eventually is public record data right? depend on what it is. Y >> yeah. So the report that the deputy puts in, you know, to the county attorney or goes through your staff or however that works, you know, you know, you refer to the camera at such and such a day, such and such a time and everything like that
for any of the investigation stuff that's in that report, right? So they kind of >> you marry the two together between the camera and the report and then refer to this and right >> date, time, the whole nine yards in. So it organizes it because everything has a
case case number. >> Okay. >> Um and so every any evidence coming in into evidence.com has to have a case number. And so if it has the same case number, it's all going to be linked report. >> Right. >> So you got to look through a whole bunch of footage just to get one thing.
>> It's streamlined. Yeah. And then also um like for what's that called like chain of custody it's logging all the chain in custody if you log in to overlook it you know to watch the video or whatever it's all
being logged. Oh, that's great because chain of custody is >> huge, >> very important. Yeah. So, I got a question under 428.7 >> 70% >> where it says the media is the sole property of Grand County Sheriff's
Office. And then on the bottom farther down it says that the AWC media remains the property of the sheriff's office and shall not be used by a vendor for any purpose without the explicit approval of the sheriff or authorized design.
So the question I have is uh if it's the sole property of the sheriff's office, where does that put Grant County, our board and county attorney or designate in this
because we've kind of been down this road. Well, I I think what they're referencing here, the vendor actually being uh acts on Okay. So, what what this is stating is
that Axon has no right just to grab uh let's say if we have a high-speed chase, Axon doesn't have a right to go take that video and start sharing it for training purposes or anything like that.
that has to fall under the approval of Grant County. But it doesn't county Grand County Sheriff's Office and then the designate. So the county decided
that the media should be available to let's say in this case Justin, it doesn't say that. >> Well, it says it's only the office, >> right? Just like any other information that we store, you know, it's not public unless >> unless under this data practice system.
>> Yeah. Unless it falls under, you know, um uh unless it falls under, you know, the data practices and the proper requests for the data, um I I don't think that it it really means anything other. Help me
out when you say unless. What are you getting at there? >> Under state statute, there's data practices rules and so if you don't fall underneath that, nobody gets that information. >> No, no, I understand that. But how about other than that?
>> What do you mean? >> Okay. Um so with this information that we were we are still the holders of that data and
if you make a request under Minnesota state statute for the data uh release of of data, there's specific points within that statute to say this is what you're entitled deal with it and these are the
reasons why you're entitled to it under statute. If you don't fall within those reasons or under the statute and everything, then you are not privy to that information right now. >> All the regulations I'm saying this says
it's the sole property of the sheriff's office. I'm saying it should be the sole property of Grant County slash the sheriff's office. So, it's a property of both. >> So, we don't go and walk in. I can't just go walk into the evidence room. No.
>> Yeah. >> We we would fall under the same guidelines if we wanted to see that video. We'd have to make that request. >> Right. >> Is that what the custodian is? >> Well, it's a little bit >> is it kind of like the the death
>> I wouldn't even go there. >> It's under the care and the custody of Grand County Sheriff's Office. you would be the person to release it if it fits the criteria. Correct. So, it's under your care and custody and then it's county data. It's county data, but it's
under your care custody. I I wouldn't I don't know that I' I'd consider counting data because >> criminal investigations are >> we've never you know anything that anything that we currently hold as far
as audio video recordings physical evidence uh paper evidence reports electronically or paper versions are not subject to release unless that request
comes directly to our office and then in speaking with the county attorney um to make the determination if that can be released or not. Um never has it been I guess Grant County as if you want to put it that way their decision
as a whole to release that information or giving Grant County as as the keeper of that information because Grant County Tetrically doesn't hold it. The sheriff's office holds it. >> Well, it it's not so long though that we
had we couldn't even write a check in this county and pay a bill because elected official. >> Okay. I just wanted to say with these policies, these policies are written by multiple attorneys >> where
>> statewide. And so if they felt that that the county needed to be in there, they would have put it in there. >> And we can certainly have that conversation with Justin. You know, >> that's what I was going to recommend is is like I say,
we have a little bit of a track record and to have that as the sole own property of. So let's say that it did that the policy did say that it was a sole property of grand company.
