I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay, we'll uh approve the agenda. And Tina, you said
you had something to put on there. >> Yep. Um, under the Grant County ordinance, we'll also need to add the Grant County cannabis fees. That was my mistake mistake. I forgot to add that. >> With that addition, Mr. Chair, I'll make
that motion approve the agenda. >> Second mot or we have a motion, a second. Any more discussion? All in favor? Motion signify by saying I. >> I. >> Post. Carried.
>> The board meeting minutes for Shen out. I will make a motion to approve the minutes. >> I'll second it, Mr. Chair. >> Motion and the second on the minutes. Any discussion? All in favor of the motion signify by saying I
posted carried. The warrants were also sent out. had a question. What precise MRM LLC is? 13 $23 transactions.
Seen that vendor before. We know what it is. It's for GPS trucks. Y the GPS on the P trucks. Oh, okay. It's been there probably every month for us. Thank you. It's an app fee, is it? Isn't that what
it is? An app subscription tracking. You can see where the they are Other question maybe it back to you or Aaron would know $5449 for autotail for pole relocation that
part of a bigger project part of the 55 project we were relocating the portion of the process. Thank you. Make a motion we approve the warrants. >> Second.
Motion in a second to approve the warrants. Any discussion on a not all in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppos. Okay. Grant County opioid grants. >> Morning. >> Good morning.
And I am here today um on behalf of public health who has been just helping um allocate these dollars that Grant County has received through the opioid settlement. And so how that process has worked is we have a task force where we had some appointed
agencies too and we have the um application the funding application closed on June 15th and then we have met this summer to recommend um seven projects to you for funding. Um and so I
do have a summary if you have any questions. I don't want to waste too much time. Um, if there's any specific questions, if you want me to go through them, and I guess we're bringing them here as a lump, but um,
>> we do have a narrative in front of us for >> Okay, we have a summary. >> Perfect. >> Yeah. So I mean the the task force would recommend um the funding for these seven projects. Um the funding would start
upon um the approval of these grants and they have various end dates. So um we work with um the county or the county would establish contracts with these with their various end dates. Yeah. If there's any questions you can let myself
and Tina >> So I have a couple questions. Yeah. >> One being makes reference to a >> coordinator wellness coordinator. is in in your application is that referencing that there would be specific
duties that would be applied to its own current job that would be coordinating this use of >> well you know first I'm just sort of carrying these through so we can open that one up specifically that was the one of the
sheriff's >> is that one of the sheriff's ones um just to clarify I you know I'm I won't be working in any of these specifically at all. Um, so yes, for the sheriff's one, they're proposing they had two
applications. Well, technically they had four applications that they had brought through. And so one of these was um, yeah, for a wellness a wellness grant. Um, not the physical fitness one. Is that the one you were Because they both were titled the same thing, but one had
much more of a physical component and one had a mental well-being component. Is that the one that you're referencing? >> Well, I'm actually representing or both in a sense because these very likely tie together. >> They do tie together. Um so actually
when though when the the more they're titled the same thing, but when the more physical fitness one went and forward, actually the task force ask um that the sheriff's office um bring that back and and review that a little bit. uh there was some questions as well
around the physical f fitness component to that and just really wanting to ensure that um that will be used. Um and so wanting some metrics to to put into place to ensure that if there's going to be some reimbursement for some of those that it's it's being used and how do we
ensure they are and if they aren't let's reook at that to make sure that that we don't have dollars out there that we're not allocating. Um, and so for the wellness for the wellness portion of that, um, uh, yeah, there would be I have the wrong one pulled up here, which is why I brought my computer up here
with me. >> So, let let me ask the >> Yeah, please. >> If I may. >> Yeah. Would you say, and you've worked with these with the other counties, would you say that the override grants
generally could be looked at where and I'll just use the reference to casting a wider net over a group of people or a situation to benefit or to for better outcomes
>> and you would do you agree with that? Well, here so in the MOA that came from the state, there's a 13-page document with all the allocated use of the funds. So, we have ensured that these dollars fit that allocated use of funds um
which can be used directly towards um community members and trying to reduce the opioid use specifically and then it can also be used for first responders, educators and the general community as large too that is working with that. So
yes. Um >> and so then my question would be looking at this two questions. One because I have had little experience for it back in my work life with trying to put together a wellness program. >> Mhm. >> Is it seems like as soon as you kind of
were like the rubber hit the runway, you end up with HIPPA >> Sure. >> regulations and you kind of come to screeching >> halts. It's none of my business what I weigh or someone else's business or or whatever or when someone stands outside
the building and smoke cigarettes. It's none of my business. And the point is is I just question if we're going to have a program and allocate almost $19,000 $18,000 to one department
because very likely we have other staff members that >> could have some of the same needs. And I know law enforcement's different than >> but social services we have >> right >> potentially stress in other areas. >> And the other thing is we do have a
wellness committee or I've had one in the past and my concern is if we're creating a wellness coordinator and it's going to end up adding to their job. From what I hearing, we're already this is a huge program
>> and it feels like to Ken it's kind of like a year and a half unfunded mandate >> town >> and so I don't know how the board feel about it. Um, the other problem I have is we just found out about this on
Friday >> and if we're asked to make a decision today, I think that and that's where I talk about casting this net wider. Uh, it's it's just like some of the other requests. Um,
I'm just not sure. >> Sure. So I don't know if you want to weigh in on it or if the committee members want to weigh in on it. >> Well, one of the things we talked about in these is measurable outcome and I don't know where that falls in with your hip. I didn't think
of that. But so like the the fitness program is more than just documenting that we have memberships purchased that it's being used. And I don't know how that falls in with the the HIPPA part, but if we're
not getting that proof that it's being used, that funding goes away. So, I mean, it's not So, that is the written down end date, but that does not I believe we did we say quarterly or >> we said um three months. In three months, we were going to be um asking
the sheriff's department to just provide some documentation. Are these dollars being used? you know, are these um officers, you know, utilizing this? And if not, have that conversation about Yeah, because the the
task force had the same questions that that you you have as well right now too about that. >> So, through public health or through other companies and I think we have some level of employee assistance programs, >> isn't there vendors out there that if I
have an extreme need Do we need to build for another program? Once again, in a year and a half, where are we going to be? >> You're kind of talking about like an EAP and the county has that. >> The county has >> that is not being utilized.
>> And you know, again, we had some of these that the the task force um had some of these similar conversations as well. So, um, yeah, it >> I am against
promoting a having a wellness coordinator within the department that's already busy from what I hear, almost at the overload level because wellness programs are a huge effort. Would you agree? >> They are a huge effort. And I mean and
maybe a conversation to have through these seven grants is and you know Cher I'll let you decide how you want to run through these is it this is the county's dollars. I mean the county these are the dollars that are sitting with the county. >> Dedicated dollars. >> Dedicated dollars. Yep. And so it's it's
really a conversation that you know our opioid task force meets and you know we we have these conversations but we bring these we don't make we don't make the decisions if we're going to fund these or not. So, we're trying to sort of cipher them down to you all to have these conversations. So, you could
approve these one at a time today. If you want to table them and, you know, bring these back for further discussion, that'd be another option as well, too. Um, there's definitely ways ways you can move through here. If you have some and we did the same thing as, you know, when
you were a part of these, we opened some of these up and we were like, ah, some of these weren't easy. Absolutely. wanted to ensure these happened and some required some further conversations. Um I can tell you this morning Pope County is doing this exact same thing with a tabled project that they had and Douglas County is running all theirs through
today. Um, so yeah, if you have some questions and concerns and you you aren't quite sure, you know, you could either strike it down or you can have this tabled and there can be another conversation as well if you want to see some of this. >> I think we should table I mean this is
the first time the other four I've seen it but the other four have seen this. So I I mean I think we should table them and then everybody can go through and >> because they they had they seen it on Friday and there really wasn't time to ask questions and right with yesterday being holiday. So
>> and you know unless there's any you you did see and wanted to move through with today too. There's >> just another thought because obviously in light of what's taking place in the last weekend in the Minneapolis that church, I was having the discussion with
someone who works in the school. And the comment was, it's not about gun safety, it's about school safety. That's where we can be impactful as a county commissioner. And I know when I saw this, I'm like, school safety, not wellness for 15,
>> but doesn't I'm not against wellness. >> Yeah. >> And the DARE program is great. And I think the community actions program, I think that's great. I sit on that board, >> but maybe there's a potential to be impactful in our county when it relates to school safety. And I think we should
at least, and I agree with the tableling, and but I think we should think about that and and maybe you charge our task force to look at it in a little different light. >> Well, and here here's here's how we did
this though too is we casted the net. It's really a grant program. So, we casted the net for applications to come in and then we you know the task force reviews them. The task force themselves aren't working on any of the projects and that wouldn't be how our task force
is even designed. Well, and and in that like when the sheriff's office puts a request in, they don't vote to move it forward. They're limited in the amount of discussion they're doing. >> And nobody here can tell you that we don't want to look at school safety, but how
do you tie that into opioids? You got to tie it into prevention, treatment, response. I mean, there's there's criteria you got to meet and just that's a I'm not saying it's not possible. That's
takes a different entity to look at it, fit it into that and then do it. >> Well, I I can it would be hard to agree with you to say we can't tie school safety into local aid when we can and nothing against Norcross, but that you
can retire the tennis court. >> I'm not saying we can. I'm saying you have to. >> Well, I'm just saying trying to build a narrative. There's a lot of difference. And I I don't disagree with you with any of those. Um we would just I mean we as
a community would need to then encourage or figure out what that be so then they could apply. You know consider that task force is just really a review of applications. We aren't working as you know uh we're not really we aren't
necessarily doing we meet quarterly to talk about what the needs are in the community and then really ensure that we're getting that out. So then when it's time to allocate these dollars, it's really up to the community to put or you know an agency to put together an
application to apply. Um so so yeah, >> Mr. Go ahead. >> Okay. So if if the sheriff's office is thinking about the DARE program, that's a good program. We had that when I was a
sheriff. It's not there anymore, but that's money well spent on educating kids on the use of, you know, alcohol and drug and uh so that that part I'm fully supportive of if they're going to do that. And then uh the medicine
dropbox, that's a great deal. Get that stuff into that dropbox. So, >> well, I will second that if those are both motions for both of those, Dwight. >> Yeah. Okay. Um, so I'll I can make that motion, but then what about the other?
>> Well, let's do those two and then roll them. >> Okay. Okay. I'll make a motion and that we uh that we go with this uh $11,915 for the Grand County DARE program and the $1,575
for the medicine dropbox. >> And I'll second those. Okay, we have a motion and a second for these two. Any more discussion on them? Not. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppos.
>> I would hope that when I did do a little bit of research with Missy, I do represent this board on the community actions board that the rental assistance and outreach program to Western community actions and she was extremely supportive of that. Uh, I know there's
quite a bit of money allocated in in some of the other counties, but they were larger counties. But that is the really this program and I make a motion that we approve that one to $35,000. >> I'll second that, Mr. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second for
the West Central Committee's actions. Any more discussion on that? Not all in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I opposed carried. >> I have a question, Mr. Chair, on the Herman Norcross uh community
improvement. Um it says end date 11:30 of 25. What does that means? >> Well, it um being that that they're looking at just doing this project, it's going to be sort of a oneandone. Um and so they wanted to they would be able to do that yet this fall. So then it's just it's sort of done. And and this has
really started back almost two years ago when we started engaging with the youth in the community and there's a question on the Minnesota student survey that asks them do you feel the community cares for you and um Grant County had some really low scores with that. So what we did is we went to those eighth graders and asked them more about that
and um the what had come back was there's just really nothing for us to do and we want to feel so we have taken um those students and th that data and that narrative to um some schoolboard meetings and to some city council meetings. Um I know Commissioner Johnson
was a part of those as well and this is what has come from that is is they just want more to do in the community and there is you know a lot of information and a lot of data that does talk about the more we can have engaged um youth engaged in the community we can sort of lower the risk um for using substances
and other risky behavior. So that's where this is this is about a two-year project and working directly with those youth has come from. So they um have been waiting for the opportunity to apply for these dollars to then you know have some things for um the youth to do
in the community and this is what they told us they wanted. This wasn't adults making this decision. >> So maybe I should know this. What is gag ball? >> Gaga ball. Um, I'm not going to do a very good job of of justifying it, but it's it's basically like, and if anybody
can help me here, but it's a circular um, my kids are um, have played it when they were at camp, too, but it's like a big circular ring and there's like a ball in there. And does anybody like this they find this for us? >> If you put in what is before anything,
Google will tell. Yeah, it's it's it's just a really fun game and there's like a ball in there and I think is is it a little bit of a kind of like a um what's that where you throw the ball at each other? Um that's uh >> dodgeball. >> Dodgeball. It's kind of like a dodgeball, but you're in this ring and
>> so it's not a typo. >> It's not a typo. It is called gaga ball. >> I don't know what it is either, but I >> It is. Yeah. >> How about a pickle ball court? Did they bring up that? >> They did not bring that up, but I would be Yeah. Um they they did not bring that up, but I mean if you're going to lay down some tennis record resurfacing, you
could obviously put some different types of lines in there, too. >> That 11,000 cover that whole cost >> that Yeah, they that's what they have come up with with that cost. So, >> I I'll make the motion that that we approve the Herman Norcross uh $11,000
request for community improvement. >> I'll second it, Mr. Chair. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any more discussion? >> All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I post carried.
Okay, Mr. Chair, on the other request by the chair then what are we going to do that or >> and the other one too is that Vivy if there's any conversation about the Vivy application >> and what is that? So Vivy well Vivy is the formal canoe the form you know it's Canoe Nelson they they renamed
themselves in Alexandria and um this is a a a project they put in that is multi-county and it is being funded by most of the counties wasn't by all five um it's a it and they want to do a pearls program which is working
with seniors 60 and older and this would be uh um through remote um it's not an inperson and there was a lot of conversation at the task force about, you know, do seniors know how to use um these types of technology? And we had,
you know, I think we all have examples of seniors in our life that are super savvy and not savvy. And so for those that are that are unable to learn, it's a mental health program um looking to support ages 60 or older and helping them manage depression depression, build
resilience, excuse me, and um res you know, reduce the reliance on opioids. Um I can share that at our test for me task force meetings that we have had here we have heard from um Lake region that some of
um in their emergency departments some of their frequent patients that they do see are seniors who are on lots of different medications and they are not always managing them correctly and there have at times are are presenting themselves in the emergency department
for um overuse. Um and so this would be working with uh that senior population. Um and uh it is multicounties. Um I think three of the five four three
of the five were recommending those dollars. Um >> and I don't see it in here, but part of this as well is they would have electronics that could be checked out. >> Yes. >> So that if someone does not have access, they can get it. >> Yep. And so it's sort of meeting those needs that we saw here where we are
seeing seeing seniors in our emergency departments for just they're on so many medications and they're just not always using them correctly. We know rural health care and access to healthcare in our rural communities can be challenging. And then we also have seniors who at times aren't able to move
themselves from point A to point B um with that lack of a license. They're not comfortable or whatnot. So it's a it's a small investment to look to um to reach those seniors. >> We do some of that on the land in the dancing sky the senior coordinators. Yeah.
>> Within the counties and things like that. So I mean with those with are they going to be part of this process that >> Yeah. So they do have a collaborative um project here to engage you know other agencies as a part of this as well.
I would make a motion to approve the Viv >> Vivie. Vivie. I'll second. >> Okay, we have a motion, a second. Any more discussion? If not, all in favor of the motion signify by saying I >> I
carried. >> I'll make a motion to table remain till two weeks, whatever the 16th. >> Okay. So just to be clear then you we'll we'll review that and then come back and have a further discussion. Okay. Anything you need from me?
>> I'll second that. >> So there's two items and out of seven >> two or three >> two >> three. Yeah. >> Mr. Chair, I think we should request that we get some feedback in quarterly like every three months or something
like that. Maybe have you come back or somebody come back or do a Zoom event or something like that. give us some updates. >> Mhm. >> On progress >> on all the projects >> and well what we've passed or whatever what if there's something that could be measured out there. I think we need a progress report on it.
>> So um here's what we've done in the past and I'd be happy to bring this to you all is annually we have required all of our applicants across all five counties. So maybe you'd be interested in seeing what's happening across the other four counties as well as we have a report that we do give um applicants and um
both your coordinator and then our task force use that for um there's a pretty comprehensive report that you need to give to the state that shows how Grant County is doing that. But then we also have other metrics that I think would be super interesting for you as well to just is this how is this helping in the
communities and how is we how are we meeting these. So, um, we keep we've kept that your report is due in March and so, um, we sort of done that at a calendar year, even if you have a couple months in there. So, then I would be sending those to all of the applicants at the end of the calendar year and then
it's due mid January or something like that, but I could backtrack that as as well and share you have other dollars that you have allocated into the into the county as well. >> That's my opinion. And if the rest of the board's got something to weigh in on that, you know, certainly
>> and you know the other thing too is is annually we are required to have a consultation and partnership meeting and we do that in October, November every year and that's where we invite all the cities and townships to come together and then share here's how we've spent the dollars here's what's been happening
and then there's also an opportunity for people to give feedback to go oh I wish I wish we could be doing some of these projects in the community as well So then how can we share those with other agencies and sort of encourage them to maybe put an application in as well. So
that'll be coming up um in October, November. I don't have the date off the top of my head, but um >> and there's one thing that we this could actually, you know, enhance would be the child youth council and some of the some of the traction and programs that we've been doing there. So I mean if somebody
>> is a part of all of yep, she's on the task force, too. >> So with coming back in two weeks. The wellness piece is is that somewhat in Horizon's wheelhouse? >> I mean, no. This would be I mean, it's
>> not Yes. >> the >> wellness. >> Well, yes. I mean, I would say we're a public health agency. We absolutely have uh some Yeah. So, but what would the request be exactly? Well, I'm just wondering if it is in
we are part of horizon. If it's in your wheelhouse, are you prepared then to come back and offer some or is this a program we're building on our own or just >> Well, right now both of those projects are being proposed by the sheriff's
department. We ourselves we do not have I mean I would need to talk to our director about that for the capacity to be able to support that. I think we would need to have a conversation about how we financially do that as well. And that would be something I would want my administrator to to answer some of those
questions about. Um so I think there's yeah an opportunity to have some more questions about that. >> I have just though the two application I heard two and three. So I just want to make sure. >> Um >> yeah. So and maybe you know
>> we have a motion that we haven't done yet, >> right? >> To table those two. I know I made a motion. >> Can he second it? >> Yeah. >> We just got a vote on it. >> Okay. >> All in favor of the motion say I >> I hear. >> Okay.
>> Great. >> Anything else? Thank you for your time. There was a All right. Well, I am here today. We have received a resignation from our uh current office
manager account type position at highway. Um the strategic planning committee met last week to discuss options. Um you know, we asked, you know, what are things that are going well? What are things that are maybe not? How can we um
improve things? Um and the come treasure of course I'll give you some background. So, in before we hired the current office manager, Count Tech, um we met in June of 2024 to talk about transition
plan of how we're going to um have this position work. And at the time, the county treasurer met with us and um was willing to take on the higher level duties of that role. And so, we reclassified the county treasurer position and the office manager account
type position. So, you know, she was take doing the high level but also being that support for that office manager account tech as she was transitioning in. And then August of 24, we hired um the office manager account tech
position. So, um now we received the resignations. We went back to the table with the strategic planning committee to find out if there was any other changes need to be made. um the option or the the um recommendation I guess from the
strategic planning committee um was that we would move that position to the treasur's office and it would be account tech. So we would um reclassify it as account tech and have it located in the um treasur's office. the treasurer would
take on a um extra also take on some extra duties and then the deputy treasur would kind of be the backup for that account tech or yeah the account tech and then the account tech in the um treasur's office would kind of be the backup then for the deputy treasurer. So
that was talked about as an option. Um and then Friday afternoon we received a letter from um the uh deputy auditors the two of deputy auditors um proposing asking proposing to take on the
absorbing the duties in the office. Uh in the letter it explains that they have u more time to take on those duties with the clerking duties being uh sent to the court leader. So that option also was
brought up. So I think it's important obviously Matt is here today. Uh this is directly affects him and I think that his opinion is probably the most important. So I probably turn it to him what the options talked about. >> You guys have any questions about the
options to begin with? >> Yeah. No, probably being on the committee we should just touch on for the benefit for the order of others at least how we view the technology
that we >> so we talked about um you know with the office you know that office manager contact was the p first point of contact for the office. So, we talked about um setting up phones to have options where
you can select, you know, the numbers to get a hold of Matt, to get a hold of Aaron, to get a hold of Pat or general questions would be then um going to the treasur's office or them to then dispatch to the appropriate people and then um eventually putting, you know,
signage up for those that can do things online, things like that. But at this point, that's kind of where we're at. And I emailed Darren what RC has a product. So that's >> So typically like if you call that 685
number and you get nobody, does that call forward to your cell phones? Would that call? >> Well, we'd set up a a directly saying that's one for Matt, one for me. >> So regardless of if you're not in the office, the cell phone will correct.