What does that actually change? It's the individual in that position. >> It is not because a policy says you can't policy the results you're looking for. You either have the right person or you don't. That that's >> there's no way I want Grant County as in
this board to say, "Yeah, that's our information. Release it." That's not this board's role. The ownership of that is implied in Grant County Sheriff's Office. >> I to just say it's Grant County's
information without the sheriff's office in there would be like saying yes, the evidence in the evidence storage is Grant County. I can go in there anytime I want because I mean my card doesn't give me access there for a very good
reason. And that that was going to be my question then was are you um with questioning whether say Grant County or Grant County Sheriff's Office slash do you believe that if it says Grant County does that then give the
representatives of Grant County but say the board the right to access that information? No, I'm not. I'm not. What I read in I and I don't know the specifics, but it's been explained to us that the the the powers of a sheriff in
the state of Minnesota are very high. Now, what we're saying is we've are giving the power of your position in this policy to be the sole owner, >> right? And I would protect that
information um to great length, right? Let me explain. Yes, >> I protect that information to great length if it's not to be released to anybody without uh
cause or right to do so. That's that's what I'm getting at. Now, like I said earlier, you come to me with the proper paperwork, the statutes, uh, stating as to why I need to release this information to you personally. Um, I
have to follow that statute. And if it's all within the legal rights of the law, then it's like, okay, uh, Mr. Johnson, here's the information you requested. If it's not within the law, you're not entitled to it and then we can fight about it.
>> Yeah. And no, I mean that is that is part of excuse me. I mean that is part of the the the sheriff role is also protecting private debt and and yeah I will I will protect that
data to great lengths because ultimately it comes down on on the sheriff. It does um on who's releasing that information. If I if I unlawfully release information to somebody that they're not privy to, no lawsuit.
So, hey, I mean, not you know, >> and to be able to have this information, you have to have a CGS I, you know, clearance. I mean, it's >> But we'll we'll we can ask. >> Yeah. No, we'll certainly certainly, you
know, um because we do have the abilities within Lexiple to um write policies as as we see fit and within the law and make adjustments that would could benefit us. So would we we have
that option? And my point was if if Justin as our designate made a request because of the situation and it permits you to deny it based on the sole of property of
>> I I can't I can't deny it because I claim it to be my property. >> Well, it says that though. >> Well, >> it says it's the sole property of the >> talking about between Axon and the sheriff's office. I have a feeling there would be ramifications if Justin came out and said, "I can't prosecute this
case because I can't get the information." I I'm not terribly worried about what this policy says. >> Okay. >> I have a feeling that at that point there would be ramifications that this board would not need to get involved. So, we're okay with it then.
>> I Yeah, I mean it otherwise we had to go back and look at all of our policies about how we store evidence and how we have squad camera. I mean, this is body war cameras. We have squad cam. All of this is going to reference. >> Okay, I'm fine.
>> Well, we'll stall the conversation with you just for clarification. But yeah, it's it like I said, I will go to great less and protect information. >> Yeah, I have no question about that. So, we'll do that. >> Okay.
Do you want us to adopt this policy or what do you want? >> Yeah, this is just theformational public if there were any questions. >> Well, when are the cameras? >> So, we should probably have it adopted before we start using them, right?
>> Well, I don't you don't have to adopt this. >> No. Yeah, we're that's we're saying here's our policy. Okay. Um >> this is what the politician what we're doing. >> Yeah. Um so we we do have a schedule uh
set up uh we already start here coming. We have two this afternoon. Um we have a number of meetings that come up with acts on um we do have in person training starting with our uh phaser uh on December 4th.
Um >> you're looking for a victim. >> And then we I want to call them on that. >> Here we go. Um, and then we did have a uh we did have our next training uh having to come up on December 9th. Uh, but that falls
right in the middle of our sheriff's and chief deputy conference. So, we pushed that that back until January. Um, but as we said, right now it's >> it's having meetings and starting trainings
uh equipment uh going out uh for the fleet side of it. Um, started talking January now for getting all the new cameras installed in the squad still come here on site to do that. So yeah, it's happening. >> So is there once you guys get down into
this thing and and get she got some footage, could you just bring a little bit of that footage back to us? >> Yeah. >> See the clarity, see where it's at and somebody ask probably we probably do a scenario uh based on something. I don't
know. Can you bring me the video footage of paving Bill? >> You know, we still have the still have the CD of lighting taste. I have that. >> Well, let's compare. >> Keep this up. Put a dunk tank. >> One video to the next. Let's see how