>> Yeah. >> If it gets forwarded to our correct Yeah. >> Okay. I have all my desk calls go forward to my cell phone. And I think we talked about officially decided that if
leadership in the office that the door necessarily wouldn't be locked that if someone did a vendor or a conveyor they could open the door if they pray in front the technology then replace it if
they're relevant to you call be realistic. We're an office of two people, you know. In the winter, it's me and Aaron. Pat's out all the time, you know, and in the summer, Aaron's out all the time or he should be more often and not on construction project. So,
generally leaves me in the office and I should probably be out on projects too more often than I am. So, it's kind of a we there really nobody there to answer the questions most of the time as it is. So I think the director he would
actually be more helpful in getting those the calls to the right people that he could get to. >> So what is Matt's preference? >> My preference would be to go with the account type position at the treasur's office.
My concern is that it keeps the physician. If things change down the road, if it's not working or there's concerns that the board has or the public, we can just simply revert back to the way we were without any issues.
And I guess that's and also with Jamie being the designated highway accountant, I believe it would make it more difficult if we get a third department into the mix. It wouldn't be very clean, I would think. So I guess my preference
would be just to keep it with the treasurer's office. Jamie, >> do you have anything to add? um you know just because I've you know I have experience in the position now I think it would be a good transition
again with what he said because this is new right taking that position out of um the highway department moving it up to this office not embedding it into other um other job descriptions is still going
to remain as the highway account tech just in different location under different leadership Um, and if it doesn't work, it would be an easier transition back um to the highway department. And that person would have, you know, more training.
I've been doing it now for over a year. Um, have a pretty good handle on what's going on and and what not and just to help build that retention. Um, you know, we've had went through quite a few in the last couple of years. And that's why I had originally reached out to Matt and
said, "Hey, is there anything I can do to help?" um when I did just to make sure you know we could keep that position rolling and going. Um and I feel like it would be a good fit in my office.
But I think strategically it's where we want to head. We'll receive departments working together also to do some cross trainining. And so I just appreciate Jamie's willingness and but it also I think kind of fits our
vision strategically. So we'll need a motion to So really all we're doing is we're changing the supervisor of the highway count technician >> location moving the position if that's the option you want to make a motion on.
It would be moving the Yeah, the we would be reclassifying the position to account tech. There isn't going to be much change in the body of the job description, but the title would change to account tech and then relocating it under the supervision of the county treasurer.
>> Supervision and location of the treasur. >> Yes. >> And the duties that used to be all wrapped up into one job down there, you've taken about half of it. Correct. >> I I don't I don't I don't know percentage, but I work with that. I work with that position all the time. Right.
>> Right. We're we're constantly doing stuff together. So it would be a smoother transition to Keith right there in house and do like like Ken said do some cross trainining right I think that would you know hold b hold well for us long term.
>> Yep. And then we did talk about um I would be doing those duties, me and my deputy treasurer Kerry would be doing those duties while you know whatever you guys decide whether it go stays down there or or whatever it may be. Um we would be taking on those duties until
that position is filled anyway. >> Okay. >> So Beth came up to train us um just some to the day day-to-day activities was kind of outstanding. Some ARs that's that's out there and whatnot. She came up last Thursday and we went through a lot of that. Um, just the submitting payroll, you know, the day-to-day
activities that I I don't do um, right? >> So, her day-to-day stuff she used to submit to the auditor's office then? >> Yes. So, the the bills and the payroll, right? >> And that would not change. That would still stay intact. >> Correct. >> Yep. So, she enters them and does all of
hers and then submits them to the auditor's office. Um, and then they print their bills, send them out, that kind of stuff. >> So, basically all it's changing is the POS or the location and the supervisor >> and maybe a couple more.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'll be thinking on a few more, but >> I made a motion to move the recommendation. >> Second. Do you have everything you need, Tina? The motion So approve to move the account
technician position to the grand county's chart treasurer's office. Motion made by Ken seconded by Troy. >> Any more discussion that cover what we need? >> Can can I can I speak up? This is Chad.
>> Yep. >> Go ahead. >> Um I was out on Friday so I was unaware of some of this stuff that was going on. First want to say I understand the the rationale or the reasoning behind keeping a position so if you it doesn't
work out it can be transferred back down to the the highway department. I understand all that. Uh I guess I was disappointed in the fact that number one the strategic planning
committee. What I've heard from the administration here in the county and specifically the strategic planning committee is transparency. You know putting everybody in a room that's that's should be there to talk about things.
Um, you know, our office here, we are the finance department for the county. We do payroll, we do bills, we do all of this. This, uh, this is not the first time this has come up. Three times before this, when there's been a resignation or
someone has left the highway department, um, we've had discussions, when I say we, the auditor's office, about possibly taking on those duties up in our office. Am I not correct in saying that >> we
>> we have so when it comes about this time um we were I feel intentionally left out of that entire conversation kind of wondering why if the strategic planning committee is now strategically looking at what's best for the county and it's
nothing against Jamie or the treasur's office or the highway department but myself was never notified of, hey, you know, do you have any ideas about this? Why was that? >> Well, we uh previously when this
position was open, we moved some of those duties to the treasur's office and this was just an expansion of that process. >> Yes. and the cost savings that could happen have no bearing
of an entirely a whole another position. >> Well, as we discussed that if this doesn't work out and we need to move someone back there now, what do we do if we do go and not hire that position and we put those duties elsewhere? The cost savings of a position.
Absolutely. It was discussed, but we don't know that this plan necessarily works. This is the next step. >> Okay. Well, I guess like I said, I was pretty disappointed in the fact that
the office that actually does this work for the county was not even part of any discussion. And that's what we have kept hearing over and over again about let's get everybody in the room
and they weren't with that. I uh I I am going to mute myself and be done. >> Okay, we have a motion in the second.
All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. >> I >> opposed. Period. >> Marco will copy your contract. >> Um, yes, Marco. Um I met with Marle and we went through all the copy your looses
and we have combined some and we've come up with three different contracts. Um one contract that includes the attorney's office, the sheriff's office, the license bureau in highway um is due this year 2025. So when they were here,
we went to the offices and talked to them about their copers. Um when they get their new machine, if there was things they, you know, wanted added or things they would, you know, no longer need. Um and that is the contract that
was sent out in your pocket. Um we did find some cost savings. Um some of the offices no longer use their analog fax lines, so they were removed. Um and you could see in the contract the savings uh
of 10641 monthly 1,276.92 annually and in five years which is the length of the contract we'd say $6,38460. So um I am looking for approval for that contract. That's contract. Um we're calling it number one. It's the one
that's due in 2025. Again, it affects the attorney's office, sheriff's office, license bureau, and the highway department. And um we met with all of them. They were they were good to go. And they'll be getting new machines. I believe it's in October
or November. >> So, this new price includes all 10 machines that we currently mean up obviously updating five of them, but it includes the other five as well for that price. >> Nope. Nope. So the second contract is up in 2027 and that's the assessor's office
and the reporter's office. And then there's a third contract that's up in 2029 and that would be human resources auditor, BSO, coordinator and emergency management. Because when I look at this, I got current situation and we list 10 devices
for 2440 and then the recommended solution is listing five devices for 2334, >> right? Because some of them are going to not use their printers. They're just going to use copers that can copy and print. It's just the restructuring of
the number of devices for those offices that are listed in that first contract. So this 2334 does cover 10 devices. It would be five updated ones, but it also covers the other five. >> I guess that's not the way I read it is
the recommended solution lists those five and then a price. I just wanted to make sure that 2334 wasn't for those just for those five and not the others. No, >> it includes all the dates. Okay. Well, we can't operate it without.
So, I will make that motion. Mr. >> I'll second it cuz we don't want to own. >> No. Any more discussion? >> Not. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I opposed. Grant County cannabis ordinance.
>> Yes. So, the temporary cannabis committee has met many times. We've had our public hearing. Um, we feel like we've come to a good uh final proposed draft of the ordinance
that was set up in the packet for you uh to review. Um the last meeting we did have some conversation about the language regarding the civil penalties. Um we also talked and verified about the
setbacks for the different types. Um we identified all the appropriate fees and amounts. Um, one thing that came up in discussion was talking discussion about the temporary uh, cannabis event licensing
and how that's going to work and public health will be um, approaching that with each of the counties in their district uh, or in their region um, the fourth quarter of this year to work on that. Um, we did have some discussion and added some language under the first come
first serve. In the the rare event that we receive two applications by postal mail on the same day at the same time, a lottery system would be used. And so that's just a very quick snippet of the conversation we had of the last
committee meeting to come up with this uh finalized proposed ordinance that we're looking for approval today. Another important note is um public health will be going live. They will advertise that
um retail uh registration applications will open September 22nd. Um so it would be good for Grant County to have our ordinance. Um we feel it's a good one in place by that time. Um
the only other thing I think that would be new is the delegation um between the cities and the townships. there's been communications with them to let them know that um
you know they don't delegate go to the the state website and delegate that the state will assume that they either won't have their own ordinance um and there be no um regulation or they're going to make their own ordinance I should say. So, so far um
all the cities plan to delegate to Grant County. We have not heard from Ela Lake and Norcross. Elbow Lake is meeting um this month and will get back to us. Reed attended their work session and um we have reached out to the city of Norcross and I'll reach out again today. And then
for townships, we've heard back from all of our townships that we'll be delegating to the county um except we're waiting on Dall Borton and Stony Brook and we'll reach out I'll reach out to them again.
>> Mr. Chair, I got a question. These registration fees, you know, I mean, that's kind of a ground poor thing to begin with. 65% of the registration fee goes to the sheriff's office to offset cost. Well, the renewal fee is 100% going to Verizon Public Health. Is that
something that don't you think we should kind of share those that kind of revenue so it actually gives them working capital in your budget to to do some of the enforcement? And you know, I don't know if 100% of it needs to go to raise the public health.
That's kind of where I'm at. That's my opinion. >> We should share in some of this. >> Yeah. the fees will be we'll have to approve the fees as as its own. first first motion we're looking for is just for the ordinance and then we'll be looking at the fees and the local procedures and there was discussion
about that at the meeting and um I don't know if that's negotiable at public health you know public health they are really doing a lot for us they're >> like going they're going through everything
um I think they should prepare for what they do >> so you are you saying understand should go toward them unreal. I again I don't know if that was a motionable um that was am I correct
>> I don't recall the specific conversation but you know they have take taken a labor before >> they have >> in doing that >> they do put an awful lot of work into it and uh we've seen that firsthand on
committee there and Tina knows has put a lot of work into it, too. So, but uh yeah, I think the fees for the enforcement come out of the there's another category there. We'll talk about that in a minute. I'll make the motion
to approve that cannabis organiz. >> Okay, we have a motion to get a second. >> Second. >> Any more discussion? I've got a question. Help me with the We haven't published this yet, have we? >> No. It becomes effective upon it
publication and I don't know about that summary. >> No. >> Or can you just >> publish that there's a new ordinance and it will be viewable at the coordinator's office Monday through Friday.
>> So ordinarily the summary is V. Not ordinarily if the law says that a summary is being published that summary needs to be published as well. So perhaps just the various chapters
with reference to its availability. So Tina I was looking for it. I can't find it. We also addressed in the committee the the parks campground, excuse me, campground and they had
terminology. We should touch on that here. Where is that in here? It could help >> public public use. >> Is that the part where you're talking Penny where the like uh
>> section seven page 10 use in public places >> page 10. But even though it's public, the owner or the owner of that land or state or use no marijuana just that's what I
liked in that or even though it's public but like like tips on it if they wanted to. They could say no smoking out here. No marijuana smoking out here. Way I see it. >> I know there's questions and I just wanted us to look at it to make sure we
agree on it and I'm fine with it. I just think it's okay to and maybe you all looked at it. >> Public place or place of public accommodation was discussed and the language was added that was consistent with Pope and Douglas County as well as
what they have in their ordinance and it talks about you know what that means and what the exceptions are. And then before my time, there was an ordinance that was passed um the Grand County ordinance
prohibiting cannabis use in public places. So that's already established and in place as well, a supporting document. So, what's our next? Do we uh have to
vote on this before the published or whatever? >> Well, that's why. Yeah, it won't become effective until it's published from a two weeks one published. >> So, we're passing it, but it's not
effective until it's been published. Yeah. So, we have a motion. We need a Did we get a second? >> I second. >> Okay. Any more discussion? All >> in favor? Motion signify by saying I >> I
carried the cannabis procedures. >> Um, yep. You can do that. This was a document that outlines roles and responsibilities when an application comes in. Uh, Horizon Public Health put
this together and it was discussed with the um committee about those roles and responsibilities kind of making sure everyone is aware if they have one and what it is. And um, again, they've done this for the other counties they're
working with as well. And so the reason we're looking for separate motions for the additional two documents um is so if something changes in the future, we don't have to go back through the ordinance process. Um so this is just um yeah the process for cannabis business
retail registration and um kind of that workflow how how it works for the registration to make it through the application process. So could we get a motion for that? So moved. >> Second.
>> Motion and second. Any more discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Car. And then the now the count the fees. You could one more time that micro and bezel
someone micro is employee just you you're you're owner kind of like a like some type of a brewery like a micro brewery you own it yourself and a mental is you have employees to my knowledge. I don't know. Am I
correct on that? Anybody can dispute that. >> You remember Dwight? Cuz I asked it. No, you didn't. >> Yeah, >> we're old enough to forget, aren't we? >> No. Yeah, I I know one has to do with
multiple businesses, too. That probably is the employee in Okay, >> this is Reed. Hey, the uh micro is a smaller scale. You have one location versus mezzo is you have multiple locations. It's kind of the how they distinguish it. They're just basically
different sizes of those businesses and what they own and how it's set up >> as long with employees as well. Correct. >> Yeah, I think that's part of how they split it up a little bit. Yep. That count. >> Yeah. Read
that. It was read. Oh. Okay, thank you. The other thing and we're looking at these fees that public health also did say there will look at their costs and if this isn't covering it potentially there
could be some expense to us on when they retain that >> well and we'll revisit these yearly these fees yearly correct >> like we do everything else I suppose. Yeah. >> Yeah. They'll be a part of the Grant County schedule when we consolidate and make that one document. Um and then the
other thing to note is some of these are capped at what you can charge. The state caps some of them there is a local control over how how much you can charge. >> I'll make a motion we accept the piece
schedule presented. Second a motion in the second to accept. Anybody have any discussion? Not all in favor signify by saying I. >> I oppose. Carried.
>> Okay, Dana. In your packet is um a board agenda form outlining um everything that was discussed at the fair committee meeting. At the last um meeting the county board um requested
that there was a committee to meet about um the capital improvement of the fairgrounds with a new pavilion building. And so we met down in Herman last week, Monday. Um, and the
information in front of you is just an update of what was discussed at the committee meeting. Um, and then they, the fair board plans to come to next week's meeting um, with a formal formal request.
So, I got a question. The update relates to a number budget number of $500,000. Do they have a specific building with all the costs that they will be bringing or included in your packet as a drawing that they
have of the structure and then when they come back they will have um the specs or the bids for that. Um they're really what they would really like is a budget the county board to give them a budget and we talked about that at length. that's not necessarily how how it goes
and you know it has historically gone. they came and asked for an appropriation amount and so um they're working on collecting the bids, but included with the update is the the build the look of the building and they're proposing just
a cold storage building. And um it says in there, I'm sure if you've read it, that who would all be able to um use the building during uh the fair, the Lions, the Legions, the fire departments, the yellow ribbon committee
also talks about their plan for um building a budget to maintain it through rent of the space. The fair isn't in season. Um, a lot of talk about, you know, this is a a safety that's it's moved from, you
know, something needs to be done to something has to be done because of the safety, the condition of the building. Um, and then talking about just the fairgrounds in general and moving forward, how, you know, there could be a good capital improvement plan and they can budget small amounts of money each
year to continue um, addressing the infrastructure needs on the fair grounds to keep the legacy and the tradition of the fair ongoing in Grant County. So you said you'll be coming back next meeting
that you know Doyle would at that point be looking for a $500,000 decision. >> I not exactly sure. I guess >> that that was the amount that in their research they came up with for a new
building and they're they're looking for the county to give them a number of what they'll provide. Well, I think what Ken is asking is we've already talked about the $500,000. If the plan is to have something in place by July 1st of 26, what is the date they need a decision
by? Is it September 16th? Is it December 1st? Is it January 15? What is that date that says, >> "Well, it have to be known before before we do the final budget or whatever levy." Well, that that's a different question than what is the date they have
to know by because >> you're talking Troy Demo and putting that bill building up by >> Well, right because if I mean if they don't have enough if the con they can't get contractors to do it next year, it needs to be done over the winter. Let's say let's say somebody says I can do it
for that price, but I have to do it over the winter. Well, then concrete has to get in before winter. Otherwise, you're going to pay to heat it. And so I mean and I don't expect anybody to know that answer today, but I think that is something that in two weeks we should know that if it's
>> they're they plan to be on the agenda and um but I I think they want to know what the counties >> it's going to be a pole building. So a building will be built before it gets cemented. >> Yeah. The other part of it that's right was part of my question. The other part of it is
it has to tie into our budget because we got to explain to the if we agree the support of the fair which I do but we got to explain it to the taxpayer and what's the fiscal note and and the
plan and I guess without that it's hard to vote. Are you talking plan Kenny like how to finance it or? >> Yeah. If we're going to pay it forward to the 16th and we get asked for if the half a million is it and and we got to
say yes or no, you know, Ken's going to say how does it fit into budget? And I guess do we have any of that piece fit or we take it out of reserve? that we I don't >> the rendering that you see in on in the
computer here that that bid was 226,000 wasn't that number on that was kind of laid out there. So >> that was just the building >> that was just the shell. >> Yeah. The committee is going to come with all that information. I think the committee is looking to the board. you
know, they want you to have time to think about that so you have an idea of what you're willing or able to do so you can let them know so they can move forward with the project. >> Well, that's perfect. So then I'm going to ask the budget committee, finance committee, Troy and Bill, you need to
let us know prior to this 16th how this is going to fit. >> Well, yeah. Now, you know, the options on how to pay for it, but maybe not all of it this year, you know, like maybe can we bond for it or what can we do
here? But, you know, to to come up with 500,000 and put it on our levy, that ain't going to work. >> Bonding is not an easy process. >> No. And if you do five years at 5%, you're paying an additional $56,000. >> Yeah. The shorter life of a bond, higher the interest.
>> Yeah. I'm going to just just look at some options then see if we have them. >> I mean, it's not a lot different in our own life. There's a lot of things I'd like just so happen to afford them. And
so, we need that piece prior to 9:00 up to 16. That's just my thought. So now when when they did this bathrooms, where did when you borrowed the money, where did you get it from? USDA? >> No, we got that from the bank.
>> Okay. So that's just private private funding. >> Okay. >> Part of that other building was it that was a USDA grant, but when we went through them, that was another 60ome thousand because you got to have
engineers and all this stuff, right? It's just >> public money. >> It's a way to waste more money. My my opinion, but whatever. >> So, we bumped up their contribution to be able to cover the cost of that loan. Correct.
>> Yep. >> Just to be clear because it was Did we give them another What was that? 5,000 10,000 >> went from 25 to 40. >> No, before it was over. Yeah, it was 20 to 18 to something whatever that number
was. I don't remember where that went back. But the passion and the emotion for the project cannot precede the facts of the financing. >> Well, I will say this. Have you had your eyes on that building down there? Have you looked at it?
>> There's no question. And I'm not arguing that and I'm not I'm just saying how are we going to pay for it and what's our strategy. Can you stand up in front of the people and explain the program? Yes or no? Oh, we got two ways to come up with some options here.