technology >> on me. But it was November 23rd, 20. There a little PTSD involved in that? >> They ain't doing that again. >> No. >> How do you do though? >> Yes, we do. >> Yeah, we will we will certainly correct. >> So, you know what I mean? Just as a
reference. So, then we can kind of get an idea just how how clear it is and how you know what I mean, whether you're moving around or just what you're doing with it. That'd be nice. >> Well, here here's another thing. You know, if if you wanted to look at some of the stuff yourself online, you know, you could YouTube almost anything having
to do with ax axon body warn cameras and look at hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, probably thousands of videos of uh interaction with law enforcement, general public, good, bad, or otherwise. And it be very clear on what that
technology is about. Well, like I mean I've seen it on my own already, but still no you know what I mean. just so somebody that doesn't isn't privy to any of that or you're you know source a smartphone they're not looking into that little bit at least if they call for the
question on things at least you got something to talk about right >> yeah there'll be some good things that are public record that recorded >> some good >> and you know we're also planning to use these as training
>> as well and then we have to do audits >> I had a discussion with Matt the Zel, >> he lives in town here, you know, and he goes, "Best thing we did because what it does is the county attorney, you know, has the discretion
and what it does is it just speeds cases up for those days and there ain't no the technicalities are pretty much covered." So he goes, "It's best thing we ever did." >> Plus, it protects us too. >> It takes a what did you see arguments. Well, there's a lot of other and even,
you know, even with our current technology with with our in squad cameras, you know, it's I wouldn't say a regular basis, but you know, occasionally we'll get a call from somebody saying that, you know, your deputy or grew um or your deputy use follow language uh during the traffic
stop and I want to file a complaint against he or she, whatever it may be. Like, okay, well, I understand. Um, what was, you know, I'll ask the questions over the case. When was when was this yada yada yada? Did you get a ticket? Did you not? That's all documented on our end on our record commanders side
and cab side. And nine times out of 10 when I said, "Okay, well uh I will pull the squad video and take a look at that." The followup question by the person calling says, "Do you have video?" Oh, yes, we do.
I'm good. Yeah. >> I mean, it it it does happen that fast. >> It happens more than you think, too. >> Yeah. >> Or you say, "Okay, I'll look at the video and I'll get back to you." And then you review the video and you see
that the deputy was very professional in the stop. There wasn't any raising of voice, all the language, folder language, uh, anything like that. And then you call the person back and say, "Well, I clearly view the video and this is what I see." and they're like, "Yeah,
okay. Thanks for your time." I think it's an exciting program. I It's going to be helpful. >> Thank you. >> Any any more questions? >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay.
Enjoy your stop up after. Okay. You got anything else? >> Um, one thing that I was going to mention shadowing. There's some of our high schools offer classes that ask, you
know, part of the the class is job shadowing. And when we, you know, if there's interest in a student coming to Grant County office to do some job shadowing, um, in the past, we've done that and we have the students sign a confidentiality uh, statement and then
they spend the afternoon or the morning or the day, whatever it works out to be. Um, and it's been um, a really positive experience. And we've had some requests um, for some job shadowing again. And there is someone that wants to come and job shadow at the auditor's office. So, I was just going to let you guys know
that. And I think it's just again a positive thing to make sure that you're that you're aware of and exciting that there's young people that are interested to see how county government works. >> Were they planning on coming to the meetings here, too? >> Um, it's just for a day. It's not a period of time.
>> Okay. >> So, dozen of them? >> No, there's one right now, but there's been been some in the past, too. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we've had kids here that before. So, >> good. Sounds like that's a department head disease.
>> Yep. >> Anything else to >> No, just committee on the agenda. >> Okay. Board committee updates. Budget and finance. Troy and Bill >> meeting Friday. Yeah.
building committee. >> Remember the last time we met? It was a couple weeks ago. We may was here and we talked We haven't talked met since then. >> There was a I think the question about the recycling containers. >> Yeah. He sent it out email.
>> Yeah. >> At the courthouse. Um >> let's get a meeting to talk about that. Kind of expensive, isn't it? I can't remember the details, but that that is something that um a pilot project of you, you know, getting those recycling
things to see if they're used um at the courthouse. So, that would be coming in the future. >> Slim gym containers. >> Okay. Personnel committee, we get some kind of went over that today. What's been going on so late?