Okay, we're going to move on. H board appointment. Uh Dale Richards is not he's been down there like 25 years or something and he's having some health issues and he's
not going to rerun. So Dale and I talked to uh Terry Christians and he is he said he would do it. So, I'm going to um nominate Terry Christians for the
Grant County HR board. I'll second that. Mr. Chair, I'm going to bring up that this is not following the procedure we just adopted for appointments to boards. Where you got to apply pretty small to draw something down
there. So, well, according to call the request, I don't know why he sent this, but yeah, >> he said that we don't have to do that, so I don't bother. Well, then we don't
have to approve it. >> I just You got to bring me up to speed. Jim is here's one thing and then we this procedure help me out Troy with that this summer. This summer we just adopted
a procedure for appointments to boards. there's an application period that you know published in the paper that we're gonna we have this position that is open and we're looking for applicants and it doesn't say you can't reapply if you're on the board doesn't say you can't you
have to be on a board to apply we did that so the first appointment to come up after we pass that we're not following that so Mr. share. If we had followed what Troy just said,
would our outcome be any different? Do you think? >> No. Would it be any different? Because nobody else was going to do it sometimes. >> So, in a sense, we could >> we'll do it next time. >> Go through the outcome and vote on after
we've done stay consistent with our >> Yeah, we could do it next meeting. What's it got to be advertised? Two weeks or what? >> I don't remember what the policy says for all of them. So there is there is an email here from Jim this morning because I sent the the
board agenda form to him that was going to be at the meeting and he said that the Grant County H is not a committee of the Grant County Board of Commissioners. The Grant County H is a separate legal entity. So he asked to please have Doyle nominate Terry Christians to the Grant
County H board of commissioners for Doyle's district. and the Grant County Board of Commissioners take affirmative action on the nomination. The term is for 5 years and will begin on September 11th, 2025. Needs to be done
until after September 11. >> Sounds like we got a time frame to deal with. Mr. Sure. >> We have >> I would say call for the question. >> Justin, want to weigh in on this? Obviously, we have some thoughts here. >> No. So, Jim is right that the H is a
separate entity. Um, the statute's clear that the commissioners appoint members to that board. Um, you know, you determine how those board members are appointed. You know, there's
nothing in the statute that requires the the notice and publication, but that is a process that the the board can utilize in gauging interest. You know, there are other statutes that require specific
protocols. So, when you appoint managers to the void watershed district, you have to publish for at least 15 days before you appoint. Um, things of that nature. Um, so if I understand, Dale is done
September 11th. >> Yeah, he's not he's not rerunning. >> So regardless, you know, of what the policy is, the language, you know, seems to indicate that it's
mandatory that you shall fill vacancies for the unexpired terms. So, I don't know if we're filling Dale's until he's >> I No, I think the 11th is the term >> is the term. >> I believe that if I remember seeing like the list of the appointment, right?
Yeah, the appointment. It's the 11th is the term. >> So, you know, I see the point about um you know, the policy being in place and the first thing that you do when you have an open appointment is disregard your policy. Um but at the same time, it
seems like there's a You know, I think ordinarily what happens is that you know the the commissioner on the H has to serve and if there is a vacancy then it goes to the commissioner's district because there is a requirement that
um you know commissioners reside within a specific boundary or area and historically the board has you know if Bob Grover decided that he didn't want to you know reup his term or resigned, then
Dwight Bob would have a conversation about who might be a good replacement. That's historically what has been done. Um, you know, so I can't tell you thumbs up or thumbs down. I can tell you that you
have this policy in place and how you're going to fill board appointments. And I can tell you that the appointment of HA board members doesn't require that you know under statute that that policy may follow. Any more discussion on this? So, you made a recommendation or do we
need a >> I made a motion to to nominate Terry to the H board. Bill seconded, I think. Yeah, it was Bill. It was >> all for the question. Mr. Chair,
>> all in favor of the motion second by saying I >> I >> I >> carried. Personnel committee Troy. This is the uh motion.
Hold on. Let me get my glasses. All right. I move that the first count committee or the entirety of the Grant County Board of Commissioners is Grant County's only official line of communication with our bargaining units, individuals, or employees acting without the consent or at the direction of the
personnel committee or Grant County Board of Commissioners cannot communicate on behalf of the county. Nothing contained herein shall abridge the right of employees to engage their bargaining units or other pro protective activities under the pe.
This is just formalizing what we talked about couple years ago. I believe it was in 23 and I went back and looked at the minutes and it was never noted. We never had a motion or anything like that. That was just a consensus I
believe. What's the acronym stand for? The last P A E L R K. >> Public employee waiver relations act. >> Thank you. So, we need a motion for this. >> This is my motion. >> Okay.
>> I just read it for the record. He's got a copy of it. >> We have a motion. We need a second. We'll second it. We >> have a motion and a second. Any more discussion? Not. All in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. I.
>> Oppos. Car. >> Grant County Sheriff's Office. >> I need to take off, but I don't want that to be seen as, you know, anything as reflective. I you know the first time we met about Axon I indicated that I
thought it would be a good tool. So I just to share that start me off because I don't like it. >> So if I could while you're still here I think it's on page eight that references that data owned by the individual. Where
was it I read this? >> How many summary Patrick? I think >> the property of the deputy and something like that. Does that sound right? >> Well, it would it would be the property of the GR County Sheriff.
>> Yeah, I'm sure it's fine. >> Thank you, Jess. >> Yeah, we defeated the penalty. Good morning. >> Morning. >> Okay, so you're four minutes overdue. Sh. Thank you for your time. I also have our
um ax on online and he can jump in to ask or answer any questions or don't just feel shy to him. But um we are back um with the same proposal um
but the price um and we can walk through a couple of the different things. Um, I can tell you that John and I have met with the um the public safety committee a couple times and we've um you know been with Chad with
um working on our budgets and you know setting our preliminaries. Um everything is kind of up in the air with our wages. So, I I can't give you a good number, but um you know, we believe that this would be the best um
a great agency to um work with what we what we have right now. >> So, I could. >> Yep. Under the action page eight where it says draft one drafts incident report narratives from
BWC audio so offers can cut report writing time. Every report is reviewed slashowned by the officer owned. Now that shows possession. >> Okay. So everybody has to do the report. Yep. That is their report. They have to
proofread it. would our report writing time will be slashed because it's going directly off of our body warn canvas. >> But but we are current owners of our own reports now through our current records
management kit. >> So if they didn't want to release it, they wouldn't have to. >> That's not up to the individual Bethany to make that decision. That's up to administrative and records when it comes to the release of information. So that word owned isn't really
>> important. No, >> no, no. We have to when we release information, it's got to come through a data request uh to our office under statute and we got to abide by that and then also work with the county attorney and in the release of information and
dissemination disclosure on his part is is on his end uh for charging purposes, defense attorneys. But no, it's it really means nothing in the language of Axon. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> I missed part of that. So,
>> well, is it is it just stating that Axon is not making a claim that they know would be my suspicion? >> Right. Right. Right. >> And I think another thing is it's been that way forever, but you write the report, you're responsible for it, you own it.
>> Yeah. to interpret >> and that may be because if you have the redaction and the report the AI part of it may be a a disclaimer in there that you know this is the deputies and just because our AI wrote it if it's not
right that's still the deputy's fault it's on them >> you got to sign off on every page everything >> so that may have been a bigger disclaimer than we thought it was than anything >> yeah and then in in that packet that I sent you. Um it also I know that you
wanted to kind of look at um some other policies that what it includes the AI portion of it and so in there is in that packet is a a couple of examples. Um so we chose Axon for a number of
different reasons. Just going back to the to the base and the front of everything. Um you know we believe it it fosters transparency. It it holds people accountable. It's open communication between law enforcement and the communities we serve. Um and I can give
you example for communities we serve. um you know if somebody wants to like send us something like if it was a digital um they we can just send them a link through Axon and it's just automatically uploaded which would be a lot more time consuming of what we have to do right
now to be able to get videos or you know um um and the different agencies we work with um our surrounding counties around us um everybody but Travers or Wilin Ottertale Douglas and Stevens County are
all using Axon. So, um if they happen to help us um if we needed their backup, it'll let dispatch know that there is somebody in our area with that ax on. So, we just know that we're being doubly covered, you know, whether it's >> safe
>> and state patrol. Yes. >> They do ask for it though, correct? >> Yep. we would have to ask for it, but it'll automatically once we receive it, it'll just click right into into our evidence and it'll it'll make Tina's job a lot easier and it'll
organize it just perfectly. Um, which that'll help the the defense attorneys and our county attorney when it comes to receiving information. >> And I could have misunderstood that presentation. The way I what I thought I heard say was that say the state patrol
responds to a scene where there's something going on. Their cameras are automatically put into a an incident. You wouldn't necessarily have to All those recordings from that all those cameras would be available at one. >> Yep.
>> And maybe I misheard that. You'd have to still ask for it. Correct. >> Well, I think I think you have to still get permission. Okay. >> If they want to. >> Yeah. It's their own codes. >> Yeah. Yeah. But it would it would just kind of be in ours pending until we
>> Yeah. Yeah. I believe >> three biggest agencies in the whole state of Minnesota, the BCA, State Patrol, and DNR all utilize Axon. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And you guys back up Otter Tale and Douglas. >> Oh yeah. >> State Patrol, DNR.
>> All of the BCA. >> It's not just them backing grant up. We're backing them up, too. >> Yeah. We back up state patrol more than they back us up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. We do a lot here. >> Yeah.
>> Um it promotes consistency. It's I believe it's a very professional and respectful um agency. It's got clear standards. Um it I believe it it'll help reduce the risk in the field by supporting tools
such as the AI, the report writing. They also have through AI that if if a deputy has a question about our our own policies, which you know that can hang somebody if we don't follow our policies, you have the ability to ask
our body warning cameras. Is this in our policy? And it'll tell you yes or no. Like it'll and it'll give a great a great description of why. Um so I think that's a very supportive tool. Um might save some phone calls at night from us.
Maybe not. Um training um I believe that their their training to especially the tasers we will have like it's called a VR and it's like a mask you put on and it's um scenario based training. So you're going
to get the repetition of you know what a what a taser feels like you know when you pull the trigger and um it's just great. They have great training tools. Um, I believe it supports continuous learning and preparedness preparedness
through the real world scenario training and I believe it'll strengthen our partnerships with our local governments and our community leaders just everybody we work with. So, if you wanted to go um they also
made a 10-year vote summary and we can kind of go through that. So, on the page two, um you know, all the equipment. So, this is for the bodywn cameras,
um the taser 10s and the fleet. And so we would receive a hardware refresh schedule on the cameras, the bodywn cameras at 30, 60, 90, and 120 months. We would receive the camera docs
for 30, 60, 90, and 120 months. So that would be the same. The Taser 10 certification program hardware is every 60 months. And then the VR headset, uh, which is our training tool for Taser 10, that's at 30, 60, and 90 months. And
then the Axon fleet camera kits, they would be um refreshed at 60 months. Um at first we had just the annual payments which is on page three. And um after meeting with
the public safety committee, um Troy was wondering if maybe it would be better to have um semianual payments. Um, and so they have that lined out in um on page two.
And so I think Troy's reasoning is maybe there's more money coming in in August and in January. >> Well, we get half of our >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so when we did go through the auditor with our budgets, um, you know, he didn't really think it
would make too big of a difference if we did one or two. Um, if you do look at the monthly the savings per year, if we did annual payments, we would save just a little bit more. Well, okay. So, it's
it's um is it 16 16 payments for the the 41 and then it's 78,000 a year if we did the annual payments.
So, I guess that is entirely up to you, whatever you guys feel. Chad didn't think it would be that big of a deal, but if if you wanted it the two payments, we can surely do that. >> It's the same price though, right? >> It is the same price. Yep. So, we've we
received uh multiple discounts. Again, not as much as we did, you know, the last time I was here, but we do have the price down to 815 um $866.38 >> over 10 >> over 10 years. Yep. Yep.
Um, and I know that Jonah, um, if we had any questions about what happens after the 10 years, he's here to to help. And Jonah, do you want to speak a little bit? >> Yeah, absolutely. Um, obviously, thank you for for having me on commission. Um,
I really happy to be here and and like Jen was saying, I think this is a a really comprehensive solution and and something really big for the department moving forward. Um, if anybody does have any outstanding questions or concerns, I'm happy to answer them. Um, I think when it comes to what a renewal looks
like 10 years from now, um, you know, multiple hardware refreshes throughout the the course of the contract. So, uh, your body one cameras, uh, are replaced at the very end of the contract. So, that's not going to be a cost that rolls into the renewal. you don't necessarily
have to uh like renew your your Axon fleet camera kits, but I I think at the time what renewal would look like is probably getting you guys some new camera kits and then repurchasing that same technical assurance plan to have the next 5 years covered. Um and then with the Taser 10, you'd be purchasing
new taser handles at that point. Um but we do supply buyback credits um for any taser hand purchased over the contract. So there is that discount going into it. Um and then all of the the VR is is handled within that same uh taser 10 program. So obviously you know a renewal
it's hard to estimate what prices and uh inflation will cause uh you know where prices will be in the next 10 years. Um but I would say with the body one camera um and the camera dock portion of the contract that's not going to be a cost um going into your renewal. So that's
part of the hardware refresh. Um I think just the one thing I wanted to to highlight and I'm happy to answer questions around this but um the Axon AI error plan that we've included in this package um that is currently about seven
or eight specific um tools that increase um efficiency and allow for time savings of anywhere between you know 40% is conservative estimates 70% when it comes to report writing report accuracy redaction all of those tools. Um but the
this plan it it allows the department access to these AI tools for the next 10 years. Um just at our sales summit, you know, a couple weeks ago, we were shown eight eight new tools that are slated for 2026 and 2027. So, um, you know, this is an ongoing benefit to the
department and the, uh, cost that we've been able to, um, get approved for the plan. I think, uh, it's going to pay for itself multiple times over, um, in terms of reduced overtime hours, retention of officers. Um, there's just a lot of value in that. So, I want to make sure,
um, that's clearly understood. But, um, yeah, happy to answer any questions or address any concerns if anyone has them. >> Thank you. I got a question, Mr. Chair. So, this highly scalable cloud storage, who who
keeps that intact? So, there's no hacking or, you know, is it that system? These guys here that'll take care all of that. >> Yep. >> So, that should never be an issue. Never has been an issue. >> Okay. >> You can tell if there's people sniffing around in your system and you can
quarantine them. >> Yeah. Well, I would say externally. I mean, we, you know, we're a law enforcement specialty company. We, uh, our security protocols are very, very high. Um, so we've never had breaches in terms of cloud cloud-based security. Um,
even more interesting, internally, we do have audit trails on every single piece of evidence. Anytime any person or user is clicking around uh, in that digital evidence management system, uh, it is recorded whether they just opened a piece of evidence, clicked on it, looked at it, um, every single piece of meta
interaction is recorded. So uh internally externally you're going to have uh you know very secure database. Yes. >> Thank you. And I know that the public safety committee, we've been through like the cost savings um like through our budget
um and after, you know, John and I, we met with Chad about our preliminary um budgets, you know, we believe that there we have some other um line items that we reduced, you know, for more cost savings um you know to be able to budget
this into our into our budget right now. So >> I got I got a question. >> Yeah, >> Mr. Chair, go ahead. >> Um so what what did it do to your percentage of your budget then with plugging this in? >> Well, >> I mean without the wages. >> Yeah. And so
>> did you look at that? >> We we've never seen a sheet. >> We haven't seen that sheet yet. I mean we finished up uh >> but you had a last week. >> Yeah. You said you reduced things in other areas. We did. Okay. And don't you think that some of this material that
we're getting now >> would be in your budget anyway? I mean, in your equipment budget? >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that's that's how I kind of see this is, you know, Yeah. So, >> could you go
>> having the two of you expound on that what you said there? >> Oh, okay. So, they have equipment budgets and uh some of this stuff is going to be in there because they're going to be using it. They're I mean it's the future. And so, I guess what
I'm saying is that some of this cost, the industry's cost would be in there anyway with their budgeting every year. >> Well, a little further like are you like referring to tasers or technology? are
I'm referring >> they don't have body cams. >> No, but I'm I am referring that they they they will have body cam. I mean, nobody's functioning without them anymore. >> No, >> that's what I'm saying at the >> Well, yeah. So, minus the body cam, two of the things that we would have looking
at replacing moving forward are tasers and squad cameras, for instance. So, that's two of the three. >> So, if you're peacemealing it for instance, what you're saying would be a cost anyway. Correct. We're here. is a full program. >> Right. Right. Right. >> That makes sense.
>> And it's, you know, we we need an upgrade of everything. Um, so it's I I know it's a lot of money, but it this this is the future and this that it's not like it's not a necessity because it is. It is.
>> So, did you guys plug in some of your public safety funds? >> Yes. So if you um so just like the proposal that we had a couple months ago um so we would you know we received 22,000 from the the BGA and the federal
grant so we would use that for the down payment. So the our first payment is going to be $108,000 156 which that is that is entirely not even money out of the levy. Um it's the 22,000 from the BGA. Um, then we're
using some other traffic diversion funds which is 2,00 excuse me 26,56 and then the sheriff's public safety aid funds that was 60,000 uh which would give us 108. So even when it wasn't budgeted we were still going
to give these non- levy monies to that which >> Yep. Yep. So, our first payment, I believe if it have it, the down payment on each of your either the semianual payment plan or the annual payment plan,
that first down payment would be $108,956. >> So, we essentially covered the first payment for 26 for 26. >> Yeah. plus I mean plus more because if if we did the annual payment at 78,000
and if we did the two two uh the semianual payments and it's 41,000 in August of 26 and then August of 27. So you referenced it the 815866.
How much did that change from when you come back with a additional discount and we didn't decide? >> How much more did we >> or is it lower or higher or much higher? >> It's much higher. >> I mean when we first presented
um and you know take in consideration the time frame of it all. Yes. Um, I think we were looking at $166,000 increase. >> Yeah. >> Uh, to the same package, you know,
>> June 1st versus number. >> When you come back with that corrected amount, >> what was that? 815. You know that number? >> That was 7. You have the old figure 754. >> I just took I took that >> something like that. I I don't quote me
on it, but I some reason that number sticks in my head. >> I don't think the nine I think. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. When's that bigger? >> So that was this was the deal that I had presented. Yes. >> And now what is it? 816. >> 816. >> That was the 224,000
of savings. >> Yeah. >> Total, right? >> 1999. >> Is that what it was? >> Except at the 759 price. Yeah. Um but that but they said July 1st, you know, the AI pricing was going up.
Um and so um I did talk to Jonah and I talked to um his supervisor and his managers and they um gave us more discounts to get us down to 815. But the the in the the price increase
from 759 to 815 was it's all AI. So yeah. >> So about like how much is that? 7,000 >> two. Yeah. What you said? >> Uh it's about 60,000. >> Yeah. I think uh just for reference um quick
comments. So yes, the original that was proposed in June uh where we had like a promotional AI uh discount was around that 759,000 without that promotional discount. uh we were looking at 966,000
um which you know as soon as I started talking with deputy vond we you know we still wanted to push this forward and so we're able to get it down to that 815 um the way the the difference in the quotes some things like shifted around in different ways and the quoting team uh sort of handled that but yeah getting it
down to the E15 um roughly around $150,000 um that we were still able to take off so um a little about 45,000 higher than what the prejune price was, but again about 150,000 less than what standard pricing would be for all of the things included.
>> Uh that's >> I got Mr. Chair. Go ahead. >> So if if what you guys are putting forward covers 26, is this a budget concern for us this in September? I would dispute that
covers 26. There's $83,000 in the budget for 26. This is the down payment of 25. Okay. So, if we did an annual payment, it would be 70. In November of 2026, it
would be $78,545. And if we did the semiannual payments in 2026, it would be $41,582 in August of 26. And then in January 27 would be another 41,582.
>> Right. And that we talked about doing that. So that's how you get to that 83 is if you add them. I didn't realize there was a $3,000 penalty for paying twice over the year rather than >> Yeah. Yep. So >> So
that 3,000 is per year. So that 10 years is $30,000 worth of penalty if we do it that way. >> Is that what I'm hearing? That's what the their proposals are. So, >> do you want to do that? >> It's uh yeah, it was a little confusing even on my side of things. Um so, it's
not a penalty. It's just that instead of there being right one down payment and then nine individual payments, it's one down payment, 16 semi semiannual payments, and then one final payment. So, the total cost of both contracts is
exactly the same. you whether either invoicing plan it can be a tiny bit confusing but really it's just that one last off payment offsets all of the previous semianual payments if that makes sense. So there's no total cost difference. Um just kind of looks looks
interesting when you have uh 18 total payments with one of them being the same size as the other uh 16. I got a question June 17th meeting and we had reviewed and you had quoted us.