Highway Committee. >> We're going to meet at 2:00 today. >> Y public safety. We're going to talk about um sheriff's contracts, dollar waste. meeting we meet next week
as well as strategic planning. So, but I don't know that I have anything to add to it until then. What's what's going on >> horizon? >> I wasn't there. I was in Canada. >> I wasn't there. I was
>> I think they're still there though. >> Yeah. I I let know I wasn't there. Western Prairie just moving along. They should have been Travis County was supposed to get you MOA to
approve today. We did talk about last time, right, that we were going to be sending Grant County a bill for the longevity because we'd all agree each county had agreed. It's not I'd have I'm updating
my computer otherwise I could look. It's not a a huge dollar figure but each county had agreed to pay that longevity and then it got dropped. So >> they were doing it right and Perry was >> Well, no. We said we were going to but
then we never did. >> Oh. So we're going because now with another county coming in, we're gonna start. So I believe what we're going to do is we will bill for a year at a time. So it's just like January 2nd, there'll
be a bill sent that former Grand County employee employees were paid this much. I think it's like $10,000. >> Yeah. >> So the bill you're on the
MS committee I was reading I can't remember exactly there's lake region there's there's some changes on that hospital clinic system >> yeah with a strategic or uh yeah they they got to label the difference
>> they're combining d have an effect on what happening with the ambulance and how it relates to that that we need to be researching or talking I don't think there's >> it's not in our discretion. You know, I
usving for an ambulance, you know what I mean? I don't think has anything to do with and being that revenue whether you know what I mean. It moves to Hoffman and the ambulance gets earmarked and we head that direction or however this works, you know, I I don't think it has
any bearing on what's happening there. >> But the elderly it may right there. or not. Well, what I what I was reading was uh it had to do with uh how insurance Medicare was build now and
stuff because they got they labeled it a step higher hospital >> critical access >> critical access hospital that's what you're talking right >> well they're putting region there's some changes I read the article map
which would include the elite >> y >> there is the EMS committee meeting coming up. >> Yeah. >> The end of this month. So hopefully we'll get some updates >> feedback on that. >> Yeah. >> But on on that note, uh you know, uh
often they've been asking a little bit about, you know, because they want to order that ambulance and we haven't given them the go-ahad yet. But I suppose we got to wait until the final budget is >> well done, you know.
next and then we'll move forward from there. >> So with with back to western prairies, I the press release that that Stacy sent out. >> Mhm. >> I sent it to backer and Raserson and um
did some discussions. They sent it to the land of the dancing sky agency and aging board and they get an email that they got come back here that said they appreciated what went on and they're going to pass it on to people that matter and I had a West Central
Initiative, you know, uh, Zoom event that I jumped on. And so that press release actually went to West Central Initiative through Stacy and and she's working with a gal in there looking into that as well and
possibly some funding for food chips. >> Not so much on the dancing sky, but maybe my central initiative. >> Who are the people that matter? >> What? >> You said it was being sent on to the people that matter. >> Well, that people matter.
>> It's okay. that who will actually carry the ball. Okay, I'll I'll return that. Okay, the people that will carry the ball there. >> Now I'm really interested. Who's carrying the ball? >> So Tina, this thing from Sher County.
Uh >> you said you showed this to Justin or >> No, I had a conversation with Justin. So, I received in the mail um a resolution from Sherburn County that they've sent out to other counties um in regards to what is it Doyle? Is it
nuclear waste? >> Yeah. Yeah. Nuclear energy alliance. >> Yeah. So, um they sent it out to all the counties and it's a resolution showing support um for the efforts that some counties
are are doing. They talked about it at AMC using those um the nuclear plants waste as a new source of some sort of energy. >> Um and I I'm not very um researched in
how that all works, but there's counties that are interested in this, but they're trying to get legislation to support it. So I think the resolution has been sent out to all the counties asking other counties that maybe don't have that opportunity in our area but looking for
support. So um I've never received a resolution in the mail like that. So I did ask Justin I said you know what do I do with this and he said to give it to the board chair and then if it's something that the board would like to see or discuss at a board meeting then um we put it on
the agenda and do that. So I gave it to Doyle and said, you know, let me know what you guys would like to do with this. >> And that's that letter. >> Well, we're really going to do a little
research with AMC because I mean from a overall 87 county concept, they wouldn't be able to weigh in on it. >> I don't think we want to do anything about it at this point. I think it's early in its stages.
>> Can you send me what they sent you or is it just this? It's just that >> you can have that. Okay. Where the >> Grand counties bill looks like for 25 get early in 26 will be $7,182.
And that'll go on Troy until uh >> till every employee that has longevity is because no one knew gets it. >> Right. So that was my question though. I thought Stacy said like we have had Grant County employees retire out of Western Prairie. I thought she said they covered that.
>> Well, it's a Grant County recover. So what you had for vacation sick time if you retire and let's say that's 75% of what they retired with for vacation sick time. Grant County pays that they send a
bill because rather than rather than when we merged one of the the other that was one option. The other one was we would just send that money to Western Prairie. Well no because we wanted to hold on to it. So that's
so but as those individuals retire that becomes comes off of our the county's liability. So yeah, we've been paying that. We were just supposed to be doing this and we hadn't been. Anybody got anything else? We're journ at 10:36.
>> No.