Is what we're looking at today different from equipment than it was on the June 17th? >> No. So it's the the same exact equipment. Yep. Same exact full All we all we really did was it got updated into um that higher cost at the end of
June because that's what we were pushing. Um, and then when Chief Deputy Vond and I uh revisited it, we uh got that discount down, but nothing, you know, linewise the quotes have changed. That's
>> the the cost now 8:15. >> Because there back there total cost and then it was with tax was 83. >> It's not taxable. So >> everything is the same as what I presented in June, but the AI price went
up July 1st. That is the only thing that is different in this packet. >> And I don't know what if the sales but what I'm getting at it went from 803 to 850. It didn't go up that much. You're see you're quoting a number that's way higher. See 150 some thousand. I'm
looking at page 20 of the June 17th of your quote. I'm not trying to I'm just wondering if there's a difference in equipment. >> No, there's nothing. >> It doesn't appear that our lack of ability to decide cost us 150ome
thousand. I want to be clear of that because it doesn't look like it did. >> Well, the AI pricing went up $66,000. >> Okay. 66, >> isn't it? Right. I believe 66. So, and it can it can be, I would say, just a tiny bit confusing on that point because
it does look like in this updated copy, we did discount the AI as opposed to the fleet. Um, so in the previous quote, some of those discounts were coming more on the fleet side than on the AI side. The AI was still discounted due to the promotional. Um, with this price, we've
actually taken the um AI down uh per user per month by 40 from that original contract. Um, but then the fleet uh contract went or the fleet amount went from the 134 to uh 252. So the way the
quoting team offsets some of those some of those costs are are sort of just based on my input. So when I reach out, you say, "Hey, discount this." Um, but discounting the AI side of things um was really just an intention to try and get it back in that realm of of what you guys were looking at costwise um you
know pre that June. But no, nothing has changed in the entire deal. It's the same exact uh thing. It's just some pricing has been shifted around. Um and that extra 150,000 is is just due to the loss of that that promotion. So
>> the quote that you had that was expiring June 30th, >> I'm sure you have it where it says total estimate with tax 83,000. Is that the comparable quote to A15?
Yes or no? >> Yes. I'm not seeing the 8003,000. I'm seeing the 7 >> 759. >> I know. >> You may you may be looking at an old quote that had a tax
adjusted to it. >> Um, if that's the one you're referencing, Ken. So, we had reminded them that we're tax exempt. So the quote that we actually presented back in June was 75989.90
that was the total dollar amount. >> Okay. >> Okay. So um not the 803 that would that would have reflected the tax associated with it. So what we presented back on June 17th was at 759 amount
>> and so now the latest amount uh because we missed out on the promotional on the AI package we are looking at the 815866. >> So if you were to subtract the difference in those overall totals you'd
be right around $56,000 in difference in price >> not 150 something. Well, right. >> Well, I'm just saying >> it's it's like Yeah, it's like Jonah said, you know, we we moved the numbers away from one part of it to make that
look better, but actually the the addition is all there. So, >> the point would be if if I had to answer to someone that because we didn't decide in June, this is the net defend. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. So if we go with the one payment option,
when will that payment be early year? >> The one payment that would be at August or excuse me, November. >> Okay. Say the 30,000. Wouldn't that make sense? >> Well, it's a difference in the final payment. It
>> It's really not a penalty. It's >> you're Yeah, it'll after 10 years, the amount is the same. It's just by making an annual payment. You just don't have to budget an additional 3,000 every year. So it says here that your code is good
through the end of September. Would that be accurate? >> Yes, sir. So, uh, from manager, supervisors, and then our finance team, we've been able to sort of reauthorize this discount through the end of September. Um, I would have to go back to my quoting team and and have it
requed and and go through the same approval process. And so, you know, I think working with chief deputy, we've tried to um, you know, express a the value of the program, but also mitigate any, you know, roadblocks in the month of September. Um, but, you know, so
again, yes, this quote expires at the end of six months. >> But, but you said you'd have to go back, you have to go back in September to rec price it. >> No. No. So this both of these options that we provided fully executable all through the end of the month of
September. Um you know ideally we'd like to try and uh you know capitalize on that. Um and I would just have to go back and get it recoded um if it was post September. So Well, I think and I did I I don't if I heard you right. You said you hadn't
seen the some of the budget specifics for your department uh yet. >> Well, just because the weight, you know, that's >> the >> that's hard to what are we going to do with the weight? You know, I >> Oh, no. I understand that the rest of I
get the question I have Mr. We somewhat back to the same discussion we had last time. This relates to the to the budget or the work the finance committee would be working on your bill.
The information I have no this is with no wages is the rest of it levied. So, it gets complicated when we talk about sheriff's office because you've got 911 funds, you've got other funds that aren't,
>> but I consider outside of the levy amount. So, if you just take the 200 fund, >> it went up $57,000 from 25 to 26. Now, that does not include any wages. That's just the line
items I went through and added up that are not wage related, whether it's insurance or those other ones. So, that was the information I had as of last week. Does that kind of answer what your
question was? that does not. Yeah, there's like other there's other funds that aren't. So it sounds like you were able to trim some additional costs out of your department in this process
>> which you know we were obviously you know asked to you know really do and take a look at just like any other department within the county you know budget wise and you know find that we've you know overbudgeted potentially for certain for
some things where you know if we take the last two three years and look at what our overall cost associated with that specific line item was. So, yeah, we over overbudgeted for that. So, we'll we'll, you know, try to reduce that by $20,000 or um reduce, you know, our
equipment budget for 24 was was quite high and 25 were we're or 24 and 25 was high mostly 25. 26 27 we're not going to see those costs associated with equipment because of the way the
rotation of the squad cards went. So um so we took that in consideration and I can talk about those things openly like this but I can't give you a specific number because I don't I don't have that number in front of me. So, well, so that is and that's one of the questions I wanted to talk about too is the the
squad leases went down like 25,000 and that's just Ford's finally stabilized as far as we know and I um >> and I think it's because we carried so many over and we right
>> we carried some over extended leases just because of availability and the lack of mileage when we you average 36,000 a year on a squad, 110,000 milei lease over three years. Um extended some of those out to four a year, 85,000
milei leases. Um and yeah, we got hit hard in 25 with squad cars coming in. You know, I've got one on order now again to replace one starting here in 26. I think the way it sits right now, we will replacing just one car in 2026.
or 25 to replace like seven or eight of them >> and we don't have a you know that's just the way that it's made and you got to go pick it up you know >> so in a few years you'll get whammy again but >> well no because we were able to kind of
stretch things out now a little bit as far as how the rotation went and uh on new leases there were a couple that were moved to a 4-year lease versus a three Um yeah, where when I talked about
changing uh leases, that was done mid lease, right? where we said, "Well, we need to make this change so uh we don't end up having to purchase or lease more squad cars." >> Because, and that maybe answers my question because if you take on a
$78,000 payment and you add the cost to operate operational costs for the law enforcement center and equal to 50 some thousand, there's got to be some huge savings somewhere else. Of course, once we see the budget, we'll see that. I
just was kind of wondering, oh, but this makes sense. You know, we did see some cost savings, you know, with we won't have the watch card maintenance fee. That's our fleet right now. That's 22,000. We won't be having to spend money on taser
cartridges because it's all in this program. Even our training cartridges are um included. So, anytime we use a cartridge, it's replaced. If something happens, it's replaced. No questions asked. Um you know, right now
we're we're paying for servers, you know, so that's 22,000 every two three years. Um you know, upgrade to our EL5, which is our fleet right now. That's about $8,000 a year.
you know, we we haven't had a taser upgrade for years. So, I mean, that's a cost savings if we were just to buy out individual tasers. Again, that's, you know, this is all bundled and, you know,
broken down as well as our inquad cameras. Those need to be replaced as well. So, >> you guys are still budgeting for radios too, correct? But right now, we don't there's no reason to uh budget because there is nothing better than what we're currently
running as far as the Apex goes. >> Okay. >> And I I'm not aware of uh any end of life or anything that's new or beneficial to us. Um, you know, generally, and Tina might
be able to even answer this question better, you know, back in the radio day when we first started armoring it all, do they generally when we get a notification saying, "Hey, this is going to be the latest and greatest thing." How far
ahead have do you recall that we would see that a year? I mean, as soon as new products are available, they're marketing that they're regional meetings, right? The vendor. >> Yeah. And we're not hearing any of that. So,
you know, it's >> these radios should be good for 10 years. >> No, they're Yeah. for 10 15 years. Um this I mean even though we moved to the latest and greatest the Apex which I had budgeted for a number of years ago if
you remember um over a three-year period um we are still utilizing the XTLS and the XTS's which first came out when Armor started. And when I say we're using, not necessarily from our office, but all the fire departments, ambulance
services are using those. A lot of that stuff was donated equipment from us >> to them to utilize that and they're still up and running with no issues. So yeah, the radios um right now that is not necessarily on the radar. >> Okay.
>> For for budgeting stuff and keeper, >> Mr. Chair, there a question. the public safety committee. Is that Bill and Joy? >> No. Go ahead. >> So, would you agree that
what you've been meeting that giving ourselves till the 16th would be advantageous to see where some of these budget numbers come in for us to formulate a decision? >> Well, it's not going to hurt anything. I
mean, if the quote, which the gentleman did say was good through the end of the month, I just think that we're getting right to the preliminary time, which at the end of September, >> there's a date in September, and I don't
remember if it's the last day or 29th, I think it is, >> but but more than likely, we're going to see something on the 16th. It's going to be on the agenda, I guess, right? Do you agree, Tina? So to me between public safety and budget
it just I think makes good sense that well and it's a large amount of money. If there's any questions that comes up from anybody in the next two weeks again because we've we had more information this time than we had the last time right so as you think about it there may be more questions that come up.
I think I think another thing and I don't disagree with waiting on that but I look at the liability aspect of this equipment. It's going to reduce our liability and it's uh that's a big thing though. It's
going to reduce overtime for the deputies coming into court because they're going to be able to see all this what's going on. They're going to be making a preview. So I I know that'll happen. to start the report writing. I wish they
had that when I was working that long because it's it's stressful, it's burdenful, and it's time consuming for those deputies where they could be out on that road uh rather than writing reports. Um that way you lost your hair.
>> Yeah, part of it. But it's stressful because like the they when they say you own it, you own your report. You you wrote it. you wrote a deputy and this is what you said in there and uh you know you own it with I'm pretty excited about
that and I did have the opportunity to ride with my grandson on Egan on Saturday they got this equipment you know I just quite remarkable see how it goes you know right away
stopped this car and the I started tustling with him. I'm sitting in the squad and he's out there cuffing him on the hood of the car, but his camera came right on. Everything was going on and uh it was uh quite entertaining to say the
least. But uh but no, it's if we can swing it, it's definitely the future. So, but anyway, that's my two cents. >> Anybody else got anything? I think if we can have some cost savings
moving forward, you know, and not, you know, just sit back and, you know, I agree. Ken's probably right. Maybe we should make sure that we we have a comfort zone for this prelim preliminary levy that we're going to plug in, but I don't know if I want to waste another
30,000. You know, I think we should do the one payment thing. You know, we already walked away from 56,000. They add another 30 to it. That's good business. And when we met with the auditor, you know, he didn't
he he it wasn't going to be very much of a burden like if Yeah. I think just before um I hop off today, and sorry to to keep jumping in. I don't have a a hand raised there, but um are there just any concerns or any sort of
anticipated questions? I know I understand it's it's a little bit more about budget allocation at this point, but um anything I can address um you know going into the next two weeks um looking towards that September 16th committee. >> Thank you for your time.
Yeah, thank you guys. I'm going to I'm going to run, but uh I'll I'll stay in close contact with Sheriff and Chief Deputy, and I'll I'll be on that uh call as well to answer any new questions as they come up. >> Is there anything else that I can >> Is there anything else that I can do in
the meantime or >> Not for me? I get >> Ken's kind of in high. >> No, I I just I think it's really important and I Bill the way you said it didn't feel was good as but I think it's
okay to exhibit due diligence even if it does cost you some once in a while. It's part I think is our job >> and I know someone could debate the 50 some thousand but it's reality. If we had done it four years ago it might have been way less too.
>> Absolutely. no different than any the bigger project that we've taken on, you know, over the last few years. >> Yes. And I think that's the way to look at it that we're focusing on where we're heading from a vision standpoint. But once the it's just being care,
>> this stuff isn't going to get any better. It's as good as it's ever going to get, >> right? I mean, right now other than we've got drones lying around, we don't >> and they can do all the patrolling and then you get to play from the shirt, you know, that's the next step.
>> Yeah. >> Right. No more cars, right? >> Just a record. Set a record. >> Actually, Axon has um a drone for first responders. >> Really get to the scene first. Yeah. >> Got thermal imaging on it and everything.
>> They have everything. There's like fire departments out in California that are using them and they launch from >> Can you imagine the productivity? >> Oh, >> it's the same thing as doing road construction. >> Well, it's all assessing is what it is,
>> right? >> Yeah, I've seen that >> decip what units to send to a specific event. >> They were they flew that drone in there right away for the squad. Wow. Well, okay then.
>> So, just get back on the agenda then for >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> board committee updates, budget, finance, >> gonna catch up with Jeff at some point, right Trey? Well,
>> as I'm going through these, you know, if I do have questions I can't find an answer for you, I'll be >> if we want to sit down as a committee, I'm fine with that. I just don't currently have anything been able to.
>> So, Chad and I have exchanged emails and I will be sending out the preliminary budget to the full board after the meeting today. Okay. Minus wages minus wages or do they plug something in there? >> Yeah, Chad Chad's got it all figured
out. >> So wages has its own line. >> Yeah. >> It's not You won't find wages in departmental budgets. It's got its own line for wages. >> And I mean, Western Prairie hasn't
approved. I mean, we can we're at at committee stage, right? Western Prairie will be approving a preliminary on Friday. >> Friday. >> Correct. >> We had executive last week and asked about what that committee's thoughts
were and it's like well we've already got one that's moved out of financial. So you know the view of executive was if we change anything now you need to go back to financial and it you know so that is I think everybody here knows
that request is coming scheduled to come in in 60 >> and probably the wild card is maybe the other two counties >> well the other two counties but I mean there is concern about insurance you know and
where that's going to because like Grand County, they went on for bids. So there's there's that concern as well. >> Oh, sorry Troy cut you off. >> No, go ahead. >> Um, so if you're talking about budget
and you know the levy >> Yep. Uh, I summarized up, you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I did my summary and all my departmental budgets to the committee, the budget and finance committee,
I believe, a week ago, last Friday. So, everyone's had that for over a week, getting close to two weeks, asking if there were any questions, concerns, and if we wanted to meet, >> right? Um, you know, it was not my intention to send that to the full board
unless the committee felt it could be sent. Um, so if if the the budget committee, it sounds or it appears now that it to go ahead and send that to the full board. So, you should have a couple weeks to to
look at our county departments and their budgets. One thing I'd like to say is to keep in mind that yes, uh the what I did for at this point was to include the Western Prairie levy as it was for 2025. So
there was no forecast, there was no guess, there was no anything about whether it's going to be an increase or decrease. I plugged it in basically remaining the same. That way, if you guys are all on the Western Prairie board, so you kind of know more about what that may be than I do, um you can
use those calculations yourself. You know, if you think you're going to be adding or or or reducing that levy as far as the percentage. Um I will I will send Tina before you send it out, I will rego over it for the
fifth time. Um we have been working very hard with the departments on the last three weeks working on these these prelim budgets. Um it it there are some differences. There are some different departments. It's going to look a little
different because the wages do not or the departments do not include wages. On the cover sheet or the summary sheet that I normally provide, there will be a line on the very bottom of the revenue department that says wages. That amount was provided to me by
I think Troy or somebody on a committee as to what to add those you know what to add to those wages. Um but I don't want to really get into specifics but uh it the levy increase right now as calculated is minimal. I'll
just say that very minimal. to Chad uh the 165 for EMS and then I can't remember a number for H. Are they being put in at
the same or what have we heard from these two? >> I I left the I was uh first of all the the EMS the 165 I left that the same as 25. I was not
instructed to do anything differently. >> Okay. >> Okay. Getting to the HRA. The HA is a special levy outside of the county levy. >> Yeah. >> So, that's not included in what I'm sending you.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. That's a that's a special levy that's not not part of the county levy. >> Yeah. Okay. It's my understanding that that levy will probably stay the same as 25, but
again, it's not part of the county levy. >> Thank you. >> Any more on finance committee, building committee? We met last Friday. >> Yep. >> Things seem to be getting streamlined
and there's a significant I shouldn't say there's a number of lists that are being developed for maintenance so we can come up with a priority list. So there will be there will be more things for the board to see. I just
don't think we're there yet. Does that sound right, Tina? personnel committee appeals came back went out to the respective departments other than that I don't know that we've >> we haven't met
>> we haven't met highway committee >> the county road over there in Wendle uh was blacked cut and they got to do a little bit of, you know, tearing up of a certain portion of it that's that isn't
apparently the soils isn't good below it. So, they're going to update that. It sounds like they're going to be back in a couple weeks. Uh, Pineidge Park Road is in and done black, but I don't know. There's there's a soil correction that's
got to happen there too as well on the east end of it. Bill, you would probably you've seen that, I'm sure. Right. >> I haven't driven on it, but I've got >> So, you know, they a lot of times you it's tough to identify where the where you struggle with these soils is you put
black top on it and then you find out that it don't carry the machinery and they should have dug it out and done some some real definitive testing before they decided to come with a mix. So, I don't know. It's it's all on them. they got to come
back and fix. So 55 don't sound like we got a definitive date on that. So but I drove through it yesterday and you you know they I think they're they're letting the traffic drive around the barricades. So and it's ready for
black top. So central is is getting ready for blacked top on the Ottertale lake or county road north of Wendle. soon as they kind of get that breath and done and you know there was some infractions there as soon as that's all
done I think they're going to do both projects at the same time >> so you're saying that the soil underneath they proceeded to blacktop but then after found out so the question I have if it's a county road and are we
inspecting slash approving that to proceed as far as the process or are they proceeding on their own and we're unaware of that well you got you know I think it it must have got missed and then when you put black top on it then
it ripples and stuff like that so then >> they've done this before numerous times Berlin Avenue we had to do it down there and >> you said it's all on the them the >> contractor >> you're sure of that? >> Yep. Okay compaction testing
yeah that's what I was kind of getting must have missed it. Yeah. >> So, what do they grind up? >> They are, but they didn't. >> Well, huh. >> They are, but they didn't. >> They are both. >> They should have done, you know,
something. >> So, did we pay for it? And it didn't. >> I can't answer that statement. It's, you know, we got Aaron over there and, you know, I mean, he's all these projects he's bouncing around here and there, you know, opening his rain events have
probably if if we wouldn't had all this rain, it probably wouldn't have been an issue. >> We wouldn't have noticed it. Would have been caught. >> It's not a big area though. >> No, it's just those spots. It ain't the home road. It's just those spots. >> But which company is it doing the work again?
Ratty's over there and Ratty's you know so it's Ratty brother or Joe Rally Joe >> well who did it up here who's doing who did it when Joe >> okay public safety committee is there meeting no right
>> yes >> solid waste committee What is that out there ordinance? Did everybody get that or just us? >> Oh, that 10 year plan, Ben. >> We don't believe it was just you on the
committee and then Rita's talked potentially of doing a work session for the full board. Okay. >> So, that's other than that, I don't know if there'd be anything with there. >> Is there anything else, Tina, that
Yeah, that so that 10-year plan at MPCA is going to be opening up a comment period on it. We're going to update that. It looks like the next meeting probably have a session before the meeting and
we got to the board's going to have to support we got to find a way to get our recycling up to that 35%. there. I think strategic planning
>> kind of address what we talked about it earlier in the meeting. I don't think there's anything else. >> All right. public health. >> We're meeting next Monday >> and the Western Prairie that's meeting what? Friday. >> Yeah. Yep.
>> You got anything else? Anybody else got anything else? I'll >> journ at 11:25. >> Thanks, Mr. Chair.